How India and Russia got so close | India's geopolitical dilemma (1/3) | DW Analysis
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- India is under massive pressure to break relations with Russia over the war in Ukraine. But can it afford to do so - and does it even want to?
In Part 1 of “India’s Choice,” a special series on India’s geopolitical dilemmas, DW’s Richard Walker explains the longstanding friendship between India and Russia - a relationship built on weapons, technology, and diplomacy.
Now with Moscow at war and building closer ties to Beijing, there are growing calls within Delhi itself for a serious rethink. Featuring interviews with Jay Panda, Vice President of India’s ruling BJP, Shashi Tharoor of the opposition Congress, Lisa Curtis, former Senior Director, US National Security Council, Garima Mohan of the German Marshall Fund, and Alexey Kupriyanov of IMEMO, Moscow.
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Episode 2 - Why China wants to take India's territory ua-cam.com/video/Iz_JdQSrzBg/v-deo.html
China has taken control of India's main streets with the purchase of many popular apps and payment UPIs in India. So, we need not limit our discussions to only border issues, but try to bring fairness in trade and security relations between China and India. China and India are the two fastest growing economies today.
I also want to tell you.. there are few points we need to think. What if 2 major power come together China/India and Russia.. Then the game for West changes
@@aviationdesigns_mg7883 allying with either China or Russia is like allying with Donald Trump... he will use and abuse you, then say he doesn't know you and that you are the enemy.... and well.. you end up in prison
Economically, the hilly frigid border areas are not of much significance to both China and India. Although India and China got into a bloody incident recently, India and China have not fired shots at each other since 1962. India and China have deep historical relations and exchanges in education and philosophy. Although India and China were the largest two powers for 3,000 years till 1800, they never went to war with each other in the entire history, until 1962.
Start with 1962 China India War then 1971 Pakistan India War ------Who was supporting India at this time ? CCCP was covering for India while USA was propping up Pakistan's Crimes in 1971. Not just stopping at weapons sales. USA wants to Alley with India while threatening India with sanction for Defence missile cover from Russia S-400 .... West has double standards so India will not be West's Colony .... only partnership of Equals
When you talked about the 1971 crisis you "forgot" to talk about the US's and UK's armies closing in on India and the russian submarines which came to protect India's coasts, that was a nice omission.
Correct your comment
They didn't came to "protect"
They came to bomb Us
They didn’t even mention how the Americans and British aided the Pakistani military to commit the 1971 Bangladeshi gen0cide with all their respect for “human rights”.
Yeah, DW is just another version of BBC. Present facts according to their needs.
Actually it was not the armies of the US and the UK, it was the US Navy task force with the USNS Eisenhower battle group that was supposed to come into the Bay of Bengal and potentially threaten India. Two things happened -- 1. Russia said their submarines were already in the Bay of Bengal, this slowed the battle group down, and 2. The Indian Army defeated the Pakistanis in 13 days, which was about one third of what the CIA and most western projections thought it would take.
@@artman12 wrong, get your facts right
It's not India's dilema, it's India's firm political position.
India is Russia’s dog.
@@yj9032 🙏
India should continue to increase our trade with Russia for we do NOT take orders from these violent American TERRORISTS and war criminals. May God bless India (including Nepal), Germany (including Austria), North Korea (including South Korea), China (including Taiwan), and Russia (including Ukraine). And down with these violent American TERRORISTS and war criminals.
India's clarity is world's dilemma.
When India needed help in 1971 USSR/Ukraine was there to help. Now you buy Putin's blood oil and finance mass terror bombing. KARMA
Haha indeed
I like how the Indian politicians try to wrap this policy into some sort of mystical stance coming from their unique culture...in Europe after WWII there's only one practical word for it..."collaboration"...my grandfather who watched this behavior in other European nations during WWII said to me: "Every collaborator sooner of later finds himself in the boots of the victim"...I guess this will happen when China comes to push the border southwards and the expected arms supplies from Russia won't arrive...
@@socrates6870 Collberating with the colonizer for short term gain when you live next to one of the largest colonizers may not be the smartest long term policy.
@@ubroc That's what the Chinese expect from the Indian government...passiveness and none-alignment so they can get the rest of Northern India...same scare tactics that the Germans applied to smaller European nations in the 1930s...good luck for India, it's a road to nowhere and they know it, but it's easier to lecture us about European colonialism 70 years ago, when part of your population is already colonized by the Chinese...you need to be India to pull this off...at the same time you seek security guarantees from a bankrupt arms supplier...I think the Finns were way smarter in the last 70 years, they were none-aligned and the Russians with way larger army didn't dare to invade them...
As an Indian, I am loving the comments section. If only people in DW had as much understanding of geopolitics then they won't be making this crappy take.😂
Germany is china of eu
what is there to love about it? obsessed with 1971, bitter against the West yet many want to emigrate to the west, severe victim complex, and can't seem to understand that Russia is not really a powerful country. That's how I read the comments, fortunately the Indian government has a more realistic attitude. Allying with Putin's Russia is like allying with a corpse. If Indians are so anti-West then don't come here, ask to emigrate to Russia and find gainful employment, good luck with that.
Absolutely
When India needed help in 1971 USSR/Ukraine was there to help. Now you buy Putin's blood oil and finance mass terror bombing. KARMA
Also, bear in mind that in 1971 the Soviets not only threatened the West about interfering with India-Pakistan-Bangladesh they also threatened China. The Soviets in many ways guaranteed India's victory in liberating Bangladesh.
In this context the Soviet union and India were friends of the Bangladesh people. The Indian Prime minister Indira Gandhi achieved the independence of Bangladesh by international diplomacy and by war .
Exactly
@@KamrulIslam-dc1zn indra did Jack s hit. It was the Sikh general Arora who achieved victory through strategy and leadership
@@kaptaan_original Pakistan was defeated , the reason the Pakistan military started a civil war in Bangladesh and the reason the Indian Air force had Mig21 war planes which were better than Pak war planes, because Indian Navy had ballistic
missiles which the Pak Navy did not have , and India had Indira Gandhi which Pakistan did not have. The Indian military also faught well and Gen. Arora and Gen. Niazi are in the history.
@@KamrulIslam-dc1zn I'll give her the credit for talking to the soviets unless it was the Foreign Minister or someone else.
Very interesting series! Thank you. I love India from Israel. My parents came to Israel from Russia. 👏
Very Happy to see you here
Love Isreal from India 🇮🇳❤️🇮🇱
Big Fan.
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All „Israelis“ came from other countries. The only natives are the Palestinians.
