That's our Rivet! ~ An Updated Train Sim World 4 Rant

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  • @markushellwig9600
    @markushellwig9600 10 місяців тому +3

    Concerning your rant on the BR 204:
    As someone who had the pleasure to operate this loco IRL eventually as an associated heritage rail engineer many moons ago, I can confirm that this rendition is spot on in almost every aspect!
    You may find the central cab unusual, but here in Germany it is very common for midrange Diesels up to 1.200 hp. The elevated and unobstructed viewpoint is very nice when shunting. Due to its modernisation in the 1990s, the instrumentation in fact is a quite odd mixture of analogue and digital instruments, and the digital speed readout of the PZB90 is absolutely authentic. Same goes for the Diesel sound: That's exactly how this engine sounds like! Especially when idling.
    As far as I'm concerned, there's only one thing missing: Because of the turbo lagging, the real thing spat out large plumes of black soot when the power ("Fahrstufen") was applied to soon and impatiently. My old driving instructor always insisted on incresasing the power one notch after the other with quite some time waiting on each step to allow the turbo to speed up and supply enough air for combustion.
    I really like this rendition! Brings back nice memories...

    • @markushellwig9600
      @markushellwig9600 10 місяців тому +1

      FYI: Just found some nice footage of the pre-modernised 204 (as DR BR 202) in its natural habitat:
      ua-cam.com/video/qeOla122gKk/v-deo.htmlsi=SY6Y4KArUflDS2jk

    • @perrieguilfoyle4390
      @perrieguilfoyle4390 10 місяців тому +1

      Whats it like operating that locomotive

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for explaining what the BR204's like in real life. Now her centre-cab layout makes a lot more sense to me.

    • @markushellwig9600
      @markushellwig9600 10 місяців тому

      Kia Ora! Glad i could sort this out.

  • @Kurimuzonsky
    @Kurimuzonsky 10 місяців тому +3

    Not implementing the request stop system on the Arosa was a massive opportunity missed. I am maybe one of many who bought that DLC, wanting to try that new experience.

  • @jordanperosiel-williams7236
    @jordanperosiel-williams7236 10 місяців тому +6

    Theres something i absolutely love about your channel and you reviews, you're not afraid to speak you mind no matter who/what criticizes you. What's ironic is that this mentality is needed since APPARENTLY a lot of people will throw riots if you don't like certain things or dare i say I say it give constructive criticism. It's really pathetic of this world, and word of note when TSW 4 was released the 1938 TS received an updated soundset. But the point is you yourself is also a good role model for people, it's such a shame how people let others intimidate them

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  10 місяців тому +1

      I've seen enough of Brett Cooper's show to know that there are loads of people who always have a bone to pick with something, regardless of whether or not it makes sense. Indeed, her sheer honesty has been a big influence on me and my review style.

  • @denbaker7358
    @denbaker7358 10 місяців тому +2

    I've heard the reasoning behind the shorter routes is for the players who don't have much time to do long routes.

  • @perrieguilfoyle4390
    @perrieguilfoyle4390 10 місяців тому +5

    I have decided not to pay full price for the dlcs anymore i have decided to wait untill they go down in price before i buy them

  • @nicokeel9609
    @nicokeel9609 10 місяців тому +9

    yeah DTG also lost a customer with me. IDK i quit liked playing the game when it was still called tsw2. But something changed and I don't feel like dtg/rivet cares about customer like me who loves accurate, fun, "made with love" simulation anymore. I am going back to playing actually good sims like MSFS, DCS, ETS or heck any other sim. This money scam dtg is pulling off has to stop !!

  • @derekwildstar731
    @derekwildstar731 9 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for this video. I enjoy hearing your extensive knowledge of different classes of engines and routes. "Vote with your wallets" I totally agree! I won't buy ANY DLC unless it is steeply discounted. 10% doesn't cut it anymore. Keep up the great work!

    • @e575fho
      @e575fho 9 місяців тому

      I am so sick of Dovetail I dont even own TSW4! Just a massive rip off imo.

  • @benedekhalda-kiss9737
    @benedekhalda-kiss9737 10 місяців тому +2

    The reason for the high and middle cab of the br 204 is for shunting. You cna see over the cars somewhat and also you can see easily both ways

  • @TB76Returns
    @TB76Returns 10 місяців тому +2

    Yes, yes and yes. But I will wait and see what the UK route that Rivet are making is like before making my decision to buy it or not. But the bigger issue is of course the DTG/Focus Entertainment gravy train. You really should consider doing a rant about said gravy train and how it impacts TSW

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  10 місяців тому +1

      I feel like, if I did, I'd be repeating the same points that I made towards the end of this video.

