Cottonwood Springs? It's my understanding that Curly Bill was killed @ Iron Springs, presently Mesquite Springs or maybe vice-versa. If memory serves me, this spring was located not far from a ranch near the Babocomari River where allegedly a few of the "Cowboys" buried Curly Bill in an unmarked grave. I think the Lowery brothers claimed ownership to the ranch property but never held a title or deed & may have leased it to another "Cowboy" member who was involved in the Curly Bill burial.
If he did not kill Curly Bill why did he not come in and claim the $1000 offered to him by the newspaper? I'm not saying you're wrong, just curious. I would love a video on the reasons you yhink he lived on without ever gaining public attention. Agree with you 100% on Stillwell. Do you think he was at Tucson train yards to make another attempt on the Earps or was it just coincidence?
My first comment would be that Brocius had not been in Arizona for several months, likely in Texas. We don't know if he was even aware of the award. Can you imagine the situation that would have developed had he made an appearance in Tombstone? I am working on a full-blown treatment of this topic, so people can see my reasoning on this. Stilwell was in Tucson to meet the train upon which Jerry Barton was coming in for the next day's appearance in court; Stilwell was to be a witness for him. He had no idea - to my knowledge - that the Earps would be on this train. Ike Clanton was returning to their hotel when the train arrived, leaving Stilwell alone at the depot. That he would attempt, one single man, attempt to bring down Wyatt or Virgil or Doc on this occasion, even a simple-minded man would not attempt. The whole scenario came about as a coincidence, a fatal one to be sure.
Very interesting video, and I believe you got it exactly right. Stilwell was in the company of Pete Spence, and man named Bode, another named Fries, along with Indian Charlie and Hank Swilling as lookouts. They met later at Spence's house, across the street from Virgil's house, and Marietta Spence, Pete's common law wife, testified that Stilwell and Spence were most likely the killers. But I disagree with you about Curly Bill. Johnny Barnes, who was wounded in the same fracas that left Curly Bill dead reported the same sequence of events that Wyatt did. He also soon died from the wounds he received during the incident, becoming the fourth and final victim of the "Vendetta Ride." And I want to add that I believe Frank Stilwell was the only really evil man out of the whole bunch. The Clantons stole cattle, the McLaurys bought the stolen cattle, Curly Bill and John Ringo were small-time rustlers, and even Pete Spence was just an opportunist who followed Stilwell around like a puppy dog. But I believe Frank Stilwell would have shot his own mother in the back for fifty dollars.
Thank you for your post; your comments are well-stated. That Stilwell was a "really evil man" might be a good topic of discussion. Morgan is the only man that he provably killed.
@@conorolaf1762 It's well documented that Virgil was grievously wounded from a Shotgun blast/blasts. It was so shattered that the surgeon had to remove a couple inches of the humerus (upper arm bone) to reset it to heal. Also, it's my understanding that Morgan was mortally wounded in the back from a Winchester rifle bullet.
DIDN'T Mr. BERRY DIE OF A HEART-ATTACK THE SAME NIGHT HE WAS WOUNDED? ALSO, DIDN'T FRANK STILLWELL SAY TO WYATT, JUST BEFORE WYATT KILLED HIM; "MORAGN, MORGAN, I'M SORRY, DON'T SHOOT MORGAN!!!".
We have 2 on Bass. One featured Ernest Marsh, who is a Bass Reeves reenactor who tells about Bass. Another video features Sydney Thompson who wrote the trilogy on Reeves. Sydney's books were used as guidelines for the latest Taylor Sheridan movie about Bass.
Good work Roy. Excellent
Wow great story! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for your outstanding content, history evolves as it is unraveled by curious and smart folks.
Thanks David!
@@WildWestHistoryAssociation My pleasure, indeed.
Cottonwood Springs?
It's my understanding that Curly Bill was killed @ Iron Springs, presently Mesquite Springs or maybe vice-versa.
If memory serves me, this spring was located not far from a ranch near the Babocomari River where allegedly a few of the "Cowboys" buried Curly Bill in an unmarked grave. I think the Lowery brothers claimed ownership to the ranch property but never held a title or deed & may have leased it to another "Cowboy" member who was involved in the Curly Bill burial.
