Jason, you make ownership of my 1st Jeep that much more fun by your thorough yet simple DIY explanations. I really appreciate all that you do. Keep up the good work and videos, they help a ton. Safe travels
@@AutoEdits finally got to this part of my Jeep upgrade. Ordered the big brake conversion kit you have on here and to my disappointment, the packaging was not the same, very cheap and just thrown together 😢. Regardless of that I’m super stoked to get these onto my JK over the weekend. Thank you soo much for these videos, not only are they informative, but they are entertaining as well, I can’t believe so many years have passed since you started this channel. Thank you.
Hate to hear that the Jeep people dislike mustang videos and mustang viewers don’t like jeep videos. I just enjoy your content whether it is the Jeep, truck, or stang just the quality content.
The three things I’d like to add is 1. Clean the heck out of your new rotors with brake cleaner. The manufacturer puts oil on them to prevent them from rusting during freight. 2. Yes, brake fluid is one of the worst fluids. It’s actually corrosive and will eat the paint off your fender or whatever it gets on. 3. Make sure when bleeding brakes, always start farthest from the master cylinder. So rear passenger, rear driver, front passenger, and front driver in that order. Great video as always Jason! Seems like a really good upgrade, especially being able to lock up your 38” Milestar Patagonia M/Ts!! I have a little bit of a hard time locking up my 35s with four wheel disk brakes on my YJ.
All good suggestions! It's less important now that newer vehicles have independent lines from the stability management pump but a good procedure to follow. I would recommend getting the Z36 pads and rotors for that YJ stat!
On these particular rotors they are good to go out of the box, no brake clean needed. That said... if you get oils/grease from your fingers on the rotors it is a great idea to keep them as clean as possible.
I just recently did a BBK upgrade on my JK. I fished around YT to try and a quick video on brake bleeding (both 1 and 2 man), and they were all so overly-verbose and confused me even more! I should've just known to come straight back to you Jason. You always have a succinct way of making your point! Much appreciated!
Howdy and welcome to the channel! Let me save you a few bucks... I find that the regular kit with pads and rotors performs so good that it isn't always necessary to go the extra expense of the big brake kit. I love having it but for some builds it's just a bit much. www.amazon.com/shop/autoedits/list/3V59WNMGIVSC0?ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d But again, I'm still thrilled having the big brake kit with fresh powder coated red calipers and all the goodies!
Excellent video brother once again showing us garage mechanics (non pros) that you can upgrade stuff right at home. Keep up the videos loving your content, Jeep, truck and Mustang
Great video Jason. I placed my order for a front/rear kit yesterday. Looking forward to getting these bad boys installed. I've read nothing but positive reviews from multiple sites for this kit.
Don't forget to rinse anything with brake fluid on it with water. It will cut the brake fluid. Brake fluid will eat paint and primer all the way to bare metal. Great video. I'm thinking of doing this upgrade.
Great video once again Jason! Your videos are on point, as usual. The background music is just perfect unlike so many other videos! You take your time to explain everything well, which is very useful! Keep up the good work! Say hi to Pinto! 👍
I almost took a deer out after I put 37s on my jeep because it just wouldn’t stop. That night I ordered a crown big brake kit which is ram 1500 dual piston calipers and a 13” rotor. I’m wanting to see if the Powerstop z76 pads for the ram will fit those calipers.
Took me a minute to catch wise that this is a new video for the upgraded powerstop kit. I watched, and enjoyed the last video. When I need brakes, I’m buying this kit. My Jeep has gotten armor, bumpers, and a very heavy winch. I’ll take a bigger brake kit!
Great tip on the keeping brake fluid in the reservoir. Once it's dry, it's a sure trip to the dealer or a shop that has the scan tool to bleed the ABS pump. Don't ask me how I know . . .
So this is the same idea basically as the big rotor kits from Teraflex except far more complete. A nice upgrade! By the way, your wife sounded real excited to be on video.. 🤣
Gotta love hydraulic fluid.. wait until you have a tractor and you’re trying to change out implements.. had the grappler shower me with that stuff on a hot summer day with no immediate access to a shower. Was a great day.
Wow, these are awesome. I love my z36’s, they do a great job but having that extra stopping power with my 37’s would be ideal. Definitely a future upgrade for me. Thanks for the review!
Do you recommend the big brake upgrade kit or the standard kit for 35” Milestar Patagonia MTs on a 17” KMC Rockstar wheel? My pedal is so spongy since I put the 35s on with my bumpers and 2.5” JKS JSPEC lift. I am hoping one of these kits will drastically help that for me.
Great video! I ended up buying the crown big brake kit which rotor goes up to a 13 inch rotor from a 12 inch originally and an upgraded dual piston calipers with the z36 brake pads which are almost twice as big as the oem ones. Its a good combination.
I also purchased the bigger bore master cylinder but I have not installed it yet. Its the J8 model master cylinder I think. Crown also sells it. Big brake kit P/N RT31046. There is a video on UA-cam about the upgrade from crown.
Another great video Jason! Looking forward to trying out the big brake conversion on my JK. I’m currently running the Z36 package with some custom BLUE painted calipers compliments of Kris & Rodi. Aside from the great braking power, the blue just pops and definitely turns heads!
37's and the z36's are ok for me so this big brake upgrade sounds awesome and will be going that way for sure. Oh btw antifreeze to me is the worst fluid
I have read on many Jeep FB groups that cross drilled and slotted rotors are really bad if your off-roading your Jeep, all the dust, dirt, sand gets in the holes and grooves and destroys the pads. Make sense. Crossed drilled and slotted rotors seem fine for the everyday Jeep on the road that doesn’t see any off-roading.
I've been using them for years in all different conditions with good results. Maybe if you run east coast mud trails all the time, I could see that being tricky to maintain but otherwise they are great.
The weather made all of this difficult but this upgrade showed significant improvement in braking ability and the stability management computer is actually "happier" with the more efficient brakes. Thanks!
AutoEdits ok lol. She just seemed really monotone when she said “holding” when she was holding the brake pedal down and when you asked her how the brake pedal felt lol.
@@jrcentannime Might I recommend trying this kit instead www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSDGD42/?ref=exp_autoedits_dp_vv_d The bang for the buck ($301 at the time I type this) is fantastic and much easier to install!