    • @TB76Returns
      @TB76Returns 10 місяців тому

      @@DC4260Productions Well, up to you whether you do a video or not

  • @ozdazz
    @ozdazz 10 місяців тому +2

    Better off playing Rivet's TS Classic routes than what they are producing for TSW...seems they are still in the learning phase with the later. Both DTG and Rivet are stuck with having to get something in the store before the production costs outweighs what they will make in sales, which is why we keep seeing these ridiculously short routes or final destinations well short of any logical destination (not just in TSW either, Rivit's Gothardbarn on TS Classic is an example)

  • @jakecopeland8068
    @jakecopeland8068 10 місяців тому +3

    Even if dovetail makes Romford to Upminster they will still somehow cock it up

  • @samhartnett8700
    @samhartnett8700 10 місяців тому +2

    Congratulations on the mention from Brett! It’s always a great feeling when you’re being noticed by your favourite UA-camr/role model! May I know when exactly she mentions you? Thank you

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  10 місяців тому +1

      Around 33 minutes into the stream. I'm not letting this go to my head, because Brett's not a friend or anything like that. She's just a UA-camr and I'm just a fan; that's all.

  • @markcovington4761
    @markcovington4761 10 місяців тому +3

    Completely agree with everything you've said I wish I hadn't bought some of rivets stuff like wcl E to G and the steam add on for wcl but haven't bought any of there products since and refuse to unless they sort there products out

  • @TheTimmynatoRex
    @TheTimmynatoRex 9 місяців тому +5

    "Steaming pile of modern Disney films"

  • @MTGP1525
    @MTGP1525 10 місяців тому +2

    I REALLY Want the full Island Line made in 1977 with both the class 485 & class 486 in BR Livery and the shuttle service from Ryde Pier Head To Ryde Esplande and NO Smallbrook Junction station (1990s)/Lake station (1987).

  • @lachlansrailwayproductions
    @lachlansrailwayproductions 9 місяців тому +3

    the 38 stocks trailer car lights don’t work as they can only be disabled by cutting out the power to the whole train

  • @benedekhalda-kiss9737
    @benedekhalda-kiss9737 10 місяців тому +6

    Dtg is on a massive downturn

  • @luispereira9999
    @luispereira9999 10 місяців тому +2

    The real problem is lack of competition and, although this is not a real issue, the target audience is casual gamers who are not real experts in the rail scene... this lets pass the shitty physics and repetitive gameplay...
    For me the worse part, it's the refusal of the developers going outside the usual countries, it completely kills the game for me... I couldn't be bothered moving from Train sim some-parts-of-the-world 2... every new route just feels "same-ish"..
    Love you videos thought, cheers for the other side of the World ;) (Portugal/Luxembourg)

  • @creatorpow2211
    @creatorpow2211 10 місяців тому +3

    Do you feel any of these DLCs would be worth it if purchased in a sale?

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  10 місяців тому +2

      Maybe the Arosa Line and its two gameplay packs.

  • @theaverageenjoyer9364
    @theaverageenjoyer9364 10 місяців тому +3

    Understandable that you didn't want to do a full review of the Kassel to Würzburg route. Its long and really not that interesting to actively pay attention to it. But i would love to hear your thoughts on exactly "why" you aren't interested in it at all. I am new to the rail commiunity so i actually thought it was quite good because its that long. xD
    And if i may request something, it would be a review of the Linke Rheinstrecke Mainz to Koblenz because its my home route, so i had to buy it. But i understand that its expensive and you don't so.. maybe if theres a sale someday? Would love to see it because you speak with so much enthusiasm and knowledge (seems that way to me at least) that i really value your opinions. You can criticise the stuff that i don't know sh** about or don't yet have the eye for. 😅

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  10 місяців тому +2

      The reason why I don't like Kassel to Wurzburg is because of just how boring it is. It's only got three stations, and most of the drive is spent rushing through long tunnels or across tall viaducts; there's not much in the way of scenery or service variation. To be fair, I still think it's impressive that DTG made a route that's over 100 miles long. Or at least, it would be impressive if the route was non-linear and you could do loads of different jobs on it (instead of just fast passenger trains or freight trains at night).
      As for Mainz to Koblenz, I've already got that route (picked it up during the Steam Winter sale, I think, although it's summer in the southern hemisphere). But I haven't had enough experience on that route to make a full review.

