Had this monitor for a week after it suddenly became available on Newegg US. In the end, it wasn’t worth the price when the ASUS variant has a way better implementation of the panel. I couldn’t wrap my head around the aggressive ABL with HDR on it’s shipped firmware. Also, the build quality of this monitor is what you’d expect out of a $100-$200 product. Maybe some firmware update will help out the experience in the future, but for now it’s safe to say just go with either the LG or ASUS.
I've tried out all of them so far, and to me, the LG is the best bet. The reason being, the Asus's HDR colors are still very jacked up after their latest firmware update. The LG looked fine, IMO, and the brightness wasn't that much of a concern as long as you don't have extreme amounts of sunlight in your room.
@@alphapapa4446 Makes sense! It's definitely the brightest of the bunch. The only OLED I've tested that was brighter was the Alienware AW3423DWF, but it's an ultrawide which isn't for everyone.
All Acer monitors have that issue where you manually have to switch to HDR every time in the OSD settings. Acers monitor firmware has a lot of these needless annoyances for no reason, its just mind boggling, what were those developers thinking?
Yep, I am waiting for a different Panel with the same specs. I have an Oled TV LG C2 and it's nice but it hasn't made me want to run out and get an OLED Monitor. My M27qx is awesome just a little IPS glow but its easy on the eyes and has made me a fan of the high refresh rate.
Almost got the acer but then after a little research this weekend I saw it was the least bright of the bunch and decided to pull the trigger on the Asus!
I picked up the LG when it first dropped to $900USD during the May/June price dip, after rebounding, it's now available for $850USD in some places today. I prefer matte for monitors or otherwise close viewing distance. I have a glossy laptop, which was not my choice, and the glossy reflections are terribly distracting. My TV is glossy, and I feel it is fine at a comfortable couch viewing distance for content.
@@darrendavies1102 I'm very pleased with the LG model, Asus was off the table due to prior dissatisfaction with customer service. Corsair and Acer had not launched yet. I was so impressed with the LG monitor I bought an LG C2 on prime day to replace my aging plasma. Currently the monitor sits side by side an IPS display, which makes the black levels on the IPS look sad. HDR is cool to experience, watching a youtube video doesn't convey it any justice. Both the monitor and TV are plenty bright, I think any brighter would feel too intense, though I have no side by side comparison to experience. I don't think I could justify buying a 2nd oled monitor to outright replace my secondary display at the current price. The xeneon flex might have been interesting if the pixel pitch were not so bad, and its double the price, I'm sort of interested in curved screen from time to time, hopefully it's a concept that lives on.
It looks great, simple, sleek design, with no unnecessary, unseen "gamery" designs and lights on the back, I can't stress this enough, no one is looking at the back of the monitor, it should be as bland and cheap as possible no matter the price point of the product
I tried multiple 27" oleds and the massive 45" oled from LG monitor, and all of them were a no-go on the text. So I got a 42" C2 and the 4k really helps with text.
the lack of HDR auto-switch is a huge no in my book... even my ~330€ LG 27GP850-B has automatic HDR enabling & disabling along with windows or games (e.g. as software enables HDR, monitor switches by itself too)
The fact that they didn’t learn from other companies doing 2.0 when they are the latest to release the same damn monitor is astonishing. All they would have to do was steal all the other monitor’s best traits and they would’ve made more profit than any of them plus win monitor of the year.
Oh damn, kvm switch is pretty killer if you need it considering how expensive and hard to find high end stand alone KVM switches are. I have so much issues with kvm when shuffling my home work setup and my personal machine.
so for OLEDs its not "strobing" because there is no backlight to "strobe" its called BFI or "black frame insertion" where the screen flashes a black screen after every frame. it achieves basically the same thing, but it darkens the brightness if the screen overall. it also gives the "soap opera effect". because of the way it works, i would guess that higher FPS would mean even darker picture overall which is already a weakness of OLED in the first place
@absolutelysobeast You explained how OLEDs strobed while claiming they don't. It's just that the pixels are self emissivity on oleds, so the strobe comes from the pixels themselves, which is fantastic because that means zero crosstalk. Also, if the refresh rate is high enough to transition from having a visible strobing effect to just looking dimmer, a higher refresh rate won't affect its brightness. That comes from the percentage of the refresh allocated to pixels being on vs off. In this way, it can become a tradeoff between brightness and motion clarity; not through refresh rate itself. Also, the soap opera effect typically refers to the experience of the interpolation feature on many tvs today, which often gives mixed framerate effect which is off putting to some, but I will happily get any motion clarity and smoothness where I can.
I didn't believe all the negative reviews around these panels being too dim. Picked up the LG model as it was recently on sale and I was honestly shocked how bad it is. Easiest return ever.
That's subjective to your tolerance and room light. I'm using the Xeneon 27 OLED in SDR and ABL off and, while I wish it was a little brighter, it's perfectly fine for me. With ABL off it looks great but I hate the brightness fluctuation when using Windows. I'm the kind of guy who use IPS panels at 30/40% brightness though.
Yep, most people think brightness wouldn't be a big issue since they don't use their IPS monitors at high brightness, but you don't really get the saturation and contrast that OLED can deliver, without high brightness. HDR requires around 300 nits minimum. Once eyes adjust to the higher brightness, it all makes sense and people realize the necessity for that increased brightness, even if their room isn't bright.
For more context I've been using a LG C2 42" for about 9 months as my primary display. I've used a service remote to turn off TPC and GSR so it's much brighter than stock. The low brightness on the 27gr95qe made the colors look washed out and just off putting. I think pairing the lower brightness with a matte screen makes it worse. If you're coming from using a traditional style monitor at low brightness it'll probably look somewhat normal. I've also tried the AW3423DWF and it was much much better. If the text clarity wasn't so bad I would have kept it. I'm a developer so text clarity is moderately important.
Tim my man, your caution about OLED burn in helped me decide to go with the Alienware AW3821DW over the AW3423DWF. Chose the Nano IPS so I can work and not worry about burn in (I saw your video describing the faint line down the middle of your AW3421DW screen & that was enough for me hehe...). Also I'll be in a fairly bright room while working so IPS should work better there too, and no glare off the screen. I really wanted that OLED but from what I've seen in reviews Nano IPS sounds like a decent compromise for both work and gaming (even if the HDR isn't good lol...). This 3840x1600p screen is going to be sweet though for "work work" and of course for my side job of video editing timelines, pod casting... etc... etc... I'll get it next week and can't wait. For my kids, I went with 1440p 165hz VA panels, again, burn in concerns and they're terrible for turning off their screen savers and leaving their PCs sitting stagnant for hours. Not to mention they do hours of schoolwork etc... just too much static stuff on their screens all the time and I don't want to risk the burn in there either. Anyway, as must as I'd have loved that OLED HDR experience, I'll give the tech a few more years to sort out burn in and the like.
with the downsides of lcd, id bite the bullet and go for an oled. you still have to spend a fair bit of money to get a okay monitor with not terrible miniled performance
@@DrakonR blooming and inherently bad dark levels. noticeably slow response times. poor viewing angles. pricey for what they offer. oled doesn't get as bright as miniled can, but otherwise it's a package with advantages of tn, ips and va taken to another level. burn in hasn't been a problem for those who aren't careless, if you take at least a bit of care of your screen, it will look brand new for years
@@sakracliche you can't BS me. I own an LG C1, X95K 85", a neo g8, and I've tried all of the OLED monitors. miniLED is a much better experience overall. I'm not saying OLED is bad, but the hype is just hype and there's something to be said about great miniLED displays.
I really want a 240Hz OLED…but I realize I’d rather wait until the next generation of panels where they hopefully incorporate ULMB2 (aka black frame insertion) and up the refresh rate to 360 or even 480. 480 with BFI would be INCREDIBLE.
