How Much Do People Know About LGBT History?
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2019
- How much do people know about LGBT History in the UK? I took to the streets to find out as I had strangers try to guess the dates on an LGBT timeline!
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1. What year were the Stonewall Riots?
2. When was homosexuality decriminalised in the UK?
3. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of sexuality?
4. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
5. When was the age of consent equalised to 16 for all sexualities in the UK?
6. When did Equal marriage become legal in the UK?
7. What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in the UK?
8. What year did the UK Government lift the ban on lesbians and gay men serving in the Armed Forces?
9. Section 28 was a clause put into place that prohibited the "promotion of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship" - essentially preventing it from being discussed in UK schools. What year was Section 28 repealed?
10. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being gay as a mental or behavioural illness?
11. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being trans as a mental or behavioural illness?
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what are your guesses before watching?
1. What year were the Stonewall Riots?
2. When was homosexuality decriminalised in the UK?
3. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of sexuality?
4. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
5. When was the age of consent equalised to 16 for all sexualities in the UK?
6. When did Equal marriage become legal in the UK?
7. What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in the UK?
8. What year did the UK Government lift the ban on lesbians and gay men serving in the Armed Forces?
9. Section 28 was a clause put into place that prohibited the "promotion of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship" - essentially preventing it from being discussed in UK schools. What year was Section 28 repealed?
10. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being gay as a mental or behavioural illness?
11. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being trans as a mental or behavioural illness?
Rowan Ellis
1. I knew 1969
7. I was pretty sure it was still banned to at least an extent
10 & 11 I got the decades right
It would be awesome to see one of these about US history too, though I realize it’s a little less practical
1. 1969
2. 198...2?
3. 2002 (I was born in 2002 so I'm pretty sure)
4. 2011?
5. 2001
6. It isn't yet
7. It isn't yet
8. 2017?
9. 2003
10. 1992
11. 2019 (like a few months ago)
1. What year were the Stonewall Riots?
July 1969
2. When was homosexuality decriminalised in the UK?the 80's ?
4. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
2014?
6. When did Equal marriage become legal in the UK?
90's
7. What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in the UK?I don't think they can yet
I don't know the others whops
1. 1969
2. 1974
3. 1995
4. 2008
5.1990
6. 2013
7. 2016
8. 1985
9. 2001
10. 1989
11. 2010
(To be fair I'm American, so for a few of those I knew the dates for the US but not the UK. Time to see how I did!)
EDIT: Only got one right, but 6 more are within 10 years so that's not terrible I guess
My guesses
1. 1969
2. 1975
3. 2012
4. 2016
5. 2006
6. 2006
7. 2018
8. 2017
9. 2008
10. 2000
11. 2010
That one gay who knew that it's been 50 years since stonewall but still getting the wrong answer because they can't do maths is a mood
That would be Christel Dee, who has the best hair in the business!!
What I would have done was count the decade numbers to five and stuck it on the fifth one
ultimate gay
Typical they.
"when was it made illegal to discriminate based on sexual orientation?"
me: *cries in texan*
You don't have this ??????
@@lillianesusewind4568 unfortunately not. There are no federal laws protecting against lgbtq discrimination in the workplace. Many states do have laws giving at least some amount of protection, but Texas has none.
Some large cities, which are typically more liberal anyways, have city wide laws against it (I know Austin does). But even those are being threatened by the state government
It's also legal in the us for business owners to refuse service based on "religious grounds" (aka being homophobic). And I think that in some places, that applies to medical professionals, which is fucked up
Nerdicorn the Shipper wtf is a doctor discriminates for that they shouldn’t be a doctor
When a quiz on LGBT rights becomes a game of "Does this English person remember the North of Ireland"
Because they always forget it ok as of late they remember because of the backstop.
Northern Ireland isn't the north of Ireland, it can be a touchy subject with them both so it's important to make sure it's right
I generally am updated about trans issues but now I feel like a bad ally for not knowing that transness is not considered an illness anymore. But as an old lesbian, I got a lot of the other dates right, at least. Now, I need to study more!
You sound like an awesome grandma.
Not being rude, why isnt it classed as an illness? I have adhd an thats classed as a medical/mental condition and all that it is, is that i have an abundance of energy, find it really hard to concentrate on most things and sometimes quick to anger.
Ah it’s ok GamGams. I’m glad that you try to research
@@bluecannibaleyes Calm down, honey. No need to be a transphobe.
