I mean you could hit someone with a hammer just as easily. Heavy industrial scale construction equipment in general tends to be heavy, dangerous and easily misused. Google the "Killdozer" for just one example. The Gauntlets could be weapons, sure, but almost anything could be. Jayce's issue isn't that he didn't consider they'd be used as weapons, thats the wrong part of the scene to focus on. Jayce's flaw lies in the line "mining colonies in the fissures can work faster and without fatigue". That's not what would happen, what would happen is quotas would just double or tripple and/or the employed workforce would be downsized to cut cost. Jayce is operating on the assumption that his devices would be used to benefit the people in need in UC, when the entire system their city is built on ensures the only people these things will help are those who already have power.
@@iwillcry They are from the Freljord which is based on Ancient Scandinavia so that tracks. The Freljord was also the snowy region Jayce and his mother Ximena Talis got frostbite in in Episode 2.
yeah I definitely agree. but it’s a REAL HIGH standard. maybe a little too high even, it’s impeccable but way too risky to make. fortiche and riot got lucky but i doubt that we will see that kind of project before a few years. they nearly shut down the project while production as seen in Arcane : Bridging the Rift (the BTS)
@@masekyn5480 I'm of the view that if you're going into the business of storytelling through art you MUST not only be tolerant to taking high risks, but actively counting the cost of it or risk swimming amongst a sea of mediocrity and noise.
It’s computer generated 3D graphic. But then they painted the texture on the 3D models, including shadows and highlights (instead of letting the computer generate the lighting)! That’s why everything feels like an oil painting. And the amount of detail in the facial expressions is breathtaking.
Cait and Vi are the buddy cop duo you never knew you needed. They are the focus of the story in my opinion because they perfectly balance the topside vs under city dynamic at play throughout the entire show.
Cait and Vi Jace and Viktor Grayson and Vander Marcus and Silco Heimerdinger and Ekko There's a surprising amount of crossover in relationships between the two halves of the city.
I don't know how often they watch or what the lag time is getting the reactions to UA-cam, but don't you think that comment was a bit premature? Just couldn't wait to post it, eh?
@@jonathanbaird Completely serious. I quite honestly had never looked at the text of any of those inserts, thinking they were just some "advertising." And now I know. Thanks for your insight.
The problem with Heimerdinger's words to Jace and Viktor is that he's immortal so time means nothing to him but Jace and Viktor are mortal so their time is limited, especially Viktor's.
Understandable. But they are racing head first into things without considering consequences. That's basically Jayce's whole story. Good intentions, clueless about consequences.
@@28starwarsfan yes, but too much caution and delayed time allows Silco to grow his influence. Sometimes racing head first is the correct thing to do. If you never help because of fear of hurting, then you'll never help. Thats how Silco grows his strength, providing solutions that help zaun whilst piltover provides nothing.
Personaly I despise Heimerdinger. He founded this city and has been on the ruling counsel for 200 years. Yet he let the situation deteriorate to the point were half the population lived underground in miserable condition, breathing toxic air. At any point in history he could have acted but he never did, he does't even seem to consider there might something wrong with the situation. Even the "words of wisdom" he give to other are just common platitude and as a leader he is an utter faillure.
@@28starwarsfan People use deadly tools in their trade all the time. It doesn't take 10 years of research to figure out a protocol to safeguard those tools. Of course no protocol is perfect but even without protocol the stones will eventually find their way out of the lab. I mean the gemstone was stolen the same day they showed it to Heimerdinger for the first time xD So what good were the ten years of research then? Heimerdinger has some valid concerns but he never actually take the right steps to address them, instead waiting for a "perfect" solution when there will never be one. And in the meantime he allows things to degenerate just like he did with his own city.
The thing with the eye is a lancet for relieving pressure buildup not a hypodermic. The device didn't have any shimmer in it, just a needle designed to puncture. My guess is the condition of his eye now is a partially successful result of an early attempt by Singed to heal using shimmer.
Anakin Skywalker was a grown man who chose his family and the dark side of the Force over the greater good and his loyalties to the Jedi and the Republic. Willfully committing heinous acts to gain the power needed to control life and death. Powder was a child driven mad by all the death and abuse surrounding her. Becoming Jinx. Big difference.
Studio Fortiche is so good. They made me give a shit about LoL just with the strength of their art direction on this show. In the previous episode you find out that Marcus sold out his own people to SIlco because he hated that she was working with the "Trenchers" and that resulted in Grayson's death. So basically he probably did care that his own people got killed but he linked himself to t he bad guys. Him stealing Vi away and hiding her in prison for like a decade was the best, worst thing he could have done.
The device Jinx used on Silko was an air-pressurized hollow needle that's used to relieve pressure buildup in Silco's damaged eye, it doesn't actually inject shimmer, which most people seem to mistakingly think. The little bit of purple ooze is coming out of his eye as the pressure is relived.
Just to be clear, it was Cait’s parents who got her removed from her detail on the Enforcers, not Jace. Jace was telling her that after they did that, the best position he could get her was as a part of his personal security detail, which given that he’s a counselor is likely an important position, even if it’s mostly behind a desk. Jace is genuinely just trying to be helpful to her. She is his oldest friend after all, and the only person who truly sympathized with him when he was expelled from the Academy, while he was shunned by most others.
This is one of the greatest pieces of animation i've ever watched. It's not really what you guys do but I highly recommend going through the 5 part behind the scenes episodes of the production of the series once you're done. You guys are very perceptive and pick up on stuff immediately and BTS kinda wraps it all up.