The ASUS version does this now for an effective 1000hz+. This guy @nxxiv436 sounds like a broken record, I bet he said the same thing when 144hz came out. Or maybe he was too young lmaooooooo😂😂😂😂
@@atomiccelery6798Well, beyond 240hz refresh rate is imperceptible to the eye unless it's on a 200" screen from 10 feet away. As much as anyone tried to deny it. You gain micro seconds in response time, that's about it.
@@OC.TINYYYmotion clarity increase is perceptible beyond 240 hz yes there are diminishing returns but there are also still big gains in motion clarity… for example when 480 hz oled comes out it will have 2 Ms persistence blur which will be double what crts used to have but it will look amazing and will be much better than the current models and brightness will improve over time especially once pholed tech comes.
hey, update for this monitor has just droped on acer support page for it! would love to see your comments on it! seems to be you can turn off ABL and annoying image retention notification.
For monitors with poor or no srgb modes i have used this neat clamp tool i found on github but i think in a recent update, nvidia dprecated the api allowing for this to be doable, either nvidia plans on adding support for srgb clamping in the control panel or they broke the api and don't care to fix it
In canada only Best buy is selling the asus version of this oled and I wanted to see text clarity. They had a demo running, so after some setup, launch a web browser and boy was it bad. even the windows 11 time was hard to read on the blue background. The sale person was trying to indicate a bad Nvivda setup. To my eyes it looked blurry (for black text on a white background), but text on different coloured background oh boy is got really bad... If you are planning to buy any of this oleds get them to show you text-clarity.. Not just black on white but with different colours...
After all of these OLED monitor reviews it seems the only two competitors on the market are the LG WOLED variants and the QD OLED variants, and it would appear the QD OLED is the better option providing the brightest and most vibrant picture with the best HDR performance. I had no idea that when I bought my Alienware AW3423DW that I was getting the cream of the crop of OLED monitors. It was the first, and apparently still the best, aside from it's little brother, the DWF variant. Also, just found out that the washed out look in Windows 10 after enabling HDR is a brightness/contrast issue rather than a saturation issue. After manually setting the brightness/contrast settings in the AMD software and upping the contrast in the monitor settings it looks even better now, something I thought wasn't even possible. Now the image is just mind blowing how black the blacks are and the color pops like nothing I've ever seen with the brightest of highlights. Truly something to behold. Can't believe I was missing out on even better image quality. I genuinely thought I was seeing the best this monitor offered, and I was already really impressed. Boy was I wrong, lol!
Yeh man qd oled is the best. If ur still looking for an upgrade the s95c blows everything else to pieces, just depends if you can allow a 55' and move further back
@@Patchow HDMI 2.1 doesn't really matter since it has display port. The only thing I have it hooked to is my PC and display port is all I use. HDMI 2.1 is really for console gaming purposes as display port fulfills pretty much all PC gamer's needs. This monitor is not a good choice for console gamers since it's in an ultra-wide screen format which they don't support.
in Oz its 1899 and Asus is 1799 ( PCGC) but I got the LG for 1477 for Harvey Norman ..$320 is just to big an advantage to knock back ..ohwell, the 4090 needs something to make it work :-)
Prices are already starting to come down a bit, the LG 27GR95QE is €829,- over here (in the Netherlands). That ASUS has the nicest design in my opinion, but the price is almost 400 euro's higher over here.
Word up! Only a blind man thinks matte is preferable. I don’t care what their lighting situation is. I have 20wmgx2 from 2006 or a qnix 2710 that look better than any matte finish panel.
just from seeing the preview you showed of the monitor, as in the scenes, I think it looks less natural than the other. the paint scene at the begging for example
@Pisscan why do i need hdmi 2.1, when my PC, I am already getting 240Hz @ 1440p over dp 1.4, why on earth would you need more bandwidth if the max the monitor can do is already capable with dp 1.4? You make no sense?
The white sub pixel is actually a blessing, I work with these displays and let me tell you that the G3 with MLA is MUCH better than QD OLED. Instead of whites looking blue or grey the color is actually white. QD OLED is rubbish,
More OLED options are always welcome but competition doesn't seem to drop the price at all lol Would be really interested to see if the Lenovo Y27qf-30, HP Omen 27qs or Asus VG27AQML1A are better than the Acer XV272U W2 given all of them appear to use the same BOE ME270QHM-NF1 panel. Comparison to MSI G274QPX with presumably an LG panel (given advertised 98% P3) would also be nice since they all exist at the sub-400 price range.
This is not competition yet. This is the first product of its kind (acer, asus lg all have the same panel, so it is NOT competition. Its cost of the panel plus costs of changes plus margins Competition is what will happen when QD oleds are in non ultra wide curved formats).
@@lrmcatspaw1 I'm aware of LG display being the panel manufacturer but it's treated as a separate entity from LG the monitor brand meaning competing monitors do generally make prices come down. LGD also has a monopoly on curved IPS and monitors with those have also dropped significantly over time. On the OLED panel side the only real competitors rn are LGD & Samsung Display but they're in different form factors. Still in R&D would be CSOT. JOLED already had RGB stripe OLEDs but they've gone bankrupt and shut down factories, looking for a buyer for IP.
There is no competition. All these 240hz OLED panels are produced by LG and they set the price. We can only hope for Samsung to start producing 16:9 QD-OLED soon.
Yeah, as others mentioned, its early adopt stage with very little competition. We need more manufacturers to start competing in this category. Hopefuly other LCD panel manufacturers can transition into OLED based technology as well.
@yiims yes the competition has ALREADY dropped the price. The LG monitor is regularly below 1000 USD after the ASUS model launched. Lower brightness and the non 3rd party discount from LG has forced their hand to be competitive. Also, it has only been a few months
If people are still consider purchasing, I just want to put this out there. Every 4 hours, this monitor will pop up a warning message to perform an image retention protection. Essentially it shuts the monitor down or go blank for 5 minutes. It can get in the way of your game/productivity. It does go away automatically after 10 seconds, but it sure as heck annoying. I disagree with the HDR assessment in this video, I did turn on HDR both on the monitor and Windows built-in HDR feature, but the colors don't look right at all. I tried using the HDR calibration in Windows Store, but that didn't help much either. I then connected an Apple iPad to this and its HDR looks wonky too. Maybe I'm not advanced enough to figure out how to configure it... maybe you guys can cover that in a future video? *UPDATE Oct 2023: Updated firmware has allowed the option to disable the image retention protection warning message! YAY! Still can't figure out the HDR though.
Did latest Firmwares boost up the SDR brightness and way to disable or limit the aggressive ABL? If you updated to latest firmware, also can you see any different?
Hi Mr Tim, as always you are the goat of gaming monitor reviewer 🔥🔥.. sorry for my out of context questions, is it worth it to buy LG 27850 right now for my xbox series x? Thank you Mr Tim.. 🙏
Dough, the company behind the Eve Spectrum, is currently working on a monitor with this same panel that also has glossy glass. Are there any plans to review that as well when it eventually comes out?
@@Patchow when I initially (blindly and stupidly) ordered mine, they promised shipping would begin in July-August. I believe the latest update today is mid to late September. Now at the time of ordering I was expecting a glossy finish panel, since then they partnered with Corning Glass to add glass to the monitor. Apparently it having glass is a big deal because according to them only Apple and Microsoft sell displays with glossy finish glass. So it that worth the delay? I can’t give a straight answer because on one hand it’s an added feature that I did not originally pay for or expect to have. On the other I placed an order from a company who is known to not be the quickest getting out products, and should have expected a wait longer than what is currently expected.
I also bought this monitor lately, i think it can't show different colour hues smoothly, as if the 10bit colour depth cant display changes in hues/shades smoothly. As a result, the different shades/ hues look like ripples on the screen each time the picture hue go from dim to bright. For example in the netflix 'the pope's exorcist', the intro green background scene of the 'sony picture' show much distortion and ripples. The next scene which go from dim lighting to bright also show much ripples.
