Next Gen Quantum LED Panels: Cheap, Easy & Super Efficient Boards (Spider Farmer Grow Light Review)
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2019
- Modern LED grow lights are efficient enough to replace older, higher wattage LEDs from just a few years ago. This newer panel outperformed my expensive LED while consuming HALF the power! When compared to a brand name Quantum Board*, Spider Farmer's grow lights can generate MORE light at a lower price ( 8:58 ). In this unpaid product review, I unboxed & measured light levels from my Spider Farmer SF 1000 LED plant grow light. I received the light at reduced cost & took objective PAR readings to see how much brighter these quantum styled LEDs are!
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2021 SPECS (120V)
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• Diodes: SAMSUNG LED LM301B (270 total pcs)
• Driver: Mean Well XLG-100-H-AB
• Power Draw: 100W (92W actual)
• PPE 400-700nm: 2.41 umol/J
• Photon Efficacy (380-780nm): 2.50 umol/J
• Total PPF (400-700nm): 221.5 umol/s
• Photon Flux (380-780nm): 230 umol/s
• Spectrum: 3000K, 5000K, 660nm, 760nm
• Coverage: 3' x 3' Veg / 2' x 2' Bloom
• Distance: 12" - 24" from Plant Canopy
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PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS
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Spider Farmer's board uses a typical horticultural color blend, optimized for plants. The broad spectrum of white light is easy on the eyes. Good for accurately monitoring plant health.
What really counts is how much light it throws. And this light is BRIGHT! Objective measurements were taken w/ my Apogee SQ-520 quantum sensor. It gives more accurate readings when comparing custom LED spectrums. I saw strong consistent numbers at 24 inches. With an average PPFD of 375, running this light at a cycle of 18 hrs on / 6 hrs off would produce a DLI of 24.3.
The SAMSUNG Diodes may have an efficacy of 2.7 micromoles per joule, but Spider Farmer's specs did NOT reflect the overall luminaire efficacy. I've sent the latest 2021 model to a 3rd party lab. The true PPE is only 2.41 umol/J. So pay attention to that! For an entry-level, consumer-grade grow light, it's quite good.
Would this LED be a good upgrade? Let's say your older LED outputs 1.6 micromoles per joule & draws 150W. Multiply them for a total output of 240 PPF. This SF-1000 should draw 100W at 2.4 umol/J, so it would output 240 PPF. In theory, it should be able to replace a 150 watt LED or maybe a little higher. But the problem I've been seeing is that Spider Farmer's newer units keep running at lower & lower wattages.
Spider Farmer doesn't use bogus wattages like '1000W'. And that's great. But their "100W" model still has it's own issues. I now have the 3rd revision of this LED & the power dips down to 91W after warming up. This reduces the photon output. So it might be 100W for the 1st 5 minutes, but who cares? If the stabilized power draw is 8 or 9 percent lower than expected, the consumer is getting ripped off.
FINAL THOUGHTS: I think this LED was an excellent upgrade for my small growing space. It's a great option for lettuce and nicely sized seedlings in a 3' by 3' area. If you're growing high-end fruiting or blooming plants, it offers entry level performance in a 2' by 2' area.
It's a great light that has worked well for me. And the efficacy surpasses many competitors. HOWEVER: I've tested a newer LED from Atreum Lighting. The HYDRA-1000 matches or exceeds the SF1000 in efficacy. And the final operating wattage is at least 20W higher which yields even more photon output. Plus, it's been listed at a lower price. So I really recommend that unit instead!
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* TERMINOLOGY NOTE: This light is NOT a "Quantum Board". Horticulture Lighting Group (HLG) has registered that term as a trademark. Don't confuse Spider Farmer's panels with actual "Quantum Boards" as they are in NO way affiliated with each other! Quantum styled panels have a large quantity of LEDs, spread out over a large area, in contrast with point sources such as COBs. Quantum is simply a common word in the English language used to describe "a large quantity" of hundreds of diodes per light fixture.