    • @markushellwig9600
      @markushellwig9600 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DC4260Productions
      The Schnellfahrstrecke is boring because the real route doesn't have any eyecandy as well. It's frankly a sequence of noise barriers, tunnels and high bridges over scenic valleys. Nothing to write home about.As a passenger, I know this route quite well, especially the part between (Hildesheim / Abzw Sorsum-) Kassel-Wilhelmshöhe and Fulda. Both station's look and feel is depicted quite accurate, even down to the powerline mast towering above one of Fulda's platforms.
      It's a shame that all of Fulda's branchlines, especially the Vogelsbergbahn to Gießen (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gie%C3%9Fen%E2%80%93Fulda_railway) was left out. Instead of the Niddertalbahn (which I really like), their depiction could have led to some nice traffic schemes.
      As for the ICE 1: The BR 401 IRL develops a distinctive low-frequent growling above 160 km/h and its soundpack reflects it quite good.
      All in all: A boring route's accurate rendition!

  • @Foxy_AR
    @Foxy_AR 10 місяців тому +1

    I don‘t own any TSW game and frankly, this is the reason why my interest in buying it has almost completely vanished.

  • @isleofwighttransport
    @isleofwighttransport 10 місяців тому +5

    To be honest I don’t play train sim world often now it’s a fucking joke

  • @perrieguilfoyle4390
    @perrieguilfoyle4390 10 місяців тому +2

    I wonder when the goblin line will be released

  • @TB76Returns
    @TB76Returns 7 місяців тому +2

    Are Rivet like this on their TS Classic DLCs too, as this video was about their TSW stuff

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  7 місяців тому

      I have little experience with Rivet's TSC add-ons, apart from Suburban Glasgow Northwest. I will be reviewing their Engadin Line route at some point, to see how it holds up compared to their TSW products.

  • @LeSpotteurFrançais
    @LeSpotteurFrançais 10 місяців тому +5

    I genuinely love the Edinburgh - Glasgow Express Route

    • @mrtrainandguy
      @mrtrainandguy 9 місяців тому

      You have to see how RG make not good route (Inc Morden Isle of wight) make it ugly linear,bad,or terrible sounds.So many players that hate rivert because of terrible details, river game have to be worse third party developer

  • @bulleid_productions
    @bulleid_productions 8 місяців тому

    What you were saying about Bahamas being the only Jubilee going down to Cornwall is now no longer true. On my channel, I have footage of Galatea as Sierra Leone racing through Newton Abbot, which is en route to cornwall.

  • @ethmister
    @ethmister 10 місяців тому +1

    I didnt even know they did the 204 its so irrelevant

  • @nigel6446
    @nigel6446 7 місяців тому

    I agree with you about Rivet’s quality. I was extremely disappointed with WCL having known the route since 1954, it is totally ludicrous in terms of accuracy and more like a fictional fantasy effort. They have no desire to correct it and I believe that the reason why is that they are not able to!!! Their designs on routes since have all missed the mark. Where they can replicate stations and locomotives well, they are just so unable to produce a quality route.

  • @azza-x3
    @azza-x3 10 місяців тому

    Me too man, it's a joke how they release different locomotives when it should be included in the dlc route but which is really sad how the routes feel so rushed and cut off quickly produced which is insane the train sim 4 dlc shouldve been extended to either London or York/Newcastle the thing is the London commuter was a great dlc package when it came out and the Blackpool dlc was okay too just the trains set within the 80's/90's era but it wasn't my cup of tea but a good dlc I'll admit

  • @tdurb0
    @tdurb0 9 місяців тому +1

    We’re basically paying again for a patched TSW2.
    Shame about Rivet, they made some good TS20xx routes back in the day. I think you’ve just saved me spending any money on Arosa

  • @matei5929
    @matei5929 10 місяців тому +2

    Are you going to review the WSR given the sale and the remaster?

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  9 місяців тому

      Yes. I caved when I saw that the WSR route was only $7.19 (NZD) in a sale.

    • @matei5929
      @matei5929 9 місяців тому

      @@DC4260Productions I can't blame you there

    • @nigel6446
      @nigel6446 7 місяців тому

      I like the WSR even before the upgrade. It a labour of love and fairly accurate.

  • @LazyGamerScotland
    @LazyGamerScotland 7 місяців тому +1

    Fife circle being the biggest let down yet

  • @CAMOGUY54321
    @CAMOGUY54321 10 місяців тому +3

    I stopped at tsw 3 and was waiting for a good US route. Now im watching as TSW X is crashing and burning. I really left the community due to the fan boys. Any little criticism you have they will freak out. Two of them being speedy and moron in the discussions tab.
    Fanboys are a huge reason the game is failing so badly, dtg sees them and thinks they like it and make more sh!t content. Meanwhile, the majority is leaving the game for good due to dtg and fanboys.

