Thanks for Informative video. It is however no brainer to me. I bought my Honda HRX217 for approx. $800 and it works flawlessly and keeps on strong whereas I would have paid $1200 for the battery-powered EGO lawn mover and $500 for the battery every few years if sooner depending of the usage. Make a wise choice beloved consumer. I'm a regular guy, I don't mind changing the oil and filter, or refilling some gas now or and then ;-)
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I am the DIY person. I will pick the gasoline mower every time. Very easy to service and maintain. They will last for decades if you take care of them. My Honda pressure washer and mower are 25 years old. The Honda is designed to be serviced and repaired. That makes it more "green" as it is not a white good or throw away product. Will the battery still hold 100% charge in five years? What happens if the battery mower gets caught in a thunder shower when you go in for a glass of water and the electrical corrosion starts? Just like with electric cars, the technology is not good enough yet to best gasoline. Great video by the way, very nice job.
I own a Honda for almost 10 years now and thought about getting an EGO. I had my neighbor test his EGO on my 1/2 acre yard side by side with my Honda. I noticed the clipping and mulching was much better on the Honda. Also my neighbor could not finish cutting the grass due to dead battery.
I know a guy that his Ego battery was dead after 4yrs. Now the replacement battery is so expensive, he might as well buy a whole new mower with a battery included. I’ll keep using my reliable Honda.
I had my Honda about 10 years also and just bought the Ego yesterday. My Honda still going strong I just wanted something new, & not have to deal with gas and oil
Hey my friend, not all heroes are firefighters or military service men. It's people like you making a difference by providing good quality information to the world. Thank you very much for this great review/comparison.
I've had 2 Honda mowers since 1982 . I just bought 2 HRX217HYAs brand new in the boxes til I need them . I'll never do battery . Great detailed video . I don't care about loudness . Handle hightis great . My first honda I kept til 97 . I only sold it because I wanted somethingshiny and new . My second is still running after 27 years . Plastic deck was a big upgrade when honda came out with it . Honda going away is a end of a era 👍
A suggestion for future noise level comparisons: check it where and how it will be normally used. In other words, check the decibels of the mower WHILE mowing (not stationary) and check it from the operator position (not front of mower) somewhere near head (ear) height. This will give you the best readings for operator noise level. If you want to compare neighbor noise level (how your mowing impacts your neighbors), then a different (distance) test should be devised.
The noise on equipment is really tricky to get. The decibel meter doesn't do that good of a job for a variety of reasons. I really think a subjective test done with 4 - 6 people sitting on neighboring decks/ going into their house and seeing how much they hear inside and just ask 'which one is quieter' and 'which one annoys you less' and 'would this irritate you at 8 PM' (or whatever time the whiniest of your neighbors start to jump up and down.)
I’ve had 2 Honda self propelled mowers. 1st one for 7yrs, sold it. Bought a new one 5yrs ago. Both started on 1st pull with ethanol free gas. All I do is a yearly spring full syn oil change, sharpen blade & blow out air filter. They just run great forever. I know a guy with an Ego that’s 4yrs old. His battery won’t charge anymore & to replace it costs almost as much as a new mower. I’ll stick with gas as long as they’re available! 👍🏻🇺🇸
Although that is true, gas cost a lot oil changes are difficult and there’s so much more that you have to deal with gas more that I would rather just get an ego lawn more that’s just as powerful and replace the batteries overtime
@@Andrew.Aravis It takes me about 2 minutes to change the oil. 😂 I remove the dipstick/cap, tip it over to drain oil into a pan, refill & check oil, take oil to recycle. To each his own though.
Excellent job on comparing these mowers. Well done and most of all much appreciated. I am in the market for a new mower and now that I am older I am looking for ease of use, less maintenance, etc. I currently own a Troy built mower and have had it for 27 years. Best cut ever and I have many neighbours whose lawn did not look as nice as mine once cut. However, I just can’t maneuver it anymore. Plus it is needing more and more maintenance. So I think I am going to make to move to the battery machine. Thank you so much for this video.👍
@@TechMadeEzy That’s good to know. I do like the 21” cut. I’m just not thrilled with the price of the battery…however, less maintenance overall. Thanks again.
No gas, oil, starting issues. Cuts well enough. Quiet. Very light. Folds up and can store on its side or vertically….the cost is high, especially for batteries.
I bought a self propelled Honda mower similar to yours probably 10 years ago. I have found it to be 'bulletproof', by far the best mower I've ever owned. I change the oil annually, and put in a new plug and air filter maybe every two years. I have two sets of blades and change them out maybe twice a year. I thought about getting an electric mower, but the Honda just keeps going and going! I live in the south, and have a zoysia lawn. I have heard that electric mowers are better with the taller type fescues rather than the turf type grasses.
Just bear in mind all you guys talking about Hondas from 10 years ago, today's Hondas do not compare. This comparison video is fair because it shows mowers available on today's market. Truthfully all the gas mowers of a decade ago were better quality than gas mowers being pumped out of Chinese factories today
Had my Honda about 8 years. Starts on first try. I keep it outside under the stairs of the deck so it is exposed to rain and snow. Never changed the oil or sharpened the blade. I think I changed the blade once. Replaced the pull mechanism once. Use it weekly, sometime half the yard twice a week. Gas is a little bit of a pain, but I don’t have to fiddle with charging. My only regret is not getting the Nexite deck where grass sticks less. I’ll give the mower away for free when I upgrade to the new Honda. For basically abusing the Hell out of my mower because I hate anything to do with cutting grass, I would still choose the Honda.
You should change the oil for sure. If you don't like changing oil, get some really high end synthetic oil. I sue Amsoil Signature in all my engines, but Royal Purple, Mobil 1, etc all will work well. Your 8 year old oil is probably heavily diluted with gasoline and moisture and providing minimal protection.
Thank you for this detailed comparison. I have a 10 yr old Honda HRX217 4 in 1. A great mower considering I have to mow 4+ hours each time. Yes, the maintenance is generally basic. For a battery operated, I would need one which includes two 10amp batteries so that one is fast charging and ready while I am using the other one. Battery warranties need to be 5 years minimum or else the cost of these as replacement is steep. Most battery operated appliances come with a low amperage 3 year warranty which is essentially useless. Mind you I have a battery operated weed trimmer, and a hedger and with two batteries I always have a back up and so far they’ve lasted 7 years.
If I get a larger mower, I can’t get around some of the tighter areas and would still require a smaller mower to manœuvre around. It’s also not cost effective. My Honda serves me well. The time also includes trimming all of the edges.
You did a great job on the video. I agree with most of what you've said. I've been researching for a new mower. I've looked at the Toro, Honda, and EGO. Their evaluation is less about me than the people who use the mower regularly. Hopefully this will be of use to someone. - The lots around here are typical city lots with streets 1/2 block apart which equates to 60 feet wide and 165 feet deep from the center of the road which equates to 9,000 sq. ft. By the time you deduct 15 feet for 1/2 the street, put a house, garage, and driveway on them, you are down from 9000 sq. ft. to ~6,500. We also bag a lot, including leaves. - Battery power was suggested by one of them and I thought it was a good idea. Since everything gas we have gotten from Stihl has been incredible, it was my first thought, but the EGO bested all of them in the reviews, including the Toro. I found a dealer who sells Honda, Toro, EGO, and Stihl where I could rent them. I didn't care much about price. All have a 5-year warranty. These are our impressions. 1. The Toro 21564 quality was very good, but not as good as the Honda. It has a smaller bag than the Honda. What people loved about it is Personal Pace. It moves with pinky pressure so when you walk, you just talk and there is nothing to do, when you slow down, it slows down and when you pull it back, it just pulls back. What made it stood out was the realization that walking speed continually varies when you mow unless it is a straight line. This translated into a lot less effort than the other two It cuts and bags very well. Personal Pace really raised the bar from the self-propelled people had been accustomed to. The plastic flap that flips down when the bag is not attached scrapes the top of the hand unlike the others. I would want to file the edge off that. I don't like having to use a recycle plug if I want to recycle, but if I'm going to be honest, we don't switch much. I don't like it that it doesn't have an alternator for the electric start like the Honda so I have to plug it in to charge the battery, which is then good for 25 starts. It doesn't have a washout port, but you can flip it up in the stow position to get at it with a hose. 2. The Honda HRX217VLA quality was first class everywhere, bag and all. The VLA was chosen because the others thought the speed control was too complicated and unintuitive with the HRX217HZA. The dealer said in 10 years he's only seen one plastic deck crack, and Honda paid for it. The warranty on the deck It is lifetime for the original owner. After 5 years, they just send you the deck. It cut and bagged fine and has a big bag which was initially a draw, but a big bag also gets heavy for others, so that turned out to be a nothing. As far as the double blade cutting finer, the clippings were the same size as everything else. What all didn't like was setting a specific speed, and then having to move your hands to back the mower up, but it was was not different than any other non-Personal Pace mower. It is also a lot harder to pull back than the Toro or EGO. You can flip the handle down but it doesn't store standing up. It doesn't have a washout port and without the ability for it to stand up, it means you need to rig something to hold it up when you need to clean the deck. Honda's last mower will roll off the assembly line will be in September of 2023. After that they will be out of the mower business world-wide. They aren't making money and aren't going to deal with California lawsuits anymore. 3. The EGO they said it should be just about right for our lot size. One-lever height adjust is a feature, but how often do you really do that? I liked how I could pick it up and put it in the back of my SUV by myself. The others are ~100 lbs.. While ~100 lbs. is not a lot, it is when you are essentially trying to hold that at arms length when loading it into an SUV, so you will want help if you don't want to scratch up the bumper on your SUV. The bagging worked but the first thing everyone noticed was it didn't suck up all of the leaves like the other two did. It would pick up most but also drive over some and leave them untouched. You can set the speed for the self-propel but it is all or nothing, so the moment you engage it, after a slight delay, it jerks ahead at the speed you set it at. If you set it at a speed you are happy with as not accelerating from a stop too fast, it is too slow during the walk. It was very unnatural. The others tended to turn it off and just push, which is not difficult because it doesn't weigh much. They had to walk slower to get a good job so it took a lot longer than normal. There weren't that many leaves left, and this time of the year grass doesn't grow lush like in the summer, and it was not that tall, so this is less than typical. However, even with it self-propel off most of the time, it ran out of battery just before finishing. It doesn't have a washout port, but like the Toro, you can flip it up in the stow position to get at it with a hose. Summary: I see a place for the EGO, but not on a normal city lot with thick grass and deciduous trees like we have around here no matter how many videos I see now to the contrary. I expected to buy the EGO and would have, hadn't I rented it and had the crew try it out. I love my battery string trimmer and power tools. Everyone thought battery was a good idea, light weight, no gas to fill or keep buying, no oil to check, always starts, and simply put the battery on a charger when you you're done like the string trimmer. I also liked the Honda workmanship and you just plain get more for the money. However, this is about cutting and picking up grass and leaves, and time. This is where the Toro Super Recycler with Personal Pace beats the Honda and EGO. They would bow to my preference if I went with the Honda, but I would never hear the end of it if I went with the EGO. Honda's refinements don't trump Toro's Personal Pace. After Personal Pace, everything else becomes an unintuitive annoyance. Toro makes a battery Super Recycler too, but I have not tried it. The EGO is rated the highest on CR, and in the areas most important to me. I don't know where to rent the Toro, but even then conditions are not conducive this time of year to determine how it would perform during the normal season on grass and even most of the leaves have been picked up. I don't have a basis for believing the Toro battery Super Recycler would do better at cutting, bagging, or take less time than the EGO. In the fall, you can be out there working it for hours. Just one extra 10ah battery for the EGO is ~$400. It will be the gas, electric start, Toro Super Recycler 21564.