Ok I love the vids and this channel influenced me to modify my jeep myself, now im on 4.25 inches of lift on 35s and im wondering if im the only one who noticed he didn’t clean the oil off of the rotors with brake cleaner before he installed
Idk how accurate this is considering I’ve never personally bled any brakes, but I’ve heard that you need to start with the farthest caliper from the master cylinder. Any thoughts? Great vid Jason Jeep looks “solid” as your wife said first lol
It's not a bad suggestion but it mostly applies to vehicles that have a "T" from the master cylinder to both rear calipers... modern ABS vehicles have independent lines so it doesn't matter as much.
Please do an ignition coil video! My Jeep is throwing cylinder misfires all day long every day. First it was #2, then I had #5 injector replaced. I know that if your jeep doesn't throw the code it's useless, but I'd love to see a budget build with plugs and coils rebuilt!
Another great video.. Glad to see your still workin on the jeep... Have you ever thought about upgrading the front axle to manual locking hubs just curious
Hey Jason, have you had to relighted your parking brake? If you’re like the rest of Jeep world, I’m sure they would like your video on how you did, or would tackle that common issue! I’ve seen some Ausi boys use springs to tighten the handle spring, just wondering how you would handle it.
Hi Jason. Another great video! I've always heard that you DON'T want drilled and slotted rotors when driving off road, because they clog up with mud and dirt, negating their cooing effect and trapping gritty material against your brake pads, which can make them wear faster. Have you noticed them getting clogged with mud? Also, have you considered a package that includes a bigger booster and master cylinder, such as the Mopar Big Brake Kit? That's where your real stopping power comes from, isn't it?
I don't do enough mud driving for that to be a concern. I have friends back east that do a bunch of mud wheeling on this setup with good results. I totally understand why that would be a concern but haven't had a problem. I drove through miles of mud in Mexico with the setup on my truck and had no issues. I didn't want to change the master cylinder on the Jeep because that's a much bigger job and the performance I get from this setup is phenomenal. Does that hit all the topics?!
@@AutoEdits Thanks for the speedy and thorough reply. Yes! It hits all the topics. I very much appreciate the background info you supplied. I also keep my JKUR out of the mud at every opportunity. I took it in the mud once, once was enough, then I found out how hard mud can be on your rig, so I bravely run away from it every chance I get. Keep the great videos coming! I have stuff on my JKUR based on your videos. :-)
Hey Jason! Just wanna say thanks and I love your videos! I've been following you for years. Your videos and reviews have have help me with a lot of my Jeep projects, Game changer lift, Metalcloak steering, front bumper, winch, JW Speaker headlights, Baja designs lp6, probably more lol. Are you still happy with the big brake kit? My stock brakes are weak and I'm only running 35's. Thanks!
Howdy and thanks so much for the support and awesome comment! Being honest... the best "bang for the buck" brake upgrade is simply the Z36 pad and rotor combo www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSDGD42?ref=exp_autoedits_dp_vv_d&th=1 You can see an option there for new Red calipers if you want but you will be thrilled with this upgrade!
Hi Jason, I’m converting over to this brake system because of your video. I’ve seen some negative info regarding mud and sand getting caught in the slots and holes and wearing down the pads in a negative manner. Can you provide a review on this? I have the same Jeep model, year and color as yours… Thanks for all your help.
The only time I noticed mud in the cross drilled rotors is after my last trip in very deep mud. I pressure washed the chassis and made sure to hit the brakes and rotors extra good and it seems to be ok. But that's the first time I noticed mud in there after years.
Thanks for responding Jason. My caliper locked up during one of our club events over the weekend so I hope this kit does the trick. You’re awesome man, thanks for all the great videos.
Those are the Trail 6 pro lights from JW Speaker. They don't have turn signal abilities because the turn signal is now integrated into the actual headlights. Here's the video featuring them... ua-cam.com/video/qwHOvTxjqWQ/v-deo.html
I think you were overly cautious with the brake master cylinder running empty. 😅 The easiest way to do the modern cars is the one man bleeder bottle system in my opinion. You just got to make sure you always run the hose up before you run it down so there's always fluid against the bleed nipple. And also that you have fluid at the bottom of the straw in the bottle. This double air lock allows you to see more of the bubbles instead of just guessing, if that bubble was coming out of the bottom of the straw you can actually watch it leave the nipple. On the jeeps it doesn't really matter cuz ABS module is on the driver side right below the brake master cylinder. But on some vehicles you actually want to bleed in a non-traditional fashion as the ABS module can be on the passengers side. I wish point the furthest tire would be the driver's side rear tire. 😅 With the one man bleeder bottles you can get in the vehicle and push the brakes. Just make sure that you don't push it full stroke the first couple times if you're going from an empty system. Otherwise you can nick that. O-ring and then you'll be replacing the master cylinder😂😅
Thanks for posting this. I am thinking about buying the Power Stop after watching your prior posts on this brake upgrade. There are a number of posts on UA-cam complaining about noise and other problems with drilled and slotted rotors. You obviously love these. Do you have any concerns about this? Thanks.
I have noticed on previous vehicles that the rear cross drilled and slotted rotors will make a very slight "whirring" sound when stopping because they are not center vented and air stays in the drilled holes during operation. I don't notice that on the Jeep or truck but that might be because I have mud terrain tires that make a bit extra noise... so no I don't have any concerns with them and have thousands of happy miles with them!
I think their point is to keep the kit in balance with the stock master cylinder. My buddy went with the two piston teraflex kit and the pedal stroke is way longer than I personally like with the stock master cylinder. My kit outperforms that kit... hands down and no brake dust on the wheels.
Just got a (new to me) JK with 35” and was looking for something to help it stop better. The stock ones work but they don’t stop on a dime. Are the calibers in this kit the same size as stock? I ask cause I see they sell the kit with and without them. I’d love to save money and just buy the pads and rotors kit.
Yes, I'm glad I did this kit but the best bargain is to just get the pads and rotors for sure! www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSDGD42?tag=onamzjasonlew-20&linkCode=ssc&creativeASIN=B00JSDGD42&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3V59WNMGIVSC0&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin
This is annoying because I just upgraded to the Z36 kit on my JK based on your previous review. I like the kit but I had really wanted a big brake upgrade and here a few months later it is out!
