Civil War 1863 Springfield Revisited - 133.7k Subscriber Special
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Original Model 1863 Springfield .58 caliber rifle-musket made in 1864. It was nickeled at some point, probably as a parade rifle by the GAR. Otherwise, it's in very good shape.
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Howdy, friends. I wasn't super happy with my first video on this bad boy, so I decided to revisit it now that I have 100x as many subs as I did then. Reloads are still a bit slow and awkward, but I have the vision of a naked mole rat with this camera setup, so this is about as good as they're going to get.
And before I get a flood of comments again, US-made cartridges did NOT use wads.
What's wads ?
@@skyrok0645 A bit of paper or cloth you stuff in with the musket ball or bullet to help keep it in place and make sure it has a good seal against the barrel.
Looked like your hands were shaking which is unusual, is it cold or is that head setup really that hard to work with sometimes?
@@John.McMillan Like I said, vision of a naked mole rat. And no depth perception. It's frankly a terrible way to film, but it seems to give decent results.
@@TenaciousTrilobite The results certainly are good, I appreciate the lengths you go to provide top tier content.
Can't believe he's actually reloading it like how they did in the field instead of using 13 different tools to just set the ball in place
you saying that people have used 13 different tools just to put the bullet in place?
@@justarandommalayboi8231 learn what an exaggeration is
@@kazimierzmalewicz3604 ik what it is, i'm just asking is all
@@kazimierzmalewicz3604 No need to be an asshole.
Imagine doing shit under pressure. And this was a huge leap forward compare to conventional muskets
Now i can see why wars lasted so long.
This war lasted 4 years. Afghanistan was fought with tanks, aircraft, and fully automatic weapons. It lasted 20 years.
@@CDJCMstryker In Afganistan, just like Viet Nam, the idiots in D.C. kept the military's hands tied. If it had been allowed " total war" mose it would've been over in months with no Taliban left alive. Another waste of blood and treasure by the fool who are afraid to use the power available.
dz, wars from the medieval, victorian or musket wars in general?
Funny, because this was the percussion capped ones, which made it way faster and reliable.
Imagine flintlock or even matchlock.
This guy is very slow and awkward with every reload, I love his videos though.
3 rounds shot in approximately 2minutes and 15 seconds, could be interesting to compare this to the "rates" of fire that an infantryman needed to do in real combat condition. Cool video
I’m told they trained to three per minute and expected about two per minute in combat. They weren’t fishing stuff out of cargo shorts and they didn’t have a camera setup covering their eyes, though.
tbh alot of kills in the battle field were done with bayonets cuz they could get shot very easily if they reload in the middle of battle without cover
@@echstatistic 1% of the kills in the civil war were bayonets, they were not used often. While yes, they could get shot while reloading, they had trenches and cover.
@@plutoziummmmm And most importantly, hundreds of other infantrymen around them, sending big rifle slugs downrange!
@@hux2000 Yeah
I can't even believe how beautiful that rifle is, that's incredible
Trilobite was at Antietam don’t ever let him tell you otherwise
I was on the forgotten third side of the battle fighting with the horseshoe crabs from the Potomac
@@TenaciousTrilobite i knew it!
Trilo is so old, he was literally at every conflict in history, he saw what Cain did.
He knows why the dinos bit the dust
@@ZanXpeacemaker0989 Trilo was the rock Cain used to kill Abel with
@@Dyloaniusmonk trilo was the meteor that killed the dinos
I love how all his videos are subscriber specials 😂
I was getting subscribers faster than I knew what to do with them for a while there. There were actually a couple milestones I had planned out that I skipped because they were going to be back-to-back specials.
Gotta hit those algorithms son
They're like markers for how many subs he had on that day
He likes his subscribers
So
another beautiful classic rifle, what a collection!
I think those rounds are 58 cal. A real bone crusher. That weapon actually has rifling, which makes it more accurate. Great video.