I would describe the art style as "stylized", it's quite popular these days in games. It's kind of a blend of realistic lighting, & physics but with "soft" hand-painted textures. It's definitely the current trend in video games and my own favorite too, it works extremely well in an animated show, that's for sure. I think going for this look is much easier on the eyes too and it won't give any weird uncanny valley effects you get from going for too much realism. It kind of gives you the vibe of 2D cartoons while actually being 3d models. It's harder than you'd think though, it's much easier making a realistic metal texture than it is to make a stylized one. Because it has to look like it has the properties of metal (shiny, uneven etc) but still look painted. I'm slowly adapting to that type of art, but it can be really tricky to know how to balance it. The artists behind Arcane are the best of the best! Everyone in the game industry were talking about how impressive the art is for a long time, even to this day people reference it and use it as inspiration for their own work. Sorry for the nerd essay but it's not often I get to discuss textures lol
> It's harder than you'd think though, it's much easier making a realistic metal texture than it is to make a stylized one. Ain't nobody doing original realistic metal textures in 2024, time is money and often people making games/animations don't have any time. You are also overhyping Arcane's animation, it's amazing for sure but it's nothing groundbreaking. Just look at any Studio Ghibli movie or Spiderverse movies. You are practically insulting amazing stuff other animators are creating right now or have created prior. You can't possibly think Arcane holds a candle to any Studio Ghibli movie. I guess you could say Arcane is groundbreaking being made by fully Western team.
@@minartson No offense but you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about... Every studio has plenty of texture artists, I am one myself. I'm just saying that making realistic materials is much easier than doing stylized but you wouldn't think so considering one seems simpler. Also majority of game studios goes for realistic materials, stylized is still the minority but it is becoming more popular recently especially among FPS games. No clue where you got the "no one has time" from. Any proper studio does everything by hand, all textures, models etc. I think you completely misunderstood my comment.... Also Into the spiderverse does not have better textures than Arcane, not even close. It has impressive animation and editing though. Comparing it to anime is also nonsense considering Arcane is 3D models painted to give a 2d feeling. Anime isn't textured, it's drawn.. Not sure where you think your expertise comes from but you don't understand the difference between animation and textures so seems pointless even discussing this with you.
@@minartson Fortische artists were doing this style (2d hand painted SFX, hand painting/stylizing on top of 3d and a non-standard way of lighting) quite some time before the Spiderverse movies were even a thing and like @Quzga pointed out in regards of you mentioning Studio Ghibli, comparing fully hand drawn Anime to Arcane just doesn't make sense. It's totally OK if you're personally not that impressed, but Fortische got a lot of praise from other studios for Arcane and the show probably didn't win 9 Annie awards just for doing what has been done for years...
I'm not going to spoil it until you finish the series but holy hell you made a prediction in this episode faster than any reactor I've seen. I literally play league, and know these champions, and you thought of it before I did. OMG lol.
I'll give 'em this; this show hits all the feels. After the loss in 3, I'm all in for feeling good on Progress Day, and they just made it up. Happy Progress Day!! 🍻
The art studio has a really cool series on the making of arcane. Basically they made 2 whole anime's. One with an old school painting style, and the other with the new normal style, digitally. Then they overlap them and it makes a perfect mix of old school and new art. It's brilliant stuff, and It cost A LOT of money.
Since you are so interested on how they created this masterpiece, there is actually the making of Arcane video series on youtube, that you should deffinetly react to it called "Bridging the rift". The quality of video is amazing and you are gonna be blown away by the effort and energy they put in it. It will also answer the question to why they needed 6 years to make it. PLS just react to it after watching Arcane, and if you dont want to put it on the channel, then just watch it on your own.
You guys should definitely react to the bridging the rift multipart documentary on the making of arcane it’s great to watch if you love the whole artistry of the show.
It's interesting how despite all Heimerdinger's hand-wringing about magic, it still fell into the wrong hands without it ever going public or even being announced. So ultimately his stonewalling Jayce and Viktor didn't help at all, all it did was sandbag their research. Heimer's species is nearly immortal, he won't die of old age, and ontop of that he is both wealthy and one of the most politically influential people in the city, in short the status quo of the city works perfectly fine for him and he loses nothing if Hextech stays in development hell for the next fifty years. All the while people like Viktor, Vi or Powder are living and dying in the polluted slums of the city he founded. It just shows how even someone so seemingly kind and benevolent as him can be so completely, almost willfully blinded by his own privileged to the absolute horrors mere mortal human-beings are suffering right next door. It's an incredible subversion of the common Wise Old Mentor trope as usually the kindly grandfather figure like Heimer in a fantasy story would warn against magic and the story would just say they are 100% right and shouldn't be questioned, but Arcane shows that his wisdom isn't flawless and his actions are as motivated from a flawed perspective as anyone elses.
He was totally right about hextech though. Jinx stealing the gem stone does not change that. And he will keep getting proven right the further the show goes.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 His course of action is only bringing about exactly what he feared would happen. Had he worked with Jayce from the start, he would have been in a position to directly guide and shepherd this burgeoning technology. Instead all he did was stand by and passively try to block its development, which he failed to do at every stage. He failed to prevent their original experiment, he failed to prevent the Hexgates from being built (which themselves are actually only ever shown to be a netpositive for the city, its only Topsides monopoly on their use that is bad for UC), and he failed to prevent them falling into the wrong hands. Once a technology is invented, it cannot be uninvented. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle. If it wasn't Jayce and Viktor that created the tech, it would just have been someone else that Heimer would have had absolutely no involvement with. His own prejudices against magic blinded him to the fact he had practically the best case scenario possible fall right into his lap as his own proteges were the ones to bring this tech to light.. and he squandered it because he is so disconnected from the problems of the people around him that he can't see why solutions are even needed. It's also worth noting that while Hextech is Jayce and Viktor's baby.. it's not actually their goal itself. Jayce and Viktor only care about harnessing magic to begin with because they believe it is the best way to improve the lives of those in need. Had Heimer actually offered a meaningful alternative to help salve the suffering in his city, any meaningful alternative whatsoever, they likely would have pursued that instead. But Heimer doesn't have anything to offer but vague warnings and roadblocks, because his nigh immortality lets him just coast through life with the belief things will just kind of solve themselves even if it takes 100 years all the while being blissfully unaware of the suffering around him.
@@troikas3353 Wait, you cannot be serious. Wdym HE failed? Do you think he has like 10 clones and he can do everything at once? Like, is he the only one there who is supposed to take care of everything? What a load of nonsense. He wanted to destroy the hexcore, but was stopped, which led to Skye dying. It also led to Jayce creating the hextech hammer which also led to death. And finally, it led to Jinx creating a fking hextech rocket launcher and firing it at the council. Yeah, for sure it was his fault. You act like he is omniscient or something.
