Saw them twice in the 70's --I can't even describe that feeling --but every time I listen to Animals, Dark Side of the Moon Wish you were here. In particular Dogs --It all comes back to me.
i think that although water & gilmours are bothh gr8 musicians, the real clever brains behind PF was wright. Listen to many of his synth parts etc, they're awsome! And no im not a synth player - im a guitarist. RIP rick wright
I was at this show. I was so young! I miss going to concerts. They had a message and I did not fully understand it at the time. Now, I begin to get it.
Collin Newton Perhaps it's something like, 'Find and pursue your dreams. The jorney will be very hard. And full of pain. Persevere, and along the way, you will find profound moments of wonder and joy which remind you of why you are here in this time and place.' What price the priceless?
David Gilmour is the best guitarist ever! I hear his music and it makes me want to cry and make love all at the same time. Those hands and those fingers amaze me every night as I go to bed listening to him play. Simply amazing. Nice to look at as well. Those lips, those eyes, and yes, did I mention those lips?
it was the ''chemistry'' between the four members of the band and the common ideas they had about music in middle 60's and 70's that lead them to the top and made them the best band the world ever seen.. of course the main ''brain'' in lyrics was roger waters but i think we can say as well that gilmour and wright was the main music composers.nick mason was the man who kept them in the main line they followed all these years.. all 4 are legends to me.. pf is ''one body''
balcksmith3560: I agree with most of your take on the band. They certainly were at their best while together (at least until "The Wall"), but that did not prevent them from making great music after.
PF is a sort of a beast with 4 heads. Their music is above any other I know. I enjoy them since the early days of 1975, some 35 years ago, when I met Atom Herat Mother and Dark Side (Wish wasn't published yet...)...
@himike25 i saw waters do the wall live at the tacoma dome on dec 11...best day of my life. my bday was on the 13th i was turning 15 and my dad is in to pf too so we went and it was just...breathtakingly beautiful. just beautiful.
Well spotted, other people have thought that too. High Hopes is full of references to other songs: the birds refer to Grantchester Meadows, the bells to Fat Old Sun, the last lyrics to See Emily Play. And yes, that chord progression may refer to Welcome to the Machine. The same chord progression also has marching drums, which some link to Bring the Boys Back Home. Fun, isn't it?
I didn't mean to say that the Wall failed, I love it. I meant that the chemistry between the members started to dissipate (Rick was fired by Roger during the sessions for The Wall). Sorry if my comment was unclear.
It's fun to make up theories about people and groups we don't know at all, isn't it? It was Roger who heard the potential of the "Shine On" riff, and made Gilmour play it over & over while Roger developed a SONG out of it. Same with "Wish You Were Here": Gilmour would have forgotten that riff ten minutes later if Roger hadn't said, "Hold on, what's that you're playing?" Many of the best PF songs, LIKE THIS ONE, were written by Roger alone. He's a full-blood MUSICIAN, his solo albums amply prove.
Once , just get the Lucy sky from Space with that tune ...what'eer ...keep stuck in the following sense it gives ...!! just ask why , time can't blow this feeling >...!!!
Neither of us can argue about how Roger acted when he was alone in a room with other members of the band. None of us were there, and everybody who was there is biased. We'd be fools to take David's word for everything, or Roger, Rick or Nick's. David has a well-known reputation for his acid tongue. He's certainly no angel, just sings like one. Bob Ezrin in Schaffner's book: "...the war that existed between those two guys was unbelieveable." As my mother always told us, it takes two to fight.
This concert was recorded from the soundboard but still found the sound shit despite another songs from this very gig sounds just great. Look at Pigs 3 Different Ones from this one. Incredible power with sensual anger. Lets call it like that;)
No, you're absolutely right, Rick's solo on "Sheep" is wonderful from start to finish! Which, I assume, is why Jon Carin plays a faithful rendition. I suspect Roger instructed him to do so. I think that's what I meant to say: Pink Floyd didn't actually need Rick Wright SONGS, but they damn sure needed Rick Wright keyboards. I actually think acoustic piano was his best instrument; every time they've used it the results turned out fantastic. But the Rhodes on "Sheep" -- YES.
