Brompton vs Tern folding bike - Which is the Best?

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
  • ➡️ABOUT THIS VIDEO: This is a comparison between Brompton and Tern folding bikes. Should you spend $1500 on a Brompton folding bike or $600 on a Tern folding bike? Both have different advantages and how to fold folding bikes. Let's see which brand is better now. Tim and Beth of Bike@Vienna discuss the differences. If you would like to test ride go to www.bikesatvienna.com to contact this bike shop.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 258

  • @RideandShineBicycling
    @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +4

    Which one do you like best? Let us know👇

    • @BobRooney290
      @BobRooney290 2 роки тому +4

      i like the electric version, but $4,000 is hilariously out of this world expensive. might as well buy a car instead.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      @@BobRooney290 I haven't tried the electric version yet.

    • @lorena.gianoni
      @lorena.gianoni 2 роки тому +4

      I own a Brompton M6R 2018 model. Zero issues so far. 10300 kms. I've replaced the hinge plates, chain, and handlebar grips, nothing else. I don't ride in the rain. I haven't replaced the rear hinge spindle. I was planning on doing that when I reached 10k kms, but I read on their data sheet: "On used bikes, slight play can be expected at the rear hinge; if the play is unacceptable (more than 2mm in either direction, at the rear wheel axle) the rear hinge bushes need to be replaced." and I'm within that limit, so I don't think it's necessary to touch it. Do you agree? how often do you change the triangle hinge spindle and bushes for your customers? Thanks! ❤greetings from Uruguay 🇺🇾

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +3

      @@lorena.gianoni I consulted my Brompton specialist and they said “ it sounds like the rear frame is fine. We have only had to replace the rear hinge bushings a dozen times in the past decade or so, and we are the main Brompton dealer in the D.C. area. I personally have done it twice, one of the times on my 2002 dumpster Brompton I restored a few years back. As long as the frame is within the 2mm of wiggle, it is fine. We only replace it when the wiggle is more obvious like a happy dog wagging its tail. “
      Hope that helps!

    • @lorena.gianoni
      @lorena.gianoni 2 роки тому +2

      @@RideandShineBicycling excellent, thanks!

  • @nathansharp3193
    @nathansharp3193 Рік тому +6

    I know a couple that bicycled the perimeter of the United States on Bromptons. They are incredibly strong folding bikes! Not many 'normal' bicycles can ride with a heavy load that many miles without failure. They had very minor issues and none involving Brompton-specific components.
    I'm a mechanic along the Southern Tier and met them 5/8 of the way through their journey as they headed west on the southern border of the U.S.
    I will eventually own a Brompton because they truly are amazing.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому +1

      Wow! I love to hear that. I would like to bump into them. They sound like they have an interesting story.

  • @DoupleP-Px2
    @DoupleP-Px2 Рік тому +9

    Brompton just feels like an engineering masterpiece. I love it!

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому

      Yes! It’s like those amazing foldable phones. I would love to visit the Brompton factory one day.

  • @SM-dt1pr
    @SM-dt1pr 2 роки тому +19

    I got a Brompton because it had to fit in the boot (trunk) of my MX5 (Miata). I have a 10km (6 mile) ride after I park my car - and it's great.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +7

      You are not going to find many bikes fitting in the trunk of a Miata. That's is pretty fantastic.

    • @kuro2233
      @kuro2233 4 місяці тому

      Oh wow this is great news for me as a Miata ND user

  • @tongmiranda9707
    @tongmiranda9707 2 роки тому +20

    I go with Tern..Bigger wheels is my key decision...No issues at all...

  • @MrCasparcash
    @MrCasparcash 8 місяців тому +3

    For my purposes: Tern D8.
    I use it as a part-time touring bike for traveling. The Tern can carry my gear of about 15 Kg, including tent etc. I don't do large tours, I guess 60 Km was the furthest. So it gets me to places. The nice thing is that I can take trains and buses too. And stay mobile everywhere. In 2022, I spent four months in France, Italy and Greece. The Tern is really tough, a little heavier though. But it is a good compromise.

  • @roxy4877
    @roxy4877 3 роки тому +20

    Tern D8 for me… Larger wheel size and no traveling helped in my decision… The D8 lives in my SUV.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 роки тому +3

      ...and the price is easier on the pocketbook. Still, it is hard for me to decide. They both have great qualities.

    • @roxy4877
      @roxy4877 3 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling
      I agree. I really think Tern is an overall better machine. But I really like the persona around the Brompton and the handmade steel frames.

    • @iwanderaround8764
      @iwanderaround8764 2 роки тому +1

      @@roxy4877 bromptons longevity is famous built in a first world country by people who were trained for over a year to do each process required to make the bike…. Tern made in the sweatshop of the world

  • @Paul_Paula
    @Paul_Paula 2 роки тому +1

    We love our folding bikes, they both fit in our SUV to take them to the trails… you have a new subscriber.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      Wow! That is always nice to hear. Thanks for joining our biking community.