Very good video. I bought an "open box" top of line consumer Honda mower in 1999. Last year, the self-propelled mechanism started to slip, and the plastic brackets holding the handles and throttle assembly broke, and the parts to fix them are no longer available. The engine still runs as well as it always has, but with my hilly yard, it's time for a new mower. To be honest, I am a hard sell on an electric mower based on the great experience I have had with my Honda. But, the fact that an electric will let me toss my gas cans and free me from regular maintenance on a gas engine (mine has run so well for so long because I change the oil, filter and spark plug regularly) is really making the purchase of a new mower a difficult one - but this video is definitely helping me make a decision.
Even though you're free of gas maintenance, going to an electric mower comes with its costs as well... Batteries aren't cheap and seem to fail more frequently than mowers. This means that you're likely to be put in a position where you need a new $150 battery to keep your $600 mower going - and if the mower fails after that, you'll need to buy a new $400-600 mower to justify the $150 that you recently invested in batteries
Thank you... a thorough and comprehensive review and comparison. I currently have a Honda... but am converting to EGO in all my lawn and garden equipment. Will probably convert over when the Honda dies... which won't be for a LONG time I think. I mow my lawn down here in Florida -- Saint Augustine grass approximately 3 times per week in the summertime.
EGO single height adjustment system allows for more play in the deck height. When applying self propel on mine, there is a significant deck height increase over the deck height when pushing. Also, lower RPM on the EGO vs. Honda. EGO wheel barrings are not water tight. Mine have rusted and the wheel fallen off on two occasions. I have both of these mowers in my lawn service trailer. The EGO is my alpha mower and the Honda is my second mower (For use on lawns where the mower might get damaged). Been using the Honda for years (been though about 13 of them) and 11 months into it, I am about to replace my first EGO. With both mowers, everything works until the self propel fails. Motor and deck outlast this feature on each. EGO being independent and Honda being belt driven, they fail differently, but that seems to be the weak point when I am the primary user.
Underrated comment! Single point height adjustments are convenient - no doubt - but allows for some degree of front-to-back flex and can lead to uneven cuts. I’ve wondered if I’m crazy for preferring multi point adjustments, but I’m glad to see someone else call it out. edit - forgot to mention, I purchased the 2022 Toro 60V Super Recycler and multi point adjustment was actually a selling feature for me!
@@SiXX5150 That was a consideration of mine when replacing the EGO mower. After watching reviews on the Milwaukee mower, I decided to give it a shot. The single point height adjustment on the Milwaukee is much more rigid than any other that I have tried. Add to that the many other points of superiority and it is a very compelling mower as competition to the Honda.
@@robertthompson3447 I agree that the Milwaukee is the strongest single-point that I’ve seen - outside of the Husqvarna W520i which is an absolute TANK. For most homeowners they’ll never go to the $1100+ range that those mowers command, but the Milwaukee is a great mower and easily the most powerful in the battery world. 🍻
@@robertthompson3447 @robertthompson3447 if Milwaukee battery mowers are the best in terms of power. Why this channel only showcases EGO as winners no matter what mower he compares to. Why??? Why??
Thing I got going on is my used Murray that I paid $70 for. Changed oil and sharpened blade, new plug, breather, and front wheels. So I got my time and about $95 in it. Hard to get off the money at this point, but I’d personally be buying the echo if I was starting new and fresh. Just such a convenient machine. Heck, you could store it in your hall closet if need be.
Interesting . I will only use Honda residential mowers . I’ve used them since 1981 . I’m on my second Honda mower as of June 2024 . I did buy 2 Honda HRX217 HYA models brand new in the box . Haven’t opened them yet but I have them . I’ve never had any issues with my Fl St Augustine grass or cutting zoysia.
There's pros and cons to both I've owned the ego. It's light it folds up, no gas no maintenance required. The cons vs gas. less power, the batts die every 3-4 years, they're getting cheaper but not super cheap either. Other than that battery is so convenient and much quieter. if you have less than a 1/2 acre, then a batt mower is great. The power difference sometimes matters when you have ton of leaves on the lawn or branches, nothing chops them up and bags as well as the power of gas. I now have a toro 60v, I like the bag better than the ego.
You are lieing! Nobody that has EGO says that the batteries die 3-4 years. People have it for 5 years and the battery works just like new! 10 years old Tesla electric cars have 90 % or their original capacity, that means you can use the battery for more than 20 years and you would still have 80 % of the original capacity.
@@drister007 well here in az I mow every week and yes my brand new ego battery didn't last more than 4 years. I now have a toro battery mower and I'll be surprised if it lasts any different. Batteries don't like the heat.
@@williammorales8204 1. If true that is VERY VERY VERY rare occasion. In 99 % of the time that does NOT happen. Does battery have shorter running time or was it completely dead? EGO offers 5 year warranty on some of their batteries. 2. Battery last more than 20 years normaly. I challenge you: go and look at 10 year old Tesla and people like Bjorn Nyland that measure the degradation. 10 years old Tesla STILL have 90 % of their original capacity. 3. Battery can cope with heat no problem if the battery chemistry is choosen correctly. You probably only expose battery to outside summer heat 1 per week when mooving, you don't store your battery in the schorching hot sun all day long everyday of the year probably.
I have a honda and an ego. Love them both for different purposes. Ones super light, quiet, and can cut grass for light lawn stuff easy. Perfect when i dont want to constantly rotate a 100lb+ mower around. Where as my honda is great for higher torque applications. Back yard neglected and full of weeds? My honda will destroy them with ease. But its loud, stinks, and i need to run to the gas station. Battery wise its not a big deal. Most comments you hear are the very very small part of overall failure. I dont hear people complain much anymore about phone batteries. Like anything do your research before you buy into something.
Another great review! I have an auto transfer set up for $20 per month dropped into a “Lawnmower Battery” savings account-never miss it! By the time I need to replace the battery (5-year warranty on the 10Ah), it won’t hurt a bit. In fact, I’ll even have enough for a new lawnmower, should EGO have a worthy upgrade by then. Love my EGO with the high lift blade and bag-lawn looks fantastic!
Seems the EGO stripes the lawn more with mulch than the Honda, which distributes it more over the full path. The mower I'm replacing stripes the mulch as well. Not a fan of the striping, as that means you have to overlap your passes back and forth to pick up the previous mulch, which is more mowing becuase you're making narrower passes than you could be.
Awesome video. Great information. My daughter and I were blessed from our Hawaii family the Husqvarna battery 🔋 mower, WeedEater and blower. Putting them to the test and review soon. We’re learning a lot from you and your channel. Grateful 🤙🔋👍😎✌️
Thanks for the extraordinarily thorough review. I have a number of EGO tools, but because my Honda mower is only two years old (I have the older HRR version), can't really rationalize the expense of buying the EGO just yet since the Honda cut is quite sufficient, but I was close. Definitely will consider it at some point in the future since your video demonstrates it to be a worthy competitor.
Yo must also consider the fact that with electric mover you don't have to pay for gas, oil and maintenance any more. Calculate that expense for next 10 year, and battery powered mover is cheaper (litium batteries last more than 20 year, 10 year old Tesla still have 90 % of their original capacity).
@@drister007 Oh yeah, those definitely are things I've taken into consideration. At current gas prices, it's an even better bargain. I figure I'll try to get a few more years from the Honda, and by then, the electric might be an offer I can't refuse. Absolutely love the convenience of my other Ego tools.
@@drister007 nothing you said is outright wrong by any means at all, however there's a hint of a gamble on the amount of time you said the battery will last. I bet the "average " home owner with the "average" size yard will put what he says a new battery alone cost into a gas powered mower between gas in maintenance in a 10 year period.
I own this specific Honda mower and use it commercially for years now. The power is phenomenal. Versamow system is unique and ground braking. The plastic deck (Honda calls the material Xenoy) makes it rust and dent free while simultaniously very light which makes the mower extremely maneuverable. Another great trait of the Xenoy is the fact that the grass doesn't stick to it as much as it does on a aluminum or steel deck... There are only two things that I would like to see improved. First is the height adjustment system which is annoying given the fact that you have to adjust every wheel individually. And the second thing is the lack of quality and sturdiness of the handle. After 2 years of intensive use the handle was busted and I had to weld the damn thing every few months....
Thanks for sharing Mark, Honda definitely has a hug fan base. It would be great to see them with a battery mower also, I'd love to see what they would do.
As a kid it was always briggs and straton mowers for me. Even my last gas mower was briggs and straton. First electric mower for me was a sun joe i hated it as much as I loved it. It was just so cheap.
Just thought I'd share: (LM2130SP, purchased Feb2021): No issues in 2021...in 2022 it simply cuts off while cutting. It appears to run for approx. 20 minutes then it shuts off and won't restart (Battery goes through 1 to 2 led indicator lights). But it will restart after some rest time: 15 minute rest, it will run for about 2 min. 45 minute rest, it will run for 10 minutes or so. Mind you I only took note of these types of times just once before taking it in. And I'm not cutting through overgrown grass here, I'm bagging very little clippings, probably even shorter than the 1/3 rule this time of year. The underdeck is clean, nothing there. Did this to me on 3 separate consecutive occasions this season (Mar/Apr 2022). It's not the battery, as I have swapped batteries and both work fine in the second piece of equipment (string trimmer). Also, nothing appears to be hot as for as I can tell and nothing out of the ordinary happens before or after, it just shuts off. I called EGO and they referred to me to their authorized warranty center (an hour away). I turned it in on 20 Apr and explained what it was doing to me. I called them today (27Apr) and they can't seem to replicate my issue. Which I was afraid of. The associate I spoke with said they went through several batteries and been going back and forth with EGO regarding my issue. But if they can't replicate what's happening with me not sure what else can be done. I guess, they are talking with EGO to see if any other customers are having similar issues this this lawnmower.
2Jul Update: Just wanted to share my LM2130SP mower has been working fine since I got it back (9May, they found nothing wrong). So far, I've cut nine times now, running about 50 minutes during each cut. Mind you some of those cuts was during this heat wave Ga experience in Jun. So whatever cause my shut off issues is beyond me.
You want the mulch to be spread out not mostly where the wheels are. What’s the point of mulching if the mower doesn’t spread it out. That would be like fertilizing only in line with the wheels of the spreader and not covering the entire yard.
I do disagree with spec sheet, page 2, where you showed run time claim and put unlimited with gas for the Honda. Gas run time is not unlimited. My last gas mower I used was my uncles and it was a high quality Husqvarna self-propelled mower. During a mow for his lawn, the gas would run out. I sometimes would be close to finishing but would have to stop and go to the shed and pour more gas in to finish it. With my Ego mower, the battery also usually dies before finishing my lawn and I can go to my shed and pick up an already charged back up battery and put it in the mower faster than the time it would take to add gas, and with no mess.
