@@bigfatrat7299 haha no, that's a blatant cash grab.. it should be a big patch, not another game, but they want to sell you on another 60$... have fun waiting another 2 years for a 60 dollar patch. Their rep is beyond repair. They would have to bow down and beg like a japanese company or something and admit all their games suck right now and actually make the big but simple changes the communities of each game have been asking for, it's not hard to figure out if you read feedback instead of acting entitled and ignoring feedback.
Among other terrible decision they could make, how could they come up with that idea is still mystery. Like, what's the problem with releasing a complete separate game?
@@ReigoVassal Well they shut down the old servers so they couldn't really keep selling a game that doesn't work fully anymore. And of course the old servers had to be shut down so there wouldn't be competition for their new, and most importantly, more expensive version.
@@GumshoeClassic I don't see how that could justify Warcraft III: Reforged by replacing the original client. StarCraft Remastered was released as a serperate new product without wiping out the original version, and upcoming Diablo II: Resurrected will also be released as serperate new product as well.
The third party servers where thriving, then they updated the game which destroyed the code that the third party servers were built on, thus making them unplayable, i used to sink hours a day in just those servers in custom maps but now its unplayable
Sadly they basically went downhill for me when SC2 came out... splitting the game into 3 really smacked of corporate starting to "increase profits" drive... and then we had the "always online and utterly simplified D3" came out and I basically just stopped being hyped.
@@Kpop_stole_foids_fromcurrycell nah, it’s Blizzard’s own leadership that caused this shitshow. Their own fault, not Activision’s. Probably had most of their supervisors and the director drunk all the time and slacking off, maybe also a bit too busy trying to hit on/grope the women in the studio
Guys... blame both of the company instead. They're not what they used to so it doesn't matter if you blame Activision or Blizzard, they get their greed and ego got the best of them and ruined their chances of ever being competent game developers ever again. Besides, the good people of blizzard have started their own company now and have left. Sure some may be guilty, but we'll need to see it proven. Until then, just blame the leadership of the two companies cause both of them are being irresponsible and careless about their own people.
The problem with corporations in a system with a lack of Workplace Democracy, is that they make decisions that prioritise short-term gains with little consequence to the corporation heads themself. Usually screwing over those they buy out, taking advantage of the existing fanbase's trust, and squeeze as much cash out of it before moving on to the next.
I actually got into RTS because of what I've heard about warcraft 3 and then started playing warcraft 3 Reforged stopped half way through and started playing StarCraft 2
@@emetsalt2678 I'm guessing that you assume the video was incorrect in that Activision actually provided a fair timeframe for Warcraft 3:Reforged to be released despite the lack of better funding and it not being done yet?
@@mcihay246 while that might be true You know that It was blizzard's incompetent development and leadership the ones with the most responsibility of why the game failed right?
You should've highlighted that before Blizzard issued refunds without questions, there was a massive backlash about the difficulty of refunding the game, with the company seemed to be bent on not giving refunds to people. IIRC, that period lasted several days before they relented to refunding without questions asked.
Yeah, I was so lucky that I just randomly decided to refund WC3 Reforged the summer before its release to buy another game, planning to get it near launch. I never accidentally made such a good choice in my life
Yep and it wasn’t even the bad PR that made them switch. It was when threats of class action lawsuits started to pop up for their obvious lies in advertising that they immediately switched to full no questions asked refunds. Blizzard is completely dead. It’s like revenge of the body snatchers. Blizzard has been taken over by a brain parasite that cares for literally nothing but quick short term profits. Doesn’t care what IP it has to destroy doesn’t care what reputation it has to lose, anything to get those quick profits. This current model of triple A game development where insanely overpaid fat CEO button pushing monkeys do anything to raise the profit margins every quarter has destroyed the industry. It’s parasite capitalism at its worst.
@@naejimba Not just lawsuits. They were also faced with legal action in several countries (Australia being one) due to Blizzard's initial refusal to refund. There were also complaints about false advertising that may have brought about more legal consequences for Blizzard if they had continued refusing to refund.
Didn't even mention the new terms of service on custom game modes to protect blizzard from missing out on the next DOTA. While it's not the worst part, it goes a long way to showing how much they've changed over the past 20 years.
I was literally at Blizzcon 2018 playtesting the game. It was mind blowing how good the demo was and I couldn't stop talking about it with others who played it too. One guy was so addicted he was dragged out of the booth because he'd been in there for hours. When it came out, it wasn't even a fraction of the same game. The graphics, sound, cutscenes and gameplay were all drastically different, and worse. It's as if they just made a proof of concept.
Warcraft is one of their greatest and arguably most important franchises. The way they treated the remaster of WC3, and the "amount of respect" they gave it, truly says a lot of what's become of (Acti)Blizz now.
Reports of lack of funding and alleged corporate pressure to rush development on the Activision side ruined what could've been a great remaster like what we saw with Starcraft. T_T
Stop giving blizzard that scapegoat, if they didn't have a clear path to success with the funding they had then they should not have released the game. They were incompetent and disrespected the fans. There's no excuse for that.
Finally, a video on the tragedy of Reforged. A very fitting video with the current discussion of Blizzard. While I'm not too hopeful about the future, I hope Blizzard can finally take a look at themselves and starts to change for the better.
Please after all the downright horrendous things they have done to not only their fans but their own employees I think it's more likely Blizzard will finally shut down and just become Activision.
This was such a huge disappointment for me, the game that got me into Blizzard and was a huge part of my childhood, just savagely disrespected like this. When the news came out about drunken "cube crawls" it all started to make sense to me, that's what they were doing instead of making sure this was decent.
You forgot one major issue, that was the update of the ToS regarding modding, which basically took away all modders rights for Reforged and original game, discouraging the modding community that had endured all these years. So Reforged was such a bad remake that not only did it suck on its own right, it retroactively went and made the old game and modding scene for the games worse for everyone. There will NEVER be any game genres being made and born from Blizzard game mods anymore.
I'm from the overwatch community but ever since looking at how overwatch has just been disappointing and stuff and now I've been watching all of these videos and seeing how often blizzard have been letting communities of games down by either not updating the game or just ignoring the whole game entirely. Blizzard really has disappointed a lot of people....
I’ve a hunch the same top guys in the sexual-harassment scandal are the same guys behind the wave of shitty business practices, and all are connected to the merging with Activision.