@G0UDMAN one thing , though: Mason didn't get in the way of what was going on, which is what Floyd's atmosphere needed. In the rocking parts (end of "Animals", One of these Days") he did pick up quite a bit-especially live. If you want to hear Floyd/Mason ROCK, grab a copy of the "More" soundtrack. A forgettable movie from 1968 or so,the soundtrack, with the exception of a few tunes, is rocking and aggressive, with distorted guitars. You'll have Mason's chops on that one!
weil RW es nicht Wollte . DG und RW Liesen daraufhin DOGS Filmen. Das Las ich mal vor 40 Jahe in der Bravo . Jemand aus Deutschland nahm damals was auf, aber was und wie viel ist mir nicht bekant, außer das es der selbe Mann ist der auch für The Wall Aufzeichnungen oder so gemacht hat, unter anderem die Schirme by der 77 Tour, und die Puppen bei der Wall. RW besuchte vor Jahen diesen Mann in München . denke das wir endlich von der besten Tour außer die von DG mehr zu Hören bekommen.
@SydPring Beck's style is so different to Gilmour's that u couldn't possibly compare them. But could Jeff Beck write songs such as 'High Hopes', 'Coming Back To Life', 'Marooned' or 'A Great Day for Freedom'? Clapton is a great guitarist but he lacks the flair of David Gilmour. And this is a Pink Floyd video clip, so if u prefer Beck/Clapton etc, you know where to go.
fredo gumbo: Here's a video of Alice Cooper interviewing Jeff Beck about Beck almost becoming a member of Pink Floyd and The Rolling Stones: ua-cam.com/video/Ri2zJlbYy6o/v-deo.html
GOUDMAN my friend despite the fact how he plays(who i find him very good)mason was the one who said in the early 70's (or late 60's cant remember exactly) ''we are almost going to look and sound as a usual band'',,, floyd prob would never be the same without nick mason .. from that comment they ve done ..''the dark side of the moon'' album. anyway i believe that they were both music giants.. :)
Hey u can't forget Syd Barrett, or Brian soul,Brian was the lead guituarist b4 David came along. Anyone that has not seen the documentory on PF should. it is very interesting.
I never said David didn't play bass on this or that song. I do believe him. It's what he said about Roger's abilities I found repugnant: "Roger playing a fretless bass? PLEASE." Ho-ho-ho, what a big joke! What a professional way to act in an interview with Musician magazine! (Roger did an interview with Musician a month or so later, and chose not to talk about Gilmour at all, no matter how much the interviewer nudged; he talked about Amused to Death, which IS a more interesting topic.)
A lot of people, including myself, think The Final Cut is perfect just the way it is, moving and meaningful. It may not be a majority, it may not be more than the people who bought Momentary, but none of that means anything in the world of art. Roger didn't write TFC to sell records. He wrote it because he had something to say, and many of us hear and appreciate him for saying it. David & Nick voted to keep it a Pink Floyd album, then David trashed it in public for years. That's a snake, son.
We've heard what the "Comfortably Numb" demo was before Roger got his hands on it -- thank God he did! To say Gilmour "wrote" (and not "co-wrote") the song is exceedingly misleading. Gilmour didn't "write" any of those songs, he co-wrote them. To co-write is not to write. BIG difference. Roger has been true to the Animals album, performing every song in solo concerts, not David's Pink Floyd. It's my personal favorite. I also felt his Dark Side Live was truer in "vibe" than Pulse.
I wish I was better able to express myself with fewer words. Sorry for so many posts, folks. And I don't mean to trash anyone, so much as push BACK against the trashing of Roger Waters that's already gone on in the past. Not that he really needs my help ... He seems to be doing fine with his career these days! I love Pink Floyd, and all four of them were necessary to the classic sound. I'd like to leave it at that.
@sixsixxsixxxx atom heart mother was nessecary for floyd to fnd their cosmic groove.. and worked quit well as proved over the last half-century.. makes you kind of think that fate had something to do with the title of the concept album Atom Heart Mother :)
I think the greatest example of Rick Wright's talent is showcased in Animals. He didn't write a note of it (hoarding his ideas for "Wet Dream", released shortly after), and Animals is the VERY best Pink Floyd album. It even has, Rick's greatest solo, in "Sheep", not to mention fabulous atmospherics. He was a true ARTIST of the synthesizer, but as a songwriter he was completely unnecessary, as The Wall and The Final Cut amply prove. Roger Waters, very much a musician, wrote most of the songs.
Ben Culture: Richard Wright's keyboard contributions on "Animals" were among his finest work ever. I personally believe that Roger Water's lyrics on "Sheep" are close to his finest work too.
