@@ks_ethaydius6975plus ben 10 turns into the peak version of whatever species he becomes. since viltrumites practically speaking have no peak ben 10 could become a viltrumite and destroy
@@christianhenry4173very true, although I kinda like the alien transformations instead of just getting the aliens abilities, but some people will disagree and say it’s cooler then turning into the alien.
Ben has literally died and the Omnitrix just transformed him into an unharmed Alien form after the fact. So even if Omni-man *did* blitz Ben before the Omnitrix could transform him it wouldn't win him the fight. Omni-man's only win condition is immediately recognizing the Omnitrix as the real threat and destroying it before it can react which I doubt he's capable of.
And funny enough, even if he tried to destroy or crush the omnitrix, it has a self defense mechanism and releases an energy blast to anything trying to damage it
@@DoomSlayer-gj8qb it also can just tank a baseline universal level weapon, multiple galaxy busting attacks in a row, and an existence erasing weapon.
@@DoomSlayer-gj8qb Even funnier enough, the Omnitrix was stopped in time by Maltruant. Though Psychobos made the watches work again, he had nothing to make it move again since the watch was affected by a time beam and was not malfunctioning, so theoretically the watch works at 0 seconds
Even removing alien x... we still have clockwork, waybig, xlr8, jetray, Feedback, diamondhead, cromastone, pesky dust, Atomix... and a some of other aliens that could rival and overpower omniman... also omniman CAN'T kill ben, no matter how much he tries, because of the lifeguard failsafe.
Ghostfreak and Echo echo alone would be quite a big challenge for viltrumites due to them not having any defenses against mind and sound attacks Ben could scan new aliens like Rognarrs, Allen,etc and evolved them thanks to his ultimate form. Also with enough time he could use Grey Matter to create a stronger version of the gun used by Space Racer which was able to easily kill viltrumites.
Bens reaction speed is FTL cause he literally reacted to Big Bang at point blank range and cause of Omnitrixes failsafe his durability should be Universal+ at least. All Ben needs to do is to weaken Omniman with aforementioned Gutrot and Echo Echo than fry the Omni-ass with Heatblast or deatomize Omniman with Atomix. Hell, Ben can simply scan Omniman and become a Viltrumite just as strong if not stronger than Nolan, game over
The Omnitrix can scan any DNA and make ben one, but Not just any Viltrimite the Omnitrix creates a prime body of the races it makes. Meaning Ben would be on par if not more powerful then even Thragg.
Wait is this even a debate? Look I’ve read every single comic book appearance of Omni man, from the main line to the crossovers, and there is absolutely no fucking way Omni man is beating Ben 10, never gonna happen.
Ben 10K also has two omnitrixs, so he can transform into hybrid aliens like Blitzwolf + Accelerate => Blitzcelerate with Black Canary's high pitch scream and super speed like Red Rush on foot.
Ben 10k could just scan Omni man and become Viltrimite. If we are using Ultimate Ben 10k he could make a Ultimate Viltrimite. If we are using Omniverse Ben 10k then he can combine Viltrimite DNA and any of his powerful aliens like Waybig or Alien X to create an absolutely broken fusion.
I have to assume that on some level most people assume that power and quality are intrinsically linked. So when someone they don't know much about, or only know a little about is brought up as an opponent, the answer is their favourite instead of an honest look. I get it on some level, you always want the guy you like to win, it's that feeling that any battle series is based on, but it's not an excuse for ignorance; people should either recognize what their favourite is stacked up against or admit they don't know.