The thing is if you go back far enough, they were THE company for quality; the gold standard that everyone else was compared to. It used to be the top gaming company that would be developers wanted to work for... their dream job. Only surpassed by Nintendo, they were the company that players trusted to do what was best for the games... it makes everything that has happened since then so much sadder. Even worse was what they have done to their employees, not just the sexual harassment but they used to have a profit sharing model that they removed and didn't adjust wages to compensate. In an industry that is notoriously terrible to work in, they are now the worst one to work for. All of the talent is leaving, and the shit show they are offering can't possibly get developers of the same caliber. Things will only get worse with time I'm afraid... there isn't any way to turn it around if nothing else but from the constant scandals and the poor working conditions and compensation.
If you get hyped by Diable 2 Resurrected after all of this, you are just the sort of rubes activision counts on. I will never give blizzard the benefit of the doubt based on screenshots or trailers lol
@@volaska4134 The thing is, even if the beta of a game is good, it still wont mean Blizzard wont eff it up at launch. Imagine if they launch the D2 remake while deleting everyones old D2 char on bnet, just like reforge ruined the old base game of WC3
You forgot one of the biggest things they slipped into the ToS. Any gameplay mode you make in W3 Reforged is property of Blizzard and you cannont sell or use the skills you learned making it to make another game. They didnt want another DOTA2 and instead killed the creative games that were part of W3.
Not like anyone would want anything to to with reforged to begin with anyway. Also, does it mean they also take legal responsability for content? like, say, if someone makes warhammer themed content, would GW be able to sue Blizzard for copyrights because they own the user-created content?
I do not say this lightly; I hope Blizzard is completely destroyed by the shitstorm they have created for themselves. I hope the company is gutted, and the IPs locked away in a vault, never to be touched again. It seems harsh, but it's preferable to new Blizzard quite literally destroying and deleting its own past successes in order to scrape a few more dollars from the bottom of the barrel. A dead Blizzard is at least incapable of doing further damage to itself.
Even if Blizzard tanks, its IPs (particularly Warcraft and Overwatch) are golden geese. If worse comes to worst (and, on God, I pray it does), they'll get bought by somebody. That might just be for the best. It's like taking custody away from a parent who loved its kids but demonstrably can't care for them anymore.
This is not only a failure or a disaster. This is heartbreaking. I just wanted a good remaster of WC3 because of how much I loved game and WoW. Now I will never have such a thing.
It's one thing to mess up a remaster. What made this one unique, the first and only of its kind, is that the original got ruined in the process. It isn't just a zero score; it's negative!
@@spacetruks I could agree on the first and the latter, but bf seems to me just to be a money grab.. If you want to experience a real game, I'd recommend Legacy of Kain. Hell, you don't even have to play it, you could watch a video on it(the story one about 6 hours long) you would be amazed by the story and stand in awe.
This is what happens when corporate assholes push talented devs and artists into stupid deadlines and sacrifice quality for some corporate fiscal year or quarter (Activision is well known for being a bully) and when also when core people like Mike Morhaime who would push back these vultures leave the company and great philosophy they've created will die with them... so many companies made these kind of mistakes and its quite sad this happened to amazing company like Blizzard :(
I remember W3 custom games were the best! Hero wars, sheep tag, mazes, Dota (which gave rise to Mobas as a genre) Tower defense, etc were so amazing! Miss those days.
W3 defined a 5+ year period of my life. It also really solidified my love of video games and Blizzard Entertainment as a developer. What they did to W3: Reforged is not only the worst thing they could have done, but the worst thing any developer has ever done to a game EVER (Konami's handling of Silent Hill is pretty close). Seeing this video appear in my feed made me remember the whole W3:Reforged launch and I can't help but feel anger and sadness. Great video, it just happens to bring up some bad memories. Sorry for venting.
Dont spread missinformation. You can play with singleplayer characters online over Open Bnet. The only thing you cant, is playing Lan with a pirated copy. Stop that unnecessary hate against something not even released.
@@aetikkorpo6233 Yo, cut the guy some slack. The tone of your reply is significantly disproportionate to the original message. There ain't any "unnecessary hate" in it.
Lets look at another remaster that respects the original. Command and Conquer. Comes with: Remastered graphics, and can change to old if you want. N64 content never released on PC. Tons of behind the scenes content and never before seen music. And even released the Source code for Free so modders can do what ever they want. Even EA did a better job. Blizzard is worse than EA.
I feel like with EA's track record, it's more likely that in time people will forget that one good thing of good C&C Remaster and pretend as if they never happened. I will still remember that one good thing, though, even when also acknowledging that they still screw up from time to time.
This is still one of the worst Blizzard fails. I still remember playing Warcraft Orcs and Humans for the first time from a Shareware CD. War3 Reforged could have been one of the GREATEST remakes of all time and Blizzard just fell flat on their face with it. I would love to know how many people took the refund option.
Funny how despite almost every Blizzard title going on sale since Reforged's release, Reforged has seen no attention and no sales. Blizzard has just outright abandoned it.
It's always a joy to see this channel tackle any videogame topic in an informative, short and sweet way (or also in depth without sacrificing pacing, like with the artifact video)
I think blizzard need to focus on their HR if they have a poor workspace how in the world will you expect games to be done well if your workers are uncomfortable
should be a crime. The only way i can play wc3 classic is to use my physical cd's i still have and install that way but DO NOT UPDATE, for updating will brick the game on you. Spent 80$ on a game to only be hamstrunged to buy it again. Someone is taking notes from apple's idea to brick old phones to force people to buy new ones.
"Not enough funding" are you KIDDING me? They bleed hundreds of millions to Kotick and shareholders but they can't put appropriate revenue into actually delivering a product? There's no fixing this, it's rotten to the core, Blizzard needs to liquidate and let their talent flourish elsewhere.
What annoys me about this disaster is not that they screwed up so bad, it’s that they did it while they KILLED the original! This is the only Remake I’ve ever seen that did that! How on earth does a company can screw up one of their single most important games in their HISTORY, and at the same time KILL the very game they we’re trying to remake!?
Destroying the original battle net was a huge mistake on the classic games team. Huge mistake those Guys can’t be trusted with a team again and should be completely fired and replaced.
This game was literally my childhood and I just got a new pc and I hadn’t played this game in years so i got my old codes on the DVD’s that were lost in my storage room (literally had dust on them) and I tried to put in the codes to get the game on my new pc just to find out eventually on google that the game is completely ruined. Remaster a game from 20 years ago you can’t just than trash the original 20 year old game it’s just retarded.