You're comparing my 2 favorite brands so I greatly appreciate it. I'm sold on EGO for their quality, power, warranty, customer service and maybe most importantly their battery tech! I'm hoping EGO eventually makes an auger and even a smart trailer. I'm all in!
It have changed customer service calls take to long to get in touch with someone, they will call you the next day at 8:00am. So you can troubleshoot your problem but most people are at work. Then they say oh call us in the afternoon, then when I call nobody picks up keep on ringing. Battery the old version are not so great mine just don't charge no more and my warranty is done 3 years
Looked hard at electric. The whole idea of now gas/oil and less noise seemed appealing. Some love them some hate them. I wanted self propelled and sometimes mow pretty thick grass so if I got electric it had to be pretty powerful. Ended up with a Honda HRN216. $350-$400 cheaper and it looked like overall durability looked better on the Honda. Plus the cost or replacement batteries seemed pretty expensive.
I really think if you're in the ecosystem and you not only have a mower but you have a snow blower and a string trimmer and a power station that all use the same battery I think it really makes a big difference
I'll have the Honda any day of the week. In your video i would guarantee that the revs were not up high enough on the Honda thats why it is not picking up the grass in the catcher properly as well as mulching. I own a Honda residential unleaded 4 stroke mower which is 16 years old it has had 1 spark plug 3 air filters 3 oil changes and 3 lots of blades which in turn is about $200 for 16 years of work the mower starts first time every time it is really efficient on fuel and is not very loud when running. I guarantee that battery piece of crap will thrown down the dump in 5 years or less thats if it lasts that long, your household power will cost you more because you have to charge the battery or batteries then forking out $ for new batteries because the original is not holding charge long enough. People are going to get sick of buying and charging batteries. In the next 5 to 10 years the battery mowers may have improved and battery time when mowing will be a lot longer and the charge time will be a lot quicker only then maybe i will look at one but until then I'll stick to my Honda.
Sometimes if you are doing a high cut the gap between ground and mower skirt is too high to allow all grass to be sucked up into bag and some escapes the sides. Also if the bag mesh is getting blocked the vacuum under the mower cannot build up properly because the air being blown out the deck vent cannot escape quickly enough through the bag sides..
I know it’s nit-picky, but I love how the Ego bag lifts off…just picks straight up. I always hated how you have to tilt the bag forward on other models and you end up dumping out a good amount of clippings that you have to scoop up by hand. I just bought the $600 EGO for $270 yesterday…it was the floor model at Lowes. It only has the single blade, but I’m looking into seeing if I can make it a dual blade.
@@TechMadeEzy I was going to buy the next model up for $699 but saw the floor model sitting there and figured it was a no brainer. With the money I saved in the mower I upgraded the weed whacker and blower I was going to get and got the 16” weed whacker that has the auto line feed and the 765 CFM blower. Got all 3 for $898. Lowes gave me the 10% military discount on the lawnmower and a couple of other items I bought, but not the trimmer and blower. I guess they consider them “appliances”. Can’t complain though.
I have always used honda mowers, I bought this ego mower, it is nice but i will be surprised if it lasts longer than the battery. That said some things are better with the electric, when it is wet and I just have to mow the deck will get clogged, with the ego I can stop flip it on the side, clear the clog and be back cutting much faster than the Honda.
The Honda did cut more in the bag and seemed finer for the same distance covered vs the Ego thus i would say it is creating more vacuum pull up more grass
i like the original handle on the EGO mower...they got too fancy with the 2nd generation and all the extra bells and whistles...i just want a mower that cuts, discharges, drives at my desired pace and is easy to use....the first model is perfect for doing all of these things ...I have had many different gas mowers with the Toro personal pace being my favorite but the battery option from EGO has done the trick for me.....i don't think i will ever go back to gas for any of my lawn tools
I have had the same Honda mower for the past 5 years and don’t have hardly any loose grass clippings after cutting my lawn on the bag setting like you had after your cut. Either you installed your blade wrong or something is wrong with your mower. Just thought I would chime in on that so folks interested in the Honda aren’t misled or misinformed. And I have no hidden agenda and no interest in Honda and do not endorse their products.
I have a Honda HRX too and I mainly notice cut differences are caused by the plant material it's having to cut as I have different shading and soil qualities in my yard, so that could be a factor too.🤷♂️
@@TechMadeEzy @Tech Made Easy LOL! :-) | You're not alone, I've been known to do some odd projects after dark in my backyard, testing mower lights actually sounds reasonable in comparison! I have to add your comparisons are without comparison. You make the finest demo videos of these machines anywhere on UA-cam and they have all been most helpful! Thanks!
What almost no one is talking about is that although you have to replace the batteries in the ego lawnmower every 3-5 years is that ego batteries work in all ego products, and they have hedge trimmers, lawnmower, edgers, string trimmers, snow blowers, leaf blowers and more. That plays a big factor in cost believe it or not.
Being taller AND comfortable can be tricky. At first having the handle higher seems better. However, length of stride can be an issue if you are too close to the mower by angling the handle higher. Especially with the bag attached you can kick the mower. But if this causes you to lower the handle, your arms could get strained and tired more quickly. I'm 6'5 so with some grocery carts, strollers, etc I stub my toes or bash my ankles on what I'm pushing. The only way to check this would be in the store with the display model.
I’ve had an electric mower for a few years, first a ryobi and then a makita. Just recently got tired of endlessly swapping between 3 sets of batteries and bought a Honda 217. Night and day difference to be honest. It has so much more power than electric and I get the lawn mowed in less than half the time. Before I would have to only mow half a strip at a time or the mower would bog down and stall. Now I can mow a full strip with ease.
Honda it is. I need a new lawnmower and been contemplating between the Ego electric, the Toro electric and the gas powered Honda. Definitely going with the Honda. I just don't think the electric mowers are just quite there yet.
@@damako7072 good choice. Electric mowers are great in theory, the minimal maintenance and such. And they’re much quieter, like pushing a fan around. But the gas just has way more power and endurance. I’m loving the Honda, you won’t regret it.
I actually have both and used them commercially. They are very good in their on right! My crew is split, one loves the Ego and the other loves the Honda. In my opinion, the Ego wins. There is no gas or spark plugs to deal with, no extra cost maintenance while still giving a premium cut. The only reason one of my guys likes the Honda more is because of the battery. I use the 7.5 amp and at first would only get through half of the day. I now have replacement batteries with a turbo charger and make through the day with no problem, about 8 to ten jobs a day. After using both, I can honestly say, the Ego has some Power! I have the dual blade set up; by the way, my blades do not dull as fast as people are saying in the comments; and there have been a few jobs where the Honda stalled on tall grass and the Ego tore through it with no problem. They both are great! For electric I only use Ego and for gas I only use Honda.
My 2 favorite brands. I own the Honda Ridgeline just for it's versatility. The gate and bed with built in cooler/trunk is absolutely amazing! The backseats fold completely up and have a metal rack to hang clothes. It's great. Building my EGO lawn tool lineup, currently.
I replaced a HRX 217 Honda with the Ego a little over a month ago. Here are a few of my observations. For starters the Ego's blades get dull extremely fast. We've only mowed 5 times and they need to be sharpened badly. That means I will have to sharpen them several times a year. With the Honda I was good sharpening them once or twice a year. The Honda seems to do a better job mulching but that could also be that the blades stay sharp longer. The single adjustment lever is really nice on the Ego but I find the 3 setting to be a little too short and 4 to be a little too high. With the Honda you get more adjustments and I was able to mow at the height I liked. I used the Honda strictly as a mulcher. The bag was still brand new when I sold it. Even with the lever set all the way to mulch a lot of grass would still get through and fill up the area behind it. The self propel was easier to use with the Honda. I find myself not using it nearly as much on the Ego because it's so light and easy to push. I also like that I don't need the mower running to use it. For the most part I am happy I made the switch. Not dealing with gas or oil is really nice. Also I can easily pick the Ego up and put it out of the way standing on end. I love that. Now if Ego could make some better blades I'd be really happy.
@@rconn4501 The dual blade EGO won't take a universal type blade like most single blade mowers do. Honda's twin blades are also not replaceable with other ones.
I've had my Honda mower for at least 12 years and it's never let me down....until now. The hydrostatic transmission is not working properly and the mower is now in the repair shop. If the hydrostatic tranny is toast I won't put out the money for a new tranny, since up here in Canada they're in the $500-$600 range. Instead, if I need a new mower I'll go electric. I really like the Milwaukee mower, but it's $1500! The Ego looks to be a good alternative, but at $1150 it's still not cheap.
I don't really care for Honda's 'Select Drive' but I love their 'Hydrostatic Drive' transmission. It is a shame though that Honda is discontinuing the manufacturing of mowers.
I'm curious why it appears that you are engaging the blade on the Honda before pulling the starter cord? I always start my Honda HRX with the blade disengaged and then I engage the blade after it is started and warmed up. That is the instruction in the manual, at least for my model year Honda. It seems like you are adding unnecessary resistance by turning the blades while pulling the cord. Also, I noticed that you had to pull the cord more than once to start it by doing this even though the engine was warm.
EGO is really giving consumers a good alternative, specially honda quit producing mowers as of 09/2023. While the ego would be PERFECT for a lot of folks. These honda mowers are littlery gas it up. Change the oil once every 50 hours, pop in a new air filter and check the spark plugm thanks to EPA eletric everything is going to be the future. Battery's are more likely to fail well before a honda engine. I can rebuild the machine myself for about $00-$120. When they battery for the ego is nearly $450 dollars and the mower is $750 or so... Huge disadvantage for me! I won't consider eletric until we can get replacment batteries for substantiall. There are definitely compelling reasons to go eletric, however the current battery tech needs to be more advanced that can provide the same amount of run tine, cost a lot less to replace and find an actual "green" way to mine lithium. Folks think going eletric is going to save the environment, but little do they know the manafactures sourcing the compenents are still in the stone age and couteracting the "green" way
@@Andrew.Aravis yes, 09/2023 was their last production month for mowers. I did call honda and they said that they will continue to support parts production for atleast the next 5 years. Thats good news. I expect atleast a decade out of my HRN216 before it's the point of not fixing. Honda parts are so cheap compared to other companies (toro) so I just stocked up in $200 dollars of common replacment parts (wheels, pinion gears) that regardless of how well you take care of your machines, common wear items will eventually have to be replaced If you want a "new" one, your likey hard to find one without a large markup. I snagged a gently used Hrn216vla that was not under the recall for $250. I would recommend scouring the used pages for an hrx217 with the hydrostatic transmission instead of a slip belt The mower if you try to buy new is $650 yea no way would I touch a honda even though it's a fairly good setup. I still have my 14 year old personal pace toro that I still prefer that system but it's beat up good and after so many replacment parts it not worth putting more into it. The new toros are meh. The eletric start system on Hondas are superior and they have a magneto system to charge the battery while the engine is running. Toro does not and every time you use it, you sapping the power from battery and will need to be recharged eventually. Honda twin blade system bone stock blades provide an exceptionally cleaner nicer looking cut in any situation. I've used countless blades with the toro and it always had a okay cut but it was never as clean as the honda was.