Long Live Israel long Live India 🙏🏼
Germany lecturing India on its internal affairs will be just fanning anti-Germany and anti-west sentiments among Indians who are already a bit pro-Russia and anti-west because of Pakistan being aided by the west in all Indo-Pak wars. Criticizing India will just push India towards the new Russia-China bloc.
I admire, you are not atleast bluffing...
West has to ensure that *INDIA shouldn't go into Russian influence...*
INDIA is going to outperform rest of the world in next decades, so from business point of view a *democratic, developed* INDIA will be better choice over *COMMUNIST CHINA*
This is nation won't be "pushed" towards any alignment easily. *If threatened existentially then may be* but the support is for Multipolar and multilateral ties among Bharatiyas. We don't support any form of imperialism at all and China represents that.
If a DW documentary hurts feelings of a people then we should not be close to such people.
exactly thiss man gets it.
@@yj9032 its not just a dw documentary . Its what your kinds do..
It's seems absurd that germany can question our sovereignity over kashmir and then expect us to help them
Fight your own war
And yet, guaranteed, when the bombs start dropping you will want everyone to help you
@@maitreya1906 but in the case of Germans they are not even in a full fledged war but there obscession for India is growing every hour
It makes sense perhaps bcoz lack of nuclear arsenal unlike India make them feel insecure
@@ayushgaur235 Germany can't go to war. Why you so obsessed with Germany. It was 1 half under America/England and France and one half under Russia.
@@deniseproxima2601 how can I as a Indian be obscessed with germany
Most indians don't even know where germany is
Germany is
geopolitically still not independent and hence will only follow what NATO says to them
And ofcourse germany can't declare war they don't have an effective army for that
I was referring to the recent remarks of German FM on kashmir
And this channel is talking more about India then Ukraine and hence it's obscessed with india
Don't ask them, or they will start another world war lol.
If everything is so connected then Europe shouldn't have given advise of "Do More Trade with China" when in 2020 China attacked & infringed Indian border.
Waah bhai tum yaha bhi
Exactly we are not advising them same are we?
Hah! So funny
@@chopperaxon6171 just like Ukraine war is funny to us
@@chopperaxon6171 , you are putting your already blood stained hands in a more bloody conflict which you started by expanding NATO.
Yes, It is very funny that now you are feeling heat of a foreign conflict.🤣🤣
Now you are advising "Don't do trade" instead of "Do more trade". Absolutely hypocrisy. 🤣😂😂🤣
India considers two countries as its good friend which is a people connection relationship.🙏🇷🇺❤️🇮🇳❤️🇮🇱🙏
3..you missed Japan
Remove ishit real replace it to Japan or German dammit
For every silly mindset, this is the best answer:
*Europe has to grow out of mindset that its problems are world's problems but the world's problems are not Europe's problems.*
- S. Jaishankar (Foreign Minister, India)
India is capable enough to resolve this situation through diplomacy and dialogue. India neither going to loose its friendship with Russia nor going to engage in any conflict with China. Europe just look After itself.
well said
perfect
If the U.s gov can buy off all the war weapons manufacturers in its country and supply them only under full gov authorisation, this could mean a safer planet for millions of people around the world..
Do not forget that Britain was the rapist as India was once a British colony
Russia is a colonial power who is murdering its way west. India is on its side helping. I am so disappointed and sad, i didn't think that India with its history will ever support a colonial monster. This is it for me
I think India's right in that when borders are violated in Asia there isn't anywhere near the same outrage as there is when it happens in Europe. If we want them to support us when things happen in Europe then we need to support them when stuff happens in Asia
I might be wrong, but in the border clashes with China, less than 100 people died (last I heard, 20 Indian soldiers?).
In Ukraine, we're in the 50k - 100k people killed, all armies & civilians included. In a few weeks, we'll maybe be past the 100k number.
See the difference a bit better?
@@elektrotehnik94 don't compare border clashes with war , did you understand that?
@@elektrotehnik94 millions of people died in 1971 and a loads of people died in kargil, no one even bothered to look at the situation. Also don't compare clashes, a border clash is a border clash and if the west doesn't even want to do even the tiniest bit of help, we will do the same by abstaining
Historically your leaders are racially biased. Thats why your region shows double standard reaction when Indian sovereignty gets violated because they werent white.
Asian people understand the underlying racist attitude of west. Thus, they are responding collectively.
You got the point . Last year USA left billions worth equipments with taliban and left the place without any discussions with india. How can india trust the US . If you expect something from india atleast listen to our concerns . Otherwise dont expect anything from india .
If India becomes assertive it is dilemma. If Europe does it is strategy.
Exactly!
As an Indian who knows Russia since USSR era, I firmly believe Russia is our most trusted partner...Long live India Russia friendship
India has little in common w Russia, one is largest democracy, other is brutal dictatorship, no social , linguistic or cultural affinity. India sends its children to US not to Russia for higher education. However indias dilemma is how to pry open from Russia defense supplies especially now that it has been proven to be poor obsolete quality…modi will be caught on its own petard…time to wake up…
Muhammad Anas Jawaid
Muhammad Anas Jawaid
1 month ago
Russia, China and Pakistan: Three brothers ❤❤
i love how indians are quick to dissect and mention any misinformation presented in these videos.Great job brothers
Well brother we are tired of everyone telling us about lies related to us.
Indians speak in half truths.
Yeah they'd rather make cash with war criminals.
@@Bob-qu4wc At least we won't ruin an entire subcontinent, divide it on religious lines, create man-made famines which kill millions, loot an estimated amount of over 45 Trillion Dollars and leave the subcontinent with a life expectancy of 32.
@@Bob-qu4wc so can we call those who destroyed Syria the criminals?
The fact that India has been denied air defence capability from the west bogels my mind. It makes me completely understand why they would seek it out from elsewhere like Russia. Just an honest oppinion.
With India's close relationship with Russia, I can only assume the west is very protective with their military technology finding its way to the wrong hands.
@@colinf.1198 Yeah, why would you help India if they will back Russia no matter what.
West always thought Pakistan as their natural ally until 9/11
Because India is an ally of Russia and not an ally of America. That's why America and the West won't give weapons to india, they are Russian spies and will give the technology and military secrets back to russia. You can never trust Indians
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according to DW everything is a dilemma for India now😂
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India has many dilemmas, especially as global system unravels, you would probably whine if it was being ignored also.
@@assertivekarma1909 your problem is not ours. Did you cared any our problems
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BEWARE OF ISRAEL..THEIR BIG GOAL TO BE WORLD RULING COUNTRY. TRUST MY WORD. WAIT AND SEE!
@@yeetian2774 🤣
India and Russia's friendship goes back a long long way and Russia has always always proved a faithful friend to India, without any demands. This alliance must never be broken.
Indian has never the dilemma. They are firm and confident in their stance. Indian foreign minister has emphasized this multiple times. Seems like DW News needs better analysts and journalists.