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_Check out my other reviews:_
*"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 1:* ua-cam.com/video/g6n8VhVGKDY/v-deo.html
*"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 2:* ua-cam.com/video/WmjOSzSF-HI/v-deo.html
*Spider Farmer SF300 / SF600:* ua-cam.com/video/RXbR-hcXeQ4/v-deo.html
*Spider Farmer SF2000:* ua-cam.com/video/lK28aiRQ_Vs/v-deo.html
*Spider Farmer SF4000:* ua-cam.com/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/v-deo.html
*Active Grow LoPro Max 320W:* ua-cam.com/video/PCaesi_M5DQ/v-deo.html
*Maxsisun MG3000:* ua-cam.com/video/Tw6-w2gybgo/v-deo.html
This UPS power station can backup a grow light!
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Check out my *Grow Light Cost Calculator:* ua-cam.com/video/aToYhyPZMVs/v-deo.html
_Learn more about artificial lighting and plant growth:_
► What is PAR vs ePAR Light? ua-cam.com/video/kUpEQ4kU148/v-deo.html
► The impact of Red or Blue light on plant growth: ua-cam.com/video/sfihE4IuFuU/v-deo.html
► To avoid Tip Burn: ua-cam.com/video/gHWf4Hfi3hA/v-deo.html
► Light Cycles & DLI: ua-cam.com/video/dQlOJ1zvoPI/v-deo.html
Do i need special glasses when amending my plants with the spider farmer led? And would it be harmful to my skin after a long period of time.
@@Sarah-wt2zk I don't stare directly up at the diodes. That being said, I don't wear any glasses when using it. And it does not produce UV, so it is safe for skin. Here is the spectrum: albopepper.com/images/spider-farmer-sf1000-full-spectrum-led-grow-light.png
the SF4000 has higher light output, a better spectrum & a lower price.
Good analysis - great video ! :-) Thanks !
Doing my own research, before reading reviews, and watching videos I chose to get 2, Spider farmer 2000 lights. Everything I keep reading backs up my research, that I made the right choice.
They seem like great lights with very low power consumption!
Thank you Big Time for explaining stuff and for keeping manufacturers honest by calling them out on their BS!
There's too much rip-off out there lately online!
We depend on people like you and you're few and far in-between. Excellent work!
By far, the most entertaining light science videos on the internet. I watch a lot of them, most are boring & overly complicated. Your videos make learning fun & I retain the knowledge. You are an excellent teacher.
I love this fella!!
"If you're growing high end fruiting plants, like mari...tomatoes"
Ahahaha PRICELESS!!
:D Thanks!
@Ged Woods just listen carefully and slowly
Timestamp for this quote is at 8:21 for those who just wanna hear him say that
😂👌
tomat..uana
Great review ! Balanced, objective, factual, educational 👍👌
Appreciate you doing this and giving us raw facts
Thanks for watching Greg! I appreciate your support. :)
Thank you so much for all the work you do on this channel! I am just starting to do research on indoor growing and I keep returning to your channel for accurate and unbiased information and comparisons. All the descriptions on Amazon have a lot of marketing speak so it is difficult to make any informed decisions. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for cutting to the chase and not adding "fancy shmancy" music in the background. Very much subbed!! haha
Albopepper - You earned my subscription @ the end when you told all the companies with over priced LEDs where they can stick it. Thank you sir, the more people we get saying and doing this the better the community can grow. Here I go to binge watch your channel. Have a great one!
Glad to see you upload again. Welcome back, sir!
Thanks a bunch Levent!
*$50 Amazon Gift Card!* Recently I encountered a situation which caused me to tweak & reupload this video. Even though it had just hit 149k views! To rebuild the video's performance, I'm awarding a $50 Amazon gift card to the FIRST UA-cam viewer who can reasonably guess why I re-uploaded the video.
Each viewer gets ONE guess which much be posted in the video comments. You'll need a valid email address for finalizing the reward. _(Sorry but my family members don't qualify to enter.)_ See if you can guess what happened!
Where u a little to kid friendly and it locked u into youtube kids?
LOL No. I'm glad I didn't build a channel around videos for kids. What a mess for those guys!
