I have a 2018 Kubota BX model and I keep it inside what I call a tractor shed. It's a 20 ft shipping container that I use for storage and half of it is dedicated to my tractor. After all these years it's still looks pretty good. What makes me laugh is that when I've taken it in to get something fixed to the dealer locally, I always get the same thing from them. Your tractor is too clean, it should be a little dirty it shows it's been worked. I'm not sure where these people get this crap from but I have worked my little BX's wheels off and done hundreds of projects around by 2 acres. My tractor looks good because I take care of it, wash it and then put it back in the tractor shed. Same thing as a car or a truck that's left out and the elements as opposed to in a garage. People are weird about their tractors and if you want the faded well-worn look paint-wise, then you do you. 😂
My father and I are fortunate enough to store our New Holland Boomer tractors inside. Not everyone can do this though. For the price this new equipment is the manufacturers need to change the formulas of paints to include UV protection! I'm glad they have started. Many folks including myself want a good looking machine. 🙂
You have convinced yourself it doesn’t matter. Appearance absolutely matters to the buyer. Try to sell two used tractors one with shiny paint and paint like yours. Let me know which one sells for more money.
Neil, My MX5400 is only 2 years old and has always been stored inside. I also have the 8N Ford my grandfather bought new in 1950 it’s all original and has always been stored inside. The paint is pristine for its age. I’m blessed to be able to store all my equipment inside and over the years it really makes a difference in the longevity. Enjoyable video Neil thanks.
My new L2501 was delivered, thoroughly washed, dried and ceramic coated. I also did the same to the backhoe and FEL. Three years later it still looks new. No regrets. I almost never buy any equipment or vehicles new so this one stands out in fleet, 93 truck, 94 van, 03 TDi wagon
That used tractor has good paint will draw more attention in my opinion. I think they should have a durable paint on them. Turning pink on the lot is ridiculous and I saw that once.
I'll never forget when I saw Mike Morgan painting the bucket for his 3901 (early video) He takes very good care of his equipment. But I'm never going to be painting my bucket. Everybody has different "pain thresholds"... paint isnt one of mine.
Park your stuff inside!!! I'll never understand the mindset, cart before the horse people. I have a mini, tractor, zeroturn, brush hog, grapple, plow, forks and bucket all in a 40' shipping container I paid 3k for, and another 750 spray foaming the ceiling. Letting 80k in equipment sit outside when you can store it for 4k is stupid.
I have the same as you but the issue isn't the days or nights not in use. We use our L3560 several hours a day. In the summer months, sometimes its 6-10hrs out in the sun working. Mowing fields, dragging arena's and unloading hay.
@@markbatzel And is it faded? I've got about 600hrs on my mini, all sunny/nice days. It's not faded one bit. But it's been stored inside since 2016 when not in use.
BX here, retired. I got down the paint rat hole a while back after learning how to touch up an SUV. I had a deep ding in my hood. Airbrushed, blended, polished etc. Now I can tackle areas as needed. Mine stays in the shop, but it’s a dusty environment. After market paint is all over the place, I painted my grapple using TS Kubota Orange, changes pretty quickly to another tint. Beats working on cars though.
I store my tractor inside and clean it regularly. I like to take care of my tools. Kubota paint does suck -- I don't have experience with other brands, though. My tractor is only a few years old and some of the paint peeled in various places, revealing rust underneath. I bought some paint from the dealer and will fix it, but it still sucks...
True, red pigments have a greater tendency to fade sooner than other colors. This includes shades of maroon to shades of orange. Ever seen good old fashioned red enamel turn pink?
Yeah, their paint is a joke. it’s purely laughable how they fade at such different rates. I’d be embarrassed if I were Kubota and sent out crap like that. Having good paint for a manufacturer isn’t new. Old tractors have had good paint and look better at 50 years old than Kubotas do at 10.
Love their frame “paint” that easily chips off. Fine with the different colors, but wish it would stick. Kubota, we don’t car what our welds look like, our 😅paint, powder coat etc.
