hey mate, great vid. I live in Sweden and use the 23cm Mouse, you get great hits. I always use a weight at the front and reel in slow with occasional pauses, usually on the pause you get a hit. Cheers
Nick - great vid as usual. Nice to see you trying suggested lures - I also bought "The Mouse" - part of me is terrified to use it as that's £35+ down the drain on a snag in what may be your first cast. Never had any joy with the Salmo Slider - but have on Salmo Fanatics and Frisky. Always found the Rapala Jointed Shad Rap, Salmo Hornet, the Rapala Jointed X-Rap, SPRO Iris Jointed Underdog and Ikiru (though the Ikiru is like rocking horse sh*t to find!) very good. A very old saying that "Lures catch more anglers than fish" is very true - we arm ourselves with a plethora of lures - and 99% of the times we won't use them. Still, we carry them just on the off chance that it will be "their day". Hopefully bump into you on the Upper Lea someday....
Hi Nick, enjoyed the video and although it was a bit tongue in cheek when I said I didn't appreciate the cover of the video on facebook I take back. A few things that may help with the mouse going forward for you. First of all the I would add a second split ring of the front hook, you will find that a lot of takes are head first so the extra split ring helps the lure hang better. Secondly always nick the back hook into the tail, don't bury it just enough to take the cast, it helps with hook ups and stops it connecting with the front hook on the cast. Weight wise start with 5g and work up from there. When fishing on rivers from the boat I start with around 12g to keep them down in the water column due to the flow. Another thing to consider is the tail, although I sell them for a living I personally prefer a large curly tail to give the bait a bigger profile. You hit the nail on the head with what makes the lure do so well an its all about profile in the water especially with a stop start retrieve, the pulsing of the deer hair gives it a much larger and more realistic profile but once engulfed there is very little to stop the hooks penetrating.. Have a look at my Ireland trip with Pierre and my PB video to see how I use them.
Amazing Ady … you’re an absolute star! ⭐️ Do you mind if I publish this feedback to help others use the mouse more effectively? Probably on the LOTB bank blog. Was going to play with the LMAB Jika weights on the front. What do you reckon? Will watch that video now. Cheers again 👍👍
Not a problem at all Nick. I will message you a picture of the weighting system that works for me. BFT tungsten sinkers and 10g svartzonker button weights.
Nice vid, my most consistent producer is a silver 3/4 oz Williams Wabler spoon, replace the treble with a 3/0 single hook and thread on a 3" Mr Twister. A white twister seems to have nearly universal appeal, but you can easily tweak the color according to taste/ conditions. If you upsize the plastic you can make that spoon fish like a jerkbait or even a topwater.
LMAB drink dancer is good when left to hit the Bottom. Then two or three turns with rod high in the air. Let it drop again. I use it on a wide deep river, caught pike and a 1.85mtr 50kg Catfish. 😊thnjs for the videos🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sounds like great advice that’s. I often like to let lures hit the bottom periodically. That at you know you’re working the area just above the deck. 👍👍👍
Been waiting for this video Nick well done. A few quids worth of lures there as well. The mouse thing i have to say is just bizzare makes you wonder what else these beasts will attack if they get a chance. One lure i had a load of success with last season was the Rapala X rap peto in both 14 and 20cm. Did very well on the mirror carp version and scaled roach. Anyway well done again and looking forward to the next vid and roll on 1st October when we can get back after them on the rivers. Just a quick question if i may i noticed towards the end of your vid you holding up an orange roachy shad type lure. It had a weight attached to your stinger under the belly where did you get that from please. I have noticed a couple of my lures swim a bit high in the water and sometimes to one side. Looks like that weight might be the answer. Cheers Nick 👍
I think it Is a fox rage stinger. Seen It used on their channel for their jointed pro shads that sometimes need that weight under to swim correctly. Try searching around these lines. The lure he holds is Ricky the roach 14cm and it is a superb lure for river fishing here in south Sweden, my best soft bait Catcher and I have ALL different soft baits. Can't recommend it highly enough, especially as they have splendid natural looking colors too. And a 18cm 95g bigger brother, that's one chunky meal.