I'll guess that it was because of you mentioning "marij... Tomatoes" and youtube demonitized it.
@Pete With UA-cam these days, it wouldn't surprise me! But no, it wasn't because of that. Good guess tho!
Was it so you could include the comparison and sponsorship offer from the less "reputable" LED seller?
I love that you showed a sundew when mentioning plant health as I'm looking for lights to grow my carnivorous plant collection!
finally an honest straight forward review!!! Great job!!!
Thanks for the feedback and for your support on my channel! :)
I couldn’t be happier with my SF-2000’s. They’re such an amazing light, especially for the price, plants are loving it.
So glad to hear it!!!
I'm running an Sf-2000 as well. Difference is night and day and ya, that cost? How could you go wrong. Plus, if you contact them directly, they're usually willing to discount at least 10% of whatever the current price is. On top of deals that may already be on. They're competing in a high competitive, new quantum board market and love/need exposure. Just in case you ever want to buy another one😉!
AlboPepper , I was initially going to get this LED but opted for a 600W wakyme, considering it’s my first attempt. First attempt has proven to me that I’m capable and to be honest, I’m obsessed with this hobby therefore it’s time to upgrade. Hindsight, should’ve bought spider from the start.
So..I’ve got a 3x3 with a TomJuana that’s fixing to flower and my sprouts (4) are in a closet I converted to a makeshift grow room with a crappy Walmart light. I am remedying that right now-if I get another 3x3 should I get the 2000? I don’t want to get another subpar light again, but I don’t want to over do it either. Can I go bigger with tent space with the 2000? I know you covered this , sorry,
I loved the ending. About anyone who might want to send him lights and his email response lol just masterful
Holy smokes, this is exactly what I needed to see.
Maratomatos LOL ! That's GOLD bro!
The SF-4000s are awesome ;)
Great stuff Albo!! Thank you for the great work you are doing and putting it out there :)
I bought spider farmer SF 4000. And just finished my first grow
And wow im impressed. Thank you.
Awesome Jimmy! Glad to hear it. :-D
So i was thinking about grabbing oneof these for my 4×4 tent. Will this light flower that whole areas
@@richgunckel6483 Yeah, the 4000 is rated to flower a 5x5 area so you're good to go
@@richgunckel6483 yes i have a sf4000 and turned all the way up it actually pulls 618 watts but i have it toned down to the 450 they say it is and its still super bright in my 4x4
How did it compare to a 1000 watt hps on electronic ballast???
Thank you I’ve been trying to find an unbiased review and indepth explanation.
Thank you soooo much for explaining as thoroughly as you did!
I think I'm getting a technology orgasm in my brain. This video is 10/10. Been following your channel for years mate. Be well.
Greetings from Sweden.
Haha i had to comment once i saw the "mari-tomatos" line. Just like your website and other videos you provide a lot of well balanced and insightful info. Keep it up and thanks for all the help!
Thanks Albo. Another great job.
Your knowledge of agricultural lighting has come a long way. Great video, keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching and for offering your kind words! :-D
Nerd alert: You gave a passing mention to the coating covering the Spider Farmer. I used to work in the semiconductor industry on monitoring/testing systems in caustic or acidic environments that used that kind of clear coating. It's called conformal coating (but we called it caramel coat). It's a mess trying to repair something covered in it and then it had to be reapplied in order to reseal the spot. The reason it was so hard to work with is because it's so durable that it even resisted the solvents needed to melt it to make the repair. The fact that they use it when it adds cost to the process is a +1 for me.
Maritomatoes! LOL. Kinda like Cannabeans.
Hi ! you seem to know your shit, do you think its possible to apply heatsinks with thermal paste to this coating to help it cool or it not recomended?
These combined led colors are becoming the new standard. And they work great.
I couldn't agree more!
Great review, got me clicking the bell ;-)
After seeing your video I'm really glad i bought the SF2000 kit from Spider Farmer!
This is absolutely fantastic, you should do a best of led grow lights! I'm currently researching and the spider farmer so far is top on my list.
SF seems to be very good.
Cant wait until my Maritomatoes are ready for harvest
I'm checking it every 30 sec.