Some people look at cars, trucks, and ATV's as tools but that doesn't mean that the dealers are going to keep them sitting outside long enough to get faded parts and rusty bolts and then sell them as new. That's exclusive to your industry
My 18 year old BX23 has really chalky paint on the thin metal hood.. Its been bad for 10 years. It will NOT wet sand and polish out.. the whole thickness is affected. I am going to re-do it with a custom 'flame' job, with fresh orange base masked off, and airbrush the flames. My wheels needed repaint first.. they went almost white on only 6 years...rattle can is still holding up.. Also did some cylinders that needed help. The sheet metal around the entire rear area of the tractor is still near perfect, glossy and deep orange.
I’ve constructed a large storage shelter for my 2023 B-2601 with heated Curtis cab, loader , belly mower , snow pusher , pallet forks , brush hog , ballast box . A $4500.00 shelter will keep my $40K investment looking great for years plus I absolutely hate clearing snow off before using equipment!
At least there is a body to hold paint. My BX series body has completely broken off in pieces. All that is left is the rear fenders and foot board. The foot board has broken away from the fenders, so I am a bit worried having somewhere to put my feet! I have owned it since new and it has always been stored inside. Mechanically after 17 years it been a good one. Worrying about paint inconsistencies on a tractor/implement/mower i.e. tool is almost laughable to me.
I build alot of the kubotas at work . The paint is a pain. I have to tap all the thread holes. Hog out the thrpugh holes to get them aligned with threads. Overspray is inanne in the pins. I often need to hone out the pin holes so the pins are not extremely hard to put in.
@@MessicksEquip it does. They are always happy . Thats how we like it here at mcqueens kubota. Its the small details and custom fab stuff that really keeps them coming back .
The issue for many, even as a small farm owner myself, is how your equipment looks after time. When you spend 30-60k on a machine and take care of it, you want it to still look good, even after 2000hrs of use. Maintenance is one thing, and vital but appearance is another when the orange tractor is apart of your brand. A chalky orange tractor, while yes, it gets the job done, looks old and used up. The consumer buying a BX, B, LX or smaller L is typically a land owner with 6 to 50 acres and takes pride in all their machines.
Tractor paint has come along way over the years. Back in the 50s it wasn't much more then a rattle can paint job. The only ones that still have original paint were always stored inside. When i was on a harvest crew the guys all waxed there tractors and balers so even the farmers care more about there equipment then they used to
I found several quarts of kubota paint at my local Ollie’s store funny enough, I used it on my yard trailer and though it is holding up it definitely faded.
Paint matters to me! And while I like Kubota equipment their paint is terrible. I’ve seen Deere machines that sat outside all their lives and they still shine like new. But personally unless it’s a killer deal i wouldn’t buy a tractor with faded paint because that tells me that it’s spent most of its life outside and in my opinion a tractor needs to be stored under shelter. But yes faded or rust is a deal breaker to me unless the price justifies it
Paint on the Kubota is bad. My l2501 started rusting on the hood seam within a year. I had to add a rust inhibitor. The tractor was always under storage Other than that tractor was awesome
It must not have been painted correctly. My L2501 still looks brand new after 5yrs. I keep it under a metal cover like where i park my car. It’s not enclosed at all
My tractors get hosed off once a year, even if there's still some orange showing. L3902 always under cover though because the seats fill with water and freeze solid.
What I noticed in my circa 2019 machine is the wheels are deeper orange and the tractor and loader are 2 different shades but lighter the backhoe which was bought 2 years later it the color of the tractor
I store mine inside…but the paint on the shiny parts will chip just looking at it. Whatever paint they use on implements is plenty tuff. But the hood, cockpit and fender paint is fragile.
I agree the paint is awful. My hood & flooring is chipped-paint & rusted on a BX2370-1 with slightly over 1k hours or 6 years of life. It might be the vibration the hood experiences & my flooring rust might be my wet feet.
Is it okay to pressure spray a tractor? I’m worried about water getting into places that will cause trouble. My tractor is kept in a shed that is close to a dirt road. As a result it gets dusty.
What this equipment cost I can't understand why people would leave it set outside not me. The cost of Kubota's you would think they would want to put on a quality paint job.
