Thank you for this Video I watched your older videos about the difference in these nettings and this one as well . I appreciate your sharing the knowledge regarding both and sharing your price code or discount . This really help me make a decision & as well this will be my very first netting so very much appreciated it will continue to follow you on all your youtube videos and Social media
Hey, just wanna share a little tip with you on any of your fence lines that are slipping down if that is the only issue (here is the fix,)zip ties, zip tie Pole at the bottom will not slip down again and the heavier the zip tie the better, but can really use any of them hope this helps, especially if you mixed matching netting, or if you have any of knitting that slips down. And really all of them needs to be off the ground whether they have plastic tips or not and it also helps to stretcher it. Have a good one.
Thanks for your video! It came up as part of my final Google searches on poultry fencing to be sure Starkline was my choice before putting the order in. Not only did you confirm the choice but your discount code still works! Thank you!.
Thank you for sharing the price savings code!! I am about to setup fencing for my layers and look forward to seeing all the positives you noted! Thanks for reviewing the netting types.
Really the part about the pole boot on the Starkline being better than Premier I think is of no consequence. If a hot wire is getting that close to the ground, grounding out the fence will happen on either product. Keeping the bottom charged line out of ground proximity is the major thing. The other problem with Starkline is the 164' net fencing. Even Premier's videos do not properly articulate this problem. 150' lengths like Premier can be very tiring when rolling it up or deploying it. It is heavy and bulky. Notice how few videos show deploying or stowing the fence multiple times. Showing any net fencing on pasture hardly equates to the problems you will have putting through a thicket, or worse still picking all the snagging limbs out of it when you pick it up! The bigger problem with the Starkline goat fencing is how short it is. That shorter fence is fine if you are handling dwarf breeds, but even my nubian does can clear the taller 48" one by Premier, though that only happened once. They really have to be severely provoked (like being left alone in the paddock) for one to attempt leaping over the fence. Once she had a sister with her she never has tried it again. The biggest problem with Premier is availability. Customer service is first rate, parts availability is weak. I suspect because demand it very high. I would avoid the PVC poles too especially in warmer environments. If you have to add pole$ to maintain sturdine$$ you are adding expense. Buy the sturdier fiberglass poles. The major reason I did not buy Starkline's shorter goat fence is that I think 48" is a little short even from Premier. The poultry netting is taller, but the fence has slightly more resistance, and the problem with goats is that a fence that will stop a cow may only cause a determined goat to look back after charging through the fence. The increased resistance could be, not will be, a problem. I like Premier's Prima Shock energizer. What is really nice is that it has a meter on it and if it is showing a deterrence level voltage on the meter the fence is operating. The first day I put it out, I heard pops followed by "BAHS!!!!" and by morning even breakfast did not bring a goat closer to the wire than a foot away. If Starkline ever starts selling a 48" or taller goat fence I may be in the line for that product.
There is no metal at the bottom of Starklined premium pole for the wire to hound out too. Also Starkline does make a 48’ tall sheep and goat netting. I’d say we have about 1000’ or better. And probably a 200 step in post so no worries on the pvc post. I still use because it’s there to use! 🤣 thanks for watching!
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 You mean 48" tall...You'd be snagging helicopters with that one :-]. If they are making a 48" goat fence that is a new kettle of fish. Before 48" fencing was only their poultry netting, which I was unwilling to experiment with. I still would not use the PVC, the rigidity of fiberglass seems to be the way to go, but YMMV. Regardless of higher impedance all one needs to do is intelligently design their segments for the energizers they have. I am a fan of the prima shock as it seems to be used worldwide and for animals even more difficult to deter. Once I learned how to use the meter on the unit, just walking by I can tell if the energizers segments are working properly. My major ding on Starkline was no 48". So it will be necessary at some point to evaluate some Starkline. The major negative with Premier was availability. They are frequently out of some products especial pos/neg fencing which I do not need in my climate. I am certainly going to look more closely at Starkline, because someone wants me to manage a new goat and sheep operation. With as much fencing this might entail a mixture of Starkline and Timeless fencing sounds enticing.