Patients young grass hopper . Don't cut those juicy fat marimatoes too early.
😂^
I subscribed to your integrity sir.
Thank-you! I appreciate your support. :-D
Thank you for such a thorough and subjective review. I’ve been looking to buy my first real grow light and it’s videos like yours that have proven to be the most helpful since there can be so many fake reviews and biased sellers. I hope you’re at least putting the other grow lights to good use while you have them, if not, I’ll take them off your hands, haha!! Keep up the quality videos!
Great video Albo! Appreciate the info.
Thanks for watching! :)
my buddy got spider 2000 and things are looking grrrrrrrreat. im working on getting the 4000.happy growing everyone.
Good to hear! Thanks for watching. :-D
I got 2 SF4000s in my 4×8 and they are crushing it...I love my Spiderfarmers
How big are your yields?
I like them. Use them and do recommend. I create mari-amato strains.
U get big yields?
And all I want is a grow light :) Thanks for the info
I have the SF 4000 and its soo bad ass, so glad I took your advice and didnt spend an extra 500$ on the HLG!!!!
Thanks for the LeD advise i will be putting it to good practice
Thanks for watching! :)
These lights are amazing.
Great channel , thanks for the info
Nice find. I got a couple of California Lightworks SolarSystem 550's a few years back but I'll be sure to keep them in mind when it's time to upgrade
Great vid thanks for breaking down the equations and measurements which can be confusing for newbies like me
I love that "Sticky Fly Plant" you have there. I want these for medicine, but I also tried growing fly plants in the past because I am facinated with them. they always died in the winter, so maybe with grow lights now I will start some again in the future :)
They may need a dormant period in cooler temps but I don't know for sure.
This is probably like the 3rd UA-cam comment I've made in my life, but I felt compelled to tell you that this is unequivocally the best product review I've ever seen. Thank you.
Thanks so much for watching David!
Awesome dude!!
Thank you, great work with the measurements and comparissons, muchs needed. Graciaas
Thank you for great videos, I really like your style.
Thanks for watching! :)
To cool , you talk about being honest, well you are one heck of a guy for saying it like it is, excellent review....thank you 🙏
Thank-you very much for watching Kay!
I would buy their product(s) for the integrity, but I don't know much about grow lights. I just appreciate the honesty.
i subbed and liked just for the mari..tomatoes hahaha you are amazing my friend, keep it up!
This is the much greatly improved videography of Albo Pepper. You have an excellent presentation, content and performance with this new video. Please note that there are numerous folks and light manufacturers out there that still embrace grams/watt as a valid method to evaluate grow lights. However, when we discuss grow lights today in 2020 much scientific measurement theory is now pedestrian. In that effort, to name drop we need to check Shane, MIGRO and Bruce Bugbee, Apogee Instruments, among many others to observe that the grow light discussion has matured into a verbal lexicon that you have so eloquently presented. Thanks for providing this information.
I almost ordered them and now ur made me change my mind an get them thanks
Cool! I've been running my SF1000 & SF2000 since December and my plants are loving life. :-)
I almost ended up getting a blurple light for around the same price as the SF-1000. Thanks AlboPepper! I got the light in today and they come with a separate dimmer now! Not the one behind the driver.
Good video, thanks a lot man
Thanks for the videos
Should of made this video when I was buying my light like a month ago
Thank you!!! Thank you! Thank you!
Loren Bayer ::: How did you make up your mind? I need a spreadsheet of price VS. performance!
Thank you for making this video. I’m aware of these scams but a lot of growers are not. Thanks again for saving the consumer! Also do you know if that spectrum graph given is accurate? I’m very interested
Very interesting video brother... Thank...
Thanks for your feedback! :)
Really very good review ,, very truthful and very realistic about what is being sold to us. Here in Ireland the price for the SF1000 is 162 euros (180) dollars and from what you are telling us ,,there are cheaper lights giving the same results . The SF4000 is 812 euros (904 dollars) and dose a much better job,, BUT my god the price ,,its crazy .
