Wood Lathe Tool Rest How To Use (height, position, maintenance, safety) Woodturning Video
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- The wood lathe tool rest is probably the most handled part of the entire wood lathe, but we talk so little about it. Read this article turnawoodbowl....
Learn everything you need to know to use the wood lathe tool rest.
How high do you set the tool rest? How far away from the wood should the tool rest be? Do I need to do anything to maintain my tool rest? We cover all these topics.
If you're looking for an upgrade for your lathe, the tool rest is a great place to start. I've included links below for several Robust Tools tool rests that will fit almost any lathe on the market. The quality and hardened steel of the Robust tool rests makes them far superior to almost all "stock" manufacturer's tool rests. Check them out
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Hello Kent! I’m new too turning too, I see like many others here, and I really enjoy your well prepared and presented videos. I have just barely started setting up and using a shop smith clone Total Shop and just got Ron Brown’s sharpening system with the 40/40 grind option. I was given a set of 12 old craftsman spindle tools, and have picked up some nice Crown Tools tools including 1/2” bowl gouge, 3/8” detail gouge, a large roughing gouge and scraper.
I’ve been woodworking for 50 years and am super surprised at how much there is to learn with turning! It is very very specialized and I am beginning to see why so many people turn to turning. Yet having said that, compared to woodworking generally, wood turning is rather limited? I mean, the options are basically spindles and bowls? Yes they can get very decorative, and can be totally beautiful works of art. But it is not so easy to justify spending say $5k for a decent lathe and initial tools … assuming I upgrade from the Total Shop which I must say it not such a great lathe.
I am probably getting ahead of myself to think about getting a decent lathe, but as I have not quite retired yet now is the time to spend this sort of money. Which brings me to why I’m writing here … any thoughts on the various lathes? I see you have a Robust, I’ve been considering Powermatic 3520C and Oneway 1640, but am leaning towards the Laguna 18/36, as I think it is all I would need, an I like the fact that a dull tool is quickly alerted by the motor bogging down a bit. I’m not afraid to spend the money, but don’t want to waste it either.
Like I said it’s early days yet, and I need to make lots of shavings first.
Welcome to the party, Gary. Thinking of woodworking as “additive” (putting pieces together), and woodturning as “subtractive” (taking away more like carving). Two totally different worlds. As for the tools, yes, always sharp is best and the lathe needs as much power as you can afford. When you get into larger bowl blanks you will appreciate a larger motor. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I am a brand new woodturner, I appreciate your very informative and useful videos. Well planned and presented, THANK YOU
Glad it was helpful! Thank you and Happy Turning!
As a novice woodturner your videos always give me an “a ha” moment. Really enjoy your videos!
Awesome, thank you! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I am self teaching. I truly appreciate all your knowledge sir. I have learned a great deal from you.
Thank you, Lee! My pleasure, I'm glad to help. Happy Turning!
you are the best. Hello from belgium
You, Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. I'm so thankful for UA-cam and awesome guys like you for sharing your knowledge.
Wow, thanks! Much appreciated! Happy Turning!
Thanks Kent, I'm making my way through your valuable library of videos.
Great demonstration of tool rests
Thanks!
Thank you, Kent. You are an excellent teacher.
You’re very good at explaining what you’re doing lots of help thanks good job
My first lathe had no ability to adjust the tool rest up or down and I watched a video that explained repositioning rationale so when my new Laguna lathe arrived I couldn’t figure out why I was having so much trouble making even decent passes. These simple lessons mean so much to a novice turner, most others just say “let me adjust my tool rest” and almost never explain how or why, or what adjustment to make. Thanks so much for the simple but very important lessons Kent
I'm so happy to help. You made me smile. Happy Turning!
Thanks for this, i was too close, that explain my poor surface finish!
Excellent Maxime. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I have been turning for a long time, however for the past 8 years I have moved a number of times and have not set up my workshop and turned. Needless to say I am going to be rusty when I get back to it. The videos on your site are a great refresher for me and have motivated me to get back into turning the big supply of wood I have on hand. Great advice, the quality is top notch and one thing I really like is that I don't have to hunt all over the Internet watching various turners, some really good, some not so good. One stop shopping on your site, I like it. I used to belong to a club that had a wealth of it's own master turners but they also brought in master turners from around the country and
world. One thing you have in common is your willingness to share your knowledge and help others. I think that is one of the keys to being a master, which you are.