I love how you showed he wouldn't need one of his most op abilities. If he wanted to he can just scan omniman and fight him. Now you got full powered viltrimites going at it
Great video, i agree with most things you said. Omni-Man is getting cooked by Ben 10 for sure, without needing Alien X. Even if Omni-Man can speedblitz most of Ben's alien, the Omnitrix' AI will react in time and give ben the right alien to counter the incoming attack just one thing, at 4:33 you said Multruant (Evil chronosapian) instead of Malware (evil Galvanic Mechamorph)
Omni Man can speedblitz Ben 10? Bro, only idiot's would say that, Ben has the Omnitrix for an automatic self defense mechanism, He has Jet ray whose either as fast or faster than Omni Man, and he has Atomix, GravAttack, Waybig, AND Clockwork and Alien X, ESPECIALLY clockwork and Alien x, Omnipotence and Absolute Time Powers. Only idiots would claim Omni man standing a chance against Ben 10.
@@nonameneeded2943Nolan ages so clockwork (who has infinite speed), gravattack who can crush him into a black hole, echo echo since vultramites are weak to sound, gutrot who is a walking chemical weapon, ghost freak no vultramite can deal with since they can't hit him, way big would diff him not just by size but by strength, durability, and speed, big chill can freeze people from thr inside and shatter them, amphibian can fry all of omnimans neurons, not to mention human ben can dodge, hit, and react to one of XLR8s species, who may I remind you, move so fast time appears slowed, and ben is casually doing that, this keeps going, omniman has never been in a more one sided fight.
Yeah especially when you consider that the Omnitrix has a little over a million dna samples but only about 500 or so are viable top tier“fighters”. We started to see it more in Omniverse where Ben would unlock really underwhelming aliens.
@@ShinyNumber1It makes sense. Obviously not every alien would be combat effective, especially since combat wasn't what the Omnitrix was made for, it's was made for understanding.
like omniman couldnt even speed blitz ben, cuz ben tanked the big bang, if youre not faster or more powerful than the big bang you can never speedblitz ben
I fully agree that Ben Ten can beat Omni-man but Gutrot and most of the other aliens mentioned are going to be speed blitzed pretty easily Ben has aliens that could maybe counter speed blitz like Jetray and XLR8. I'm also not sure O the speed scaling cuz also atomic might also be speed blitzed as well he might be more powerful not sure but he is definitely slower and way big and Alien X are the only ones I see able to beat Mono-man
not really, most if not all of Ben's aliens can and have reacted or fought something around the same level as kinecelerarents (XLR8s species) who can move at speeds that make time appears to stop, they're doing this casually, sure ben rarely wins in movement but in combat and reaction he is far better, and if you think Nolan is still faster than Ben's reaction and combat speed, ben can react to lasers and light beams in what amounts to open space in human form while training, if you want to get specific in ben 10 classic max blocked shots from laser cannons individually after they were fired, so even back in classic its been like this, you could argue the lasers aren't light, but then the kinecelarents are still much faster, and the omnitrix can react faster then Nolan can do anything.
So there is only one in-correction from this video i have seen at 11:42, ben could only clone himself with echo echo then transforming to human using the ultimatrix, because it was made by albedo it was inferior, and incomplete since the aliens came to life on some occassions like the ultimates, so ben 10,000 would not be able to do this at all since its something azmuth fixed also the fact the all the cloned bens would not agree to things with their egotistical personality
"doesn't have the killer intent" Yeah no if we're taking that screenshot as that version of Ben 10 000 like classic Ben 10 000 this is the same man who was constantly in alien form patroling all around the world taking all the villains out he sees you really think he wouldn't just fucking merk Omni man
Ummmmm omni man is an alien... the omnitrix can absorb the his DNA then transform... then theres the basic Alien X Ben has already convinced both halves to let him full control so he could just take away omnimans powers
@@legendarygrimlock4471 yeah He can do that in the game Ben 10 omniverse 1, and it's an area attack, if Omni-man gets near Ben, then Wildmutt can Stun him using his Sonic attack, keep in mind that wildmutt can also shoot projectiles from his fur, and they're really sharp
He is basicaly Superman but evil ,really evil not just the dosent speak with batman type But compare with someone like Ben who has so much versatility and world building behind its low
The only omnitrix that we saw with a failsafe that not only prevented Ben's death in human form, let alone catch the big bang was the official omnitrix and we never saw a Ben 10k wielding the official omnitrix, so we can't say that Ben 10k would just have it. The only other omnitrix to prevent Ben's death was the ultimatrix however Ben had to be in alien form for it to work, and again we never saw a Ben 10k with the ultimatrix. The closest we got was Ultimate Ben which had the ultimate feature but it was its own trix. Saying that any Ben 10k has the failsafes that the ultimatrix or official omnitrix has is just headcanon so...