The sentence i loved in this video
"Don't tell us what to do"
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Europe and US already lost the game...China and India are scoring in this.
Hue hue hue😎😎
India and China are future superpower
how did Germany and Russia get so close - this is a more important question. Germany paying cash to Russia despite the war and holding off weapons for Ukraine is a much more heinous crime than India buying something.
Germany is dependent on Russia. That is why. We had 2 decades ago a real corrupt head of state who let the whole German economy let be powered and controlled by Russia. After that we had so much oil and gas infrastructure with Russia that we just let it be and hoped Putin wouldn’t do anything bad because he holds our whole energy system. Then Fukushima and we stopped all our nuclear reactors which had given us the last resort of energy which isn’t controlled by Putin. Now we hope green energy will save us but we have by far not enough of it and that is why Germany is anxious about crossing the red line. Because Putin could make our houses pretty cold in the winter if he stops the flow of gas.
Latest stat - 60% trade gain between both countries this year (most since the war started). And Germans have a nerve to call out "corruption" in Ukraine
@@sergeybebenin show me the stats. So many companies got out of Russia and we decreased the oil that much that I‘m pretty sure you are lying
@@percy3993
Andriy Melnyk last tweet with a German supplied stat sheet. Where's the lie? Explain please.
Western allies knew well in advance all the details and even started sending some light weapons to Ukraine in January time.
@@sergeybebenin Nearly every big German company is out of Russia. The only thing we trade is resources and that demand has decreased so it seems damn near impossible but ok.
We Indians love Russia more than any other foreign nation .
We never forget anyone’s help during our crisis . It’s people will also for govt to maintain good relationships with Russians . 🇮🇳❤️ 🇷🇺
Russia isn't our friend no country is...I also support Russia, but geopolitics is based on mutual interest not love..there is no love between Russia and India...u can find Abhijit Chavda's video about it also with some brutal facts.
@@Bharatiya31 still better than backstabbing USA
When India needed help in 1971 USSR/Ukraine was there to help. Now you buy Putin's blood oil and finance mass terror bombing. KARMA
Russian hate us
@@stephen6644 Russians heve the same sense of their own exceptionalism as Americans do. The Russian's I've met in America and in Russia are good people who don't hate anyone. They have a terrible government
It's Happy to see in comment section how indians are understanding their diplomacy and upholding it
Russia and India have had a very close friendship since after WW2. Its a relationship based on mutual respect and trust, not a master-slave relationship like western countries prefer
Well said
Yeah, very true
For Russia India ist just a partner if you think there can be friendships between countries then you have ZERO idea about politics
@@cemo3292 he is right
True
I remember the German delegation laughing when trump said in UN about how dependent Germany is on Russian oil and gas; maybe they should interview the delegation now and how they feel about laughing it off then😂
Now the Russians a laughing on how Germany is dependent on the USA and his 5 times more expensive LNG , The EU /Germany youst changed the dependence ,it might be worse off ,only time will tell ,but I am afraid it will loose is competitive advance to Asia ,Expensive energy for Europe and even cheeper energy to Asia as result will shift industries even more to asia , whether this is China or India or both it will weaken the German industry base . and for what ? A deeply corrupt Regime in the Ukraine that is not worth the fight.
First you doofus, Trump didn't say anything that others said. Secondly calling Putin his friend and blocking military help to Ukraine tells that maybe that Orange Monkey who is now Criminal Monkey know about plans of Putin in Ukraine? That is not very good argument.
They were just happy that they don't need to listen truth anymore...after trump exit.
@@nkumar9887 Truth about pornstars?
@@ashberka4226 nice, you’ve added absolutely nothing of substance into the topic at hand
Dear India! Make new friends but keep the old, one is Siver but the other is Gold:
"A friend in need is a friend indeed"!!!
You are from?
India doesn't have a political dilemma. Things are pretty straight on this end. Let's put this straight : *U.S along with its **_Allies_** tried to attack India and USSR defended by bringing up it's naval fleet to challenge the approaching powers. Normally this is taken as the point that strengthened Indo - Russian ties. However it is not. Indo - Russian ties is based more off Strategic and Trade importance. India has equal relations with all countries except Pakistan due to the continued cross border violations and support for terror.* At present Indo - Russia ties have become valuable due to rising energy prices from India's top most suppliers and sanctions on those from where it can be procured at a cheaper rate. It is common sense that Indo - Russia ties improve in this context similar to how the West keeps supporting China despite it's expansionist motives and actions against all of it's neighbors. The same west also supports a terror and rogue state called Pakistan at our borders and *it is the West that created Pakistan by introducing Religiopolitical Schism between members of the same nation to suit their own benefit to counter India's rise.* Hence, NO FREAKING COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO QUESTION OR COUNSEL INDIA ON IT'S CHOICE BECAUSE THEY BASICALLY FORM THE CAUSE OF THE TENSIONS AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE UKRAINE - RUSSIA CONFLICT IS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS AND NOT OUR PROBLEM LIKE YOUR MENTALLY DERANGED _LEADERS_ TRY TO PRESENT INDIA. LEARN TO RESPECT OTHERS. DW News has always been biased towards India representing it in the poorest way possible.
When India needed help in 1971 USSR/Ukraine was there to help. Now you buy Putin's blood oil and finance mass terror bombing. KARMA
How exactly have we gone rogue?
As a sovereign country, we have the right to take sides or stay neutral.
Read carefully. It is Russia who is being termed as having gone rogue.
Not fan of Moody's ultra government. Yet, India is spot on to remind western countries they are not the masters of the world.
You even have the right to bet on the wrong horse...
@@patverum9051 Except we aren't betting on either horse.
No one is saying you went rogue.
No one thinks you do not have a right to determine your own alliances or lack of them.
We are asking you to stand up against genocide but I can assure you, as an American, we are not trying to force you to do anything or thinking we are any kind of authority over you.
The “You are not the boss of me and you can’t tell me what to do” response seems a bit childish but we respect your right to say it.
We respect India and would love to develop an alliance together based on our similar (non-dictatorship) ideals but if that is not your preference then that is your prerogative.
Why should it be a dilemma for India, it's as simple as the USA dealing with the kingdom of Saudi Arabian. You choose your friends, your friends enemies are not my enemies. That's India's pragmatic approach to it's own interests as a nation. China will in many ways find a way out of the difference with India. It's not a question of how but when.