Watched several of your videos today. Cannot find code anywhere. I want to order today!! Also haven't heard what state you're in. Love to know to compare weather, predators, etc. Can we use our solar charger we already have?
The discount code for Starkline Netting is Tillmanfamily all one work. It should work with any fence charger that is strong enough to charge the whole fence. Thanks for watching!
Guys can I ask the dumb question - I am assuming that the bottom black ‘wire’ on the netting is not metal? As of course it is going to be in contact with the ground and short out…. I am just asking as I have just pinned that down with about 200 metal stakes/ tent pins!!! Great videos by the way. Apologies if you explained that in the video or previous clips
Amazing video, so glad I found this before purchasing premium One! Just not sure which Energizer to get, to keep out predators like, Bears coyotes and fox? Any help would be appreciated! 🙌🙏
Gallagher has a predator setting once you get to the S40 series. Same shock but the charger pulses faster on that setting. Look up that charger on the Gallagher site. Use our Starkline discount code if you buy the netting. It’s 10% off. Code: Tillmanfamily at checkout. Thanks for watching!
Yes! You can use it with just about any netting. I’d recommend the alligator clips with other brands. Remember we have a discount code with Starkline! Use TILLMANFAMILY thanks for watching!
I don't know what kind of kickback Starkline gives you, but I bought the goat fence because of your videos, and it's absolute garbage. My very small goat destroyed it almost immediately. I couldn't be more disappointed in a product.
I’m sorry to hear that! We’ve never had a problem. We have sheep, goats, pigs and chickens in it. We have had to cull animals in the past that don’t respect the electric fence.
Do you have to have a closed circuit to have the fencing energized? I have both sides butting up to opposite sides of a shed, but can not get the fence to be hot, what the heck am I doing wrong? I didnt think it mattered if it was run in a straight line, it would still be hot? Thanks
Hi there, I found your channel while researching electric fences. I am looking to protect a large garden from racoons, rabbits, feral cats and opposum. If you were me which of the Starkline product would you choose? Any direction you can offer would be greatly appreciated. I'm pretty new to all this and am not sure which fencing option might be the best fit for my needs.
I would use the 48” tall premium poultry netting. The hole are smaller which makes it a great choice to protect against small animals. Charger depends on how close to power you are. One you can plug into a cord would be best. Thanks for watching. Hope this helps! If you buy Starkline use discount code tillmanfamily at checkout for 10% off.
We use Gallagher S20’s and S40’s. Don’t forget there is a discount code on Starkline netting! Enter “Tillmanfamily” at checkout for 10% off. Thanks for watching!!
Chris, How are you? I was wondering, do you have any issues with feral pigs trying to get into your sounders? I'm in the middle GA area and we had some pigs in a grow out pen that when butchered, they were all full of pig embryos. Later, we found a roving boar in the area and determined HE was the culprit because he didn't care about wooden or electric fences.
No. We are lucky. We are right above Columbus. Wild pigs are south, east and north east. We have been blessed to not have that problem. YET!! Good luck with them. They are a terrible problem! Thanks for watching!
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 They ARE horrible. IT IS a blessing for you all. We're east of Perry (Agricenter), they had to trap them in the city there. Thank you for sharing.
quick question, I have the chicken version, but it is short, did you ever have any problems with the chickens flying or jumping over the netting, I have one chicken who thinks it Michael Jordon.
🤣yeah there are some birds that just do what they want. We have a duck the flies in and out. Normally when we introduce the birds to netting we will clip at least one wing.
It’s easy!! Use scissors. Take one wing and pull it out. You’re only cutting feathers. There will be long flight features that’s what you cut. Just cut them even with the next row of feathers. I’ll do a short video this afternoon or tomorrow.
I’ll be honest. In my location (middle Georgia) we don’t have small predators like mink. We have never had a fox, coyote or wild dog dig under it. Those squares I would think a mink would go right through. But if you’re use a really hefty charger it would be hard for them not to get hit. Our herding dogs mess up and get hit every now and then and take off like a rocket back to the house.
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 wow, light predation, I'm jealous! 🤣 In WV, we've got, just about, everything! I've got a .1 J charger I used for horses and hogs. I saw you have a good sized pen, what size charger do you use, or recommend? Likin' the channel!
