Baptism - Why the Disputes (1st in Series)
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- Watch the new sermon from Apologia Church with Pastor James White. This is part 1 of a series on the subject of baptism which will be done by Dr. White. Baptism is a vitally important issue within the Christian Worldview. However, throughout the centuries, Christians have had in-house disagreements over the mode of baptism as well as specifically who should get it and when. Dr. White hopes to bless the body of Christ with a thorough biblical as well as historical examination of this subject. We hope it blesses you! Show someone!
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A person must be “baptized” to be saved, but it has nothing to do with water. The proof is found below.
Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit)
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. (Acts 10:38) The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church?
The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again)
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 1:5, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water/ every time they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant)
As a conservative Lutheran I would agree that I have more in common with my reformed brothers than liberal Lutherans
You're n a good place. From a Baptist.
Well then why make your home there? The only way I guess you could be there is to expose what’s wrong in the church. I know you most likely have friends there and it’s hard to pull away. I Used to go to a reformed Presbyterian church that did baby baptisms I could not agree with it, it caused conflict for us. God had us leave, they were not going to change and that meant I would have to and that was not going to happen.
@@lindaw2418 there's different denominations within lutheranism, sort of like PCA and PCUSA.
@@lindaw2418Presumably, he's there because he agrees with Lutheranism. Liberal Lutherans aren't Lutherans at all; they're just leftists who've hijacked it for whatever purpose. Besides, there's still the LCMS if you're American, which is the OG Lutheran denomination in this country, and they haven't had this issue to nearly the same extent.
Dr. James White is a very brilliant brother in Christ Jesus and I'm very grateful that I have come across his amazing work. God is very good. The Lord sends us Theologians like brother White to help us in our walk with Him. Thank you for your hard work, Dr. James White.
It's always a breath of fresh Air listening to this Man of God Speak.
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My lesbian pastor is nicer than james white and her wife helps baptize the fat people
@@democratpro your personal life doesn't interest me. Me extending Jesuschrist Gospel does. Fat people need to endorse their snickers to the homeless and you need to repent! Christ died for you. Believe in him and you shall be saved from your perverted heart and sewage of thoughts that flow out of your mouth.
Thank you Dr.White for the faithful preaching of God’s Word !
Thank you for your stand in this day. I appreciate your discussion which comments were tuned off about what's going on in the woke churches. Bless you from Wales UK
I like his work.
Very good warning about traditions impacting our hermeneutics!
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revelation when I was on
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Yeah. I'm with luther and calvin on this one. Yours sincerely a Presbyterian brother.
Likewise a Presbyterian, and likewise with Luther and Calvin on this issue....... sort of. It's a slightly flimsy argument, in my eyes, because as soon as we say we're with Luther on something, and even (to a lesser extent) with Calvin, you'll be continually surprised to learn just how many doctrines they held that a Westminister-style Presbyterian would absolutely not. To say so is to open yourself to the next obvious question of, "So you agree with Luther's view of baptism, that the baptism of infants is an act of saving regeneration?" It all goes a bit pear-shaped from there!
@@Mic1904 As a Westminster guy myself, I don't have a problem with baptismal regeneration. Here's why:
WCF 27.2 "There is in every sacrament a spiritual relation, or sacramental union, between the sign and the thing signified: whence it comes to pass, that the names and effects of the one are attributed to the other."
I think at least 90% of the debate between Reformed and Lutheran is merely miscommunication due our preferred ways of expressing ourselves. Lutherans prefer speaking in terms of the sign, Presbyterians in terms of the thing signified. My confession says both are correct and biblical.
Even in Luther's work, it is clear that he is not saying that the mere water ceremony is the thing that saves. In the Large Catechism he has a category for a baptism "absent from the Word" which he says "the water is the same as that with which the servant cooks, and may indeed be called a bath-keeper’s baptism." (IV.22). And he speaks of the spiritual reality of Baptism in 74-75: "And here you see that Baptism, both in its power and signification, comprehends also the third Sacrament, which has been called *repentance, as it is really nothing else than Baptism.* For what else is repentance but an earnest attack upon the old man [that his lusts be restrained] and entering upon a new life? Therefore, if you live in repentance, you walk in Baptism, which not only signifies such a new life, but also produces, begins, and exercises it."
It is clear that Luther isn't saying the mere act of getting wet saves, nor that a baby is automatically saved through the water ceremony if they never repent.
But 99% of the debate is the Lutheran incorrectly lumping Calvin's view with Zwingli and then only arguing against Zwingli and ignoring the actual Reformed position no matter how much evidence to the contrary is presented to them.
@@oracleoftroy Lot of excellent points here, friend, much of which I fully agree with! Some of your comments match up uncannily with some of what I’ve been studying and thinking on lately with regards to the sacraments that it’s like having a conversation with myself.
I completely share your view that both Calvin and the framers of the Westminster Standards have a view of the sacraments that’s different from the kind of Zwingli-leaning perspective of some in modern reformed-ish and broadly evangelical circles. I also wholeheartedly agree that by being careful with our language and definitions, we discover we are indeed closer to our Lutheran brethren than some might think.
As someone who spends some time listening to confessional Lutheran (LCMS-type) pastors though, it’s at this point that I would sound just a small note of caution (if I could be so bold) before we suggest that this amounts to 90% similarity with the Lutherans on these specific matters. I totally get it, and I’ve been here before - but every time you think you’ve sussed out the confessional Lutheran perspective on the sacraments and told yourself, ‘Ah, ok, I think I understand what they’re saying, and y’know, I think we’re actually very much on the same page about the sacraments in a way you might not think once you sort the language out!’, there’s a confessional Lutheran waiting around the corner to tell you that, no, actually, quite literally they believe that when the water hits the baby’s head with the Trinitarian formula, that child is now literally a saved Christian (though, in Lutheran doctrine, they can of course walk away from the faith in later life and lose salvation) and that, for Lutherans, to talk of the day they were saved is not a discussion of some kind of ‘born again’ moment, but a discussion of the day of their baptism as a child as the day they were saved. Yes, of course, you’re correct to say they do not ascribe that power to the water (the sign) itself, yet that is the moment at which the thing signified (salvation) takes place in a very literal sense, regardless of how you or I might interpret Luther himself on this matter. And not, as we Westminster Presbyterians might try and attempt to fudge and reframe their perspective: ‘Oh, you mean Christian in, like, the federal sense that they are a part of the visible church as a part of a covenant household, but to whom we do not ascribe presumptive regeneration and Lord’s Table privileges until they are of age to profess faith before the Kirk Session, right?’. No, literally - water of head + Trinitarian formula = child is a Christian on the way to heaven from henceforth unto eternity unless they stray from the faith. They already are a saved Christian by way of their infant baptism. That would be my only one word of caution - I get it, and totally agree, we are much closer to a Lutheran understanding of baptismal regeneration when we all properly understand how we’re utilizing the terminology (and our Lutheran brethren can, respectfully, be dreadful for conflating Calvin and Zwingli!), but that the Lutherans really do, crucially, take it to that place that we sometimes try and imagine they surely don’t.