People don't realize how advanced these rifled muskets are compared to muskets and rifles used in the revolutionary war. The civil war was really the first modern industrial war fought by the U.S. the advantage in speed and accuracy the minie ball gave troops forced a change in old infantry tactics. This of course was ignored by the French and they suffered greatly in WW1.
While obolete, is still a viable weapon if you have no other choice
@@Alex76254R Early war French uniforms were... blue. Its like they wanted to be seen. Carrying heavily outdated rifles which still were intended for use as volley fire weapons. Out of all the WW1 service rifles, the lebel is the last thing Id want to be issued as a grunt. I'd even take a revolver over it if not a M1911 pistol.
@@eugenewang4650 Late war uniforms were also... blue. Light blue, Horizon blue! Arguably more visible depending on where you are.
What do you mean about the lebel? Most rifles since the 1850s are designed to easily function as an individual weapon... the lebel is smokeless and has actual iron sights, "volley fire weapons" like a typical smoothbore flintlock musket have none because they are actually meant to be used as that.
The First Person gun man has hit the funny number of subscribers. Please applaud.
i wonder what it felt like to be in a war of 1850's like... hol up bruh im reloading gimme a sec
better than half a century earlier 'hol up bruh im reloading gimme 30 secs'
@@carrott36 not better than centuries earlier "hol up i dont actually have to reload as im just swinging a blade around"
@@carrott36 more like 15 seconds.
@@lefr33man nah, that's only the best soldiers usually. The fastest I've ever seen or heard it done was a guy saying he could get it in 9-13 seconds, and he managed 13 that time although I'm sure he can do 9. 20 seconds was the expected reload rate for the British Army, but in battlefield conditions for pretty much everyone it was often 30 seconds, at least for the less-drilled troops.
And the answer - "No problem, bro, take your time. I'm gonna go get a sandwich, you want something?"
I wanna say congrats because you have an amazing ton of new subscribers now! You always do a great job in giving us the entertainment that we seek. Thank you for your work
Props to you for doing the whole reload.👍
Quality video. Straight to the shooting part no unecessary talking
When Johnny comes marching home, you hit em with this..
The bullet that speeds out of this gun must hit the target and leap into 5 other enemies as a compensation for the time it takes to load one single bullet
Gorgeous looking rifle, love these video's.
Keep up the great content
An average of 50-55 seconds to reload. Very nice
Really shows the higher rate of fire the minie ball offered.
...Yes, this is an improved rate of fire.
I saw a guy at the range reloading his 1855 springfield in 13 seconds, so yeah this is pretty fast if you know what your doing.
...Except this guy is very slow, got a camera on his front and is having to fiddle with a lot of things in his hands. You don't know what you're talking about.
As a regular War of Rights player....I find this beautiful 😍❤️
Your rifle is in amazing condition for its age. I also have a model 1863 and I have shot it, but at some point its barrel was re-lined and the exterior finish on the barrel has some pitting and minor rust.
What’s crazy is that in the Civil war or any war before that using some form of muskets were expected to fire 3 shots a minute just to get as much lead flying through the air at their target.
Gun reloading videos are satisfying. Especially muskets and other muzzle loading weapons you use. Subscribed!
I can’t even have one of these were I live , I just really want to shoot at the range or like a sport but even that is very hard to get a permit .
I just keep plinking with my air rifles :)
Thanks for the nice video !
Oh wow where do you live?
@@crezzyt Portugal .
@@rolha666 i didnt know portugal had strict gun laws, damn… im glad that i can own anything exept full autos. Germany is quite nice… i miss america sometimes tho
@@crezzyt Very strict, but at least we have low gun violence I guess .
@@rolha666 we have had 8 shootings since 1970 here in germany so i dont think guns are the problem ;)
And we can own pretty much like people in the US
That 1 round per minute fire rate is insane!!!
Did you mean 0.5 round per minute?