In "Secrets" (Original Ben 10 serie's season 1 final) in Ben and Vilgax's first fight, when Vilgax turned Ben from Stinkfly back into a human and tried to remove Omnitrix with his own hands, omnitrix created a green energy wave that knocked Vilgax away. This green energy was also seen in Ghostfreaked Out when Zs'Skayr was trying to posses Ben, clearly preventing Zs'Skayr from possesing Ben and in the same scene, omnitrix was in recharge mode but when Zs'Skayr tried to posses Ben, it suddenly charged up and turned Ben into gray matter. These two examples clearly prove that prototype omnitrix has failsafes.
@@Komo1680 that's not protecting Ben's life, it's preventing the omnitrix from being messed with. Also we saw when Zs Skayr tried to possess Ben when he was FourArms and the omnitrix didn't step in, but Zs Skayr couldn't possess him then anyways. However we saw Zs Skayr possess Ben in human form in Ghost Town and there was no such interference then either. Also I never said that the official omnitrix was the only omnitrix that had failsafes, I said that it was the only omnitrix that prevented Ben from dying.
@hyprwhrl978 there's a whole thread In quora showcasing all the failsafes types, you can check it out, the prototype had lotta failsafes such as the death failsafe as seen In vengeance of vilgax
Ben 10 would absolutely slam Omniman as much as I'd hate to admit it
When you can reforge thr Universe you can beat an invincible
@@ks_ethaydius6975plus ben 10 turns into the peak version of whatever species he becomes. since viltrumites practically speaking have no peak ben 10 could become a viltrumite and destroy
Why would you hate to admit it like it’s pretty obvious
Ultimate Ben 10000 would show Omni he's not the only who can fly and teleport, use freeze breath, have super strength, super speed effortlessly
@@christianhenry4173very true, although I kinda like the alien transformations instead of just getting the aliens abilities, but some people will disagree and say it’s cooler then turning into the alien.
Omni Man arrives on earth
Ben: Let me solo him.
Ben has literally died and the Omnitrix just transformed him into an unharmed Alien form after the fact. So even if Omni-man *did* blitz Ben before the Omnitrix could transform him it wouldn't win him the fight.
Omni-man's only win condition is immediately recognizing the Omnitrix as the real threat and destroying it before it can react which I doubt he's capable of.
And funny enough, even if he tried to destroy or crush the omnitrix, it has a self defense mechanism and releases an energy blast to anything trying to damage it
@@bryantmonge1972also more funny the omnitrix has survived a universe destroying bomb so yeah Omni-man isn’t doing jack
@@DoomSlayer-gj8qb it also can just tank a baseline universal level weapon, multiple galaxy busting attacks in a row, and an existence erasing weapon.
@@DoomSlayer-gj8qb Even funnier enough, the Omnitrix was stopped in time by Maltruant. Though Psychobos made the watches work again, he had nothing to make it move again since the watch was affected by a time beam and was not malfunctioning, so theoretically the watch works at 0 seconds
@@KazumaVLEven more funnier enough that would mean Ben couldn’t be speed blitz since the watch reaction time is greater then the speed of Omniman.
*Omni Man fans say he can blitz Ben 10*
Omnitrix: “An I took that personally”
Even removing alien x... we still have clockwork, waybig, xlr8, jetray, Feedback, diamondhead, cromastone, pesky dust, Atomix... and a some of other aliens that could rival and overpower omniman... also omniman CAN'T kill ben, no matter how much he tries, because of the lifeguard failsafe.
