Toyota R150F Manual Transmission Rebuild (Part 2)

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  • Опубліковано 23 лис 2024

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  • @kdmtmb7657
    @kdmtmb7657 Рік тому +6

    This is on my to-do list. Done timing belt, rear axle seals, valve covers, tundra brake upgrade, under hood lights, supercharger, spiker lifts, LBJ, upper control arms, door stoppers … all following your videos, awesome work guys, greatly appreciated thanks

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому

      With the right tools, you could pull it off no problem using this video as a tutorial. Nick did an excellent job explaining everything.

  • @JackCrack-p3s
    @JackCrack-p3s 8 місяців тому +1

    Jimeny Timmy! That was fantastic. Defn one of top 10 vids I've ever watched.
    Tried to do my own yr + 1/2 ago. Test drive finally in Jan, but 2nd is a bear.
    So now have courage to drop and try again.
    Even if I fail, I'm still going to buy you "a beer". Actually two. I want you to go back up to Modesto and share with Nick.
    Hope I don't have to call them and just buy another trans.
    Thanks my fren.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  8 місяців тому +1

      I'm happy to know you appreciated this video series. Nick did an excellent job documenting all the steps necessary to rebuild an R150F transmission. Good luck with the second rebuild, and thanks for the beer donation.

  • @cbdreamer1709
    @cbdreamer1709 Рік тому +4

    Incredible! So much more than a regular Honda!

  • @tracynorton6410
    @tracynorton6410 Рік тому +3

    one of your best videos Tim....mine a R150F and this was enlightening

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +2

      Sean and I lucked out developing a good relationship with Yota1 Performance. It's by far our favorite partnership with a company. Nick was the star of the project, and most of the credit should go to him. The filming and editing was a ton of work too, so I guess we deserve some credit. Thanks for the compliment. We appreciate it!

  • @stco2426
    @stco2426 Рік тому +3

    Awesome. This two-part set has been fab. Really great to see the teardown and rebuild process and thanks to Nick for doing all the hard work, while you two just got in his way and asked the questions. Seriously though it does show great integrity for all at YOTA1 to allow you to film while they display their great skill and knowledge. The R150F shows a seemingly striking resemblance to my G52, but just like your recent rear axle bearing work, the skill is in knowing the similarities and subtle differences and the tricks to success. It’s clear there are many ways to get all this wrong, and trained and experienced eyes are very valuable to get a properly serviced result. Must check those serial numbers on mine!

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому

      I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the series. We appreciate your comment.

    • @thediddlefiddler5569
      @thediddlefiddler5569 7 місяців тому

      This is the kinda stuff that you can show the world because you know 99.9% of viewers will still send their transmission in to be rebuilt by professionals. Its funny. A lot of specialty shops guard their knowledge. But they completely fail to realize this is God-Tier Marketing. No one that watches this video would dare to question the integrity or capability of Yota1

  • @Mike_Allegro
    @Mike_Allegro Рік тому +2

    Amazing video. I rebuilt my 1st W56 last year. I have plans next year for a project that I will need an R150 and will be using this video as a reference. Thanks again for the great tech info!

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому

      Thanks Mike. I'm happy to know you appreciate the tech shared in this video series. Happy Wrenching!

  • @KaleabHabtemariam-sc1zl
    @KaleabHabtemariam-sc1zl 3 дні тому

    Thanks bro I love your work ❤ from Eritrea 🇪🇷

  • @definitelynotpewdiepie
    @definitelynotpewdiepie 8 місяців тому +1

    If your pilot bearing seizes and wears a groove in the tip of your input shaft, like the shaft at 2:37 it is possible to save the shaft without replacing it. You'll have to turn the tip of the shaft down to a smaller diameter, and then machine a bushing with an ID that is a tight press fit onto the machined tip. The outer diameter of the bushing must be a slip fit into the pilot bearing (same as the original unworn tip of the input shaft). Press the bushing onto the tip of the shaft, and you're ready to run it. Those input shafts are expensive. I've done it and put another 60K on the truck since then.
    EDIT: Swapped the transmission to find the the bushing had failed. I would now recommend replacing the shaft or retipping it at your own risk.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  8 місяців тому +1

      It sounds like you have tooling the average person doesn't have. You must have a metal lathe. I'm sure Yota1 could perform what you're suggesting because they have the tooling, but normal everyday people aren't going to have a lathe in their garage. I could also see this as not cost productive for a shop to perform because the time they spend on the machining has to be charged to the customer, and hourly rates are high. So, they just sell the customer a new input shaft and call it a day.
      Thanks for the comment, though, and sharing how a worn input shaft can be saved from the scrap pile.