Looking to do micro greens, then in the future larger plants, would you recommend this light? At what distance, and would you do full power ( actually the 2000) or lowering it? Thanks love your channel.
Absolutely love how you make fun of the crap 3 bar led light at 7:10.
Awesome Review, you get right into the good stuff! Did you Re post it because a company did not want to be shown as over priced lol
Thanks for watching! Good guess, heheh. Some companies definitely don't like the competition from Spider Farmer. But there was more to it than that.
@@Albopepper hmmm perhaps a strike from not claiming the fact you bought the light the first video
Each person only gets one guess. ;) However, I can assure you that that's not the reason. I decided to add in the text because I was re-uploading anyway. I had originally made a disclaimer at the end. But I figured it would be even more transparent to post the disclaimer at the very beginning too.
Thanks for giving temperature values in Celsius too and not just Fahrenheit
Thx mate ! And love the wnd of the video ! Hahaha so true
Thank you :)
I really like your review, consider me sub'd. And also super high quality video too. Keep the reviews coming!
I have a variety of succulents in my garage for the winter. I have about 60 small plants. Is this a good grow light for succulents to keep them compact? Your video is very informative. Thanks!
The theme of Stranger Things starts playing...It's the science teacher at Hawkins Middle School, Mr. Clarke! ;) Seriously though, you do look like him, AlboPepper :) Thanks for this episode, very illuminating ba-dum-tishh Seriously again, it is.
Great video！Just wondering that are all these theories applies to aquarium plants as well ?
Thanks for watching! The concepts here apply to any plant light, since plant lights should be rated with PPF values rather than lumens.
Saw the mustache and remembered Grateful Grower. What happened to that guy? His vids were the best
Have you done a review on the solar extreme 250 from California lighting?
Great video, I feel like I'm reasonably up to date with how LEDs are evolving and have been looking for a review of the Samsung chips. Is a 4 channel light good enough to mature a "non-medical" tomato plant or perhaps an indoor orange tree? I thought a tiny amount of UV would promote growth or shew pests. Does UV or more channels help?
Thanks for watching Arthur. UV light does have some advantages as you've mentioned. But LEDs are less efficient at generating UV vs PAR wavelengths. I've seen good growth without the UV. But the broader the spectrum, the better. I think these particular models have a nice blend.
I have pro-emit DIY 400 with Cree CBX, very good LED
loved the video
Thanks Dutch!
AlboPepper - Drought Proof Urban Gardening
I currently use a metal halide for vegetative and then switch to high pressure sodium for flower, old school stuff, i know. I have a question though. If i made a separate room for vegetative phase and used this light (or more likely the SF2000) would the plants be able to handle getting moved under a 1000W HPS after the LED? My ballast is electronic with adjustable wattage, so could i just reduce the watts for the first couple weeks if this would be too stressful? I ask because I'm wanting to make another room for vegetative to cut down grow time for my mariTomatoes. Thanks for your time and advice.
Very professional video. Do you have any idea about Mars TS1000?
I haven't tested that one but thanks for watching!
I recently built myself a 250 Watt board with Samsung Horticulture Linear arrays (L2). It's really simple: Go to DigiKey, buy the modules, an adequate heat sink, drill holes in it, put thermal paste on, drill holes for hanging cables, buy the adequate Mean Well Driver and you're good to go. 2.7 umol/J, lots of blue, red and a bit of green. At full power, the heat sink gets up to 45°C max. You can't go more efficient than that (for this price).
Way to show how to compare lights and break down information for the public!
Thanks Matt! I think people just need to know what to look for so they can make the most informed choices.
Do you have any recommendations for very small form factor grow lights? I was looking at the gooseneck ones on amazon but they are all apparently super misleading
What are your thoughts on the Barrina led grow lights.? If you haven't already posted a video about them.
Very interesting. Could you please tell me with which tool are you measuring PPFD? Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching! This is the sensor I use: www.apogeeinstruments.com/sq-520-full-spectrum-smart-quantum-sensor-usb/
Hello?.Can you compare the led panel that you are using in this video in light efficiency between the cxb 3590 led or the citizen clu48?.Thanks.