In this review the EGO seems to have more suction power than the Honda on grass. This is a BIG surprise. The first thing I noticed when I sold my Honda and bought the EGO was the lack fo suction. That was four years ago, before EGO offered the dual blade system. Please do a follow up in November comparing the suction power of the EGO and Honda on fall leaves. I have an older EGO with one blade and it is just about useless on leaves. As to gas vs battery pro/con: When I bought my first EGO four years ago I did some quick math, used gas at $3/gallon, that I mow every 4-5 days, and found that over four years the cost of gas about equaled the cost to replace the 7.5Ah battery. Add in air filters and oil and the cost of gas/battery is about the same. Thank you.
Hi Edward, yes owning a gas mower long term would be cheaper. I definitely like not having to mess with oil, gas etc but we all like different things and I respect that. The EGO select cut XP has more torque and Wattage than most of the ego mowers that I know of and that helped for sure. Thank you so much for watching I hope I have a big fall with a ton of leaves
The big win with electric mowers over electric cars is replaceable batteries. However, you have to be careful because if you buy a piece of battery powered equipment where they stop making the series the batteries get rare and expensive fast. I bought a Craftsman 60V trimmer and now the batteries are more than a whole new trimmer. When the battery dies, I'll likely just get an M18 bare trimmer off ebay for $100 since I have those batteries already. I have a super recycler mower that I bought in 2004 and it's still going. But I've thought I might replace it with electric when the time comes. I have even considered the Harbor Freight 80V series. But again, I'm worried about battery availability in the future since the biggest problem with battery powered equipment is the eventual death of the battery. I guess I'll see what is available when the times comes.
When thinking about costs in the future, consider that if someone does not know how to work on their Honda mower, shop rates are typically going to be $100+ an hour, which is a significant percentage of the purchase price.
Consumables-gas mower-of course the gas,then oil,air filter and possible oil filter.Also the spark plug.For the electric a replacement battery every several years and like the gas mower will have to replace the blade.I have a Greenworks mower that is 10 yrs old-battery still going strong.Big wheels are good on rough terrain.
Bought a Honda gas mower something like 4-5 years ago based on their stellar reputation. Last year in the middle of mowing, it refused to roll backwards. Felt like the transmission was locking up. Did some research and found this a pretty common problem. Recommendation was to emory cloth or fine sandpaper the axle where the bushing is. Did that and used the mower without issue a couple of more times. Now this year, same issue happened. Was able to free it up by hand. Next time out, not so lucky and the axle transmission refuses to allow it to roll backwards. I am fed up and now I hear that Honda is leaving the (gas) mower business altogether. I went out and got an Ego. While it feels pretty cheap to me, much of that probably because it is so light, I figure I'll give them a good shot. I'm frankly beyond disappointed with the Honda though. Engine is wonderful, it mows well, but the axle transmission issues are just too much. Keeping my hopes up with the Ego.
My old Honda walk behind did that once, but some spray lube fixed permanently. Mower is over ten years old and still runs like new. Gave it to my son when I went electric.
@@jfrye6057which electric mower you went with? I tested Ego on rent, on my buffalo lawn and it came out disappointing.. boggs off and not picking up anything even at the lowest setting, seems low on power and found it too toyish then a real good mowing experience. Please share your idea. I am sick of EGO fake reviews. Sorry but true!
@@hiteshsood5362 I have a 5 yr. old Ryobi 38" rider. My Son has a 21" Ryobi twin blade 40 volt walk behind. He says it mows as good or better than the 21" twin blade Honda gas walk behind it replaced.
I bought my Honda in 2014 and have spend several hundred in parts to keep it going, doing the work myself I had to replace wheels twice, transmission once (might be making noise again) and the drive gears to the wheels, had to replace 5 of the handle bar lock knobs (yes, I know the mower only has 2, finally modified them and use nails instead of roll pins). Had to change another handlebar bolt to a flush version so it won't snag the fence. Lots of oil, gas, spark plugs, and air filters over the years. It also currently has an oil leak from an o-ring in the head. The environmental factor is huge. I don't know the stats, but not having emissions controls or a catalytic converter... mowing for an hour is as dirty as driving a car for thousands of miles. All that being said, I've been watching for a deal on an EGO as I'll continue to use the Honda, and perhaps the EGOs will just get better and better.
I just purchased the EGO snowblower with the steel rotor. Can I use those batteries, which it comes with two, with this mower. I want to purchase a new mower this summer.
Hi Jim congrats I hope you have a great experience! Yes all ego batteries are compatible with all ego equipment that’s one of the big benefits, Stay in touch let me know how it goes
I have the new Honda. Hex 217 and it blows away the ego select cut xp with 10 amp battery I had the ego 10 amp returned it. Also the new 200 cc honda hrx mulches like a beast and mulches leaves like a beast to.
Thanks for the comparison! I love my Honda mower, but rear discharge DOES NOT work. This does not throw the grass and it down right stinks! Best things I like about the Honda mower are 1) the motor & 2) the undercarriage.
I'd say the best takeaway from this is Electric has arrived. It has the the same performance as a gas machine at this point. Run time and battery longevity is still an issue, though the average residential consumer will get around 8 to 10 years out of these batteries. Still, if you know your way around small engines the gas machines will last much longer. Most people don't know a thing about small engines and this is where these E-tools come in.
great vid ,,just wondering about Honda grass left behind ,,may be the speed u are walking at (slow ) the speed of the engine is greater then the battery power ,,, in which WOULD leave behind more grass???? just a thought ..an idea ,,, doing both at like half speed or faster ( bagging ) bet ya t don't leave much grass behind
Why don't you compare Honda battery powered mower with Ego on a buffalo lawn. The grass you test on is very easy to cut. Please make one on Buffalo lawns
I’ve had my mid tier gas mower for 8 years. I’ve never done a lick of maintenance, I never winterize, I leave it out in the rain constantly, and it starts 2nd pull every time. Hard to hurt these things.
Electric mowers are only good on small (under 8000 sf) flat yards. I have the Makita XML09 a commercial model. It is a niche mower and allows me to offer all electric service, plus I have been on the Makita platform many years(have lots of batteries) and my XML09 is heavier then most electric mowers. On small flat postage stamp yards or when I have a small amount that cant be cut with my zero turn the Makita is great. I also own a Honda HRX217, YBravo GenII 25 and a Toro Timemaster. Without fail the gas mowers out perform the electric in morning dew grass, over grown yards, hilly terrain , my experience shows the Honda to be the best mulch and cut quality, YBravo(true commercial mower) best discharge cut and the Timemaster is the best all around mower(its a homeowner mower so one has to handle it carefully or the commercial work will tear it up). Home owners with over 10,000 sf of yard that are cutting once or twice a week Timemaster hands down if your willing to spend $1500. They will save you time, mine is a 223 B&S and 4 yrs old with an electric start, runs great and simple to service(oil change takes 10 minutes).
At one point you personally favor the EGO am I correct? If so what is your yard size and do you have flat land or slopes? Thank you for all your time and efforts to inform us..great video..
Hi Danny thank you I used EGO more yes but have to stay open as I try and test other brands that’s pretty important. My yard isn’t too big we have 5000 square feet, not as flat as I would like, more bumpy
@@TechMadeEzy thank you for your honest answer, but would like your opinion. I have 10,000sf bumpy and I have two slopes, what mower would you suggest other than a ride on. Once again thank you for your guidance, I think because of all your comparison videos you would be a good source of info. Again great videos…thank you.
I really can’t make the decision for you, I wish I could but it’s not right. GreenWorks, EGO, Ryobi are some solid brands to choose from. I would definitely get a self propel mower
In the Fall, Honda obliterates EGO when picking up and mulching leaves. If you only have space for one mower and want the best that can both cut grass and mulch leaves/debris, Honda is the best choice.
Thanks for Informative video. It is however no brainer to me. I bought my Honda HRX217 for approx. $800 and it works flawlessly and keeps on strong whereas I would have paid $1200 for the battery-powered EGO lawn mover and $500 for the battery every few years if sooner depending of the usage. Make a wise choice beloved consumer. I'm a regular guy, I don't mind changing the oil and filter, or refilling some gas now or and then ;-)
This channel is Project Farm of lawnmowers. Always so much attention to detail. Great work.
Thanks so much and watch project farm he’s amazing great testing, with much feedback from my subscribers I’ve continued to improve. Thanks so much for watching and for your comments 👍🏼
I am the DIY person. I will pick the gasoline mower every time. Very easy to service and maintain. They will last for decades if you take care of them. My Honda pressure washer and mower are 25 years old. The Honda is designed to be serviced and repaired. That makes it more "green" as it is not a white good or throw away product. Will the battery still hold 100% charge in five years? What happens if the battery mower gets caught in a thunder shower when you go in for a glass of water and the electrical corrosion starts? Just like with electric cars, the technology is not good enough yet to best gasoline. Great video by the way, very nice job.
I own a Honda for almost 10 years now and thought about getting an EGO. I had my neighbor test his EGO on my 1/2 acre yard side by side with my Honda. I noticed the clipping and mulching was much better on the Honda. Also my neighbor could not finish cutting the grass due to dead battery.
Maybe tell him to change the height of the blades and get better batteries that last, still good information though
I know a guy that his Ego battery was dead after 4yrs. Now the replacement battery is so expensive, he might as well buy a whole new mower with a battery included. I’ll keep using my reliable Honda.
I had my Honda about 10 years also and just bought the Ego yesterday. My Honda still going strong I just wanted something new, & not have to deal with gas and oil
@erickanew I hear you, gas mowers last forever. I hope you have a good experience with your new electric mower.
I have the ego mower, a 10ah replacement battery is about $500, I'm hoping that that price will fall before I need a replacement.@@Andrew.Aravis
Just bought that Honda,not disappointed.
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Enjoy your videos. Have had the Honda HRX mower for 23 years. Excellent reliability and performance. Plus they are made in the USA. Not China. 👍
Thanks RS
I've had 2 Honda mowers since 1982 . I just bought 2 HRX217HYAs brand new in the boxes til I need them . I'll never do battery . Great detailed video . I don't care about loudness . Handle hightis great . My first honda I kept til 97 . I only sold it because I wanted somethingshiny and new . My second is still running after 27 years . Plastic deck was a big upgrade when honda came out with it . Honda going away is a end of a era 👍
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Thanks for your comment and for watching
Great review. Once battery life and cost drastically improve, I might consider switching. Until then, I'll stick with my Honda mower.
Thank you
A suggestion for future noise level comparisons: check it where and how it will be normally used. In other words, check the decibels of the mower WHILE mowing (not stationary) and check it from the operator position (not front of mower) somewhere near head (ear) height. This will give you the best readings for operator noise level.
If you want to compare neighbor noise level (how your mowing impacts your neighbors), then a different (distance) test should be devised.
Appreciate that 👍🏼
The noise on equipment is really tricky to get. The decibel meter doesn't do that good of a job for a variety of reasons.
I really think a subjective test done with 4 - 6 people sitting on neighboring decks/ going into their house and seeing how much they hear inside and just ask 'which one is quieter' and 'which one annoys you less' and 'would this irritate you at 8 PM' (or whatever time the whiniest of your neighbors start to jump up and down.)
I’ve had 2 Honda self propelled mowers. 1st one for 7yrs, sold it. Bought a new one 5yrs ago. Both started on 1st pull with ethanol free gas. All I do is a yearly spring full syn oil change, sharpen blade & blow out air filter. They just run great forever. I know a guy with an Ego that’s 4yrs old. His battery won’t charge anymore & to replace it costs almost as much as a new mower. I’ll stick with gas as long as they’re available! 👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks for sharing
Yes! I had the exact same problem with my EGO!
