But Panyaza Lesufi said that after 29 May any citizen will be able to go to any hospital, private or public, and that government will pay? Should he resign for misleading and abusing people's trust?
He said after 29 May but not when after 29 May. ..is it 30 May 2024...30 June 2024...1 January 2025 1 January 2026 1 January 2030 1 January 2040...etc etc
Bad idea, people are running away from Public health institutions because their services is very poor and rude...if we don’t pay at the private institutions let's expects the same treatments we ran from
This is an uninformed generalization, I only use public hospital they have remarkable services. When i used to afford the medical AID i use to go to the medical cartel and not much help I have received there except high bills. My son was born in a public hospital, the service was far more better than my two daughters born in private hospitals. The same argument goes to education, in private schools there is average oof 100% whi greater black children pusjed away for Mathematics, Sciences and Accounting. Only using MAthematics Literacy to score points. Only intellectuals can competently unpack the scourge of private cult in South Africa
@@andileluvuno4988 understand the fact that is not everyone or everywhere but majority of them are rude and mistreat people especially elder people I just wonder if they grew up without parents and not taught to have manners or they think they are qualified than us. Govt must stopping interfering in our expenses we joined medical aid or insurance because we can afford it and not happy with their public services
Are foreigners not paying taxes? There are foreigners who have never used public facilities & who are paying their medical aid, so why would you even think that they should not have any health benefits?
Water was also Nationalized in 1998...nearly all water resources is now contaminated! People recently died of cholera! Like health care....critical to our existence!
Ok so I am sure all government employees can cancel their very expensive private medical aid insurance for themselves and their families. if they are confident in their ability to deliver top medical care to all South Africans surely they themselves wouldn't mind using it themselves.
Huuuuuge scam, another cute way bamboozle pples money, just before he goes he must sign these billions to his friends in politics and the charma industry
So more bureaucracy more million rand postions on a board plus all the support staff etc im sure some lovely plush officers etc before even a fund will be set up .the gravy train will continue
SIMPLE !! Government needs a total clean up of all areas within the public health system. 1. Remove the rude incompetent hospital staff . 2. Revamp of all government hospitals. 3. Stop theft and corruption within the public health sector..
What narcissistic liar! Gauteng Premier Panyaza Lesufi telling a campaign event that after the elections, if the ANC wins, anyone will be able to access the best private healthcare.
I think healthcare shouldn't only be for the rich, but for everyone. Those who oppse it are fighting to preserve the status quo. My father had to die in a public hospital because he did not have medical aid to fund a procedure that the state did not cover. Millions died over the years because they were refused medical assistance relating to funding. If this fund can put an end to that I am all for it. Another reason not to vote for the DA and other parties trying to stop this. Rather vote for the party that supports equal right for everyone and not just the interests of tha haves. The next step is to makebasic food free of charge. Create a fund to make basic foods free for everyone in the coutry. Capitalism should not be at the expense of the poor.
In a country of 59 million - 3 million pay 90% of the personal income tax. NHI is a great idea - but the tiny taxable salaries plus the horrific track record of the current government in delivering basic services just makes a large portion of those tax payers consider leaving the country instead. Until you deal with corruption - the elite will continue to feed and the poor will continue to die.
@@wesleymaurice all you're doing is pointing at wealth inequality from a different angle and attributing it as a positive action of the wealthy. People who are sick, needlessly disabled or dead, cannot contribute. Redress inherently requires a temporary imbalance to get back to a stable equilibrium, and this one is just one that funnels it to the actually disadvantaged, rather than to private equity. We already pay far too much proportionally for our healthcare for what we get, the question is are you only happy for that to be the case when you can make sure no one *you* think doesn't deserve it will benefit? The method of phasing out/ensuring a critical mass of NHI use could be ironed out better, but this is actually a good idea and a proven one when implemented and used correctly. Deciding to boycott and hamstring the project before it's even begun is a self-fulfilling prophecy, where you will end up double-paying out of spite and it still won't be enough, so... Instead of pointing fingers and throwing our hands up in defeat before anything has even begun, why not participate? If the NHI is to be run like a business, a business needs people to run it, advise it, be vendors and partners etc., this can be an opportunity for both growth and greater insight/oversight if the right people just get involved and cooperate, and remember that the goal here is a healthy South Africa, not just healthy businesses, or a particular party in power.