A 58 caliber rifle musket shooting a heavy mini-ball over a very stout charge of 120-150 grains of powder is an excellent large/dangerous game load within 150 yards or so. Of course having only one shot isn't optimal, but the rifle/load itself is more than adequate for cleanly taking any beast that roams the earth. 58 caliber Remington Zouave rifle muskets were used to great effect in the 1870's by professional hunters in Africa on elephants.
Load was 65 grains of FFG
@@kirktrof Correct, that was the original military load. I was referring to the load used by PH's on Elephants.
Now imagine trying to take that second shot at the charging grizzly bear back in 1863!
At that stage you use your flintlock or your bayonet and pray.
@@Maus_Haus Nobody's using flintlocks if they can help in in 1863. Much rather have a revolver or a Spencer in 1863.
This is some quality ASMR. Have a sub
Im a real man of histiry , and all these types of videos are gppd , keep up the good work
Bro I like your videos they are entertaining keep it up 👍
3:00 When your friend is from Georgia
Nice work bro, i hope you have a lot more subs.
Word of advice, it is not advised to remove the cap until after you reload, removing the cap allows air to flow and make any sparks flare in the breech, and could ignite your next load as you reload.
Bingo
Black powder always lots of fun, still have my 58cal. Zuave Union musket along with a 50cal. cap and ball Pistol. Have used the mini ball but prefer the round ball for better accuracy. Also wish could find the sabre bayonet that was used to complete it.
Imagine how one-sided engagements would have been if one side had the 1873 trapdoor Springfield instead of this. What a difference a decade makes.
Beautiful peice of history
This under the stress of battle especially in one the bloodier civil war battle would have not been fun
Them trapdoor rifles are just gimmicks sonny, what you need is a nice Springfield percussion rifle. If it was good enough for me in Vicksburg, it's good enough for you.
My favorite muzzle-loader.
This is a top of the notch home defense weapon
Que bela arma e em otimo estado, parabéns.
you seem to shake a lot? I notice it in other videos too. Is it cold? Are you nervous? Or just general shaky hands? Sorry if this seems rude I was just curious, great videos and beautiful gun
It's because I really can't see anything with the camera setup covering my eyes. I get a blurry view of my phone screen a few inches from my face and no depth perception, so I have to feel around for things.
@@TenaciousTrilobite oh right, I forgot about that rig you had set up on your head. That makes a lot of sense, as you are seeing through a screen for vision.
@@TenaciousTrilobite پاسخ سوالم را گرفتم 🌹
oh shit. grats on the 1337 count
“No rapid fire!”
Pew
This reminds me of Sharp training soldiers in that 3 rounds a minute scene.
멋진 영상 그리고 멋진 스프링필드
With the amount of time it took to reload them rifles and under the stresses of combat you better make sure you land them shots
Soldier:Reload
Soldier again:finally
Another soldier from the border:Sir, the war is over
This is why switching to your sidearm is useful
Hab einen Nachbau von dem Gewehr, tolles Teil. Hohlbodengeschosse sind empfehlenswert.
I like to imagine how much lead is laying in that one spot on the ground that you shoot at in all of your videos...Must be a lot.
Very awesome!
I have trap door in 45-70 it's a shooter I got it was sighted in at 400 yards
Lookin good!
I love your content
I don't mean to be rude, but want you to be as safe as possible. In your loading procedure, it's best to leave the spent percussion cap and hammer down to maintain an airseal. Then load the next cartridge, return to half-cock and replace the cap after you've charged. This prevents air getting to the chamber that could keep embers burning, and makes the chances of cook-offs even more unlikely. Great video, thanks for sharing!
Couldn't air just get in through the .58 inch hole sticking out of it?
Meanwhile on the battlefield: some random Union dude, "Wait wait wait! I'm reloading!", 20 seconds later... "So how's the kids back in the South?" Confederate dude waiting: 😐
Tenacious Trilobite- Can you do some guns from WW1 & WW2 like all the way from Handguns to AK-47.