That is a tough one on the timing! Happens to me sometimes as well. Hang on a bit and see if they come up with a kit that has just brackets and rotors... will make the transition very easy!
I'm looking to do this upgrade to my 2008 jeep wrangler Sahara and have looked all over the interweb for the answer to this question and haven't found anything so I'm hoping you have a clue. Do you have to upgrade the brake master cylinder for this kit like you have to for other big brake kits?
No! It uses the stock master cylinder since the calipers are the same size. Just the rotors are getting big with this kit. I’ve been very happy with it.
I have a question. I recently purchased the power stop brake kit that you took off. In researching doing brakes for JK’s using loctite blue is a very mixed message. Is it something that is recommended due to it being an after market kit? Or, is it something you really need to do when you torque to specs? There are so many different opinions from JK owners, Jeep servicemen and other mechanics saying to not use it, since the manual no where says to use anything.
Hey Jason. Great video once again. Great detail and instruction. I have a 2017 Rubicon JK 4-door and was considering the PowerStop Big brake kit but several friends have suggested going with a 2-piston system. Currently run 35’s with a 3.5” lift. Planning on a 4” lift with 37’s. Thoughts on a 2-piston vs this one?
Being honest... I feel the best "bang for the buck" upgrade is still just the Z36 pads and drilled and slotted rotors. I ran that for years with 37" tires and was very happy. The big brake kit is much more expensive and does offer noticeable performance improvement but not as much as that initial upgrade to the Z36 pads. I don't consider going with the dual pistons just because of how the stock master cylinders aren't designed for that. Should consider making that change as well if you are going that way.
@@AutoEdits good point about the master cylinder. I’m definitely hauling more weight with overlanding gear and and Jeep mods. Thanks for the info and time. Hope to see you on the trails soon.
Jason is the actual pad size different? The reason I'm asking is when you were doing the close up of the rear rotor it looks like there is a lot of unused rotor left (19:30). I understand that a larger rotor will be able to dissipate more heat but the contact area I would say is more important (just my opinion of course :-) ).
One of the things I like about this kit is that it uses the stock size pads and gains leverage by using larger rotors and caliper brackets that adapt factory style components to get more stopping power. This is helpful to those that don't want to change master cylinder or any other parts of the stock system. I've been thrilled with the results so far.
Looks great... But I chose the Crown Automotive kit because you get dual piston calipers (basically dodge ram brakes) and the cost is roughly 1/3 ($450ish) of the power stop kit.
But then you have mis-matched wheel cylinders to the master cylinder and the pedal stroke is too long. I like the looks of that kit but unless you change the master... it isn't good enough for me and changing the master cylinder is way more work.
@@AutoEdits Yes, and if you upgrade to 2-piston calipers up front while leaving the back stock, you will increase brake bias to the front axle which could affect stability under hard braking. This kit on the other hand should not affect brake bias much, if at all, since piston area is unchanged.
If you swap a two piston caliper than you’ll likely have to change master cylinder as well and for the performance and ease of install… the Z36 pads are hard to beat.
Hey Jason! Great video love the jeep project, i was wondering if you could help me out with a problem I'm facing. I have a 07 ram 1500 with the stupid cv front drive shaft, my truck is lifted 6 inches so it likes to ware out and spit the boot out i was wondering where i could go to possibly get an upgraded drive shaft or convert it to ujoins if you could help me i will be very thankful! Have a great day and thanks for reading!
Hey Jason. I placed my order for these the other day (went with the extended brake lines for some future proofing). I'm only on 35s, but I never liked the way my JKUR braked. It always felt like it was at it's limit, but then again I'm used to cars with 4-6 piston fixed calipers up front, so I forgot what normal brakes are supposed to feel like. I hope these at least help bridge some of that gap. Now that you've had them on for a while, how have they been? The only slight trade-off I see with these is possibly increased pad wear since they are used against a larger rotor. Have you noticed this to be the case? No big deal really, as a pad swap is super cheap and easy. Anyways, love your channel! I did the B&M shifter and transfer case handles 2 years ago using your videos as a guide, and it was the best upgrade (by far) that I have ever done to the Jeep. Hoping this one will be a close second. Thanks for continuing to make great content!
Thank you so much! The brakes on the Jeep are still so good it's easy to forget about them because the Jeep drives like a car now (in a good way!) Just make sure to do a good job on the bleeding process which can get tricky on some applications. I'm very particular on having a great pedal feel. My Jeep is fantastic but it took me forever to get my buddy Joe's Jeep right. I ended up buying one of those inexpensive pressure bleeders and it worked amazing. Can't believe I was doing it without that thing all these years. Do a good job "bedding them in" and you'll be thrilled.
@@AutoEdits Just an update. I've been running this set for about 8 months now, and what a difference! I did buy a Motive pressure bleeder, which I figured was a good investment since I maintain all our cars. It definitely made the bleeding process easy (...to be honest, almost too easy. I bled the whole set like 4 times, thinking there had to be more air, but it was just nice, clean fluid). No, it doesn't stop like carbon ceramics or anything, but I no longer get nervous in hard braking. It slows my JKU on heavy Nitto 35s with tons of confidence. Even coming to a slow, controlled stop requires significantly less pedal effort, and pedal throw is maintained since it still uses the factory single piston calipers. This has been by far the best upgrade on the Jeep. Thanks again for this super helpful video.
Great video When I need new brake pads I think I will go with the power stop kit. Hey do you know if Vision discontinued the bead lock wheels? I can’t find them anywhere Cheers
Thanks, you'll like the setup! They have a few versions of the 398 Manx Beadlock.... I ordered this one with the 5 lug Jeep bolt pattern www.visionwheel.com/wheel/7215/VisionOffRoad/398%20Manx-Beadlock?finishID=1897
Those are the 6Pak shocks from MetalCloak and they are the upgrade! Love them... not changing! The biggest feature is that they offer the most shock travel of anything on the market, more up and down travel combined. The Fox shocks are great, not discounting that but for this application... 6Pak's rule! LOL
Thanks for your time to answer my question. One more question about shocks. Do the shocks you have now act like a baja style shock for faster travel over rough terrain.