Is there a reason Rtings and Bench House are reporting excessive amounts of input lag up to 20ms at 60hz with the Acer and you not only aren't, but you are finding respectively the same low input lag results across all WOLED 1440 240hz 27 inch monitors?
Yes that is good for customers but that will lead Corsair to loss, since there is no AMOLED that will not get burn-in in 3 year period that is if being heavily used...
@@NedimTabakovic doubt it. First it's not an AMOLED but WOLED panel. Second, most people will at least keep all the anti-burn in measures ON. Also it's a new panel with MLA technology that is specifically there to prevent burn-in or achieve higher brightness. Corsair is limiting the brightness quite low. I'm not saying it will not have burn-in with heavy use, but then again, only a very small percentage of owners will fall into the "heavy use" category. It's way to soon to draw any conclusions about burn-in on MLA panels after 3 years when the tech isn't even out for 2 years.
@@NedimTabakovic If TVs are anything to go by, I am not worried.. My friend has a 10 year old OLED TV, took good care of it, and it shows zero burn-in issues. As a buyer of the Corsair model, I feel a bit more "secure" than with other brands but at the same time, I think that burn-in issues seem to be really over-estimated. We will see. Also, the brightness is not really a problem, unless you have the thing like in direct sunlight. Quite the opposite, I really like the auto-dimming compensation for all-white screens, at least it doesn't explode my retinas when I open a website. Really the only issue I've had with the Corsair model is occasional flicker with GSync in like 1 or 2 games, but that is easily corrected by just turning off Gsync for those games and I suspect a fix will come in time with firmware updates.
@@C0BEX Doubt it or not that doesn´t change reality of things. And actual OG OLED was used in similar manner as old calculators but in different colors, and it had predefined characters, then it was introduced ActiveMatrix-OLED actual technology used for true displays that all use today. Being WRGB subpixel array PENTILE or RGB doesn't mean it is something different. And "new" QuantumDot-OLED (also AMOLED) is layer used to boost colors similar to KSF phosphorus... New addition is MicroLensArray, oversimplified something like reverse antiglare coating with more precise "bumps"-lenses per pixel that should help output more perceived brightness from panel and this can allow usage of lower actual paned brightness to have equal level of brightness...but maybe they count people will be stressed about burn-in and they will baby the monitor in that case it could last longer then 2 years...
@@Scorpius165 200 nits is highly unlikely to explode someone's retinas, but your pupil should open up completely to let all that scorching 200 nits inside You should not be concerned since you are covered with warranty, just enjoy it man game on...
Any news of Windows 11 possibly improving on OLED text clarity? I am fairly hopeful on Microsoft working on this, given how many “non mainstream” features they are adding already.
They have touched on this, possibly in a Q&A video. Basically, no one uses the standard Microsoft has implemented, so it will take some effort to do that.
and what do you do with that ? only the windows stuff will benefit from it ....not even the browser takes the windows cleartype fully... most apps and games totally ignore it. So yea ...those windows icons will have some nice text under them ...thats it.
Can you guys review the AOC Agon Pro AG274QZM? It seems to be the only 240Hz monitor I've been able to find that's an actual released product that has the HDMI 2.1 ports capable of the full 1440p at 240Hz...
Is there any news about it's big brother? I've been waiting for it's presentation for almost a year now and there is zero info about it except it was supposed to release Q4 2024.
Still waiting for 24" 1440p240 glossy oled. Although, I would need to significantly change my behavior regarding usage because I would burn that thing in really fast. In fact maybe I should have it on an arm and just drop it in front of my primary monitor for gaming and content watching.
@@svn5994 24" is the PERFECT size for a gaming display and 1440p is the perfect resolution. The combination is perfect match. It provides similar PPI (pixels per inch > resolution) to 4k at 32 inches without being a literal TV on a desk. It's far easier to drive than 4k so you can either run a cheaper GPU or go 80 class and get a high refresh experience. To get a 1440p at anything larger than 24" is basically the same quality as having gotten a normal sized 1080p monitor and putting it closer to your face.
the only thing stopping me from buying an OLED screen is the terrible desktop use. I need my pc (in extension my monitor) to be able to game AND be used for stuff like browsing, coding or doing uni stuff or even work from home. Id love to see more MINILED or so reviews, where the desktop problem is not as apparent due to the pixel layout, and the HDR performance still holds up
I've had the Asus for about a month, and I've already gotten used to the pixel layout. It's something I was definitely afraid of going into it, and even after owning it for about a week, I was thinking of returning it. But after a month of steady use, my eyes have adjusted. I found that with ClearType off, the fringing was less apparent. I only really ever notice it on bold black text on white backgrounds.
the LG is still the best option imo. It's their panel, + it's the cheapest at £930 with LGs own 7% discount (that you can get for free), & a better warranty than the Asus version + it has HDMI 2.1
Eh, I still think glossy even looks better in direct lighting. That grainy look bothers me far too much. Plus it makes the entire image looked washed out and hazy. At work I have a far lower quality laptop than at my home, yet I like the screen more at work just because it's glossy. It's just so much clearer. I don't understand why anyone likes matte as the glare is still there, just now it covers a bigger area washing out more of the screen. And I disagree, I think matte still looks far worse in the dark. It still has that compressed contrast look of being matte and the grain is honestly more prevalent then.
hey can you make a list of the cheapest 100% SRGB/whatever colour space is available out there? it doesnt have to be 1k Hz, just a 60Hz for work or anything like this. much appreciated.
Hey there, there is a new budget monitor in europe thats one of the cheapest ones and the specs dont even look that bad. Its the KOORUI 27E6QC . Can you guys maybe review it? Its the Cheapest right now and i would be really interested how it performs. :) and btw the monitor is 1440p 144hz and only costs 180€ and on prime day it was like 150€ so really cheap 😄
Hi Tim, I do need some advice about watching 1080p videos on 1440p monitors that no one is talking about ! Tried some high-spec 1440p models but all of them were blurry, shockingly worse than 1080p native monitors while playing 1080p videos. Then I unfortunately learned that the scaler won't be able to precisely transpose the 1080p image onto the 1440p screen. Meaning, blur and other visual artifacts make the video look substantially worse than 1080p native monitors and it's not related with bitrate or compression etc. Mainly watching 1080p shows, movies (not streaming on youtube/Netflix etc) and have a huge archive... Tried 4K monitors/TVs with 1080p videos and they look just fine, equal to 1080p native ! 4K is exactly four times 1080p resolution; this means that for every pixel in 1080p, there are four pixels in 2160p, so you just make each pixel four times bigger. Looks exactly like a 1080p display. I want to upgrade to 2K for games, web & work but "to watch 1080p videos blurry with artifacts" is holding me back. 4K is hard to drive and it's expensive but definitely clearer than 1440p ! - Should I skip 1440p & invest in 4K monitors ? Can you do a video about the elephant in the room ?
@@ven_gnc Nope, I got a 1440p monitor and accepted the little blur of 1080p. Price/Performance of 1440p monitors are at the peak now. Invested in a 49", 5120x1440 @ 165hz PHILIPS 498P9Z SuperUltraWide monitor for the price of a decent 4K standart one and I'm very happy with that Behemoth! 👌 - Except the 1080p issues on 1440p
@Boorock70 Woahh congrats on the monitor xD You probably made the right move. I got my PC setup around a year ago, and decided to go with a 1080p 240hz monitor instead of 1440p 144hz. I'm satisfied and definitely prefer the higher refresh rate. Although I'm currently craving for an OLED haha.
These monitors are selling for hundreds $$$$ more than they should tbh. While offering a great gaming hdr performance…..the price of this Oled tech is waaaay too high for a decade old tech imo. We need to see actual competition between manufacturers and not just pricing against each other.