Anything that counters the effort is an excuse to keep the status quo. Deep down those who oppose don't wan't stinky homeless people to be treated in the same hospitals as them. Like I said. The system needs to change. Capitalism is connected to everything. Its not impossible to make adjustments we have great minds to assist and weak minds that oppose. These people with their misunderstanding of how economics work kike to throw around inaccurate analogies regarding the fiscal characteristics of the country believing most people are ignorant, guess what...
You're out of touch with reality, as it is public hospitals are in a deplorable state because funds go missing, your ANC heroes eat everything they get their hands on. NHI WON'T WORK in SA.
yes and after that free transport as well!! we need to get to jobs for free, in fact how about free airtime as well, then we could look for work when we don't have any money. actually NOTHING is free, if you think it is you just haven't worked out who's paying for it cause its either yourself, taxpayers , investors or your children. i suggest you start opening some books on economics 101 before acting like a 10 year old
This is goong to be a service? We know what service delivery looks and feel like, we know and experience this every day of our lives. What have we done to play with people's health! I hope that there will be a challenge in court, especially when a pool of monies! Disgraceful!! Taxes to be raised!! Our companies cover the difference.
But Panyaza Lesufi said that after 29 May any citizen will be able to go to any hospital, private or public, and that government will pay? Should he resign for misleading and abusing people's trust?
Election promises with NO SUBSTANCE!!!!!
He was definitely trying attract to more people to vote for ANC
He said after 29 May but not when after 29 May. ..is it 30 May 2024...30 June 2024...1 January 2025 1 January 2026 1 January 2030 1 January 2040...etc etc
Elections gimmick.
I wonder were will ANC comrades go to, when they get sick? To avoid ques and inefficiency
Like Eskom. ANC associated criminals will steal and destroy this
but why do i feel like this is disastrous??
Maybe because everything the a&c touches becomes a disaster???
Because it is…
It is
It is catastrophic Bill
Bad idea, people are running away from Public health institutions because their services is very poor and rude...if we don’t pay at the private institutions let's expects the same treatments we ran from
This is an uninformed generalization, I only use public hospital they have remarkable services. When i used to afford the medical AID i use to go to the medical cartel and not much help I have received there except high bills. My son was born in a public hospital, the service was far more better than my two daughters born in private hospitals. The same argument goes to education, in private schools there is average oof 100% whi greater black children pusjed away for Mathematics, Sciences and Accounting. Only using MAthematics Literacy to score points. Only intellectuals can competently unpack the scourge of private cult in South Africa
@@andileluvuno4988 understand the fact that is not everyone or everywhere but majority of them are rude and mistreat people especially elder people I just wonder if they grew up without parents and not taught to have manners or they think they are qualified than us. Govt must stopping interfering in our expenses we joined medical aid or insurance because we can afford it and not happy with their public services
@@andileluvuno4988 🤣spell check is for free
Why must the public comment. Nobody reads it, not least the authorities.
So even foreigners can use our tax money for health benefits...yooo
Are foreigners not paying taxes? There are foreigners who have never used public facilities & who are paying their medical aid, so why would you even think that they should not have any health benefits?
They pay taxes too lol
@@enmokunay
Ohhh😮😮😮. Do they? I didn't know
Xenophobic ignorance. They pay taxes, they deserve benefits.
You voted ANC therefore foreigners will jump fence en masse
this dr. whatever has contradicted himself at every point? what is his cut of the pie? that's the only logical question
It won't work because nothing under the anc works. 😂😂😂
facts.
Lol, stealing works very well under the a&c.
Typical racist comment from a racist white
SARS works extremely efficiently under the current Prez and Nicolas Crisp said the NHI would be like SARS in efficiency. ..he wouldn't lie would he?
Only SARS is working and BEE
All for votes
How will it work? Easy-peasy: not.
Its all about stealing money with confusion.
you nailed it
Healthcare is very critical to be under the government
Yes Health shouldn't be a Money Driven Capitalistic matter
Water was also Nationalized in 1998...nearly all water resources is now contaminated! People recently died of cholera! Like health care....critical to our existence!
Ok so I am sure all government employees can cancel their very expensive private medical aid insurance for themselves and their families. if they are confident in their ability to deliver top medical care to all South Africans surely they themselves wouldn't mind using it themselves.
Huuuuuge scam, another cute way bamboozle pples money, just before he goes he must sign these billions to his friends in politics and the charma industry
Hi jack the PRIVITE hospitals and make it state hospitals its good because there is aparheid in the health sector
It wont work, unless you consider its work to be the enrichment of the ANC connected.
Should the public not get a chance to comment before the law is signed?