I doubt that very much. If china turns things around, it buys India time, but not much; a few years tops. Eventually, a China w/ an upper hand will throw its influence around. Unfortunately, the power balance favors China for the time being. They will not be able to hold this advantage indefinitely. In a decade, Chinese demographics simply won't be able to compete with India. We are entering an incredibly dangerous decade or two. China knows what is coming. It is incentivized to take advantage of its relative strength while it lasts. The downward slide in china may have already begun. That would not bode well for India/ China relations. Best case scenario is china holds on until it can't and power shifts quickly. I wouldn't be on the best case.
@Chippanapatchi done what?
@@williambrasky3891 you mum
@@NeerajkumarDas_337 damn. Like all of India? Gross. Nothing is a bigger turnoff than an openly horny Hindu man.
The only way China will "find a way out of differences with India" is by either destroying India, or subduing it like it subdued Sri Lanka and Pakistan. CCP is a predatory power. Stop living in fantastical delusions.
If it comes to wars Indians and russian will without a doubt stand together. Knowing the fact the US and UK both wanted to destroy India and sent their ships to attack us for their interest says volume about them.
Great series. Definitely missed some key historical moments but comments section did the job well.
I don't blame India, they are just watching out for their best interest.
India Owe Ukraine nothing
@@mascallx7586 it always has been like that lol. India always fought alone on the ground.
Infact, in 1971, US and UK sent their naval fleet to attack Indian operation in Bangladesh. US weapons left in Afghanistan are now used by terrorists in Kashmir. US is still supporting Pakistan more than India militarily.
If self interest is only truth, the weak will just lie down and die for the self interest of the powerful.
@@mascallx7586 Russia won't let that happen.
Okay if India gets smothered by the Chinese army then we look at our own interest.
It doesn't speak much about historical backstab of US and UK about supplying arms to terrorists which created a deep security concern for India by emboldening Pakistan terror support camps.Historically US was always on the opposite side of India ( terror funding in Asia, attacking west Asia to create instability, Pakistan support and everything). India is viewed as strategical partner, not an ally due to China threat. Giving Visa to Indians is nothing but for your own gain as you are getting labour at cheap cost( won't say skilled labour in general). India has its uses for west .Nothing less nothing more. India is aware of it and it will play its own tune for it doesn't have any real ally from west
True. 🤞🏻
US - EU sit on genocide of natives & stolen land + wealth from natives in India/Asia, Africa & Americas!!
True💙
What a nonsense. My neighbours are Indians. very recognized. we love the indians. Indians invest in Europe, That means they believe in the relationshio. what is this negative nonsense about the West? I hardly think that this is also the case in intolerant Russia. Greetings from Switzerland
@@westisbest3503 You may love your neighbours, and I do hope they feel the same. The fact remains, the US and UK have poked India time and again in times of India's dire need over the many military conflicts over the past 75 years. I can not speak for Switzerland, you all were probably neutral. Either way, India has gotten economically entangled with Russia in severe ways which will take time to uncouple before India can take major actions against them.
What India and some other countries understand but many won't is that there are no friends or foes in international affairs, and there are no rights and wrong sides in international affairs. We learnt it through several conflicts with our neighbors. Everyone is on their own. I hope every country understands this instead of living in la-la land where there are good and evil sides, or friends and foes.
Like one said somewhere, India uses Russia’s veto in UNSC as its own referring to many events where Russia has vetoed resolution against India; this especially happened during time when US used to be against India and more close to Pakistan; cautious of India increasing nuclear capability mainly
Simply put, the west disrespected an ancient civilization and sided with a nation born from it's dismembered limbs. So, now they should not be a crybaby.
Very conveniently omitted how the western powers during the 1971 war supported Pakistan who was committing genocide in Bangladesh and threatened India by sending warships and only USSR stood in their way in the Indian ocean.
Instead of sitting in Europe and lecturing us, you come on ground to know reality and the reason behind our stance, Man salute to your efforts 👏
I understand that point of view. I understand that India has to do what is best for India. I understand that India was a founding leader of the non-Aligned movement during the Cold War.
But betting on Russia’s aggression in Ukraine is not going to help India’s struggle against its real adversary which is China. Russia was weakening before the war and has been accelerating its decline by continuing its criminal misadventure in Ukraine militarily and economically.
I can’t blame India for buying Russian energy. Countries in Europe are still reliant on it, despite the sanctions. But India’s stance is seen as giving aid and comfort to a rogue country that has moved from adversarial to the west to a belligerent enemy. This isn’t acting as a non-aligned country and it’s not in India’s long term interest. It’s a diplomatic dead end and you can bet that Beijing will use this to their advantage in the decades to come. India is not playing the long game.
China is already increasing its influence in Central Asia, in the so called ‘stans that were part of the Soviet Union. Does India plan on facing this threat by itself? Does it really think it can foster long term cooperation by tying itself to Russia?
@@MarcosElMalo2 First of, it was Russia that helped during the border Skirmishes with India and China. Where was the EU then? Weren't borders important then?
Second, India isn't tying itself to just Russia. India has close ties with Israel, France, Australia, Japan and even the middle Eastern countries (UAE, Iran, etc). India has supplied BrahMos missiles to phillipines. India trades with middle eastern countries. So tell me, how is India by itself?
@@MarcosElMalo2 As an Indian I agree. Also it's important to note that India's economy is not in a state which can handle sanctions. I get why we are doing what we are, but a lot of people have turned this into an 'East vs West' kind of situation and ignored just how terrible all of this is. People are focusing more on things that happened centuries ago than how Russia has been acting recently, and honestly I don't know if this will end well.
The west have all the time to wait. If europe has a cold, India has pneumonia.
@@MarcosElMalo2 Well even Ukraine has voted against is in UN tho
It's common sense to hold together the closest and the most virtuous and firm ally, than a far away 'friend' who isn't consistent and dubious at times...
India should not forget what Russia has always helped India in need time ..
That doesn't mean we shall become like karna, and support Russia blindly
@@preetamraj4713 true we should stand with the righteous which clearly isnt the west lol
Once the West realizes that india will always support them against China but when it comes to Russia, West is on their own... As simple as that... We have our own interests as a sovereign nation and the West needs to respect it...
West is so eager to drive a wedge between India and Russia, India and China relationships to advance its own geopolitical interest. Russia has been playing a balance game between India and China, which all three are fully aware. China is play the balance between West and Russia too, and also India and Pakistan. So India is play this same game of balance too. Such balance games are much better than the actual war itself and unnecessary human suffering. The main reason of war in Ukraine is the loss of such balance between West (nato) and Russia.
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What is there to balance? Soviet Union is long gone. Russia need to wake up to the present. Therefore, they will hopefully lose in Ukraine. They need to be put in their place. Russia invaded Georgia, Chechnya, Ukraine. They are doomed to fail
You missed a crucial point: you need to be able to back up your claims of needing to be taken seriously & being included in the "balancing efforts", with actual hard power.