Most of the guns I have done for this channel have been from the World Wars. This is one of the few that wasn't
@@TenaciousTrilobite Can you do some new guns like Snpier Rifles
@@justingill8781 I'll do a few at some point, but I don't have many of them on hand. Many of the most well known ones from video games and movies are far too expensive for me to be able to afford.
@@TenaciousTrilobite Do some handguns then
@@TenaciousTrilobite واقعا از ویدئو های شما لذت میبرم 🌹
Now let’s go back even further. Flintlock, then Matchlock, then wheellock, then… uh, I don’t know. I’ll have to get back to you on that.
Beautiful
Can't believe that there was so many Civil War deaths from that slow rifle.
It’s one of the most accurate rifles
When you’ve got 80,000 men shooting at each other while standing facing each other in a straight line! Most deaths though were due to Disease and poor sterile conditions in the field hospitals. Many died of sepsis and infections caused by poor sterile conditions.
Getting hit by the bullet this thing fires is a death sentence and is immediate. If you survive getting shot at with this thing... well, that is an almost guaranteed death sentence in of itself; if you didn't die from blood loss waiting for the surgeon to get to you after attending more than 100 patients before you, without painkillers, you would most certainly die of gangrene due to the dirty amputating instruments that wasn't sterilized before being used on you as sterilization and antiseptics wouldn't be mainstreat until the 1870's. Many injured soldiers would rather plead to their comrades to mercy kill them rather thanhave them face a slow and painful death from the hands of an Army doctor.
The biggest cause of deaths in the US Civil War wasn't combat but diseases incurred between combat and the primitive medical science that tried to save the injured but oftentimes accelerated their deaths. If you ever been to a Boy Scout Jamboree, chances are you have heard of their sanitation practices in place at camp. Civil War military camps are like that... minus the sanitation and cleanliness. If you're not vaccinated for common diseases like chickenpox or smallpox or have on hand medicine to combat common diseases like cough or even wash your body or your utensils for eating, chances are you'd be incapacitated or worse killed due to the inadequate health facilities that are seldom available. It's this experience that led to the US Army establishing a sanitation department dedicated to the study of disease propagation and prevention, leading to such important studies as the cause of yellow fever and ways to combat it. The Civil War and the deplorable army camp conditions both sides suffer from is what pushed Clara Barton to establish the American Red Cross after the war...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 You might be exaggerating a little. There's multiple men who were shot in the face with the scars to prove it (General Gordon of the ANV) and survived decades.
They certainly had some sort of painkillers - well, that's what anaesthesia is. Whiskey, laudanum, morphine, ether, chloroform. the Union especially would have this stocked.
Antiseptics were not mainstream in the 1870s. Plenty still died. in the 1890s almost any surgeon was operating in their own clothes and shirtsleeves, rarely using anything like gloves.. such was the case even in the first world war.
"A good soldier can fire three well-aimed shots in under a minute." - Colonel Robert Gould Shaw, from Glory
There is a video on UA-cam that shows how to turn Springfield rifled muskets into trapdoor Springfield rifles.
thats depressing.
Question: why don't/can't people just shove that entire paper cartridge in? Won't it be destroyed upon firing anyways?
I don't think the cap would be able to set it off. They did what you're describing with the smaller revolver cartridges, but those used much thinner combustible paper.
@@TenaciousTrilobite Ah, I see.
@@TenaciousTrilobite Alright but what if you poured in the powder, but didn't unwrap the bullet before stuffing it in?
Couldn't you save a bit of time during reloads that way?
@@Xamp1256 I’m not sure the minié ball would actually properly expand to engage the rifling if you did that.
@@Xamp1256 This worked for older, round musket balls, but these minié-balls are made to expand when fired, so they engage the rifling. Paper gets in the way.