Just to put a perspective on how much Acti-Blizz utterly cocked this up... lets look at one other highly infamous remake that was released years ago that was agreed by most of the community was trash - Silent Hill HD Collection. WC3Reforged's review is lower on both Reviews *and* User review. Whilst both where obvious rush jobs even with the incompetence of Konami not even having a Gold Master to work from beat Blizzard which had *ALL* of the resources AND existing running game to build off.
Activision was like Frostmourne. Blizzard merged with them to become stronger, more funded and to allow for better franchises and development but slowly, surely, activision corrupted and rotted them from the inside. The original warcraft is now dead, and blizzard died with it
@@tommyliu7020 then maybe they should give up gaming. Boycott them until they bring back wc3. All d2R is going to do is make it so you can no longer play the original and screw it over like wc3. How could you support such trash, and i used to be the biggest blizzard fan there was.
only exceptions would be EA games that are worth playing in their current form: Deep rock was an exemple of a game that was worth buying and enjoying before the full launch. valheim would be another (updates are slow as hell, but what is there is already very enjoyable)
Warcraft 3 was my favorite game for almost 15 years, I loved it so much that I always came back to it. Until this soulless company which has the name but has nothing to do with Blizzard anymore...fucked it up.
The OG WC3FT was amazing, and WC3 was my 1st time playing WC. It was an amazing experience that got a lot of my friends into PCs and gaming, it is so sad to hear this is garbage. I wanted to get this game as well and have a great experience an re-imagining of the game. But I guess we may get Diablo on a phone so there is that?
while making record breaking money, they invest less money to their upcoming games than ever. just shows how little they care about their payers....I mean players.
I spotted someone watching Captain Grim here :p and do they make record breaking money? They stopped putting new monetization in SC2, hearthstone is pretty much forgotten by now, Overwatch is on the same road, and wow subs are crashing as people leave for FF14 or other MMOs... I have a hard time imagining they make more money than they used to.
Well, I'm still waiting for the promised D2 patch to fix the ca. 200 listed bugs. They did say 1.10d won't be the final patch, but since then none of the version-numbers patched anything.
I would say the problem about the games creation was - the decision to remaster/remake it was based on financial basis instead of passion. If someone in leader position had 'wanted' to remake the game out of passion they would've had a vision of what it would become and therefore able to make decisions about the game. it's clear that they made SC remasters and said "ok, remaster team - do Warcraft 3 next" without concern of how to do it. that's why they at first said things like "new and improved ingame cutscenes" when they actually didn't have resources or energy or even the will/vision of how to do it. launching in the state they did and consequently remove the old platform is nothing short of a spit in the face of the fanbase and the devs have said they didn't want to do it but since they are a business unit they can't afford to not release a product within the "planned" quarter. and people wonder why gamers are concerned with business changing the gaming industry into a soulless churning machine that has no respect for the customers time or money, it's all just a competition to them to advertise hard enough so you spend time on their product instead of other products since time is limited that's the most valuable resource and since they can monetise active players nowadays retention has become more important to them as a game feature over quality or what story the game is exploring.
Blizzard went downhill ever since Chris Metzen retired, so one could argue Blizzard biggest problem is the lack of leadership & poor management by current people in charge of the Inc
Activision used WC3 Reforged as a learning point which is fine. But for it to be abused and left in the dust when it is the foundation of your player base is a bad idea.
Never knew about Blizzard until I started playing Overwatch which I still play to this day. It really sucks they turned out like this since they’re merged with activision. Now with President being gone and co-leaders being formed (know that co-leaders is lower than president), Activision can seize the opportunity to really take over Blizzard and make them as a studio or something. Unless Bobby steps downs which he should along with other executives who they failed to protect their employees.
1992 The Lost Vikings 1994 Blackthorne 1994 Warcraft: Orcs & Humans 1995 Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness 1997 Diablo 1997 The Lost Vikings 2 1998 StarCraft 2000 Diablo II 2002 Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 2004 World of Warcraft 2010 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 2012 Diablo III 2014 Hearthstone 2015 Heroes of the Storm 2016 Overwatch ... and now 2021 we still wondering ...
Actually, so far, Blizzard are 1/2 for their remasters/remakes in terms of them being successful. The Starcraft remaster was actually pretty well done and well-received generally. Will have to see what happens now with the D2 Remaster. If it’s a hit, then they’d be 2/3
I just started playing Warcraft 3 after so many years again and I was so vibe when I heard about the reforged at first. But watching these sort of ratings and videos and comments makes me so sad. Why Blizzard left the game? It was a nostalgic game for everybody. Well, circumstances circumstances!
Well people are already bashing and hating for right reasons D2R Not only blizzard nuked LAN, but also screwed over servers and Mod Support, plus they made the old graphics look even worse since due to how 3dfx drivers behaved even with CRT screens of the time, they didn't fixed the texture filtering, gamma and dither that 3dfx had, therefore you get a ugly washed out and fullbright color palette that makes the game look worse compared to its release. Therefore fan made stuff made over the last 20 years are dead, even Impressive mods like Median XL and Path of Diablo. And the person behind this at Vicarious, is the same person who is responsible for the War 3 refunded shitshow, who also removed samwize didier's picture from the game to put hers and is now the number 2 president of blizzard, and is responsible for the horrible design changes and even gameplay that made Crash remastered a mediocre remaster. Blizzard is doomed, and at this rate even EA or Bethesda Microsoft would do a better job than them.
Blizzard used to be THE gold standard for PC gaming that all companies attempted to emulate (mostly without success) sad state of affairs but if they get the right people in charge I think they can turn it around. But they need to get a dev team to fix WC3 as an apology.
I have 8 copies of War 3 (4 roc and 4 tft). I used to give away 3 pairs to friends but now I can't due to the fact that they're linked to the account. Since it's bnet 2.0 it connects you via acc and not the keys. Basically, 6 keys became useless (7 if you consider that even just roc will be upgraded to reforged and 8 if you consider reforged also having a classic option). I asked support to unlink them from my acc, send them to other accounts or convert them into literally anything else, but was politely told to fk off with a complement that I am a cool guy for willing to give away the codes but tough tits.
They changed more than graphics. they changed how missions play too. If it was purely a graphics remaster like for Starcraft it would have been perfect. Instead they changed it, when it was the LAST thing players wanted, and boning the wc3 multiplayer even out of reforged was just insulting.