I don't have the luxury of storing my Kubota inside, so the paint is starting to take on a pinkish hue! I'm not too concerned about outside storage - my local dealer has dozens of new tractors that sit outside for months or even years!
The factories of any of these major companies are paint lines all from PPG from the tours I've done. Robotic painting on moving lines. Just a UV and chemistry problem.
Auto industry has bad paint as well ! It’s a EPA thing and products aren’t painted with paint that really works like back in the day. I have a 2016 BX kept in a small barn shed with doors closed and it still looks new. Sun UV destroys paint ! The more it’s out in the sun the worse and faster it’s going to go ! Keep it washed and waxed and in an enclosed environment and it will look great for years to come !🇺🇸
Bobcat orange is just as bad. I had repainted one that looked terrible after 10 years of job site use. I used Nason full thane urethane paint from Oreilly and after another 10 years it looks pretty amazing. Nicer looking equipment makes a difference to me (regardless of age) and would be worth the price to have it done right the first time.
Funny that Neil says the tractor manufacturers haven't paid much attention to the paint, while the tractor's color (orange, green, blue, red) has been a hallmark of the entire industry's marketing and brand identity.
Excuses, excuses, excuses..😂 yes, a tractor of many oranges and greys. At least it is metal we can paint, not plastic that gets brittle and brakes. But wheel color always surprises me how different it is.
My five year old L4701 has totally chalked out paint. In places down to bare metal. It has ~350 hours on it and looks worse than a friends 74 year old original paint Farmall
My L is a 2018. Tractor looks 10 yrs old. Loader looks 30 years old with a majority of the decals peeling off. However, the Wheels look brand new. Landpride stuff looks older than what they are but they get a beating. Couldn’t be happier with how everything functions though!!
It’s. A. Tractor. Not a collector car or fine art. I just put JD green bucket hooks on my 40- year-old Yanmar. Why? Because they were cheaper than I could buy the steel for, and they didn’t have black ones. Tractor has lived outside for most of its life, and you know what? It’s still a functional tractor.
Yikes, you all missed the mark on this one. There is simply no excuse in this age to not match when new regardless of factory, or for color to deteriorate as bad as it does. Especially-as someone else commented previously-when you build your brand on color. Kubota could (and should!) hold their suppliers accountable, but they don’t. And if they can’t even get what I can see done right, why should I trust them to have done it right for what I can’t see?
ever notice how a crane looks compared to other equipment. Seems the BS im hearing here is just that. imagine a GTO Judge with Orange paint that faded like that. Even the fifty year old enamel’s hold up better than this !
I have a 2018 Kubota BX model and I keep it inside what I call a tractor shed. It's a 20 ft shipping container that I use for storage and half of it is dedicated to my tractor. After all these years it's still looks pretty good. What makes me laugh is that when I've taken it in to get something fixed to the dealer locally, I always get the same thing from them. Your tractor is too clean, it should be a little dirty it shows it's been worked. I'm not sure where these people get this crap from but I have worked my little BX's wheels off and done hundreds of projects around by 2 acres. My tractor looks good because I take care of it, wash it and then put it back in the tractor shed. Same thing as a car or a truck that's left out and the elements as opposed to in a garage. People are weird about their tractors and if you want the faded well-worn look paint-wise, then you do you. 😂
My father and I are fortunate enough to store our New Holland Boomer tractors inside. Not everyone can do this though. For the price this new equipment is the manufacturers need to change the formulas of paints to include UV protection! I'm glad they have started. Many folks including myself want a good looking machine. 🙂
You have convinced yourself it doesn’t matter. Appearance absolutely matters to the buyer. Try to sell two used tractors one with shiny paint and paint like yours. Let me know which one sells for more money.
Totally agree, a faded tractor looks like a worn out tractor. Huge fail on Kubota's part.
Neil, good job handling a tough topic.
Neil, My MX5400 is only 2 years old and has always been stored inside. I also have the 8N Ford my grandfather bought new in 1950 it’s all original and has always been stored inside. The paint is pristine for its age. I’m blessed to be able to store all my equipment inside and over the years it really makes a difference in the longevity. Enjoyable video Neil thanks.