Russia clearly hasn't got the strength of hard power that it thought it had, anymore. What is worse, THEY initiated the war themselves.
Good observations though, thanks for sharing.
With Love, from Slovenia
Status quo
@@elektrotehnik94 west force Russia to initiate the war
Russia is/was not in condition to finance the war
but I guess EU oil imports indirectly helping Russia to fund this war
just don't trust what you are watching...there are many things behind the curtain
half knowledge is dengerous
Indian Diplomacy works on three points:-
1) Our Problem is our problem, not your problem.
2) Your problem is not our problem.
3) We not having problem because of your problem is also your problem.
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Muhammad Anas Jawaid
Muhammad Anas Jawaid
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Russia, China and Pakistan: Three brothers ❤❤ pakistan and india all fighting as brothers
United States and United Kingdom are two countries that have had a history of creating rifts between different political factions across the world to facilitate sales of arms. When the Ottoman Empire was defeated at the end of WW1, Britain and France partitioned the entire Middle East into countries in such a way that tensions are always kept high in the region. They often took sides of different factions and ended up selling their weapons, gaining huge profits from a war which was never theirs, and at the cost of local citizens. This is not a new concept, and Indians are well aware of the British policy of divide and rule. Similarly, US also played the same role after UK was diminished to a weaker country after WW2, in what came to be known as the Cold War. In a systematic chain of events, US replaced almost all governments in both the Americas with regimes, which were often dictatorial in nature, and committed crimes of all sorts, so that their backyard was kept silent. A similar thing has been happening in Europe ever since WW2. NATO was systematically enlarged, with newer countries joining almost every other decade, which has now led to American weapons being stationed closer and closer to Russian borders. With the current war in consideration, Americans created such a situation, wherein they pushed the European Nations into giving up their old Soviet Era arsenal to Ukraine in a bid to counter Russia, and at the same time, striking deals to supply their high-end weapons and technology at exorbitant rates to European Nations, an offer which most of the countries cannot reject. As a result of which, Germany has committed to increasing its military budget to 150 billion USD from next year, placing it at 3rd position after US and China, most of which would be spent on purchasing F-35s to replace its current arsenal, and other weapons, from none other than the United States. Even in the South East Asia region, in a bid to counter China, US and UK offered Submarines to Australia, which Australia accepted after scrapping a decade old deal with France, for an imminent Chinese threat. We are also seeing similar such proposals being made to Japan, Philippines, Taiwan and even Vietnam(there are efforts being made to improve relations between Vietnam and US; for apparent sale of weapons). Creating tensions in the world to facilitate weapons sales has been an age old tactic of US and UK governments, a move that has often ended with genocides and unrest across the world, claiming millions of innocent lives, but making American and British economies one of the leading ones.
India depends on Russia Because they have no other choice And it is a matter of self-defense , As much as India depends on Russia, Same goes for Europe Which is Mostly depended on Russia for gas And oil which is mostly overlooked. Diversifying takes time. Decision must be made on National Interests. India Has the right to Make it's own decision Without any Western interference.
Russia will sell India to China in a heart beat.
You clearly do not understand the historical ties and have completely overlooked western duplicity
You are wrong. India has always choice and enjoying.
@@andreiyevanov We have no choice in Cold war. NATO was in favour of Pakistan helping with aid and weapons and US cut off banned India for wheat export. It caused famines and Our PM urged to take cut our one meal per day. How can we forgot it when US Aircraft carrier US enterprise and UKs HMS Eagle were standing in our sea to attack our Coastal ports and Russia came with nuclear submarines to save us.
you can also say, russian weapons are low cost and budget friendly and absolutely they are the state of art
India does not fear China or US..But Russia is respected as it has always helped Infia when in need..whether it was 1971 war where it blocked US carrier which was coming to attack India or whether it always puts veto in G7 In favor of India
not to mention the help in industralisation of India
Russia is the heart of India with out Russia India cannot imagine
@@karthikr1763 well this weak RUSSIA is still giving chills to the WEST ,
@@karthikr1763 not INCLINED they are just allies
@@abhishekpandey8180 ye zyada hogya bhai lmao
Love to Russia from India 🇷🇺🇮🇳
Can the West be trusted ?
- No.
That's how long the "dilemma" lasted in New Delhi.
i think the west had lost its chances over the last 70 years, when it did not help India, be it in food crisis, IMF loans ( where it asked India to deposit Indian Gold in London)or even in !971 war with Pakistan, when the 7th Fleet of the USA wanted to attack India, to save its own skin. No one in Europe even said a word when the Chinese attacked The Galwan heights two years ago. Now since, 24th February, after the Ukraine war, Europe has been in a problem, it expects India to cut off all its ties and work with the west against an old friend. I think India should not agree again to a new COLONIAL idea of the USA and the EU countries. Narendra Modi is right in keeping its policies independent of the policies pushed on us. The West should understand India is 130 million peoples economy, and we are a formidable power, which the west will Need India for its own economy, a weaker Russia may not be good for India, but to date, the west should think more rationally and give India more breathing space in the world of Geo politics
India is 1.3+ Billion people; NOT 130 million ;))
@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 😀😀 he is same as Illiterate PM modi
Don go that far , what they do to tackle Pakistan cradle of terrorist, they com once in while like Diwali Pongal holiday attack Mumbai, kashmiri, patankot,.......
That's not enough thy train and export all over the world, still west wanna use it for geo political advantage.
It's more like when v r hit it's like 🍅 sauce and blood when they r hit .
Fine. As long as that is still your stance when you lose men and land to a rampant China and start crying for help from other countries. Go your own way
@@chopperaxon6171 India is capable of handling itself.
The obsession is real when germans have to make a series to show how Russia isn't worth India's time.
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@@DarxKies yeah let us just put clown emoji, I will look cool.
best comment
If it was Germany, it might still be understandable but this sounds like His master's voice - The USA!!
Dang coment
A relationship which is so strong that they had to create series on this.
I’m extremely thankful for DW’s free online content.
Remember, the word "free" has always had its own implications like bias.
"Europe has to grow out of mindset that its problems are world's problems,but world's problems aren't Europe's problems"
The world is linked by global trade. The war in any country is everyone's problem.
@@AORD72 yes, then tell that to Western leaders who put sanctions without consulting others or taking into consideration its impact on countries that are dependent on Russian imports either because of lower prices or diplomatic ties. There are US sanctions even on Venezuelan Oil, Iranian Oil. How do you expect other nations to meet their oil needs?
@@essee3984 India was asked by the US not to buy MORE oil.. but it went ahead and bought 17x more than normal. US also warned India not to buy missile systems.. but India bought it anyway.