Although that is true, gas cost a lot oil changes are difficult and there’s so much more that you have to deal with gas more that I would rather just get an ego lawn more that’s just as powerful and replace the batteries overtime
@@Andrew.Aravis It takes me about 2 minutes to change the oil. 😂 I remove the dipstick/cap, tip it over to drain oil into a pan, refill & check oil, take oil to recycle. To each his own though.
@@chrisb9478 gas prices though. Can’t argue with that.
I have a Honda HRD536 from 1996, one pull start and LOW maintenance, they are bullit proof. Greetings from Belgium.
Great comparison on both mowers and I enjoy the detail of all your videos!
Thanks so much Johnny
Excellent job on comparing these mowers. Well done and most of all much appreciated. I am in the market for a new mower and now that I am older I am looking for ease of use, less maintenance, etc. I currently own a Troy built mower and have had it for 27 years. Best cut ever and I have many neighbours whose lawn did not look as nice as mine once cut. However, I just can’t maneuver it anymore. Plus it is needing more and more maintenance. So I think I am going to make to move to the battery machine. Thank you so much for this video.👍
Lou my pleasure also you might want to get the 20 inch it's even lighter
@@TechMadeEzy That’s good to know. I do like the 21” cut. I’m just not thrilled with the price of the battery…however, less maintenance overall. Thanks again.
No gas, oil, starting issues. Cuts well enough. Quiet. Very light. Folds up and can store on its side or vertically….the cost is high, especially for batteries.
I bought a self propelled Honda mower similar to yours probably 10 years ago. I have found it to be 'bulletproof', by far the best mower I've ever owned. I change the oil annually, and put in a new plug and air filter maybe every two years. I have two sets of blades and change them out maybe twice a year. I thought about getting an electric mower, but the Honda just keeps going and going! I live in the south, and have a zoysia lawn. I have heard that electric mowers are better with the taller type fescues rather than the turf type grasses.
Thanks for sharing Nick
Just bear in mind all you guys talking about Hondas from 10 years ago, today's Hondas do not compare. This comparison video is fair because it shows mowers available on today's market.
Truthfully all the gas mowers of a decade ago were better quality than gas mowers being pumped out of Chinese factories today
WELL done. Honest UNBIASED Review. Tell it like it is.
She popped a wheelie on the Honda! Very good video.
Thanks Sully
Had my Honda about 8 years. Starts on first try. I keep it outside under the stairs of the deck so it is exposed to rain and snow. Never changed the oil or sharpened the blade. I think I changed the blade once. Replaced the pull mechanism once. Use it weekly, sometime half the yard twice a week. Gas is a little bit of a pain, but I don’t have to fiddle with charging. My only regret is not getting the Nexite deck where grass sticks less. I’ll give the mower away for free when I upgrade to the new Honda. For basically abusing the Hell out of my mower because I hate anything to do with cutting grass, I would still choose the Honda.
You should change the oil for sure. If you don't like changing oil, get some really high end synthetic oil. I sue Amsoil Signature in all my engines, but Royal Purple, Mobil 1, etc all will work well. Your 8 year old oil is probably heavily diluted with gasoline and moisture and providing minimal protection.
Had my Honda for 7 years and changed oil once, never sharpened blade, and my yard is huge. But it still works also no scraggly grass left
@@Augownage what's that over 600 for a mower - I'd at least put a plastic trash can lid over that engine when not in use
Thanks for this. Looking for a new mower but have no clue what to get. This helped a lot!!!
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Thank you for this detailed comparison. I have a 10 yr old Honda HRX217 4 in 1. A great mower considering I have to mow 4+ hours each time. Yes, the maintenance is generally basic. For a battery operated, I would need one which includes two 10amp batteries so that one is fast charging and ready while I am using the other one. Battery warranties need to be 5 years minimum or else the cost of these as replacement is steep. Most battery operated appliances come with a low amperage 3 year warranty which is essentially useless. Mind you I have a battery operated weed trimmer, and a hedger and with two batteries I always have a back up and so far they’ve lasted 7 years.
I'm curious as to why you don't get a larger mower given 4+ hours of mowing to do. Wow - that's a lot of mowing.
If I get a larger mower, I can’t get around some of the tighter areas and would still require a smaller mower to manœuvre around.
It’s also not cost effective.
My Honda serves me well. The time also includes trimming all of the edges.
You did a great job on the video. I agree with most of what you've said. I've been researching for a new mower. I've looked at the Toro, Honda, and EGO. Their evaluation is less about me than the people who use the mower regularly. Hopefully this will be of use to someone.
- The lots around here are typical city lots with streets 1/2 block apart which equates to 60 feet wide and 165 feet deep from the center of the road which equates to 9,000 sq. ft. By the time you deduct 15 feet for 1/2 the street, put a house, garage, and driveway on them, you are down from 9000 sq. ft. to ~6,500. We also bag a lot, including leaves.
- Battery power was suggested by one of them and I thought it was a good idea. Since everything gas we have gotten from Stihl has been incredible, it was my first thought, but the EGO bested all of them in the reviews, including the Toro. I found a dealer who sells Honda, Toro, EGO, and Stihl where I could rent them. I didn't care much about price. All have a 5-year warranty. These are our impressions.
1. The Toro 21564 quality was very good, but not as good as the Honda. It has a smaller bag than the Honda. What people loved about it is Personal Pace. It moves with pinky pressure so when you walk, you just talk and there is nothing to do, when you slow down, it slows down and when you pull it back, it just pulls back. What made it stood out was the realization that walking speed continually varies when you mow unless it is a straight line. This translated into a lot less effort than the other two It cuts and bags very well. Personal Pace really raised the bar from the self-propelled people had been accustomed to. The plastic flap that flips down when the bag is not attached scrapes the top of the hand unlike the others. I would want to file the edge off that. I don't like having to use a recycle plug if I want to recycle, but if I'm going to be honest, we don't switch much. I don't like it that it doesn't have an alternator for the electric start like the Honda so I have to plug it in to charge the battery, which is then good for 25 starts. It doesn't have a washout port, but you can flip it up in the stow position to get at it with a hose.
2. The Honda HRX217VLA quality was first class everywhere, bag and all. The VLA was chosen because the others thought the speed control was too complicated and unintuitive with the HRX217HZA. The dealer said in 10 years he's only seen one plastic deck crack, and Honda paid for it. The warranty on the deck It is lifetime for the original owner. After 5 years, they just send you the deck. It cut and bagged fine and has a big bag which was initially a draw, but a big bag also gets heavy for others, so that turned out to be a nothing. As far as the double blade cutting finer, the clippings were the same size as everything else. What all didn't like was setting a specific speed, and then having to move your hands to back the mower up, but it was was not different than any other non-Personal Pace mower. It is also a lot harder to pull back than the Toro or EGO. You can flip the handle down but it doesn't store standing up. It doesn't have a washout port and without the ability for it to stand up, it means you need to rig something to hold it up when you need to clean the deck. Honda's last mower will roll off the assembly line will be in September of 2023. After that they will be out of the mower business world-wide. They aren't making money and aren't going to deal with California lawsuits anymore.
3. The EGO they said it should be just about right for our lot size. One-lever height adjust is a feature, but how often do you really do that? I liked how I could pick it up and put it in the back of my SUV by myself. The others are ~100 lbs.. While ~100 lbs. is not a lot, it is when you are essentially trying to hold that at arms length when loading it into an SUV, so you will want help if you don't want to scratch up the bumper on your SUV. The bagging worked but the first thing everyone noticed was it didn't suck up all of the leaves like the other two did. It would pick up most but also drive over some and leave them untouched. You can set the speed for the self-propel but it is all or nothing, so the moment you engage it, after a slight delay, it jerks ahead at the speed you set it at. If you set it at a speed you are happy with as not accelerating from a stop too fast, it is too slow during the walk. It was very unnatural. The others tended to turn it off and just push, which is not difficult because it doesn't weigh much. They had to walk slower to get a good job so it took a lot longer than normal. There weren't that many leaves left, and this time of the year grass doesn't grow lush like in the summer, and it was not that tall, so this is less than typical. However, even with it self-propel off most of the time, it ran out of battery just before finishing. It doesn't have a washout port, but like the Toro, you can flip it up in the stow position to get at it with a hose.
Summary: I see a place for the EGO, but not on a normal city lot with thick grass and deciduous trees like we have around here no matter how many videos I see now to the contrary. I expected to buy the EGO and would have, hadn't I rented it and had the crew try it out. I love my battery string trimmer and power tools. Everyone thought battery was a good idea, light weight, no gas to fill or keep buying, no oil to check, always starts, and simply put the battery on a charger when you you're done like the string trimmer. I also liked the Honda workmanship and you just plain get more for the money. However, this is about cutting and picking up grass and leaves, and time. This is where the Toro Super Recycler with Personal Pace beats the Honda and EGO. They would bow to my preference if I went with the Honda, but I would never hear the end of it if I went with the EGO. Honda's refinements don't trump Toro's Personal Pace. After Personal Pace, everything else becomes an unintuitive annoyance. Toro makes a battery Super Recycler too, but I have not tried it. The EGO is rated the highest on CR, and in the areas most important to me. I don't know where to rent the Toro, but even then conditions are not conducive this time of year to determine how it would perform during the normal season on grass and even most of the leaves have been picked up. I don't have a basis for believing the Toro battery Super Recycler would do better at cutting, bagging, or take less time than the EGO. In the fall, you can be out there working it for hours. Just one extra 10ah battery for the EGO is ~$400. It will be the gas, electric start, Toro Super Recycler 21564.
Very good video. I bought an "open box" top of line consumer Honda mower in 1999. Last year, the self-propelled mechanism started to slip, and the plastic brackets holding the handles and throttle assembly broke, and the parts to fix them are no longer available. The engine still runs as well as it always has, but with my hilly yard, it's time for a new mower. To be honest, I am a hard sell on an electric mower based on the great experience I have had with my Honda. But, the fact that an electric will let me toss my gas cans and free me from regular maintenance on a gas engine (mine has run so well for so long because I change the oil, filter and spark plug regularly) is really making the purchase of a new mower a difficult one - but this video is definitely helping me make a decision.
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻
Even though you're free of gas maintenance, going to an electric mower comes with its costs as well... Batteries aren't cheap and seem to fail more frequently than mowers. This means that you're likely to be put in a position where you need a new $150 battery to keep your $600 mower going - and if the mower fails after that, you'll need to buy a new $400-600 mower to justify the $150 that you recently invested in batteries
Thank you... a thorough and comprehensive review and comparison. I currently have a Honda... but am converting to EGO in all my lawn and garden equipment. Will probably convert over when the Honda dies... which won't be for a LONG time I think. I mow my lawn down here in Florida -- Saint Augustine grass approximately 3 times per week in the summertime.