Try slider 7cm in real roach, sinking version. Big fish magnet. I've got few bigger ones and they only catching me jacks. Not always big lures catching big fish. Tight lines!
@@Lifeonthebank understandable! The slider i would fish with a short jerk and pause for second or so then repeat. The mouse I’d let it sink then either a constant slow retrieve or retrieve and pause to allow it to sink then repeat. Slow it down with the mouse as you will still get the same action at a v slow pace. 👍🤙
I just bought myself a savage gear suicide duck, going to look like a bit of a dickhead throwing that out, but any topwater take on it will make my day. This video couldn't have come at a better time, I literally bought myself a 10g-40g rod to start going for some bigger pike, rather than my light spinning rod.
I use a fastach weight (7-15g) on the mouse, unless like you said I'm fishing shallow water. The bigger lure is ridiculously good fished low and slow I've found. I bought a new savage gear baitcasting rod 120-220g casting weight just to chuck the bigger mouse 😂😂
Yeah, my rod in the video is 100g. Ok for the smaller mouse but not the bigger one. In some swims I added a 7g Cheb weight to the front but I think the LMAB Jika Sinkers look like a better option to clip on and off depending on the swim 👍
Darts have a fast clip weights system in a box for around 15-20e where you get 3* of many different weights. That's what's used most here in Sweden. Fast and easy and with a box for the weights. Check it out.
kind of interesting to see that all the suggestions are of similar asction and style, those lmab shads, zander shads, gunki shads and westin shads are all the same 😬 could have saved 20 quid 😂😂
@@Lifeonthebank yeah watched the who thing was a great watch. i dont mean like every lure is the same but the action on the majority are the same, the shape doesnt mean a great deal the westin and zander shad have large paddles and more belly roll to the kofi which has a faster smaller tail but still has side flash the same as the other but if you hit some deeper water it will find depth better since it has less resistance from the paddle but the grand scheme of things they are exactly the same bait, the gunki will be the same as the fox and westin in every way. colour on the other had is superficial caught jsut as many fish on all black or all white lures as i have something that looks like a roach or bright green. also the mouse pushes alot of water with its fluff and flat nose and will easily pull fish up from 20ft of water and its great with long slow pauses it will get inhailed 💪
I use a svartzonker black series rod jacob lexe edition with up to 200g and a Shimano tranx 401 for the big lures, but for the big mouse with a gator catfish trailer is 200g not enough
A lot cheaper if you buy from EU. I got a dozen 23cm in various colours for just over £18 each from a tackle shop in Germany when I was working out there. UK prices are daft. I've had two different pike over 30lbs on them so far from a trout water near where I live. Quite a few 20's as well. Fish mine with 23cm Pig Shads instead of the twin tails.
Yeah right mate and I bet they look like a lump of shit. There's a video showing how they're made by the Italian fella who invented them, it's quite a complex process. Just makes me laugh when some Noddy thinks they can knock one up with a wine bottle cork and some cheap bucktail. Good luck.
A mouse on surface like a real rat rats work well snake food whole rat frozen defrost shape so it looks real tjen freeze big 20s pike eat pike a 30 will atack a 10lb swallow it head first the dream pike 50lb most dams above they eat rabbits at game dealer with fur looks mad throwing out a rabbit till you get the pike they have long memories Aigas dam the pike take whole salmon I bought a pear wood tuna rod for the giant halabit they are everywhere west coast in inland whole salmon heads 6 feet over 1000lb on utube .tight lines
hey mate, great vid. I live in Sweden and use the 23cm Mouse, you get great hits. I always use a weight at the front and reel in slow with occasional pauses, usually on the pause you get a hit. Cheers
"What d'ya do? Do you let it sink to the bottom, or...?"
Nick, it's a mouse, mate!
Can they hold their breath and dive deep?!