As a programmer I wonder how "programmer text color themes" would look like on OLED monitors i.e. in my case dark mode grey background with some half muted text colours. Most IDE's has these color themes that are more pleasant for the eyes and used for the purpose to highlight the language syntax, I wonder how well OLED monitors performs in this use case. If we would use my case as an example the background grey color is around 10-15% Value and most text colors are "half muted" (50-80% for both Saturation and Value), white colour tops at around 80%.
Hello fellow programmer! It looks fantastic, with a few limitations if you want to avoid burn-in: 1. Can't maximize windows, have to use floating windows and move them around once in a while. 2. Have to disable window snapping 3. Have to auto-hide taskbar 4. Have to auto-hide menu bar (on MacOS) All in all, it is probably better to wait for now. Burn-in will not be fixed for the OCD amongus, but monitors will get bigger and denser.
I paid £200 2 months ago for a brand-new Acer VG27Upiix 1440p Free sync IPS monitor. For the money, I am more than happy with its overall performance at that price. Would have to double that price to get marginal upgrade in screen performance. The stand was shit, but I was mounting it on a monitor arm anyway, so that did not matter to me. 27 Inch HDR 144Hz Vrr was good enough for my needs.
Just because it says HDR on the box doesn't mean its true HDR experience. It needs to be at least HDR 1000 certified to offer any real kind of HDR experience. I would recommend just turning the HDR off in the settings and you will get a much better experience out of that monitor. Its actually not a small difference between high end monitors and low end monitors but thats not a bad monitor at all!
I was torn between a decent IPS and the Corsair model, and I got the Corsair OLED at 15% off thanks to company discount. At that price (~$800) and after 2 months of use, it's a no-brainer imho. I could never ever go back to an IPS, even at half the price. It's debatable whether or not it's "worth" the price hike, that depends on personal needs / tastem but as for the "marginal" screen performance upgrade, let me tell you that it's an absolute game changer, and anyone saying it's not is either in denial or needs eyesight checked. There is simply nothing comparable for content consumption.
@@BrentCox2B Well for its price its good enough for my situation. Also have to disagree about using HDR on this Monitor. Though it may not be as good as a HDR1000 certified one. After using HDR in a few games they look way better than in SDR so I use HDR when its beneficial visually on a per game basis. Might splash out one day but buying slightly older spec versions for less than a 1/4 of the price is better than staying on my basic SDR 1080p monitor and the visual upgrade is night and day . Hence, why i am happy enough with what i got.
@CameraObscure Hey if its working great for you and you are happy with it, thats what is important. You dont need an RTX 4090 and a 1000 dollar monitor to have fun playing games!
Does this matt coating is the same heavy like the LG? Or Acer does use their own matt coating? I remember acer monitors had matt coating, but it was very nice ballanced. That grain wasn't that much noticed like at LG monitors.
How hard is it to get HDMI 2.1 and a glossy finish? If any of these companies wanted to win over the current market they would do these things. With no burn in warranty aswell, I see no reason to buy this over other models.
@@haggisman0812if you do get a monitor I’d recommend the lg 27” Oled model. It supports hdmi 2.1 and has the best deals out of any model. I often see deals on this monitor recently at Best Buy for 850 bucks.
It's a pity you forgot to show the gamma/EOTF tracking in the sRGB emulation mode! That's what could make this monitor or break it for me. Is there any way to see that?
why are companys refusing to implement hdmi 2.1?, i know that for consoles 1440p 120hz doesnt need the banwitch but as far as i know at least the ps5 needs 2.1 for ceetain feautres like vrr? and at this point are they just being cheap not using dp 2.0?
Probably because they expect people to only use HDMI for laptops and consoles, and if you have a laptop trying to drive 240Hz, they'll get a lot of complaints from less tech savvy people whose machines aren't strong enough, and consoles aren't strong enough to drive those frame rates either. I honestly don't understand the complaints about HDMI. None of the stuff you'd hook up with HDMI will run 240hz.
Had this monitor for a week after it suddenly became available on Newegg US. In the end, it wasn’t worth the price when the ASUS variant has a way better implementation of the panel. I couldn’t wrap my head around the aggressive ABL with HDR on it’s shipped firmware. Also, the build quality of this monitor is what you’d expect out of a $100-$200 product. Maybe some firmware update will help out the experience in the future, but for now it’s safe to say just go with either the LG or ASUS.
I've tried out all of them so far, and to me, the LG is the best bet. The reason being, the Asus's HDR colors are still very jacked up after their latest firmware update. The LG looked fine, IMO, and the brightness wasn't that much of a concern as long as you don't have extreme amounts of sunlight in your room.
@@trippalhealicks for me, I prefer a brighter monitor, regardless of room setting, which is why I got the ASUS.
@@alphapapa4446 Makes sense! It's definitely the brightest of the bunch. The only OLED I've tested that was brighter was the Alienware AW3423DWF, but it's an ultrawide which isn't for everyone.
The LG monitor is just fine.. you don't need blinding brightness lol..
@@matthewrezuke8130 that’s very subjective. It’s almost like personal preference is a thing
Thanks for testing all of these monitors!
All Acer monitors have that issue where you manually have to switch to HDR every time in the OSD settings. Acers monitor firmware has a lot of these needless annoyances for no reason, its just mind boggling, what were those developers thinking?
Yep, I am waiting for a different Panel with the same specs. I have an Oled TV LG C2 and it's nice but it hasn't made me want to run out and get an OLED Monitor. My M27qx is awesome just a little IPS glow but its easy on the eyes and has made me a fan of the high refresh rate.
Yea these crazy hdr monitors and oled monitors are gonna be worth it in 5-10 years when prices come down by a lot
Almost got the acer but then after a little research this weekend I saw it was the least bright of the bunch and decided to pull the trigger on the Asus!
LG reigns supreme
Tim can also check and review the ktc mini led options 1440 and 4k with their new firmware update
I picked up the LG when it first dropped to $900USD during the May/June price dip, after rebounding, it's now available for $850USD in some places today.
I prefer matte for monitors or otherwise close viewing distance. I have a glossy laptop, which was not my choice, and the glossy reflections are terribly distracting.
My TV is glossy, and I feel it is fine at a comfortable couch viewing distance for content.
Hi there may get this for Christmas bit would you buy again or for another make
@@darrendavies1102 I'm very pleased with the LG model, Asus was off the table due to prior dissatisfaction with customer service. Corsair and Acer had not launched yet. I was so impressed with the LG monitor I bought an LG C2 on prime day to replace my aging plasma. Currently the monitor sits side by side an IPS display, which makes the black levels on the IPS look sad. HDR is cool to experience, watching a youtube video doesn't convey it any justice. Both the monitor and TV are plenty bright, I think any brighter would feel too intense, though I have no side by side comparison to experience. I don't think I could justify buying a 2nd oled monitor to outright replace my secondary display at the current price. The xeneon flex might have been interesting if the pixel pitch were not so bad, and its double the price, I'm sort of interested in curved screen from time to time, hopefully it's a concept that lives on.
It looks great, simple, sleek design, with no unnecessary, unseen "gamery" designs and lights on the back, I can't stress this enough, no one is looking at the back of the monitor, it should be as bland and cheap as possible no matter the price point of the product
I tried multiple 27" oleds and the massive 45" oled from LG monitor, and all of them were a no-go on the text. So I got a 42" C2 and the 4k really helps with text.
What was wrong with 27" OLEDs?
ppi is similar about 108 on both.
Buys a sub 90 PPI monitor and complains about text clarity. The C2 and 27" have the same PPI. 😂
the lack of HDR auto-switch is a huge no in my book...
even my ~330€ LG 27GP850-B has automatic HDR enabling & disabling along with windows or games
(e.g. as software enables HDR, monitor switches by itself too)
I don't know, man, seems like a very minor annoyance to me...
The fact that they didn’t learn from other companies doing 2.0 when they are the latest to release the same damn monitor is astonishing. All they would have to do was steal all the other monitor’s best traits and they would’ve made more profit than any of them plus win monitor of the year.
whoever makes 32-inch 4k qled not curved monitor will be KING!