At the least India is a bad ally for the US and west and is asking for secondary sanctions. India has been buying 20% of Russia's arms.. so does that mean India's responsible for 20% of the civilian casualties in Ukraine? That sounds about right to me.
@@lettucesalad3560 3rd most powerful army neuclear power contry 3rd largest army budget. we can protect our country
@@mohitnagar581 If India is so powerful, why does it need Russia's weapons? The issue is, India cannot be in AUKUS alliance awhile at the same time fully supporting Russia.. It has to make a decision.. because the nonsense excuses like "both sides need to stop the violence in Ukraine" is a total joke. Does India support the UN, human rights, global trade, democracy and freedoms or is it pushing toward authoritarianism, oppression. There are pros and cons, but you can't have it both ways.
Russia, India, and China are part of BRICS. Bilateral relations among BRICS states are conducted mainly based on non-interference, equality, and mutual benefit. The existence of the BRICS grouping does not signify a formal or informal alliance; there are multiple economic, territorial, and political disputes among the five governments.
But India always tell they need new weapons. But I don't think the west want to invade India.
Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa (BRICS)
Well said and I can assure India and China are not friends and we are in sync with West. It's just that we have long history with russia and our advanced weapons come from there. Sitting here in Delhi almost all Indians now know that china is the biggest enemy
Well that failed completely for 2 of the 3 countries, didn't it. Amazing how moaners about the west still like to take their money though 🤔
Brics is a joke
He never meant "don't lecture us"...he meant don't selectively and selfishly only take a stance for things you care about. It's about the EU ignoring the trouble caused by the likes of China and Pakistan to other Asian countries.
A very very well put together insightful documentary 👏
14:40
As an Indian, I can't believe that a prominent leader of Congress party who are considered loyalists towards the Russians are saying this kind of stuff and condemning the actions of ruling party which is considered the most pro west party in whole of India.
Yes BJP (PM Modi's party) is the most pro west party in whole of India, ofcourse comparatively.
always not enough lol unless you are the puppy
Coz they're not in power and want to always degrade current gov.
The Congress has two wings, one has Gandhi and Russia loyalists, the other has people like Shashi Tharoor.
Isn't he right tho? Your predecessors supported Russia doesn't mean you will also have to. I think tharoor raises a fair skepticism about Russia not being able of much help to India in near future.
I mean every party is supporting bjp stance only shahsi tharoor and subramniam swamy condem war
USA kept kashmir issue open by pumping air in Pakistan. USA can help him self by helping INDIA. two big good democracy is common and natural partner but its USA need to understand
So USA was partnering with an autocracy and a military dictatorship against a democratic India??
Who still thinks that US-EU respect democracies & hate autocracies??!!
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Слава Советской Родине, Слава России
Партия Путина, Сила индийцев, русских и простых людей
слава России и СССР
All of a sudden love for india us because of the huge market, our computer software coders and our economic potential. Russia is indias time tested friend
I think it's in most peoples best interest to keep India stable and not let China take their territory.
True. India decides the future of humanity. An unstable India will turn it into a authoritarian system like China and a developed and stable India will strengthen democracies across the world.
Yeah China is going to be making some big moves soon. They are already making tons of small moves, like down on Americas border with Mexico. The Chinese are openly working with the Cartels and supplying them with fentanyl and getting involved with Cartel politics... I think their next move may be Taiwan and seeing how far they can push Taiwan without getting America and NATO involved.
Russia is taking territory in Ukraine so why not China taking Indian territory and maybe not everyone will condem it
@@myspace1876 agree. India is in a midpoint atm. With respect and support from the west they will develop into a strong reliable friend. If they are left twisting in the geopolitical wind India could run into issues with China and Pakistan who i doubt would sit out a chance to do some dammage or grab some land. They unfortunately could become a satalite of Russia if they rely on them too much. It's best for everyone to have a strong stable independent India as long as maintaining current boreders is their thing. That should be supported and respected.
@@ptownzfinest12345 because china will become too powerful with population of 3 billion if it captures India it will be 3 billion vs 700 million in west no match
India and Russia shall always stand together.🇮🇳💖🇷🇺.
Russian help India in 1971,1999 etc Russia is a time tested friends
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India will not loose Russia nor start a war with China. Indians are good diplomats and through good diplomacy war will be avoided. This is no time for WAR which EU and US doing is best to ignite.
All the best Russia… go ahead… INDIA with you as best friend❤❤❤🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
European media is having a hard time accepting EU has failed miserably and now venting the frustration on India. Lmao
The EU is absolutely fine. Thank you very much! Russia and Ukraine failed.
If India doesn’t want to reassess what the new geopolitical order means for itself, fine. Any problems stemming from this ignorance, won’t be European problems either.
@@jansix4287 As an Indian, we want EU to be perfectly fine. People living happily in their homes, at peace, what else can we ask for. At the same time, we don't want oil prices rising back home, every time someone throws tantrums at some corner of the World.
We would be perfectly happy to use Venezuelan or Iranian oil instead of Russian oil. In fact, that would be easier for us to transport. So, those who are concerned about disruption of World(meaning Europe) order and economies, should not block oil from Venezuela or Iran from coming to the market, because doing that, disrupts our economy.
If that can't happen, we will decide what's best for us and be rest assured, we know what ramification means. We got that part covered.
@@bd-dq9ml I’m very aware that there aren’t enough energy exporting democracies to only buy from them. Norway can’t supply all of Europe. Please feel free to pick your least problematic trading partners!
Lol, what failed? 🤣
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Europe never indulged itself in others problems anyway
But they want everyone to take part when something happens to them..
So there's nothing new ..
You won't be surprising us
Can you think about a country which put sanction on wheat export to India at a time when Indian population was in extreme poverty? It was in 1960s; now India is the largest producer of wheat, coincidence or sheer willpower? It's upto you .
It's karma😏😏
And who sanctioned wheat export to India in the 1960s? I'm genuinely curious, because I didn't find anything on the internet. 🧐
@@porkysharma8423 The US
@@porkysharma8423 USA put it.
My grandfather said that india was told to import wheat that were fed to pig's in USA , to feed the people.
Of course there aren't any mention of that.
Like the war in 1971, for so many years nobody mentioned it.
@@in-human1698 Wow. That is humiliating, but I won’t be surprised if the U… S…. had done something this kind of evil. I remember just this year alone, the U…. S…. was caught giving away (through US aid) wheat seeds infected with pests to destroy the Syrian crop fields on which they were supposed to planted on and damage their soil along the way. How evil and shameless can this country be? 🤬
11:51 It's not entirely about business and military benefits that India is looking in Russia, it's about loyalty to each other and maintaining the friendship that was built decades ago by our ancestors. India firmly stood against war and Modi called to Putin multiple times and asked him to avoid the war.
