How fast is a Brompton?
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Find out the speed difference between a Brompton and a similarly price Road Bike.
We will assume both riders have the same weight, use the same tire type and apply the same power input. We evaluate the speed differential for casual riders as well as performance riders.
00:00 Introduction
00:22 CHPT3 speed
01:25 Drivetrain / Chain
02:12 Drivetrain / Derailleur
03:02 Drivetrain / Internal Hub
04:28 Rolling Resistance
07:01 Speed Difference (Casual Riders)
07:58 Aerodynamics
09:02 Speed Difference (Performance Riders)
09:42 Take Away
References:
www.bicyclerollingresistance....
www.gribble.org/cycling/power... [Cycling Power]
www.ihpva.org/HParchive/PDF/hp...
www.ihpva.org/HParchive/PDF/hp...
Bicycling Science, Fourth Edition, D.G Wilson, MIT Press, 2020
#Brompton #2bikes4adventure
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- Music: The Day is Close - The 126ers
- Derailleur Bicycle Drivetrain CC BY-SA 3.0 Wikipedia, Keithonearth
![Downhill with a Brompton [safely]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LFZT9NaxLxA/mqdefault.jpg)
Wow, what have I stumbled upon here? Expecting a cozy Brompton bike channel made by a friendly elderly couple, proceeds to be an absolutely STELLAR explanation of advanced bicycle riding physics. The friendly and clear narration, the positive yet calm music, the consistent and considerate use of standard units (and their translation), the absolutely mindblowing animation (so clear, so detailed!), all of that in one great package. Rarely have I been this impressed by content on UA-cam; thank you so much.
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super +1 on this, I was incredibly surprised by the quality of this content!
As a rider of both, I found this very informative. Thanks! You forgot scenario 3 where the Brompton rider decides they don't feel up to the 60km ride, spends a very efficient 30 seconds folding up their bike and hopping on a train to the destination, and having several celebratory beers and a full course meal before the road cyclist reaches the destination. This is one reason why, although loving my road bike, I'll never get tired of my Brompton!
Hahahaha excellent!
I love this 3rd scenario… 😂🍻
True appreciation of the speed they are capable of.
@クリス Yeah Chris: The thing with a Brompton is it's foldability.
Yeah, comparing a folding bike to any road or even racing bike, is never going to make the folding bike look good. The big advantage of a folding bike is that you can fold it and take it with you on a train. Bike to the station, hop on a train, and then bike the last mile to your destination. I bet that's going to be a lot faster than any road bike.
How can anyone condense so much information in such a pleasant and engaging video, with a perfectly written script and beautiful animations... I am stunned! There's no one else on the face of this planet even attempting to make such informative videos on YT, I'm glad we have the two of you!
Funny, my mother was saying the same thing 😀
The videos produced by Brilliantbikes are also very informative, with a slightly different but very helpful perspective.
This is how math teachers make learning come alive and relatable to real life.
No kidding :-). I iNSTANTLY fell asleep :-)
Wow, this is a Sheldon Brown level of both very detailed physics information and a presentation that makes it very accessible. Great job!
^ so much this. Sheldon Brown must be smiling from the unknown place in the universe he inhabits nowadays. Cycle heaven?
Wow made me miss Sheldon Brown all of a sudden. He would have had a flourishing UA-cam channel transferring all the written articles he wrote to videos.
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It's the sound track.
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me too!
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I'm pleaseantly disappointed as well 😊
I've seen dozens of videos explaining all of this in one form or another, but this was the best and clearest explanation I have ever seen. Thank you for putting this together. Your teaching and illustrating skills are amazing.
I am so going to use this in my Physics class this year! I teach about rolling resistance and aerodynamics, but always in relation to cars. The info graphics and info here are absolutely fantastic. Thank you!
Stay tuned, a new “physics lesson” video coming up shortly.
Holy moly! I'm really into this stuff inside the competitive cycling world and I watch all the youtube channels that are for "serious" or more racing oriented people and this content is 1000 times better presented, more useful, and more scientific than what I normally come across. I also learned a few new things. Amazing video!