Question for y’all...I already have the power stop Z36 upgrade but....I recently bought a 4 seat RZR about 1,900 lbs. (I know Jeeps aren’t meant for towing) but my Wranglers all I got for now...But my question is should I upgrade to this big break kit ,duel piston breaks(teraFlex) or should I be fine with the Z36 I have now... and the reason I ask is cuz when I’m towing that bad boy it feels like I have to put way more pressure to the break petal than normal also down hill breaking kinda worry’s me...let me know what y’all think??
If the Z36 kit already comes with the same rotors now I don't have much incentive to buy the big brake kit. Why buy the same calipers that are just powder coated? I mean besides looking awesome of course
They do look good but I understand your point. Plus the z36 pads and rotors make a huge upgrade at only a little over $300 so it’s tough but I like them a lot
If those are stock style calipers, can you do this upgrade with just the pads and rotors? Me for instance, I only have 16k miles on the Jeep, so the stock calipers basically have no wear on them.
I don't see a kit without calipers... I recommend just getting the Z36 Pads and Rotors for your stock calipers until you are ready to do the full swap like I did. I ran that kit for 2 years and loved it and this new setup is just amazing.
The most basic kit for this upgrade includes pads, rotors, and caliper brackets only. This would get you to the same level of braking as long as your calipers are in good condition.
Have you any trouble with these rotors collecting dirt/rocks in the holes and having to take the wheels off and. Mean them out? I am hearing that may be an issue when going off-road, any experiences? Thanks.
Jason, you make ownership of my 1st Jeep that much more fun by your thorough yet simple DIY explanations. I really appreciate all that you do. Keep up the good work and videos, they help a ton. Safe travels
This comment right here is why I truly enjoy doing these videos! Thank you so much... enjoy that Jeep!
@@AutoEdits finally got to this part of my Jeep upgrade. Ordered the big brake conversion kit you have on here and to my disappointment, the packaging was not the same, very cheap and just thrown together 😢. Regardless of that I’m super stoked to get these onto my JK over the weekend. Thank you soo much for these videos, not only are they informative, but they are entertaining as well, I can’t believe so many years have passed since you started this channel. Thank you.
Hate to hear that the Jeep people dislike mustang videos and mustang viewers don’t like jeep videos. I just enjoy your content whether it is the Jeep, truck, or stang just the quality content.
It's all good... the internet is a tough place...LOL I appreciate the people like you even more after dealing with that ugliness!
WHAAAA?!?!? Everybody should have a Jeep and a Mustang. You don't get more American than those two vehicles.
The three things I’d like to add is
1. Clean the heck out of your new rotors with brake cleaner. The manufacturer puts oil on them to prevent them from rusting during freight.
2. Yes, brake fluid is one of the worst fluids. It’s actually corrosive and will eat the paint off your fender or whatever it gets on.
3. Make sure when bleeding brakes, always start farthest from the master cylinder. So rear passenger, rear driver, front passenger, and front driver in that order.
Great video as always Jason! Seems like a really good upgrade, especially being able to lock up your 38” Milestar Patagonia M/Ts!! I have a little bit of a hard time locking up my 35s with four wheel disk brakes on my YJ.
All good suggestions! It's less important now that newer vehicles have independent lines from the stability management pump but a good procedure to follow.
I would recommend getting the Z36 pads and rotors for that YJ stat!
On these particular rotors they are good to go out of the box, no brake clean needed. That said... if you get oils/grease from your fingers on the rotors it is a great idea to keep them as clean as possible.
I just recently did a BBK upgrade on my JK. I fished around YT to try and a quick video on brake bleeding (both 1 and 2 man), and they were all so overly-verbose and confused me even more! I should've just known to come straight back to you Jason. You always have a succinct way of making your point! Much appreciated!
Thanks so much!
I put PowerStop Pads on all my Vehicles because of you Jason. BEST UPGRADE I've spent money on. Thanks for sharing and thanks for the quality vids!
Awesome to hear this! Thanks dude!
Always great to see a video from Jason and Pinto!
Glad to keep bringing them!
Dude you are the man! I have watch almost all your videos and literally made my metal cloak lift kit because of you. Now I want to do this brake kit
Howdy and welcome to the channel! Let me save you a few bucks... I find that the regular kit with pads and rotors performs so good that it isn't always necessary to go the extra expense of the big brake kit. I love having it but for some builds it's just a bit much. www.amazon.com/shop/autoedits/list/3V59WNMGIVSC0?ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d
But again, I'm still thrilled having the big brake kit with fresh powder coated red calipers and all the goodies!
Jason uploads a new video - yup I'm watching before bed. 👍👍❤️
Ha! I'm watching with you... thanks!
@@AutoEdits Righteous! 🤘💪
Thanks for taking the time to put together such a thorough video. Was able to follow along with you and get a perfect install. Very much appreciated!
So glad to hear this!!!
Excellent video brother once again showing us garage mechanics (non pros) that you can upgrade stuff right at home. Keep up the videos loving your content, Jeep, truck and Mustang
Love hearing this and thanks so much... definitely non pro...LOL!
Great video Jason. I placed my order for a front/rear kit yesterday. Looking forward to getting these bad boys installed. I've read nothing but positive reviews from multiple sites for this kit.
Have fun with the install... I'm still really happy with the setup!
Jeep in the garage! Mustang movement! So much goodness in a single episode.
LOL... Thanks dude! Hope the house remodel is going smoothly!
@@AutoEdits As smoothly as any of them go. We'll have a lovely space for the holidays, and the garage will be back to full time work duty.
Don't forget to rinse anything with brake fluid on it with water. It will cut the brake fluid. Brake fluid will eat paint and primer all the way to bare metal.
Great video. I'm thinking of doing this upgrade.
Great reminder... You will be very happy with this one!
@@AutoEdits I just finished some front axle and steering upgrades and I was just talking to someone about this kit. Looks simple.
Great video once again Jason! Your videos are on point, as usual. The background music is just perfect unlike so many other videos! You take your time to explain everything well, which is very useful! Keep up the good work! Say hi to Pinto! 👍
Well, thank you very much!
Your jeep is coming along nicely! I've gotta do this conversion soon! my 37's and factory brakes don't quite get along.
I can honestly say I love them so far! Even if you go with the Z36 Pad and Rotor combo... you will be thrilled!