I don't understand why Jayce gets hate for for asking Caitlyn to join his security team. He didn't try to do it out of malice, and was genuinely trying to help her.
Jayce got the original idea, the crystal and remembered both the runes and the spell which is insane considering how young he was at the time. Viktor however solved a mathematical issue about wave functions that had Jayce stuck for a while in literally one evening. So Viktor's contribution is hardly negligible, he's likely the most mathematically inclined of the two. It's always hard to judge when we don't have all the story but Viktor seems in every way Jayce's equal in this endeavour.
I as a common man don't like the idea of the ruling class type council specifically depriving working class people of things that can help improve lives because our common hands are too dangerous.
It's not the common people that are dangerous, it's the cruel, the selfish, and the ruthless. Those who don't care who they step on to ensure they're the next to reach the top. After all, it isn't really progress if you depose one group of oppressors only to let another take their place. Most people aren't like that. The ones who are ruin it for the rest of us.
I've always felt like Arcane's art is like a 3D oil painting. Done with an eye for perspective so everything would appear 3D, but done in a style that resembles the richness and texture of oil paintings. Personally, I think while certain "old masters" of art from the past might be fascinated by how we make movies...most of them would be far more interested in animation. And this would be the one that gets the most of their attention.
The minute she was revealed in this episode I was like "OH so she's Harley Quinn." Looked it up and the inspiration for the Jinx character apparently was Joker (explains the Harley stuff), Gollum (explains the shifting personalities) and Helena Bonham Carter (no fuckin idea what that explains).
I don't know why I thought it was so funny that she said Marco "Chlorophylled Vi". Like oh yeah he hit her with a substance that produces food and makes her green and concentrated within organisms in structures called chloroplasts.
Man... idk.. maybe I'm just different.. but I kind of figured out Powder/Jinx relationship and Silco right away? Like.. Powder has extreme PTSD, split personality, depression and a lot of other things. Part of her brain is still trapped when her greatest trauma occurred, when she was like what, 9 or 10? Part of her is still that little girl even though she aged quite a few years. So while it's weird to see a girl her age sitting on Silco's lap, it wouldn't be as weird to see a younger her doing so.. which is partially where she is at mentally.
You probably won't read that but girls enforcers have skirt because it's more of a ceremonial outfit, they are in full gear when it's comes to real action or undercity business
Why would Marcus not arrest Vi? My main problem with watching reactions to this series is that people pick favorite characters and then stop thinking logically about the actions taken. Then entire point of the enforcers being in the undercity in those firstn3 episodes is because they had to make an arrest for the person that broke into Jayce's place, that order came from the council. At the end of the day someone has to go to jail for it. It is literally the only good decision that Vi makes all season. It is something Vander understood. Even Powder got it because she had no plans to see Vi come back in episode 3. Just because Silco threw a bag of gold coins at Marcus does not mean that an arrest doesn't need to happen. I don't get how so many people can figure out that Vi has s turning herself in at the end of the second episode only to completely forget all about that plot point an episode later.
When the season starts to really ramp up! Love the discovery of everyone growing up. Awesome reactions you two! Lots of ah ha's and oh shit's coming up, lol. Can't wait :)
the cheering for Jayce standing up for his ideals, in a scene where he is not standing for his ideals and has dissapointed viktor in doing so. Neither Heimerdinger nor Mel where aligned with jayce's ideals. One desired extended caution and delays, whilst the other desired a political playpiece to hold.
Yeah, I guess chugging a Monster before doing your reaction would get u hyped.😄 Ok, just to let u know, the time jump was approximately 7yrs. So, our main cast of characters r about these ages: Vi age 22, Jinx age 18, Ekko age 19, Caitlyn age 23, Jayce age 31, Counselor Mel Medarda age 33, Victor age 35, Silco age 51, Sevika (Silco's right hand woman) age mid-40s & Heimerdinger age 314. I know Marcus basically saved Vi by putting her in prison, but he also did it to be elevated. Poor Vi to be locked away in prison for about 7yrs. Heimerdinger's pet is adorable. I 1st fell in love w/this series because of the stylized artwork & 2ndly for the great story telling. In my opinion, this series is a masterpiece. I only hope Season 2 will be done just as well. I'm still very much enjoying your reactions to this series.😊👍
There isn't an exact term for the art style used by _Arcane,_ but it's what's generally referred to as "painterly," as they were attempting to capture the look and feel of 2D digital concept art for video games, with a sketchy, rough vibe where you can still clearly see brush strokes and other such "imperfections." Riot Games in particular drew a lot of inspiration from early 2000s Blizzard Entertainment game art, as _League of Legends_ grew out of the _Warcraft III_ modding scene. The show itself uses a branch of 3D animation techniques called NPR (non-photorealistic) rendering, which attempts to use CGI to create visuals that look like 2D art, such as paintings, comic books, or anime, rather than trying to achieve photorealism. For most of the last 25 years "cel shading" was the major accomplishment, but over the last several years, really starting with _Into the Spider-verse,_ there has been a lot of effort to advance the medium. _Arcane_ achieves this particular look by using a mixture of traditional 3D animation with lots of painted textures and shading rather than relying on light sources within the scenes, and 2D scene elements and sfx. For example, most if not all of the special effects like flames, dust, and explosions are drawn and animated in 2D.
I highly recommend that before watching episode 7, that you watch the Imagine Dragons "Enemy" video. It will make the episode hit that much harder as it gives some background. Also, once you finish the series, I suggest you watch the "Worlds 2021 Show Open". Consider it a live action version of Arcane.
Marcus saved her in that moment predominantly to assuage his own guilt, but then chucked her in there just to wash his hands of her. It's unlikely he ever even gave her much thought after that, let alone would have likely cared much if she died there. In short he did it for himself, not because of what might happen to her.
@troikas3353 no he was down there because he needed someone to take the fall for the explosion jinx caused. It was gonna be Vander but he was taken by silco. He couldnt go back up top empty handed. Especially after losing all those men. They talked about it a lot, guys
@@zethwhippy3929 The show tells us in dialogue that Vi was put in prison with no record of her name and no description of her crimes, no hint at all as to who she is or why shes there. He tossed her in there completely anonymously just to get rid of her in a manner that would hide what he did from both Silco and his superiors. He did not actually turn her in for the explosion, he just washed his hands of her entirely.