Ghostfreak and Echo echo alone would be quite a big challenge for viltrumites due to them not having any defenses against mind and sound attacks
Ben could scan new aliens like Rognarrs, Allen,etc and evolved them thanks to his ultimate form. Also with enough time he could use Grey Matter to create a stronger version of the gun used by Space Racer which was able to easily kill viltrumites.
Bens reaction speed is FTL cause he literally reacted to Big Bang at point blank range and cause of Omnitrixes failsafe his durability should be Universal+ at least. All Ben needs to do is to weaken Omniman with aforementioned Gutrot and Echo Echo than fry the Omni-ass with Heatblast or deatomize Omniman with Atomix. Hell, Ben can simply scan Omniman and become a Viltrumite just as strong if not stronger than Nolan, game over
Not just that, but 16 year old Ben in human form has reacted to and dodged lasers in combat so his reaction speed was already FTL
Poor viltrumites 😢 those things won’t last long against a godly human .
The Omnitrix can scan any DNA and make ben one, but Not just any Viltrimite the Omnitrix creates a prime body of the races it makes. Meaning Ben would be on par if not more powerful then even Thragg.
Wait is this even a debate? Look I’ve read every single comic book appearance of Omni man, from the main line to the crossovers, and there is absolutely no fucking way Omni man is beating Ben 10, never gonna happen.
Ben 10K also has two omnitrixs, so he can transform into hybrid aliens like Blitzwolf + Accelerate => Blitzcelerate with Black Canary's high pitch scream and super speed like Red Rush on foot.
Ben: Scans Omniman, becomes basically Thragg but better.
Exactly what i was thinking 😂.
8:13 Buzzshocks's the 3rd one who has sound based powers plus he can clone like Echo Echo if he has enough electricity.
Wait buzzshock has sound based too ??
@@legendarygrimlock4471Ben never used Buzzshocks's sonic screams or cloning but the Megawatts did in Classic and I think once in Omniverse.
Ben 10k could just scan Omni man and become Viltrimite.
If we are using Ultimate Ben 10k he could make a Ultimate Viltrimite.
If we are using Omniverse Ben 10k then he can combine Viltrimite DNA and any of his powerful aliens like Waybig or Alien X to create an absolutely broken fusion.
Lol ppl really going to say 1 alien (omni man) is going to win against the potential 1,000,912 aliens stored in the omnitrix 😂
Preach dude people seriously don't understand how powerful Ben 10 is
My favorite line if from ultimate big chill when he says this is fire so cold is burns such i awsome line
I have to assume that on some level most people assume that power and quality are intrinsically linked. So when someone they don't know much about, or only know a little about is brought up as an opponent, the answer is their favourite instead of an honest look. I get it on some level, you always want the guy you like to win, it's that feeling that any battle series is based on, but it's not an excuse for ignorance; people should either recognize what their favourite is stacked up against or admit they don't know.
True.
Omniman is an alien. The omnitrix would turn ben into a prime version of his race and ben would proceed to wreck him
Omni-Man is powerful, but fully powered Ben wrecks him.
The only alien Ben needs is echo echo because omnimans weakness is his ears
8:13 Technical also Buzzshock. (The Megawatts was able to do so)
Gwen >>> Atom Eve
Ben >>> Omniman
Period.
I love how you showed he wouldn't need one of his most op abilities. If he wanted to he can just scan omniman and fight him. Now you got full powered viltrimites going at it
Poor omni man, why you gotta do him like that? But hey, my goat ben 10 had to show em whose boss
Great video, i agree with most things you said. Omni-Man is getting cooked by Ben 10 for sure, without needing Alien X.