    • @definitelynotpewdiepie
      @definitelynotpewdiepie 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TimmyTheToolman Correct, you'd need a lathe to do this. It's more viable to pay a machine shop than you'd think as the work is pretty straightforward. I think I paid $90 and saved myself from tossing a $300 input shaft. Nick isn't wrong to replace them, but us DIY guys sometimes have to save a little money. Videos like this are a huge help. You're the go-to guy for Toyota repair content.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  8 місяців тому +1

      @@definitelynotpewdiepie Gotcha. Yeah, hiring a machine shop to do it for you makes perfect sense. Thanks for the kind words for our channel. Happy Wrenching!

    • @definitelynotpewdiepie
      @definitelynotpewdiepie 6 місяців тому

      @@TimmyTheToolman Timmy, I have returned to eat some humble pie. I swapped the transmission with the repaired the input shaft this weekend and discovered that the bushing had walked off the tip of the input shaft into the crank. It wore about a .050 deep groove in the pocket for the pilot bearing. It was not catastrophic, but definitely not a proper fix. Some guys in the GM world have had success retipping input shafts, so perhaps it was just bad execution. Maybe the press fit was too loose, or maybe the bushing was too thin.
      Either way, I was wrong on this one. I'll edit my previous comments so I don't give people bad ideas. I used your clutch replacement video series to get the swap done, and the truck drives much better because of it.

  • @BWheels888
    @BWheels888 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the detailed vid, especially on the shift rods. I'm most of the way through an R151F rebuild which has turned into a nightmare. I needed to replace a few parts and as it was the older style box, some are no longer available.
    I had to replace the countershaft, which meant I had to upgrade to the new style fifth. This has led to me replacing most of the gearbox piece by piece as I try and figure out what new bits I need for it to all work together. I thought I had the final pieces (new reverse gear, reverse selector and fork etc) though I've just discovered that the pivot that you talk about at 42:12 is actually shorter on the new style box, so the new reverse setup won't work as the throw is different, so the forks don't line up.
    Hopefully someone sees this that needs to, as if I was to do this again I would just buy another box and save myself a lot of money.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for dropping a comment and sharing your experience, sometimes you don’t know until you tear into the thing. Anyways, we are glad our video has helped you along the way and you used Yota1 to source some of the parts you needed 🤙🏼
      - Sean

  • @doglegjake6788
    @doglegjake6788 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @motobum916
    @motobum916 11 місяців тому +1

    Again, thank you for putting out another awesome video! Very informative, well-done guys!

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  11 місяців тому

      We were stoked to get this opportunity and appreciate your comment! Sicmods!!!
      - Sean

  • @billylun9634
    @billylun9634 5 місяців тому

    Very informative really helped me during my day to day task mostly involved in gear box rebuild. ❤🙏

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  5 місяців тому

      I'm glad our video series helped you out.

  • @adamgendron6320
    @adamgendron6320 Рік тому

    These two vids are so helpful! Thanks guys!

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      Hey Adam, that's great you found the videos helpful. You're very welcome.

  • @Bgkim1113
    @Bgkim1113 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you guys

  • @manny1782
    @manny1782 4 місяці тому

    Great video. Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @RotoRCol
    @RotoRCol Рік тому

    this video is just amazing like your excellent channel, I am third gen lover too, I am from Bogota Colombia and here I have a manual toyota J95 Prado from the same era and same 5vz engine as 4runner, not sure if it has the same transmission, but the prado's have the same problems as third gens like LBJ failures, but the difference is that Prados are all time 4wd, probably US people will start import this old ones to US

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the compliment. It would be my guess you have the same manual transmission. The full-time 4wd is a component of the transfer case. Importing can be pretty costly from what I've heard, so I don't know if people from the US would import them. I know there's lots of interest importing land cruisers from overseas, but again, it's costly. Maybe one day I'll visit Colombia. Thanks for the comment.

    • @RotoRCol
      @RotoRCol Рік тому

      @@TimmyTheToolman sure you're welcome here in my country and my house too

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      @@RotoRCol Thanks!