You realize we need an Easy A reaction now. I don't make the rules, it's just the way it is. We need to see Maple and/or Arianna singing along with Emma Stone STAT.
it amazes me to no end how many people just outright don't trust Mel, she's just doing your standard business person stuff and somehow that's shady and mistrustful.
The animation outside s a combination of 3D computer modeling (like your DreamWorks and Pixar animated films) with digitally painted 2D backgrounds (like the older animated films) and light/texture is painted on the models instead of a program rendered like most 3D animations.
You guys definitely weren't alone getting... weird vibes from Silco and Jinx's relationship. It was intentionally made to be uncomfortable, some have gone as far as to say 'emotional incest'. But at the very least, a very toxic co-dependent relationship that Silco has fostered with her because of his own issues.
Jayce gets a bad rap... He's a brilliant scientist, and while Viktor did have to turn his thinking around on how to stabilize the crystals, and is in some ways a better technician, Jayce is exceptionally good at what he does. And, in a lot of ways, he's quite good at a much wider range of things than a lot of others in the show. He's not "better" at anything than some. But he's plenty good enough at a lot. But he's not perfect, and he makes mistakes. And some people kinda shit on him unnecessarily for it.
I may have missed it, but they know that this show and some/most of these characters are from the video game League of Legends right? This show is RIOT Games way of building out the lore of the world their characters come from. And i believe the reason they are doing that is so they can make a MMORPG game in the future and have the backstory/world/and lore to build on.
Yeah, it's about an eight-year time skip, officially. It's even a time skip done really well, in my opinion, since it opens a lot of possibilities and really advances the story.
According to a tweet a while ago, its about 6-7 time skip at most. Powder was about 11 or 12 at the start of the show and vi was about 15 or so. Not to be all pedantic or anything but ye
Powder's gone. There's only Jinx. And Jinx has a severe case of schizophrenia. The end of episode 3 completely wrecked her brain. Powder already had a pile of neuroses relating to abandonment and codependency. They were all pushed to the breaking point with Vander's capture and Vi leaving her behind to go save him. Then "that" event happened, and it sent her absolutely sailing past the edge of sanity. She's only able to function at all because her delusions and hallucinations aren't directly contradictory with reality. But they're pretty extreme nonetheless. Jinx fundamentally has no capacity to differentiate fantasy from reality. And she still has all the neuroses from before...but more severe (and probably some extras, now). And to top it off...nobody in that world has any knowledge or understanding at all of what neurology or psychology are, and there's no such thing as therapists or counselors. That world has no way at all to treat or even diagnose mental illness or its causes.
I’m sure you already editing most of the episodes this season but just fyi riot games doesn’t have issues with people playing their music in reactions and all the music in this show is made by riot games. You shouldn’t have copy strike issues at all
the last two episodes have been extreme nightmares. we havent done watermarks in like 2 years and now we have to for this show. this has been the most difficult show for copyright that we've ever done.
I like how he made these big ass fist for mining but at no point did he ever think someone was gonna punch a person with em 😅
Reminds me of how in the late 90s everyone thought the internet would bring an age of reason to humanity.
I like how the giant fist is almost too heavy to hold, but powering it on somehow allows your biceps to lift things 100 times your weight.
I mean you could hit someone with a hammer just as easily. Heavy industrial scale construction equipment in general tends to be heavy, dangerous and easily misused. Google the "Killdozer" for just one example. The Gauntlets could be weapons, sure, but almost anything could be. Jayce's issue isn't that he didn't consider they'd be used as weapons, thats the wrong part of the scene to focus on. Jayce's flaw lies in the line "mining colonies in the fissures can work faster and without fatigue". That's not what would happen, what would happen is quotas would just double or tripple and/or the employed workforce would be downsized to cut cost. Jayce is operating on the assumption that his devices would be used to benefit the people in need in UC, when the entire system their city is built on ensures the only people these things will help are those who already have power.
I mean... if you think about it there are tons if useful thing that could easily be used as weapons
@@NOWABO I mean, it is literally magic...
So, the cute white fluffy thing is called a Poro. And yes, there are plushies.
didn't know that. poro means reindeer in finnish which makes those little things funnier
@@iwillcry They are from the Freljord which is based on Ancient Scandinavia so that tracks. The Freljord was also the snowy region Jayce and his mother Ximena Talis got frostbite in in Episode 2.
IMO, the animation style of Arcane has become the new gold standard. Absolutely stunning.
NO SOLO LEVELING HAS THAT HONOR BUT I WILL SAY THIS IS A VERY CLOSE SECOND
yeah I definitely agree. but it’s a REAL HIGH standard. maybe a little too high even, it’s impeccable but way too risky to make. fortiche and riot got lucky but i doubt that we will see that kind of project before a few years. they nearly shut down the project while production as seen in Arcane : Bridging the Rift (the BTS)
@@masekyn5480 I'm of the view that if you're going into the business of storytelling through art you MUST not only be tolerant to taking high risks, but actively counting the cost of it or risk swimming amongst a sea of mediocrity and noise.
@@ilikeknives1000go away troll
@@masekyn5480i agree, what they did is just too much for most projects to be able to manage
Mel is moving chess pieces around, but she's more complicated than you think.
And she learned from an absolute unit of a Chess Master.
It’s computer generated 3D graphic. But then they painted the texture on the 3D models, including shadows and highlights (instead of letting the computer generate the lighting)!
That’s why everything feels like an oil painting.
And the amount of detail in the facial expressions is breathtaking.
The backgrounds are also almost entirely 2D and layered and warped in such a way that makes it look 3D
Love the scene where Jinx is rocking out to her theme from her 2013 debut video
That music video hits so much different now after Arcane lol
Cait and Vi are the buddy cop duo you never knew you needed. They are the focus of the story in my opinion because they perfectly balance the topside vs under city dynamic at play throughout the entire show.