No it wasn’t! It was a complete success! Look at all these videos like yours I get to watch! XD Seriously though, videos talking about how bad Reforged was, is always fun to listen to.
What a shame. I loved custom maps in old WC3. Sold the game discs away in 2008. Never shoulda done that. I should have kept playing. Now the game is essentially in a ruined state.
blizzard should of told gamers the game was gonna be delayed for a year. but they were gonna let everyone trail run beta multiplayer. while they fixed all the bugs and gathered feed back.
I will never understand how Blizzard can complain about lack of funding given that it has created 4 of the most played games in the history of gaming. StartCraft, WarCraft, Diablo, World of Warcraft, evey single game is phenomenon. How do they not have money?
Or even just give back features removed, with a good apology and a discount on all the stuff they made vanish and fix that Damn Eula too. With a hefty apology at minimum. Jobs done.
I'm the kind of person to adapt. Yes I was extremely disappointed at first the non-added new cutscenes or any of the extras but to be perfectly honest with you Im a first and second title vet. I have been a HARDCORE fan of blizzard since it's inception so to see the third title come out in a sort of 3d form was a miracle in my eyes and then waiting even longer as technology was literally on a fast track I never once was disappointed with the title then finally hearing a remake or (reforged) the only thing I was really hoping for was updated graphics everything else was extra so to see the title turn from a sharp 3d image go to a smooth added detail was enough for me anything else could be added to the next title.... So I think it's very ignorant for any of you to call it a disaster you clearly aren't real fans and really have no idea what your talking about
Without an attachment to the original, Reforged isn't really bad. I'd never played it, but my roommate bought it And when l played all I could think was "wait, why is this bad again?"
You asked what Blizzard can do to restore it's reputation, and my answer, it is impossible. First Warcraft series made by gamers, developers those who loves games and can think of gaming experience, who thought pulling out a good game, fun game and seek love of players, only "the game" in their minds. But later, company got bigger and sold, now only thing in their mind is no players nor games, it's all about money; "how much I put and how much I will gain?" you can't do shit with only thinking about money and growth in your mind. Small team of developers and indie companies can think of "we made a game, we paid our debt, and now we have a time and resource to make another game to keep paying our bills" but once you made your way to "business company" from "gaming company", you can only think of "growth". Asking yourself "will this game make our company grow by at least X percent?", if "no", then "cancel". No one thinks about being able to pay bills and keep living; they only think about how much will it make to shareholder's wallet in the shortest amount of time. They are all controlled by money and greed. If I was the owner, I couldn't make an agreement on doing a thing such a like "Diablo Immortal" doesn't matter how much I'm offered, because I'm gamer, and it is my identity, my flag, my race, my nation, my pride. Those greedy bastards can even sell their own wifes and kids for the price they see fit. I'm not talking about devs, I'm talking about shareholders and decision makers.
What do you think Blizzard can do to restore its reputation or do you think it's damaged beyond repair?
ow2.
Fixing the F**KING game would be a good start.
@@bigfatrat7299 haha no, that's a blatant cash grab.. it should be a big patch, not another game, but they want to sell you on another 60$... have fun waiting another 2 years for a 60 dollar patch. Their rep is beyond repair. They would have to bow down and beg like a japanese company or something and admit all their games suck right now and actually make the big but simple changes the communities of each game have been asking for, it's not hard to figure out if you read feedback instead of acting entitled and ignoring feedback.
Diablo 4
@@bigfatrat7299 OW2? lol just a 2 infront of overwatch nothing major changed, only Diablo 4 and maybe even WoW2 can save Blizzard at this point.
The fact that the original was wiped off the client is a tragedy.
:(
Among other terrible decision they could make, how could they come up with that idea is still mystery. Like, what's the problem with releasing a complete separate game?
@@ReigoVassal Well they shut down the old servers so they couldn't really keep selling a game that doesn't work fully anymore. And of course the old servers had to be shut down so there wouldn't be competition for their new, and most importantly, more expensive version.
I've got my old discs of the game still happily. Just no connecting to the internet with the game.
@@GumshoeClassic I don't see how that could justify Warcraft III: Reforged by replacing the original client. StarCraft Remastered was released as a serperate new product without wiping out the original version, and upcoming Diablo II: Resurrected will also be released as serperate new product as well.
Blizzard could have done more for wc3 by doing nothing.
The third party servers where thriving, then they updated the game which destroyed the code that the third party servers were built on, thus making them unplayable, i used to sink hours a day in just those servers in custom maps but now its unplayable
Cause of activison. I hate them so much.
The best they could do is just polish the character models and everyone will be happy.
Could have just left it as a visual update
We should call it Warcraft: III Downgraded
“Blizzard used to be a company where their games would be something you would look forward to” wow that hurts
Sadly they basically went downhill for me when SC2 came out... splitting the game into 3 really smacked of corporate starting to "increase profits" drive... and then we had the "always online and utterly simplified D3" came out and I basically just stopped being hyped.
and in the first 5 seconds I cried.
And yet, everyone will buy Diablo 2 Resurrected.
When are they going to learn?
@@RocKM001 what’s wrong with a company trying to make money? LoL.
It was due to Activison. trash can company tbh.
'Expectations were high that it will bring Blizzard fans back together'
Well it did bring us together... against Blizzard themselves.
Don’t hate blizzard. It was all due to Activison. Trash company.
@@Kpop_stole_foids_fromcurrycell Not really, Blizzard has a lot of freedom in their decisions not everything is Activision's fault.
@@Kpop_stole_foids_fromcurrycell nah, it’s Blizzard’s own leadership that caused this shitshow. Their own fault, not Activision’s. Probably had most of their supervisors and the director drunk all the time and slacking off, maybe also a bit too busy trying to hit on/grope the women in the studio
Guys... blame both of the company instead. They're not what they used to so it doesn't matter if you blame Activision or Blizzard, they get their greed and ego got the best of them and ruined their chances of ever being competent game developers ever again.
Besides, the good people of blizzard have started their own company now and have left. Sure some may be guilty, but we'll need to see it proven. Until then, just blame the leadership of the two companies cause both of them are being irresponsible and careless about their own people.
True.
“ Blizzard was getting the worst press it had ever received”
Me: ?????
Akshon: “so far”
Me: sorry my bad
Even if he didn't say so far it would've still been accurate because he said had received as in had received in the past
@@beu9245 get out of here
I started playing RTS games because of Warcraft 3, it was my childhood so why did you do this to it Activision!