  • @theunknownwarrior632
    @theunknownwarrior632 10 місяців тому

    One thing that annoys me with dovetail and rivet is a new route with only one new piece of rolling stock, like it’s lacking and makes the experience of the route boring. Oh and the reissue of the 66 every route drives me nuts like where the 67, 68, 56, 57 and the 86/87 for wcml

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I agree. It's stupid to almost always see only one locomotive or unit included with a route these days (and DTG are maintaining the status quo with Gospel Oak to Barking Riverside, because of course they have to do that). I think the Ripple Lane container yard will be included on the route, so it's probably another excuse to rehash the overused 66.

    • @theunknownwarrior632
      @theunknownwarrior632 10 місяців тому

      @@DC4260Productions of course they have to do a route so short about 13 miles with the class 710 like why isn’t the 378 added as well as they are used a lot on the London Overground. It’s just another attempt at another cash grab and underwhelming route. The class 66 will be barely be used on the route as well mainly only for like 5 miles if not less. I’d be happy if they added the class 70 cause that does a lot of container freight but I doubt that’ll ever happen just a recycling of the boring ews class 66

  • @troygaston7039
    @troygaston7039 5 місяців тому

    They robbing people cause they only giving u half route and charging high rates where stream they give u full route

  • @shawnd-v1660
    @shawnd-v1660 4 місяці тому

    The only thing Rivet is good at is the vehicle models

  • @lopsitnuz4377
    @lopsitnuz4377 10 місяців тому

    i want the snow hill lines and wcml

  • @Northerner_Transport_Hub
    @Northerner_Transport_Hub 10 місяців тому +4

    1:38
    A. Jeez dude, railtour companies send locos all over the country to territories where they wouldn't be seen, cases in point, Sir Nigel Gresley at Crewe on the West Coast Main Line to Carlisle, 44871 and 45231 'The Sherwood Forester' AND 46115 'Scots Guardsman' going into rival territory at York, with the pair of black fives taking the rival Easf Coast Main Line.
    Besides, Black Fives and Royal Scots are common(ish) visitors to Cornwall on railtours, not forgetting that you mentioned Bahamas also went there in 2021.
    Also, you say its a reskin pack, when you also get a Christmas light train which has illuminated coaching stock, which would be useful for running on the West Somerset Railway, as they do it there. I've unsubscribed because recently I hardly find you saying anything good at all in your reviews. I don't own TSW4, but I have played all 3 games before it plus TSW4 itself, especially on some of the routes you seem to have issues with. Personally, I don't see any glaring issues with them, but I feel you could inject a little bit more positivity into your videos.

  • @luarvikluarvik4276
    @luarvikluarvik4276 16 днів тому

    Agree 100%

  • @TheFriar1966
    @TheFriar1966 15 днів тому

    I have grabbed the tsw 5 starterpack to "upgrade" my TSW 4but i haven't played it yet.
    And to be honest, im seriously considering kicking it off my computer and not play it until i hear that DTG starts to right all the wrongs.
    But i think i got more chance to win a lottery or getting struck by lightning than to see that happen.
    The problem is that there is almost no alternative trainsim that's better than TSW.
    Run8 has realistic train operations but is solely American based, and the graphics suck big time.
    Not to mention that you have to own a credit card to even buy it.
    If only the gameplay of Run8 and the graphics from TSW could be combined, what an kickass trainsimulator TSW would be, leaving the "competition" (that they don't have now) eating their dust.
    But because of lack of competition DTG is getting away with this shit and people still buying this game and addons.
    They can do so much better, then why they stubbornly refuse to do so!!!!!!

  • @_SimOke_
    @_SimOke_ 4 місяці тому

    S-Bahn Zentralschweiz is so bad I couldn't believe it
    I've bought it for one reason and one reason only: ETCS... AND THEY BASICALLY MASSACRED IT
    It had ONE selling point. ONE and it failed to deliver
    ETCS is so bad it's not even funny. The amount of inconsistentcies and errors there are is just insane
    Add to that the restrictive nature of ETCS and you have the worst mix of all: no fun, no realism, no running, just pain of forced braking for no reason
    Want ETCS? Play Simrail or Zusi. DO NOT BUY THIS DLC
    Flirt 1? It's alright at best. Scenery? Average at best
    The line itself? Booooooring
    Service? On the surface it's interesting: both local and express with some depot movements
    But each and every one of them is the same... You played one of them you played them all
    This dlc makes me sad. I didn't expect much, except ETCS, but it managed to disappoint in every single way
    3/10, 5/10 if you play without safety systems enabled