  • @danhoang6335
    @danhoang6335 2 роки тому +18

    Brompton with tiny 16 inch wheels makes the first few rides a very twytchy experience. Once you get used to the quick steering it becomes a fun bike to ride.

    • @effyleven
      @effyleven 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah..I thought the Brompton was a bit twitchy... for the first 10 minutes, riding it around in the bike shop. After that, when I was used to it, the ability to change direction in a hurry felt responsive, and lively.. like riding a colt instead of a carthorse. Nice.

    • @jazzfan7491
      @jazzfan7491 Рік тому +2

      Smaller wheels are a big help riding on city sidewalks

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  10 днів тому

      I feel silly responding to your comment years later. I just must have missed this one.😩 Love my Brompton too.

  • @gdwlaw5549
    @gdwlaw5549 Рік тому +1

    Brompton! It’s just fabulous. Never had a problem on the TGV train to paris .

  • @GeorgeAlexa
    @GeorgeAlexa Рік тому +1

    If you live in Northern Virginia or even parts of Maryland and are looking for bikes, you should see what the Bikes of Vienna offer.

  • @altair1983
    @altair1983 2 роки тому +2

    I was surprised how smooth and easy Brompton rides. it's surprisingly fast for the size. perhaps the only downside is noisy gearhub.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      Yes! You have to get use to that. At first I thought my Brompton was broken. Thanks for the comment.

  • @scholasticacooney6830
    @scholasticacooney6830 3 роки тому +2

    I bought a Bike Friday New World Tourister about six years ago. I am 5 feet 1 inch tall and it's the best-fitting bike I've owned - got a deal on a custom-made one. Bike Fridays are also made in the USA, in Oregon. The only problem is that the chain falls off when it's folded; maybe that has been re-engineered since I bought my bike. I love having it in my trunk and being able to take a spontaneous ride somewhere on a road trip.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 роки тому

      That is such a great idea for your road trips. Aren't the Bike Fridays heavy?

    • @scholasticacooney6830
      @scholasticacooney6830 3 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling I looked up the current NWT at the Bike Friday site b/c I have no idea how much mine weighs I suppose it's the same or similar to today's model: 45 pounds. Is that heavy? I dunno. I don't find it unwieldy. I'm not a strapping person and I have no trouble putting it into the trunk and taking it out.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 роки тому

      @@scholasticacooney6830 45 LBS. Seems heavy to me. You must be super strong!

    • @karlgw
      @karlgw 2 роки тому +2

      @@scholasticacooney6830 for comparison Bromptons weigh between about 9kg and 12kg depending on spec (or 16kg for the electric versions). That's about 20-26 pounds (35 pounds for electric) in imperial/American units

  • @IlIllllIlllIlllll
    @IlIllllIlllIlllll 2 роки тому +2

    this review shows exactly what I want to compare! thanks

  • @ZianlaoPlay
    @ZianlaoPlay Рік тому +1

    I owned Tern many years ago. Now I go for brompton because the folding machanism and light weight are far more real use.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому

      Good to know. Weight is definitely an issue for myself. Thanks for your perspective.

  • @douglasmckinley-sr1507
    @douglasmckinley-sr1507 6 місяців тому

    Brompton is not the only foldable for aircraft. The Helix has 23” wheels and fits into airline approved checked baggage (62” overall dimensions - 157 cm). One nice thing about the Brompton with the rack is when collapsed you are not rolling around on the dirty tires when inside. Another on the Brompton is chain is covered by the other wheel so you will not come in contact with the dirty chain. Toolkit and spare tire in frame, etc.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing that information about the Helix! It's always good to know about other options out there.

  • @jb-lu4vo
    @jb-lu4vo 2 роки тому +3

    It is a perfect bike well designed and excellent quality but with the wrong price although this video shows you how to buy a folding bike from another brand at a much more reasonable price. One thing about brompton bikes that I don't like besides the price are the extras that need to be added like a carry bag, or the handlebar bag, the tools, or the lights, or the luggage rack or the air pump to inflate the wheels, these are basic parts of the bike and are considered extras and you have to pay it separately and also with a super expensive price. It is a bike for rich people. There should be a way to test it before you buy it. Anyway thanks for the video and take care.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      This is great additional information. Thank you.

    • @midorinaam1
      @midorinaam1 2 роки тому

      Yeah good but very expensive. M planning to buy 3sixty

    • @jazzfan7491
      @jazzfan7491 Рік тому +1

      Yes for rich people in the superficial sense. The key point is a Brompton can replace a car in many cities. Thus for the right people it’s actually a huge money saver.

    • @onsendiva4695
      @onsendiva4695 11 місяців тому

      Love to know which folding bikes 'come with' a carry bag, handlebar bag and tools - and why would they be 'standard' rather than an add on - think the word you want is choice. The 6 gear Brompton comes with an air pump and as with most brands there are standard models with or without luggage racks (Tern D9 / Reise muller Birdy Touring) - same with Brompton - so the M6R 'comes with' a rack. There is a way to test it before you buy - see the video "2:08 what we recommend is that they come for a test" - and true for all Brompton dealers I have been to.