Appreciate your thoughts on the matter! Just my proverbial 2 cents for whatever it may (or, more likely, may not) be worth. Enjoyed reading that.
@@Mic1904 _"I totally get it, and I’ve been here before - but every time you think you’ve sussed out the confessional Lutheran perspective on the sacraments and told yourself, ‘Ah, ok, I think I understand what they’re saying, and y’know, I think we’re actually very much on the same page about the sacraments in a way you might not think once you sort the language out!’, there’s a confessional Lutheran waiting around the corner to tell you that, no, actually, quite literally they believe that when the water hits the baby’s head with the Trinitarian formula, that child is now literally a saved Christian (though, in Lutheran doctrine, they can of course walk away from the faith in later life and lose salvation) and that, for Lutherans, to talk of the day they were saved is not a discussion of some kind of ‘born again’ moment, but a discussion of the day of their baptism as a child as the day they were saved."_
Heh, this is great. I just had to quote it.
I know exactly what you are talking about and have experienced it for myself. Maybe they are right, but I find that the Book of Concord is more careful with their language than those who reply like that are. When I've pushed back, I haven't seen one respond in a way that makes sense of the nuance Luther has. Perhaps it is the peril of only having interacted with lay-Lutherans. I find the lay-Calvinists on my own side give similar unhelpful push back when they get cornered, defaulting to "you don't understand Calvinism" even during those rare times when the objector actually does.
But I won't claim to have more than passing knowledge of Lutheranism. I haven't read even half of the Book of Concord, but I've read Luther's catechisms regarding the sacraments and don't recall anything that I explicitly disagreed. If there is something, it is something I haven't read yet or it is an extra-confessional interpretation. I do approach the Book of Concord like my church approaches our confessions; treating it as if it shows where the boundaries are. Maybe they view it as being more precise and narrowing than that.
_"No, literally - water of head + Trinitarian formula = child is a Christian on the way to heaven from henceforth unto eternity unless they stray from the faith."_
But that's how my church (PCA) treats children as well. They are assumed to be Christian and children of the covenant until they walk away. The difference here is that we would say they were never saved, and (some? most? all?) Lutherans would say they were saved and are now not saved (I seem to recall that there is some debate about losing salvation in Lutheranism).
_"They already are a saved Christian by way of their infant baptism."_
And like I indicated before, I honestly don't have a problem with this claim, per se. It is Biblical language, and when I've worked through with Lutherans what they mean by it, it is clear they aren't talking about a mere water ceremony per se, but a work of God just as we would.
But yeah, they do tend to push against saying that clearly sometimes. But the ones who push back hardest also seem prone to saying things that are verifiably wrong, like claiming that Lutherans are not at all in communion with Reformed Christians, yet things like "A Formula of Agreement" exist. There are always people who care more about being contrarian than accurate, so it is easier to dismiss their claims about things I know less about when they are that wrong about claims I can readily verify.
@@oracleoftroy Very interesting all round, I've learned a fair bit from this interaction alone. You're probably quite right, for example, that the confessional Lutheran position may very well not have the nuance and depth of understanding of Luther himself (I have heard someone point out - hey, remember, there's a difference between Luther and Lutheranism).
Very interesting what you say about the PCA. I'm from a Scottish Free Church background, and my church has friendly though entirely informal relations with the PCA (also with the OPC, incidentally). And of course they're well known to us through the likes of Sproul. Lot of respect for that denomination. It sounds to me (and I'm happy to stand corrected) that what you're describing is a form of presumptive regeneration? That a child is considered a Christian believer unless proved otherwise? This view is not totally unheard of in all of Scottish Presbyterianism, but it is controversial one and very much a minority view (the kind old ladies will whisper about in the back pew while noisy eating boiled candy) and would be officially rejected by most of the 700 zillion denominations we somehow manage to have here. The view typically would be that while a child is covenantally and federally apart of a Christian household and carrying the covenant sign, it doesn't presume regeneration and salvation anymore than in the old covenant ("Not all of Israel is Israel") and that a covenant child has to make their own profession of faith when they are of age to be a communicant member of the church and not just 'an adherent'. As with some aspects of Lutheranism though, it is possible that we are actually describing mostly the same thing but in different language.
As per usual, very interesting to hear your (well expressed) perspective.
Baptise me with you Holy Spirit, Jesus!
I was baptized on my 19th birthday by submersion on an October morning , in Lake Erie. The water was like 45 degrees but it was a perfect day for me and a true baptism in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. And to God’s glory I didn’t feel the slightest chill in my body!
The water has to be at least 67 degrees to count. Says so in exodus 51
Praise God!
@@democratpro 😅
That's a good one !
Were you a Born Again Christian before you got Baptized?
What is the " Name" of the Father,Son,Holy Spirit?
Dr. James White is my personal favorite Reformed Evangelical scholar alive today. This series of sermons on Baptism is almost like taking a seminary course on the topic.
@ the end of the day it doesn’t matter if you’re baptized by water as an infant/child or an adult if you aren’t regenerated by the Holy Spirit you’re not going to see or enter the kingdom of God.
“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God…That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” (John 3:3,6)
As for Jesus’ baptism, the best message I’ve ever heard from a reformed baptist is “The meaning and mode of Baptism” by Douglas Van Dorn on sermon audio.
Thank you for posting the name and the title of the message. Thanks….
Been waiting patiently for this. 😊
@Psalm 2:8-9 John's ministry was to Israelites, but the disciples and apostles were commissioned to the Jews and then Gentiles. Please stop seeping contention.
Perhaps this isn't the corect forum or maybe I missed the reference, but, in discussions of baptism, why is there no mention of the Jewish mikveh? It seems to me that, at least from a superficial standpoint, that the concept of baptism flows naturally out of Jewish ritual cleansing. To me, it seems that Jesus, amongst all His other corrections of Jewish religious practices and ceremonies, was correcting or perhaps re-focusing Jewish ceremonial cleansing to a once for all cleansing in His blood represented by and through the baptismal waters. I would greatly appreciate a consideration of this in one of your venues. I believe it has the potential to be profitable for study and for bolstering the immersion argument.