Finally: You are still making shit up, about why Roger left the band. In 1985, Gilmour, Mason, and CBS threatened to sue Roger for millions in "lost earnings" if he didn't return and write/record another Pink Floyd album for them. Yes, after dissing The Final Cut in public. Roger HAD offered to make TFC a solo album. They said no. He didn't "try to take over"; they quit trying to write songs! They tried to force him to work with them; his only legal "out" was to resign. They're NOT nice people.
Ben Culture: I don't think that there is much argument about how it all went down. Roger Waters mistakenly believed (his own words) that the public would not "buy into" a Pink Floyd without him. So, Roger quit the band; then in an attempt to prevent Gilmour and Mason from performing/recording under the Pink Floyd name, he chose to sue them in court. He subsequently lost that suit and was bitter about it for many years. The 2005 "Live 8" reunion of Pink Floyd was fantastic to watch; but since then everyone in the band more or less went their own way, and I've been fine with that. I truly hope that Roger is happy and continues to enjoy any/all success that he desires. I do not hold any grudges against him and readily admit that he was the lyrical force during his time in Pink Floyd. Personally, I'm just glad that David Gilmour is still making music and that I am still able to enjoy his amazing musicianship.
@G0UDMAN .. They didn't use Mason's talent in the later albums which really annoyed me. He was just a drummer in the later albums (The Final Cut, Momentary Lapse Of Reason, Division Bell...). When they were a driving creative force in the 70's that''s where he showed his skills. But without Mason, Pink Floyd wouldn't be Pink Floyd.
In politics, they call it "defining your opponent". Bush II was a master of it. Gore was an "exaggerator", Kerry was a "flip-flopper", you just stay "on message" and repeat it enough, the sheep will believe and repeat it. So Roger was a "megalomaniac", a "power-mad" dictator who somehow prevented good ol' Dave and Rick from having ideas - or, at least, refused to use them, as if that was Roger's decision alone. Now they were angry teens, rebelling against a controlling, abusive father ...?!?
Finally, you're right again that there is a clear difference between Roger Waters playing a Fender Precision bass and Snowy White (or Andy Bown) playing one. Of COURSE, Roger is not and never will be Jaco Pastorius. But I don't like Jaco. I don't like whatever band Billy Sheehan's in. I like Pink Floyd! And part of classic-era Pink Floyd includes the bass tone Roger creates with his fingers and pick. I think "Breathe" was the ultimate, after which he didn't strive so much as a bassist.
Oh, and my other point was that Roger *doesn't* and *never has* criticized Gilmour's musicianship in any way. Even at the height of it all, when even Nick (Roger's one friend in the band) was joining in with the snotty jokes about his skills, "stomping around and making faces", Roger didn't ever return fire on that level. And I've heard plenty of bootlegs of Gilmour going on too long, too wrong, boring, flat, rough, and screwing up lyrics. I have. Sorry to say it, but these tapes do exist.
Roger Waters did sing on "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" from the "Wish You Were Here" studio album, but not on the WYWH song itself. Gilmour is the only vocalist credited on that track. Subsequently though, Waters has sang on that song during his solo tours.
@G0UDMAN its not so much about how good he is.. ya he is nothing special in my opinion either technically.. but its being in the right place at the right time.. if it was another drummer, that had more influence on the music they produced, he coulda started shit of his own to add to the dramas back then,... nick mason was passive.. and sort of a peace keeper between the members, so his personality was a good match for the band. sometimes thats more important than your technical abilities
They also made a point of defining Roger as a poor musician. When asked about the bass solos in "Hey You", Gilmour took credit, with "Roger playing a fretless bass? PLEASE." You will NEVER see Roger Waters insulting Gilmour's musical ability. When Roger brought them demos for both The Wall AND Pros & Cons (he wrote them simultaneously; that AMAZES me!) Gilmour told a fanzine they were "unlistenable" and "sounded exactly alike". Insulting a man's home demos, I consider very low.
Yeah only few bands survive after their "golden age", either one of them dies young (Led Zep, Jimi Hendrix) or they split up due to fights (Pink Floyd, Cream) or they go "pop" (Genesis, Yes). One band that kinda avoided that is Rush, although they still went for a more straightforward approach to their music.