  • @acihawaii
    @acihawaii Рік тому +1

    I am purchasing a tern to ride in Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
    Felt Tern was the choice for distance, not certain for
    travel via SW Airlines?
    RR

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому +1

      Sounds wonderful. The Tern I think is too big for the overhead compartment but fine for checking it in it. For the Brompton, you need a Boeing 737 aircraft to fit in the overhead baggage compartment. We have an upcoming video about traveling with your bike. Thanks for watching.

  • @martinabest5801
    @martinabest5801 2 роки тому +1

    To me the Brompton looks like a little kids bike, without the training wheels. My friend brought a folding electric bike back from Germany many decades ago. It had regular sized tires and folded up quickly and quite small. She's long since sold it, but wish could buy a folding German bike where I live.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      Yes! you are so right.. people have told me it looks like a clown bike

    • @bromptinowner763
      @bromptinowner763 Рік тому

      Brompton actually rides like a normal bike, even if they don't look like they do, they're such fun !

    • @ge7sur3nka34
      @ge7sur3nka34 Рік тому

      @@bromptinowner763does it ride with normal speed?

  • @wcleong5584
    @wcleong5584 2 роки тому +5

    I am fr Malaysia.I own 3 Tern.X20,X18,and P18 (24" wheels) score 9.5/10 point.Brompton is only wins by its saiz. truly compact.can bring it in a meeting room,a public bus.but i never done with my Tern ! I will get one next.( Tern is only Okay to bring into train own house,office and shopping mall.some shop lot dont allow too)

  • @Alex-j3b6l
    @Alex-j3b6l Місяць тому

    Ваш канал - один з найкращих? Я нещодавно бачив Tern eclipse P20 і зацікавився цим брендом. Але скоріш за все куплю Brompton , бо проживаю в Лондоні і компактність велосипеда має важливу роль, якщо є бажання поїхати в автобусі, метро, або в спекотний вихідний день до моря, коли в поїзд майже нереально попасти із звичайним велосипедом, якщо сідаєш не на кінцевій зупинці. А для прогулянок по місту я використовую Trek dual sport 2.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Місяць тому

      Дякую за ваш коментар! Brompton дійсно ідеальний вибір для Лондона, враховуючи його компактність. Сподіваюсь, ви отримаєте багато задоволення від катання!

  • @bromptinowner763
    @bromptinowner763 Рік тому +1

    Own two Bromptons a B75 and a H6L, wondered what the weight is of the Tern? Is a good review Thanks x

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому

      Geez, that wasn't part of the video? That's bad... The Tern weighs approximately 26.7 lb or 12.11 kg. Thanks for asking.

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 2 роки тому +1

    Besides my "LightweightM6LXBrompton" I also own a Makita, folding bike, with a similar fold as the Tern! Heavy, yes, but with two ordinary Makita 18 volt tool batteries as extra power. But when riding it's more easy, of course, with the extra help shown as LEDs on its handlebar, and to be adjusted to your present needs. Its two batteries doesn't last that long, so for longer distances, I would bring some extra!
    My Lightweight has presently reached 9 kilo, with a lot of expensive titanium parts bought from mostly China, which may be used also, but beware that Brompton changes part sizes at intervals, so a Chain tensioner isn't just one model!!

  • @marcust.5754
    @marcust.5754 2 роки тому +7

    If you want a fast and comfortable bike that almost rides like a road bike go for the Tern P10. You'll also look much cooler than on a dull Brompton.👍

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, I got that impression that the Tern was more like riding a regular bike than the Brompton when I was reviewing it. Thanks for adding to the discussion.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +2

      You are taunting the Brompton fans... I bet they would want to dispute you. I hear different opinions from different sides. 😅

    • @cseosborn892
      @cseosborn892 Рік тому

      You are an absolute philistine without any aesthetic appreciation.

    • @marcust.5754
      @marcust.5754 Рік тому

      @@cseosborn892 😂

  • @KamilJay-ds2rs
    @KamilJay-ds2rs 3 місяці тому

    Such a tough decision, but I'm leaning towards Tern Vektron s10 because i wanna ride in forest on sundays.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 місяці тому

      That sounds like a great choice for your forest rides! Enjoy your ride.

  • @Emble64
    @Emble64 2 роки тому

    I loved spotting a Pino in this!

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      Good eye! I will be posting a video about them at some point. Thanks for watching.

  • @binjones
    @binjones 2 роки тому +4

    Great video. I love my Brampton’s for portability and comfort.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for that. It was fun to put together. The Brompton is a fun bike.

  • @debsmostexcellentadventure5353
    @debsmostexcellentadventure5353 2 роки тому

    What a lovely video,and channel.Hope you have a lovely 2022 and stay safe debs xx..

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      You too Debs!! Good luck to you with your channel. You have beautiful footage... I would love to visit that area one day. P.S. You are a brave woman to be camping out.