Many thanks and Maranatha!
I've wondered the same thing. Very important cultural import at that time. Yep so right on you are. Awesome comment my good man.
There is barely anything on the Mikvaoth even in Ferguson's tome. I don't think there has been an integrated sustained treatment of the topic yet. It is a PhD study ripe for the doing.
The only true name of the Savior of the world is YAHSHUA! “Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. For we do not preach ourselves, but the Christ YAHSHUA the Lord...” (2 Corinthians 4:1-5).
Halleluyah means, “Praise YAH!”
Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid;
‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song;
He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV).
YAH, which means ‘I AM’, in Hebrew, and this is the name which is above every name revealed to Moses (Exodus 3:13-15).
Christ acknowledged that His name is YAH, as in “YAH Saves,” which is the revealed name YAHSHUA (see Matthew 1:21, for He will save His people), because He has the name which is above every name. For He said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM {YAH}” (John 8:58). Jesus, Iesus, Iesous, Yeshua, Isa, Hey-zeus, are counterfeit names for they lack “YAH.”
“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). The Heavenly Father revealed the Savior’s name: “YAHSHUA.” [YAH = I AM, Shua = Salvation, thus YAHSHUA.]
The apostle Paul, on the road to Damascus, encountered the Savior, who introduced His name to him in Hebrew as “YAHSHUA” (Acts 26:12-16).
The apostle Paul heard in Hebrew Christ revealed His name as YAHSHUA, and Paul hearing YAH actually wrote the one name, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Christ is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11).
Halleluyah, Praise YAH, Praise YAHSHUA! YAHSHUA is the only name of salvation, and the gospel warns us not to reject His name: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18). The Savior’s name is YAHSHUA, and because there is no other name, any other names are counterfeits [not including titles, such as El Shaddai, or Emmanuel], and these counterfeit names are because: “Satan, deceives the whole world” (Rev. 12:9). “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matthew 7:13-14). “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name” (John 1:12). Believe in the revealed name YAHSHUA and forsake all other names.
I think there are other topics that are more important to discuss as Christians. I was born Lutheran, was baptized as an infant, became a strict baptist and denounced my infant baptism and was baptized and today I'm sure both ways work. Even though I prefer baptism upon confession of faith I think the Bible does not explicitly forbids infant baptism and consider it today as a legitimate way of getting baptized. God bless all of you in Jesus Christ.✝️🕊️
So what are you?
Desire Of All Nations no no no, I’m not gonna let you twist scripture buddy. He said they must be born again, not baptized
@@beanteam2217 Jesus said one must be born of WATER and SPIRIT.
Jesus Name Baptism!
I was baptized in Jesus Name in 1971 I was a soldier in US Army in Seoul South Korea I though I grew up in the Apostolic faith oneness since birth but I got converted while I. Duty I was 21 I'm now 72 I presently attend UPCI in Calif
@@davidortega357 I was convirted in an apostolic church in Fresno CA.
Amen! This is the true baptism of the faith. 🙏🏼
How crazy is that. I got the Holy Ghost in Fresno California as well July of 1999
So excited to watch this series.
Please preach more often.
I have literally seen James White at my church back in the nineties.....I like him a lot......... My problem with this position is that he does come with former biases......... I would lose in a debate with him or in just remembering what I have learned over the years. There are tens of thousands that could better discuss this topic than me. Nowhere does the scriptures say YOU HAVE TO BE IMMERSED. If that is the case, then in another instant you would have to immerse a table to wash it for that passage uses the same Greek word. When the scripture says and straightway, he came up out of the water, nowhere intimates that he was fully under the water. Going down into the water literally means you were on the shore now you went down into the water. How far? To your ankles, knees, thighs, waist, chest, neck...........I think RC Sproul has a good understanding of baptism as a SIGN of the New Covenant.......NOT that these children are automatically saved or even will be saved.....but as a sign to those who are in the House of God that they will be raised in a covenantal household.......If that child getting baptized grows up to believe in believers' baptism and wants then to get baptized then do it. It is a SIGN......Another problem with believers' baptism for children is it actually points more to free will thinking. What, only when "THEY CHOOSE" Jesus by themselves THEN they can get baptized? When is that right age? When Jesus was preaching and telling people to believe and be baptized, he was speaking to adults or to people of all ages sometimes. The same with John the Baptist. Yes then if you believed then be baptized........and so on. I like this teaching from White, but I totally understand the teaching of Sproul on this subject. Sorry for this long comment. I love the friendship of Sproul and MacArthur, and as we all know they differed on this topic a lot.
What example in scripture affirms the teaching from sproul that you described in regards to it being a sign of entrance into the church/parents declaring their child will be raised according to the ways of the Lord?
@@subjecttochristwe don’t rely on gotcha passages to affirm paedobaptism but the teachings of the Bible from start to finish. Children were included in Old Covenant dealings with God, and we believe the promises of God continue unless abdicated in the New.
No where does the NT teach that children are now excluded from the covenant. That would’ve been absolutely shocking to the Jews, yet we hear no pushback at all.
“And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.””
Acts 2:38-39 ESV
Love it! Bring it! Keep it coming, doc! Keep it coming Apologia!
I hope James debates a confessional Lutheran on this one day. That would be quite a debate. CLs are very informed of the argumentation against their view of baptism.
Are they though? I constantly see them lump Calvin and Zwingli's view together as if they were the same where in reality Calvin was much closer to Luther on the sacraments. If they can't get a basic thing like that right, it is hard to trust that they truly understand other views.
Most current day American Lutherans are so removed from their heritage that the nuances between Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, or even Melanchthon our not even considerations.
@@oracleoftroy that’s because we’ve read the written documentation of the Marburg Colloquy and no matter how much more nuanced a description, a sacrament that confers nothing, still confers nothing, no matter how many more words are used to describe it. In the Lord’s Supper both believers and unbelievers alike consume our Lord’s Body and Blood orally, giving life to those who believe and condemnation to those who don’t. But both received the Lord’s Body and Blood, orally. Calvin would never say that. He said unbelievers received mere bread and wine. Which is what Zwingli said.
Really good preacher!