My new L2501 was delivered, thoroughly washed, dried and ceramic coated. I also did the same to the backhoe and FEL. Three years later it still looks new. No regrets. I almost never buy any equipment or vehicles new so this one stands out in fleet, 93 truck, 94 van, 03 TDi wagon
That used tractor has good paint will draw more attention in my opinion. I think they should have a durable paint on them. Turning pink on the lot is ridiculous and I saw that once.
I'll never forget when I saw Mike Morgan painting the bucket for his 3901 (early video)
He takes very good care of his equipment. But I'm never going to be painting my bucket. Everybody has different "pain thresholds"... paint isnt one of mine.
My 2013 l3800 still looking great.
Park your stuff inside!!!
I'll never understand the mindset, cart before the horse people.
I have a mini, tractor, zeroturn, brush hog, grapple, plow, forks and bucket all in a 40' shipping container I paid 3k for, and another 750 spray foaming the ceiling. Letting 80k in equipment sit outside when you can store it for 4k is stupid.
4K? Lol you seen the price of buildings?
@blessingslawn
Yeah.. that's why my equipment goes in a 40' connex and the collector cars are in a garage.
I have the same as you but the issue isn't the days or nights not in use. We use our L3560 several hours a day. In the summer months, sometimes its 6-10hrs out in the sun working. Mowing fields, dragging arena's and unloading hay.
@@markbatzel
And is it faded?
I've got about 600hrs on my mini, all sunny/nice days. It's not faded one bit. But it's been stored inside since 2016 when not in use.
BX here, retired. I got down the paint rat hole a while back after learning how to touch up an SUV. I had a deep ding in my hood. Airbrushed, blended, polished etc. Now I can tackle areas as needed. Mine stays in the shop, but it’s a dusty environment. After market paint is all over the place, I painted my grapple using TS Kubota Orange, changes pretty quickly to another tint. Beats working on cars though.
I store my tractor inside and clean it regularly. I like to take care of my tools. Kubota paint does suck -- I don't have experience with other brands, though. My tractor is only a few years old and some of the paint peeled in various places, revealing rust underneath. I bought some paint from the dealer and will fix it, but it still sucks...
True, red pigments have a greater tendency to fade sooner than other colors. This includes shades of maroon to shades of orange. Ever seen good old fashioned red enamel turn pink?
Yes, their paint sucks!
Yeah, their paint is a joke. it’s purely laughable how they fade at such different rates. I’d be embarrassed if I were Kubota and sent out crap like that. Having good paint for a manufacturer isn’t new. Old tractors have had good paint and look better at 50 years old than Kubotas do at 10.
Love their frame “paint” that easily chips off. Fine with the different colors, but wish it would stick. Kubota, we don’t car what our welds look like, our 😅paint, powder coat etc.
Some people look at cars, trucks, and ATV's as tools but that doesn't mean that the dealers are going to keep them sitting outside long enough to get faded parts and rusty bolts and then sell them as new. That's exclusive to your industry
Love the orange
Remind me of Schneider trucking
Let's not forget the spray can orange sprayed on welded on chain hooks, etc.
Was a good video, enjoyed it
Like a car people who take care of their possessions shine right through. Like the saying goes, if you don’t give a rip, it shows.
My 18 year old BX23 has really chalky paint on the thin metal hood.. Its been bad for 10 years. It will NOT wet sand and polish out.. the whole thickness is affected. I am going to re-do it with a custom 'flame' job, with fresh orange base masked off, and airbrush the flames. My wheels needed repaint first.. they went almost white on only 6 years...rattle can is still holding up.. Also did some cylinders that needed help. The sheet metal around the entire rear area of the tractor is still near perfect, glossy and deep orange.
I’ve constructed a large storage shelter for my 2023 B-2601 with heated Curtis cab, loader , belly mower , snow pusher , pallet forks , brush hog , ballast box . A $4500.00 shelter will keep my $40K investment looking great for years plus I absolutely hate clearing snow off before using equipment!