The biggest charger I use is a Gallagher S40. It hurts. Trust me. I run the cows on it as they move. Most of the pigs and chickens run on a Gallagher S20 with no issues. Every now and then the birds will fly out for whatever reason. If we don’t catch them they don’t last long!!! We are now running around 300 egg layers so we normally have to walk up on a pile of feathers to even know ones gone. We have had trouble with airborne attacks more than anything. Hawks, owls and Osprey. We added a bunch of black chickens and that has stopped.
Every time my dogs have gotten in it they take off running to the house. I’m sure a determined dog would get through. But your every day nosy dog will run after get popped.
Love the Starkline for our poultry.
It’s worked out great for us! Thanks for watching!
Very helpful and informative. I just purchased the premium poultry all in one kit with your discount code. Thank you!
Nice! You will enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this Video I watched your older videos about the difference in these nettings and this one as well . I appreciate your sharing the knowledge regarding both and sharing your price code or discount . This really help me make a decision & as well this will be my very first netting so very much appreciated it will continue to follow you on all your youtube videos and Social media
Awesome! Glad to know we are helping folks out! Keep us updated on your farming journey! Thanks for watching!
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 Oh Yes Yall Sure is& Most Definitely I sure Will!!!
Hey, just wanna share a little tip with you on any of your fence lines that are slipping down if that is the only issue (here is the fix,)zip ties, zip tie Pole at the bottom will not slip down again and the heavier the zip tie the better, but can really use any of them hope this helps, especially if you mixed matching netting, or if you have any of knitting that slips down. And really all of them needs to be off the ground whether they have plastic tips or not and it also helps to stretcher it. Have a good one.
Thanks for your video! It came up as part of my final Google searches on poultry fencing to be sure Starkline was my choice before putting the order in. Not only did you confirm the choice but your discount code still works! Thank you!.
Good folks over there! You’ll enjoy the products for sure!
Just purchased the fence after watching this video. Thanks for the code and long term honest review.
Thanks for your research and discount code! I ordered the poultry netting
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Great information!!! Extremely helpful!
Just ordered our goat fencing, thanks for the discount code!
Good deal! Glad it helped out!
Thank you for sharing the price savings code!! I am about to setup fencing for my layers and look forward to seeing all the positives you noted! Thanks for reviewing the netting types.
Your welcome! Check out our other videos on Starkline as well! Thanks for watching!
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Thank you for the update!
You’re welcome!
Thanks for the review and the code, saved us $50.
Awesome! Glad it helped!!
Thank you!!!
Don’t forget that discount code! TILLMANFAMILY at checkout! Your welcome!
Really the part about the pole boot on the Starkline being better than Premier I think is of no consequence. If a hot wire is getting that close to the ground, grounding out the fence will happen on either product. Keeping the bottom charged line out of ground proximity is the major thing.
The other problem with Starkline is the 164' net fencing. Even Premier's videos do not properly articulate this problem. 150' lengths like Premier can be very tiring when rolling it up or deploying it. It is heavy and bulky. Notice how few videos show deploying or stowing the fence multiple times. Showing any net fencing on pasture hardly equates to the problems you will have putting through a thicket, or worse still picking all the snagging limbs out of it when you pick it up!
The bigger problem with the Starkline goat fencing is how short it is. That shorter fence is fine if you are handling dwarf breeds, but even my nubian does can clear the taller 48" one by Premier, though that only happened once. They really have to be severely provoked (like being left alone in the paddock) for one to attempt leaping over the fence. Once she had a sister with her she never has tried it again.
The biggest problem with Premier is availability. Customer service is first rate, parts availability is weak. I suspect because demand it very high.
I would avoid the PVC poles too especially in warmer environments. If you have to add pole$ to maintain sturdine$$ you are adding expense. Buy the sturdier fiberglass poles.
The major reason I did not buy Starkline's shorter goat fence is that I think 48" is a little short even from Premier. The poultry netting is taller, but the fence has slightly more resistance, and the problem with goats is that a fence that will stop a cow may only cause a determined goat to look back after charging through the fence. The increased resistance could be, not will be, a problem.