If he did not kill Curly Bill why did he not come in and claim the $1000 offered to him by the newspaper? I'm not saying you're wrong, just curious. I would love a video on the reasons you yhink he lived on without ever gaining public attention. Agree with you 100% on Stillwell. Do you think he was at Tucson train yards to make another attempt on the Earps or was it just coincidence?
My first comment would be that Brocius had not been in Arizona for several months, likely in Texas. We don't know if he was even aware of the award. Can you imagine the situation that would have developed had he made an appearance in Tombstone? I am working on a full-blown treatment of this topic, so people can see my reasoning on this. Stilwell was in Tucson to meet the train upon which Jerry Barton was coming in for the next day's appearance in court; Stilwell was to be a witness for him. He had no idea - to my knowledge - that the Earps would be on this train. Ike Clanton was returning to their hotel when the train arrived, leaving Stilwell alone at the depot. That he would attempt, one single man, attempt to bring down Wyatt or Virgil or Doc on this occasion, even a simple-minded man would not attempt. The whole scenario came about as a coincidence, a fatal one to be sure.
@@RoyYoung-co6rs thank you sir for the prompt reply.
Very interesting video, and I believe you got it exactly right. Stilwell was in the company of Pete Spence, and man named Bode, another named Fries, along with Indian Charlie and Hank Swilling as lookouts. They met later at Spence's house, across the street from Virgil's house, and Marietta Spence, Pete's common law wife, testified that Stilwell and Spence were most likely the killers.
But I disagree with you about Curly Bill. Johnny Barnes, who was wounded in the same fracas that left Curly Bill dead reported the same sequence of events that Wyatt did. He also soon died from the wounds he received during the incident, becoming the fourth and final victim of the "Vendetta Ride."
And I want to add that I believe Frank Stilwell was the only really evil man out of the whole bunch. The Clantons stole cattle, the McLaurys bought the stolen cattle, Curly Bill and John Ringo were small-time rustlers, and even Pete Spence was just an opportunist who followed Stilwell around like a puppy dog.
But I believe Frank Stilwell would have shot his own mother in the back for fifty dollars.
Thank you for your post; your comments are well-stated. That Stilwell was a "really evil man" might be a good topic of discussion. Morgan is the only man that he provably killed.
It’s plain and simple. The Earps were marked men.
Do we know the types and caliber of weapons used against The Earps?
At the OK Corral or when Morgan was killed ?
@@WildWestHistoryAssociation When Morgan was killed as well as the attempt on Virgil.
I will forward to Roy Young, the author.
I'm sorry, I can't answer as to the types or calibers. @@WildWestHistoryAssociation
@@conorolaf1762
It's well documented that Virgil was grievously wounded from a Shotgun blast/blasts. It was so shattered that the surgeon had to remove a couple inches of the humerus (upper arm bone) to reset it to heal. Also, it's my understanding that Morgan was mortally wounded in the back from a Winchester rifle bullet.
Apparently Wyatt Earp new that Frank had killed his brother maybe he saw him when he shot him
That still is not 100%
DIDN'T Mr. BERRY DIE OF A HEART-ATTACK THE SAME NIGHT HE WAS WOUNDED?
ALSO, DIDN'T FRANK STILLWELL SAY TO WYATT, JUST BEFORE WYATT KILLED HIM; "MORAGN, MORGAN, I'M SORRY, DON'T SHOOT MORGAN!!!".
Thank you for a reasonable ending. Didn’t someone leave behind a hat or something In alley that night?
It was said that Ike Clanton's hat was found the night that Virgil Earp was ambushed, back in December.
I recommend turning the speed up to 1.5
Every storyteller has their own style.
So it was More Earps?
Sorry, I do not understand the question.
@@WildWestHistoryAssociation from the movie they're just 3 Morgan Earp Virgil.. I didn't know it was more brothers
Yes, James and Warren.
@@WildWestHistoryAssociation ok . Now will do one Bass Reeves?
We have 2 on Bass. One featured Ernest Marsh, who is a Bass Reeves reenactor who tells about Bass. Another video features Sydney Thompson who wrote the trilogy on Reeves. Sydney's books were used as guidelines for the latest Taylor Sheridan movie about Bass.
All I can say about Curly Bill is this is B. S.
Really? Tell us your take on it. We welcome any new proven information.