Honestly, as a brit, I'd say the borderline whacky timetable was very much accurate back then. Timetables were like that, because at the time, the few passengers still using most of these services were focused on peak times only. It's a charming route. What I've seen so far of Preston-Ormskirk-Blackpool gives me the same vibe.
You're right; there's just something about BR in the '80s. And I'm also looking forward to the Blackpool route; I'll be reviewing it at some point (albeit without the Ronnie Barker impression at the start; that was a one-off gag).
I'm from Huddersfield. It's one of my favorite routes in the game and there was a station at Cottingley between Leeds and Morley. Now it's been shut to be replaced by one at the White Rose Shopping Center.
It was one of the first routes I got when I first got TSW2 in 2020, being the route that is nearest to where I live (the Airedale line is my local line and that goes to Leeds). The thing that breaks it for me is the lack of NPCs, since late in TSW2's time, I remember more NPCs being around. Also there should be some Class 31 services as they ran Manchester - Hull services.
Ahh splendid, here I was just looking for a review on the Heavy freight pack (although I already own it) and coincidentally you uploaded this today :) Big fan of your videos, keep it up.
DTG increased prices to accommodate for the increased cost of living in the UK. IMO this route is aesthetically drab and unadventurous, so is the timetable.
Not all the routes do they kept most TSW1-2 routes to £25 the only routes with price changes is SEHSE, SOS and the some others. (SEHSE stands for south eastern high speed extended)
This is my local line so I was tempted to get TSW for it. Thankfully a modern version of the route came to TS Classic so I got that instead 😀. Still I do hope this version gets ported over to classic as well one day as I like the BR Blue era aesthetic.
Unfortunately I've been noticing the Blackpool North Branches to Ormskirk route, I've noticed the same thing too with the fields being absolutely empty and I've also noticed there's a football pitch too but its absolutely empty... And the distant scenery too being empty too. I've also noticed that there are blank fields too, no grass textures etc
I like this route tbh. I got it with tsw1 delux, got the freight dlc on sale last year, i play on ps4 and its the only real train sim on that console that i know of. I stayed on tsw2 until a week or 2 ago when i got the scotsman tsw4 edition. Since i saw these vids on this channel on those other tsw4 routes.
Will this run on TSW 4? As it’s listed as a TSW 2 add on Xbox store. I’m a little confused I’ve not bought the game yet but am considering it based on this route alone.
Wonderful review and your channell really helps me in choosing the DLCs! One question, is it realistic for trains in those times in the UK to not have an NRN module in the driver's cab? For example, both the Class 47 and 101 in this route have a very detailed cab modelled, but neither has a radio module with a telephone in the cab. Was it possible to drive the trains without it, would they be operable?
As a non-gamer.... or at leas tone who only plays the ps5 a couple times year at most, could someone please tell me how we are supposed to remember how to make a train drive after months away from the game and forgetting the controls. I put the game on a few days ago and sat there with no idea how to make it go, hahaha. Surely the game should have an option to give a person hints after the initial practice.
Aye, a local route to me. Honestly it’s great to see the contrast between the line in the 1980s, current day and what it’ll look like soon with the TRU. *Personally* I love this route. The rolling stock is a bit annoying to get used to, but when you get used to it it’s satisfying as heck 😅 Also just to add a quick point regarding Ravensthorpe: From what I’ve seen (and what I’ve ridden), Northern don’t infact call at Ravensthorpe on their main on and off peak services anymore. Weird how the company with ‘express’ in its name stops at all stations when a company that’s - well, not express - passes. 🤷♂️ Oh and Morley too: I don’t believe TPE’s nova 1 sets (Class 802 in other words) stop there either. I think the only ‘smallish’ station that took express services at one point is Batley with services to Hull, but I think that was in 2017 or 18.
@@DC4260Productions ah yes, sorry TransPennine Route Upgrade. Should be bringing electrification and faster line speeds. Said electrification has already reached Stalybridge infact
Open the cab window on the Peak class 45 its LOUD the horn is poor yes but close to how they sounded, the engine noise is spot on and very loud like I remember them, these are Sulzer engines so they do make those noises. The Class 40 isn't quite right though should be way louder and more bass. the 47/4 on NTP has finally been upgraded with better sounds However the 47/8 in preserved condition on the WSR is disappointing with no real sounds on it, you thrash that and its not making any sound that matches a 47/8 working hard. The latest JT/DTG route The Blackpool Branches has an new and improved brake timing High intensity headlight and 3 liveries BR blue like NTP but with orange cantrail stripe names, Large Logo with names and Intercity Executive also names, These new locos can be used on this route NTP as well when bought on TSW4.