You forgot to mention how Russia scared off US and UK warships in 1971, US and UK supporting Pakistan knowing that Pakistan was aggressor.
Cool. India knows how to handle the situation very well. I think India will make this situation as an opportunity .
It Should why not
@@bittoochatterjee2661 yah why not🇮🇳
The truth is that Ukraine pushed West into situtation in which almost entire planet is getting split and surprisingly non-Western world is not so supportive of Western opportunism in Ukraine. Arabs remember Arabic spring. China remembers Taiwan. India remembers legacy of its conflict with Pakistan. Pretty much all non-Western centers of powers choose non-Western sides due to strategic challenges created by the West.
This is true 😂😂😂😘west going and asking help after the previously attacked destroyed non western countries n getting rejected is funny
Jaishankar is the best person to answer all these questions on the behalf of Asia 🙏
It’s that mentality- “My enemy must be your enemy”
There is no dilema for India, they will stick to the Realpolitics and will negotiate with everyone that benefits their status/power.
Thus alienating European governments.
but you are the biggest democracy in the world - and you are failing at that. Cities being wiped out while russian imperialism grow, and you are clapping and pretending it doesnt affect you - it does, as you are not able to stand clearly against war aggression. Its not just about ukraine (1956 Hungary, 1968 Czechoslovakia, 1980's afganistan, 2008 Georgia.....) I must admit Pakistan is much better and wiser then india - India is lost. And if you think Russia will ever threat you like a partner - you are silly.
Self reliance through Indigenization of defense equipment is the only way forward for India.
Note: West has never been a reliable partner for India. In previous war with Pakistan, western block always supported our adversaries. Soviet union on the other hand, went for forward with sending nuclear submarines to stop American carrier battle group.
So what is the best indigenous piece of military equipment you ever built? Arjuna's bow? I fail to recall any piece of Indian equipment that has impressed the world.
@Respected Sir, I knew it. The word was INDiGENOUS. That is a remake of a Russian missile built together with a Russian company. Sweden makes indigenous missiles. Why can't you?
@@stream2watch don't need lecture from you specially from West
@@stream2watch shaurya asat Shakti ngmbt , lch , rudra wsi , prahaar , pralay qrsam , xr Sam , vlrsam , Astra , varunastra , arihant , arighat , s4 ,sr star , s5 ssbn , vikrant , drdo whap , drdo ficv , westerns are too ignorant we are good development of systems come here checkout our weapons
@@stream2watch look at this
great commentary! well said!
There is no change of mind in India, we love Russians. Glory to Russia 🇷🇺 and India 🇮🇳
India is not in any geopolitical dilemma. Don't put your words into our mouth. US led europe wants to distance us from Russia. But we will forever remain friends with Russia. Long live 🇷🇺🇮🇳.
RUIN is right
US (or at least many of us) don’t want India to distance from Russia. We want you to use your closeness to Russia to talk sense into them and help restore peace so that we can all be closer friends again.
Also when India points out hypocrisy in the West, we are listening and reflecting on the painful but constructive criticism. We know we should be better too.
Americans of this generation are so tired of a world at war. A lot of us grew up after the 9/11 terrorist attacks and have never seen any long time when our nation wasn’t at war.
We’re trying to get to peace, even if it means sacrificing some of our goals. For example, America has given up on trying to turn Afghanistan into a modern democracy by force, and we’ve realized that force doesn’t work to spread our ideologies. We can’t spread peace via violence.
The American people are strong but we don’t want to be bullies. We don’t want to police the world. We want international law organizations to step up to keep peace and set just rules for how nations should treat each other. We want to give our strength to support a system with democratically shared control and representation from all peaceful nations.
Sadly, as soon as we start trying to be more peaceful, other countries like Russia start to see our love of peace as weakness. When they think we’re weak, they start looking for chances to attack and force us back into war. We will defend/support weaker nations because it is a moral obligation, but we are not warmongering people and we’re sick of violence.
Thrn stop migrating to Europe and go to Russia . Nowonder Pakistan is fighting with u . U guys are crazy
@@_Painted Have you watched videos of Prof. John Mearsheimer? What are your views on that?
@@Raptor501st yup russia, india and china coalation would definetly ruin the west but sadly, it won't happen.
In Kargil war, USA backed Pakistan and it was the Soviet Union that came to the rescue of India. Russia sent its submarines to stop USA's ships. Russia is India's biggest ally. We Indians love Russia. God bless Russia! We will pick the side of Russia all the time.
You are a Donkey. During Kargil USA Backed India . Gadhe ke Aulad . Kaun se Chawl me reahta hai tu
Supporting a country that doesn't exist any more
bro that wasnt kargil war💀💀
Yea then run for us or western visas 😅😅😅
@@gurjotss98 How do you know that he would?
INDIA RUSSIA RELATIONSHIP IS IN VERY DIFFERENT LEVEL ,
TRUST ,LOVE ,RESPECT , TRUE FRIEND, SECOND HOME ETC....
VERY DEEP RELATION
Don't tell us what to do... 💪🇮🇳
A lot of westerns here sounding like they're good people or people with values. As for the friendship with India and renewed run towards Africa it is only to counter China and Russia and not out of mutual respect. This is not a relationship that should he considered as reliable.
I agree as a "westerner" I don't want anything to do with China, Russia, India or Africa! We should live our life to depart from you as much a possible and only trade interact with ourselves! Also, if you aren't from west, you shouldn't be on UA-cam!
@@anti-emo4721 As an "Indian" with lots of "Western" friends I quite agree and disagree with you. The world is not that simple and @Ty Me is completely wrong here. I don't see any "Indian" CEO of Russian or Chinese companies. Google, Twitter, Microsoft, and Oracle all are headed by "Indians" who are well integrated into the "Western" world. It is not "Only" to counter China and Russia, which execute their own citizens, but also to be a flag bearer of Democracy and shared values with the west.
@@mayankahuja1970 Well said. If you hadn't said it I would have said the same thing, though not as well. I'm quite sure that the vast majority of Indian ex-patriots live in the US, and they have done very well here. I suppose a few Indians go to live in Russia, but I don't envy them. America can be criticized for many things - no powerful country is 'pure' - but America genuinely is "a flag bearer of Democracy", as you put it, and of freedom. That's the central reason why the US and Europe support Ukraine. There are geostrategic reasons also, but centrally it is for moral reasons.
@@DorianLS I totally agree. In today's world order democratic countries like US should be leading the world. Else we won't be having any world to begin with.
@Molt Exactly, should we abandon our karma for a so called "Friend". I too have come across such people. Also they are factually incorrect it was USSR which helped, not Russia and Ukraine was a part of USSR. Anyways now the times have changed and we need more democracies less autocracies.