I almost took a deer out after I put 37s on my jeep because it just wouldn’t stop. That night I ordered a crown big brake kit which is ram 1500 dual piston calipers and a 13” rotor. I’m wanting to see if the Powerstop z76 pads for the ram will fit those calipers.
Thanks for the tip!!! This a great upgrade my JK break works good but definitely I will consider to make this upgrade
Took me a minute to catch wise that this is a new video for the upgraded powerstop kit. I watched, and enjoyed the last video. When I need brakes, I’m buying this kit. My Jeep has gotten armor, bumpers, and a very heavy winch. I’ll take a bigger brake kit!
Great tip on the keeping brake fluid in the reservoir. Once it's dry, it's a sure trip to the dealer or a shop that has the scan tool to bleed the ABS pump. Don't ask me how I know . . .
Ha! It's real!
So this is the same idea basically as the big rotor kits from Teraflex except far more complete. A nice upgrade! By the way, your wife sounded real excited to be on video.. 🤣
Yes... it's in the range of other kits but it has the best pads of any kit on the market... by far! And yes, the wife was thrilled to help... LOL
AutoEdits 👍 I run the Teraflex kits with EBC Yellow stuff. The stopping power is very impressive but the dust those pads make is impressive too 😩
Appreciate the honesty about the new brakes versus the Z36. Will still consider.
Of course! Thanks for watching!
Power Stop for the win 🏆 this will be our next upgrade saving up the $$ now can't wait 😀 thanks great video
Good choice!
I did the same brake upgrade to mine front and rear. Sure stops a lot better. I have 18 " wheels with 35 tires
Yeah! I'm super happy with this kit... keep thinking of excuses to go and run errands and drive the thing!
Those are some sweet looking brakes!!!! Nice setup and Great instructional video!!!!
Thanks!
Gotta love hydraulic fluid.. wait until you have a tractor and you’re trying to change out implements.. had the grappler shower me with that stuff on a hot summer day with no immediate access to a shower. Was a great day.
You've convinced me to add these brakes to my Christmas list! Awesome job on all your projects an videos.
You'll be happy! Merry Xmas
@@AutoEdits merry Christmas
Have you told santa?
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The excitement in your wife's voice was classic....."holding..." 😐
You owe her for that assistance! 😅
Yup!
Wow, these are awesome. I love my z36’s, they do a great job but having that extra stopping power with my 37’s would be ideal. Definitely a future upgrade for me. Thanks for the review!
Glad to hear you like the z36's already! Yes this just turns it up to 11...lol
Do you recommend the big brake upgrade kit or the standard kit for 35” Milestar Patagonia MTs on a 17” KMC Rockstar wheel? My pedal is so spongy since I put the 35s on with my bumpers and 2.5” JKS JSPEC lift. I am hoping one of these kits will drastically help that for me.
Great video! I ended up buying the crown big brake kit which rotor goes up to a 13 inch rotor from a 12 inch originally and an upgraded dual piston calipers with the z36 brake pads which are almost twice as big as the oem ones. Its a good combination.
Sounds like a good kit. I'm not sure how you can swap to dual piston calipers without changing master cylinder but hope it works well for you.
I also purchased the bigger bore master cylinder but I have not installed it yet. Its the J8 model master cylinder I think. Crown also sells it. Big brake kit P/N RT31046. There is a video on UA-cam about the upgrade from crown.
Man this thing keeps lookin better and better... It would look even better sitting in my driveway lol....
We can arrange that... LOL
@@AutoEdits lol.....
@@AutoEdits lol i would love that.. But if you sell your jeep then we won't be able to see you up grade the jeep anymore and we can't have that....
Uh. I've got to hide this video. My wife is watching me. "More parts!"
HA! Good luck!!!
It’s been a while. Thanks for the informative videos. Your the man Jason 👊💪😎
You are correct and I'm glad to get back out there! Thanks!!!!
Another great video Jason! Looking forward to trying out the big brake conversion on my JK. I’m currently running the Z36 package with some custom BLUE painted calipers compliments of Kris & Rodi. Aside from the great braking power, the blue just pops and definitely turns heads!
I'll bet you can get a new set of brackets and rotors to keep your calipers!
your lipgloss is DEFINITELY poppin'
Great videos. This channel should have 1M subscribes
You are the best, thanks!
Yeah that packaging a lot nicer than when I got my brakes from them
Well, he is sponsored by them
37's and the z36's are ok for me so this big brake upgrade sounds awesome and will be going that way for sure. Oh btw antifreeze to me is the worst fluid
Yeah... that stuff is pretty bad as well... never seems to wipe off!
I have read on many Jeep FB groups that cross drilled and slotted rotors are really bad if your off-roading your Jeep, all the dust, dirt, sand gets in the holes and grooves and destroys the pads. Make sense. Crossed drilled and slotted rotors seem fine for the everyday Jeep on the road that doesn’t see any off-roading.
I've been using them for years in all different conditions with good results. Maybe if you run east coast mud trails all the time, I could see that being tricky to maintain but otherwise they are great.
Great Video again, Thx for taking the time to put it all together for us.
Thanks for watching and taking a moment to comment!
magic unicorn farts? YES!! i need this.
LOL!
Hmm. I wish you did a brake test with measurements before and after the big kit upgrade. However, nice work. Thank you sir.
The weather made all of this difficult but this upgrade showed significant improvement in braking ability and the stability management computer is actually "happier" with the more efficient brakes. Thanks!
Nice video! Your wife sounds really excited to help lol
HA! She actually was mostly fine with it... mostly...
AutoEdits ok lol. She just seemed really monotone when she said “holding” when she was holding the brake pedal down and when you asked her how the brake pedal felt lol.
Nice stuff.. need to get amongst this mod on mine!
Yes you do!
Your Wife sounds very enthusiastic .Same as mine when i need a hand !
I'm just happy she puts up with me...lol!
@@AutoEdits We are lucky they do. grate video. Im thinking of doing this upgrade. But not sure if i want to do it myself
@@jrcentannime Might I recommend trying this kit instead www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSDGD42/?ref=exp_autoedits_dp_vv_d
The bang for the buck ($301 at the time I type this) is fantastic and much easier to install!
I want these, chrome and shinny and has maga power to stop a big vehicle.
I was looking at the Duralast Gold.