The problem with corporations in a system with a lack of Workplace Democracy, is that they make decisions that prioritise short-term gains with little consequence to the corporation heads themself.
Usually screwing over those they buy out, taking advantage of the existing fanbase's trust, and squeeze as much cash out of it before moving on to the next.
I actually got into RTS because of what I've heard about warcraft 3 and then started playing warcraft 3 Reforged stopped half way through and started playing StarCraft 2
It wasn't Activision
It was blizzard
@@emetsalt2678 I'm guessing that you assume the video was incorrect in that Activision actually provided a fair timeframe for Warcraft 3:Reforged to be released despite the lack of better funding and it not being done yet?
@@mcihay246 while that might be true
You know that It was blizzard's incompetent development and leadership the ones with the most responsibility of why the game failed right?
You should've highlighted that before Blizzard issued refunds without questions, there was a massive backlash about the difficulty of refunding the game, with the company seemed to be bent on not giving refunds to people. IIRC, that period lasted several days before they relented to refunding without questions asked.
Yeah, I was so lucky that I just randomly decided to refund WC3 Reforged the summer before its release to buy another game, planning to get it near launch.
I never accidentally made such a good choice in my life
Weren't they also being threatened with lawsuits? XD
Argh! Do they still give refunds for the game? A friend bought it without realizing what had happened (we was in the army)
Yep and it wasn’t even the bad PR that made them switch. It was when threats of class action lawsuits started to pop up for their obvious lies in advertising that they immediately switched to full no questions asked refunds.
Blizzard is completely dead. It’s like revenge of the body snatchers. Blizzard has been taken over by a brain parasite that cares for literally nothing but quick short term profits. Doesn’t care what IP it has to destroy doesn’t care what reputation it has to lose, anything to get those quick profits.
This current model of triple A game development where insanely overpaid fat CEO button pushing monkeys do anything to raise the profit margins every quarter has destroyed the industry.
It’s parasite capitalism at its worst.
@@naejimba Not just lawsuits. They were also faced with legal action in several countries (Australia being one) due to Blizzard's initial refusal to refund. There were also complaints about false advertising that may have brought about more legal consequences for Blizzard if they had continued refusing to refund.
Didn't even mention the new terms of service on custom game modes to protect blizzard from missing out on the next DOTA.
While it's not the worst part, it goes a long way to showing how much they've changed over the past 20 years.
I was literally at Blizzcon 2018 playtesting the game. It was mind blowing how good the demo was and I couldn't stop talking about it with others who played it too. One guy was so addicted he was dragged out of the booth because he'd been in there for hours.
When it came out, it wasn't even a fraction of the same game. The graphics, sound, cutscenes and gameplay were all drastically different, and worse. It's as if they just made a proof of concept.
Warcraft is one of their greatest and arguably most important franchises. The way they treated the remaster of WC3, and the "amount of respect" they gave it, truly says a lot of what's become of (Acti)Blizz now.
Activison ruined them. Trash company. Would never touch anything from that company.
Reports of lack of funding and alleged corporate pressure to rush development on the Activision side ruined what could've been a great remaster like what we saw with Starcraft. T_T
Stop giving blizzard that scapegoat, if they didn't have a clear path to success with the funding they had then they should not have released the game. They were incompetent and disrespected the fans. There's no excuse for that.
Finally, a video on the tragedy of Reforged. A very fitting video with the current discussion of Blizzard. While I'm not too hopeful about the future, I hope Blizzard can finally take a look at themselves and starts to change for the better.
I will never again support a company who would spit in their fans face like blizzard did.
Please after all the downright horrendous things they have done to not only their fans but their own employees I think it's more likely Blizzard will finally shut down and just become Activision.
I hope blizzard and everything associated disbands, spawning new studios like Uncapped games, Frost Giant etc
There are literally hundreds….. are you Stu…have a nice day
@@jessefisher1809 yeah!! diablo mobile and this
This was such a huge disappointment for me, the game that got me into Blizzard and was a huge part of my childhood, just savagely disrespected like this. When the news came out about drunken "cube crawls" it all started to make sense to me, that's what they were doing instead of making sure this was decent.
You forgot one major issue, that was the update of the ToS regarding modding, which basically took away all modders rights for Reforged and original game, discouraging the modding community that had endured all these years. So Reforged was such a bad remake that not only did it suck on its own right, it retroactively went and made the old game and modding scene for the games worse for everyone.
There will NEVER be any game genres being made and born from Blizzard game mods anymore.
I'm from the overwatch community but ever since looking at how overwatch has just been disappointing and stuff and now I've been watching all of these videos and seeing how often blizzard have been letting communities of games down by either not updating the game or just ignoring the whole game entirely. Blizzard really has disappointed a lot of people....
I’ve a hunch the same top guys in the sexual-harassment scandal are the same guys behind the wave of shitty business practices, and all are connected to the merging with Activision.
The thing is if you go back far enough, they were THE company for quality; the gold standard that everyone else was compared to. It used to be the top gaming company that would be developers wanted to work for... their dream job. Only surpassed by Nintendo, they were the company that players trusted to do what was best for the games... it makes everything that has happened since then so much sadder. Even worse was what they have done to their employees, not just the sexual harassment but they used to have a profit sharing model that they removed and didn't adjust wages to compensate. In an industry that is notoriously terrible to work in, they are now the worst one to work for. All of the talent is leaving, and the shit show they are offering can't possibly get developers of the same caliber. Things will only get worse with time I'm afraid... there isn't any way to turn it around if nothing else but from the constant scandals and the poor working conditions and compensation.
If you get hyped by Diable 2 Resurrected after all of this, you are just the sort of rubes activision counts on. I will never give blizzard the benefit of the doubt based on screenshots or trailers lol
Played the beta - D2R is legit. I still won't be giving Activision Blizzard any more money though.
I don't trust Blizz at all. Not looking forward on how they are going to screw D2 and yes, I still play. I really liked playing on old battle.net :/
@@volaska4134 The thing is, even if the beta of a game is good, it still wont mean Blizzard wont eff it up at launch. Imagine if they launch the D2 remake while deleting everyones old D2 char on bnet, just like reforge ruined the old base game of WC3
yo can we talk about the editing tho?? it's looking CRISP
Thanks!
You forgot one of the biggest things they slipped into the ToS. Any gameplay mode you make in W3 Reforged is property of Blizzard and you cannont sell or use the skills you learned making it to make another game.