Wow, thank you Terry! I like the one-stop shop image. ;) I do my best to cover everything about wood bowl turning! Thanks a ton. Enjoy getting back in the saddle! Happy Turning!
Hi,
I'm not even a starter yet, but if I gather enough knowledge I definitely want to buy a lathe.
Since I don't have a lathe yet, I thought it would be interesting to start at the beginning.
Thank you for making me so much wiser in one video, I didn't know about anything.
I hope to learn a lot from you.
Keep it safe, it is not over yet.
Willy from Belgium.
Willy B. Belgium Bowl.
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Thank you, Willy! I'm so glad to help. Remember; persistent, patient practice will yield the bowls you imagine creating! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Hey Kent,
As I watch your videos , one after another , I do Learn things that I have not really don't always want think about ! You are helping me me do better all the time !
Thank you for the inspiration
That you give out with each video that you do
Take Care and Be Safe
My pleasure Larry! I'm so glad to help! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
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Thank you again , Kent !
I just purchased a six inch Robust tool rest for my Laguna; I second your recommendation, it's very high quality. I'll be adding their curved, inside rest in the future. Their home base is less than 100 miles from me.
Excellent. You know they have an open house each fall. Could be a fun trip. ;) Happy Turning!
Very helpful for this newbie!
I'm so glad! Thank you, and welcome. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Love to know more about a tool rest not attached to the lathe.... Wanting to do bigger items with headstock at the end of lathe bed, with no tail stock on?
Ok, I'll see what I can do. Happy Turning!
Thanks for the instructional video Kent, much appreciated.
My pleasure! Happy Turning!
I took a 42 year work and family vacation from turning. I’m retired now and getting back into turning. I find your videos extremely helpful Well thought out and presented. Thank you.
That is awesome! Glad vacation is over and you're ready to get back to the lathe. ;) Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl I'm finishing a 25 year holiday from turning! Loving these instructions. Soooooo useful. And inspiring. Thanks Ken.
Wow! Why does no one else cover this topic? I just learned some things that explain some of the issues I've been having. Thanks so much!
Shrug! I'm not sure. LOL But I thought these were important to share. Glad it was helped for you! Happy Turning!
Thanks uncle, you have.given important information. God bless you.
Thank you kindly. Happy Turning!
You are quite right. So many issues are covered so many times and become redundant. As a newbie, my ears are peaked at the mention of certain bits of info, particularly lathe speeds during certain phases of turning objects AND tool rest positioning ( particularly the height as it relates to the CL of the object turned). I understand that so many of the masters have so many things they do that come as second nature to them because they have been doing it so long , so it's so great to have someone cover this issue . Thank you, it's really appreciated.
Robert,
You are more than welcome.
I remember learning these topics and how important they are to the whole process. And you're right, many turners gloss over them thinking everyone is aware, when many aren't. Glad this was helpful, hope you are subscribing. Happy Turning!!!
My wife and I are beginning learners to turning, having just has a couple of lessons at our local turners guild. We are really looking forward to getting our own lathe and learning as much as we can about the art.
Same for my wife and I except we can’t find any in person classes locally. The videos on this channel are wonderful! We bought a Laguna 1216 midi lathe so starting out small.
Turned my first bowl last night...made a lot of mistakes but was able to correct most of them. watched your video on turning a perfect tenon and will put that to practice tonight as well as positioning the tool rest video and riding the bevel for the 3 or 4th time. Bowl turning is the reason I bought my lathe 3 years ago but only turned spindles to this point....excited to finally get started. Thank you for your videos.
Fantastic! Bowl turning is going to wake up your world. Get ready for some FUN! Happy Turning!
Very helpful as a constant reminder to think before you cut. :) Basic context of this video should be incorporated into basic bowl turning video.
Great video, glad to learn indepth info concerning the tool rest.
Perfect. Thank you. Just what I was looking for having bought a new lathe. Subscribed for sure 👍 thank you from the UK
Awesome, thank you in the UK! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
A valuable video for me as a newcommer in Wood turning. Thanks!
My pleasure, Torben. Glad to help. Happy Turning!
Hey Kent ,
It's Daniel I have already commented on an article on your website, I'm glad that you have decided to start your channel in UA-cam , I hope some of your topics from your website will be transformed in to videos
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Greetings from Germany and happy turning
Hello Daniel, Thanks for writing. Yes, I'll be making many more UA-cam videos. Is there a topic you would like to see covered? Let me know and I'll do my best to help you out. Thanks again, Kent.