Oh and Dove tail made a mistake to not include Healey Mills yard as it was a few miles from Ravensthorpe on the line from Mirfield. Also they missed a trick not including the Calder Valley line as it's just as scenic
Despite me hating the motive power, and the sounds are absolutely terrible when increasing throttle it sounds like it’s priming up then just goes quiet, I did end up rating it 6/21 of the routes I own. I liked the routes scenery, the 47 has that odd 4 gear setup, but the commuter service is fun, overall it feels pretty empty, DTG just needs to pack the yards as you never get to use them anyways. I’ve noticed that almost every route it’s like DTG thinks trains only haul passengers or tankers, of course you will have center beams, boxcars, etc. but unless you choose to haul a point to point in scenario it is always tankers…
@@DC4260Productions I meant in general, like the US freight routes are super bad about only hopper or tankers being literally the only thing you switch around, but you’ll have centerbeams in industry siding all over but not once do you switch them. Peninsula corridor a prime example. When I got this route it came as like a 8$ bundle with id say 7-8 routes for tsw3, I got impatient with tsw4 this year and went ahead and bought the delux apart from it being a buggy mess 50% of the time I enjoy the new routes apart from ECML, absolutely the worst route period
@@jwrailve3615I live in Canada (a huge source of lumber) I almost never see centerbeams being switched generally they usually just get sent on a hotshot from the mill to the port then shipped overseas instead of sitting in yards out in the weather (raw untreated lumber likes to rot) even though there are plastic coverings over the wood many times they can get ripped or torn.
I have this route when I first got into tsw due to getting the deluxe edition of tsw2020. Even though I perfer more modern routes, I do enjoy playing this route because of how challenging and different it is. I do enjoy playing the class 47 and this review was pretty good and fair as usual I am surprised that DTG have only made 2 br blue era routes. Perhaps BR Blue Era routes don't do well in the sales department or something
Yup. Matt said on forums I think that players tend to want the new and shiny stuff (aka modern electrics) compared to the old diesels. It's whatever players grew up with and the newer generation don't appreciate the old stuff.
17 minutes review and no mention that the buildings/houses have no lights at night! Unless there was no electricity in 1983 I don’t understand how something that really kills the inmersion it is not even mentioned. How can I enjoy a route seeing Leeds with a massive blackout?! If ambassadors etc don’t say anything dovetail will never fix this. It’s ok I only been waiting 6 years for this to be fixed
You can travel from Liverpool to Scarborough passing through Manchester Leeds and York along the way. It’s one of the main arterial routes in the country. I live in one of the smaller towns along it and I can tell you it’s ridiculously busy at certain times of the day and weekends.
I quite like them actually for the extra gameplay and content they provide like the rhtt, rog 37, ska 423. Those were especially cheap. Even though rivets gameplay pack is on the more expensive side, I'm interested in the 66 with an emergency coupler so I can hook up passenger trains with it.
I'm looking forward to those new liveries for the 66 (it's about time we got more liveries instead of the overused EWS), but the Rivet gameplay packs are overpriced.
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I have both of these dlc these make the 80s routes feel very authentic I like this era of UK trains there classic
The Spartan timetable is actually prototypical for the time, Beeching did a number on ManVic and so it looking empty is pretty realistic.
Honestly, as a brit, I'd say the borderline whacky timetable was very much accurate back then. Timetables were like that, because at the time, the few passengers still using most of these services were focused on peak times only.
It's a charming route. What I've seen so far of Preston-Ormskirk-Blackpool gives me the same vibe.
You're right; there's just something about BR in the '80s. And I'm also looking forward to the Blackpool route; I'll be reviewing it at some point (albeit without the Ronnie Barker impression at the start; that was a one-off gag).
I'm from Huddersfield. It's one of my favorite routes in the game and there was a station at Cottingley between Leeds and Morley. Now it's been shut to be replaced by one at the White Rose Shopping Center.