Hi Jason loved the vids as always . waiting for more on large marge. LOL 😂 on a side not loved the enthusiasm from Mrs. Autoedit Lolololz.
Getting a good bit done here and there... having trouble finding a few parts but I'm still on it!
Any plans on upgrading to a Dana 80? Make it a beefy 8 lug axle
Not at this point... but you never know... I did just get a brand new set of really expensive 5 lug wheels so I'm going to stay like this for a bit!
AutoEdits figured I’d mention it, saw the tires and thought about the strain and better gearing could be cool and awesome Videos
Ok I love the vids and this channel influenced me to modify my jeep myself, now im on 4.25 inches of lift on 35s and im wondering if im the only one who noticed he didn’t clean the oil off of the rotors with brake cleaner before he installed
These rotors don't come shipped with an oil coating.
Great videos by the way. Very intuitive 👍
Thanks!
Jeep'in Jason, PU Jason & Mustang Jason all make great videos & Damn do the J2s look good on Marge !
I agree... they are a home run! Thanks!
Idk how accurate this is considering I’ve never personally bled any brakes, but I’ve heard that you need to start with the farthest caliper from the master cylinder. Any thoughts? Great vid Jason Jeep looks “solid” as your wife said first lol
You should start with the cylinder farthest from the master cylinder.
It's not a bad suggestion but it mostly applies to vehicles that have a "T" from the master cylinder to both rear calipers... modern ABS vehicles have independent lines so it doesn't matter as much.
This is pretty cool ,the brakes look nice thanks for the video.
Great video Jason!
Jeep lookin good too!
Yeah Buddy!
Please do an ignition coil video! My Jeep is throwing cylinder misfires all day long every day. First it was #2, then I had #5 injector replaced. I know that if your jeep doesn't throw the code it's useless, but I'd love to see a budget build with plugs and coils rebuilt!
I'll check into a few options.
Love the Jeep. Looking great.
Thanks!
Another great video.. Glad to see your still workin on the jeep... Have you ever thought about upgrading the front axle to manual locking hubs just curious
How would that be an "upgrade"?
Awesome video great job as usual. 👍🏼
Thanks, Awesome Comment! LOL
Hey Jason, have you had to relighted your parking brake? If you’re like the rest of Jeep world, I’m sure they would like your video on how you did, or would tackle that common issue! I’ve seen some Ausi boys use springs to tighten the handle spring, just wondering how you would handle it.
Hi Jason. Another great video! I've always heard that you DON'T want drilled and slotted rotors when driving off road, because they clog up with mud and dirt, negating their cooing effect and trapping gritty material against your brake pads, which can make them wear faster. Have you noticed them getting clogged with mud? Also, have you considered a package that includes a bigger booster and master cylinder, such as the Mopar Big Brake Kit? That's where your real stopping power comes from, isn't it?
I don't do enough mud driving for that to be a concern. I have friends back east that do a bunch of mud wheeling on this setup with good results. I totally understand why that would be a concern but haven't had a problem. I drove through miles of mud in Mexico with the setup on my truck and had no issues.
I didn't want to change the master cylinder on the Jeep because that's a much bigger job and the performance I get from this setup is phenomenal. Does that hit all the topics?!
@@AutoEdits Thanks for the speedy and thorough reply. Yes! It hits all the topics. I very much appreciate the background info you supplied. I also keep my JKUR out of the mud at every opportunity. I took it in the mud once, once was enough, then I found out how hard mud can be on your rig, so I bravely run away from it every chance I get. Keep the great videos coming! I have stuff on my JKUR based on your videos. :-)
Hey Jason! Just wanna say thanks and I love your videos! I've been following you for years. Your videos and reviews have have help me with a lot of my Jeep projects, Game changer lift, Metalcloak steering, front bumper, winch, JW Speaker headlights, Baja designs lp6, probably more lol. Are you still happy with the big brake kit? My stock brakes are weak and I'm only running 35's. Thanks!
Howdy and thanks so much for the support and awesome comment! Being honest... the best "bang for the buck" brake upgrade is simply the Z36 pad and rotor combo www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSDGD42?ref=exp_autoedits_dp_vv_d&th=1
You can see an option there for new Red calipers if you want but you will be thrilled with this upgrade!
@@AutoEdits Thank you so much for the honest reply and link! Keep up with the great videos!
Great video man love these !!!!
THANK YOU!
8:06 is very important... *only 17" wheels or bigger .!.*
Most JK Jeeps come with a 17" wheel.
So this should work with stock 17” rubicon wheels right?
@@chuckisbusy i can't find answer if this is accurate. did you do the upgrade?
@@GearNutsNet I have aftermarket wheels now. They should work, if they don’t you might need wheel spacers. It’ll be a backspacing issue.
Hi Jason,
I’m converting over to this brake system because of your video. I’ve seen some negative info regarding mud and sand getting caught in the slots and holes and wearing down the pads in a negative manner. Can you provide a review on this?
I have the same Jeep model, year and color as yours… Thanks for all your help.
The only time I noticed mud in the cross drilled rotors is after my last trip in very deep mud. I pressure washed the chassis and made sure to hit the brakes and rotors extra good and it seems to be ok. But that's the first time I noticed mud in there after years.
Thanks for responding Jason.
My caliper locked up during one of our club events over the weekend so I hope this kit does the trick.
You’re awesome man, thanks for all the great videos.
Great video Jason
I appreciate this!
What lights do you have as your turn signal lights? Really cool! Nice video! Was up in the air about these brakes, now have my answer.. :)
Those are the Trail 6 pro lights from JW Speaker. They don't have turn signal abilities because the turn signal is now integrated into the actual headlights. Here's the video featuring them... ua-cam.com/video/qwHOvTxjqWQ/v-deo.html
I still have factory brakes. Used them through the Rubicon. Not sure how they survived except by the grace of God. 😂
I found better brakes made off roading much more fun and at least less scary sometimes...LOL
I think you were overly cautious with the brake master cylinder running empty. 😅
The easiest way to do the modern cars is the one man bleeder bottle system in my opinion. You just got to make sure you always run the hose up before you run it down so there's always fluid against the bleed nipple. And also that you have fluid at the bottom of the straw in the bottle.
This double air lock allows you to see more of the bubbles instead of just guessing, if that bubble was coming out of the bottom of the straw you can actually watch it leave the nipple.