They didnt want another DOTA2 and instead killed the creative games that were part of W3.
Not like anyone would want anything to to with reforged to begin with anyway.
Also, does it mean they also take legal responsability for content? like, say, if someone makes warhammer themed content, would GW be able to sue Blizzard for copyrights because they own the user-created content?
@@thorveim1174 That would be a genius way to troll Blizzard.
@@ixian_technocrat ferb, I’ve got an idea
I do not say this lightly; I hope Blizzard is completely destroyed by the shitstorm they have created for themselves. I hope the company is gutted, and the IPs locked away in a vault, never to be touched again. It seems harsh, but it's preferable to new Blizzard quite literally destroying and deleting its own past successes in order to scrape a few more dollars from the bottom of the barrel. A dead Blizzard is at least incapable of doing further damage to itself.
Even if Blizzard tanks, its IPs (particularly Warcraft and Overwatch) are golden geese. If worse comes to worst (and, on God, I pray it does), they'll get bought by somebody. That might just be for the best. It's like taking custody away from a parent who loved its kids but demonstrably can't care for them anymore.
@@youraftermyrobotbee imagine if Dreamhaven buys them.. it would be putting back these IPsin the hands of Blizzard's old guard
@@thorveim1174 That would be incredible, but Dreamhaven is so new I don't know if it has the leverage or capital to do that.
This is not only a failure or a disaster.
This is heartbreaking. I just wanted a good remaster of WC3 because of how much I loved game and WoW. Now I will never have such a thing.
It's one thing to mess up a remaster. What made this one unique, the first and only of its kind, is that the original got ruined in the process. It isn't just a zero score; it's negative!
How you can buy a hard copy of a game for 80$ and not be able to use it should be a crime. Still have my old wc3 but cannot use it. Breaks my heart.
the downfall of blizzard has to be one of the biggest dissapointments in gaming these days, so many great ips ruined..
Every IP is shit right now.
@@Harinjo916 edge much
@@spacetruks change my mind
@@Harinjo916 idk AoE 2 is fun, battlefield is nice, and rocket league is a good time waster
@@spacetruks I could agree on the first and the latter, but bf seems to me just to be a money grab.. If you want to experience a real game, I'd recommend Legacy of Kain. Hell, you don't even have to play it, you could watch a video on it(the story one about 6 hours long) you would be amazed by the story and stand in awe.
This is what happens when corporate assholes push talented devs and artists into stupid deadlines and sacrifice quality for some corporate fiscal year or quarter (Activision is well known for being a bully) and when also when core people like Mike Morhaime who would push back these vultures leave the company and great philosophy they've created will die with them... so many companies made these kind of mistakes and its quite sad this happened to amazing company like Blizzard :(
I remember W3 custom games were the best! Hero wars, sheep tag, mazes, Dota (which gave rise to Mobas as a genre) Tower defense, etc were so amazing! Miss those days.
W3 defined a 5+ year period of my life. It also really solidified my love of video games and Blizzard Entertainment as a developer. What they did to W3: Reforged is not only the worst thing they could have done, but the worst thing any developer has ever done to a game EVER (Konami's handling of Silent Hill is pretty close). Seeing this video appear in my feed made me remember the whole W3:Reforged launch and I can't help but feel anger and sadness.
Great video, it just happens to bring up some bad memories. Sorry for venting.
I cant handle how good this channel is
I can't un-hear the name "Mike Morain" now.
This has to be the most underrated channel ever. Keep up the good work!!!!
I don't think they are that underrated, for sure there are channels which are much more underrated. but yes they do great work!
i love Age of Empires 2 and thought about switching to WC3 but i simply can not see how this would benefit me LUL
AoE 2 DE is soooo much better and polished than this piece of shit, right?
They removed TPC/IP multiplayer from D2 Ressurected. This means you won't be able to play multiplayer with your single-player character.
Dont spread missinformation. You can play with singleplayer characters online over Open Bnet.
The only thing you cant, is playing Lan with a pirated copy. Stop that unnecessary hate against something not even released.
@@aetikkorpo6233 Yo, cut the guy some slack. The tone of your reply is significantly disproportionate to the original message. There ain't any "unnecessary hate" in it.
@@nfrmptbongo9439 ofc there is, he is just a guy jumping on the hatetrain, with no basic knowlege of the original game...
Lets look at another remaster that respects the original.
Command and Conquer.
Comes with:
Remastered graphics, and can change to old if you want.
N64 content never released on PC.
Tons of behind the scenes content and never before seen music.
And even released the Source code for Free so modders can do what ever they want.
Even EA did a better job. Blizzard is worse than EA.
I feel like with EA's track record, it's more likely that in time people will forget that one good thing of good C&C Remaster and pretend as if they never happened. I will still remember that one good thing, though, even when also acknowledging that they still screw up from time to time.
This is still one of the worst Blizzard fails. I still remember playing Warcraft Orcs and Humans for the first time from a Shareware CD. War3 Reforged could have been one of the GREATEST remakes of all time and Blizzard just fell flat on their face with it. I would love to know how many people took the refund option.
Funny how despite almost every Blizzard title going on sale since Reforged's release, Reforged has seen no attention and no sales.
Blizzard has just outright abandoned it.
It's always a joy to see this channel tackle any videogame topic in an informative, short and sweet way (or also in depth without sacrificing pacing, like with the artifact video)
I like that this channel doesn't pull punches just because blizzard has responded positively to some of your guys' overwatch content.
I think blizzard need to focus on their HR if they have a poor workspace how in the world will you expect games to be done well if your workers are uncomfortable
Totally true. My license of Frozen Throne has gone. Now i must buy license of reforged to play old game i want. They re robbed from out pocket. Damn.
should be a crime. The only way i can play wc3 classic is to use my physical cd's i still have and install that way but DO NOT UPDATE, for updating will brick the game on you. Spent 80$ on a game to only be hamstrunged to buy it again. Someone is taking notes from apple's idea to brick old phones to force people to buy new ones.
"Not enough funding" are you KIDDING me? They bleed hundreds of millions to Kotick and shareholders but they can't put appropriate revenue into actually delivering a product? There's no fixing this, it's rotten to the core, Blizzard needs to liquidate and let their talent flourish elsewhere.
Remember when blizzard releases a game it would kill new games that were also coming out for that genre? How much has the tables turned against them
What annoys me about this disaster is not that they screwed up so bad, it’s that they did it while they KILLED the original! This is the only Remake I’ve ever seen that did that!