With regard to Jesus 'coming up out of the water' there is surely a question cf 40 min-ish. As a simple point of geography any one stepping out of a river must come up out of the water because the water flows at the lowest point whether it is only ankle deep or above head height. I admit that Jesus underwent more than simple sprinkling but he could have been standing or kneeling with John pouring water over Him from a bowl. Full immersion is not necessarily implied.
Agreed. Not only that, but Acts 8:38-39 describes both the baptiser (Philip) and baptisee (Ethiopian eunuch) going down and coming up out of the water - which leads to the question, if 'to go down' or 'come up out of' water means to be immersed in baptism... were both these men being simultaneously immersed in baptism or just the one?
The word means to go under. Rantizo is the word for sprinkling.
@@gordonreed2736 What word are you referring to?
Baptizo...check Danker boys
@@gordonreed2736 Thought so. Now I'm not a Greek or Hebrew student but as I understand it the verb Baptizo is used in the Septuagint to translate the Hebrew word for washing or cleansing the various basins and implements used at the altar between sacrifices, and indeed for the washing of the priests themselves. But the Jews did not wash in still water as we would have in a basin or bath or baptistry. For them the water had to be flowing or 'living' ie poured over the item being cleansed: the item was not immersed in the water. Therefore whatever the verb means in the Greek (and does it ALWAYS mean immersed or just usually mean immersed) when used to translate the Hebrew there is clearly some lee-way and therefore the question MUST arise does it actually mean immersed in the NT? And how does that fit with Baptism being essentially a sacrament arising out of Jewish, not Greek, ritual cleansing?
One thing I’ve noticed: seekers get babtised and celebrate. The master got babtised and fasted for 40 days, having a showdown with the devil.
Amen the Christian life is full of conflict inside and out.
Andrew Farley has an eye opening, to the point, biblical explanation on baptism.
Run from Farley
Why should I run from Farley?@@JustKaiTheGuy
I don't feel I fit at any of my local Churches. It's a struggle just to find expository preaching.
Obviously, the most important reason to use "ordinance" for baptism, rather than sacrament, is that it's very close to the term "ordnance", used for high-explosives, used to destroy enemy positions and strongholds (2 Cor 10:5). Dr. White even uses the term "explosive" for the combo of Reformed and Baptist... Heavy Artillery all the way!
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Exodus 2:10 And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.
Very interesting how the word baptism is transliterated and was purposely done to hide the word immersion which is the literary translation from the greek.
When it comes to adults being baptized in the NT, how is this supposed to be a deciding factor on infant vs credo baptism? Both models predict "believe and be baptized" for adults. Its ver rare to have a conversation with an infant... lol, so why would we expect infant baptism to leap from the pages?
yea renewing our minds, good way to wrap it up
Grace and truth ministries with Pastor Jim Brown has an in-depth study on baptism that goes way beyond this if anybody is interested.
@Scribeintheink not unless there’s something you don’t know about
Baptism gets one INTO Christ (Galatians 3:27, Romans 6:3)
Baptism is the point of a believer being forgiven by God (Acts 2:38, 22:16, 1 Pet 3:21)
CoC get outta here with that
@@friendlyfire7509 Why? It's the truth.
@@friendlyfire7509Luther and the reformers believed it.
@Scribeintheink A lot of the middle age theologians and church fathers hated the Jews doesn't make it right, Luther wanted them saved as well.
Luther was wrong on wanting to get rid of James out from the canon.
Luther can be wrong he is not infallible at least we admit he was wrong unlike the papacy.
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Can you talk about puritans traditions Christmas Easter and such
Maybe someone can help me with a question I have. I grew up in the Catholic faith. Was baptized in a Union United Church. Attended Catholic school, I think I may have ben baptized again ( 🤔) did my First Communion & Confirmation in the Catholic church. Are thise Baptisms enough 🙄🤔 AND where does a born again Christian cone into all this. Someone told me I needed to get baptized AGAIN because I'm an adult & am more fully aware of sin, etc. Thank you to ANYONE who can refer me to scripture, etc to get my answer. ❤Am praying for discernment & guidance, BUT I appreciate ALL THE HELP available that I can get. THANK YOU 🙏🤎
Maybe because Baptism wasn't disputed for 1500 years
Shows your historical ignorance
@@acolytes777 Na you’re deluded
@@DougWarner25 more like I dont have tunnel vision for historical inquiry
@Psalm 2:8-9 Matt 28:19. Please stop lying.
@Psalm 2:8-9 Idk, Matt 28:19 and Acts 2:38 contradict that...
Nothing gets settled in Protestantism. All doctrines are mere opinions.
😢 How can a baby who is baptized be working? Baptism is 100% by God's grace, not by what we do. Seems to me when you baptized a person after they have "decided to believe and surrender to God's Lordship over their life," that is a work. Baptism is something 100% God's work. Call it baptismal regeneration if you want because that's what He promises in His word when you take water and the word. It creates new life. Yes, we can walk away from that new life by not believing what God’s word says about Himself. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, and it's a gift, so no one will boast. We are born again by God's gracious act, not ours or our surrendering. That kind of faith has no fear because perfect love cast out all fear. 😂 What a glorious savior we have!!!
I just told the seeker of babtism. You should be able to teach on the subject before committing to it. You should follow the example and go on a 40 day fast to have a show down with the devil.
Great sermon, thank you. I would love to know the name of the Jewish man from the States that moved to Israel. He sounds a lot like someone I know.
in a nutshell,
Jesus says baptise in the name, of the father, the son and Holy Spirit.
Peter with the keys and revelation from God unlocks the name and from then every baptism in the new testament is in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
many many years later, as the army of the Lord ate the tree down, deception crept in and a falling away happened as was prophesied.
@Psalm 2:8-9 Oh, if you could see what you were doing. Repent and believe, that you might be saved from your sinfulness and that God's wrath upon you for it might be turned away.
@Psalm 2:8-9 go to revelations. you will see seven churches that typed seven church ages.
you will see how apostasy crept into the church gradually, starting as deception, then became doctrines of balaam, till the church had a name but not His name. eventually the church is blind naked and wretched, with Jesus on the outside knocking to be let in.
meanwhile Thessalonians tells us that someone else will be in the temple of God instead.
@Psalm 2:8-9 strawman argument. also an incorrect statement. that's contrary to old testament eg. jer 32:37-38 and the whole new testament
@Psalm 2:8-9 another strawman argument.
well, I guess since you cant refute the bible verses I am providing, you now have to make up some fiction scenario and attack that.
congratulations on attacking and slaying that strawman. the bible verses I supplied still stand in condemnation of you.