Cait and Vi
Jace and Viktor
Grayson and Vander
Marcus and Silco
Heimerdinger and Ekko
There's a surprising amount of crossover in relationships between the two halves of the city.
I don't know how often they watch or what the lag time is getting the reactions to UA-cam, but don't you think that comment was a bit premature? Just couldn't wait to post it, eh?
@@No1Knows ...are you serious? It's at the beginning of every video (0:39). They're 3-4 episodes ahead.
@@jonathanbaird Completely serious. I quite honestly had never looked at the text of any of those inserts, thinking they were just some "advertising." And now I know. Thanks for your insight.
also they are there to be shipped heavily by the LGBTQI+ crew 😃👍
The problem with Heimerdinger's words to Jace and Viktor is that he's immortal so time means nothing to him but Jace and Viktor are mortal so their time is limited, especially Viktor's.
Understandable.
But they are racing head first into things without considering consequences.
That's basically Jayce's whole story. Good intentions, clueless about consequences.
You'd think an immortal scientist would be well aware of that
@@28starwarsfan yes, but too much caution and delayed time allows Silco to grow his influence. Sometimes racing head first is the correct thing to do. If you never help because of fear of hurting, then you'll never help. Thats how Silco grows his strength, providing solutions that help zaun whilst piltover provides nothing.
Personaly I despise Heimerdinger. He founded this city and has been on the ruling counsel for 200 years. Yet he let the situation deteriorate to the point were half the population lived underground in miserable condition, breathing toxic air. At any point in history he could have acted but he never did, he does't even seem to consider there might something wrong with the situation. Even the "words of wisdom" he give to other are just common platitude and as a leader he is an utter faillure.
@@28starwarsfan People use deadly tools in their trade all the time. It doesn't take 10 years of research to figure out a protocol to safeguard those tools. Of course no protocol is perfect but even without protocol the stones will eventually find their way out of the lab. I mean the gemstone was stolen the same day they showed it to Heimerdinger for the first time xD So what good were the ten years of research then?
Heimerdinger has some valid concerns but he never actually take the right steps to address them, instead waiting for a "perfect" solution when there will never be one. And in the meantime he allows things to degenerate just like he did with his own city.
Watching Arianna and Maples chemistry grow together over these series has been great.
This show is perfection to me.
Vi all tatted up and jacked 😍 its giving Sara Conner doing time up at Pescadero vibes!!!!
Arianna calling out it being Little Man in this scene is probably the first person I've seen do it.
All of what you just said added with the small details of facial ticks and stuff puts SO much emotion in the characters.
Alright now we're getting into the next chapter! lets go
Hell yah it’s my birthday, just took some edibles and I find out diegesis is posting; perfect timing
The thing with the eye is a lancet for relieving pressure buildup not a hypodermic. The device didn't have any shimmer in it, just a needle designed to puncture. My guess is the condition of his eye now is a partially successful result of an early attempt by Singed to heal using shimmer.
Well you can see the shimmer leak out of his eye, so I guess he needs to release any excess shimmer build up.
7:03 wow, that was really prophetic
Really happy to see you all vibing with this one, it's one of my favorite things I've watched in general in years and years.
Heimerdinger's little pet is called a Poro, they're super cute and there are a bunch of funny variations of them in the League of Legends lore ^^
plushies too in case anyone is interested
Anakin Skywalker was a grown man who chose his family and the dark side of the Force over the greater good and his loyalties to the Jedi and the Republic. Willfully committing heinous acts to gain the power needed to control life and death. Powder was a child driven mad by all the death and abuse surrounding her. Becoming Jinx. Big difference.
Studio Fortiche is so good. They made me give a shit about LoL just with the strength of their art direction on this show.
In the previous episode you find out that Marcus sold out his own people to SIlco because he hated that she was working with the "Trenchers" and that resulted in Grayson's death. So basically he probably did care that his own people got killed but he linked himself to t he bad guys. Him stealing Vi away and hiding her in prison for like a decade was the best, worst thing he could have done.
The device Jinx used on Silko was an air-pressurized hollow needle that's used to relieve pressure buildup in Silco's damaged eye, it doesn't actually inject shimmer, which most people seem to mistakingly think. The little bit of purple ooze is coming out of his eye as the pressure is relived.
Just to be clear, it was Cait’s parents who got her removed from her detail on the Enforcers, not Jace. Jace was telling her that after they did that, the best position he could get her was as a part of his personal security detail, which given that he’s a counselor is likely an important position, even if it’s mostly behind a desk. Jace is genuinely just trying to be helpful to her. She is his oldest friend after all, and the only person who truly sympathized with him when he was expelled from the Academy, while he was shunned by most others.
That beginning with Pocketful of Sunshine is such a MOOD. You guys are hilarious! 😂
This is one of the greatest pieces of animation i've ever watched. It's not really what you guys do but I highly recommend going through the 5 part behind the scenes episodes of the production of the series once you're done. You guys are very perceptive and pick up on stuff immediately and BTS kinda wraps it all up.
The animation style is called Cell Shading (which originates from comics)
I would describe the art style as "stylized", it's quite popular these days in games. It's kind of a blend of realistic lighting, & physics but with "soft" hand-painted textures.
It's definitely the current trend in video games and my own favorite too, it works extremely well in an animated show, that's for sure. I think going for this look is much easier on the eyes too and it won't give any weird uncanny valley effects you get from going for too much realism. It kind of gives you the vibe of 2D cartoons while actually being 3d models.
It's harder than you'd think though, it's much easier making a realistic metal texture than it is to make a stylized one. Because it has to look like it has the properties of metal (shiny, uneven etc) but still look painted. I'm slowly adapting to that type of art, but it can be really tricky to know how to balance it.
The artists behind Arcane are the best of the best! Everyone in the game industry were talking about how impressive the art is for a long time, even to this day people reference it and use it as inspiration for their own work.
Sorry for the nerd essay but it's not often I get to discuss textures lol
> It's harder than you'd think though, it's much easier making a realistic metal texture than it is to make a stylized one.