@@TurnAWoodBowl sharpening is a really big topic and not so well presented on UA-cam , There are a lot of videos but the only one that explains the backgrounds well is stuard batty , and the "trouble zone" would be nice to hear about
I just watched the tool rest video, great job. You made something that seemed complex become simple. Hope to see many more videos.
Thanks, Joesph. Mopre videos on the way. Stay tuned.
Yet another very informative video.
Leo W, St. Charles, Missouri, BOWL TURNING - Start to Finish
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This is a fantastic class! I just got a bigger lathe and am re learning, the lathe height, tool rest positioning and techniques. As a result I lowered the height of the lathe an inch. Thank you so much for doing these!!!
Fantastic! Glad this helped. Happy Turning!
Adam B Oak Hill, NY Bowl turning start to finish
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Thanks, that helped me!
Thank you😊
You're welcome, Lord Please subscribe, and Happy Turning! 😊
Until I can afford a Robust rest, I'll level off the iron rests by running them on a belt sander. Just be sure to remove all wood dust from the belt sander if it's used for wood.
Glad I found this channel!
Welcome Chuck! Happy Turning!
So much great information presented in an easy to understand video
Glad you liked it Bill! Thank you and Happy Turning!
Great video. Thank you.
You are welcome! Happy Turning!
Hi Kent, I have really benefitted from your videos. Have just upgraded my lathe to a lovely old Ramator bench and have been exploding bowls ever since!! Your gouge video, and this one have been super helpful in my quest to turn a bowl I want to keep! Much appreciated. Ben
Hello, Ben thank you for writing. I'm glad to hear the videos are helping you. Check out my website www.TurnAWoodBowl.com too. Enjoy!
Again, thanks for an informative video. This afternoon, I was just thinking about all the things you covered.
Perfect! Glad to hear this. Happy Turning!
Good job on the video; very informative
I'm glad you like it!
Good advice
Glad it was helpful Brian!
Thanks for an excellent presentation. Good explanations well supported by video demonstrations. Also, thanks for demoing the outside curved tool rest; had not seen that before.
Rob Berthold
Georgetown , Texas
Nice video! I also really like your website...it is PACKED full of information. I will say though that I find myself going down a rabbit hole way too often as I start reading an article that has a link so I follow the link to a new article only to find myself clicking on another interesting link on the new page...rinse and repeat. Maybe I have missed it but there is so much information that I feel like I need a road map from point A to Z to keep me on track.
Kent - Great video. Your explanation was simple & easy to understand.. Keep up the goodwork
Thanks Kent 👍
Just watched a couple of your videos and are more informative than most others.
Thanks, Glenn!
Always learning from Kent , thanks.
Awesome, glad to hear it! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Great info, thanks
Thank you, Carl! Happy Turning!
Once again you give me a perspective that is so helpful!
Happy to help! Happy Turning!
Agree with everything. First thing I should have done when I got my Delta lathe was throw out the tool rests that came with it. They were rough castings with a coat of poor paint over them and caused me nothing but grief. Finally replaced them with ones similar to yours, although not that brand. Made a huge difference.
Glad you have improved tool rests now. Make a difference, right?
@@TurnAWoodBowl It makes a huge difference! The tools just glide along easily now, and it is much, much easier to control the angle of the tool and movement across the surface of the wood. They weren't expensive, either. Mine are similar to yours with a round high strength steel bar welded to the top of the tool rest.
As a brand new beginner, I just bought a cheap lathe from L**l, not being sure if I would enjoy turning. I certainly didn't have high expectations for the price, but the top surface of the tool rest has such deep machining ridges, it's almost as if it's been straight knurled! Right out of the box, I was tempted to file it smooth. Having watched this video, I'll follow my instincts and do exactly that tomorrow.
I made my very first spindle 'thing' today and still have all my fingers, so I'll count that as a win.
@@alanmumford8806 One of the most frustrating things is having a gouge or other tool get caught while you're trying to do a smooth cut. Kent is 100% right, you need a good, smooth tool rest that will let your gouge or other tool slide easily along the rest. And the price of the lathe has nothing to do with whether or not you'll get a decent tool rest. The one that came with my Delta was absolutely *horrible*. Even the one that came with the old Harbor Freight junker I had came with a better one than the Delta.