Thank you Ranger
EGO single height adjustment system allows for more play in the deck height. When applying self propel on mine, there is a significant deck height increase over the deck height when pushing. Also, lower RPM on the EGO vs. Honda. EGO wheel barrings are not water tight. Mine have rusted and the wheel fallen off on two occasions. I have both of these mowers in my lawn service trailer. The EGO is my alpha mower and the Honda is my second mower (For use on lawns where the mower might get damaged). Been using the Honda for years (been though about 13 of them) and 11 months into it, I am about to replace my first EGO. With both mowers, everything works until the self propel fails. Motor and deck outlast this feature on each. EGO being independent and Honda being belt driven, they fail differently, but that seems to be the weak point when I am the primary user.
Thanks great feedback Robert and thanks for watching
Underrated comment! Single point height adjustments are convenient - no doubt - but allows for some degree of front-to-back flex and can lead to uneven cuts. I’ve wondered if I’m crazy for preferring multi point adjustments, but I’m glad to see someone else call it out.
edit - forgot to mention, I purchased the 2022 Toro 60V Super Recycler and multi point adjustment was actually a selling feature for me!
@@SiXX5150 That was a consideration of mine when replacing the EGO mower. After watching reviews on the Milwaukee mower, I decided to give it a shot. The single point height adjustment on the Milwaukee is much more rigid than any other that I have tried. Add to that the many other points of superiority and it is a very compelling mower as competition to the Honda.
@@robertthompson3447 I agree that the Milwaukee is the strongest single-point that I’ve seen - outside of the Husqvarna W520i which is an absolute TANK. For most homeowners they’ll never go to the $1100+ range that those mowers command, but the Milwaukee is a great mower and easily the most powerful in the battery world. 🍻
@@robertthompson3447 @robertthompson3447 if Milwaukee battery mowers are the best in terms of power. Why this channel only showcases EGO as winners no matter what mower he compares to. Why??? Why??
Thing I got going on is my used Murray that I paid $70 for. Changed oil and sharpened blade, new plug, breather, and front wheels. So I got my time and about $95 in it. Hard to get off the money at this point, but I’d personally be buying the echo if I was starting new and fresh. Just such a convenient machine. Heck, you could store it in your hall closet if need be.
Can’t beat that Yoso 👍🏼
A great informative video, as usual! Keep up the great work Tech! 👍🏻
Thanks so much Lindsay
Thorough, clear explanations and easy to follow. Good variety too. You deserve a lot more subsand likes.
Thanks Bart appreciate that thanks for watching also
I pull for the Honda mower because of its power
Interesting . I will only use Honda residential mowers . I’ve used them since 1981 . I’m on my second Honda mower as of June 2024 . I did buy 2 Honda HRX217 HYA models brand new in the box . Haven’t opened them yet but I have them . I’ve never had any issues with my Fl St Augustine grass or cutting zoysia.
There's pros and cons to both I've owned the ego. It's light it folds up, no gas no maintenance required. The cons vs gas. less power, the batts die every 3-4 years, they're getting cheaper but not super cheap either. Other than that battery is so convenient and much quieter. if you have less than a 1/2 acre, then a batt mower is great. The power difference sometimes matters when you have ton of leaves on the lawn or branches, nothing chops them up and bags as well as the power of gas. I now have a toro 60v, I like the bag better than the ego.
You are lieing! Nobody that has EGO says that the batteries die 3-4 years. People have it for 5 years and the battery works just like new! 10 years old Tesla electric cars have 90 % or their original capacity, that means you can use the battery for more than 20 years and you would still have 80 % of the original capacity.
@@drister007 well here in az I mow every week and yes my brand new ego battery didn't last more than 4 years. I now have a toro battery mower and I'll be surprised if it lasts any different. Batteries don't like the heat.
@@williammorales8204 1. If true that is VERY VERY VERY rare occasion. In 99 % of the time that does NOT happen. Does battery have shorter running time or was it completely dead? EGO offers 5 year warranty on some of their batteries.
2. Battery last more than 20 years normaly. I challenge you: go and look at 10 year old Tesla and people like Bjorn Nyland that measure the degradation. 10 years old Tesla STILL have 90 % of their original capacity.
3. Battery can cope with heat no problem if the battery chemistry is choosen correctly. You probably only expose battery to outside summer heat 1 per week when mooving, you don't store your battery in the schorching hot sun all day long everyday of the year probably.
@@williammorales8204 All the electric movers users tells that their 5 year old batteries are working just like it was new.
@@drister007 not this. I miss the weight of the ego but the toro pace thing is smooth.
I have a honda and an ego. Love them both for different purposes. Ones super light, quiet, and can cut grass for light lawn stuff easy. Perfect when i dont want to constantly rotate a 100lb+ mower around. Where as my honda is great for higher torque applications. Back yard neglected and full of weeds? My honda will destroy them with ease. But its loud, stinks, and i need to run to the gas station. Battery wise its not a big deal. Most comments you hear are the very very small part of overall failure. I dont hear people complain much anymore about phone batteries. Like anything do your research before you buy into something.
Another great review! I have an auto transfer set up for $20 per month dropped into a “Lawnmower Battery” savings account-never miss it! By the time I need to replace the battery (5-year warranty on the 10Ah), it won’t hurt a bit. In fact, I’ll even have enough for a new lawnmower, should EGO have a worthy upgrade by then. Love my EGO with the high lift blade and bag-lawn looks fantastic!
Hi Danny thank you and thanks for sharing, I like the savings idea actually! Thanks for your support
Love your videos. Definitely helps us noobs out on Wich mower to purchase. Still glad I stuck with green works pro. It doesn't drop any mulch at all
Thank you
I have an electric trimmer and blower, but my mower is a Honda. I'm confident that with proper maintenance that mower can last a few decades.
Seems the EGO stripes the lawn more with mulch than the Honda, which distributes it more over the full path. The mower I'm replacing stripes the mulch as well. Not a fan of the striping, as that means you have to overlap your passes back and forth to pick up the previous mulch, which is more mowing becuase you're making narrower passes than you could be.
Thank you.
You are the best review guy.
Edward thank you, I sure try my best for you guys 👍🏼
Awesome video. Great information. My daughter and I were blessed from our Hawaii family the Husqvarna battery 🔋 mower, WeedEater and blower. Putting them to the test and review soon. We’re learning a lot from you and your channel. Grateful 🤙🔋👍😎✌️
Nice Steven let me know how it goes and thank you 👍🏻
Always wanted to see good mower content hosted by Ira Flato.
Never heard of Ira
@@TechMadeEzy Famous host of Science Friday of PRI played on NPR. Likeable and pleasant to listen to, like you. Keep up the quality videos!
Aww thank you same to you
Thanks for the extraordinarily thorough review. I have a number of EGO tools, but because my Honda mower is only two years old (I have the older HRR version), can't really rationalize the expense of buying the EGO just yet since the Honda cut is quite sufficient, but I was close. Definitely will consider it at some point in the future since your video demonstrates it to be a worthy competitor.
Thanks Bill thanks for watching
Yo must also consider the fact that with electric mover you don't have to pay for gas, oil and maintenance any more. Calculate that expense for next 10 year, and battery powered mover is cheaper (litium batteries last more than 20 year, 10 year old Tesla still have 90 % of their original capacity).
@@drister007 Oh yeah, those definitely are things I've taken into consideration. At current gas prices, it's an even better bargain. I figure I'll try to get a few more years from the Honda, and by then, the electric might be an offer I can't refuse. Absolutely love the convenience of my other Ego tools.
@@billjordan1173 Cool! :)
@@drister007 nothing you said is outright wrong by any means at all, however there's a hint of a gamble on the amount of time you said the battery will last. I bet the "average " home owner with the "average" size yard will put what he says a new battery alone cost into a gas powered mower between gas in maintenance in a 10 year period.
I own this specific Honda mower and use it commercially for years now. The power is phenomenal. Versamow system is unique and ground braking. The plastic deck (Honda calls the material Xenoy) makes it rust and dent free while simultaniously very light which makes the mower extremely maneuverable. Another great trait of the Xenoy is the fact that the grass doesn't stick to it as much as it does on a aluminum or steel deck...
There are only two things that I would like to see improved. First is the height adjustment system which is annoying given the fact that you have to adjust every wheel individually. And the second thing is the lack of quality and sturdiness of the handle. After 2 years of intensive use the handle was busted and I had to weld the damn thing every few months....
Thanks for sharing Mark, Honda definitely has a hug fan base. It would be great to see them with a battery mower also, I'd love to see what they would do.
@@TechMadeEzy Honda actually recently dropped out their first EV mower but I haven't seen too many reviews of it..
What cool I have to check that out! Thanks
As a kid it was always briggs and straton mowers for me. Even my last gas mower was briggs and straton. First electric mower for me was a sun joe i hated it as much as I loved it. It was just so cheap.
Just thought I'd share: (LM2130SP, purchased Feb2021): No issues in 2021...in 2022 it simply cuts off while cutting. It appears to run for approx. 20 minutes then it shuts off and won't restart (Battery goes through 1 to 2 led indicator lights). But it will restart after some rest time: 15 minute rest, it will run for about 2 min. 45 minute rest, it will run for 10 minutes or so. Mind you I only took note of these types of times just once before taking it in. And I'm not cutting through overgrown grass here, I'm bagging very little clippings, probably even shorter than the 1/3 rule this time of year. The underdeck is clean, nothing there. Did this to me on 3 separate consecutive occasions this season (Mar/Apr 2022). It's not the battery, as I have swapped batteries and both work fine in the second piece of equipment (string trimmer). Also, nothing appears to be hot as for as I can tell and nothing out of the ordinary happens before or after, it just shuts off. I called EGO and they referred to me to their authorized warranty center (an hour away). I turned it in on 20 Apr and explained what it was doing to me. I called them today (27Apr) and they can't seem to replicate my issue. Which I was afraid of. The associate I spoke with said they went through several batteries and been going back and forth with EGO regarding my issue. But if they can't replicate what's happening with me not sure what else can be done. I guess, they are talking with EGO to see if any other customers are having similar issues this this lawnmower.
2Jul Update: Just wanted to share my LM2130SP mower has been working fine since I got it back (9May, they found nothing wrong). So far, I've cut nine times now, running about 50 minutes during each cut. Mind you some of those cuts was during this heat wave Ga experience in Jun. So whatever cause my shut off issues is beyond me.
Thanks for the update, hope you don't have any more issues
You want the mulch to be spread out not mostly where the wheels are. What’s the point of mulching if the mower doesn’t spread it out. That would be like fertilizing only in line with the wheels of the spreader and not covering the entire yard.
I do disagree with spec sheet, page 2, where you showed run time claim and put unlimited with gas for the Honda. Gas run time is not unlimited.
My last gas mower I used was my uncles and it was a high quality Husqvarna self-propelled mower. During a mow for his lawn, the gas would run out. I sometimes would be close to finishing but would have to stop and go to the shed and pour more gas in to finish it.
With my Ego mower, the battery also usually dies before finishing my lawn and I can go to my shed and pick up an already charged back up battery and put it in the mower faster than the time it would take to add gas, and with no mess.
You're comparing my 2 favorite brands so I greatly appreciate it. I'm sold on EGO for their quality, power, warranty, customer service and maybe most importantly their battery tech! I'm hoping EGO eventually makes an auger and even a smart trailer. I'm all in!
Smart trailer from ego🧐 why them specifically?
i'm finding nothing but horrible things said about ego's customer service and warranty. have things changed?
@@thatguy5358 No things haven't changed. I wouldn't buy one.