Calm down, no one’s afraid of these people, Grandma.
How recent all of these were is shocking
I’m really glad for that man from Northern Ireland pointing out how slow NI has been in the promotion of equal rights for LGBT+ people. People often forget about NI and their draconian laws slip under the radar.
Hopefully the situation will change soon, as I believe equal marriage will be passed unless the NI government comes together again to stop it. Seeing as the NI government hasn’t been a thing for hundreds of days now, I don’t think that’ll happen.
have you seen Derry girls ?
Hey I'm from NI
The brexit deadlock and mess is an issue here. PLUS if we get a government again I wouldnt be surprised if they tried to put restrictions or repeal it unfortunately. It isnt a done deal yet :(
Weirdly republic Ireland decriminalised being gay later but got gay marriage by vote in 2015 (I live here)
Stormont has been abandoned for nearly two years I think, and I think if Stormont is not up and running again by October 20 something equal marriage and abortion will be legalised. It is honestly quite upsetting look at Northern Ireland as a teenager and think that this is my future, but I think we should all be grateful for the country we live in today as it has definitely improved from the one 20 years ago. There is still a lot of sectarianism and homophobia and rasism but at least there aren't bombs and shootings every day. Look how quickly the world changed with the right people and the right attitude. Although I wasn't alive then, when people talk about the Good Friday Agreement they seem filled with hope and joy. We don't have that now, we have Boris Johnson and Arlene Foster. We have people who walk away from their problems instead of fixing them, but everything is crumbling slowly soon it will collapse and we'll have to rebuild.....
Sorry that was so long lol!
Lisa Nicholl woah awesome
I love that theres a Northern Irish guy in the video going "well, actually if you count us all the dates need to be pushed forwards by a good bit, in fact we're still waiting for some of this stuff."
I immediately had all my money on The Son of Spice.
Same
Thanks for this, super informative. Here in Canada men who have sex with men are also forbidden from donating blood for three months after having sex with a man. This ban was indefinite until 2013, was five years until 2016 and then one year until a change earlier this year. Trans women who have not undergone a lower gender affirming surgery count are viewed as men by Canadian Blood Services (CBS) for the purposes of the bans. All of this is made even more disgusting because of how much of their budget CBS puts towards advertising the need for blood, while simultaneously rejecting and mistreating willing donors for bigoted reasons
Similar situation here in Germany.
In Sweden, men have to Wait a year after they’ve had sex with another man before they can donate blood, even if you’ve been monogamous for years
After a /new/ female partner the wait is 3 months...
Im in Quebec and last year i had to stop donating for a medical reason and for six months i still got calls asking me to donate. This sort of situation must be so bad if you've donated before but then you slept with another dude
In Brazil men who have sex with men still cant donate blood at all (idk wether it aplies to all man or only cis ones)
Just men? That's double the bullshit.
so glad that there’s a northern irish man on this, so sick of people yelling abt how progressive the uk is when northern ireland still doesnt have gay marriage (or abortion). moving to eng has really opened my eyes abt how oblivious and ill informed people really are on these things
Wow, you know the US is behind when most of your answers for these in your country is "it wasn't"
Don’t worry, we’re quickly becoming a not-serious country.
@@bluecannibaleyes I'm not sure anyone was expecting USA to be ahead to be fair ;P
Cenna Noble I know how you feel I’m in Australia and gay marriage was only made legal last year
I Quit It wasn’t just made legal in 2019, it was made legal in around 2017 i believe, as i remember me and my friends celebrating it in school and remember what year i was in that time.
@@whosjuno6992 I feel proud as a Belgian that it was made legal second after The Netherlands... Yet there's still so little understanding and so much hate and violence towards same-sex couples 😔
I just realised something I'd like to add. The UK has also backtracked on any consideration of legally recognising non binary people, which affects our legal rights. It's hard to think you're protected from discrimination when the reason for that discrimination isn't recognised in law at all. This also means we can't get married as our actual genders. Although I think civil partnerships don't do this. And for trans people in general, in order to get married as your actual gender requires getting a gender recognition certificate, which I kid you not requires a panel of probably cis people to decide if you're trans enough and you to have had surgery(also a large fee) . This is why the vast majority of trans people don't apply for GRC's, and so can't get married as their actual genders.