😆
😂😂 clueless 😂😂 although, have been told by Ady (see below - sales rep for Strike Pro, makers of the mouse) to add 5g of weight and then work upwards.
@@Lifeonthebank Cool! He'd know then wouldn't he!
Nick - great vid as usual.
Nice to see you trying suggested lures - I also bought "The Mouse" - part of me is terrified to use it as that's £35+ down the drain on a snag in what may be your first cast.
Never had any joy with the Salmo Slider - but have on Salmo Fanatics and Frisky. Always found the Rapala Jointed Shad Rap, Salmo Hornet, the Rapala Jointed X-Rap, SPRO Iris Jointed Underdog and Ikiru (though the Ikiru is like rocking horse sh*t to find!) very good.
A very old saying that "Lures catch more anglers than fish" is very true - we arm ourselves with a plethora of lures - and 99% of the times we won't use them. Still, we carry them just on the off chance that it will be "their day".
Hopefully bump into you on the Upper Lea someday....
Hi Nick, enjoyed the video and although it was a bit tongue in cheek when I said I didn't appreciate the cover of the video on facebook I take back. A few things that may help with the mouse going forward for you. First of all the I would add a second split ring of the front hook, you will find that a lot of takes are head first so the extra split ring helps the lure hang better. Secondly always nick the back hook into the tail, don't bury it just enough to take the cast, it helps with hook ups and stops it connecting with the front hook on the cast. Weight wise start with 5g and work up from there. When fishing on rivers from the boat I start with around 12g to keep them down in the water column due to the flow. Another thing to consider is the tail, although I sell them for a living I personally prefer a large curly tail to give the bait a bigger profile. You hit the nail on the head with what makes the lure do so well an its all about profile in the water especially with a stop start retrieve, the pulsing of the deer hair gives it a much larger and more realistic profile but once engulfed there is very little to stop the hooks penetrating.. Have a look at my Ireland trip with Pierre and my PB video to see how I use them.
Amazing Ady … you’re an absolute star! ⭐️ Do you mind if I publish this feedback to help others use the mouse more effectively? Probably on the LOTB bank blog. Was going to play with the LMAB Jika weights on the front. What do you reckon? Will watch that video now. Cheers again 👍👍
Not a problem at all Nick. I will message you a picture of the weighting system that works for me. BFT tungsten sinkers and 10g svartzonker button weights.
Nice vid, my most consistent producer is a silver 3/4 oz Williams Wabler spoon, replace the treble with a 3/0 single hook and thread on a 3" Mr Twister. A white twister seems to have nearly universal appeal, but you can easily tweak the color according to taste/ conditions. If you upsize the plastic you can make that spoon fish like a jerkbait or even a topwater.
Brilliant, like the slider . The mouse looks like it should be in the Ann Summers shop ,but hey it works 👍
😂😂👌 Definitely caught a few fish. Thanks for checking out the video 👍👍👍
LMAB drink dancer is good when left to hit the Bottom. Then two or three turns with rod high in the air. Let it drop again. I use it on a wide deep river, caught pike and a 1.85mtr 50kg Catfish. 😊thnjs for the videos🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sounds like great advice that’s. I often like to let lures hit the bottom periodically. That at you know you’re working the area just above the deck. 👍👍👍
There's nothing better than spinning and a big bow wave following it ,,big lures big fish 🐠
Lures near the surface are so cool for this! 👌👌👌
Great show Nick ,some lovely lures mate. I will give them a try. When I can . Can’t wait till the next video.
Cheers Trevor … thanks for checking out the video as always 👍👍👍
Loving the content mate, I only took up fishing 6 weeks ago. Your rig setup tips, and film quality are fantastic, keep it up, I'm learning loads
Really appreciate the feedback 👌👏👏👏
Just looked at the price of the mouse lure 😢 don’t think I’ll be getting one and loosing that up a tree 😂 great video again keeping it real 👍
😂 yep!
Good fun ... Interesting fishing...those sliders /gliders... wouldn't mind giving them a go...