Oh damn, kvm switch is pretty killer if you need it considering how expensive and hard to find high end stand alone KVM switches are. I have so much issues with kvm when shuffling my home work setup and my personal machine.
You mentioned that strobing isnt compatible with OLEDS, but I use the LGC1 strobing option to increase motion clarity to an equivalent of 313 fps.
I'm still gutted when they dropped 120hz support since 2 series
so for OLEDs its not "strobing" because there is no backlight to "strobe" its called BFI or "black frame insertion" where the screen flashes a black screen after every frame. it achieves basically the same thing, but it darkens the brightness if the screen overall. it also gives the "soap opera effect". because of the way it works, i would guess that higher FPS would mean even darker picture overall which is already a weakness of OLED in the first place
@absolutelysobeast You explained how OLEDs strobed while claiming they don't. It's just that the pixels are self emissivity on oleds, so the strobe comes from the pixels themselves, which is fantastic because that means zero crosstalk.
Also, if the refresh rate is high enough to transition from having a visible strobing effect to just looking dimmer, a higher refresh rate won't affect its brightness. That comes from the percentage of the refresh allocated to pixels being on vs off. In this way, it can become a tradeoff between brightness and motion clarity; not through refresh rate itself.
Also, the soap opera effect typically refers to the experience of the interpolation feature on many tvs today, which often gives mixed framerate effect which is off putting to some, but I will happily get any motion clarity and smoothness where I can.
I didn't believe all the negative reviews around these panels being too dim. Picked up the LG model as it was recently on sale and I was honestly shocked how bad it is. Easiest return ever.
Yeah this first gen doesn't seem to be worth getting for a variety of reasons
That's subjective to your tolerance and room light. I'm using the Xeneon 27 OLED in SDR and ABL off and, while I wish it was a little brighter, it's perfectly fine for me. With ABL off it looks great but I hate the brightness fluctuation when using Windows. I'm the kind of guy who use IPS panels at 30/40% brightness though.
Yep, most people think brightness wouldn't be a big issue since they don't use their IPS monitors at high brightness, but you don't really get the saturation and contrast that OLED can deliver, without high brightness. HDR requires around 300 nits minimum. Once eyes adjust to the higher brightness, it all makes sense and people realize the necessity for that increased brightness, even if their room isn't bright.
@@fastica"fine."
Copium in full effect.
For more context I've been using a LG C2 42" for about 9 months as my primary display. I've used a service remote to turn off TPC and GSR so it's much brighter than stock. The low brightness on the 27gr95qe made the colors look washed out and just off putting. I think pairing the lower brightness with a matte screen makes it worse. If you're coming from using a traditional style monitor at low brightness it'll probably look somewhat normal. I've also tried the AW3423DWF and it was much much better. If the text clarity wasn't so bad I would have kept it. I'm a developer so text clarity is moderately important.
Tim my man, your caution about OLED burn in helped me decide to go with the Alienware AW3821DW over the AW3423DWF. Chose the Nano IPS so I can work and not worry about burn in (I saw your video describing the faint line down the middle of your AW3421DW screen & that was enough for me hehe...). Also I'll be in a fairly bright room while working so IPS should work better there too, and no glare off the screen. I really wanted that OLED but from what I've seen in reviews Nano IPS sounds like a decent compromise for both work and gaming (even if the HDR isn't good lol...). This 3840x1600p screen is going to be sweet though for "work work" and of course for my side job of video editing timelines, pod casting... etc... etc... I'll get it next week and can't wait.
For my kids, I went with 1440p 165hz VA panels, again, burn in concerns and they're terrible for turning off their screen savers and leaving their PCs sitting stagnant for hours. Not to mention they do hours of schoolwork etc... just too much static stuff on their screens all the time and I don't want to risk the burn in there either.
Anyway, as must as I'd have loved that OLED HDR experience, I'll give the tech a few more years to sort out burn in and the like.
the future will come!
so you’re waiting for micro led then
Would love to see you guys review more miniLED monitors.
Then pay up piggy.
with the downsides of lcd, id bite the bullet and go for an oled. you still have to spend a fair bit of money to get a okay monitor with not terrible miniled performance
@@sakracliche with the downsides of OLED, I'd bite the bullet and go for a miniLED.
@@DrakonR blooming and inherently bad dark levels. noticeably slow response times. poor viewing angles. pricey for what they offer.
oled doesn't get as bright as miniled can, but otherwise it's a package with advantages of tn, ips and va taken to another level.
burn in hasn't been a problem for those who aren't careless, if you take at least a bit of care of your screen, it will look brand new for years
@@sakracliche you can't BS me. I own an LG C1, X95K 85", a neo g8, and I've tried all of the OLED monitors.
miniLED is a much better experience overall. I'm not saying OLED is bad, but the hype is just hype and there's something to be said about great miniLED displays.
I really want a 240Hz OLED…but I realize I’d rather wait until the next generation of panels where they hopefully incorporate ULMB2 (aka black frame insertion) and up the refresh rate to 360 or even 480. 480 with BFI would be INCREDIBLE.
Wtf do tou even need 480hz for? You’re not gonna be better at fps playing at 480hz lmaoo😂
The ASUS version does this now for an effective 1000hz+. This guy @nxxiv436 sounds like a broken record, I bet he said the same thing when 144hz came out. Or maybe he was too young lmaooooooo😂😂😂😂
@@atomiccelery6798Well, beyond 240hz refresh rate is imperceptible to the eye unless it's on a 200" screen from 10 feet away. As much as anyone tried to deny it. You gain micro seconds in response time, that's about it.
@@OC.TINYYY Well, actually, WRONG!
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@@OC.TINYYYmotion clarity increase is perceptible beyond 240 hz yes there are diminishing returns but there are also still big gains in motion clarity… for example when 480 hz oled comes out it will have 2 Ms persistence blur which will be double what crts used to have but it will look amazing and will be much better than the current models and brightness will improve over time especially once pholed tech comes.
hey, update for this monitor has just droped on acer support page for it! would love to see your comments on it! seems to be you can turn off ABL and annoying image retention notification.
A little bit disappointed from this monitor,but my corsair xeneon oled should arrive today and I got it for only "900€" on Amazon.
Thx 4 the video
Yeh my one is arriving some time this week, only reason I picked the corsair was the burn in warranty.
@@zeogamingmc same
And it looks good
I was wondering if there's a point to buying a colorimeter
Would one make a measurable difference in content consumption?
the answer is probably not, unless your monitor is super bad in which case just buying a new monitor would be better
I'm just gonna wait for the upcoming Blurbuster tuned OLED 240hz monitor, it's gonna be actually good.
For monitors with poor or no srgb modes i have used this neat clamp tool i found on github but i think in a recent update, nvidia dprecated the api allowing for this to be doable, either nvidia plans on adding support for srgb clamping in the control panel or they broke the api and don't care to fix it
Are you saying that novideo_srgb no longer works?! What the hell, man, why did they do it...
since I personally have to use HDMI, the 2.0 ports on this model instantly disqualify it for me.
Yeah I’d accept it on a 400€ monitor, not this
In canada only Best buy is selling the asus version of this oled and I wanted to see text clarity. They had a demo running, so after some setup, launch a web browser and boy was it bad. even the windows 11 time was hard to read on the blue background. The sale person was trying to indicate a bad Nvivda setup. To my eyes it looked blurry (for black text on a white background), but text on different coloured background oh boy is got really bad... If you are planning to buy any of this oleds get them to show you text-clarity.. Not just black on white but with different colours...