How on earth does a company can screw up one of their single most important games in their HISTORY, and at the same time KILL the very game they we’re trying to remake!?
Destroying the original battle net was a huge mistake on the classic games team. Huge mistake those Guys can’t be trusted with a team again and should be completely fired and replaced.
This game was literally my childhood and I just got a new pc and I hadn’t played this game in years so i got my old codes on the DVD’s that were lost in my storage room (literally had dust on them) and I tried to put in the codes to get the game on my new pc just to find out eventually on google that the game is completely ruined. Remaster a game from 20 years ago you can’t just than trash the original 20 year old game it’s just retarded.
Just to put a perspective on how much Acti-Blizz utterly cocked this up... lets look at one other highly infamous remake that was released years ago that was agreed by most of the community was trash - Silent Hill HD Collection.
WC3Reforged's review is lower on both Reviews *and* User review. Whilst both where obvious rush jobs even with the incompetence of Konami not even having a Gold Master to work from beat Blizzard which had *ALL* of the resources AND existing running game to build off.
Activision was like Frostmourne. Blizzard merged with them to become stronger, more funded and to allow for better franchises and development but slowly, surely, activision corrupted and rotted them from the inside.
The original warcraft is now dead, and blizzard died with it
I hate that they ruined playing the original game.
Everyone should boycott D2 remastered until they do something about WC3. like restoring the old version.
Sorry, not gonna do that. Gotta reward them for work well done or they will NEVER do another good remaster again.
@@tommyliu7020 then maybe they should give up gaming. Boycott them until they bring back wc3. All d2R is going to do is make it so you can no longer play the original and screw it over like wc3. How could you support such trash, and i used to be the biggest blizzard fan there was.
I had some hope after they released StarCraft: Remastered, except it ended up as a "demake" this time...
Morale of the story : STOP BUYING GAMES BEFORE THE LAUNCH
only exceptions would be EA games that are worth playing in their current form: Deep rock was an exemple of a game that was worth buying and enjoying before the full launch. valheim would be another (updates are slow as hell, but what is there is already very enjoyable)
Warcraft 3 was my favorite game for almost 15 years, I loved it so much that I always came back to it. Until this soulless company which has the name but has nothing to do with Blizzard anymore...fucked it up.
The OG WC3FT was amazing, and WC3 was my 1st time playing WC. It was an amazing experience that got a lot of my friends into PCs and gaming, it is so sad to hear this is garbage. I wanted to get this game as well and have a great experience an re-imagining of the game. But I guess we may get Diablo on a phone so there is that?
When that WC3R tournament ended up being played on the original game...
0:10 Interesting that you included Heroes of the Storm but not Overwatch... even when your channel started with them.
Fun fact from a WC3 player: 1.5 year after launch, still no ladder! Blizzard doesn't give two STs!!!!!!
while making record breaking money, they invest less money to their upcoming games than ever.
just shows how little they care about their payers....I mean players.
I spotted someone watching Captain Grim here :p
and do they make record breaking money? They stopped putting new monetization in SC2, hearthstone is pretty much forgotten by now, Overwatch is on the same road, and wow subs are crashing as people leave for FF14 or other MMOs... I have a hard time imagining they make more money than they used to.
i still have a working pirated copy of the original frozen throne from my dota days lol
Btw what version are you using to player classic warcraft 3
These features are AWESOME!
Well, I'm still waiting for the promised D2 patch to fix the ca. 200 listed bugs. They did say 1.10d won't be the final patch, but since then none of the version-numbers patched anything.
I would say the problem about the games creation was - the decision to remaster/remake it was based on financial basis instead of passion. If someone in leader position had 'wanted' to remake the game out of passion they would've had a vision of what it would become and therefore able to make decisions about the game.
it's clear that they made SC remasters and said "ok, remaster team - do Warcraft 3 next" without concern of how to do it. that's why they at first said things like "new and improved ingame cutscenes" when they actually didn't have resources or energy or even the will/vision of how to do it.
launching in the state they did and consequently remove the old platform is nothing short of a spit in the face of the fanbase and the devs have said they didn't want to do it but since they are a business unit they can't afford to not release a product within the "planned" quarter.
and people wonder why gamers are concerned with business changing the gaming industry into a soulless churning machine that has no respect for the customers time or money, it's all just a competition to them to advertise hard enough so you spend time on their product instead of other products since time is limited that's the most valuable resource and since they can monetise active players nowadays retention has become more important to them as a game feature over quality or what story the game is exploring.
This game could've been great!
Blizzard went downhill ever since Chris Metzen retired, so one could argue Blizzard biggest problem is the lack of leadership & poor management by current people in charge of the Inc
Activision used WC3 Reforged as a learning point which is fine. But for it to be abused and left in the dust when it is the foundation of your player base is a bad idea.
Wat i think it is evan sad is that recently my friend got the game and still suffered bugs... after so long they haven't fix a single thing.
"Look how they massacred my boy" said vito corleone when see this
Never knew about Blizzard until I started playing Overwatch which I still play to this day. It really sucks they turned out like this since they’re merged with activision. Now with President being gone and co-leaders being formed (know that co-leaders is lower than president), Activision can seize the opportunity to really take over Blizzard and make them as a studio or something. Unless Bobby steps downs which he should along with other executives who they failed to protect their employees.
1992 The Lost Vikings
1994 Blackthorne
1994 Warcraft: Orcs & Humans
1995 Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness
1997 Diablo
1997 The Lost Vikings 2
1998 StarCraft
2000 Diablo II
2002 Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos
2004 World of Warcraft
2010 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty
2012 Diablo III
2014 Hearthstone
2015 Heroes of the Storm
2016 Overwatch
... and now 2021 we still wondering ...
To be honest I bought the W3 Reforged to be able to play it in my new Mac. I used to play it when I was a kid
As far as i recall, they even refused to refund for a while.
All of Activision Blizzards remasters/remakes end up bad that isn't COD.
Actually, so far, Blizzard are 1/2 for their remasters/remakes in terms of them being successful. The Starcraft remaster was actually pretty well done and well-received generally. Will have to see what happens now with the D2 Remaster. If it’s a hit, then they’d be 2/3
@@Marksman3434 all I remember is the Prototype collection running like ass.
@@SourRobo8364 ah, Ok, I thought we were talking only about Blizzard’s remakes/remasters.
@@Marksman3434 I said Activision Blizzard. So all their games come under that umbrella.