Okay, crazylady. First of all: Gilmour is not dead. Secondly: Seems you are taking things awfully seriously, while telling ME not to. Thirdly: "Don't you dare ..."? You say this to me? To THAT, I say "To Hell with you." Fourth: No, Gilmour was never the songwriter Roger Waters is. Many great Floyd songs are written, words&music, by Roger alone. ("Money"; this song; "Have a Cigar"; most of Animals and The Wall; The Final Cut) None of the classics are written by Gilmour alone. Finally: [ . . . . ]
It's usually hit or miss, I, most of the time do actually like his voice, but he definitely wore it out but straining it, singing quite high and all the inhale screeching he used to do, which was cool asf mostly.
@@davidgilmour3173 really. So your main comment is about Rogers backing vocals? Get a life and grow up. You cant even hear Rogers in this song. Who the hell ever comments on the backup singers voice? Dumb.
If you read interviews from the worst of the "Floyd Wars", 1986-1989, when Roger Waters was "competing against myself and losing", as PF filled stadiums playing his songs, while Roger (sadly) flogged a semi-comedy which conceded far too much to 80s techno and blue-eyed soul - You will see Roger insult their new songs, especially the lyrics, and state that, in the classic era, he did most of the work, while "they were basically lazy". But they would insult Roger's personality. Check it and see.
@Maravalmusic I am a huge PF fan but Atom Heart is terrible...the other songs are okay but the main piece bad, like a bad western parody...even Waters said toss it in the trash!
Robert Bermudez: I don't think that I've ever heard any of the band members have very much good to say about "Atom Heart Mother". In general, they all felt that it was a failed experiment, but it was an important experience during their path to stardom.
Saw them twice in the 70's --I can't even describe that feeling --but every time I listen to Animals, Dark Side of the Moon Wish you were here. In particular Dogs --It all comes back to me.
i would give anything to see pink floyd live back in the 70'z.
i think that although water & gilmours are bothh gr8 musicians, the real clever brains behind PF was wright. Listen to many of his synth parts etc, they're awsome! And no im not a synth player - im a guitarist. RIP rick wright
Agreed
I was born in 77. Have lived in Oakland. Pink Floyd is the best rock n roll band ever. Period.
I prefer Led Zeppelin myself and Black Sabbath.
Pink Floyd made the best music ever, by distance
I was at this show. I was so young! I miss going to concerts. They had a message and I did not fully understand it at the time. Now, I begin to get it.
40 years has passed. I always think inside Pink Floyd's music there's a deep sorrow, a cosmic view about time, life, human, etc..
What is that message?
Collin Newton Perhaps it's something like, 'Find and pursue your dreams. The jorney will be very hard. And full of pain. Persevere, and along the way, you will find profound moments of wonder and joy which remind you of why you are here in this time and place.' What price the priceless?
@@CSXTrainLoverCN01 Anti-war, anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalism and anti-music industry among other things.
Please send your answer to Old Pink, care of the funny farm, Chalfont.@@CSXTrainLoverCN01
David Gilmour is the best guitarist ever! I hear his music and it makes me want to cry and make love all at the same time. Those hands and those fingers amaze me every night as I go to bed listening to him play. Simply amazing. Nice to look at as well. Those lips, those eyes, and yes, did I mention those lips?
And those eyes… and those eyes…
Still have the concert program for this..Priceless.
Something magic hearing David and Rodger singing together.
Thank You!
Best concert ever! This week is 40 year anniversary of release of Dark Side of the Moon. Makes me happy to be born to enjoy it.
This is the version I was looking for..its the best one ❤
Roger does an effective job of mimicking the throbbing VCS3 on his bass. I always wondered how that would work live.
Believe it or not, Roger’s actually playing an acoustic guitar. That bass is being played by Snowy White, the other guitarist.
@@Joshodgesr I did not know that. Thanks!
ironic how they played this at work
Deep
That’s what it’s about
hahah "at work" is such a funny way to describe what they were doin but it is true
@@bugdavies lol
Forgot all about this comment
they needed each other to be the best this is proof
according to the ECHOES book. this concert was may 9, 1977. they played may 10th as well but only played one encore.
What did you dream?
It's all right we told you to dream. 🎶
We told you what to dream , An important difference,
@@kevanbodsworth9868 yes the illuminati matrix has told us what to dream
it was the ''chemistry'' between the four members of the band and the common ideas they had about music in middle 60's and 70's that lead them to the top and made them the best band the world ever seen..
of course the main ''brain'' in lyrics was roger waters but i think we can say as well that gilmour and wright was the main music composers.nick mason was the man who kept them in the main line they followed all these years.. all 4 are legends to me.. pf is ''one body''
balcksmith3560: I agree with most of your take on the band. They certainly were at their best while together (at least until "The Wall"), but that did not prevent them from making great music after.