Ain't nobody doing original realistic metal textures in 2024, time is money and often people making games/animations don't have any time. You are also overhyping Arcane's animation, it's amazing for sure but it's nothing groundbreaking. Just look at any Studio Ghibli movie or Spiderverse movies. You are practically insulting amazing stuff other animators are creating right now or have created prior. You can't possibly think Arcane holds a candle to any Studio Ghibli movie. I guess you could say Arcane is groundbreaking being made by fully Western team.
@@minartson No offense but you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about...
Every studio has plenty of texture artists, I am one myself.
I'm just saying that making realistic materials is much easier than doing stylized but you wouldn't think so considering one seems simpler.
Also majority of game studios goes for realistic materials, stylized is still the minority but it is becoming more popular recently especially among FPS games.
No clue where you got the "no one has time" from. Any proper studio does everything by hand, all textures, models etc.
I think you completely misunderstood my comment....
Also Into the spiderverse does not have better textures than Arcane, not even close. It has impressive animation and editing though.
Comparing it to anime is also nonsense considering Arcane is 3D models painted to give a 2d feeling. Anime isn't textured, it's drawn..
Not sure where you think your expertise comes from but you don't understand the difference between animation and textures so seems pointless even discussing this with you.
@@minartson Fortische artists were doing this style (2d hand painted SFX, hand painting/stylizing on top of 3d and a non-standard way of lighting) quite some time before the Spiderverse movies were even a thing and like @Quzga pointed out in regards of you mentioning Studio Ghibli, comparing fully hand drawn Anime to Arcane just doesn't make sense.
It's totally OK if you're personally not that impressed, but Fortische got a lot of praise from other studios for Arcane and the show probably didn't win 9 Annie awards just for doing what has been done for years...
@@minartsonyou got cooked
do you have any examples of games that uses a painted-3d look? One game that comes to mind is the Dishonored series
Damn Arianna got some great instincts (well on most things)
She always does, it's kind of crazy at this point. Definitely someone that has watched A LOT of media and picks up on patterns well.
I love how much more into it they are now! Episode 3 really pulls people in 😂
I love Jinx soo much, she is busy rocking out to her own theme song. Caitlin is my second favorite
I'm not going to spoil it until you finish the series but holy hell you made a prediction in this episode faster than any reactor I've seen. I literally play league, and know these champions, and you thought of it before I did. OMG lol.
Ari, you are the first person ive seen say that the main firelight was little man/ekko
I'll give 'em this; this show hits all the feels. After the loss in 3, I'm all in for feeling good on Progress Day, and they just made it up. Happy Progress Day!! 🍻
The art studio has a really cool series on the making of arcane. Basically they made 2 whole anime's. One with an old school painting style, and the other with the new normal style, digitally. Then they overlap them and it makes a perfect mix of old school and new art. It's brilliant stuff, and It cost A LOT of money.
The style/ look you are looking for is Concept Art in motion! Great reaction! Ready for the next one!!
The animation is incredible....I especially love the facial animation
Jinx rock song she was listening to was her theme in the game
Since you are so interested on how they created this masterpiece, there is actually the making of Arcane video series on youtube, that you should deffinetly react to it called "Bridging the rift". The quality of video is amazing and you are gonna be blown away by the effort and energy they put in it. It will also answer the question to why they needed 6 years to make it. PLS just react to it after watching Arcane, and if you dont want to put it on the channel, then just watch it on your own.
You guys should definitely react to the bridging the rift multipart documentary on the making of arcane it’s great to watch if you love the whole artistry of the show.
It's interesting how despite all Heimerdinger's hand-wringing about magic, it still fell into the wrong hands without it ever going public or even being announced. So ultimately his stonewalling Jayce and Viktor didn't help at all, all it did was sandbag their research. Heimer's species is nearly immortal, he won't die of old age, and ontop of that he is both wealthy and one of the most politically influential people in the city, in short the status quo of the city works perfectly fine for him and he loses nothing if Hextech stays in development hell for the next fifty years. All the while people like Viktor, Vi or Powder are living and dying in the polluted slums of the city he founded. It just shows how even someone so seemingly kind and benevolent as him can be so completely, almost willfully blinded by his own privileged to the absolute horrors mere mortal human-beings are suffering right next door. It's an incredible subversion of the common Wise Old Mentor trope as usually the kindly grandfather figure like Heimer in a fantasy story would warn against magic and the story would just say they are 100% right and shouldn't be questioned, but Arcane shows that his wisdom isn't flawless and his actions are as motivated from a flawed perspective as anyone elses.
He was totally right about hextech though. Jinx stealing the gem stone does not change that. And he will keep getting proven right the further the show goes.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 His course of action is only bringing about exactly what he feared would happen. Had he worked with Jayce from the start, he would have been in a position to directly guide and shepherd this burgeoning technology. Instead all he did was stand by and passively try to block its development, which he failed to do at every stage. He failed to prevent their original experiment, he failed to prevent the Hexgates from being built (which themselves are actually only ever shown to be a netpositive for the city, its only Topsides monopoly on their use that is bad for UC), and he failed to prevent them falling into the wrong hands.
Once a technology is invented, it cannot be uninvented. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle. If it wasn't Jayce and Viktor that created the tech, it would just have been someone else that Heimer would have had absolutely no involvement with. His own prejudices against magic blinded him to the fact he had practically the best case scenario possible fall right into his lap as his own proteges were the ones to bring this tech to light.. and he squandered it because he is so disconnected from the problems of the people around him that he can't see why solutions are even needed.
It's also worth noting that while Hextech is Jayce and Viktor's baby.. it's not actually their goal itself. Jayce and Viktor only care about harnessing magic to begin with because they believe it is the best way to improve the lives of those in need. Had Heimer actually offered a meaningful alternative to help salve the suffering in his city, any meaningful alternative whatsoever, they likely would have pursued that instead. But Heimer doesn't have anything to offer but vague warnings and roadblocks, because his nigh immortality lets him just coast through life with the belief things will just kind of solve themselves even if it takes 100 years all the while being blissfully unaware of the suffering around him.
@@troikas3353 Wait, you cannot be serious. Wdym HE failed? Do you think he has like 10 clones and he can do everything at once? Like, is he the only one there who is supposed to take care of everything? What a load of nonsense. He wanted to destroy the hexcore, but was stopped, which led to Skye dying. It also led to Jayce creating the hextech hammer which also led to death. And finally, it led to Jinx creating a fking hextech rocket launcher and firing it at the council. Yeah, for sure it was his fault. You act like he is omniscient or something.