  • @joemusic2882
    @joemusic2882 Рік тому +1

    I was looking at Brompton bikes at REI yesterday. At $2,070 I had no choice but to pass.

  • @saltinigui
    @saltinigui Рік тому +2

    I have both: a Tern Link P9 and a Brompton S6R. Both great bikes with nice features. I do very long rides on both and I feel that my Tern has a better ride overall, but it was definitely not an entry level bike when new. It's lighter and the bigger wheels are more efficient. The Brompton is super nice, but the lack of gears is kind of annoying whe you're doing long miles and just can't find that sweet spot between two gears. BUT, I just love my Brompton anyway, sturdy, unbeatable fold, HUGE list of possible upgrades and an amazing support from the brand. I bought my used, made in june of 2015, and yet could register it to my name. A Brompton with a pair of 20's and an Alfine is in my list, to become my only bike.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому +1

      This is excellent information from a unique perspective. I do agree with you about the gears on the Brompton, it is my one annoyance. I am learning to love my Brompton and all its unique qualities. Also why would you want to change your hub on your Brompton? Thank you for this valuable comment.

    • @saltinigui
      @saltinigui Рік тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling mostly to fix the issue with finding the perfect gears. Everytime I go for longer rides (80 to 120Km) it gets really annoying, but overall I would prefer to spend more customizing my Brompton than buying another bike

    • @saltinigui
      @saltinigui Рік тому +1

      I forgot to mention that is the internal gears hub that I want to change, together with a titanium triangle. Won't be cheap, but after you start to love your ride nothing needs to make too make sense as long as it puts a smile on your face

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому +2

      @@saltinigui I am so glad you said this. I have been wanting to change some parts-the seat post, bolts etc. to make my Brompton lighter. Yes, it is costly for a minimum weight reduction, should I take the plunge? I think yes...it will put a smile on my face. Thanks for your wisdom!

    • @saltinigui
      @saltinigui Рік тому +1

      @@RideandShineBicycling as long as we don't go bankrupt, happiness is always the smart choice!

  • @AgustinWhittaker
    @AgustinWhittaker 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, great video!

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  6 місяців тому

      Glad you found it enlightening! Now, which bike are you going for?

  • @Andy5682fly
    @Andy5682fly 2 місяці тому +1

    The Tern is pratical and value for money in my opinion

  • @ibrahimballa6382
    @ibrahimballa6382 2 роки тому +1

    the way prombton fold is amazing it takes no space

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      I do agree that they are amazing. I just packed up a Brompton in my car and rode on a 20 mile gravel road ride with a Brompton and it was a beautiful ride with no issues.

  • @momotarusan
    @momotarusan 2 роки тому +2

    I purchased 2 Tern BYD few years ago, any suggestion for rear racks? Thanks.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  10 днів тому

      I feel silly responding to your comment years later. I just must have missed this one.😩

  • @damiangomila
    @damiangomila 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! Thanks for the info! I would love to have a Tern but too expensive for me

  • @hoser7706
    @hoser7706 3 місяці тому

    Rovers, Jaguars, and MGs were also engineered in the UK. 😬. Just saying “local” isn’t always better (or worse). Both seem great. Brompton for size when folded, Tern Link for “real bike” ride and (almost) speed.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 місяці тому

      It's true, sometimes the country of origin doesn't dictate quality. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  • @삼다수-b1q
    @삼다수-b1q 11 місяців тому +2

    When it comes to bicycles, riding performance is more important than folding function.

  • @reynaldol.deguzman3039
    @reynaldol.deguzman3039 2 роки тому

    You are absolutely right!

  • @frankfurter7260
    @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому +1

    I have an electric tern and I pulled up next to a guy on an electric brompton. The brompton is a toy. You gotta be nuts to navigate NYC streets with it. I also smoked him when the light changed. Vektron S10. 👍

  • @tdgdbs1
    @tdgdbs1 3 роки тому +3

    I fly with 20in folders regularly; simply remove the front wheel, pedals, seat. Tern, Dahon, Bike Friday NO PROBLEM!

  • @tomedward8652
    @tomedward8652 2 роки тому +3

    Bromptons might be expensive but if you are not happy with it you can sell it on for virtually the same price you bought for. Same cannot be said for the Tern.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      Wow! It didn't know that. That is great information to know. Thank you.

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling, the poster just invented that information. That’s what’s great about the internet. Everyone makes up whatever they want.

    • @effyleven
      @effyleven 2 роки тому

      Sell a Brompton for the same price you paid for it?
      Huh?
      During Covid lockdown I was offered *£350* ($470) *MORE* for my Brompton than I paid for it. And it isn't new anymore. Although I do keep it clean, I have ridden it every day that it didn't rain for the last 2 years, so it isn't exactly in mint condition.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      @@effyleven Lucky you. Thanks for adding to the conversation.

    • @tomedward8652
      @tomedward8652 2 роки тому

      @@effyleven - I was being generous ;) Law of supply and demand during Covid has made Brommies as rare as hens teeth.