It have changed customer service calls take to long to get in touch with someone, they will call you the next day at 8:00am. So you can troubleshoot your problem but most people are at work. Then they say oh call us in the afternoon, then when I call nobody picks up keep on ringing.
Battery the old version are not so great mine just don't charge no more and my warranty is done 3 years
Another great and detailed review!
Thanks AJ
@@TechMadeEzy so when you gonna sale the Honda? 😂👍🏼
Day is coming honestly
@@TechMadeEzy I still keep a gas one around to. Haven’t touched it since I got my cordless mower. It might be about time o get rid of it.
I had to use mine recently just to get it warmed up, changed oil, blades, spark plug but if you leave yours laying around remove the gas at least.
Looked hard at electric. The whole idea of now gas/oil and less noise seemed appealing. Some love them some hate them. I wanted self propelled and sometimes mow pretty thick grass so if I got electric it had to be pretty powerful. Ended up with a Honda HRN216. $350-$400 cheaper and it looked like overall durability looked better on the Honda. Plus the cost or replacement batteries seemed pretty expensive.
I really think if you're in the ecosystem and you not only have a mower but you have a snow blower and a string trimmer and a power station that all use the same battery I think it really makes a big difference
I'll have the Honda any day of the week.
In your video i would guarantee that the revs were not up high enough on the Honda thats why it is not picking up the grass in the catcher properly as well as mulching.
I own a Honda residential unleaded 4 stroke mower which is 16 years old it has had 1 spark plug 3 air filters 3 oil changes and 3 lots of blades which in turn is about $200 for 16 years of work the mower starts first time every time it is really efficient on fuel and is not very loud when running.
I guarantee that battery piece of crap will thrown down the dump in 5 years or less thats if it lasts that long, your household power will cost you more because you have to charge the battery or batteries then forking out $ for new batteries because the original is not holding charge long enough.
People are going to get sick of buying and charging batteries.
In the next 5 to 10 years the battery mowers may have improved and battery time when mowing will be a lot longer and the charge time will be a lot quicker only then maybe i will look at one but until then I'll stick to my Honda.
Thanks for sharing Terry
Agree 100%
awesome review, thank you
Thank you
Sometimes if you are doing a high cut the gap between ground and mower skirt is too high to allow all grass to be sucked up into bag and some escapes the sides. Also if the bag mesh is getting blocked the vacuum under the mower cannot build up properly because the air being blown out the deck vent cannot escape quickly enough through the bag sides..
Very informative and impressive video superbly done
I know it’s nit-picky, but I love how the Ego bag lifts off…just picks straight up. I always hated how you have to tilt the bag forward on other models and you end up dumping out a good amount of clippings that you have to scoop up by hand.
I just bought the $600 EGO for $270 yesterday…it was the floor model at Lowes. It only has the single blade, but I’m looking into seeing if I can make it a dual blade.
Wow! Great deal MW congrats
@@TechMadeEzy I was going to buy the next model up for $699 but saw the floor model sitting there and figured it was a no brainer.
With the money I saved in the mower I upgraded the weed whacker and blower I was going to get and got the 16” weed whacker that has the auto line feed and the 765 CFM blower. Got all 3 for $898.
Lowes gave me the 10% military discount on the lawnmower and a couple of other items I bought, but not the trimmer and blower. I guess they consider them “appliances”. Can’t complain though.
Can't beat that, best of luck 👍🏻
I have always used honda mowers, I bought this ego mower, it is nice but i will be surprised if it lasts longer than the battery. That said some things are better with the electric, when it is wet and I just have to mow the deck will get clogged, with the ego I can stop flip it on the side, clear the clog and be back cutting much faster than the Honda.
The Honda did cut more in the bag and seemed finer for the same distance covered vs the Ego thus i would say it is creating more vacuum pull up more grass
My tools like the blower, edger, trimmer, etc are all EGO. However still prefer my Toro Super Recycler and Honda 217 HRX gas mowers.
i like the original handle on the EGO mower...they got too fancy with the 2nd generation and all the extra bells and whistles...i just want a mower that cuts, discharges, drives at my desired pace and is easy to use....the first model is perfect for doing all of these things ...I have had many different gas mowers with the Toro personal pace being my favorite but the battery option from EGO has done the trick for me.....i don't think i will ever go back to gas for any of my lawn tools
Thanks Brian, I got my hands on an older model, I need to go back and use that for a bit and see how I feel.
Love the EGO lineup. Sold all my gas tools. Last gas survivor is my mower. This is it's final season w me...
I have the prior gen EGo and biggest complaint is la long suction power for dense Bermuda grass. Seems two blades helped!
The LM2150sp or LM2156sp has a stronger motor and better torque I found that helped
I have had the same Honda mower for the past 5 years and don’t have hardly any loose grass clippings after cutting my lawn on the bag setting like you had after your cut. Either you installed your blade wrong or something is wrong with your mower. Just thought I would chime in on that so folks interested in the Honda aren’t misled or misinformed. And I have no hidden agenda and no interest in Honda and do not endorse their products.
Thank you for sharing
I have a Honda HRX too and I mainly notice cut differences are caused by the plant material it's having to cut as I have different shading and soil qualities in my yard, so that could be a factor too.🤷♂️
"George, our crazy neighbor is mowing in the dark again"! LOL!
I can just see that! Lol makes me laugh
@@TechMadeEzy @Tech Made Easy LOL! :-) | You're not alone, I've been known to do some odd projects after dark in my backyard, testing mower lights actually sounds reasonable in comparison! I have to add your comparisons are without comparison. You make the finest demo videos of these machines anywhere on UA-cam and they have all been most helpful! Thanks!
What almost no one is talking about is that although you have to replace the batteries in the ego lawnmower every 3-5 years is that ego batteries work in all ego products, and they have hedge trimmers, lawnmower, edgers, string trimmers, snow blowers, leaf blowers and more. That plays a big factor in cost believe it or not.
Being taller AND comfortable can be tricky. At first having the handle higher seems better. However, length of stride can be an issue if you are too close to the mower by angling the handle higher. Especially with the bag attached you can kick the mower. But if this causes you to lower the handle, your arms could get strained and tired more quickly. I'm 6'5 so with some grocery carts, strollers, etc I stub my toes or bash my ankles on what I'm pushing. The only way to check this would be in the store with the display model.
Agree Michael
I’ve had an electric mower for a few years, first a ryobi and then a makita. Just recently got tired of endlessly swapping between 3 sets of batteries and bought a Honda 217. Night and day difference to be honest. It has so much more power than electric and I get the lawn mowed in less than half the time. Before I would have to only mow half a strip at a time or the mower would bog down and stall. Now I can mow a full strip with ease.
Thanks for sharing your opinion and your experience
Honda it is. I need a new lawnmower and been contemplating between the Ego electric, the Toro electric and the gas powered Honda. Definitely going with the Honda. I just don't think the electric mowers are just quite there yet.
@@damako7072 good choice. Electric mowers are great in theory, the minimal maintenance and such. And they’re much quieter, like pushing a fan around. But the gas just has way more power and endurance. I’m loving the Honda, you won’t regret it.
I actually have both and used them commercially. They are very good in their on right! My crew is split, one loves the Ego and the other loves the Honda. In my opinion, the Ego wins. There is no gas or spark plugs to deal with, no extra cost maintenance while still giving a premium cut. The only reason one of my guys likes the Honda more is because of the battery. I use the 7.5 amp and at first would only get through half of the day. I now have replacement batteries with a turbo charger and make through the day with no problem, about 8 to ten jobs a day. After using both, I can honestly say, the Ego has some Power! I have the dual blade set up; by the way, my blades do not dull as fast as people are saying in the comments; and there have been a few jobs where the Honda stalled on tall grass and the Ego tore through it with no problem. They both are great! For electric I only use Ego and for gas I only use Honda.
Thanks for the feedback Grass buddy
The EGO motor would have to have a 4,000 watts of power to match the Honda.
My 2 favorite brands. I own the Honda Ridgeline just for it's versatility. The gate and bed with built in cooler/trunk is absolutely amazing! The backseats fold completely up and have a metal rack to hang clothes. It's great. Building my EGO lawn tool lineup, currently.
I've never actually looked close at the Honda Ridgeline, I've always liked the design
How does it do against wet grass? Or is it not water resistant? Thanks for the reply in advance
good video, thanks man!! I do wonder why nobody is talking about the price!? This EGO machine is super expensive!!
One of the few best quality products on the market
Please make an identical video of this in 10 years. I would like to know how your Ego runs then.
Honda with minimal maintenance will be in your garage 15 years from now
I replaced a HRX 217 Honda with the Ego a little over a month ago. Here are a few of my observations. For starters the Ego's blades get dull extremely fast. We've only mowed 5 times and they need to be sharpened badly. That means I will have to sharpen them several times a year. With the Honda I was good sharpening them once or twice a year.
The Honda seems to do a better job mulching but that could also be that the blades stay sharp longer.
The single adjustment lever is really nice on the Ego but I find the 3 setting to be a little too short and 4 to be a little too high. With the Honda you get more adjustments and I was able to mow at the height I liked.
I used the Honda strictly as a mulcher. The bag was still brand new when I sold it. Even with the lever set all the way to mulch a lot of grass would still get through and fill up the area behind it.
The self propel was easier to use with the Honda. I find myself not using it nearly as much on the Ego because it's so light and easy to push. I also like that I don't need the mower running to use it.
For the most part I am happy I made the switch. Not dealing with gas or oil is really nice. Also I can easily pick the Ego up and put it out of the way standing on end. I love that. Now if Ego could make some better blades I'd be really happy.
Thanks Kevin
Couldn't you just buy better blades for it? Serious question...
@@rconn4501 Not that I know of. Beside. if Ego made better blades the mowers should come with them.
@@rconn4501 The dual blade EGO won't take a universal type blade like most single blade mowers do. Honda's twin blades are also not replaceable with other ones.
@@stevej.1428 Their blade works just fine in their product...
I've had my Honda mower for at least 12 years and it's never let me down....until now. The hydrostatic transmission is not working properly and the mower is now in the repair shop. If the hydrostatic tranny is toast I won't put out the money for a new tranny, since up here in Canada they're in the $500-$600 range.
Instead, if I need a new mower I'll go electric. I really like the Milwaukee mower, but it's $1500! The Ego looks to be a good alternative, but at $1150 it's still not cheap.
Can’t believe how much more things costs in Canada Ron
I don't really care for Honda's 'Select Drive' but I love their 'Hydrostatic Drive' transmission. It is a shame though that Honda is discontinuing the manufacturing of mowers.
I'll take my Honda hrn216vkaa anyday
I'm curious why it appears that you are engaging the blade on the Honda before pulling the starter cord? I always start my Honda HRX with the blade disengaged and then I engage the blade after it is started and warmed up. That is the instruction in the manual, at least for my model year Honda. It seems like you are adding unnecessary resistance by turning the blades while pulling the cord. Also, I noticed that you had to pull the cord more than once to start it by doing this even though the engine was warm.
EGO is really giving consumers a good alternative, specially honda quit producing mowers as of 09/2023. While the ego would be PERFECT for a lot of folks. These honda mowers are littlery gas it up. Change the oil once every 50 hours, pop in a new air filter and check the spark plugm thanks to EPA eletric everything is going to be the future. Battery's are more likely to fail well before a honda engine. I can rebuild the machine myself for about $00-$120. When they battery for the ego is nearly $450 dollars and the mower is $750 or so... Huge disadvantage for me! I won't consider eletric until we can get replacment batteries for substantiall.