Don’t ever forget about syd barrett tho he too made great music himself and with the band and created a pathway for them
Yup, that is… literally how a band works
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful
@pinkpigsheep1977
I think, that MLOR was genious.
All of Floyd's concert is genious!
OMG this is like 10x better than the album cut!
I was at this concert...17 years old
Intro of Welcome to the Machine = Birth of Dubstep
Danielt104 agree dude
PF is a sort of a beast with 4 heads. Their music is above any other I know. I enjoy them since the early days of 1975, some 35 years ago, when I met Atom Herat Mother and Dark Side (Wish wasn't published yet...)...
@himike25 i saw waters do the wall live at the tacoma dome on dec 11...best day of my life. my bday was on the 13th i was turning 15 and my dad is in to pf too so we went and it was just...breathtakingly beautiful. just beautiful.
1:15 What a voice
Well spotted, other people have thought that too.
High Hopes is full of references to other songs: the birds refer to Grantchester Meadows, the bells to Fat Old Sun, the last lyrics to See Emily Play. And yes, that chord progression may refer to Welcome to the Machine. The same chord progression also has marching drums, which some link to Bring the Boys Back Home. Fun, isn't it?
Wow! , they sure sure knew how to make a sound didn't they.
Thanks for sharing this . . .
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Luna
Great, great, that's all and no less
increable band the best seems to come out of England Pink Floyd ,Paradise Lost, the Beatles so many more increable bands from England
Best cyberpunk song ever
"Pink Floyd Plays the Animals" The Last Performance of Careful with that Axe Eugene by the band.
11 machines couldnt understand
Now it's 21.
Reggae Fan 22
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Eh, I just think the studio version is better.
Now it's 24 (03.09.20)
Stupid machines......
The last time they played careful with that are Eugene live it was at the Oakland show in 1977
I didn't mean to say that the Wall failed, I love it. I meant that the chemistry between the members started to dissipate (Rick was fired by Roger during the sessions for The Wall). Sorry if my comment was unclear.
Gilmour's Telecaster sounded amazing...
thesimguy1905 he didn't play a tele on this song, he used it mainly for dogs because of the alternate tuning.
@hemet92544 im 15 living in WA and all i listen to is PF, went to a waters concert on the 11th. best day of my life. $550 paid for itself.
It's fun to make up theories about people and groups we don't know at all, isn't it?
It was Roger who heard the potential of the "Shine On" riff, and made Gilmour play it over & over while Roger developed a SONG out of it.
Same with "Wish You Were Here": Gilmour would have forgotten that riff ten minutes later if Roger hadn't said, "Hold on, what's that you're playing?"
Many of the best PF songs, LIKE THIS ONE, were written by Roger alone.
He's a full-blood MUSICIAN, his solo albums amply prove.
I think i prefer it live over the studio version just makes this song sound as raw as it is intended to be.
Once , just get the Lucy sky from Space with that tune ...what'eer ...keep stuck in the following sense it gives ...!! just ask why , time can't blow this feeling >...!!!
@himike25 I saw them four times in the 70's. Twice in "73", then again in "75" and in "77".
@blacksmith3560 one body one soul baby! greatest band of all times
Neither of us can argue about how Roger acted when he was alone in a room with other members of the band. None of us were there, and everybody who was there is biased. We'd be fools to take David's word for everything, or Roger, Rick or Nick's.
David has a well-known reputation for his acid tongue. He's certainly no angel, just sings like one. Bob Ezrin in Schaffner's book: "...the war that existed between those two guys was unbelieveable."
As my mother always told us, it takes two to fight.
@himike25 "I would give anything to see pink floyd live back in the 70'z"
What Floyd fan would not give anything to see them ; )
This concert was recorded from the soundboard but still found the sound shit despite another songs from this very gig sounds just great. Look at Pigs 3 Different Ones from this one. Incredible power with sensual anger. Lets call it like that;)
No, you're absolutely right, Rick's solo on "Sheep" is wonderful from start to finish! Which, I assume, is why Jon Carin plays a faithful rendition. I suspect Roger instructed him to do so.
I think that's what I meant to say: Pink Floyd didn't actually need Rick Wright SONGS, but they damn sure needed Rick Wright keyboards.
I actually think acoustic piano was his best instrument; every time they've used it the results turned out fantastic. But the Rhodes on "Sheep" -- YES.