@Psalm 2:8-9 oh look another fallacy, attacking the person and not the argument.
guess you still cant refute the bible so instead you attacking my character.
good job.
I still don't see why sprinkle vs dunk deserves a sermon. Hebrews 6:1-2 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, INSTRUCTION ABOUT CLEANSING RITES, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.
Baptism is not a cleansing rite.
@@robertfishter2862 What do you suppose this particular section of scripture is talking about when it says "cleansing rite"? And how it is a foundation to our faith according to the context?
@Psalm 2:8-9 It was written to people who had faith in Christ. Why do you assume I am a gentile? What does anything you wrote have to do with this thread? Are you just the voice of Satan trying to troll conversations with irrelevant antagonism? I think you are.
@Psalm 2:8-9 You should change your title to Revelation 3:9.
Tertullian spoke against it around 220 A.D
Doesn't this mean it was a common practice? 🤔
Natural preacher under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 3:15:
“That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away.”
The “natural man” cannot grasp that, for to him reality is based only on the evidence of the senses. The man of reason could justify the verse’s end, saying if it has any meaning then the writer must mean recurrence. The sun comes every day and the moon completes its cycle and the seasons come and go. If we took a picture of the universe today, the scientists can compute how long it will take to return to this point in the picture. So the intellectual man could justify the verse; but that is not what is meant, for it is addressed not to the man of reason or the man of sense, but to the man of Imagination. What is it all about? “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been, and God seeks what has been driven away.”
Will these sermons be transcribed so I can study them?
Please do it for us
there should be a third party tool to auto transcribe it for you. Google such a thing, give it the youtube link and it should give you the subtitles in a transcript. Then watch once and clean it up then its good to study
How were 3000 people baptized in Jerusalem by immersion, where there is not much water?
@Scribeintheink what do you mean?
Does anyone have the list of 96 references to baptism in the NT that Dr White refers to? 📖 I’m hoping to look at them all, thank you
Remember only way to repent and be saved by Christ act 11 14-18, Luke 11:9-13 just follow only the original gospel tradition teaching not churches but Jesus will guide you personally to the end John 10:1-6, zeph 3:9!
What about the word "anabainō" and it being used for when Jesus came out of the water and for Phillip and the eunuch coming up out of the water? Phillip wasn't self baptizing but they both "came up out of" the water. So I don't think you can use the Greek word to prove immersion. And what does it mean for Jesus fulfilling all righteousness? Is it that being The Priest, He had to be sprinkled with water as the old testament required for priest?
And I'm reformed Baptist, so these are just questions I'm trying to work through, not trying to prove anything right or wrong at this point.
@Psalm 2:8-9 What is your issue with race and ethnicity? Scripture (which is God breathed 2 Timothy 3:16-17) clearly states Gal 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.
Galatians, which was written to Gentiles shows that God does not recognize one who is not Jewish, nor does He place one in higher place above another. In fact, he says those who come to know God, are all baptized into the body of Christ. Male, female, Jew, Gentile, black, white, yellow, and red. God is not concerned with pigment, nor lineage. He is concerned about the condition of the individual's soul. And graciously places us all in the body together. All people came from the same blood Acts 17:26, of which Christ died for all. I feel sorry for you psalms since you cannot see past the "social justice gospel" and the separate path to God without Christ.
@Psalm 2:8-9 What does the color of the "skin" of God have to do with anything? Abandon your scorning of those made in God's image, repent and believe.
@Psalm 2:8-9 And the color or the skin or ethnicity have nothing to do with being righteous and bold or wicked. Again, the Scriptures disagree with your race baiting gospel. No, Paul was not schizo just because you do not understand and practice eiesgesis when reading the Scriptures. Here are some verses that you really need to take a good look at. 2 Corinthians 1:21-22, Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians 4:30, and Romans chp 8 which shows that those who receive the indwelling Holy Spirit is the evidence that one is saved. He seals the individual (denoting ownership) and promised to all who will make Christ their Master. Acts 10 shows Gentiles receiving the Holy Spirit, with Peter admitting that the vision of the great sheet was indeed about GOD ACCEPTING THE GENTILES AND MAKING THEM CLEAN which Jews considered unclean in chp 11. Acts 11:17 clearly shows it to be the same thing as Pentecost with Peter declaring that God had given it to the Gentiles and granted Gentiles repentance THAT LEADS TO LIFE. Life here in this context is declared to be eternal life. Titus 3:4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared,
Tit 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
Tit 3:6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
Tit 3:7 so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Notice, Paul clearly speaks to Titus who is a Gentile with inclusion of being washed and regenerated by the Holy Spirit and included Christ as our (yours, mine, all in the church). The church in Crete (full of gentiles were included in this). Tit 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
Tit 2:12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and wo
rldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
Tit 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, Tit 2:14 who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.He says grace of God has appeared to BRING SALVATION TO ALL MEN (nowhere does he say to all Jews, or does he deny Gentiles). The majority of Paul's letters are written to Gentile churches admitting them to be saved individuals. No my friend. Paul is not being schizo, it is your preconceived racist ideas that you cannot get past. Your inability to understand Paul is not the benchmark of proper exegesis nor how we understand the message of the Glorious Gospel of Christ.
@Psalm 2:8-9 Woo boy. You really have no idea what you are talking about my friend. I have clearly posted New Testament Scripture that does not agree with your position. The copy paste job you refer to is my copying Scripture, not my answers. Yet I notice you just post your take on a verse, yet, no actual context or exegesis is given. Without taking proper context into consideration,, you can come up with any doctrine, which appears is what you have done. For example, you mention Romans 9:20-23 you say that God created you people to be destroyed. Nope, Paul does not say that at all. In fact, you totally missed verse 23 which you included----Rom 9:23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,
Notice, He says in the verses "What if", but then he goes to enduring with patience then so He could show mercy to these vessel, then in verse 24-----Rom 9:24 even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles.
Notice Paul includes those who are Gentiles WITH US (Paul and others who he is writing to who were Gentiles). Notice he says NOT JEWS ONLY, BUT ALSO AMONG GENTILES. Which goes along with his preaching to the people in Rome in Act 28:28 "Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles; they will also listen."
Paul does not agree with your racist doctrine my friend. The Scriptures have disproved your belief. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Notice, it says For God so love the world (the entirety of people). It does not say For God so loved only the Jews. Take care and I hope you see your error. I'll be praying for you. Good night.
Is there a list of the 96 references to baptism in the NT that anyone knows of?