You actually have a brain 🫡
After all of these OLED monitor reviews it seems the only two competitors on the market are the LG WOLED variants and the QD OLED variants, and it would appear the QD OLED is the better option providing the brightest and most vibrant picture with the best HDR performance. I had no idea that when I bought my Alienware AW3423DW that I was getting the cream of the crop of OLED monitors. It was the first, and apparently still the best, aside from it's little brother, the DWF variant. Also, just found out that the washed out look in Windows 10 after enabling HDR is a brightness/contrast issue rather than a saturation issue. After manually setting the brightness/contrast settings in the AMD software and upping the contrast in the monitor settings it looks even better now, something I thought wasn't even possible. Now the image is just mind blowing how black the blacks are and the color pops like nothing I've ever seen with the brightest of highlights. Truly something to behold. Can't believe I was missing out on even better image quality. I genuinely thought I was seeing the best this monitor offered, and I was already really impressed. Boy was I wrong, lol!
Yeh man qd oled is the best. If ur still looking for an upgrade the s95c blows everything else to pieces, just depends if you can allow a 55' and move further back
Looks like they added some nice HDR features in Win 11. I want the 34” QD little brother you mentioned for $900 it seems like the deal.
Isn’t it missing HDMI2.1 though?
@@Patchow HDMI 2.1 doesn't really matter since it has display port. The only thing I have it hooked to is my PC and display port is all I use. HDMI 2.1 is really for console gaming purposes as display port fulfills pretty much all PC gamer's needs. This monitor is not a good choice for console gamers since it's in an ultra-wide screen format which they don't support.
in Oz its 1899 and Asus is 1799 ( PCGC) but I got the LG for 1477 for Harvey Norman ..$320 is just to big an advantage to knock back ..ohwell, the 4090 needs something to make it work :-)
Prices are already starting to come down a bit, the LG 27GR95QE is €829,- over here (in the Netherlands). That ASUS has the nicest design in my opinion, but the price is almost 400 euro's higher over here.
I'd still *_LOVE_* to know why the LG 27GR95QE has such a strange problem with overshoot. The problem isn't present on *_ANY other OLED._*
This is the beta, the next version, or two, will fix it 💀
A big company needs to take glossy oled gaming monitors seriously
Word up! Only a blind man thinks matte is preferable. I don’t care what their lighting situation is.
I have 20wmgx2 from 2006 or a qnix 2710 that look better than any matte finish panel.
just from seeing the preview you showed of the monitor, as in the scenes, I think it looks less natural than the other. the paint scene at the begging for example
Someday we'll have OLED monitors without all these compromises. Me personally? I'm waiting for mini-LED ultrawides in a 34 inch form factor :(
Woled? Nopes... I am just happy with my qd-oled ultrawide hopefully in a couple of years I can upgrade to a 4k 240hz
would love to see reviews of the dell series like the dell g3223q
Thanks for the review!
So glad I did not go with the X27U over the Asus version.
You bought one of these panels without dp2.0 or hdmi2.1.. interesting 💀
@Pisscan why do i need hdmi 2.1, when my PC, I am already getting 240Hz @ 1440p over dp 1.4, why on earth would you need more bandwidth if the max the monitor can do is already capable with dp 1.4?
You make no sense?
@@noelnarayan6135 hdr 4:4:4? 🤡
HDMI 2.0 has no business existing in 2023
The white sub pixel is actually a blessing, I work with these displays and let me tell you that the G3 with MLA is MUCH better than QD OLED. Instead of whites looking blue or grey the color is actually white. QD OLED is rubbish,
Not true, why you always lying?
More OLED options are always welcome but competition doesn't seem to drop the price at all lol
Would be really interested to see if the Lenovo Y27qf-30, HP Omen 27qs or Asus VG27AQML1A are better than the Acer XV272U W2 given all of them appear to use the same BOE ME270QHM-NF1 panel. Comparison to MSI G274QPX with presumably an LG panel (given advertised 98% P3) would also be nice since they all exist at the sub-400 price range.
This is not competition yet.
This is the first product of its kind (acer, asus lg all have the same panel, so it is NOT competition. Its cost of the panel plus costs of changes plus margins Competition is what will happen when QD oleds are in non ultra wide curved formats).
@@lrmcatspaw1 I'm aware of LG display being the panel manufacturer but it's treated as a separate entity from LG the monitor brand meaning competing monitors do generally make prices come down. LGD also has a monopoly on curved IPS and monitors with those have also dropped significantly over time.
On the OLED panel side the only real competitors rn are LGD & Samsung Display but they're in different form factors. Still in R&D would be CSOT. JOLED already had RGB stripe OLEDs but they've gone bankrupt and shut down factories, looking for a buyer for IP.
There is no competition. All these 240hz OLED panels are produced by LG and they set the price. We can only hope for Samsung to start producing 16:9 QD-OLED soon.
Yeah, as others mentioned, its early adopt stage with very little competition. We need more manufacturers to start competing in this category.
Hopefuly other LCD panel manufacturers can transition into OLED based technology as well.
@yiims yes the competition has ALREADY dropped the price. The LG monitor is regularly below 1000 USD after the ASUS model launched. Lower brightness and the non 3rd party discount from LG has forced their hand to be competitive. Also, it has only been a few months
If people are still consider purchasing, I just want to put this out there. Every 4 hours, this monitor will pop up a warning message to perform an image retention protection. Essentially it shuts the monitor down or go blank for 5 minutes. It can get in the way of your game/productivity. It does go away automatically after 10 seconds, but it sure as heck annoying. I disagree with the HDR assessment in this video, I did turn on HDR both on the monitor and Windows built-in HDR feature, but the colors don't look right at all. I tried using the HDR calibration in Windows Store, but that didn't help much either. I then connected an Apple iPad to this and its HDR looks wonky too. Maybe I'm not advanced enough to figure out how to configure it... maybe you guys can cover that in a future video?
*UPDATE Oct 2023: Updated firmware has allowed the option to disable the image retention protection warning message! YAY! Still can't figure out the HDR though.
Did latest Firmwares boost up the SDR brightness and way to disable or limit the aggressive ABL? If you updated to latest firmware, also can you see any different?
I didn't notice difference in the SDR brightness. I don't see an option to disable the ABL unfortunately.@@otto5423
Hey, good Video! Will you review the Alienware AW2723DF as well?
AU Optronics and INNOLUX need to get oled market asap. We need more variations
Why? LG is the king of OLED, they're proven workhorses at this point
Will you be reviewing the ViewSonic xg2431? I just bought one and it's fantastic
Sees the price
Me: nah thanks 👍
I really like ur detailed Monitor reviews, could u review the new asus tuf vg27aqml1a next, i would love to see it
With all of the drawbacks and no warranty coverage for burn-in this monitor should be priced at $799.99 US to be compelling.
Oled 4k 32 inch with 165hz is what I am waiting for.
Hi Mr Tim, as always you are the goat of gaming monitor reviewer 🔥🔥.. sorry for my out of context questions, is it worth it to buy LG 27850 right now for my xbox series x? Thank you Mr Tim.. 🙏
What's with 2023 gaming monitors not including HDMI 2.1? Surely it can't be that expensive to include something that came standard with 2020 OLED TVs.
Dough, the company behind the Eve Spectrum, is currently working on a monitor with this same panel that also has glossy glass. Are there any plans to review that as well when it eventually comes out?
Have Eve improved their delivery promises?
I waited 6 months for a mouse pad before I gave up and cancelled the order.
@@Patchow when I initially (blindly and stupidly) ordered mine, they promised shipping would begin in July-August. I believe the latest update today is mid to late September. Now at the time of ordering I was expecting a glossy finish panel, since then they partnered with Corning Glass to add glass to the monitor. Apparently it having glass is a big deal because according to them only Apple and Microsoft sell displays with glossy finish glass. So it that worth the delay? I can’t give a straight answer because on one hand it’s an added feature that I did not originally pay for or expect to have. On the other I placed an order from a company who is known to not be the quickest getting out products, and should have expected a wait longer than what is currently expected.
i want a 27 inch OLED but i dont want a matte finish and i want it to be QD-OLED
Thanks for the video. Can you review the Oled G9 please? 🙂 Would like to know the best accurate picture settings - thanks!