"i can't do maths" that's so gay of them
They couldn't think straight
So 1969 (Stonewall), 1992 (WHO) and literally this year (WHO again). Only ones I knew.
I’m using this video when I create my LGBTQ+ club at school
That's amazing, good on you!
As a queer person myself, as well as raising a trans little boy and a little girl who is still too young to tell us, I have been on the look out for queer history books. I think they might help you as well there is one called "we are everywhere" and one called "50 queers who changed the world" that I have bought so far that are great resources. Both can be found on Amazon. If you are in a situation were you can I would suggest checking them out.
Master_Vampyre
Thank you so much
@@geekwithglasses2897 Good luck!
same
"I feel like a really bad gay" (15:56) is a mood.
I've been diving into a lot of videos from people of the LGBTQ+ community the last week. It has shown me so much about how we need to change our schools (I teach biology in the Netherlands). I always thought I was pretty open about LGBTQ+ during my classes, but turns out I missed so many seemingly simple things that should obviously be taught in school. But it just never crossed my mind. So I am definity going to discuss this in our biology group and I will probably use this timeline concept in my classes ❤
We need Rowan to write us an in depth LGBT history book
This was such a well-structured, well presented and well-researched video. The Format was especially enjoyable, considering the tonal implications of the subject matter. Definitely sharing
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I really like that bear. Not only is he cute but also really smart
The one i was surprised of the most is the declassification of being trans as a mental ilness. I thought i kept up to date with what's happening but I apparently forgot about it. I really need to do more.
Also thank you because I knew some dates about the US legislation but almost nothing about them in my country, Italy, which prompted me to research more about it
christel dee! It's christel dee! From the Doctor Who fan show! Christel dee! :DD
thank you for the info ^^
PS : love your profile picture :)
Yeah, I recognize her. What a coincidence ^^
From the Five Who Fans?!
@@SunniestAutumn yeah!
Dude, whenever you said "Very recently shamefully so" Whoever you are, you brought me to tears. Thanks, just thank you, thank you, thank you!
is anyone else really depressed now?
Should we be depressed? I think we should celebrate how far we have come in recent years and how few things are left to be done in the UK (in legal terms). We reached a point were we can complain about lack of representation in movies and have a chance of that actually changing that.
Always
I just did an essay on lgbt history in the UK and everything has completely left my brain lol
this is such a great video, i'm so glad you made sure to emphasize that this wasn't to publically shame people for things they didn't know!!!
Great video, learned a lot. Makes me wonder even more about the LGBT history of my own country.
I avoided this video for a bit because... I don't know, I've been hurt before by channels I really liked, but I felt my trepidation fall away when you reassured us that this would not be aimed at embarrassing people. I really enjoyed this activity, and I think I could have watched an even longer cut of the participants working through their process and associations with words and dates. Also I learned a lot! Thank you!
I really appreciate how you went about this, with an air of hoping to educate and enlighten folks in a non-imposing, non-ridiculing way. We need more people everywhere like this.
"The entirety of uk or just England and Wales?"
(some) Americans: *"What's The difference?"*
I knew Stonewall, the two WHO. And if I transplant the location to Denmark (where I live), I know homosexuality was decriminalised in 1933, and that it is completely illegal to donate blood if you "as a man have had sexual contact with another man" at all, not just within a certain time period. I didn't know any of the others, for either UK or Denmark
God I wish I was that guy in the white t-shirt who thought we've been treated as normal humans for decades
On most of the legislative things y'all are doing well better than the US. It's still legal to be fired or denied housing in much of the country for being LGB+ or for being transgender. It's also still very medicalized and having sex other than P-V is still illegal in some states. And men who have sex with men still can't donate blood for a FULL YEAR post sexual activity.
If I remember correctly Michigan's beastiality and sodomy law outlaws even oral sex if interpreted textually
Could you elaborate more or link me to a site about the laws that make other kinds of sex illegal? I tried looking it up but I couldn't find anything
Don't drop the T in LGBT
@@cicidiaries it is unconstitutional and unenforceable language included in an animal abuse bill known as Logan's law
what is lgb+? It's LGBTQ+.
Speaking of LGBTQIA+ and the World Health Organization: While I couldn't find their opinion on asexuality itself, their statement on sexual health excludes many asexuals. Here is the direct quote:
"Sexual health is a state of physical, mental and social well-being in relation to sexuality. It requires a positive and respectful approach to sexuality and sexual relationships, as well as the possibility of having pleasurable and safe sexual experiences, free of coercion, discrimination and violence."