I wonder how many bullets are buried in that spot where you shoot at
Perfect weapon to describe "Switch to your sidearm or die"
Except that most Civil War soldiers didn't have sidearms (other than their bayonet, which was useless from a distance). They just had to hope not to die. Must've been freaking terrifying.
Might sound cowardly, but I prefer my life, I'd actually run if I somehow got into that type of situation
@@jeffreydorman8715 There's thousands of portraits of enlisted infantrymen with sidearms , but yeah. Majority in any war only have their main longarm with them.
@@NotTheShiro If yk anything about these rifles you wouldn't want to outrun them. You'd also be running away from your unit while you tried getting shot in the back.
You didnt hit all the birds this time!
1337
lol nice one
Hi, I have a question. With smooth bore muskets you could use the paper as wadding right? Why not here? Is it because it would interfere with the accuracy? Btw, cool vid ;)
Depends on how the cartridge was designed. The British Pritchett cartridge was designed to use paper as a patch. The American Burton and Williams cartridges were designed to be used without. They’ll get the best results when used as intended
@@TenaciousTrilobite thanks :)
It’s really cool how in 100 years guns have become so more advanced that all u have to do if put a box in and pull a lever to shoot.
100?
@@andria6838 you can’t read?
Los rifles de monotiro eran muy lentos, pero para la época era tecnología de última generación, ahora tenemos fusiles semiautomáticos y automáticos, en esa época había que conformarse con eso 👍👍
“They aint making these things when they used to make” -👴🏻
What kind of POV camera do you use? Ive thinking about getting a camera like that as well to make instructional videos for my friends.
My phone, some goggles, and some rubber bands
@@TenaciousTrilobite that sounds like alot of trouble instead of buying a camera but I applaud you for the effort
bro you can also like when you pour powder first put the cartridge backwards and tear the bottom
No. You are describing British Pritchett cartridges. I was using American Burton cartridges, which have the bullet facing the other way.
oh sorry
but what if you british prichett cartridge 🗿🗿🗿🗿
@@virajkishore6960 Pritchett cartridges will work. They are a little small since they’re designed for a .577” barrel and the Americans used a .580” barrel
You didn’t want to wait until 186.3k subs?
I previously did it at 1337 subscribers, so I went for 100x
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A rifle that was manufactured by the Springfield Armory and independent contractors between 1863 and 1865. The Springfield Model 1863 was a .58 caliber rifled musket that was only a minor improvement over the Springfield Model 1861. It was the most commonly used longarm in the American Civil War, with over 700,000 produced. It was also the last muzzle-loading longarm produced by the Springfield Armory. The Model 1863 had two variants: Type I and Type II, which differed in some features such as the barrel bands, the ramrod, and the rear sight. Many Model 1863 muskets were later converted into breech-loading “Trapdoor Springfields” after the war
The 1863 didn’t introduce the Allin system. That showed up with the Springfield 1865 and 1866, neither of which saw use in the Civil War. Are you having an AI write these or something?
I searching any info, but its not correct, so i give up, i only hope its all correct
Back to your Musket, eh?
Only 1 per minute? You need to pump those numbers up😉
I noticed the powder charge is already packaged behind the projectile. I wonder why they didn't make some kind of a package that soldiers could just put into the barrel, ram it home, put the primer on, and fire. I understand the cartridge was a huge leap forward from all this but I wonder why the original package could not be utilized as one unit.
That was a thing that was done, they're called paper cartridges but ig he just decided not to use them here. They were used in pistols, rifles, and very interestingly needlefire rifles before the invention of the metallic cartridge
@@JosephStalin1941 He was technically using paper cartridges in the video. Just not one that goes into the gun
The Chassepott rifle of 1866 did that, also, the Dreyse Needle gun of the 1840's. Biggest problem with both guns is obturation: how to keep those gases produced from the BP detonation from going back at the shooter's face every time they fire. That issue wouldn't be sold until reliable methods of making brass casings were made in the 1870's...