I also bought this monitor lately, i think it can't show different colour hues smoothly, as if the 10bit colour depth cant display changes in hues/shades smoothly. As a result, the different shades/ hues look like ripples on the screen each time the picture hue go from dim to bright. For example in the netflix 'the pope's exorcist', the intro green background scene of the 'sony picture' show much distortion and ripples. The next scene which go from dim lighting to bright also show much ripples.
maybe you should a review on the hp omen 27qs since i havent seen anyone review it yet and it seems good
Why did the Samsung Odyssey G7 Input lag measurment increase from 4.9 (in your review video) to 7.8? Seems like you've added more processing lag now?
Maybe Samsung firmware update messed something up.
PG42UQ Firmware V040 out!! Supposed to improve HDR.
Can you please revisit this monitor for HDR performance??
Tim, have you reached out to Gigabyte regarding the M27Q X and it's disappearance?
Hope the next gen WRGB monitor panels will fix the dirty screen effect on gray backgrounds
I wouldn't get your hopes up. I have never seen an OLED that didn't have this issue.
@@jonRock i quess got super lucky with my 55 cx oled
@@Takashita_Sukakoki yeah probably
@@jonRock the bigger oleds seem to avoid the vertical banding on gray background
Regarding oversaturation without SRGB mode.... have you tested Windows 11's "Auto Color Management" ? Supposedly it deals with that issue.
Is there a reason Rtings and Bench House are reporting excessive amounts of input lag up to 20ms at 60hz with the Acer and you not only aren't, but you are finding respectively the same low input lag results across all WOLED 1440 240hz 27 inch monitors?
The corsair model is the one to go for imo purely because of the screen burn coverage, even if it is slightly worse than its competitors.
Yes that is good for customers but that will lead Corsair to loss, since there is no AMOLED that will not get burn-in in 3 year period that is if being heavily used...
@@NedimTabakovic doubt it. First it's not an AMOLED but WOLED panel. Second, most people will at least keep all the anti-burn in measures ON. Also it's a new panel with MLA technology that is specifically there to prevent burn-in or achieve higher brightness. Corsair is limiting the brightness quite low. I'm not saying it will not have burn-in with heavy use, but then again, only a very small percentage of owners will fall into the "heavy use" category. It's way to soon to draw any conclusions about burn-in on MLA panels after 3 years when the tech isn't even out for 2 years.
@@NedimTabakovic If TVs are anything to go by, I am not worried.. My friend has a 10 year old OLED TV, took good care of it, and it shows zero burn-in issues. As a buyer of the Corsair model, I feel a bit more "secure" than with other brands but at the same time, I think that burn-in issues seem to be really over-estimated. We will see.
Also, the brightness is not really a problem, unless you have the thing like in direct sunlight. Quite the opposite, I really like the auto-dimming compensation for all-white screens, at least it doesn't explode my retinas when I open a website.
Really the only issue I've had with the Corsair model is occasional flicker with GSync in like 1 or 2 games, but that is easily corrected by just turning off Gsync for those games and I suspect a fix will come in time with firmware updates.
@@C0BEX Doubt it or not that doesn´t change reality of things. And actual OG OLED was used in similar manner as old calculators but in different colors, and it had predefined characters, then it was introduced ActiveMatrix-OLED actual technology used for true displays that all use today. Being WRGB subpixel array PENTILE or RGB doesn't mean it is something different. And "new" QuantumDot-OLED (also AMOLED) is layer used to boost colors similar to KSF phosphorus...
New addition is MicroLensArray, oversimplified something like reverse antiglare coating with more precise "bumps"-lenses per pixel that should help output more perceived brightness from panel and this can allow usage of lower actual paned brightness to have equal level of brightness...but maybe they count people will be stressed about burn-in and they will baby the monitor in that case it could last longer then 2 years...
@@Scorpius165 200 nits is highly unlikely to explode someone's retinas, but your pupil should open up completely to let all that scorching 200 nits inside
You should not be concerned since you are covered with warranty, just enjoy it man game on...
I would have called it the "Acer Predator X27ICU" 😄
Was excited about this till I heard no hdmi 2.1....at this point hdmi should be industry standard on ANY high end monitors.
Any news of Windows 11 possibly improving on OLED text clarity? I am fairly hopeful on Microsoft working on this, given how many “non mainstream” features they are adding already.
They have touched on this, possibly in a Q&A video. Basically, no one uses the standard Microsoft has implemented, so it will take some effort to do that.
and what do you do with that ? only the windows stuff will benefit from it ....not even the browser takes the windows cleartype fully... most apps and games totally ignore it. So yea ...those windows icons will have some nice text under them ...thats it.
lol Microsoft won't do jack for years about this.
Finally someone made a video on this.
For the money it seems like Alienware 34” DWF is the clear winner still at $900 US and yes slower at 165Hz. Right?
While I'm glad the name isn't a jumble of seemingly random letters and numbers, it is rather a bit similar to the E27u monitors we have at work. 😄
Can you guys review the AOC Agon Pro AG274QZM? It seems to be the only 240Hz monitor I've been able to find that's an actual released product that has the HDMI 2.1 ports capable of the full 1440p at 240Hz...
Is there any news about it's big brother? I've been waiting for it's presentation for almost a year now and there is zero info about it except it was supposed to release Q4 2024.
Still waiting for 24" 1440p240 glossy oled. Although, I would need to significantly change my behavior regarding usage because I would burn that thing in really fast. In fact maybe I should have it on an arm and just drop it in front of my primary monitor for gaming and content watching.
Never happening
@@ronniekregar3482 Give it time. Eventually we'll reach the holy grail.
@@cracklingiceNot happening. Stick with 1080p if you want a laptop screen.
@@svn5994 24" is the PERFECT size for a gaming display and 1440p is the perfect resolution. The combination is perfect match. It provides similar PPI (pixels per inch > resolution) to 4k at 32 inches without being a literal TV on a desk. It's far easier to drive than 4k so you can either run a cheaper GPU or go 80 class and get a high refresh experience. To get a 1440p at anything larger than 24" is basically the same quality as having gotten a normal sized 1080p monitor and putting it closer to your face.
the only thing stopping me from buying an OLED screen is the terrible desktop use. I need my pc (in extension my monitor) to be able to game AND be used for stuff like browsing, coding or doing uni stuff or even work from home. Id love to see more MINILED or so reviews, where the desktop problem is not as apparent due to the pixel layout, and the HDR performance still holds up
I've had the Asus for about a month, and I've already gotten used to the pixel layout. It's something I was definitely afraid of going into it, and even after owning it for about a week, I was thinking of returning it. But after a month of steady use, my eyes have adjusted. I found that with ClearType off, the fringing was less apparent. I only really ever notice it on bold black text on white backgrounds.
the LG is still the best option imo.
It's their panel, + it's the cheapest at £930 with LGs own 7% discount (that you can get for free), & a better warranty than the Asus version + it has HDMI 2.1
No HDMI 2.1 is a deal breaker for me
Can you show a screenshot of the area used for hdr gaming real scene brightness??
Eh, I still think glossy even looks better in direct lighting. That grainy look bothers me far too much. Plus it makes the entire image looked washed out and hazy. At work I have a far lower quality laptop than at my home, yet I like the screen more at work just because it's glossy. It's just so much clearer. I don't understand why anyone likes matte as the glare is still there, just now it covers a bigger area washing out more of the screen.
And I disagree, I think matte still looks far worse in the dark. It still has that compressed contrast look of being matte and the grain is honestly more prevalent then.
Why aren't manufacturers using HDMI 2.1 yet? I would think companies would want maximum compatibility with pc and console by now.
For that matter why not Display port 2.1?
hey can you make a list of the cheapest 100% SRGB/whatever colour space is available out there? it doesnt have to be 1k Hz, just a 60Hz for work or anything like this. much appreciated.