Yeshua Ha Massiach (Jesus The Messiah). Who is He?
" For unto us a Child is born. Unto us a Son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. " Isaiah 9 : 6
Acts Chapter 4 verse 12: " There is no salvation through anyone else, nor is there any other name under heaven given to the human race by which we are to be saved."
Born of a virgin, Mary.
Matthew Chapter 1 verse 20: " behold, the angel of the Lord appeared to him (Joseph), in a dream and said, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for that (Christ)which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus, the Christ, is God's word made flesh. Jesus is Jehovah God's (The Creator's) Word made into flesh.
1 John chapter 5 verse 7: " For there are three that bear a record in heaven, The Father, The Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one."
John chapter 1 verse 1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John chapter 1 verse 14: " And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
John chapter 1 verse 10: " He was in the world, and the world knew Him not."
Hebrews chapter 4 verse 12: " For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
How beautiful and awesome is God's Word, who is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, magnificent in all His glory, is He.Amen!
John's Vision Of Christ Seated On His Throne In Heaven:
Revelation chapter 4 verse 2 to 3: " Immediately, I (John), was in the Spirit, and behold a throne sat in Heaven, and One sat on the throne. And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance, and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald."
Why did Christ Jesus came and sacrificed His precious life for sinners like us?
Christ (God's Word made into flesh), came because through flesh (Adam's flesh) sin entered the world, and then because of sin death entered the whole earth. Through flesh(Jesus Christ's flesh), the earth will be saved, sin is destroyed, and the curse of death shall be broken, death and the grave shall be cast into hell.
Christ, who is God's Word made into flesh, sacrificed His life for us. He was crucified for our sins and transgressions.
Christ died, and on the third day He resurrected in the flesh, conquering death and the grave. Now, Christ is seated in Heaven, at the right hand of Power(God). Through Christ's sacrifice we gain Salvation through God's abundant mercy and grace. We are reconciled and recompensed back to God, through the shed blood of His beloved Son Christ Jesus.
John chapter 3 verse 16: " For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that who ever believes in Him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life."
Romans chapter 5 verse 8: " But God demonstrates His love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
Christ came to undo the sin and eternal death brought upon the world through the sin of Adam.
Death in Adam, Life In Christ:
Romans chapter 5 verse 19: " For as by one man's disobedience(Adam), many were made sinners, so also by one Man's (Jesus)obedience, many will be made righteous."
Romans chapter 5 verse 18: " Therefore, as through one man's (Adam's) offense judgement came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even through one Man's (Christ's) righteous act, the free gift came to all men, resulting in the justification of life."
Romans chapter 5 verse 17: " For if by the one man's offense(Adam's offense), death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in the life through the One(Jesus Christ).
Romans chapter 5 verse 12: " Therefore, just as through one man (Adam)sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned."
Romans chapter 5 verse 21: " "So that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Do you now see that through Adam, sin and death entered the world, so that is why Christ Jesus came to give life, and give it more abundantly? Yes Christ came to give eternal life through Salvation.
Adam's flesh brought sin, death, destruction, and condemnation.
1 Corinthians 15 : 21-22, "For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ, all shall be made alive."
Christ's sacrifice, the crucifixtion of His flesh, brings reconciliation of sins, life, resurrection, eternal life, salvation
Christ is coming back again, not as a sacrificial lamb. He is coming back as a roaring, waring lion, to destroy sin, death, and the grave once and for all. Amen! Halleluyah!
Revelation chapter 22 verse 12 to 13: " And behold, I come quickly, and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. "
Now do you see friends, Why Christ Jesus is so so Important for our Salvation? Yes.
Now, do you understand why there is only one way to God, and that is only through Christ Jesus,only? Yes.
Christ is Salvation. Christ is our Lord and Saviour. Christ is the only way to God. Christ is the only Mediator between God and men(us humans).
God loves us so much, He does not want anyone to perish in hell. God wants all sinners to be saved. That is why He sent His Word to save the world. God's Word became flesh, and dwelt among us to save us.
Will you accept Christ and be saved?
Romans chapter 6 verse 23: " For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
John Chapter 3 verse 16: " For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that who ever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life."
Salvation is free!
Christ already paid the price, all you have to do is recieve salvation through acceptance of Jesus Christ, Yeshua Ha Massiach.
So who is Christ?
He is The Word Of God. He is the Son of God. He is God. He is the image of the unseen God. He is the Alpha and Omega. He is the beginning and the end. He is the Great I Am. He is Emmanuel. He is The Christ. He is The Messiah. He is The Creator. He is our Lord and Saviour. He is our Mediator. He is the Lion and the Lamb. He is Salvation. He is the way, the truth, and life.
Amen!
I love you Lord!
God created the heavens and the earth with His spoken Word. Did you know that Jesus is that Word, through which all things were created? Yes.
John chapter 14 verse 6: " Jesus said to him," I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Colassians chapter 1 verse 15 to 16:
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him."
John chapter 1 verse 1 to 4:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men."
I hope that you know Christ, and understand Christ better now,to the glory of God. Amen!
Christ is for all who will receive Him. Please pray this prayer with me.
Lord Jesus, thank You for dying for me. Please come into my heart. I accept You as my Lord and Savor. You are the Son of God. You are the Word of God. You are God. You are The Great I Am, the One who Was, who Is, and who Is To Come. I believe that You sacrificed Your life for me and died, and on the third day, You awoke, and raised up Your body in the flesh. I believe You are coming back in the flesh (in Your resurrected body). I believe Salvation is only through You. Forgive me Lord of my sins. I renounce and repent of all my sins, past and present, this day. I will sin no more, with Your help dear Lord, now and forever more. Please Lord: keep me in Your bossom. Heal me Oh Lord, help me. Be near me, and never let me go. Write my name in Your Book of Life. Prepare a place for me in Your Father's House. Please hear my prayer dear God, in Jesus mighty name, I pray. Amen!
May the Lord continue to be with you and strengthen you through any difficult journeys ahead.
***This is how our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, said we should pray.Matthew chapter 6 verse 9 to 13:
"Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name, Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors. And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen." ***
Now that you understand who Christ is, share Christ with others. Amen!
Repent of your sins. Sin No More!
Be baptized in Jesus Name.
Submit to Jehovah-God.
Love God with all your heart, mind, body, soul, and spirit.
Keep God's Commandments.
Love one another.
Forgive one another.
It is written, "resist the devil, submit to God, and the devil will flee from you."