At least there is a body to hold paint. My BX series body has completely broken off in pieces. All that is left is the rear fenders and foot board. The foot board has broken away from the fenders, so I am a bit worried having somewhere to put my feet! I have owned it since new and it has always been stored inside. Mechanically after 17 years it been a good one. Worrying about paint inconsistencies on a tractor/implement/mower i.e. tool is almost laughable to me.
A tractor represents a significant investment and a point of pride for many people. Rust kills machines so paint is important!
I build alot of the kubotas at work . The paint is a pain. I have to tap all the thread holes. Hog out the thrpugh holes to get them aligned with threads. Overspray is inanne in the pins. I often need to hone out the pin holes so the pins are not extremely hard to put in.
That prep work is needed on any painted machine. Props though, that prep goes a long way to happy customers
@@MessicksEquip it does. They are always happy . Thats how we like it here at mcqueens kubota. Its the small details and custom fab stuff that really keeps them coming back .
The issue for many, even as a small farm owner myself, is how your equipment looks after time. When you spend 30-60k on a machine and take care of it, you want it to still look good, even after 2000hrs of use. Maintenance is one thing, and vital but appearance is another when the orange tractor is apart of your brand. A chalky orange tractor, while yes, it gets the job done, looks old and used up. The consumer buying a BX, B, LX or smaller L is typically a land owner with 6 to 50 acres and takes pride in all their machines.
It's interesting that a 20-year backhoe works on a newer tractor still.
Tractor paint has come along way over the years. Back in the 50s it wasn't much more then a rattle can paint job. The only ones that still have original paint were always stored inside. When i was on a harvest crew the guys all waxed there tractors and balers so even the farmers care more about there equipment then they used to
I found several quarts of kubota paint at my local Ollie’s store funny enough, I used it on my yard trailer and though it is holding up it definitely faded.
Paint matters to me! And while I like Kubota equipment their paint is terrible. I’ve seen Deere machines that sat outside all their lives and they still shine like new. But personally unless it’s a killer deal i wouldn’t buy a tractor with faded paint because that tells me that it’s spent most of its life outside and in my opinion a tractor needs to be stored under shelter. But yes faded or rust is a deal breaker to me unless the price justifies it
Paint on the Kubota is bad. My l2501 started rusting on the hood seam within a year. I had to add a rust inhibitor. The tractor was always under storage
Other than that tractor was awesome
It must not have been painted correctly. My L2501 still looks brand new after 5yrs. I keep it under a metal cover like where i park my car. It’s not enclosed at all
My tractors get hosed off once a year, even if there's still some orange showing. L3902 always under cover though because the seats fill with water and freeze solid.
What I noticed in my circa 2019 machine is the wheels are deeper orange and the tractor and loader are 2 different shades but lighter the backhoe which was bought 2 years later it the color of the tractor
I store mine inside…but the paint on the shiny parts will chip just looking at it. Whatever paint they use on implements is plenty tuff. But the hood, cockpit and fender paint is fragile.
I agree the paint is awful. My hood & flooring is chipped-paint & rusted on a BX2370-1 with slightly over 1k hours or 6 years of life. It might be the vibration the hood experiences & my flooring rust might be my wet feet.
Serriously, is that a good scoop on your tractor?
Is it okay to pressure spray a tractor? I’m worried about water getting into places that will cause trouble.
My tractor is kept in a shed that is close to a dirt road. As a result it gets dusty.
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I hear the Ace premium orange gloss #17016 is a close match. 1/4 the price.
It's depends if they're painting plastic or metal
What this equipment cost I can't understand why people would leave it set outside not me. The cost of Kubota's you would think they would want to put on a quality paint job.
I don't have the luxury of storing my Kubota inside, so the paint is starting to take on a pinkish hue! I'm not too concerned about outside storage - my local dealer has dozens of new tractors that sit outside for months or even years!
You pay big bucks for the Tractor, you should get the best paint. I wash mine and wax it two or three times a year, and I also keep it in my barn.