The Salmo Slider casts so well …. Like a bullet 🚀
Great vid as always Nick, hope you and the viewers have a great season ahead 👍👍
Thanks, and you mate. Spring is an awesome time to be on the bank. Good luck!! 👍
Been waiting for this video Nick well done. A few quids worth of lures there as well. The mouse thing i have to say is just bizzare makes you wonder what else these beasts will attack if they get a chance. One lure i had a load of success with last season was the Rapala X rap peto in both 14 and 20cm. Did very well on the mirror carp version and scaled roach. Anyway well done again and looking forward to the next vid and roll on 1st October when we can get back after them on the rivers. Just a quick question if i may i noticed towards the end of your vid you holding up an orange roachy shad type lure. It had a weight attached to your stinger under the belly where did you get that from please. I have noticed a couple of my lures swim a bit high in the water and sometimes to one side. Looks like that weight might be the answer. Cheers Nick 👍
I think it Is a fox rage stinger. Seen It used on their channel for their jointed pro shads that sometimes need that weight under to swim correctly. Try searching around these lines. The lure he holds is Ricky the roach 14cm and it is a superb lure for river fishing here in south Sweden, my best soft bait Catcher and I have ALL different soft baits. Can't recommend it highly enough, especially as they have splendid natural looking colors too. And a 18cm 95g bigger brother, that's one chunky meal.
Its fun to watch what people consider “Big” baits. Anything under 23 cm is a normal sized lure and belov 15 cm is small where I come from
A great mini series. Thank you.
CHEERS 👍👍👍 Thankfully out of winter and into spring now!!! A great time of year to be out fishing!!!!
Always look forward to the next video
Cheers mate. Always appreciate the support 👍👍🙏
Try slider 7cm in real roach, sinking version.
Big fish magnet.
I've got few bigger ones and they only catching me jacks.
Not always big lures catching big fish.
Tight lines!
Salmo I guess right? Will give it a try. Thanks mate 👍👍👍
@@Lifeonthebank Salmo,yes
The mouse works well in the dark I've had a lot of good fish in the dark on it
Great series, thx
Get a baitcaster reel Nick for the big lures you'll never look back 👍
Sounds like good advice 👍👍👍
Definitely rating the lmab lures I use these and have had great results
Lots of anglers recommended the Kofi Shads 👌👌 Zander Skin a great colour option.
You can spend £35 on a mouse, or stick a cheap twin tail on the back of a £5 jig fly for the same action at a fraction of the price.
So excited for this
Thanks mate. Hope you enjoy!! 👍👍👍
Super what rod do you use? Miuras mouse is the one. Small? Very nice I'll watch you
You were fishing the mouse how I’d fish the slider haha and visa versa. Worked well though
Ha ha … any advice welcome on my retrieve. Wasn’t always sure how best to fish all the new lures 😂👍👍👍
@@Lifeonthebank understandable! The slider i would fish with a short jerk and pause for second or so then repeat. The mouse I’d let it sink then either a constant slow retrieve or retrieve and pause to allow it to sink then repeat. Slow it down with the mouse as you will still get the same action at a v slow pace. 👍🤙
Makes sense. Thanks, I think slow with the mouse is definitely the best option. I’ll give it a go!!! 👍
I just bought myself a savage gear suicide duck, going to look like a bit of a dickhead throwing that out, but any topwater take on it will make my day.
This video couldn't have come at a better time, I literally bought myself a 10g-40g rod to start going for some bigger pike, rather than my light spinning rod.
Good luck on the duck!!! Yeah, very much enjoyed binned off finesse for a bit and going LARGE!!! 👍👍😂😂
The mouse is expensive, but wait until you discover the strike Pro guppie 😂 theres a load of money gone 😅 kuma swim also another recommendation
Hello Nick, what river are you fishing in this video pl?
Hi nick, just wondering what weight jighead you were using for the kofi shads please?