  • @efil4kizum
    @efil4kizum 10 місяців тому

    i just bot one of these for my '97 Taco sr5 with 341k miles with a chewed up input shaft... box is currently in Lathrop CA and heading 2200 miles east to ChicagoLand ... UPS ground shipping rate was 313$

  • @kdmtmb7657
    @kdmtmb7657 Рік тому +2

    Job done right

  • @thecryingcowboy551
    @thecryingcowboy551 11 місяців тому

    My 00 tundra got stuck in 3rd speed i unassembled the tranny & the 5th gear thrust washer got cracked in 2 pieces idont know if thats the reason plus no one mechanic wanted to laid hands on it was about to trashed it but this video gave me hope & motivation to give it a try & fix it thanks i will update the outcome

  • @schadlarry
    @schadlarry Рік тому +2

    Hopefully Yota1 will still have these for another 10 years or so, along with the 5VZ-FE. I plan to drive my 02 Tacoma 5sp for another 20 years and then they can take the keys from me. Question I did watch a video by Car Care Nut and he said you must use GL-4 gear lube for the manual transmissions. The service manual says GL-4 or 5 and that's what I've been using for the 280K on it now with no issues. Reverse is sometimes hard to get in gear but I just let off the clutch and re-engage and that works. Probably should change it out closer to 30K instead of 50K though.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      I would go by the owners manual. The Car Care Nut Guy is good, but he wasn't involved in the design of the vehicle and figuring out the spec of gear oils to use. I would definitely renew your transmission gear oil every 30k.

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum Рік тому

      @@TimmyTheToolman i musta let mine go a bit TOO long a couple of times 8^(... the most recent product used was the highly touted redline MT-90 stuff (which I think is GL-4?) that really made the stick NOT STIFF on very cold starts near zero degrees and colder during last winter

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum Рік тому

      @schadlarry ... I watched that same video from the Car Nut LOL... I am located close enough to the car nut shop in Chicago to get in for maintenance and repairs beyond my health abilities but the wait time is nearly 2 months! so in emergencies I am totally F'n screwed to the local slopShops

    • @schadlarry
      @schadlarry Рік тому +2

      @@efil4kizum Good mechanics will have more work than they can handle. He seems pretty good and doesn't cut any corners. South Main Auto is another good YTer.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      @@efil4kizum I've used the MT-90 stuff before. It's good.

  • @msskgamer655
    @msskgamer655 6 місяців тому

    Good explain super 💯 video thanks

  • @efil4kizum
    @efil4kizum Рік тому +1

    I've been keeping an ear open for exactly what type of paint is applied to these fresh-looking cases? haven't heard anything about that yet!

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +2

      Ask, and you shall receive! Keep in mind, they head blasted the surface so if you’re going to throw some paint on one of your housings, make sure you clean it really good.
      amzn.to/3MapZ5O

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum Рік тому

      @@TimmyTheToolman thanks, I thought it might be something like POR-15 paint! that will not chip that easily they say

  • @jmy6050
    @jmy6050 6 місяців тому

    Great instructional video. I don't know why the third gear hub doesn't have splines all the way around. The gearbox I'm working on failed at this point, totally stripping these splines out on the shaft... hence the gearbox had no 3rd or 4th gear. You can buy an upgraded hub with the splines all the way around.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  6 місяців тому

      That's good to know you can buy an upgraded hub. Who makes it?

    • @jmy6050
      @jmy6050 6 місяців тому

      ​@@TimmyTheToolmanfrom what I have researched it is a genuine part. Fits a few model Toyotas and is an upgrade that can be done.

  • @rushthezeppelin
    @rushthezeppelin Рік тому

    After watching this I feel like I could rebuild my r150f. That said I'm also okay with paying 1700 for this level of quality rebuild. Hopefully mine will last a long time yet as long if I can quit my bad habit of being lazy with the clutch shifting to third and grinding it....

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, with this video series anyone could rebuild their R150F transmission provided they have the right tools. Grinding gear ain't good. Stop that!

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin Рік тому +2

      @@TimmyTheToolman Yeah I don't know why my muscle memory just decides to left off the clutch a tad early every once in a while (It's not often but I know I'll eventually have an extra neutral there one day if I can't break that).

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum 9 місяців тому

      how many miles do you have on your R150F? ... mine started grinding that 3rd gear up high (and i could definitely FEEL it) near the end recently after 330k miles on original clutch still. I would have to gingerly put it into 3rd from 2nd gear hesitating a bit before and it usually did not grind it. so it was either the wearing clutch that did this, the pilot bearing freezing on the input shaft (found the tip chewed up and pilot bearing fell apart) or the input shaft bearing that was found wobbly. the other odd grinding noises (mostly 2nd gear whilst slowing down shift from 3rd to 2nd) i could only Hear and Not Feel... 2-2-24

  • @efil4kizum
    @efil4kizum Рік тому +1

    1:49 ... most common failure is the input shaft... how exactly would that fail?, what are symptoms and how to diagnose that? I am having some driving issues with my Taco that may or may not be related to this and am just drilling down onit. Truck has 337k miles on the original factory clutch and R150f... started having some obscure weird vibes rattles underneath this past year in the Arkansas heat while on the road at 295k miles. When i got back home took it into a local tranny shop and paid good coin (90$) to find them tell me that absolutely NOTHING is wrong they could find. perhaps it was just an exhaust hangar tapping. the vibes at the start only occurred in the RPM range of 2k to 2.25k... later in the summer it started to also have some weird ping ping ping in the RPM range of 2.5k to 3k RPM shift zone... i do not usually take the engine past 3k RPM unless in 5th gear on the open freeway... please help me diagnose this if possible? my head is spinning in circles from all of these weird vibes and not knowing all that much about this LOL... but the video is a major plus in knowing and seeing all of the hidden parts and what they look like, etc.