Even if Omni-Man can speedblitz most of Ben's alien, the Omnitrix' AI will react in time and give ben the right alien to counter the incoming attack
just one thing, at 4:33 you said Multruant (Evil chronosapian) instead of Malware (evil Galvanic Mechamorph)
Omni Man can speedblitz Ben 10? Bro, only idiot's would say that, Ben has the Omnitrix for an automatic self defense mechanism, He has Jet ray whose either as fast or faster than Omni Man, and he has Atomix, GravAttack, Waybig, AND Clockwork and Alien X, ESPECIALLY clockwork and Alien x, Omnipotence and Absolute Time Powers. Only idiots would claim Omni man standing a chance against Ben 10.
He could probably turn into Omni man and beat him as a viltrumite
he could obtain omniman dna and turn into a stronger verson
Which the omnitrix can do remotely might i add
@@itszefas yet they say omniman solo some of his alien
@@cronus555 some of them yeah, like there's no way stinkfly is surviving against omniman, but he has plenty that sweep omniman
@@itszefasonly alien x
@@nonameneeded2943Nolan ages so clockwork (who has infinite speed), gravattack who can crush him into a black hole, echo echo since vultramites are weak to sound, gutrot who is a walking chemical weapon, ghost freak no vultramite can deal with since they can't hit him, way big would diff him not just by size but by strength, durability, and speed, big chill can freeze people from thr inside and shatter them, amphibian can fry all of omnimans neurons, not to mention human ben can dodge, hit, and react to one of XLR8s species, who may I remind you, move so fast time appears slowed, and ben is casually doing that, this keeps going, omniman has never been in a more one sided fight.
Wouldn't even need alien x or any of the top tier aliens
Just turn into a ghost and possess him to death
Or use echo echo to fry his ears
Echo echo gets blitzed
Echo echo stomps
This could been a short video. ECHO ECHO. End of story.
He gets blitzed
Yup
Echo echo beats his A$$ real hard
Wouldn't it make more sense if Omni Man fought Saitama, Homelander fought Plutonian and Pop Eye fought Spongebob on Death Battle?
Two words. Echo Echo
This fight isn't even close it's Ben! With that watch you can turn into gods
i think we can all agree that Omni-Man stomps like 90 percent of Ben's transformations but he gets stomped even harder by that other 10 percent
Yeah especially when you consider that the Omnitrix has a little over a million dna samples but only about 500 or so are viable top tier“fighters”. We started to see it more in Omniverse where Ben would unlock really underwhelming aliens.
@@ShinyNumber1It makes sense. Obviously not every alien would be combat effective, especially since combat wasn't what the Omnitrix was made for, it's was made for understanding.
Me: "sees base Ben 10 dodged an attack from the Esoterica" yEaH tHaT mAkEs SeNsE
like omniman couldnt even speed blitz ben, cuz ben tanked the big bang, if youre not faster or more powerful than the big bang you can never speedblitz ben
So if ben becomes a viltrumite would he become UltraBen?
9:00 Bro I'm a Ben 10 fan and I didn't even know that! LOL
I fully agree that Ben Ten can beat Omni-man but Gutrot and most of the other aliens mentioned are going to be speed blitzed pretty easily Ben has aliens that could maybe counter speed blitz like Jetray and XLR8. I'm also not sure O the speed scaling cuz also atomic might also be speed blitzed as well he might be more powerful not sure but he is definitely slower and way big and Alien X are the only ones I see able to beat Mono-man
not really, most if not all of Ben's aliens can and have reacted or fought something around the same level as kinecelerarents (XLR8s species) who can move at speeds that make time appears to stop, they're doing this casually, sure ben rarely wins in movement but in combat and reaction he is far better, and if you think Nolan is still faster than Ben's reaction and combat speed, ben can react to lasers and light beams in what amounts to open space in human form while training, if you want to get specific in ben 10 classic max blocked shots from laser cannons individually after they were fired, so even back in classic its been like this, you could argue the lasers aren't light, but then the kinecelarents are still much faster, and the omnitrix can react faster then Nolan can do anything.