  • @davidli2881
    @davidli2881 3 роки тому +2

    Dahon also is good bike, I bought cheap dahon broadwalk $220 around 15 years ago still working

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 роки тому +2

      I have heard about the Dahon, but I don't know much about them....mmmm... an idea for a video?

    • @wcleong5584
      @wcleong5584 2 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling Dohon is the father of Tern.Dohon also the no 1 folding bic in the world( rank by output ) No 1 bic in the world is Giant (all types of bic,including roadbic,mtb,folding etc.both of them are not the most expensive one.Their like Toyota car

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      @@wcleong5584 Interesting. Thank you for your comment

  • @runcycleskixc
    @runcycleskixc Рік тому +1

    A high-end Tern can accept proper gears (11-sp cassette, 2-chainring crankset)

  • @Yasmin-wq5jh
    @Yasmin-wq5jh 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, off topic but I am ashamed to say I dont know how to ride a bike but want to learn and I am considering buying a foldable bike, are foldables good for learners?

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +3

      Don't be ashamed! You are awesome to want to learn. This is why I do UA-cam videos. I want to empower more people to get out and ride a bike. One of the videos I did was on how to ride a bike. She used a foldable bike to teach how to ride. One of the important points is that balance is more important than learning how to pedal. The bike she used had foldable pedals. So learning on a Brompton by folding up the pedals might work. Practice kicking off the ground and balancing. Being able to fold the wheels up I would think you definitely could learn on a Brompton. When you are ready for pedals then unfold them. You can see how she demonstrated this here. ua-cam.com/video/oulYsTqCLn4/v-deo.html I will also ask a Brompton specialist this question too.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +2

      Here is what a Brompton specialist said:
      "Yes and no. The low frame and lower center of gravity are a plus, the livelier handling of the small wheels can be a minus. I'd say overall they're no worse and maybe a little better compared to a conventional bike." And another Brompton specialist said: "I have the same opinion. I would like to add that the convenience of being able to take the bike anywhere, and not worrying about locking it up is a plus for new riders."

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому +2

      No one should ever be ashamed of lacking a skill. The people that should be ashamed are those with abilities and opportunities who blow them off to watch UA-cam videos instead. If you are in the US, REI teaches how to ride a bike class for adults and the class is highly rated.

    • @jazzfan7491
      @jazzfan7491 Рік тому +1

      The very low step over height will make learning on a Brompton much less scary for many people

  • @horsenuts1831
    @horsenuts1831 2 роки тому +2

    It's 'horses for courses'. A Brompton can be stored in the most miniscule location, even under a desk and taking up the same width as a waste paper bin. The handling is definitely 'twitchy' when you first ride one, but if you get used to it, and then try to ride a mountain bike, it will feel like you are riding the actual mountain.
    I have had to do long distances on a Brompton, and at that point, they start to get to get a bit tiresome. Bromptons are perfect for the 'first and last mile' of a commute (indeed, I used to ride to the station, take it on the train, and then ride the last two miles in London, and it was perfect). If I had to ride 4 or 5 miles, I would want something slightly less twitchy and with more gears (i.e., a Tern).

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      ...actual mountain.🤣So far I have limited the Brompton to shorter rides or use it as a vacation bike. It is pretty amazing you can quickly throw it in to the back of the car and be on your way. The ease of it to bring it inside your hotel room oppose to locking it up on a bike rack has taken the worry out of traveling. Thanks for the comment.

  • @sin-bikech.7865
    @sin-bikech.7865 2 роки тому +2

    It's fun to compete for folding time.👍️👍️I'm trying to fold it in my bike(Tern) in 6 seconds.😊

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      6 seconds is almost world record.. My time is about 2 minutes. I have long way to go.

  • @molhuwmartins9723
    @molhuwmartins9723 Рік тому

    Great value, and comfortable to ride

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому

      You must be talking about the Tern. Brompton is a little pricey, but it also is a comfortable ride. Thanks for the comment.

  • @_vientodelnorte_
    @_vientodelnorte_ Рік тому

    Kwiggle is the best for air travel. Hand luggage size (55x40x25 cm) and 10 kg.

  • @daytriker
    @daytriker Рік тому +1

    It would have been more apples to apples to compare the Brompton to the Tern BYB

  • @BromptonFamilyTime
    @BromptonFamilyTime 3 роки тому +1

    👍🏼 great video!

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! They are fantastic bikes that have opened up a new world for me.

  • @rider2731
    @rider2731 2 роки тому +7

    Being made in the UK doesn’t mean they are better. China makes all kinds of products with different qualities. My DJI drones, golf sticks, iPhone, Bosch battery, and camera lenses were all made in China. Their qualities are second to none.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks for the comment. I didn't want to imply that UK makes better products I think it was just a statement of fact of where each product was produced.

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому +2

      Add Covid-19 which also comes from China and is a robust quality coronavirus second to none.

  • @RomaLilikAndrian
    @RomaLilikAndrian 2 роки тому +2

    What!! Are you sure brompton is faster than tern to folding?