"I wanna see Powder"
SHE JINX NOW
I don't understand why Jayce gets hate for for asking Caitlyn to join his security team. He didn't try to do it out of malice, and was genuinely trying to help her.
Jayce got the original idea, the crystal and remembered both the runes and the spell which is insane considering how young he was at the time. Viktor however solved a mathematical issue about wave functions that had Jayce stuck for a while in literally one evening. So Viktor's contribution is hardly negligible, he's likely the most mathematically inclined of the two. It's always hard to judge when we don't have all the story but Viktor seems in every way Jayce's equal in this endeavour.
I just realized on this watchthrough that poor dude got shot by Jinx and then got his ass beat by Vi in prison. 💀
I as a common man don't like the idea of the ruling class type council specifically depriving working class people of things that can help improve lives because our common hands are too dangerous.
Seize the means, brother.
It's not the common people that are dangerous, it's the cruel, the selfish, and the ruthless. Those who don't care who they step on to ensure they're the next to reach the top. After all, it isn't really progress if you depose one group of oppressors only to let another take their place. Most people aren't like that. The ones who are ruin it for the rest of us.
To note, Marcus put Vi in jail to PROTECT her is what I've always thought. If Silco found Vi AT ALL, he would have killed her =/ lol
I've always felt like Arcane's art is like a 3D oil painting. Done with an eye for perspective so everything would appear 3D, but done in a style that resembles the richness and texture of oil paintings.
Personally, I think while certain "old masters" of art from the past might be fascinated by how we make movies...most of them would be far more interested in animation. And this would be the one that gets the most of their attention.
The minute she was revealed in this episode I was like "OH so she's Harley Quinn." Looked it up and the inspiration for the Jinx character apparently was Joker (explains the Harley stuff), Gollum (explains the shifting personalities) and Helena Bonham Carter (no fuckin idea what that explains).
13:22 speaking of chefs, you guys should watch the bear!
YAY! You made it through Act 1 and you kept going! See? It's not ALL as dark as Episode 3. :)
The fluffy little white creature with the horns is called a Poro. They are very cute
Maple is going to have a big ass collection of Poro plushes before this series is over.
I don't know why I thought it was so funny that she said Marco "Chlorophylled Vi". Like oh yeah he hit her with a substance that produces food and makes her green and concentrated within organisms in structures called chloroplasts.
Man... idk.. maybe I'm just different.. but I kind of figured out Powder/Jinx relationship and Silco right away? Like.. Powder has extreme PTSD, split personality, depression and a lot of other things. Part of her brain is still trapped when her greatest trauma occurred, when she was like what, 9 or 10? Part of her is still that little girl even though she aged quite a few years. So while it's weird to see a girl her age sitting on Silco's lap, it wouldn't be as weird to see a younger her doing so.. which is partially where she is at mentally.
You probably won't read that but girls enforcers have skirt because it's more of a ceremonial outfit, they are in full gear when it's comes to real action or undercity business
Why would Marcus not arrest Vi? My main problem with watching reactions to this series is that people pick favorite characters and then stop thinking logically about the actions taken. Then entire point of the enforcers being in the undercity in those firstn3 episodes is because they had to make an arrest for the person that broke into Jayce's place, that order came from the council. At the end of the day someone has to go to jail for it. It is literally the only good decision that Vi makes all season. It is something Vander understood. Even Powder got it because she had no plans to see Vi come back in episode 3. Just because Silco threw a bag of gold coins at Marcus does not mean that an arrest doesn't need to happen. I don't get how so many people can figure out that Vi has s turning herself in at the end of the second episode only to completely forget all about that plot point an episode later.
"Take your half ass bouquet with you" 🤣
Great reactions, love both of you breaking down thoughts about it at the end.
As my avatar might indicate I adore this show.
Enjoy.
When the season starts to really ramp up! Love the discovery of everyone growing up. Awesome reactions you two! Lots of ah ha's and oh shit's coming up, lol. Can't wait :)
Just want to say, no duo reacting right now is as top tier as you guys.
the cheering for Jayce standing up for his ideals, in a scene where he is not standing for his ideals and has dissapointed viktor in doing so. Neither Heimerdinger nor Mel where aligned with jayce's ideals. One desired extended caution and delays, whilst the other desired a political playpiece to hold.
The animation is a mix of 3D and 2D and it’s amazing
Jinx is basically a mix between Harley Quinn and Tank Girl, best of both worlds, and equally as mad.
Loving the goofiness in the intro.
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Arcane League of Legends!!!!😊😊😊😊
I am fully here for evil Jinx, she and Silco are the best duo in the show.
Next one is the one I'm really curious for.
Yeah, I guess chugging a Monster before doing your reaction would get u hyped.😄 Ok, just to let u know, the time jump was approximately 7yrs. So, our main cast of characters r about these ages: Vi age 22, Jinx age 18, Ekko age 19, Caitlyn age 23, Jayce age 31, Counselor Mel Medarda age 33, Victor age 35, Silco age 51, Sevika (Silco's right hand woman) age mid-40s & Heimerdinger age 314. I know Marcus basically saved Vi by putting her in prison, but he also did it to be elevated. Poor Vi to be locked away in prison for about 7yrs. Heimerdinger's pet is adorable. I 1st fell in love w/this series because of the stylized artwork & 2ndly for the great story telling. In my opinion, this series is a masterpiece. I only hope Season 2 will be done just as well. I'm still very much enjoying your reactions to this series.😊👍
The consensus is that there is about a 7-year time jump between episode 3 and this episode.
Badass Vi is here
Arianna: "[Marcus] *chlorophyll'd* Vi..."
Me, imagining Vi turning into a giant, punching plant...
There isn't an exact term for the art style used by _Arcane,_ but it's what's generally referred to as "painterly," as they were attempting to capture the look and feel of 2D digital concept art for video games, with a sketchy, rough vibe where you can still clearly see brush strokes and other such "imperfections." Riot Games in particular drew a lot of inspiration from early 2000s Blizzard Entertainment game art, as _League of Legends_ grew out of the _Warcraft III_ modding scene.