There are definitely compelling reasons to go eletric, however the current battery tech needs to be more advanced that can provide the same amount of run tine, cost a lot less to replace and find an actual "green" way to mine lithium. Folks think going eletric is going to save the environment, but little do they know the manafactures sourcing the compenents are still in the stone age and couteracting the "green" way
Wait Honda quit making lawnmowers?
@@Andrew.Aravis yes, 09/2023 was their last production month for mowers. I did call honda and they said that they will continue to support parts production for atleast the next 5 years. Thats good news. I expect atleast a decade out of my HRN216 before it's the point of not fixing. Honda parts are so cheap compared to other companies (toro) so I just stocked up in $200 dollars of common replacment parts (wheels, pinion gears) that regardless of how well you take care of your machines, common wear items will eventually have to be replaced
If you want a "new" one, your likey hard to find one without a large markup. I snagged a gently used Hrn216vla that was not under the recall for $250. I would recommend scouring the used pages for an hrx217 with the hydrostatic transmission instead of a slip belt The mower if you try to buy new is $650 yea no way would I touch a honda even though it's a fairly good setup. I still have my 14 year old personal pace toro that I still prefer that system but it's beat up good and after so many replacment parts it not worth putting more into it. The new toros are meh. The eletric start system on Hondas are superior and they have a magneto system to charge the battery while the engine is running. Toro does not and every time you use it, you sapping the power from battery and will need to be recharged eventually.
Honda twin blade system bone stock blades provide an exceptionally cleaner nicer looking cut in any situation. I've used countless blades with the toro and it always had a okay cut but it was never as clean as the honda was.
I think a lot of the praise for Honda has been for its small engines, not necessarily their cutting and mulching performance.
In this review the EGO seems to have more suction power than the Honda on grass. This is a BIG surprise. The first thing I noticed when I sold my Honda and bought the EGO was the lack fo suction. That was four years ago, before EGO offered the dual blade system. Please do a follow up in November comparing the suction power of the EGO and Honda on fall leaves. I have an older EGO with one blade and it is just about useless on leaves. As to gas vs battery pro/con: When I bought my first EGO four years ago I did some quick math, used gas at $3/gallon, that I mow every 4-5 days, and found that over four years the cost of gas about equaled the cost to replace the 7.5Ah battery. Add in air filters and oil and the cost of gas/battery is about the same. Thank you.
Hi Edward, yes owning a gas mower long term would be cheaper. I definitely like not having to mess with oil, gas etc but we all like different things and I respect that. The EGO select cut XP has more torque and Wattage than most of the ego mowers that I know of and that helped for sure. Thank you so much for watching I hope I have a big fall with a ton of leaves
The big win with electric mowers over electric cars is replaceable batteries. However, you have to be careful because if you buy a piece of battery powered equipment where they stop making the series the batteries get rare and expensive fast. I bought a Craftsman 60V trimmer and now the batteries are more than a whole new trimmer. When the battery dies, I'll likely just get an M18 bare trimmer off ebay for $100 since I have those batteries already. I have a super recycler mower that I bought in 2004 and it's still going. But I've thought I might replace it with electric when the time comes. I have even considered the Harbor Freight 80V series. But again, I'm worried about battery availability in the future since the biggest problem with battery powered equipment is the eventual death of the battery. I guess I'll see what is available when the times comes.
When thinking about costs in the future, consider that if someone does not know how to work on their Honda mower, shop rates are typically going to be $100+ an hour, which is a significant percentage of the purchase price.
What would be the cost to repair an Electric Lawnmower? 0 because it will go directly in the garbage
Consumables-gas mower-of course the gas,then oil,air filter and possible oil filter.Also the spark plug.For the electric a replacement battery every several years and like the gas mower will have to replace the blade.I have a Greenworks mower that is 10 yrs old-battery still going strong.Big wheels are good on rough terrain.
Honda stopped making gas mowers in late 2023. You can still find them in stores, but once they’re all sold that is it ☹️
Bought a Honda gas mower something like 4-5 years ago based on their stellar reputation. Last year in the middle of mowing, it refused to roll backwards. Felt like the transmission was locking up. Did some research and found this a pretty common problem. Recommendation was to emory cloth or fine sandpaper the axle where the bushing is. Did that and used the mower without issue a couple of more times. Now this year, same issue happened. Was able to free it up by hand. Next time out, not so lucky and the axle transmission refuses to allow it to roll backwards. I am fed up and now I hear that Honda is leaving the (gas) mower business altogether. I went out and got an Ego. While it feels pretty cheap to me, much of that probably because it is so light, I figure I'll give them a good shot. I'm frankly beyond disappointed with the Honda though. Engine is wonderful, it mows well, but the axle transmission issues are just too much. Keeping my hopes up with the Ego.
My old Honda walk behind did that once, but some spray lube fixed permanently. Mower is over ten years old and still runs like new. Gave it to my son when I went electric.
@@jfrye6057which electric mower you went with? I tested Ego on rent, on my buffalo lawn and it came out disappointing.. boggs off and not picking up anything even at the lowest setting, seems low on power and found it too toyish then a real good mowing experience. Please share your idea. I am sick of EGO fake reviews. Sorry but true!
@@hiteshsood5362 I have a 5 yr. old Ryobi 38" rider. My Son has a 21" Ryobi twin blade 40 volt walk behind. He says it mows as good or better than the 21" twin blade Honda gas walk behind it replaced.
I bought my Honda in 2014 and have spend several hundred in parts to keep it going, doing the work myself I had to replace wheels twice, transmission once (might be making noise again) and the drive gears to the wheels, had to replace 5 of the handle bar lock knobs (yes, I know the mower only has 2, finally modified them and use nails instead of roll pins). Had to change another handlebar bolt to a flush version so it won't snag the fence. Lots of oil, gas, spark plugs, and air filters over the years. It also currently has an oil leak from an o-ring in the head. The environmental factor is huge. I don't know the stats, but not having emissions controls or a catalytic converter... mowing for an hour is as dirty as driving a car for thousands of miles. All that being said, I've been watching for a deal on an EGO as I'll continue to use the Honda, and perhaps the EGOs will just get better and better.
I just purchased the EGO snowblower with the steel rotor. Can I use those batteries, which it comes with two, with this mower. I want to purchase a new mower this summer.
Hi Jim congrats I hope you have a great experience! Yes all ego batteries are compatible with all ego equipment that’s one of the big benefits, Stay in touch let me know how it goes
The Ego looks more consistent side to side. Looked better on video. It looked like the cut on the Honda was not as good on its left side.
I need Ego to make a 30 inch push mower.
I hear you Dan, GreenWorks had a 25 inch and people seems to love it
I have the new Honda. Hex 217 and it blows away the ego select cut xp with 10 amp battery I had the ego 10 amp returned it. Also the new 200 cc honda hrx mulches like a beast and mulches leaves like a beast to.
I'm Honda on this one. Any battery mower for that matter. Call me old fashioned but I do own a string trimmer that's battery.
We all prefer different things for our own reasons that's cool
@@voyagezhong sorry but my comment was I vote for the Honda gas mower. Both my mowers are gas but I use a battery powered string trimmer.
Thanks for the comparison! I love my Honda mower, but rear discharge DOES NOT work. This does not throw the grass and it down right stinks! Best things I like about the Honda mower are 1) the motor & 2) the undercarriage.
Thank you
The Honda bag is older and the Ego bag is brand new there for it’s not fair to compare the suction the bagging part.
Funny cause I have the Honda HRX217 and looking to get the ego😅
I'd say the best takeaway from this is Electric has arrived. It has the the same performance as a gas machine at this point. Run time and battery longevity is still an issue, though the average residential consumer will get around 8 to 10 years out of these batteries. Still, if you know your way around small engines the gas machines will last much longer. Most people don't know a thing about small engines and this is where these E-tools come in.
8-10 years is very wishful thinking.
great vid ,,just wondering about Honda grass left behind ,,may be the speed u are walking at (slow ) the speed of the engine is greater then the battery power ,,, in which WOULD leave behind more grass???? just a thought ..an idea ,,, doing both at like half speed or faster ( bagging ) bet ya t don't leave much grass behind
Bagging would pick up more for sure
Why don't you compare Honda battery powered mower with Ego on a buffalo lawn. The grass you test on is very easy to cut. Please make one on Buffalo lawns
I wish Honda had electric mowers in the US
Honda hrx217 all day! I'd rather finish mowing, than waiting, .....charging batteries.
I’ve had my mid tier gas mower for 8 years. I’ve never done a lick of maintenance, I never winterize, I leave it out in the rain constantly, and it starts 2nd pull every time. Hard to hurt these things.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Electric mowers are only good on small (under 8000 sf) flat yards. I have the Makita XML09 a commercial model. It is a niche mower and allows me to offer all electric service, plus I have been on the Makita platform many years(have lots of batteries) and my XML09 is heavier then most electric mowers. On small flat postage stamp yards or when I have a small amount that cant be cut with my zero turn the Makita is great. I also own a Honda HRX217, YBravo GenII 25 and a Toro Timemaster. Without fail the gas mowers out perform the electric in morning dew grass, over grown yards, hilly terrain , my experience shows the Honda to be the best mulch and cut quality, YBravo(true commercial mower) best discharge cut and the Timemaster is the best all around mower(its a homeowner mower so one has to handle it carefully or the commercial work will tear it up). Home owners with over 10,000 sf of yard that are cutting once or twice a week Timemaster hands down if your willing to spend $1500. They will save you time, mine is a 223 B&S and 4 yrs old with an electric start, runs great and simple to service(oil change takes 10 minutes).
Thanks for sharing
Ego batteries can go in the snowblower and that’s a huge win.
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I would cut with the Ego at it's highest cut height setting as that's where most people seem to have problems with mohawking and poor cut quality.
I did that test in this video colonel
Yes,it's why it's called " a blade of grass" grass shades itself and the dirt surface ,when the drought comes def mow high while the other lawns die
my ego is alot quieter than yours... mine is brand new 2023 model, they might of changed somethings around on it. great comparison.
Thank you yeah they’re always updating the model. Adding more height, settings, etc..
At one point you personally favor the EGO am I correct? If so what is your yard size and do you have flat land or slopes? Thank you for all your time and efforts to inform us..great video..
Hi Danny thank you
I used EGO more yes but have to stay open as I try and test other brands that’s pretty important. My yard isn’t too big we have 5000 square feet, not as flat as I would like, more bumpy
@@TechMadeEzy thank you for your honest answer, but would like your opinion. I have 10,000sf bumpy and I have two slopes, what mower would you suggest other than a ride on. Once again thank you for your guidance, I think because of all your comparison videos you would be a good source of info. Again great videos…thank you.
I really can’t make the decision for you, I wish I could but it’s not right. GreenWorks, EGO, Ryobi are some solid brands to choose from. I would definitely get a self propel mower
In the Fall, Honda obliterates EGO when picking up and mulching leaves. If you only have space for one mower and want the best that can both cut grass and mulch leaves/debris, Honda is the best choice.
Thanks Chris