@@feetachemail This is what I got. www.lidl-shop.cz/PARKSIDE-Soustruh-PDM-600-A1/p100312004 I live in the Czech republic, so if you open this in Chrome and use translate, you can see the text in English. It barely qualifies as a lathe, but it was only something like 90 bucks, so I can accept its limitations. I could always convert it to a sander!
I just love the marketer's photo of the guy holding that skew like the oar in a Roman galley! Have a great New Year.
very good thank you
Thank you too!
Great video! I have been turning for several years now, and I VERY MUCH appreciate the effort that goes into your instructional videos 🙂. I turn a variety of products, on a Laguna 1836 lathe (think one step down from a Robust). I bought the Robust J tool rest and it has been my #1 tool rest since I got it! I may explore others, but that J rest is remarkably valuable!
Thanks for all your effort!!
Thank you kindly, Wes! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Great Video, I have been watching your video's glad I came across them your hitting on all the parts us beginner's need keep them coming Thankyou. Ron
Awesome, thank you! Happy Turning!
Great info.... thanks...
Glad it was helpful! Happy Turning!
I love these videos
Thank you, Richard! Happy Turning!
Thank you for the information. I appreciate your style of teaching. It is very informative and easy to understand.
You are very welcome. Happy Turning!
Hej Kent You are amassing. You made a video about The toolrest interesting. I Realy feel that you gives me something in all The videos of yours that i have sen Thank you 😊
Thanks 👍
Nice work.
Ken V
Warriors Mark, PA
Bowl
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Hey Kent. Thanks for this video. I have watched many beginner turning videos and most gloss over tool rest heights and positions, if they mention it at all. I found this to be very informative and look forward to many more videos.
Thanks Michael!
Come visit my site at www.TurnAWoodBowl.com and you'll discover I don't gloss over much of anything about turning wood bowls. LOL
Enjoy and Happy Turning,
Kent
John M
Raymore, MO
Tool Sharpening for Wood Bowl Turning
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Thankyou so much for this informative video. I have just started to turn and this has helped me so much.
Wonderful!
Thank you your video was a great help to me
Regards
Steve UK London
You're welcome!
Another good bit of info for a refresher course. Thanks again for sharing!!
You're welcome!
Turn A Wood Bowl
I guess it is time for a “Turn A Wood Bowl” video viewing marathon for my wood turning experience. Too much good info to pass up; particularly when it has been much too hot in my garage to turn wood for the past several months.
@@jarmstrong2843 sounds like a good plan. And getting started now will make it more manageable because I have tons more videos in the pipeline!
Another great video
Great explanation, Kent, thank you! As a beginner, I have a small table-lathe (record power dml 250) Using thicker gouges doesn't work because the toolrest can't be lowered to the fitting height. Changing it is hardly possible as it has a 3/4 inch diameter post. Waiting for the money to get a better lathe. Btw. Your amazon links don't work in Germany as they don't lead to the American website.
Thanks for sharing. Some of the Amazon links should be converted to products for you in Germany. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Frank P
Salisbury, NC
Wood Bowl Turning Start To Finish
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Like the way you explain things. I been trying turning for a few years and somewhat happy with spindle work but bowls are a issue. This video and the one on bowl gouges have been very helpful. One issue I have is understanding the turning speed for various types of turning do you have a video on speed setting?
Right on. LATHE SPEED VIDEO Coming next week. Stay Tuned!
Hi. Very informative and easily explained. Thanks. But, nobody ever talks about the angle of the gauge. That would very much affect the height of the tool rest. Am I wrong?
I also whatched your video on how to use a bowl gauge. I can see the point of the gauge is upwards a bit and handle down but I would like to see a video or pictures from the front and back at the same hight as the tool rest in order to see the angles properly. Thanks. 👍🏼
I agree. Check out this article of mine turnawoodbowl.com/wood-lathe-tool-rest-height-adjust-maintain/
Thomas, C, Edinburg, VA, TOOL SHARPENING
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My first lathe was
I enjoyed the video about the tool rest . New at wood turning and I like all the tips you give .
Awesome, thank you!