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      The video wasn’t implying that Brompton was faster. It was just stating that it was just folded in record time of 6 sec. You have a good point with the comparison issue of which one folds faster.

  • @nodrog777
    @nodrog777 2 роки тому +18

    Brompton is the bike to go for if you need 1) ultimate foldability; 2) ultimate portability; 3) great engineering; 4) well-integrated baggage options (the front block is essential for this); 5) excellent residual value (after 5 years, the average Brompton will have retained around 75-80% of its value, while the Tern will, essentially, be landfill). Also, it's worth noting that the Brompton has something of a fanatical following, so there are a lot of after-market parts and accessories available to improve weight, performance, looks etc. In short, the Brompton is the better option.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      That is great information. Thank you.

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому +1

      @@RideandShineBicycling I get it now. People post nonsense you reply with great news. Now I block your channel. Regards from NYC.

    • @onsendiva4695
      @onsendiva4695 11 місяців тому +1

      @@frankfurter7260 Good riddance

    • @dorianblue4229
      @dorianblue4229 9 місяців тому +1

      @nodrog77 all the reasons you've listed are just good NOT to choose the Brompton over any other (good) folding bike, because the others are actual bikes, while the Brommie is a piece of old metal you might just as well buy a jewel and invest in gold or antiques. Yes it rides but it's NOT a proper bike. I've ridden Dahons and the likes for 15 years now daily, well tested Bromptons too, and I do 200 km rides on my biked but i would NOT do them on a Brompton. On a train? Alright, i'll do with just a few centimetres more, well worth the payback

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 8 місяців тому +4

      In 5 years the Tern will be Landfill? I've had my Tern Verge X20 for 9 years..and My Tern Verge X11 for 3 years. And both have required very little maintainance. They are made from quality parts. That LAST. The only thing I've had to change on the X20 in 9 years is the tyres,tubes and brake pads.
      The Tern Verge X20 is the best folder overall that's ever existed. The problem. Is label slaves think Brompton is all there is for folders
      And it's got more credit and obsession than it deserves. Just like Say Rolex gets in the watch world. When there are Others just as good if not better..
      I will take the Tern Verge X20 over any Brompton. Its a marvel of engineering and lasting quality. Fast. Climbs hills like they dont exist. And light. With 20 speeds.

  • @dorianblue4229
    @dorianblue4229 9 місяців тому

    15 years on folding bikes. In short:
    Brompton folds well and comes short in any other field.
    ALL other (good) bikes are proper bikes. You can even easily get multiple front chainrings. The components are mostly those of the big common bikes. You may have to ship them when travelling by plane, but all the rest of the tour will be an actual ride. Nuff said

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much for your informative comment. I do like the emphasis on 'ALL other (good) bikes are proper bikes'. There are a lot of subpar knockoffs out there.

  • @Dreamseeker911
    @Dreamseeker911 2 роки тому

    Sick! Cool.

  • @ChristisLORD333
    @ChristisLORD333 2 роки тому +1

    You should have mentioned how much quicker the tern is and lighter much lighter.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      You are right..and weight is such a big factor for me. In my next review, I will include it. Thanks for pointing that out.
      I was just asked to do a review on a 68lb. bike... I can't even lift it. Not sure if that is going to happen.

    • @onsendiva4695
      @onsendiva4695 11 місяців тому

      Is it - which models are you comparing? He states above the Tern in the review is 26.7 lb or 12.11 kg - the Brompton varies (as do the terns) but a popular Brompton such as the M6L which weighs in at around 11.8kg (which is either the one the review or very similar) .. so you'll need to clarify what you mean by 'much lighter'. As for 'quicker' .. who knows - love to see a properly done test

  • @kayjay309
    @kayjay309 Рік тому

    Its such a hard choice... its 2 best options out there

  • @Brandon-xp1ob
    @Brandon-xp1ob 2 роки тому +3

    Unless you need absolute maximum portability get a Tern. No disrespect to the Brompton but the tern is a better riding bike and can be gotten less expensive.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      I’m Switzerland

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому

      The Tern electric bikes (with the Bosch motor) cost more than the Brompton’s. And with good reason too.

  • @handsonbrompton7875
    @handsonbrompton7875 2 роки тому

    Cool vidéo 👍

  • @Gogogordy1
    @Gogogordy1 2 роки тому +3

    Terns’ well documented spontaneous weld failures on some specimensof their bikes a few years back will keep me from ever purchasing one of their bikes even if they have corrected corrected that safety issue.
    Also the history behind Tern bikes origin as a company isnt my cup of tea either. Just my opinion.
    Brompton is an amazing bike…16” wheels and all. We own two of them.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      Interesting. Thanks for the comment.

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому +3

      On that theory I guess you can’t fly any airline that uses Boeing planes. 🧐

    • @Gogogordy1
      @Gogogordy1 2 роки тому +1

      @@frankfurter7260 did you notice I said “me” in my comment? You are free to buy/ride any bicycle or fly in any aircraft you wish to.