So there is only one in-correction from this video i have seen at 11:42, ben could only clone himself with echo echo then transforming to human using the ultimatrix, because it was made by albedo it was inferior, and incomplete since the aliens came to life on some occassions like the ultimates, so ben 10,000 would not be able to do this at all since its something azmuth fixed also the fact the all the cloned bens would not agree to things with their egotistical personality
Yeah I figured you choose those aliens but yeah those aliens are pretty powerful and very useful
"doesn't have the killer intent"
Yeah no if we're taking that screenshot as that version of Ben 10 000 like classic Ben 10 000 this is the same man who was constantly in alien form patroling all around the world taking all the villains out he sees you really think he wouldn't just fucking merk Omni man
Oh and also he has those pokeball things that I don't remember the name and if he really wanted to he could just send Omni Man to the Null void
Ummmmm omni man is an alien... the omnitrix can absorb the his DNA then transform... then theres the basic Alien X Ben has already convinced both halves to let him full control so he could just take away omnimans powers
Full control only to trivial things, with would be taking away omni man powers, so yeah
This is the biggest mismatch ever
Ben 10 vs Anne, Luz & Molly is an even bigger mismatch
All Ben needs is Goop
Omni man vs Kevin 11
Depends on which Kev it is... Still a stomp
You don't need Ben 10k you only need Teen Ben
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Wildmutt also has a Sonic attack however it only stuns
So does buzzshock but it's very weak by itself
@Tari_10_Editz really wild mutt to.
@@legendarygrimlock4471 yeah
He can do that in the game Ben 10 omniverse 1, and it's an area attack, if Omni-man gets near Ben, then Wildmutt can Stun him using his Sonic attack, keep in mind that wildmutt can also shoot projectiles from his fur, and they're really sharp
Mordecai and Rigby vs ben 10
While toon force is limitless they never shown any feat beyond low multi
Agreed
what are you saying? 5,1k views and 195 likes in 5 mouths should say something
Ben easily stomps I don't know why invincible is getting so much overhype.
He is basicaly Superman but evil ,really evil not just the dosent speak with batman type
But compare with someone like Ben who has so much versatility and world building behind its low
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The only omnitrix that we saw with a failsafe that not only prevented Ben's death in human form, let alone catch the big bang was the official omnitrix and we never saw a Ben 10k wielding the official omnitrix, so we can't say that Ben 10k would just have it. The only other omnitrix to prevent Ben's death was the ultimatrix however Ben had to be in alien form for it to work, and again we never saw a Ben 10k with the ultimatrix. The closest we got was Ultimate Ben which had the ultimate feature but it was its own trix.
Saying that any Ben 10k has the failsafes that the ultimatrix or official omnitrix has is just headcanon so...
In "Secrets" (Original Ben 10 serie's season 1 final) in Ben and Vilgax's first fight, when Vilgax turned Ben from Stinkfly back into a human and tried to remove Omnitrix with his own hands, omnitrix created a green energy wave that knocked Vilgax away.
This green energy was also seen in Ghostfreaked Out when Zs'Skayr was trying to posses Ben, clearly preventing Zs'Skayr from possesing Ben and in the same scene, omnitrix was in recharge mode but when Zs'Skayr tried to posses Ben, it suddenly charged up and turned Ben into gray matter.
These two examples clearly prove that prototype omnitrix has failsafes.
@@Komo1680 that's not protecting Ben's life, it's preventing the omnitrix from being messed with.
Also we saw when Zs Skayr tried to possess Ben when he was FourArms and the omnitrix didn't step in, but Zs Skayr couldn't possess him then anyways. However we saw Zs Skayr possess Ben in human form in Ghost Town and there was no such interference then either.
Also I never said that the official omnitrix was the only omnitrix that had failsafes, I said that it was the only omnitrix that prevented Ben from dying.
@hyprwhrl978 there's a whole thread In quora showcasing all the failsafes types, you can check it out, the prototype had lotta failsafes such as the death failsafe as seen In vengeance of vilgax