I like Premier's Prima Shock energizer. What is really nice is that it has a meter on it and if it is showing a deterrence level voltage on the meter the fence is operating. The first day I put it out, I heard pops followed by "BAHS!!!!" and by morning even breakfast did not bring a goat closer to the wire than a foot away.
If Starkline ever starts selling a 48" or taller goat fence I may be in the line for that product.
There is no metal at the bottom of Starklined premium pole for the wire to hound out too. Also Starkline does make a 48’ tall sheep and goat netting. I’d say we have about 1000’ or better. And probably a 200 step in post so no worries on the pvc post. I still use because it’s there to use! 🤣 thanks for watching!
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 You mean 48" tall...You'd be snagging helicopters with that one :-].
If they are making a 48" goat fence that is a new kettle of fish. Before 48" fencing was only their poultry netting, which I was unwilling to experiment with. I still would not use the PVC, the rigidity of fiberglass seems to be the way to go, but YMMV.
Regardless of higher impedance all one needs to do is intelligently design their segments for the energizers they have. I am a fan of the prima shock as it seems to be used worldwide and for animals even more difficult to deter. Once I learned how to use the meter on the unit, just walking by I can tell if the energizers segments are working properly.
My major ding on Starkline was no 48". So it will be necessary at some point to evaluate some Starkline. The major negative with Premier was availability. They are frequently out of some products especial pos/neg fencing which I do not need in my climate.
I am certainly going to look more closely at Starkline, because someone wants me to manage a new goat and sheep operation. With as much fencing this might entail a mixture of Starkline and Timeless fencing sounds enticing.
Watched several of your videos today. Cannot find code anywhere. I want to order today!! Also haven't heard what state you're in. Love to know to compare weather, predators, etc.
Can we use our solar charger we already have?
The discount code for Starkline Netting is Tillmanfamily all one work. It should work with any fence charger that is strong enough to charge the whole fence. Thanks for watching!
Guys can I ask the dumb question - I am assuming that the bottom black ‘wire’ on the netting is not metal? As of course it is going to be in contact with the ground and short out…. I am just asking as I have just pinned that down with about 200 metal stakes/ tent pins!!! Great videos by the way. Apologies if you explained that in the video or previous clips
You’re good!! It’s not conductive
Amazing video, so glad I found this before purchasing premium One! Just not sure which Energizer to get, to keep out predators like, Bears coyotes and fox? Any help would be appreciated! 🙌🙏
Gallagher has a predator setting once you get to the S40 series. Same shock but the charger pulses faster on that setting. Look up that charger on the Gallagher site. Use our Starkline discount code if you buy the netting. It’s 10% off. Code: Tillmanfamily at checkout. Thanks for watching!
Looking into this fence to keep squirrels out of my vegetable garden. Would you recommend this fence for that purpose?
I’m afraid that it may not help much for squirrels. Though I’ve never tried it for that specific reason. So maybe? If you try let us know!!
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 will do, thank you
Thank you
No problem! They are good folks over at Starkline! Thanks for watching!
Is the gate universal or any of the poultry netting fences
Yes! You can use it with just about any netting. I’d recommend the alligator clips with other brands. Remember we have a discount code with Starkline! Use TILLMANFAMILY thanks for watching!
The issue is I want a green colored fence to blend in and Starkline doesn't seem to carry that color.
Ahhh! Yes I’m pretty sure they don’t have green. I’ve seen a lot of colors in other brands but I don’t recall green.
I don't know what kind of kickback Starkline gives you, but I bought the goat fence because of your videos, and it's absolute garbage. My very small goat destroyed it almost immediately. I couldn't be more disappointed in a product.
I’m sorry to hear that! We’ve never had a problem. We have sheep, goats, pigs and chickens in it. We have had to cull animals in the past that don’t respect the electric fence.
Do you have to have a closed circuit to have the fencing energized? I have both sides butting up to opposite sides of a shed, but can not get the fence to be hot, what the heck am I doing wrong? I didnt think it mattered if it was run in a straight line, it would still be hot? Thanks
Do you keep the solar energizer covered or out in the open?
It has to be in the open so the solar panel gets good light to keep it charged.