So more bureaucracy more million rand postions on a board plus all the support staff etc im sure some lovely plush officers etc before even a fund will be set up .the gravy train will continue
Typical racist comment
What happens when the guns run out like every government entity
Typical racist comment
Why in public signing
It wont
More money to loot
It won't work
SIMPLE !! Government needs a total clean up of all areas within the public health system. 1. Remove the rude incompetent hospital staff . 2. Revamp of all government hospitals. 3. Stop theft and corruption within the public health sector..
i bet they can't wait to start feeding at the trough...
Typical racist comment
What makes you think it will work?
So we watch and wait.
Is it not my constitutional right to select and pay for private treatment?
Oh you can… but you must ALSO pay for other people to get… just like you pay for the police you don’t use or the potholes you fix yourself.
Time will tell, there is nothing wrong with NHI, fear of unknown.
Bruh the taxpayers can't afford it, we are already one of the most taxed societies in the world.
Ga!
What narcissistic liar! Gauteng Premier Panyaza Lesufi telling a campaign event that after the elections, if the ANC wins, anyone will be able to access the best private healthcare.
It wont work nothing does
Panyaza nasi ispan guy is a scam ..anc must go😮
We want cape independence
I think healthcare shouldn't only be for the rich, but for everyone. Those who oppse it are fighting to preserve the status quo. My father had to die in a public hospital because he did not have medical aid to fund a procedure that the state did not cover. Millions died over the years because they were refused medical assistance relating to funding. If this fund can put an end to that I am all for it. Another reason not to vote for the DA and other parties trying to stop this. Rather vote for the party that supports equal right for everyone and not just the interests of tha haves. The next step is to makebasic food free of charge. Create a fund to make basic foods free for everyone in the coutry. Capitalism should not be at the expense of the poor.
In a country of 59 million - 3 million pay 90% of the personal income tax. NHI is a great idea - but the tiny taxable salaries plus the horrific track record of the current government in delivering basic services just makes a large portion of those tax payers consider leaving the country instead. Until you deal with corruption - the elite will continue to feed and the poor will continue to die.
@@wesleymaurice all you're doing is pointing at wealth inequality from a different angle and attributing it as a positive action of the wealthy. People who are sick, needlessly disabled or dead, cannot contribute. Redress inherently requires a temporary imbalance to get back to a stable equilibrium, and this one is just one that funnels it to the actually disadvantaged, rather than to private equity.
We already pay far too much proportionally for our healthcare for what we get, the question is are you only happy for that to be the case when you can make sure no one *you* think doesn't deserve it will benefit? The method of phasing out/ensuring a critical mass of NHI use could be ironed out better, but this is actually a good idea and a proven one when implemented and used correctly. Deciding to boycott and hamstring the project before it's even begun is a self-fulfilling prophecy, where you will end up double-paying out of spite and it still won't be enough, so...
Instead of pointing fingers and throwing our hands up in defeat before anything has even begun, why not participate? If the NHI is to be run like a business, a business needs people to run it, advise it, be vendors and partners etc., this can be an opportunity for both growth and greater insight/oversight if the right people just get involved and cooperate, and remember that the goal here is a healthy South Africa, not just healthy businesses, or a particular party in power.
Anything that counters the effort is an excuse to keep the status quo. Deep down those who oppose don't wan't stinky homeless people to be treated in the same hospitals as them. Like I said. The system needs to change. Capitalism is connected to everything. Its not impossible to make adjustments we have great minds to assist and weak minds that oppose. These people with their misunderstanding of how economics work kike to throw around inaccurate analogies regarding the fiscal characteristics of the country believing most people are ignorant, guess what...
You're out of touch with reality, as it is public hospitals are in a deplorable state because funds go missing, your ANC heroes eat everything they get their hands on. NHI WON'T WORK in SA.
yes and after that free transport as well!! we need to get to jobs for free, in fact how about free airtime as well, then we could look for work when we don't have any money.
actually NOTHING is free, if you think it is you just haven't worked out who's paying for it cause its either yourself, taxpayers , investors or your children.
i suggest you start opening some books on economics 101 before acting like a 10 year old
Ramaphosa was a chief negoriator for 1994 and will again be a chief negotiator for coalitions in 2024. Game over Ramaphosa. Close it.
You are more than crazy!
This is goong to be a service? We know what service delivery looks and feel like, we know and experience this every day of our lives. What have we done to play with people's health! I hope that there will be a challenge in court, especially when a pool of monies! Disgraceful!! Taxes to be raised!! Our companies cover the difference.