Well many European countries thinks its all about weapons but for us its about having and keeping a loyal friend.
& oil
Not only that, but the Americans are not intimidating India and call India "allies" simply because they want to control China. That's no friendly relationship and it cannot be counted on.
Good work India.
You guys are very good at turning one country against the other
as long as US staged wars are not addressed or called out by the international community equally after the dissolution of USSR, the current west has no grounds to talk about morality in depth.
Paradoxically India is in a geo-political "sweet spot." Certainly not geo-political squeeze. It is playing and benefitting from both sides and growing economically and militarily while the US and the Collective West are weakening because they are paying the price for the Ukraine conflict together with Russia. It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to figure out why the US is so tolerant towards India for breaking its sanctions blatantly? India is the cog in the wheel of the US Indo-Pacific Strategy. As to why India does not take a side with the US, my view is that India does not trust the US if history is any guide whereas Russia has always been proven to be a reliable ally. Russia's relationship with China is only secondary to India.
the US and the "collective west" have been "weakening" for decades, yet, the world is increasingly growing dependent on western technologies, IP and know-how
russia has been proven to be so "reliable" that india started buying equipment from and forming partnership with the "untrustworthy" US.
the fact is, all these countries economies are build on western systems, using western IP, technologies and know-how. this has made them exponentially dependent on the west. the narrative about the west declining is a fantasy (and a clickbait) and you are welcome to live in that fantasy. but every now and then maybe just peek into the real world and realize how much of your life and livelihood revolves around and is increasingly dependent on western inventions and innovations.
(and no, there's no chinese technology)
It Isn't the case my friend India is loosing just because of useless American sanctions for example China is buying cheap Iranian crude where as India still dependent on US crashed oil economy by restricting Iranian, venezuela as well as American oil to the market.
For developing economies like India oil price matters a lot, inflation is at record high share markets are crashing around the world just because of wrong decision taken by Biden administration.
India is a balance when you calculate all the geo politic equations . If we move to any side it will change the world. And you sont have any other counter balance .
Well said vro, Putin's Russia knows that India is not just another country its more like a family 🙏🏼
So interesting, am hooked
India loves and respect all country,that is our culture,world is one family,
India 1 ox the most racist counties in the world. Try to look it up on UA-cam.
India's main problem is when China and Pakistan invaded India, the same West did not boycotts China or Pakistan. Also, West continuously needled India by many separatist or terrorist groups in India..... At the same time India finds West and it's democracy better and enjoys economic relations with the West.
india needled by terrorists funded by the west? source?
Not only west supported Pakistan in that era but Russia stood by Indian side
at the same time india could ask russia to invade northwest and northeast china. xinjiang and northeast china used to be ruled by russia.
Why West should boycott someone? While India professes pragmatism so the West professes pragmatism - making money, sending concerns, calls for peace and negotiations. Both are doing their best - nothing.
India says that they are driven by pragmatism and not ideology. They say that the Wests problems are not their problems so why would their problems be the Wests problems?
Two lines From indian foreign Minister Jai shankar sums it up Entire 🇮🇳 india position in recent Globesec meeting in Slovakia :
1)" Europe must stop to think their problem is world problem,and world problem is not their problem"
2)"India is not sitting on fence between Russia /China and USA,India is standing on his ground for what that is best for 🇮🇳, we are not here to pick allies",you are speaking about India position wrt to Russia and China on Ukraine issue...common, India and China issue is more old than anything...there are more issues outside Europe,and Europe must know it
@@abijitsm9972 that’s debatable two different people/ leaders with different plans ….this war could’ve still happened( Russia/Putin really want all of Ukraine)
He says.... while in Slovakia = Europe.
The irony is off the scale.
India might not be here to pick allies, but that never really worked for anybody in the long run. ^^
Also, saying Europe is not internationally proactive might be popular in India & true in the past, but not in the last decade.
@@elektrotehnik94 it worked for us(Indians) in past cold war. We will remain neutral in this new cold war with a good relationship with USA against china
@@elektrotehnik94 It worked for switzerland.
Ever since the Russia Ukraine war started, leaving aside all the important things, EU is hellbent on forcing India to chose a side no matter what the consequences are. 😂
Important message from the video and bottomline is "Don't tell us what to do" !
Let me summarize it : "we in the West are fooling ourselves and losing the proxy war, so let's speculate about India/Russia relationship to make ourselves relevant"
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Well said
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This is a good program. I would suggest that DW also do a similar program on how Germany is so cozy with China, also for the sake of pragmatism, i.e., money, while willfully ignoring the brutal violations of human rights, genocide, and countless sins in China.
Terra X already did that
FUTURE SPOILER:
ISRAEL IS BEHIND THIS MESS! THEY PLANNED THIS WAR BETWEEN RUSSIA & UKRAINE..AS THEY WANT WEST AND EAST DESTROYED BY RUSSIA NUCLEAR!!..
BEWARE OF ISRAEL..THEIR BIG GOAL TO BE WORLD RULING COUNTRY. TRUST MY WORD. WAIT AND SEE!
Are you a Chinese?
@@YashSharma-zp8yu No, fortunately I am not.
So where is that genocide actually happening...!!??
Russia and India has a friendship of return-investment. Both parties enjoy each other's strong points. I hope this relationship will always go on.
R - reliance
I - Integrity
U - untrustworthy
Dammm u guys did some good research, Kudos for the whole team.
Lol,
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Firstly India is in its ground position. There is no dilemma going on. India has its own key intrest and no body needs to lecture us
If a nation tries to wipe out a other nation and you help the aggressor you shouldn’t be surprised to be lectured
@@percy3993 th real help for russians is Europeans. Still Europeans buying billions of euros of gas ⛽. First do what you preach.
@@percy3993 you are sick 🤢 need to lession
You just fools .
@@hariprasathragupathy6410 we already did. We decrease massively.
As an American I actually have a TON of Indian coworkers. Both Indian-Americans AND Indians in my company's Bangalore and Mangalore offices. If China invaded India I know virtually all Americans would be outraged and would fully back India.
Thanks we support US too❤️
@Isabel Bustamante there are 1.4 billion indians ........ i bet you , you'll find *america loving indians* more than the population of USA itself , then there also few million peoples who hate "america claiming to be world police , then acting hypocritically & US-centric "
@@darkknight2414 he is talking about business loss and America only see this as a whole so his opinion doesn't count as china has more business ties with USA.🙏🏼
@@nroeds No. You clearly do not know how Americans view Freedom as what matters above all.
Yes, even above Oil. ^^
The actually did attack us last year unprovoked
They killed a few of us and we killed a few of them.
What about Germany's US Vasal state Dilemma