Single stage paint is the main problem, cost savings & orange is affected the most of any color by uv
The factories of any of these major companies are paint lines all from PPG from the tours I've done. Robotic painting on moving lines. Just a UV and chemistry problem.
Auto industry has bad paint as well ! It’s a EPA thing and products aren’t painted with paint that really works like back in the day.
I have a 2016 BX kept in a small barn shed with doors closed and it still looks new. Sun UV destroys paint ! The more it’s out in the sun the worse and faster it’s going to go !
Keep it washed and waxed and in an enclosed environment and it will look great for years to come !🇺🇸
A lot of paints fade in the sunshine 🌞 when they are left outside in all weather's
Good paint on equipment sells better
The answer is yes.
Green paint from that one company moving jobs to Mexico is the standard that nobody lives up to. Cat has benchmarked it.
Form " follows" FUNCTION , its not a Cadillac its its a tractor .
My paint is 5 yrs old and still looks brand new.. but i take care of my stuff
A wax job once a year does wonders!
Bobcat orange is just as bad. I had repainted one that looked terrible after 10 years of job site use. I used Nason full thane urethane paint from Oreilly and after another 10 years it looks pretty amazing. Nicer looking equipment makes a difference to me (regardless of age) and would be worth the price to have it done right the first time.
I could care less about the paint,it's a dam tractor.It's not a hot rod.
Funny that Neil says the tractor manufacturers haven't paid much attention to the paint, while the tractor's color (orange, green, blue, red) has been a hallmark of the entire industry's marketing and brand identity.
Just the colour not the quality of the paint.
Old school tractors had tons better paint than they do now. It’s asinine.
Ding ding ding!
mx5000 so far so good, rims have some spots.
Excuses, excuses, excuses..😂 yes, a tractor of many oranges and greys. At least it is metal we can paint, not plastic that gets brittle and brakes. But wheel color always surprises me how different it is.
Try matching the paint all the time
My five year old L4701 has totally chalked out paint. In places down to bare metal. It has ~350 hours on it and looks worse than a friends 74 year old original paint Farmall
There is no denying it… love my “pink” Kubotas but, put some clear point on these things already
The audio seems a little fuzzy or is it just me?
Low quality paint is lazy; however, I'm not worried about if my tractor fades out.
My L is a 2018. Tractor looks 10 yrs old. Loader looks 30 years old with a majority of the decals peeling off. However, the Wheels look brand new. Landpride stuff looks older than what they are but they get a beating. Couldn’t be happier with how everything functions though!!
It’s. A. Tractor. Not a collector car or fine art. I just put JD green bucket hooks on my 40- year-old Yanmar. Why? Because they were cheaper than I could buy the steel for, and they didn’t have black ones. Tractor has lived outside for most of its life, and you know what? It’s still a functional tractor.
If it has an engine park it inside. You pay for a barn if you have one or not...read that again.
Yikes, you all missed the mark on this one. There is simply no excuse in this age to not match when new regardless of factory, or for color to deteriorate as bad as it does. Especially-as someone else commented previously-when you build your brand on color. Kubota could (and should!) hold their suppliers accountable, but they don’t. And if they can’t even get what I can see done right, why should I trust them to have done it right for what I can’t see?
The small fortune we pay for these machines, they cheap out on paint, shameful
These things are expensive, I try to at least park mine under some style of shelter.
For what they charge for their products the paint should have already been 'automotive' grade!!!
Allis-Chalmers did not have a problem like Kubota has had for years. Poor paint quality.
Modern environmental requirements
Its terrible all my rtv,s it flakes off everywhere love them but for the money it's not acceptable
even stored inside they fade...
Hood scoup
Pre 1990 paint and color was better.
Their paint sucks.
Paint keeps me from buying Kubota.
Built a shed or buy a metal carport.
ever notice how a crane looks compared to other equipment. Seems the BS im hearing here is just that. imagine a GTO Judge with Orange paint that faded like that. Even the fifty year old enamel’s hold up better than this !
Kubota paint sucks
Kubota paint is garbage…
Pink paint down the road and the skateboard treadle peddle are what’s keeping me from buying a Kubota. 🫣