Lot of shopping centres in Britain eh? interesting as the ones here in Canada & US are all dying.
It was one of the first routes I got when I first got TSW2 in 2020, being the route that is nearest to where I live (the Airedale line is my local line and that goes to Leeds). The thing that breaks it for me is the lack of NPCs, since late in TSW2's time, I remember more NPCs being around. Also there should be some Class 31 services as they ran Manchester - Hull services.
It's a bit strange that the 31 doesn't appear on this route, since we do have a 31 in the game.
If you recommend getting it, it means it's good
Ahh splendid, here I was just looking for a review on the Heavy freight pack (although I already own it) and coincidentally you uploaded this today :) Big fan of your videos, keep it up.
DTG increased prices to accommodate for the increased cost of living in the UK. IMO this route is aesthetically drab and unadventurous, so is the timetable.
Not all the routes do they kept most TSW1-2 routes to £25 the only routes with price changes is SEHSE, SOS and the some others. (SEHSE stands for south eastern high speed extended)
This is my local line so I was tempted to get TSW for it.
Thankfully a modern version of the route came to TS Classic so I got that instead 😀.
Still I do hope this version gets ported over to classic as well one day as I like the BR Blue era aesthetic.
Unfortunately I've been noticing the Blackpool North Branches to Ormskirk route, I've noticed the same thing too with the fields being absolutely empty and I've also noticed there's a football pitch too but its absolutely empty... And the distant scenery too being empty too.
I've also noticed that there are blank fields too, no grass textures etc
I like this route tbh. I got it with tsw1 delux, got the freight dlc on sale last year, i play on ps4 and its the only real train sim on that console that i know of. I stayed on tsw2 until a week or 2 ago when i got the scotsman tsw4 edition. Since i saw these vids on this channel on those other tsw4 routes.
Will this run on TSW 4? As it’s listed as a TSW 2 add on Xbox store. I’m a little confused I’ve not bought the game yet but am considering it based on this route alone.
Any TSW 1,2,3 DLC is compatible with 4 far as i know (source = bought TSW2 DLC keys for TSW 4 myself and it works)
Wonderful review and your channell really helps me in choosing the DLCs! One question, is it realistic for trains in those times in the UK to not have an NRN module in the driver's cab? For example, both the Class 47 and 101 in this route have a very detailed cab modelled, but neither has a radio module with a telephone in the cab. Was it possible to drive the trains without it, would they be operable?
As a non-gamer.... or at leas tone who only plays the ps5 a couple times year at most, could someone please tell me how we are supposed to remember how to make a train drive after months away from the game and forgetting the controls. I put the game on a few days ago and sat there with no idea how to make it go, hahaha. Surely the game should have an option to give a person hints after the initial practice.
UA-cam tutorials
in game tutorials you can replay them
Aye, a local route to me. Honestly it’s great to see the contrast between the line in the 1980s, current day and what it’ll look like soon with the TRU. *Personally* I love this route. The rolling stock is a bit annoying to get used to, but when you get used to it it’s satisfying as heck 😅
Also just to add a quick point regarding Ravensthorpe: From what I’ve seen (and what I’ve ridden), Northern don’t infact call at Ravensthorpe on their main on and off peak services anymore. Weird how the company with ‘express’ in its name stops at all stations when a company that’s - well, not express - passes. 🤷♂️
Oh and Morley too: I don’t believe TPE’s nova 1 sets (Class 802 in other words) stop there either. I think the only ‘smallish’ station that took express services at one point is Batley with services to Hull, but I think that was in 2017 or 18.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’m just going off my mind here
I'm not sure what the 'TRU' is; please explain.
@@DC4260Productions ah yes, sorry
TransPennine Route Upgrade. Should be bringing electrification and faster line speeds. Said electrification has already reached Stalybridge infact
Open the cab window on the Peak class 45 its LOUD the horn is poor yes but close to how they sounded, the engine noise is spot on and very loud like I remember them, these are Sulzer engines so they do make those noises. The Class 40 isn't quite right though should be way louder and more bass. the 47/4 on NTP has finally been upgraded with better sounds However the 47/8 in preserved condition on the WSR is disappointing with no real sounds on it, you thrash that and its not making any sound that matches a 47/8 working hard. The latest JT/DTG route The Blackpool Branches has an new and improved brake timing High intensity headlight and 3 liveries BR blue like NTP but with orange cantrail stripe names, Large Logo with names and Intercity Executive also names, These new locos can be used on this route NTP as well when bought on TSW4.