This video is absolutely incredible! Thank you so much for producing this kind of content.
Holy cow, this is the best explanation of bikes on youtube
My goodness, this is absolutely stunning stuff. Production value!
This was the most detailed video on this subject i have seen. Well done
This video is a gem. Very well researched and a master class on what influences speed on whichever bicycle. Very well done!
Amazing video and explanation! More than what i expected for sure! Thanks for the effort and beautiful illustrations
Fantastic graphics. Brilliantly researched and presented. Well done!
The best video on the topic I've seen so far. Thank you!
Fantastic video packed full of great information. Thank you!
Easily one of the best explanations of the factors affecting bicycle performance I've ever seen! Five thumbs up! And thanks!
Stay tuned, more to come shortly
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This is an amazingly well structured and informative video. My mind is blown - thank you!
Brilliantly explained. Both the bicycle enthusiast and physics teacher were completely engaged. Thanks.
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Stay tuned, more technical videos to come.
This is shockingly well put together
Learned so much from this video. Thanks for putting this together.
So much effort behind this video, thank you for your hard work!!
Still the comfort and the convenience of the Brompton seems like a fair trade-off.
This is the best explanation and with a very good use of graphics to make understanding easy.
What an excellent and very understandable explanation on the different efficiencies of both bikes. Well presented, thank you.
this is the most educational video about bicycle that i found on the internet, thanks for producing this kind of content
Wow I clicked this video out of curiosity and came away genuinely surprised and pleased by how informative it is! Thank you! Learned a good deal about bicycle mechanics
Stay tuned for more to come.
Extremely well researched and presented. thanks!
Thank you for a very informative and well made video! Absolutely loved it!
What a delightful instruction and diagram set. Kudos!
Even a road bike rider could be benefitted by this video,awesome job!
Stunning vid. Thanks for this accurate analysis.
Very informative and well put together
Amazing video, incredibly informative! Thanks for sharing!
Wow this was wonderfully informative. Way beyond what I expected when clicking on the vid. I ride a Mountain Bike primarily for cardio calorie burn, it's better for my purposes than a road bike because about 1/4 of my daily circuit is off of the paved roads. I have a salvaged BMX that I use for my backup bike (when the primary bike is down with a flat, etc. and I don't have time to fix it before my riding window) - and I'm planning to replace my BMX with a Brompton style folding ebike, so was doing some research on how they ride. This was a great vid, thanks for diving deep in your analysis. Have an awesome weekend!
Wow, this was an unexpected pleasure. Great video!
Really informative. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the great video, really professionally made
This is just fantastic! Love how you break it down into straight physics. Thanks for this amazing analysis...has applications to a lot of types of riding!
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That has got to be the most wonderfully presented explaination on this topic that I have ever seen (and I have seen LOTS!).
The slow pace of transition from one frame to the next, and the moderate pace and the very clear diction of the narrator meant that I understood everything without having rewind or replay numerous time.
Added to that was the calming backing track and the dulcet tones of the narrator.
A joy! ❤️
I really do think the narrator would make a great living doing voice-overs or making instructional videos for a variety of clients.
Awesome.
Thanks.
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Thank you, the same voice narrates our complete video library, for your listening pleasure.
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Amazingly well done video. Thank you!
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I'm always so happy to see your videos! They're so detailed, well researched, and your graphics are excellent. I was watching your video and my husband overheard and was immediately fascinated. He's an engineer so it totally appealed to him. =)
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Wow, love this video. Now I know why I prefer to tour on my Brompton; more time to smell the roses.
Amazingly in depth video
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Perfect explained! Thank you.
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I did not expect this when clicking on the video thumbnail. Needless to say, the video completely blew me away, too!
Wow. That was very interesting and puts it all in perspective. Thanks.
Great analysis , good job
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The animations are awesome as well 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Oh my good god! Learn something new everyday...thank you Mme Pam!