  • @kostyafedot551
    @kostyafedot551 6 місяців тому

    I mostly see Bromptons, Terns are rare. Toronto, Canada and now Liege, Belgium.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  6 місяців тому

      It's interesting how certain bike brands dominate in different regions!

  • @Lbrto
    @Lbrto 3 роки тому

    Brompton is 16" while the Tern is 20," am I correct?
    I think it's like comparing apples and oranges.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 роки тому +1

      It just depends on what ride experience you are looking for.

    • @karlgw
      @karlgw 2 роки тому

      yes, correct. But both of those units can be misleading as there are at least 2 "20-inch" and 2 "16-inch" tyre and rim sizes. Better to go with the unambiguous ISO (formerly ETRTO) numbers, which are 349 for the Brompton and 406 for the Tern (the other "20-inch" size is 451 and the other "16-inch" size is 305). The two "16-inch" sizes are mutually incompatible and a 305 tyre will not fit a 349 rim. The same goes for the two "20-inch" sizes

  • @fender1000100
    @fender1000100 Рік тому +3

    Why are people so concerned about how long ìt takes to fold a bike? Be more concerned about how fast it can move and how it feels to ride.
    The Tern Verge X11 smokes any Brompton. If you want to do a proper premium comparison. For a 2k bike.
    Brompton will always be the best folder for portability. But not everyone needs to take a bike on a plane or bus.
    And with a bike like an X11 you can go as fast as a bus. So you won't need to worry about getting on one. My X11 averages 22mph. And I've hit 30mph on it in the right conditions. They call it light speed for a reason.

  • @baxbanny7732
    @baxbanny7732 2 роки тому

    a good buy for the cash

  • @tjj5337
    @tjj5337 2 роки тому

    ❤️❤️ Brompton #1👍

  • @StefanZeder
    @StefanZeder Рік тому

    I have a Tern Verge X11. With only 10 kg it's very light! Also there are high-end components on this bike! It's super fast and climbs any hill very easy. Also it folds very easy and is small enough to fit anywhere you need it. The Bromptons look terrible in my opinion and so far i have not seen one biker that can can keep up with my Tern! And the prices of the Bromptons are insane and not justifiable in any way!

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому +1

      We have had positive opinions on both sides. It is quite interesting. The Tern has a bigger wheel that could help with the speed. I think the Brompton justifies its price due to it all being handmade. Thanks so much for your perspective. I have ridden both on different terrains one can be better than the other in different situations.

    • @onsendiva4695
      @onsendiva4695 11 місяців тому

      Nice to know - perhaps tone down the volume a bit - on the other hand why not go for it and put it in CAPS as well to add to the exclamation marks!

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  11 місяців тому

      Ha! Ha! Thanks for the comment.@@onsendiva4695

  • @clee6746
    @clee6746 Рік тому

    Tern - Easy to ride and on the wallet when comparing with Brompton. Brompton - Easy to fold and to carry.

  • @hobocyclist
    @hobocyclist 2 роки тому +1

    did i see a bickerton hanging on the wall?

    • @tymncycle
      @tymncycle 2 роки тому

      Yes, you did.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      I asked the shop owner of Bikes@Vienna and he said whoever asked about it has good eyes, we do in fact have a Bickerton hanging in the shop, right near the Brompton display.👍

  • @Mr71paul71
    @Mr71paul71 Рік тому

    The young lady could read the phone book and it would still be worth watching

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Рік тому

      You are too funny.

    • @Mr71paul71
      @Mr71paul71 Рік тому +1

      Thank you, but that said it is a interesting video as I'm in the market for a Brompton for touring out my usual area. And such a bike will be perfect to carry on the bus

  • @TheJohnreeves
    @TheJohnreeves Місяць тому

    I don't know, if the ride experience was the most important factor I wouldn't be looking at a folding bike.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Місяць тому

      It's true that ride experience varies with different types of bikes. Folding bikes can be quite versatile, though!

  • @lsamoa
    @lsamoa 2 роки тому

    Can you roll a folded Tern bike?

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      Yes! It does seem a little easier than a Brompton too.

    • @lsamoa
      @lsamoa 2 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling Thank you!

  • @joemusic2882
    @joemusic2882 Рік тому +1

    Shout out to the super cute girl ❤️❤️

  • @karimmohamed5687
    @karimmohamed5687 2 роки тому

    Love your becycle

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for joining in our biking community!

    • @karimmohamed5687
      @karimmohamed5687 2 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling how much price bike

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      @@karimmohamed5687 Tern can run about $600 and up and the Brompton runs about $1600 and up. If you saw my Brompton purchasing video at the end I go over all the extras I bought and the price I paid for the Brompton. $2000. Prices definitely can vary.

    • @karimmohamed5687
      @karimmohamed5687 2 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling haw in euro ?

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      @@karimmohamed5687 Sorry that was in dollars, but I think the ratio is close to 1 to 1.