I had 2 Robust rests made for my Harbor Freight lathe. The post is 25mm diamter. When I ordered, I had to give the woman the height of my rest and diameter of the post. I did all that. I waited around 2 months for my rests to finally arrive. The post diamter was 23mm and they both were 1 1/2" too tall. I called Robust and the guy was nasty to me. He said they don't carry 23mm stock and my measuring device was wrong. Sorry, but I used 3 different calipers and a box end wrench and the posts were 23mm and they slop around in the holder. Then he told me to just cut them down to size with a hacksaw. For what I paid for the rests, it should've been right the first time. It's been 3 years and they're still sitting in the box. The whole experience disgisted me. Screw Robust.
Another good review that I found very useful. I like to replay your tutorials before going off to my Saturday sessions with my turners group. And I have followed your suggestions on gouges and bought some fine Sheffield cryogenic steel side ground gouges ($$$$!) which I like to think will help me do better work. But that might be like thinking if I buy the same shoes as Roger Federer I will play like him. ]-(
Great to hear! Those gouges will hold their edges longer. Happy Turning!
Good info
Thanks Vincent! Happy Turning!
Really useful, thanks!!
You're welcome! Happy Turning!
Dan A.
Grafton, Massachusetts
Bowl
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I'm new to wood turning and your veidos are very helpful, you explain things in detail that no one else does.
What brand of bowl gouges do you recommend?
Would you be able to recommend what order a Newbie should view your videos in? Keep up the good work.
Absolutely Paul! If you are going to be using a bowl gouge, I'd recommend this playlist first ua-cam.com/play/PLoJyGhc4_JBELkkEKhRb-05iJ_6U2uKXB.html and you will really have the best experience with a sharp bowl gouge, so check out this Tool Sharpening Course www.TurnAWoodBowl.com/sharp From there, I'd say watch any of the videos in this playlist ua-cam.com/play/PLoJyGhc4_JBEA9mVexqRb0IDxnInR8WuW.html Enjoy and Happy Turning!
Great video very informative ,keep making them. Rob in Wales.
Thank you, Robert in Wales. Will do! Happy Turning!
How about getting the rest to move more freely when adjusting in and out and sliding across the bed.
Check out my lathe maintenance video. Happy Turning!
Kent:
Long post or short post???????
I just realized it depends on the lathe size. I purchased the Jet 12 - 21 lathe, I assume I would use the short post tool rests????
You'll need to check with the manufacturer and see what sizes they recommend.
Dave B Crossville TN Bowl
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Hello again Kent. Thanks for this video.
I continually find myself having issues when getting into the “bottom corners” of live edge bowls. I (for whatever reason) cannot properly position a tool rest to provide me with the support that I need to get into that bottom corner to round out the sides into the bottom. My lathe has a max swing of 12” and even on a 6 or 7 inch bowl I find I’m too far out with the rest that I don’t have great control. I’ve tried several rests, all to no avail.
Any suggestions?
Hm? I can understand. Have you tried the Robust J-Tool Rest? Happy Turning!
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Hi loved your video. I’m looking to buy the heavy duty tool-rest holder, that Massive cross bar shown, that goes on and is supported on each cross bed rail in your video. What’s the link or is it home fabricated? I own an old 1940’s Southbend 9” lathe. Thanks- Tony NYC
I can not go left to right due to position of my lathe.do I use the same method as you described in end grain video
OK, sometimes we need to do what works best for our situation. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Hey Kent my name is Jim love your videos question how high should the lathe be from the floor ? I know it would depend on the person how tall or short they are as well as arm length. I’m 6’5” with long arms ape like lol. I’m a beginner turner with a wen bench lathe I’m looking into buying legs for it. Any advice thank you.
I have an old craftsman lathe that I am just starting to use. So far the tool rest is everything your video says is wrong: not smooth (has raised ruler numbers on it that catch the tools), is not sturdy ( since it is a pipe base, it does not get tight and wiggles), cannot get close enough because of the way it is made. It is frustrating, especially for a beginner to try and learn on. Any thoughts?
Chris, great question. Well, if you're into welding and metalwork, you might want to make your own. If that's not an option there are other third-party tool rests available.
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What kind of grinder do you use and brand name of jig to sharpen
I feel like I am going to blow things up. (in a bad way) So the idea is to always cut at the center line? I have not started yet. Lathe is still in a box. The more I learn the more I see I have no idea...
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check the links for the rests some are not right
OK will do. Thanks!
What do you do if your too rest can't go low enough?
Hm? Good Question. Contact the manufacturer for suggests, or find a different tool rest that is shaped to fit your needs better. Happy Turning!
Does this apply to spindle turning as well?
Most aspects, yes, Alexander. Happy Turning!