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What an EXCELLENT video! EXCELLENT graphics, EXCELLENT physics, beautifully illustrated and narrated. And about 500% better than I was expecting! Thank you so much!
And a special bonus someone who can actually pronounce derailleur in French! Now that Brompton has a 4-speed derailleur we lose the friendly Sturmey-Archer 2nd gear, I think. All the best, Rob in Switzerland
Hi Rob. The 4speed derailleur (insert french pronunciation here) will be more efficient and lighter than the Sturmey-Archer (for a similar gear range), but at a substantial increase in cost. We will keep our 6 speed for now.
really excellent video. Thanks!
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Welcome to the channel. Stay tuned for more.
What an educational video. I don't ride a Brompton or any other fold away bike but I do ride a flat handle-barred so called hy-brid. I have 3 cranks and 7 speeds at the back being 28, 38 & 48 over 34, 24, 21, 18, 15, 13 & 11. I know intuitively that I will always lose out to "racers" because of their aerodynamics - but i just wanted to say that even though I don't have either of the 2 bike types mentioned in the video, I learned something. The most important thing is to get a bike you like and enjoy riding it. My friends keep bugging me to buy a racer - but I just prefer "sit up and beg" over bending forwards for hours looking through my eyebrows! The main thing is that cycling is healthy and good for the environment. Happy safe cycling everyone. Have a great Xmas & 2022!
Hi Paul. The important is to enjoy the freedom it provides, what ever shape or form it has.
Awesome video! great content
this was unexpectedly informative, thanks!
Stay tuned for more videos
Wow, I didn't expect such scientific and detailed review, nice one!
You are so amazing with your videos and physics lessons! Bravo!
Nice diagrams. Keep making the great content.
Fascinating video, thank you.
This is the most awesome video I’ve seen on this
Wow this is the most detailed and well explained video I have seen on bicycle power efficiency, very impressed and unexpected. Honestly speechless.
Stay tuned for more (and/or watch some of our previous Brompton-related technical videos)
The best tire review for 16 349 . Thanks !
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Awesome video! Thanks a ton!
Excellent work. Thanks for a great explanation of why I prefer my road bike with panniers over my Brompton in even short commutes to work- except for the cool factor in riding the Brompton, which is worth several km per hour!
I stumbled upon this video after viewing GCN's Brompton vs road bike video. Thank you very much for this well montaged explanatory video.
Too bad GCN’s video wasn’t on a flat road (could have been used to confirm (or disprove) our calculation).
@@2Bikes4Adventure I think no challenge as the road bike will obtain a faster top speed
I clicked on this video hoping to learn something yes...but I wasn't expecting was a whole ass maths lecture lol. In all honesty, thank you for this insightful video. Safe ride everyone!
wow, this is a master degree essay, thanks a lot
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Amazing Video. So much information
What a brilliant piece of work. There has long been the "Bromptons are dead slow " type comments, but your calculations stack up with what I have found in practice. My P6R and old 1980s 5 speed "racer" show differences in average speed in the 1.5 to 2.0 mph range. Pretty close to your calculations. I must add though it depends greatly on the rider, when commuting on my Brompton I used to enjoy passing the lycra clad fancy road bike riders and wishing them good morning etc 😁 Can't do that anymore sadly!!!
Hi Terry. Older roadies are probably slower too by now.
Very informative video, thank you so much, now I can relate to my experience using both type of bikes
Marvellous work, thank you! In practice I find my Brompton pretty similar to my road bike in terms of speed, maybe because I normally have the aerodynamic load of panniers on the latter, as opposed to a rucksack in my slipstream on the Brompton. I proudly remember one occasion when riding my Brompton, I found myself with a couple of club road bike riders slipstreaming me :-). I was fortunate enough to compete in the Brompton World Championship once, too -- and that felt like pretty scary full-on bike racing, with welcome straw bales on the corner obstacles. Thank goodness the tarmac was dry at least, as cornering traction is not a Brompton forte...
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Thanks Kamal, it seems to be working.
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