  • @chitochu
    @chitochu 2 роки тому +1

    hay mejores bicicletas para compararlas con la brompton...obviamente contra la term gsna la brompton

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      ¿Que sugieres?

    • @chitochu
      @chitochu 2 роки тому

      Ori, cualquiera de sus modelos

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      @@chitochu Haré otro video en el futuro sobre otros modelos cuando entreviste a la tienda de bicicletas Brompton. Gracias por los comentarios.

  • @kostyafedot551
    @kostyafedot551 6 місяців тому

    Where is American manufacturer of plane ready bikes. Known as Bike Friday. Not overpriced as Brompton and even Tern have become.

  • @elopez350
    @elopez350 2 роки тому +1

    Brompton

  • @yukohiro7161
    @yukohiro7161 2 роки тому

    The BYB isn't as comfortable as the Brompton for me. Plus it's not as good for narrow city streets and sidewalks

  • @Lem0nIlja
    @Lem0nIlja 2 роки тому

    If brompton had a belt drive, it would dominate. Alas.

  • @havenht
    @havenht 2 роки тому +3

    20" wheels is always better than 16" wheels

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +4

      Not if you are traveling on a plane.🙃

    • @havenht
      @havenht 2 роки тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling Base on your logic than you should get a 5 inches wheels. I flew with my tern all the time with my problem.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      @@havenht That is great information to know. Thank you. I think with me personally it comes down to weight.

  • @Muddy283
    @Muddy283 Рік тому

    _"The fastest fold ever recorded was just under 6 seconds."_
    In point of fact: No. Here is a Bromtpon fold in 4.44": ua-cam.com/video/Z-SRASKLqh8/v-deo.html

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  7 місяців тому

      Wow! Wow! Wow!

    • @Muddy283
      @Muddy283 7 місяців тому

      @@RideandShineBicycling Quite! 😎 (until I saw this fold, I thought I was quite fast!! Nope.)

  • @effyleven
    @effyleven 3 місяці тому

    The Tern is a fine bicycle... until you want to fold it up.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  3 місяці тому

      At first folding it up is like solving a puzzle. But eventually you get the hang of it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  • @giotsisnosbi9221
    @giotsisnosbi9221 2 роки тому

    Not accurate video. The folding time depends at the person ho do it. My opinion is better the Tern , DaHon etc.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому

      Yes, I agree it does depend on who folds it. I am unbelievable slow at folding it.

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus 2 роки тому

    This is a Brompton add. Buyer beware. Tern is next level. Dont get small dia wheels. Larger rides lots better. Brompton is overpriced for what it is.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  2 роки тому +1

      No, it is not an ad. We do not represent either of the companies. We are giving a fair analysis of both bikes. In fact, We like them both it just depends on what you will be doing with each of the bikes.

  • @normal8295
    @normal8295 Рік тому +1

    Tern is best

  • @Beantowndude
    @Beantowndude 2 роки тому

    There’s great folding bike companies from Singapore that should be reviewed like birdy and Mobot bikes great competition to brompton and about the same price wise if not a little less

  • @PMC-Japan
    @PMC-Japan 10 місяців тому

    Tern are made in Taiwan.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  10 місяців тому

      Taiwan is part of China, so we are both right. Thanks for the comment.

    • @PMC-Japan
      @PMC-Japan 10 місяців тому +2

      @@RideandShineBicycling Taiwan is a separate country.

  • @noellagdameo3033
    @noellagdameo3033 2 роки тому +1

    Bias

  • @thewaywardcyclist3992
    @thewaywardcyclist3992 2 роки тому

    i'd buy a china made "brompton" for significantly lower price

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому +1

      Maybe not cost effective over time when it falls apart while riding and you wind up in the hospital.

    • @thewaywardcyclist3992
      @thewaywardcyclist3992 2 роки тому +1

      @@frankfurter7260 i did my research and this brand is pretty solid n quite popular. In my country its the currency exchange which makes the brompton so expensive, the quality is pretty much the same as china made bikes

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  10 днів тому

      I feel silly responding to your comment years later. I just must have missed this one.😩 I had one too. It has held up just okay.

  • @BlackyBrownDestruction9337
    @BlackyBrownDestruction9337 2 роки тому +3

    Tern hinges are breakable plastic that can't be replaced

    • @frankfurter7260
      @frankfurter7260 2 роки тому +6

      This is what is called fake news. I have a Tern Vektron S10. LOL that the hinges are plastic. What a stupid comment.

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  10 днів тому

      I feel silly responding to your comment years later. I just must have missed this one.😩

  • @petitemonsoon1238
    @petitemonsoon1238 10 місяців тому +1

  • @PutaLatieff
    @PutaLatieff 11 місяців тому

    which tern model is that?

  • @ChunWang-vb7yu
    @ChunWang-vb7yu Місяць тому

    KHS

    • @RideandShineBicycling
      @RideandShineBicycling  Місяць тому

      KHS? Is that the secret code for “Keep Having Fun”? Because that’s what we’re all about here!