Yeahhhhh...
@peggybinky As a man, I totally agree with those first 2 sentences, and I've never been able to vocalize that exact feeling, but u nailed it, lol.
@G0UDMAN one thing , though: Mason didn't get in the way of what was going on, which is what Floyd's atmosphere needed. In the rocking parts (end of "Animals", One of these Days") he did pick up quite a bit-especially live. If you want to hear Floyd/Mason ROCK, grab a copy of the "More" soundtrack. A forgettable movie from 1968 or so,the soundtrack, with the exception of a few tunes, is rocking and aggressive, with distorted guitars. You'll have Mason's chops on that one!
Why in this period Pink Floyd don't have video at their performances?
weil RW es nicht Wollte . DG und RW Liesen daraufhin DOGS Filmen.
Das Las ich mal vor 40 Jahe in der Bravo .
Jemand aus Deutschland nahm damals was auf, aber was und wie viel ist mir nicht bekant, außer das es der selbe Mann ist der auch für The Wall Aufzeichnungen oder so gemacht hat, unter anderem die Schirme by der 77 Tour, und die Puppen bei der Wall. RW besuchte vor Jahen diesen Mann in München . denke das wir endlich von der besten Tour außer die von DG mehr zu Hören bekommen.
too many enjoying the concert
Rick Wright & David Gilmour are Pink Floyd
You're an idiot
@SydPring Beck's style is so different to Gilmour's that u couldn't possibly compare them. But could Jeff Beck write songs such as 'High Hopes', 'Coming Back To Life', 'Marooned' or 'A Great Day for Freedom'? Clapton is a great guitarist but he lacks the flair of David Gilmour. And this is a Pink Floyd video clip, so if u prefer Beck/Clapton etc, you know where to go.
fredo gumbo: Here's a video of Alice Cooper interviewing Jeff Beck about Beck almost becoming a member of Pink Floyd and The Rolling Stones: ua-cam.com/video/Ri2zJlbYy6o/v-deo.html
fecking classic
Is it just me or does that small section from 2:55 to 3:02 sound similar to a chord sequence in High Hopes?
I hope I'm not hearing things. LOL
@blacksmith3560 - Actually, I think Waters was the main music composer as well (in collaboration with Gilmour and Wright).
GOUDMAN my friend despite the fact how he plays(who i find him very good)mason was the one who said in the early 70's (or late 60's cant remember exactly) ''we are almost going to look and sound as a usual band'',,, floyd prob would never be the same without nick mason ..
from that comment they ve done ..''the dark side of the moon'' album. anyway i believe that they were both music giants.. :)
Hey u can't forget Syd Barrett, or Brian soul,Brian was the lead guituarist b4 David came along.
Anyone that has not seen the documentory on PF should. it is very interesting.
@MitjaShi absolutely agree mate..
I never said David didn't play bass on this or that song. I do believe him.
It's what he said about Roger's abilities I found repugnant: "Roger playing a fretless bass? PLEASE."
Ho-ho-ho, what a big joke! What a professional way to act in an interview with Musician magazine!
(Roger did an interview with Musician a month or so later, and chose not to talk about Gilmour at all, no matter how much the interviewer nudged; he talked about Amused to Death, which IS a more interesting topic.)
Ben Culture Gilmour plays so much better than Roger, bass, guitare and every thing.
MOOG!
Pink, Pig & Sheep...
:-)
A lot of people, including myself, think The Final Cut is perfect just the way it is, moving and meaningful. It may not be a majority, it may not be more than the people who bought Momentary, but none of that means anything in the world of art.
Roger didn't write TFC to sell records. He wrote it because he had something to say, and many of us hear and appreciate him for saying it.
David & Nick voted to keep it a Pink Floyd album, then David trashed it in public for years.
That's a snake, son.
i think i have the same bootlegg cd as you. lots of individual picture on the cover including an oriental looking girl with tongue towards a cigar???
We've heard what the "Comfortably Numb" demo was before Roger got his hands on it -- thank God he did! To say Gilmour "wrote" (and not "co-wrote") the song is exceedingly misleading. Gilmour didn't "write" any of those songs, he co-wrote them. To co-write is not to write. BIG difference.
Roger has been true to the Animals album, performing every song in solo concerts, not David's Pink Floyd. It's my personal favorite. I also felt his Dark Side Live was truer in "vibe" than Pulse.