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +2

      We're not going to be able to effectively diagnose a noise/vibration issue effectively over the internet. There's too many possible causes. It could be wheel bearing. It could be a u-joint in the driveshaft. It could bad engine or transmission mount. It could be a problem with the differential. It could be an issue with the transmission or transfer case. And, othe causes, like something simple like wheel balancing.

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum Рік тому +1

      @@TimmyTheToolman I completely understand, it could be anything! I have had 3 wheel bearings get roached up front on driver side already in the past 2.5 years. both CV axles recently ripped to shreads throwing grease all over... all the other parts mentioned are aged and original factory parts! with many miles... for all I know it could be the exhaust crossover pipe making some of the hot-weather rattling or even the cat.
      I am at the point now of just throwing new parts at everything! because I do not fully understand how it all works until I found your UA-cam channel used to self-educate myself, which helps out very much! ... perhaps there is somebody else out there in Yota world reading the comments that has encountered similar issues by now on their old rig and knows what the proper fix is... the first odd rattle I had 3 years ago that was not able to be diagnosed proper by local Yota Pros had to be driven until it finally broke on me one day and I still had no clue what it was but the noise stopped and a new & very pricey part was replaced LOL

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum Рік тому

      what kind of noises might an aged + worn pilot bearing make?

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      @efil4kizum I've never listened to a worn pilot bearing, but bad bearings in general can make a droaning noise, a grinding noise, or a squealing noise.

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum 11 місяців тому

      @@TimmyTheToolman i do think those are the noisy sounds I have been hearing for most of this past year off and on since it first popped up in northern Arkansas at 294k miles and eventually got worse and worse and worse. 8^(

  • @doglegjake6788
    @doglegjake6788 6 місяців тому +1

    Don't never use your shifter for an armrest

  • @gakisabahan6202
    @gakisabahan6202 11 місяців тому

    Nice👍🤝

  • @MikeCanfield-r9f
    @MikeCanfield-r9f Місяць тому

    I have a 1996 Toyota t100 with the r150f in it when you try to put it in first gear it grinds when you let the clutch out what would cause that

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Місяць тому

      Sounds like a broken gear or a bad bearing the gear rides on. Regardless, the grinding is telling you it's time for a rebuild. Have you tried engaging the clutch in other gears to see what happens?

  • @JAY-gv4eq
    @JAY-gv4eq Рік тому

    can the input shaft and that bearing be replaced WITHOUT cracking the case open?

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +1

      I'm not certain that is a possibility. I'd have to watch the video to analyze if that would work. But, since I'd rather not put the time into it, I think calling Yota1 with that question would be easiest.

    • @definitelynotpewdiepie
      @definitelynotpewdiepie 8 місяців тому +1

      Nope. You've got to remove the countershaft to get the input shaft off. No way around it. The helical gear on the input shaft wont allow it to slide off the main shaft while it is meshed with the gear on the countershaft.

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@definitelynotpewdiepiethank you for your knowledge and input, it is most appreciated! I have some other concerns and ???s to field off those that know the ins and outs of this R150F that I just had a rebuilt installed in a Chicago shop and finally got my Tacoma back home

  • @gasisthepastendoil
    @gasisthepastendoil Рік тому +1

    My Nissan hard body clutch fork is shaking does anybody know if that can introduce air into the system through the slave cylinder push rod shaking cause I have to bleed every 3-4 days just to drive it....
    I replaced the slave and master 6 or 7 times there's not a single leak in the system it's not losing any fluid.....

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  Рік тому +3

      I'm not sure about your question. This is not something I've ever heard of happening.

  • @Dredster747
    @Dredster747 8 місяців тому +1

    How much did this cost?

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  8 місяців тому +1

      The current cost is $1700 plus a refundable $500 core charge. The amount refunded can change though due to what damage is found inside the core transmission you return to Yota1.

    • @efil4kizum
      @efil4kizum 6 місяців тому

      @@TimmyTheToolman also minus return shipping cost on core in the big custom box?

    • @TimmyTheToolman
      @TimmyTheToolman  6 місяців тому +1

      @@efil4kizum Yes, that would be correct.