Due to the nature of asexuality, many don't want those kinds of experiences at all. They are not broken or unhealthy in any way for not being open to that possibility.
Spice Girls shirt person and the shaved sides glasses person are..... cute af 🤷🏼♂️
We literally did LGBTQ history trivia in my school’s GSA yesterday
😯
What’s wrong with Northern Ireland?
Traditional Christian Views. I say this as a homosexual teenager who actually comes from a family of Irish Roman Catholics. My sister and I have broken from the religion, and I'm lucky that I have a far more tolerable family than most. But we live in England, so it's not so deeply ingrained in the community.
@@veggiesnake619 Is this mostly a Catholic thing or are the protestants as backwards?
@@veggiesnake619 Oh OK thank you.
@@munkyzzb7504 depends where you live. In the Southern US, Catholics are more liberal. Protestants? Hell no, and that's because most Southern Catholics are people of color.
As someone from NI, people are really accepting I went to a catholic school and we had pride posters and LGBT awareness days, but there’s a certain political party *coughs* DUP, who that everytime a new LGBT inclusive law is trying to be passed, block it, despite it being what the majority of the NI government want AND what the public want, they stop it using a thing called a “petition of concern”, countless times the same sex marriage law has tried to pass but they continually block it
Love this video! What a great idea, even being gay myself I felt sure I knew a lot of these but seeing them altogether in this context is quite shocking and upsetting. The fact that Section 28 was repealed in 2001 in Scotland but it's only now we're beginning to see inclusive education is appalling. I left school in 2008 and never received any information at all on LGBT+ relationships. Thanks for a brilliant video as always Rowan.
I'm super bad with dates and know nothing about the UK dates but I knew a few of these for the US, stonewall was in '69, and marriage was legalized in my state in 2014 and 2015 in the US.
Edit: I also find it so interesting that people are surprised when things like these are recent, and it always reminds me of the people here in the US who say things like, "it's been a long time since racism was a thing." When in reality interracial marriage wasn't legalized until 1967. Which means it's been just over 50 years. Sometimes these same people say, "You can marry now whats the issue" without even realizing that that still isn't true for everyone and don't take into account more than just lesbian and gay identities, such as transgender people.
Very good video. I was proud to get the non-UK specific stuff. It really upsets me how recently this stuff happened.
This is an extremely valuable video for your friends overseas. Thanks Rowan :)
edit: just a piece of advice about the editing, take it or leave it :) i would've given the answers with subtitles as people are guessing so we know right away how wrong or right they, and that way we find out at the same time how right or wrong they were themselves and i think it gives dynamic to the rythm because when you get to 9:20 you don't have in mind everyone's exact answers
i love your vids keep going
disclaimer: i'm not british
1. What year were the Stonewall Riots?
1968
2. When was homosexuality decriminalised in the UK?
1985
3. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of sexuality?
2001
4. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
2010
5. When was the age of consent equalised to 16 for all sexualities in the UK?
2003
6. When did Equal marriage become legal in the UK?
2011
7. What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in the UK?
1995
8. What year did the UK Government lift the ban on lesbians and gay men serving in the Armed Forces?
1998
9. Section 28 was a clause put into place that prohibited the "promotion of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship" - essentially preventing it from being discussed in UK schools. What year was Section 28 repealed?
1994
10. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being gay as a mental or behavioural illness?
1981
11. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being trans as a mental or behavioural illness?
2000
So nicely edited. Thank you always Rowan xxx
i'm a general history buff but RUBBISH with remembering dates. for the most part i found this both warming at how shocked people were at how recent so many events were & heartbreaking at how prepared for disappointment others. great video. it really made everyone look human, curious, interested, and keen. great video.
Thanks for this video! A fun, informative way to learn some history and spend 17 minutes. Cheers!
Great video! The graphics for each event are super cute too!
Such an amazing video, well edited, super educational. Well done and thank you
Watching this felt like joining a very interesting history lesson. Great concept with the time line, it was fun to watch, the people seemed all very sympathetic, too. Thank you for educating us and raising awareness!
It’s Christel Dee!
This video was soooo sad for me because of how late these certain dates were, but it was also helpful to learn more about my community.
You channel is so informative and what i needed in my life .I come from country where being gay is illegal so i was looking to learn more about the history of lgbt.I just wanted to say thank you for making this videos they are helping people like me 💛
This is a great video and it brought me to your channel years ago, thank you for all your great videos, Rowan!