Still he's a douche..
My God, enough of the Roger David Roger David crap. All four members of Pink Floyd made the music.
actually is the same chord progression but in another key
Good job passe faire un tour sur ma page
@rockaires I agree any other music I hear almost makes me sick.
it's waters and gilmour on the album
I wish I was better able to express myself with fewer words. Sorry for so many posts, folks.
And I don't mean to trash anyone, so much as push BACK against the trashing of Roger Waters that's already gone on in the past. Not that he really needs my help ... He seems to be doing fine with his career these days!
I love Pink Floyd, and all four of them were necessary to the classic sound. I'd like to leave it at that.
Roger Waters is currently the largest selling single act ever. Madonna, Jackson, no one.
He's (Roger Rabbit) still a douche... sorry if that ruffles feathers.
@sixsixxsixxxx atom heart mother was nessecary for floyd to fnd their cosmic groove.. and worked quit well as proved over the last half-century..
makes you kind of think that fate had something to do with the title of the concept album Atom Heart Mother :)
I think the greatest example of Rick Wright's talent is showcased in Animals. He didn't write a note of it (hoarding his ideas for "Wet Dream", released shortly after), and Animals is the VERY best Pink Floyd album. It even has, Rick's greatest solo, in "Sheep", not to mention fabulous atmospherics. He was a true ARTIST of the synthesizer, but as a songwriter he was completely unnecessary, as The Wall and The Final Cut amply prove.
Roger Waters, very much a musician, wrote most of the songs.
Ben Culture: Richard Wright's keyboard contributions on "Animals" were among his finest work ever. I personally believe that Roger Water's lyrics on "Sheep" are close to his finest work too.
gilmour didnt write high hopes lyrics moore did
@rockaires I agree, although Jethro Tull comes in at a close second.
Who sings? David or Rogers?
David and Roger haha
Finally: You are still making shit up, about why Roger left the band.
In 1985, Gilmour, Mason, and CBS threatened to sue Roger for millions in "lost earnings" if he didn't return and write/record another Pink Floyd album for them. Yes, after dissing The Final Cut in public. Roger HAD offered to make TFC a solo album. They said no. He didn't "try to take over"; they quit trying to write songs!
They tried to force him to work with them; his only legal "out" was to resign.
They're NOT nice people.
Ben Culture: I don't think that there is much argument about how it all went down. Roger Waters mistakenly believed (his own words) that the public would not "buy into" a Pink Floyd without him. So, Roger quit the band; then in an attempt to prevent Gilmour and Mason from performing/recording under the Pink Floyd name, he chose to sue them in court. He subsequently lost that suit and was bitter about it for many years. The 2005 "Live 8" reunion of Pink Floyd was fantastic to watch; but since then everyone in the band more or less went their own way, and I've been fine with that. I truly hope that Roger is happy and continues to enjoy any/all success that he desires. I do not hold any grudges against him and readily admit that he was the lyrical force during his time in Pink Floyd. Personally, I'm just glad that David Gilmour is still making music and that I am still able to enjoy his amazing musicianship.
No, it's written by Gilmour, with his wife Polly Samson.
@blacksmith3560 although that kinda failed after Animals...
@G0UDMAN .. They didn't use Mason's talent in the later albums which really annoyed me. He was just a drummer in the later albums (The Final Cut, Momentary Lapse Of Reason, Division Bell...). When they were a driving creative force in the 70's that''s where he showed his skills. But without Mason, Pink Floyd wouldn't be Pink Floyd.
We like to.
my subwoofer just paid for itself (:
In politics, they call it "defining your opponent".
Bush II was a master of it. Gore was an "exaggerator", Kerry was a "flip-flopper", you just stay "on message" and repeat it enough, the sheep will believe and repeat it.
So Roger was a "megalomaniac", a "power-mad" dictator who somehow prevented good ol' Dave and Rick from having ideas - or, at least, refused to use them, as if that was Roger's decision alone.
Now they were angry teens, rebelling against a controlling, abusive father ...?!?
i actually prefer the live version of this song to the studio version.
I like the way Nick's drums are more out in front. Mason's tympani flourishes in the studio version are cool, but they're too buried in the mix.
Finally, you're right again that there is a clear difference between Roger Waters playing a Fender Precision bass and Snowy White (or Andy Bown) playing one.