Do you have any suggestions for a beginner/budget light for micro greens and seedlings
So if I am growing just one maji-tomato in a 4x4 with a sf2000 is this to much light in to big of a space for just one? Do I just germinate then go 18/6 with the full 200 watt at seedling or would a 2x2 with a 60 watt be better conditions? Just a little confused with that thanks for any help!
How is this light still holding up....I've seen it review by a bunch of people but I enjoy you in depth review. Thanks keep up the great work and stay safe
So far, so good. Been running the SF-1000 at 100 watts and the SF-2000 at 75 watts for 5 months. Plant growth has been the best I've ever had. Quite satisfied so far!
@@Albopepper awesome, I'm really think I might buy myself a lamp or 2 to start my hydro setup. Been watching your videos for a while and I love how in depth you go with your analayse. I will try and use that promo code of yours once I get out of the hospital and get settled back home.
Take care and stay safe.🍻
Have you heard much about the Meijiu lights from China (Alibaba)? I got one for Christmas, but I don't have the proper equipment to test the PPFD. My 240W model cost about $180 shipped, and I would love to know if it holds up vs the SF. Mine uses Samsung LM301H chips too.
Once again thanks for the truth about the companies gimmicks!!
thanks for video or explained what is 2.7 umol / j
This guy is awesome hahaha!
What do you think about the 250 watt e39 replacement bulbs for reflective hoods? Is the $130 worth it?
Have you done any reviews on the vivosun 1200
Hello thankyou for running this you tube demo. I have just bought the Quatum LED SF 1000 light for my Hoya propogation. My question is this. How high above the plants should the light sit? I will have them in a 3ft by 3ft reflective lined box. The plants are in clear plastic boxes to keep in humidity at 70% and heat 22 degrees. I have heat Matts coming and will have to figure out the heat in the plastic boxes by shifting their lids. But it's the height of the light I'm not sure about. I'm also not sure how long I should have the light going for. I'm watching your SF 2000 and you explain all my questions but I have the SF 1000. Inally its summer here I keep the plastic boxes at 23 and humidity of 60% ish. But I dont want direct sun light on them and naturally as the sun leaves my morning window I loose light so, is it better to grow them under the quantum or morning dappled natural sunlight... I'm a total virgin grower and learning hence me watching you...looking forward to your reply. Kate New Zealand
When such lights were not available i made my own with white blue n orange LED that too focused ones without heat sinks as they don't need it was in 2008..for my plant house .just to match sun like colour problum was i had to solder hundred of them with set of three + a resistor..that too on a project pcb ..consumed lot of time ...but was worth back then
Sounds cool! Imagine what you could do with the latest diodes on the market! :)
Thanks for the great video! Very informative!! I’m interested in the sf1000 and sf2000 for my nepenthes and carnivorous plants. However, before I purchase, are any of these products UL or ETL listed or certified? Also, would you recommend getting the sf1000 and running it at full power or getting the sf2000 and dimming it to best suit my PPFD needs?
Thanks for watching Steven! I'm not sure on the UL / ETL listing status. But my personal recommendation is to get an SF-2000 if it's within your budget. If you've seen my 2nd video in this series, you know that it's a great option. I'm currently running both right now for some seedling experiments. And I keep feeling tempted to buy a 2nd SF-2000 to replace the SF-1000. Both work great, but the underdriven SF-2000 is insanely cool to the touch. And you have an even larger area of consistent light coverage!
AlboPepper - Drought Proof Urban Gardening
FYI I emailed Spiderfarmer directly and they got back to me promptly (great customer service). They said all their lights are ETL certified, which is great because my biggest worry is the safety of all these budget LED grow lights coming out of China. I also emailed HGL about their 100 V2 and they said unfortunately their only ETL certification is for their 550 V2 r spec. Just thought I’d post this in case anyone else was wondering about this very topic. Thanks for the reply! Looking forward to more videos.
Nice! Thanks for sharing that Steven. :-D
What do u think about the mars hydro ts 1000 compared to this?
Basically the same or is the spider justified in being slightly more expensive??
Thnx bro
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