Oh and Dove tail made a mistake to not include Healey Mills yard as it was a few miles from Ravensthorpe on the line from Mirfield. Also they missed a trick not including the Calder Valley line as it's just as scenic
They can't always include everything
Despite me hating the motive power, and the sounds are absolutely terrible when increasing throttle it sounds like it’s priming up then just goes quiet, I did end up rating it 6/21 of the routes I own. I liked the routes scenery, the 47 has that odd 4 gear setup, but the commuter service is fun, overall it feels pretty empty, DTG just needs to pack the yards as you never get to use them anyways. I’ve noticed that almost every route it’s like DTG thinks trains only haul passengers or tankers, of course you will have center beams, boxcars, etc. but unless you choose to haul a point to point in scenario it is always tankers…
The 12-ton vans and TEA tankers are the only freight wagons you'll see on NTP. You don't get center-beams on British routes.
@@DC4260Productions I meant in general, like the US freight routes are super bad about only hopper or tankers being literally the only thing you switch around, but you’ll have centerbeams in industry siding all over but not once do you switch them. Peninsula corridor a prime example. When I got this route it came as like a 8$ bundle with id say 7-8 routes for tsw3, I got impatient with tsw4 this year and went ahead and bought the delux apart from it being a buggy mess 50% of the time I enjoy the new routes apart from ECML, absolutely the worst route period
@@jwrailve3615I live in Canada (a huge source of lumber) I almost never see centerbeams being switched generally they usually just get sent on a hotshot from the mill to the port then shipped overseas instead of sitting in yards out in the weather (raw untreated lumber likes to rot) even though there are plastic coverings over the wood many times they can get ripped or torn.
I have this route when I first got into tsw due to getting the deluxe edition of tsw2020. Even though I perfer more modern routes, I do enjoy playing this route because of how challenging and different it is. I do enjoy playing the class 47 and this review was pretty good and fair as usual
I am surprised that DTG have only made 2 br blue era routes. Perhaps BR Blue Era routes don't do well in the sales department or something
Yup. Matt said on forums I think that players tend to want the new and shiny stuff (aka modern electrics) compared to the old diesels. It's whatever players grew up with and the newer generation don't appreciate the old stuff.
17 minutes review and no mention that the buildings/houses have no lights at night! Unless there was no electricity in 1983 I don’t understand how something that really kills the inmersion it is not even mentioned. How can I enjoy a route seeing Leeds with a massive blackout?! If ambassadors etc don’t say anything dovetail will never fix this. It’s ok I only been waiting 6 years for this to be fixed
I didn't know about the lack of lights in the buildings when this review was made.
@@DC4260Productions unless they fixed it but I doubt it. Easy to check choose a night service and you will see
Managed to pickup TSW 3 for $11.39AU. Some say that is dirt cheap, but I guess you get what you pay for when shopping for dirt.
But trans pennie was never a busy route it was a secondary line so not alot of trains ran over it
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You can travel from Liverpool to Scarborough passing through Manchester Leeds and York along the way. It’s one of the main arterial routes in the country. I live in one of the smaller towns along it and I can tell you it’s ridiculously busy at certain times of the day and weekends.
DTG need to stop with stupid loco Packs
I quite like them actually for the extra gameplay and content they provide like the rhtt, rog 37, ska 423. Those were especially cheap.
Even though rivets gameplay pack is on the more expensive side, I'm interested in the 66 with an emergency coupler so I can hook up passenger trains with it.
I'm looking forward to those new liveries for the 66 (it's about time we got more liveries instead of the overused EWS), but the Rivet gameplay packs are overpriced.
@@DC4260Productions looks like Rivet Games Only Care about the money
A beautiful British Rail video❤🎉@Tauraco00
Are you going to review the new AP 142?
Probably not, because I'm put off by the high price. I can't justify spending as much as 30 pounds on one Train Simulator add-on.
@@DC4260Productions Don't blame you one bit. it is quite pricey just for a train