On the jeeps it doesn't really matter cuz ABS module is on the driver side right below the brake master cylinder. But on some vehicles you actually want to bleed in a non-traditional fashion as the ABS module can be on the passengers side. I wish point the furthest tire would be the driver's side rear tire. 😅
With the one man bleeder bottles you can get in the vehicle and push the brakes. Just make sure that you don't push it full stroke the first couple times if you're going from an empty system. Otherwise you can nick that. O-ring and then you'll be replacing the master cylinder😂😅
Nice.. thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for posting this. I am thinking about buying the Power Stop after watching your prior posts on this brake upgrade. There are a number of posts on UA-cam complaining about noise and other problems with drilled and slotted rotors. You obviously love these. Do you have any concerns about this? Thanks.
I have noticed on previous vehicles that the rear cross drilled and slotted rotors will make a very slight "whirring" sound when stopping because they are not center vented and air stays in the drilled holes during operation. I don't notice that on the Jeep or truck but that might be because I have mud terrain tires that make a bit extra noise... so no I don't have any concerns with them and have thousands of happy miles with them!
Thank you!
Great video! To bad powerstop don't have 2 piston calipers for the big brake kits.
I think their point is to keep the kit in balance with the stock master cylinder. My buddy went with the two piston teraflex kit and the pedal stroke is way longer than I personally like with the stock master cylinder. My kit outperforms that kit... hands down and no brake dust on the wheels.
Just got a (new to me) JK with 35” and was looking for something to help it stop better. The stock ones work but they don’t stop on a dime. Are the calibers in this kit the same size as stock? I ask cause I see they sell the kit with and without them. I’d love to save money and just buy the pads and rotors kit.
Yes, I'm glad I did this kit but the best bargain is to just get the pads and rotors for sure! www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSDGD42?tag=onamzjasonlew-20&linkCode=ssc&creativeASIN=B00JSDGD42&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3V59WNMGIVSC0&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin
This is annoying because I just upgraded to the Z36 kit on my JK based on your previous review. I like the kit but I had really wanted a big brake upgrade and here a few months later it is out!
That is a tough one on the timing! Happens to me sometimes as well. Hang on a bit and see if they come up with a kit that has just brackets and rotors... will make the transition very easy!
I'm looking to do this upgrade to my 2008 jeep wrangler Sahara and have looked all over the interweb for the answer to this question and haven't found anything so I'm hoping you have a clue. Do you have to upgrade the brake master cylinder for this kit like you have to for other big brake kits?
No! It uses the stock master cylinder since the calipers are the same size. Just the rotors are getting big with this kit. I’ve been very happy with it.
I have a question. I recently purchased the power stop brake kit that you took off. In researching doing brakes for JK’s using loctite blue is a very mixed message. Is it something that is recommended due to it being an after market kit? Or, is it something you really need to do when you torque to specs? There are so many different opinions from JK owners, Jeep servicemen and other mechanics saying to not use it, since the manual no where says to use anything.
I had a caliper come loose on the freeway decades ago and now ALWAYS put loctite and torque to spec. with excellent results.
Hey Jason. Great video once again. Great detail and instruction. I have a 2017 Rubicon JK 4-door and was considering the PowerStop Big brake kit but several friends have suggested going with a 2-piston system. Currently run 35’s with a 3.5” lift. Planning on a 4” lift with 37’s. Thoughts on a 2-piston vs this one?
Being honest... I feel the best "bang for the buck" upgrade is still just the Z36 pads and drilled and slotted rotors. I ran that for years with 37" tires and was very happy. The big brake kit is much more expensive and does offer noticeable performance improvement but not as much as that initial upgrade to the Z36 pads. I don't consider going with the dual pistons just because of how the stock master cylinders aren't designed for that. Should consider making that change as well if you are going that way.
@@AutoEdits good point about the master cylinder. I’m definitely hauling more weight with overlanding gear and and Jeep mods. Thanks for the info and time. Hope to see you on the trails soon.
@@AutoEdits Hi Jason, and happy Holidays! Do you have a link on the Z36 pads and drilled and slotted rotors?
@@jimcobm3 Sure thing www.amazon.com/dp/B00JSDGD42?ref=exp_autoedits_dp_vv_d
Jason is the actual pad size different? The reason I'm asking is when you were doing the close up of the rear rotor it looks like there is a lot of unused rotor left (19:30). I understand that a larger rotor will be able to dissipate more heat but the contact area I would say is more important (just my opinion of course :-) ).
One of the things I like about this kit is that it uses the stock size pads and gains leverage by using larger rotors and caliper brackets that adapt factory style components to get more stopping power. This is helpful to those that don't want to change master cylinder or any other parts of the stock system. I've been thrilled with the results so far.
Looks great... But I chose the Crown Automotive kit because you get dual piston calipers (basically dodge ram brakes) and the cost is roughly 1/3 ($450ish) of the power stop kit.
But then you have mis-matched wheel cylinders to the master cylinder and the pedal stroke is too long. I like the looks of that kit but unless you change the master... it isn't good enough for me and changing the master cylinder is way more work.
@@AutoEdits Yes, and if you upgrade to 2-piston calipers up front while leaving the back stock, you will increase brake bias to the front axle which could affect stability under hard braking. This kit on the other hand should not affect brake bias much, if at all, since piston area is unchanged.
Any difference on a double piston compared to the single piston Caliper like the one you have.
If you swap a two piston caliper than you’ll likely have to change master cylinder as well and for the performance and ease of install… the Z36 pads are hard to beat.
Are the big brake kits released yet? I couldn’t find them on their site??
There’s a link in the description to them on amazon
A dedicated landing page is coming, but for now please follow this link in Jason's description.
if you dont have open lug nuts and your capped lugnuts dont reach the rotor hub. use a box wrench with your capped lug nuts.
Hey Jason! Great video love the jeep project, i was wondering if you could help me out with a problem I'm facing. I have a 07 ram 1500 with the stupid cv front drive shaft, my truck is lifted 6 inches so it likes to ware out and spit the boot out i was wondering where i could go to possibly get an upgraded drive shaft or convert it to ujoins if you could help me i will be very thankful! Have a great day and thanks for reading!
Call Tom Wood's Driveshafts 877-497-4238. I always ask for Shawn but they all know what's up!