This was such a great video, Rowan, but I think I would have appreciated a stillshot of the participant's answers when discussing the actual answer. Would have been interesting to folliw their thoughts a bit more!
Thank you for making this video, I am apart of the lgbt community and knew barely any of this. The recent things are truly shocking and disheartening to think about how recent they are! I’m definitely gonna look into more of the history now 💕
with my lgbtqi+ group at uni we created flyers with a timeline similar to yours for switzerland and we handed them out during the day against trans/homophobia on campus... the reactions about how recent the most of these events/laws/decriminalisation were, were about the same you got from the people who took part of this video. It's a shame that we as a society don't know anything about all of this unless we actively seek out information about it
Oh cool! Do you have like a pdf of it or something like that? I'd be interested in it:)
For Poland:
2. When was homosexuality decriminalised in Poland?
It was always legal.
3. When did it become illegal to discriminate in Polish workplaces on the basis of sexuality?
1974.
4. When did it become illegal to discriminate in Polish workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
No specific law (illegal to discriminate on any basis since 1997).
5. When was the age of consent equalised to 15 for all sexualities in Poland?
1948.
6. When did Equal marriage become legal in Poland?
Hahahahahahhahahah.
7. What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in Poland?
2005.
8. What year did the Polish Government lift the ban on lesbians and gay men serving in the Armed Forces?
There was never any ban.
9. Section 28 was a clause put into place that prohibited the "promotion of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship" - essentially preventing it from being discussed in UK schools. What year was Section 28 repealed?
There was never such law in Poland, or at least I couldn't find any mention of it.
Egaru Lastinn Poland is pretty great
@@apricot3998 No it's not. It's one of the least lgbt-friendly countries in Europe (according to "Rainbow Europe" or literally anyone who's ever been here).
This was a really interesting video! Really enjoyed these people and tbh I didn't know most of these dates at all!
This is so interesting, I don't think I could answer these for my country, but I'll definitely look it up!
I'm from The States but I appreciate this information being shared and brought to our attention because it affects the LGBTQA+ community all over. Thank you!
This video made me cry a bit. Thank you Rowan, for teaching us our history when so few others will ❤️
Thanks for this! It made me do research for the dates in Australia.
Australian answers:
2. When was homosexuality decriminalised in Aust?
(SA 1975; ACT 1976; Vic 1980; NT 1983; NSW 1984; WA 1989; QLD 1991; Aust 1994; Tas 1997)
3. When did it become illegal to discriminate in Aust workplaces on the basis of sexuality?
&
4. When did it become illegal to discriminate in Aust workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
(Both: 2013)
5. When was the age of consent equalised to 16 for all sexualities in Aust?
(WA 2002; NSW, NT 2003; QLD 2016)
6. When did Equal marriage become legal in Aust?
(2017)
7. What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in Aust?
(Not yet, still)
8. What year did the Aust Government lift the ban on lesbians and gay men serving in the Armed Forces?
(1992; 2010 for Trans people)
9. (Alternative) What year was the "Gay panic defence" abolished?
(In most states it was dismantled from 1997 to 2017 in QLD, with SA still upholding the doctrine)
Tasmania was 1997? For some reason I thought it was 1993, but 1997?! Wow that's recent.
I’m Canadian (but currently living in the US) so I don’t know a whole lot about UK LGBT history so this was really interesting to watch
This was a really good and eye-opening video. I really think the lack of intergenerational queer spaces is one of the things contributing to this lack of knowledge, because so many people come up without any community and often feel like they're still having to reinvent the wheel.
When I was just out of high school, I participated in a film class for queer youth and adults, and for a couple of weeks the city recreation center where we used computers and film editing software made us meet outside instead of in the computer center, because the idea of queer youth and adults behind closed doors together was threatening. That -- thinking that queer adults are inherently threatening to teens and children -- is the sort of queer-antagonism that people don't think about, and this was in 2008!
I never really had a space like that before or since, where I could interact with both older and younger queers, and that class is still one of the most important formative experiences of my life. We need that for the youth coming up today.
Wow, this video is so great. I realized I don't know the dates of important milestones for gay rights in my country (France). I want to not only get informed but also pass on this information to my peers. Thank you for inspiring me to spread LGBTQ knowledge.