@@JosephStalin1941 Metallic cartridge was invented in 1812. Before all of this. In the ACW metallic cartridges co-existed with paper cartridges. This is a paper cartridge. You're talking about another type for breech loaders. There were nearly 60 MILLION rounds of Spencer ammunition procured by the government for the war.
*Shoots*
Takes 0.3 second
*Reloads*
Takes 300 seconds
It took around 40-60 secs
Hunters be like: lets hunt the wild animals down with muskets
In most European countries, that's legitimately their only option. Modern hunting rifles and shotguns needs to be registered to a hunting club and be in use for hunting at a bare minimum time per year before they can get a license. Muskets fall outside that. Capandball is an amazing channel showing you how to hunt with a BP rifled musket or for birds, a fowling shotgun...
your kinda like gunsoftheworld little brother, like in a good way
Bro I want one of those that you don’t need to clean up after shooting with it yo
So much better built than the overpriced Italian Pedersoli repros.
How old are these guns and also how did you get so many?
This one was made in 1864, and actually it isn't mine. Most of the ones I film do belong to me, though. I have just been slowly accumulating them over the years as I find good deals.
@@TenaciousTrilobite thanks
Just realized that the Lego musket is based off of this gun
It's not. It's based off of the Enfield
Pocisk jest ładowany z papierem , robi on za przybitkę. Nie wyrzucało się papieru.
American cartridges did not use a paper wad.
Wow the bullet were not going built round anymore
Exelente.
Cool man🔫🔫🔫🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
I've owned one in the past. Loading in combat you don't take time to peel the paper off the ball, you pour in powder then ram paper and all in. Also, the caps much easier to place with hammer at full cock.(in the originals the cartridges were paper that was greased to give lubrication and to help prevent water contamination.)
The original US-made cartridges (Burton and Williams) were designed to be loaded without a wad. You were supposed to remove the paper. It was one of the steps of the loading process. If you had greased paper cartridges, you were probably using British Pritchett cartridges. They will fit and fire in one of these, but they were designed for the P53 Enfield.
@@TenaciousTrilobite mine wan't the 69cal Springfield, it was the 58cal like the Enfield. Had an original Minnie ball mold, too. I believe it was 480grains with pure lead. (I also have a Trilobite fossil found along a W. TEXAS creek 45 years ago.)
@@johnchandler1687 I’m not talking about the .69 cal Springfields, I’m talking about the .58 cal Springfields. The cartridges that the US adopted for the .58 cal Springfields were intended to be used without paper. Sometimes during the Civil War, they used British cartridges. British cartridges were the ones designed to be used with paper.
@@TenaciousTrilobite Back when I shot charcoal burner a lot I was disappointed that those Italian copiers never made a 69cal Springfield replica. Always wanted to shoot a deer or wid hog with one. Just to see the effect. Did kill a hog with the 58cal once. Very dead, very fast.
You should keep the hammer down over the spent cap when reloading, it will reduce the chance of a spark in the chamber and going off in your face.
where does one get their hands on a working civil war musket bruh
In an auction
gunbroker lol
Can easily buy them for less than $300 online
Спасибо человеку который придумал унитарный патрон, а в бою так пока перезарядишь оружие уже 5 раз убьют
Just ~43,000 subs before you have to load something like a Charleville, or a Kentucky Rifle on camera.
Oh no, that would be a nightmare
Question,has there ever been a account of a caplock gun firing unintentionally because the guy pushed the cap a little too hard
I’m not aware of any
@@TenaciousTrilobite try doing it, without any ammo inside
@@whanngabrylsanoy721 nothing happened
@@whanngabrylsanoy721 Try doing it yourself. Percussion caps are not THAT dangerous, there's a reason plenty of modern day explosives - i.e. every centerfire cartridge and grenade - still use them.
Bro how do I ram it down 💀
Away down south in the land of traitors, rattle snakes and alligators