Hate sin with all your heart, mind, body, soul, and spirit.
Spread the Gospel.
Acts 11 vs. 15 to 16, " And as I began to speak, The Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning. Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, "John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit."
Everybody go and speak the gospel with somebody today.
Bro I don't think this is actually useful
Acts 2:38
Psalm 2:8-9 are u a Hebrew Israelite?
Psalm 2:8-9 how do u know what I am?
Was Peter talking to infants or adults in Acts 2:38? Adults. This doesn't contradict infant baptism.
Acts 2:39 adds "For the promise is for you AND FOR YOUR CHILDREN..."
Infants are incapable of believing or repenting infant baptism is man made Doctrines those who qualify for baptism are those who repent and want to give there heart ❤️❤️ to Jesus and serve him
Watch Paul Lucas on water baptism. He clears a lot of confusion
I love you guys but yall are wrong on baptism... Bible says repent AND BE BAPTIZED for the forgiveness of sin and the gift of the Holy spirit.
Exactly! acts 22:16 ‘And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.’ Nkjv
Couple w James 2:14-26 faith, without works is dead.
The sinner on the cross must have went to hell then...
Baptize with water or with the Holy Spirit. What did John the Baptist say about what Jesus would do?
@@leviwilliams9601 the thief on the cross died before the new covenant baptism was instituted (described in Romans 6:3-4) which signifies union with Christ in his death, AND burial, AND resurrection. Those things had not all happened yet. The thief was not alive for the Great Commission, Pentecost, or any of the Epistles that mention new covenant baptism. Therefore he really shouldn’t be brought up as an objection when dealing with new covenant baptism
That's works salvation. Salvation is by faith alone. You are adding a ceremony and the works of a man to dunk you to get saved.
Romans 11:6 KJV
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
1 Corinthians 1:14-17 KJV
I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
The real gift of PROPHECY - not "preaching" - was active in Paul, also.
"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock,
over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers,
to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that AFTER my departing
shall grievous wolves ENTER IN among you, not sparing the flock.
Also, OF YOUR OWN SELVES shall men arise, speaking perverse things,
to draw away disciples after them.
Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years
I ceased not to WARN every one night and day with tears."
These words, as you know, preceded the Reformation by 1,500 years, Rome by 300.
does anyone know if his baptism sermons are on spotiffy?
These comments are just so weird… anyways, excellent content, Apologia!
I don't think I have never heard it preached, but I like to think that as John's Baptismal water flowed all over Jesus it found absolutely no sin anywhere, to be cleansed from, unlike all others whom John baptised. Therefore righteousness is fulfilled as he was shown to be the absolutely perfect sacrificial Lamb, then the heavens opened etc.
I think this comment is probably in wrong place? The old testament was being fulfilled, as the vehicle of Jesus work was through the Jews. After all, Salvation is of the Jews. Water has high degree of symbolism, even at the cross when Jesus body expelled both blood and water.
@Psalm 2:8-9 and even the little dogs feed from crumbs at the master's table, as shown when he momentarily healed the persistent gentile woman.
Roman's 9 v 6. It is not as though God's word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.
@Psalm 2:8-9 John 10:16, "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.". That's gentiles. Also the vine and the branches, grafted in. John 10 v 16. I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.
The Jews got tied up with the Law, tradition, etc as a religion, not as a vehicle to show God's view of seriousness of sin and to produce a Messiah. Faith is the Key, even shown in Genesis 15 by Abraham.
it comes down to what did jesus say?
Read what the Bible says God does in baptism. Then ask yourself can i be regenerated without what God wants to do in baptism for me
@Scribeintheink 1.. John the Baptist was prior to the New covenant established with Christ resurrection and ascension and sending of His Holy Spirit 2. I'm afraid the apostle Peter disagrees with you as does Paul and Jesus.
Read here please.
1 Peter 3:18-22
[18] For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. [19] After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits- [20] to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, [21] and this water symbolizes BAPTISM THAT NOW SAVES YOU also-not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. IT SAVES YOU BY THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST, [22] who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand-with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
Romans 6:1-4 NIV
[1] What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? [2] By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? [3] Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? [4] We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
Paul confirms Peter, Baptism is a death, burial, and resurrection with Christ Jesus. And here Paul explains it more in
Colossians 2:9-12 NIV
[9] For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, [10] and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority. [11] In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ, [12] having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.
When does that Spiritual circumcision happen? Putting off the whole body of flesh? Paul said for you where buried with him in...Baptism.
So you see if you want to hold to your false doctrine that permits your sins and does not acknowledge that Jesus died to free you from your sin nature... then you will die in your sins.
Matthew 7:21-23 NIV
[21] “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ [23] Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
All who continue in there evil will not inherit the Kingdom of God
Water baptism is a necessary aspect of salvation.
Interesting presentation! I am wondering if Dr.White has ever seriously discussed these theological topics with Dr.John MacArthur? Are they both essentially the same regarding the ordinances?
I don't even know what arguments he's making. So much of this is banter, experientialism and self promotion...
Baptism now saves you.
Context my dear boy. The thief on d cross was not baptised....or was he.
@@gordonreed2736 That doesn’t change the fact that baptism saves.
Yes it does not keep reading. It corresponds to the means of salvation...the ark. It now saves as not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good for a good conscience through the resurrection if Christ. Not only that but did the thief on d cross get baptised....no. If it saved why would Peter say to Simon who had just been baptised by Phillip that he was condemned for wanting to buy his own way in the kingdom.
@@gordonreed2736 Because that’s what he was trying to do. It doesn’t change the fact that “baptism now saves you”. It says what it says.
@@gordonreed2736 you asked if the thief was baptized.
Under John's baptism? We don't know, it was possible for "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins" (Mk.1:4-5).
Consider this, the thief knew enough about Jesus that he was innocent of any crime. His faith, he called him Lord, and his knowledge about the kingdom. The thief most definitely heard some preaching either by John or Jesus. He may have or not been baptized under John's baptism. To say he was or was not is speculation.
While Jesus walked this earth He had all authority to forgive sins directly.
As for Christs baptism under the NT? No, the thief was not baptized under Christ's Baptism. For Jesus did not give the commission his apostles to preach the gospel and baptize until 40 days after he ressurected. By this time the thief had been dead 43 days. To qualify for Christs baptism one has to first believe the gospel (DBR), the thieves witnessed the death of Jesus, not his burial nor ressurection.
One can not use the thief on the cross to dismiss baptism as a need for salvation.
