You can combine them with battle taxis like towers, which are faster then rams. They are nice to mix into melee blobs on bush maps as they can see through the bushes. They can build their own siege equipment. I’ve used them to blink over walls and such and sneaky build some rear rams.
A single sabotage on the enemy tc actually makes up for 80% of the resources between the koka township and the kura storehouse. Knocking the enemy down 60 res a minute a pop. The solo shinobi meme approach to this working at all in some cases is funny. The shinobi doing this while an bannerman/samurai or something is distracting the enemy is probably a lot scarier. Since, sure, it might come later then the farm trickle, but if you do it 2-3 times the time difference can easily be made up for.
It also has a different armor class then samurai, so it sort of compliments them in that it puts units in your front line that carry a lot of damage AND aren't countered by crossbows. The regen (~20 res a minute for 15/hp sec) is sort of a meme but its also there for repeated engagements where they don't die.
On Xbox controller, left on the d-pad will teleport your camera to your military units. A few days ago I was able to quickly go back and forth from my scout to my base over and over by using the d-pad, but for some reason the scout no longer is considered a military unit, so I can no longer go to my scout by using the d-pad, so now im struggling to manage my scouts in the early game. I don't know why this was changed but its screwing me up and I dont like it.
Animation speed of the rockets loading/firing vs the near instant fire and impact of cannons on ships, dont feel they will ever be good unless they make them do hella damage.
Yeah and you should be able to dodge any kind of attack. Also, villagers should go to the TC or to a drop-off building and carry the resources to build any building they would build. Also, you should take the resources with villagers to the production buildings so they can use it to build units. And you shouldn't be able to pass walls or terrain obstacles with shushin, it's not magic, it's ninja moves. C'mon guys, where's the realism? AoE4 confirmed not scientific.
Who cares, just make free farms and free gold from broken landmarks and spam broken infantry until opponent gives up. Never care about anything: run out of food? just upgrade tc from base stone, run out of gold? just wait couple of minutes and get a new free relic, never leave base never macro, or micro anything just send waves of samurai until you win.
ughhhhhhhh, really? We're gonna have to deal with this crap now? This is the kind of gameplay that makes me feel crappy even when I win. There's nothing fun about playing against shinobi.
😂 funny cause I just started playing and learning Japanese. I kept telling myself if sabotage get a little buff. Alot people going start quitting against Japanese because of this
Knights in Feudal are also antifun toxic as hell. How is this worse? The Japanese player clearly has to use a lot of micro and map awareness to pull this off, or the Shinobi will die. Meanwhile, any French, Rus, or Mongol player knows that Knights and Keshiks can outrun anything trying to kill them in Feudal while shrugging off arrows like nothing.
that starting double clap felt a bit too fast, thought I was watching it with x1.5 speed XD
oh wow where's QA? I need the correct speed clap
You can combine them with battle taxis like towers, which are faster then rams.
They are nice to mix into melee blobs on bush maps as they can see through the bushes.
They can build their own siege equipment. I’ve used them to blink over walls and such and sneaky build some rear rams.
So what if the enemy build Archers? You gain 1.5 villager advantage but lose 120 res and have an useless LM for the whole game.
He did mention this landmark is still not as good as the other one on land maps. You would only build it on water/hybrid maps.
A single sabotage on the enemy tc actually makes up for 80% of the resources between the koka township and the kura storehouse. Knocking the enemy down 60 res a minute a pop.
The solo shinobi meme approach to this working at all in some cases is funny. The shinobi doing this while an bannerman/samurai or something is distracting the enemy is probably a lot scarier.
Since, sure, it might come later then the farm trickle, but if you do it 2-3 times the time difference can easily be made up for.
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shinobi are still only viable on water or hybrid maps though right?
shinobi also have really high damage for feudal and castle units so that's something to consider as well.
It also has a different armor class then samurai, so it sort of compliments them in that it puts units in your front line that carry a lot of damage AND aren't countered by crossbows.
The regen (~20 res a minute for 15/hp sec) is sort of a meme but its also there for repeated engagements where they don't die.
On Xbox controller, left on the d-pad will teleport your camera to your military units. A few days ago I was able to quickly go back and forth from my scout to my base over and over by using the d-pad, but for some reason the scout no longer is considered a military unit, so I can no longer go to my scout by using the d-pad, so now im struggling to manage my scouts in the early game. I don't know why this was changed but its screwing me up and I dont like it.
I have same problem , it is stupid. How do I easily select the scout now??
I think you can change this back in your settings. It is the “legacy” setting
@@ethanwolfe1980 oh thanks I'll try that tonight. Idk why they have to change basic quality of life stuff.
@@ethanwolfe1980 thank you lil mama , imma try that and imma fix that , uaeno it
@@BOOT3D no worries. It was a much-requested change for PC players who use the “select-all-military” hotkey (shame). But glad I could help!
Shinobis are fun again!
Animation speed of the rockets loading/firing vs the near instant fire and impact of cannons on ships, dont feel they will ever be good unless they make them do hella damage.
Was wondering why I was getting messed up by Japan yesterday lol
tc range seems bug how it hits u over the range
Shinobi is totally gonna work on Gold Tier Land Maps, especially against lower apm like me Lol
Beasty haircut buffed.
jigly good guy
Shinobi needs an auto-healing
Can you try this in real fight?
Ninjas with teleport is the dumbest thing in the Age series.
It's not that op if you have archers in the tc.... 😅
Shoukd not be abke to cast sabotage unless in disguise imo
Yeah and you should be able to dodge any kind of attack.
Also, villagers should go to the TC or to a drop-off building and carry the resources to build any building they would build.
Also, you should take the resources with villagers to the production buildings so they can use it to build units.
And you shouldn't be able to pass walls or terrain obstacles with shushin, it's not magic, it's ninja moves.
C'mon guys, where's the realism?
AoE4 confirmed not scientific.
Who cares, just make free farms and free gold from broken landmarks and spam broken infantry until opponent gives up.
Never care about anything: run out of food? just upgrade tc from base stone, run out of gold? just wait couple of minutes and get a new free relic,
never leave base never macro, or micro anything just send waves of samurai until you win.
let´s be honest, shinobi shouldn´t be able to disable tc
As japanese civ i concur
At leats not the main tc
ughhhhhhhh, really? We're gonna have to deal with this crap now? This is the kind of gameplay that makes me feel crappy even when I win. There's nothing fun about playing against shinobi.
WHILE PLAYING WITH BYZANTINES AND SPAMM FREE UNITS ITS FINE
@@sally200953 you ok?
This looks to be the most antifun toxic patch in the entire history of the game.
😂 funny cause I just started playing and learning Japanese. I kept telling myself if sabotage get a little buff. Alot people going start quitting against Japanese because of this
Looks fun to me
@@KonnorGann Yeah, fun for the Japanese
Knights in Feudal are also antifun toxic as hell. How is this worse? The Japanese player clearly has to use a lot of micro and map awareness to pull this off, or the Shinobi will die. Meanwhile, any French, Rus, or Mongol player knows that Knights and Keshiks can outrun anything trying to kill them in Feudal while shrugging off arrows like nothing.
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