The show itself uses a branch of 3D animation techniques called NPR (non-photorealistic) rendering, which attempts to use CGI to create visuals that look like 2D art, such as paintings, comic books, or anime, rather than trying to achieve photorealism. For most of the last 25 years "cel shading" was the major accomplishment, but over the last several years, really starting with _Into the Spider-verse,_ there has been a lot of effort to advance the medium.
_Arcane_ achieves this particular look by using a mixture of traditional 3D animation with lots of painted textures and shading rather than relying on light sources within the scenes, and 2D scene elements and sfx. For example, most if not all of the special effects like flames, dust, and explosions are drawn and animated in 2D.
if u notice, the new hextech gemstones are the only thing in the show that's perfectly round and spherical.
I highly recommend that before watching episode 7, that you watch the Imagine Dragons "Enemy" video. It will make the episode hit that much harder as it gives some background. Also, once you finish the series, I suggest you watch the "Worlds 2021 Show Open". Consider it a live action version of Arcane.
According to the shows writers, there was a 4 year time jump between episodes 3 and 4.
that little? interesting
@@Diegesis I thought they said it was 7?
From the start I was a fan of Jinx, but I was a fan of hers from League of Legends too.
Arcane cliffhangers yeah!!
So who else had though "what the fuck, Arianna" when she made that insight check?
You don't need to worry about the songs. Apart from the opening song, everything else is copy-free
"She will be his demise"
Interesting phrasing. Very interesting...
😉its just well educated guess
To clarify he put her in prison because otherwise she’d be hunted and killed
Marcus saved her in that moment predominantly to assuage his own guilt, but then chucked her in there just to wash his hands of her. It's unlikely he ever even gave her much thought after that, let alone would have likely cared much if she died there. In short he did it for himself, not because of what might happen to her.
@troikas3353 no he was down there because he needed someone to take the fall for the explosion jinx caused. It was gonna be Vander but he was taken by silco. He couldnt go back up top empty handed. Especially after losing all those men. They talked about it a lot, guys
@@zethwhippy3929 The show tells us in dialogue that Vi was put in prison with no record of her name and no description of her crimes, no hint at all as to who she is or why shes there. He tossed her in there completely anonymously just to get rid of her in a manner that would hide what he did from both Silco and his superiors. He did not actually turn her in for the explosion, he just washed his hands of her entirely.
You realize we need an Easy A reaction now. I don't make the rules, it's just the way it is. We need to see Maple and/or Arianna singing along with Emma Stone STAT.
Also I think the artwork is a form of cell shading
it amazes me to no end how many people just outright don't trust Mel, she's just doing your standard business person stuff and somehow that's shady and mistrustful.
Whilst I agree, I think "usual business person" is also pretty shady. It's inherent in the trade.
That is why
The animation outside s a combination of 3D computer modeling (like your DreamWorks and Pixar animated films) with digitally painted 2D backgrounds (like the older animated films) and light/texture is painted on the models instead of a program rendered like most 3D animations.
i just want more reactions, cant deal with the once a week
You guys definitely weren't alone getting... weird vibes from Silco and Jinx's relationship. It was intentionally made to be uncomfortable, some have gone as far as to say 'emotional incest'. But at the very least, a very toxic co-dependent relationship that Silco has fostered with her because of his own issues.
Jayce gets a bad rap...
He's a brilliant scientist, and while Viktor did have to turn his thinking around on how to stabilize the crystals, and is in some ways a better technician, Jayce is exceptionally good at what he does. And, in a lot of ways, he's quite good at a much wider range of things than a lot of others in the show.
He's not "better" at anything than some. But he's plenty good enough at a lot. But he's not perfect, and he makes mistakes. And some people kinda shit on him unnecessarily for it.
I may have missed it, but they know that this show and some/most of these characters are from the video game League of Legends right?
This show is RIOT Games way of building out the lore of the world their characters come from. And i believe the reason they are doing that is so they can make a MMORPG game in the future and have the backstory/world/and lore to build on.
Mel totally flattered Heimerdinger into giving more political power to Jayce who's politically naive and trusts her.
That's called 2,5D animation, really rare.
2,5D usually means 2D characters over 3D backgrounds or vise versa, this is heavily stylized textures on 3D with some 2D SFX, not genuine 2,5D.
Blue Eye Samurai next!
Yeah, it's about an eight-year time skip, officially. It's even a time skip done really well, in my opinion, since it opens a lot of possibilities and really advances the story.
According to a tweet a while ago, its about 6-7 time skip at most. Powder was about 11 or 12 at the start of the show and vi was about 15 or so. Not to be all pedantic or anything but ye
Powder's gone. There's only Jinx.
And Jinx has a severe case of schizophrenia.
The end of episode 3 completely wrecked her brain. Powder already had a pile of neuroses relating to abandonment and codependency. They were all pushed to the breaking point with Vander's capture and Vi leaving her behind to go save him. Then "that" event happened, and it sent her absolutely sailing past the edge of sanity.
She's only able to function at all because her delusions and hallucinations aren't directly contradictory with reality. But they're pretty extreme nonetheless. Jinx fundamentally has no capacity to differentiate fantasy from reality. And she still has all the neuroses from before...but more severe (and probably some extras, now).
And to top it off...nobody in that world has any knowledge or understanding at all of what neurology or psychology are, and there's no such thing as therapists or counselors. That world has no way at all to treat or even diagnose mental illness or its causes.
Caitlyn and Vi are two amazing characters. Its baffling how they managed to put them together and... it doesnt work. Thats an achievement.
Vinland saga next please
I read your guys' channel name as Dietjesus and there's nothing you can do about it
This has got to be one of the best cliffhangers
Right....
I’m sure you already editing most of the episodes this season but just fyi riot games doesn’t have issues with people playing their music in reactions and all the music in this show is made by riot games. You shouldn’t have copy strike issues at all
the last two episodes have been extreme nightmares. we havent done watermarks in like 2 years and now we have to for this show. this has been the most difficult show for copyright that we've ever done.