I played along and thought I'd do well. But kept tripping up when the question was "...in the UK". Guess I need to pay more attention to things outside my scottish bubble
Wow I didn't think this video would make me so sad!
Also it's kind of embarrassing that I knew most of these for the UK but I have no idea when they happened in my country. I should really research that!
I just found your channel through our best gay meercat boys, but your content is great and i will definitely be sticking around!
Section 28 makes me so angry. I started school in 1995 and finished in 2009, so I was taught nothing about LGBT identities. If I had known bisexuality existed it would have saved a lot of confusion and anxiety.
EDIT: Ouuch. It hurts that everything is more recent than what I thought. I was right on a couple. I should've trusted my instinct on the blood donation thing, I guess I thought it might be different across the pond. I feel a little better because so many of these questtions were about a different country (I live in the U.S.) but a lot of these dates were still very chillingly late.
Okay Okay. I'm real bad at dates (both kinds)
What year were the Stonewall Riots?
I'm gonna go with... 1967. I feel like it was mentioned in a book I read recently about the late sixties. I also feel like it was around Civil Rights era.
When was homosexuality decriminalised in the UK?
What is this UK? If it ain't 'murica, it ain't real. I'll go with... 1970s, maybe 1975?
When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of sexuality?
Again, not from the UK, so I'm probably gonna be off, but... 1987, yeah that's a nice random number.
When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was still legal. Let's say 1999.
When was the age of consent equalised to 16 for all sexualities in the UK?
This is such a weird one to me. Pass, I have no clue. I'd guess late 90s.
When did Equal marriage become legal in the UK?
I'm guessing a little before America, so probably around 2013
"What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in the UK?"
I'm surprised that that's legal, we aren't allowed to where I live (I don't know if the US does it on a state-by-state basis). I'd guess recently, around 2015?
What year did the UK Government lift the ban on lesbians and gay men serving in the Armed Forces?
I would guess sometime around 2003. That year just sounds right for some reason.
What year was Section 28 repealed?
Ahhh I don't know!! probably before you got equal marriage, but after workplace discrimination laws? soooo 2000s.
What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being gay as a mental or behavioural illness?
I should really know this one. I'm going to bet on the early 90s, 1992?
What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being trans as a mental or behavioural illness?
1999?
I honestly should know more about this. I wish this stuff was taught in high school, because I don't usually like to spend my free time reading history textbooks. Unfortunately, in our History courses in high school we only learned up to around WWII.
About section 28: I knew this one because I recently did a video that I needed to research the exact timeline for section 28. It was very significant for me because I went to school from the years 1989-2001, and as such, I was never not under the administrative power of section 28.
That was very educational it would be cool if you could do an American version. Although I probably wouldn't do much better.
I'm 17 and helping to set up a GSA type thing at my school and I'm involved in helping change policy around LGBT education and supporting LGBT students. I am hoping to try to get this done as a lesson in PSD class (Personal & Social Development) for at least year 11,12 and 13. Thank you for this, it was really informative. I already knew a few dates but didn't realise how recent some of the others were which is quite distressing as most of the equality laws feel like they should have been a thing decades ago.
Love your approach to this video!
"Canada, equal marriage since 2005"
Also Canada "Lavender scare."
Opps.
In Canada if you are a gay man you need to wait 5 years with no gay sex, to donate blood. Im mean come on.
It's hard to know our history when we're not actively taught, and sometimes actually kept ignorant of, some if not all of it!
I love this video, it's interesting to see everyone learning!
Thanks, Rowan! Yeah, Tiffany and I have been openly bi / pan since we've been together around 18 years now, but I didn't know much about Stonewall beyond the name and the general description of police suppression and rioting until I started researching my Gay Pride and Prejudice video I published recently. Before that I might have put it somewhere in the 60s, but probably mostly out of a vague thinking it was part of the civil rights era.
This is such an important and beautiful channel thank u Rowan
I think what's probably most important about this video is realizing that marriage isn't everything when it comes to lgbt rights; There are often a lot of other hurdles to be crossed, not just legally, but socially as well.
Excellent video Rowan xxx
I did get tripped up a couple of times by the 'in parts of the UK/ in the whole of the UK' division, but I got the most commonly quoted dates for everything up until the military service and WHO parts. Which I suppose goes to show how easy it can be to forget that just because you have something doesn't mean everybody does
You do good work here. Keep it up!