12g I think from memory 👍
I use a fastach weight (7-15g) on the mouse, unless like you said I'm fishing shallow water. The bigger lure is ridiculously good fished low and slow I've found. I bought a new savage gear baitcasting rod 120-220g casting weight just to chuck the bigger mouse 😂😂
Yeah, my rod in the video is 100g. Ok for the smaller mouse but not the bigger one. In some swims I added a 7g Cheb weight to the front but I think the LMAB Jika Sinkers look like a better option to clip on and off depending on the swim 👍
Darts have a fast clip weights system in a box for around 15-20e where you get 3* of many different weights. That's what's used most here in Sweden. Fast and easy and with a box for the weights. Check it out.
Which net are u using?
Fox Rage folding Speedflow net 👍👍👍
Weight to be added as needed with mouse
Yeah, kinda got to grips with it in the end!
kind of interesting to see that all the suggestions are of similar asction and style, those lmab shads, zander shads, gunki shads and westin shads are all the same 😬 could have saved 20 quid 😂😂
Nope … don’t agree. Yeah, theres a few shads but the profiles, size and colours are all different 😂
And what about the mouse, sliders, glide baits, drunk dancer … did you actually watch the video? 😂😂😂
@@Lifeonthebank yeah watched the who thing was a great watch. i dont mean like every lure is the same but the action on the majority are the same, the shape doesnt mean a great deal the westin and zander shad have large paddles and more belly roll to the kofi which has a faster smaller tail but still has side flash the same as the other but if you hit some deeper water it will find depth better since it has less resistance from the paddle but the grand scheme of things they are exactly the same bait, the gunki will be the same as the fox and westin in every way. colour on the other had is superficial caught jsut as many fish on all black or all white lures as i have something that looks like a roach or bright green. also the mouse pushes alot of water with its fluff and flat nose and will easily pull fish up from 20ft of water and its great with long slow pauses it will get inhailed 💪
The miuras mouse in the big version is my favorite for pike fishing.
What gram rod is best for the biggun?
I use a svartzonker black series rod jacob lexe edition with up to 200g and a Shimano tranx 401 for the big lures, but for the big mouse with a gator catfish trailer is 200g not enough
Never used the big mouse. I only have 100g rod so I’d need to upgrade!
a shimano tranx 301 would suffice but couldn't buy one anywhere for many months of searching
Iv seen alot of hype about the mouse but I think alot of us have too think twice at about £30 a pop.
A lot cheaper if you buy from EU. I got a dozen 23cm in various colours for just over £18 each from a tackle shop in Germany when I was working out there. UK prices are daft. I've had two different pike over 30lbs on them so far from a trout water near where I live. Quite a few 20's as well. Fish mine with 23cm Pig Shads instead of the twin tails.
Miuras mouse is very easy to make for a lot less money
Got any videos of you making one?
@@Lifeonthebank I'll give it a go mate. Or I could send photos of each stage.
@@Lifeonthebank bekedfishing on UA-cam show an excellent tutorial video if that helps. I've not got any camera equipment sorry mate.
Yeah right mate and I bet they look like a lump of shit. There's a video showing how they're made by the Italian fella who invented them, it's quite a complex process. Just makes me laugh when some Noddy thinks they can knock one up with a wine bottle cork and some cheap bucktail. Good luck.
The last ones was called LMAB Drunk Bait
Cheers mate, knew it was LMAB but forgot the name. Decent lure?
Yes they are, they just released a new size in 20cm i believe, and you still need a jigfly
Definitely do need a jig fly .. mentioned by a few now. Cheers 👍👍👍
A mouse on surface like a real rat rats work well snake food whole rat frozen defrost shape so it looks real tjen freeze big 20s pike eat pike a 30 will atack a 10lb swallow it head first the dream pike 50lb most dams above they eat rabbits at game dealer with fur looks mad throwing out a rabbit till you get the pike they have long memories Aigas dam the pike take whole salmon I bought a pear wood tuna rod for the giant halabit they are everywhere west coast in inland whole salmon heads 6 feet over 1000lb on utube .tight lines