Hi there, I found your channel while researching electric fences. I am looking to protect a large garden from racoons, rabbits, feral cats and opposum. If you were me which of the Starkline product would you choose? Any direction you can offer would be greatly appreciated. I'm pretty new to all this and am not sure which fencing option might be the best fit for my needs.
I would use the 48” tall premium poultry netting. The hole are smaller which makes it a great choice to protect against small animals. Charger depends on how close to power you are. One you can plug into a cord would be best. Thanks for watching. Hope this helps! If you buy Starkline use discount code tillmanfamily at checkout for 10% off.
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 Thank you so much for your input and a reminder on the discount code which I will happily apply! Appreciate it!
What solar energizer do you use for the netting?
We use Gallagher S20’s and S40’s. Don’t forget there is a discount code on Starkline netting! Enter “Tillmanfamily” at checkout for 10% off. Thanks for watching!!
Chris, How are you? I was wondering, do you have any issues with feral pigs trying to get into your sounders? I'm in the middle GA area and we had some pigs in a grow out pen that when butchered, they were all full of pig embryos. Later, we found a roving boar in the area and determined HE was the culprit because he didn't care about wooden or electric fences.
No. We are lucky. We are right above Columbus. Wild pigs are south, east and north east. We have been blessed to not have that problem. YET!! Good luck with them. They are a terrible problem! Thanks for watching!
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 They ARE horrible. IT IS a blessing for you all. We're east of Perry (Agricenter), they had to trap them in the city there.
Thank you for sharing.
quick question, I have the chicken version, but it is short, did you ever have any problems with the chickens flying or jumping over the netting, I have one chicken who thinks it Michael Jordon.
🤣yeah there are some birds that just do what they want. We have a duck the flies in and out. Normally when we introduce the birds to netting we will clip at least one wing.
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 I guess now I go search UA-cam on how to clip wings. 🤣 Thank you for responding!!!
It’s easy!! Use scissors. Take one wing and pull it out. You’re only cutting feathers. There will be long flight features that’s what you cut. Just cut them even with the next row of feathers. I’ll do a short video this afternoon or tomorrow.
@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 thank you so mich!
No problem.
how do you think this would work around a garden to keep rabbits and groundhogs out?
Not sure it would work great on them. But we don’t have any research to say that it won’t help. Thanks for watching!
Would this fencing keep large turkeys in?
We have a hard time keeping turkeys in poultry netting that’s good and hot.
I'm looking at chicken fencing. Does this keep mink and other small predators out? Any problems with animals digging under?
I’ll be honest. In my location (middle Georgia) we don’t have small predators like mink. We have never had a fox, coyote or wild dog dig under it. Those squares I would think a mink would go right through. But if you’re use a really hefty charger it would be hard for them not to get hit. Our herding dogs mess up and get hit every now and then and take off like a rocket back to the house.
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 wow, light predation, I'm jealous! 🤣 In WV, we've got, just about, everything! I've got a .1 J charger I used for horses and hogs. I saw you have a good sized pen, what size charger do you use, or recommend? Likin' the channel!
The biggest charger I use is a Gallagher S40. It hurts. Trust me. I run the cows on it as they move. Most of the pigs and chickens run on a Gallagher S20 with no issues. Every now and then the birds will fly out for whatever reason. If we don’t catch them they don’t last long!!! We are now running around 300 egg layers so we normally have to walk up on a pile of feathers to even know ones gone. We have had trouble with airborne attacks more than anything. Hawks, owls and Osprey. We added a bunch of black chickens and that has stopped.
Also if decide to buy Starkline we have a discount code with them. 10% off. Use code “tillmamfamily” at checkout.
@@tillmanfamilyfarm7759 thank you.
Do the chicken's get shocked with this netting
Yes. They can. But for some reason it doesn’t seem to affect the chicken like it does the pigs.
Would this keep dogs out
Every time my dogs have gotten in it they take off running to the house. I’m sure a determined dog would get through. But your every day nosy dog will run after get popped.
Hard to believe these reviews when YOU SELL THEM 🙄
I don’t sell them. I’m in the service business. Electrical, plumbing and Air. Part time farmer here.
You’re a jerk. These products are great, we use them on our farm. Go troll someone else.