Alright will do thanks!
Hey Jason. I placed my order for these the other day (went with the extended brake lines for some future proofing). I'm only on 35s, but I never liked the way my JKUR braked. It always felt like it was at it's limit, but then again I'm used to cars with 4-6 piston fixed calipers up front, so I forgot what normal brakes are supposed to feel like. I hope these at least help bridge some of that gap.
Now that you've had them on for a while, how have they been? The only slight trade-off I see with these is possibly increased pad wear since they are used against a larger rotor. Have you noticed this to be the case? No big deal really, as a pad swap is super cheap and easy.
Anyways, love your channel! I did the B&M shifter and transfer case handles 2 years ago using your videos as a guide, and it was the best upgrade (by far) that I have ever done to the Jeep. Hoping this one will be a close second. Thanks for continuing to make great content!
Thank you so much! The brakes on the Jeep are still so good it's easy to forget about them because the Jeep drives like a car now (in a good way!) Just make sure to do a good job on the bleeding process which can get tricky on some applications. I'm very particular on having a great pedal feel. My Jeep is fantastic but it took me forever to get my buddy Joe's Jeep right. I ended up buying one of those inexpensive pressure bleeders and it worked amazing. Can't believe I was doing it without that thing all these years. Do a good job "bedding them in" and you'll be thrilled.
@@AutoEdits Just an update. I've been running this set for about 8 months now, and what a difference! I did buy a Motive pressure bleeder, which I figured was a good investment since I maintain all our cars. It definitely made the bleeding process easy (...to be honest, almost too easy. I bled the whole set like 4 times, thinking there had to be more air, but it was just nice, clean fluid). No, it doesn't stop like carbon ceramics or anything, but I no longer get nervous in hard braking. It slows my JKU on heavy Nitto 35s with tons of confidence. Even coming to a slow, controlled stop requires significantly less pedal effort, and pedal throw is maintained since it still uses the factory single piston calipers.
This has been by far the best upgrade on the Jeep. Thanks again for this super helpful video.
Great video When I need new brake pads I think I will go with the power stop kit.
Hey do you know if Vision discontinued the bead lock wheels? I can’t find them anywhere
Cheers
Thanks, you'll like the setup! They have a few versions of the 398 Manx Beadlock.... I ordered this one with the 5 lug Jeep bolt pattern www.visionwheel.com/wheel/7215/VisionOffRoad/398%20Manx-Beadlock?finishID=1897
Was I the only one who cried when the brake fluid touched the paint finish?!?
No need to cry, it wipes right off without damaging anything. Only if you leave it for a while.
Did you say the caliper is the same as stock? Just remanufactured and painted red?
i did the Crown BBK and it uses the bigger rotor and a dual piston caliper.
Did you have to change the master cylinder?
I really like the new brake set up, how much gas m dose that jeep get with those 40
Thanks, those are just 38's and my trip back from Vegas averaged 21 MPG but normal driving is 16... which is amazing to me.
Hey Jason I like your tires do they howl at all on the road? I cannot tell bc of the exhaust your jeep has.
The Milestar Patagonia M/T's I am running are the quietest mud terrain tire I've ever run. They are very good.
they just don't provide enough of that unicorn fart greese!!:)
Right!
Noted... I can see about getting more into each kit.
@@Powerstop wow! that feels pretty cool. Just became a huge fan of PowerStop!!
Hey Jason did you upgrade your brake booster at all / thought of doing so ?
I didn't and don't need to with this setup. My buddy Joe's Jeep could use a booster upgrade but I honestly don't need more brakes for this thing.
I checked their web site and the calipers were just regular metal. Did you ask for the red powder coat ?
www.amazon.com/dp/B07XMJQSZZ?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzjasonlew-20&creativeASIN=B07XMJQSZZ&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3V59WNMGIVSC0&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin
good stuff, appreciate it sir
Thanks!
Would you consider upgrading the shocks or are the one you have enough. And how do those shocks compare to the fox shocks?
Those are the 6Pak shocks from MetalCloak and they are the upgrade! Love them... not changing! The biggest feature is that they offer the most shock travel of anything on the market, more up and down travel combined. The Fox shocks are great, not discounting that but for this application... 6Pak's rule! LOL
Thanks for your time to answer my question. One more question about shocks. Do the shocks you have now act like a baja style shock for faster travel over rough terrain.
What ball joints did you use?
I used Moog for this but have since swapped to the Rare parts and they are MUCH BETTER ua-cam.com/video/ntjWrcJLBkU/v-deo.html
Question for y’all...I already have the power stop Z36 upgrade but....I recently bought a 4 seat RZR about 1,900 lbs. (I know Jeeps aren’t meant for towing) but my Wranglers all I got for now...But my question is should I upgrade to this big break kit ,duel piston breaks(teraFlex) or should I be fine with the Z36 I have now... and the reason I ask is cuz when I’m towing that bad boy it feels like I have to put way more pressure to the break petal than normal also down hill breaking kinda worry’s me...let me know what y’all think??
If the Z36 kit already comes with the same rotors now I don't have much incentive to buy the big brake kit. Why buy the same calipers that are just powder coated? I mean besides looking awesome of course
They do look good but I understand your point. Plus the z36 pads and rotors make a huge upgrade at only a little over $300 so it’s tough but I like them a lot
Hey put some truck videos too!
Okiedokie
Nice!!
If those are stock style calipers, can you do this upgrade with just the pads and rotors? Me for instance, I only have 16k miles on the Jeep, so the stock calipers basically have no wear on them.
I don't see a kit without calipers... I recommend just getting the Z36 Pads and Rotors for your stock calipers until you are ready to do the full swap like I did. I ran that kit for 2 years and loved it and this new setup is just amazing.
The most basic kit for this upgrade includes pads, rotors, and caliper brackets only. This would get you to the same level of braking as long as your calipers are in good condition.
@@Powerstop Thanks!
Have you had to change the slave cylinder or master cylinder yet?
No, still original.
Good information thank you
Have you any trouble with these rotors collecting dirt/rocks in the holes and having to take the wheels off and. Mean them out? I am hearing that may be an issue when going off-road, any experiences? Thanks.
Never any problem or even heard of an actual problem.
@@AutoEdits thanks for responding. We love your channel.