Of COURSE, Roger is not and never will be Jaco Pastorius. But I don't like Jaco. I don't like whatever band Billy Sheehan's in. I like Pink Floyd! And part of classic-era Pink Floyd includes the bass tone Roger creates with his fingers and pick. I think "Breathe" was the ultimate, after which he didn't strive so much as a bassist.
check out the madison square garden concert in 87! its the best! The sound is not terribly good on this oakland 77 bootleg.
They are on Weed xD
look up "zeitgeist" kip, sounds like you may be a bit of a truthist :) This is the machine we live in.
Oh, and my other point was that Roger *doesn't* and *never has* criticized Gilmour's musicianship in any way. Even at the height of it all, when even Nick (Roger's one friend in the band) was joining in with the snotty jokes about his skills, "stomping around and making faces", Roger didn't ever return fire on that level.
And I've heard plenty of bootlegs of Gilmour going on too long, too wrong, boring, flat, rough, and screwing up lyrics. I have. Sorry to say it, but these tapes do exist.
roger sang shine on WYWH
Roger Waters did sing on "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" from the "Wish You Were Here" studio album, but not on the WYWH song itself. Gilmour is the only vocalist credited on that track. Subsequently though, Waters has sang on that song during his solo tours.
@@420since1974 Waters also sang a verse of it at the Live 8 reunion show in 2005.
And "Dogs".
versions matter
The Live Verison sounds better
WTH-this IS the live version. WTF is wrong with you.
Your stupid
@G0UDMAN its not so much about how good he is.. ya he is nothing special in my opinion either technically.. but its being in the right place at the right time.. if it was another drummer, that had more influence on the music they produced, he coulda started shit of his own to add to the dramas back then,... nick mason was passive.. and sort of a peace keeper between the members, so his personality was a good match for the band. sometimes thats more important than your technical abilities
They also made a point of defining Roger as a poor musician. When asked about the bass solos in "Hey You", Gilmour took credit, with "Roger playing a fretless bass? PLEASE."
You will NEVER see Roger Waters insulting Gilmour's musical ability.
When Roger brought them demos for both The Wall AND Pros & Cons (he wrote them simultaneously; that AMAZES me!) Gilmour told a fanzine they were "unlistenable" and "sounded exactly alike".
Insulting a man's home demos, I consider very low.
Pink Floyd wrote "Dogs".
nice math
Yeah only few bands survive after their "golden age", either one of them dies young (Led Zep, Jimi Hendrix) or they split up due to fights (Pink Floyd, Cream) or they go "pop" (Genesis, Yes). One band that kinda avoided that is Rush, although they still went for a more straightforward approach to their music.
Okay, crazylady.
First of all: Gilmour is not dead.
Secondly: Seems you are taking things awfully seriously, while telling ME not to.
Thirdly: "Don't you dare ..."? You say this to me? To THAT, I say "To Hell with you."
Fourth: No, Gilmour was never the songwriter Roger Waters is. Many great Floyd songs are written, words&music, by Roger alone. ("Money"; this song; "Have a Cigar"; most of Animals and The Wall; The Final Cut) None of the classics are written by Gilmour alone.
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Roger’s voice 💀💀😂
It was Davids voice. Catch up.
@@JohnParker-cm1eg No shit it is David singing the lead. I am referring to Roger providing backing vocals obviously. "Catch up".
It's usually hit or miss, I, most of the time do actually like his voice, but he definitely wore it out but straining it, singing quite high and all the inhale screeching he used to do, which was cool asf mostly.
Uh-Its David
@@davidgilmour3173 really. So your main comment is about Rogers backing vocals? Get a life and grow up. You cant even hear Rogers in this song. Who the hell ever comments on the backup singers voice? Dumb.
If you read interviews from the worst of the "Floyd Wars", 1986-1989, when Roger Waters was "competing against myself and losing", as PF filled stadiums playing his songs, while Roger (sadly) flogged a semi-comedy which conceded far too much to 80s techno and blue-eyed soul - You will see Roger insult their new songs, especially the lyrics, and state that, in the classic era, he did most of the work, while "they were basically lazy".
But they would insult Roger's personality. Check it and see.
@Maravalmusic I am a huge PF fan but Atom Heart is terrible...the other songs are okay but the main piece bad, like a bad western parody...even Waters said toss it in the trash!
Robert Bermudez: I don't think that I've ever heard any of the band members have very much good to say about "Atom Heart Mother". In general, they all felt that it was a failed experiment, but it was an important experience during their path to stardom.
bad version.
live pulse >>>>>>>> all