Great video x
The Elder Gays need to write all of their wisdom down and make it freely available to the baby gays. We need some sort of like a living history website that has a big timeline on it and just tons of accounts from Elder Gays of their lives, their stories and experiences.
This was a very eye opening video, I learnt a lot so thank you. It hit me as to how little I know about LGBT history even though I myself am gay.
It was nice to see Christel Dee back on UA-cam, Love her sense of humour
i didn't know any of these but i also don't know any history in general, i cheated my way through history class in high school so i'm not surprised i don't know. it's so interesting to see the reactions and the comments in here too.
you've caught a christel dee! and this is neat rowan!
The minute Section 28 popped up I yelled out "Fucking Thatcher!"
I’m glad I know almost all of these for Australia. I did a lot of research when I was younger and was so surprised how many rights I didn’t even have back then. I’m only 23. Anti discrimination laws didn’t come in til I was 17, but these laws still have some holes in them. As a queer teacher, I can still be denied a job in religious schools. My girlfriend would still have to have a surgery she doesn’t want just to be legally recognised as a woman. We’ve come so far, and I’m proud of that, but there’s so many things we still have to fight for.
So people really do just go to park sometimes?
That's wild.
I noticed these are more about UK laws, which I am not versed in. So I will try to answer to US equivalents
1. 1969
2. I believe it was the 1960s for the US maybe early 70s
3. I don’t know if it is illegal
4.again don’t think it’s illegal
5. It was always 18 in the us.
6. For the US June 25, 2015.
7. Ouch. Still not law in the US
8. For the US, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell was lifted in 2011
9. I don’t think there’s a US law outwardly prohibiting teaching about LGBT issues in school. I just know it’s not something we do.
10. That was sometime in the 1970s
11. 70s or 80s as well I think.
So what I learned is we gotta catch up on our anti discrimination laws here in the states.
Some states like Alabama have laws making it illegal to teach about LGBT issues.
1. What year were the Stonewall Riots? - 1962
2. When was homosexuality decriminalised in the UK?
- 1986
3. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of sexuality? - 1996
4. When did it become illegal to discriminate in UK workplaces on the basis of being transgender?
- 2010
5. When was the age of consent equalised to 16 for all sexualities in the UK?
- 2002
6. When did Equal marriage become legal in the UK?
- 2011
7. What year were gay and bisexual men freely allowed to donate blood in the UK?
- 2014
8. What year did the UK Government lift the ban on lesbians and gay men serving in the Armed Forces?
- 2001
9. Section 28 was a clause put into place that prohibited the "promotion of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship" - essentially preventing it from being discussed in UK schools. What year was Section 28 repealed?
- 1983
10. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being gay as a mental or behavioural illness? - 2001
11. What year did the World Health Organisation declassify being trans as a mental or behavioural illness? - 2009
(im so nervous at looking like a gobshite for most of these im not too sure about british history)
1) 1969 - correct
2) 1991 - wrong, 1982
3) 2003 - correct
4) 2010 - correct
5) 2003 - wrong, 2008
6) 2013 (not Northern Ireland) - I should've just put 'no' I guess!
7) still not legalised - correct
8) 2007 - wrong, 2016
9) 2003 - correct
10) 1991 - wrong, 1992 (close!)
11) 2019 - correct
I feel like I did quite well! Although I wish I was wrong about some of these.
12:10 in France it's 12 months not 3 !
Yeah that's mind-blowing but true
Same in Sweden!
In the US, it's in the past year OR if you've had sex with a man fitting that description in the last year. So they're also forbidding any women who are dating bi men.
Knew most of the dates for England but forgot that some things weren't decriminalised in other parts of the UK for ages. Had no idea about the armed forces one or the age of consent one, that's really shocking
Thank you for this ❤️
I didn’t know the exact dates, but most of these I got the right area (except I forgot NI lack of marriage equality). I got most of my awareness from watching other videos of yours. I’m going to watch this again with my children. This is important for them to know and even if Section 28 isn’t a thing like it was when I was in school, they aren’t being taught it there.
The bit about the military is interesting to me, since I actually worked with several British service members in 2008-2010 who were out, which was a bit of a culture shock for us Americans since we were still under Don't Ask Don't Tell.
Also, the fact that no one’s surprised by the trans thing is also super super sad... I honestly thought the USA’s timeline was bad, but this is just... I can’t even put into words how disappointed I was.