I just started playing Warcraft 3 after so many years again and I was so vibe when I heard about the reforged at first. But watching these sort of ratings and videos and comments makes me so sad. Why Blizzard left the game? It was a nostalgic game for everybody. Well, circumstances circumstances!
0:15 "many of its titles would be beloved in their respective genres" are we saying nobody loves Overwatch?
Well people are already bashing and hating for right reasons D2R
Not only blizzard nuked LAN, but also screwed over servers and Mod Support, plus they made the old graphics look even worse since due to how 3dfx drivers behaved even with CRT screens of the time, they didn't fixed the texture filtering, gamma and dither that 3dfx had, therefore you get a ugly washed out and fullbright color palette that makes the game look worse compared to its release.
Therefore fan made stuff made over the last 20 years are dead, even Impressive mods like Median XL and Path of Diablo.
And the person behind this at Vicarious, is the same person who is responsible for the War 3 refunded shitshow, who also removed samwize didier's picture from the game to put hers and is now the number 2 president of blizzard, and is responsible for the horrible design changes and even gameplay that made Crash remastered a mediocre remaster.
Blizzard is doomed, and at this rate even EA or Bethesda Microsoft would do a better job than them.
As a s hots player, hearing reforge was a flop wasn't a surprise at all.
I'm currently playing reforged for nostalgic purposes 😅
Im crying. It feels like my childhood is gone
Blizzard used to be THE gold standard for PC gaming that all companies attempted to emulate (mostly without success) sad state of affairs but if they get the right people in charge I think they can turn it around. But they need to get a dev team to fix WC3 as an apology.
I have 8 copies of War 3 (4 roc and 4 tft). I used to give away 3 pairs to friends but now I can't due to the fact that they're linked to the account.
Since it's bnet 2.0 it connects you via acc and not the keys. Basically, 6 keys became useless (7 if you consider that even just roc will be upgraded to reforged and 8 if you consider reforged also having a classic option). I asked support to unlink them from my acc, send them to other accounts or convert them into literally anything else, but was politely told to fk off with a complement that I am a cool guy for willing to give away the codes but tough tits.
I was so pumped for this. What a let down 😥
I played Starcraft back in 1999 during the blizzard glory days. The company been downhill since Diablo 3 released
Thanks, I'm sad now
A big problem is they made features nobody asked and removed features everybody uses.
They changed more than graphics. they changed how missions play too. If it was purely a graphics remaster like for Starcraft it would have been perfect. Instead they changed it, when it was the LAST thing players wanted, and boning the wc3 multiplayer even out of reforged was just insulting.
No it wasn’t! It was a complete success! Look at all these videos like yours I get to watch! XD
Seriously though, videos talking about how bad Reforged was, is always fun to listen to.
What a shame. I loved custom maps in old WC3. Sold the game discs away in 2008. Never shoulda done that. I should have kept playing. Now the game is essentially in a ruined state.
What a colossal fuckup. WC3 was one of my OG favorite games.
blizzard should of told gamers the game was gonna be delayed for a year. but they were gonna let everyone trail run beta multiplayer. while they fixed all the bugs and gathered feed back.
warcraft III reforged received the dungeon siege 3 treatment and command and conquer 4 treatment .
I will never understand how Blizzard can complain about lack of funding given that it has created 4 of the most played games in the history of gaming. StartCraft, WarCraft, Diablo, World of Warcraft, evey single game is phenomenon. How do they not have money?
Or even just give back features removed, with a good apology and a discount on all the stuff they made vanish and fix that Damn Eula too. With a hefty apology at minimum. Jobs done.
The * so far * killed me
'''mike morein"' even i know that not how you say it
i played so much dota and tower defense as a kid...wintermaul and footmen frenzy...good times
Didn't buy reforged, yet I still have to download 20gigs just to play orc gladiators.
I dont give a f about multi player..have the campaign issues been fixed as of 2022?
Just the fact they censored the word Taiwan in Warcraft 3: Refunded should say enough about Blizzard at this point...
I'm the kind of person to adapt. Yes I was extremely disappointed at first the non-added new cutscenes or any of the extras but to be perfectly honest with you Im a first and second title vet. I have been a HARDCORE fan of blizzard since it's inception so to see the third title come out in a sort of 3d form was a miracle in my eyes and then waiting even longer as technology was literally on a fast track I never once was disappointed with the title then finally hearing a remake or (reforged) the only thing I was really hoping for was updated graphics everything else was extra so to see the title turn from a sharp 3d image go to a smooth added detail was enough for me anything else could be added to the next title.... So I think it's very ignorant for any of you to call it a disaster you clearly aren't real fans and really have no idea what your talking about
How many times we have seen unclear Vision play a key role trouble development mass effect andromeda and anthem
Without an attachment to the original, Reforged isn't really bad. I'd never played it, but my roommate bought it And when l played all I could think was "wait, why is this bad again?"
Thank God Mike was still the CEO until after they released Legacy of the Void completing the SC2 storyline.
But imo the ending of SC2 is still horrible and lame, they really made Protoss a joke and a meaningless race or faction to exist in the story.
@@damianscott3710 That is a opinion. As a fellow SC2 fan, I will not disrespect your opinion and hope that mine is not disrespected either.
You asked what Blizzard can do to restore it's reputation, and my answer, it is impossible. First Warcraft series made by gamers, developers those who loves games and can think of gaming experience, who thought pulling out a good game, fun game and seek love of players, only "the game" in their minds. But later, company got bigger and sold, now only thing in their mind is no players nor games, it's all about money; "how much I put and how much I will gain?" you can't do shit with only thinking about money and growth in your mind.
Small team of developers and indie companies can think of "we made a game, we paid our debt, and now we have a time and resource to make another game to keep paying our bills" but once you made your way to "business company" from "gaming company", you can only think of "growth". Asking yourself "will this game make our company grow by at least X percent?", if "no", then "cancel". No one thinks about being able to pay bills and keep living; they only think about how much will it make to shareholder's wallet in the shortest amount of time.
They are all controlled by money and greed.
If I was the owner, I couldn't make an agreement on doing a thing such a like "Diablo Immortal" doesn't matter how much I'm offered, because I'm gamer, and it is my identity, my flag, my race, my nation, my pride. Those greedy bastards can even sell their own wifes and kids for the price they see fit. I'm not talking about devs, I'm talking about shareholders and decision makers.
That d2 remastered seems to be like that also. Stiff animation