I keep seeing reports of bad quality control with the pg27aqdm and bad customer service... i want it but nervous to buy it
Hey there, there is a new budget monitor in europe thats one of the cheapest ones and the specs dont even look that bad. Its the KOORUI 27E6QC . Can you guys maybe review it? Its the Cheapest right now and i would be really interested how it performs. :) and btw the monitor is 1440p 144hz and only costs 180€ and on prime day it was like 150€ so really cheap 😄
Hi Tim, I do need some advice about watching 1080p videos on 1440p monitors that no one is talking about !
Tried some high-spec 1440p models but all of them were blurry, shockingly worse than 1080p native monitors while playing 1080p videos.
Then I unfortunately learned that the scaler won't be able to precisely transpose the 1080p image onto the 1440p screen. Meaning, blur and other visual artifacts make the video look substantially worse than 1080p native monitors and it's not related with bitrate or compression etc.
Mainly watching 1080p shows, movies (not streaming on youtube/Netflix etc) and have a huge archive... Tried 4K monitors/TVs with 1080p videos and they look just fine, equal to 1080p native ! 4K is exactly four times 1080p resolution; this means that for every pixel in 1080p, there are four pixels in 2160p, so you just make each pixel four times bigger. Looks exactly like a 1080p display.
I want to upgrade to 2K for games, web & work but "to watch 1080p videos blurry with artifacts" is holding me back.
4K is hard to drive and it's expensive but definitely clearer than 1440p !
- Should I skip 1440p & invest in 4K monitors ? Can you do a video about the elephant in the room ?
I'm facing the same dilemma :/
Did you get your answer by any chance?
@@ven_gnc Nope, I got a 1440p monitor and accepted the little blur of 1080p.
Price/Performance of 1440p monitors are at the peak now.
Invested in a 49", 5120x1440 @ 165hz PHILIPS 498P9Z SuperUltraWide monitor for the price of a decent 4K standart one and I'm very happy with that Behemoth! 👌
- Except the 1080p issues on 1440p
@Boorock70 Woahh congrats on the monitor xD
You probably made the right move. I got my PC setup around a year ago, and decided to go with a 1080p 240hz monitor instead of 1440p 144hz. I'm satisfied and definitely prefer the higher refresh rate. Although I'm currently craving for an OLED haha.
These monitors are selling for hundreds $$$$ more than they should tbh. While offering a great gaming hdr performance…..the price of this Oled tech is waaaay too high for a decade old tech imo. We need to see actual competition between manufacturers and not just pricing against each other.
when are displayport 2.1 monitors (or TV's) coming out? ie. 1440p 540hz, 4k 240hz
Are there any 24-32” oled 1080p monitors out there? I’ve looking for a while and it seems like all the monitors are at least 1440.
When will you be reviewing the Oled G9?
As a programmer I wonder how "programmer text color themes" would look like on OLED monitors i.e. in my case dark mode grey background with some half muted text colours.
Most IDE's has these color themes that are more pleasant for the eyes and used for the purpose to highlight the language syntax, I wonder how well OLED monitors performs in this use case.
If we would use my case as an example the background grey color is around 10-15% Value and most text colors are "half muted" (50-80% for both Saturation and Value), white colour tops at around 80%.
Hello fellow programmer! It looks fantastic, with a few limitations if you want to avoid burn-in:
1. Can't maximize windows, have to use floating windows and move them around once in a while.
2. Have to disable window snapping
3. Have to auto-hide taskbar
4. Have to auto-hide menu bar (on MacOS)
All in all, it is probably better to wait for now. Burn-in will not be fixed for the OCD amongus, but monitors will get bigger and denser.
Don't forget to LIKE the video
Do you have any plans to review Philips 27B1U7903? I will not be buying Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 or G8, so I'm looking for 4K HDR 16:9 alternatives.
Are you going to review the AOC Agon AG276QZD?
I paid £200 2 months ago for a brand-new Acer VG27Upiix 1440p Free sync IPS monitor. For the money, I am more than happy with its overall performance at that price. Would have to double that price to get marginal upgrade in screen performance. The stand was shit, but I was mounting it on a monitor arm anyway, so that did not matter to me. 27 Inch HDR 144Hz Vrr was good enough for my needs.
You did good, but it's not an HDR monitor...
Just because it says HDR on the box doesn't mean its true HDR experience. It needs to be at least HDR 1000 certified to offer any real kind of HDR experience. I would recommend just turning the HDR off in the settings and you will get a much better experience out of that monitor.
Its actually not a small difference between high end monitors and low end monitors but thats not a bad monitor at all!
I was torn between a decent IPS and the Corsair model, and I got the Corsair OLED at 15% off thanks to company discount. At that price (~$800) and after 2 months of use, it's a no-brainer imho. I could never ever go back to an IPS, even at half the price.
It's debatable whether or not it's "worth" the price hike, that depends on personal needs / tastem but as for the "marginal" screen performance upgrade, let me tell you that it's an absolute game changer, and anyone saying it's not is either in denial or needs eyesight checked. There is simply nothing comparable for content consumption.
@@BrentCox2B Well for its price its good enough for my situation. Also have to disagree about using HDR on this Monitor. Though it may not be as good as a HDR1000 certified one. After using HDR in a few games they look way better than in SDR so I use HDR when its beneficial visually on a per game basis. Might splash out one day but buying slightly older spec versions for less than a 1/4 of the price is better than staying on my basic SDR 1080p monitor and the visual upgrade is night and day . Hence, why i am happy enough with what i got.
@CameraObscure Hey if its working great for you and you are happy with it, thats what is important. You dont need an RTX 4090 and a 1000 dollar monitor to have fun playing games!
These monitors are still not recommended for programming right? The issues with reading text are still prevalent?
Any rumors of a Dell/Alienware 27” OLED monitor in the near future?
rock on brother
May I know 15:00 video clip of colour paint dipping comes from？Would like to play the video on OLED monitor. Thanks.
When LG loses the battle, but wins
Does this matt coating is the same heavy like the LG? Or Acer does use their own matt coating? I remember acer monitors had matt coating, but it was very nice ballanced. That grain wasn't that much noticed like at LG monitors.
How hard is it to get HDMI 2.1 and a glossy finish? If any of these companies wanted to win over the current market they would do these things. With no burn in warranty aswell, I see no reason to buy this over other models.
As soon as there is a glossy finish I will buy it until a 4k version comes out
Its kinda funny how in the laptop space matte is way more desired than glossy and even long time glossy user has switched to matte (lg).
Seriously, I'm desperate to buy a monitor like this but it seems stupid to buy one I can't also use my ps5 with and get vrr.
@@haggisman0812these companies just appear to be hopping on the Oled train without adding any value or inovation, truly sad.
@@haggisman0812if you do get a monitor I’d recommend the lg 27” Oled model. It supports hdmi 2.1 and has the best deals out of any model. I often see deals on this monitor recently at Best Buy for 850 bucks.
It's a pity you forgot to show the gamma/EOTF tracking in the sRGB emulation mode! That's what could make this monitor or break it for me.
Is there any way to see that?
whens the oled g9 review coming out?
why are companys refusing to implement hdmi 2.1?, i know that for consoles 1440p 120hz doesnt need the banwitch but as far as i know at least the ps5 needs 2.1 for ceetain feautres like vrr? and at this point are they just being cheap not using dp 2.0?
Probably because they expect people to only use HDMI for laptops and consoles, and if you have a laptop trying to drive 240Hz, they'll get a lot of complaints from less tech savvy people whose machines aren't strong enough, and consoles aren't strong enough to drive those frame rates either. I honestly don't understand the complaints about HDMI. None of the stuff you'd hook up with HDMI will run 240hz.
@@peoplez129 while fair enough about laptops, it's not that consoles need 240hz but as I say I think they need 2.1 for vrr support for the consoles
This monitor should be around 800$ at launch to compete with others