How many baptisms are mentioned in the new testament and why was the disciples not recorded to be baptized before the cross?
@Psalm 2:8-9 Repent and believe.
@@samuelhaas4328 i am asking this question for people to find the contextual meaning of baptism.
I believe the book of acts has to be considered as a transitional record because of the power given to apostles to confirm the word was from God; made known by the power demonstrated in apostles transitioning unto the faith we put into the Word ( gospel/ message)to be saved and literally come to Jesus.
Basically, we have the Word now and the apostles have went onto be with the Lord.
Not separating the first fruits of the Holy Spirit with those that receive their message is where many are seeking signs and wonders rather than satisfied in Jesus alone according to Gods Word.
Gods Word is all the evidence you need.
A repentance to believe God unto salvation and then a continual repentance of sin living a life in Christ overcoming by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony of who and what our faith is in.
@@ProclaimeroftheGospelofJesus I was speaking to the one who has been divisive and appears to be a Black Hebrew Israelite, one who needs to repent and believe the Gospel. My apologies toward you.
@@samuelhaas4328 ahh the biblical ethnicity.... I thought ethnicity is biological.
@Psalm 2:8-9 Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
You must know the prophecy in Genesis and given to Abraham to understand this is those in Christ Jesus, not a biological related heirs.
Jesus was that seed of woman and 42 generations after Abraham stepped down out of heaven into the womb of a virgin promised to marry Joseph .
Matthew 1:1-17 begins the Gospel, "A record of the origin of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham: Abraham begot Isaac, ..." and continues on until "... Jacob begot Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
God made a covenant with Abraham as He did Moses.
We that are n Christ Jesus are of the Abrahamic covenant with God.
Our faith and belief in God imputes to us righteousness. God said He would provide the sacrifice. God sent His only begotten Son and we must believe God to believe in Jesus.
Genesis 3:13-15
King James Version
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The covenant between Abraham and God consisted of three separate parts: the promised land. the promise of the descendants. the promise of blessing and redemption to his seed that eventually ended at Jesus. Those that are in Christ are heirs of the seed of Abraham.
I have a better understanding of this whole thing and that is forget the water folks the baptism that we get is totally dry it’s called the baptism of the Holy Spirit one baptism for the body of Christ. End of discussion.
So, when Christ says to baptise in his great commission (followed up by explicit acts of water baptism in the NT by the Apostles), you say... don't? Do you see the issue here? Jesus says one thing, you say another. Which one will we follow?
@@Mic1904 Jesus also says toSpeak in tongues cast out devils take up serpents and drink deadly things do you do that also?
@@turkwelsch So you're advocating that water baptism was only to be performed by the Apostles and earliest church, and it's like you've added water baptism to your definition of cessationism?
Are there any of Jesus' commands that you think ARE relevant to us today and, if so, how have you defined which ones?
@@Mic1904 by your response I take it that you agree with me that somethings have ceased.
So when the apostle Paul says Jesus Christ didn’t send me to baptize but the preach the gospel that would be further evidence that water baptism was something that was done under the law of Moses and of course Paul says we are not under law but grace so I will leave it to you to figure out which of Jesus commands would still be for us today
@@turkwelsch None of that makes any consistent sense.
(1) Baptism was part of the law of Moses? Baptism (at least, that definition of Christian baptism found throughout the New Testament) is non-existent under the Law of Moses (yes, of course, I accept there are other ritual washings). Where is it in Moses' Law?
(2) If baptism is a part of the Law of Moses that is done away with, since we are under the Grace in the New Covenant, why did Christ commission it AFTER his death and resurrection and why did the Apostles do so? Why is an element of the Law of Moses only rearing its head during Jesus final earthly moments and then exists only through Acts and part of the Epistles?
(3) Saying you'll 'leave me to figure out which of Jesus commands would still be for us today', isn't answering the question. I asked *you* how *you* determine it? When he said repent and believe, was that the Law of Moses or Grace? When he commanded or preached anything to anyone, was it the Law of Moses, or Grace? How can anything that Jesus taught be considered under Grace, if his very last commission to his followers on earth (baptism) was part of the Law of Moses?
(4) Actually reading all of Paul's writings (and his actions in Acts) reveals that Paul already assumes the believers he is speaking to are already baptised, and bases important aspects of his Epistles on this fact. Converts through Paul's preaching are recorded as baptised as well. ""Many of the Corinthians hearing Paul believed and were baptized." Corinth being the place that the Corinthians verse you quoted was written to... Literally in the same passage, he's just talked about the people he's baptised (household of Stephanas), but that due to the quaralling and vain boasting of people using the status of their baptiser (such as an Apostle) as an arrogant badge of honor like a 'celebrity', he's glad to leave baptism to others and not give further rise to a cult of 'celebrity baptisms' from himself. He's glad and content that, rather, God has sent him to preach the Gospel, not be a celebrity baptiser. This is... literally right there on the page you just quoted from.
If John the Baptist needed to be at a river... living water. Then how come you can use a pond, cistern or childs wading pool? Couldn't he also use a cistern rather than drag the people all the way out into the desert?
Availability?
@@douglasmcnay644 The cistern is available in the village, the river is 'out there'.
One man , villages all around . Central location maybe.
Seriously if he had baptism in a pawn that would be unsanitary because John the baptism's have a lot of people to baptize. They had dirt on them. Some of them probably flesh wound baptizing about hundreds to thousands of people. That would be unsanitary The river have life is just washed everything away and new fresh water and the river sanitize its own self
When you talking about baptist and reformed churches, you should add that "in the US". Because for example in Hungary the Reformed (Calvinist) Church is the 2nd biggest denomination with 11.61% of the population belongs there (on paper), while the Baptist Church is a smaller church with 0.18%. Reformed church practices infant baptism just like the catholics. So many of the people who attends there do it as a religious practice, and don't have a personal relationship with Christ, in this area it is really similar to the Catholic church. There are pastors (both men and women can be pastors) who are not born again, they just do it as an occupation, maybe because their father and grand-father were reformed pastors. (There are great exceptions with great pastors and great lively reformed churches.) If you are in the reformed church and get baptized (in the way how you practice it), you will be most likely kicked out. In baptist churches, before you would be baptized, you need to go through a teaching series about the bases of the Faith, the Biblical teachings, in small groups lead by the pastor or 1 on 1 with the pastor (depend on how many people wants to get baptized) and during this proces pastors can get to know each person batter, and only born again christians will be baptized (as much as humanly possible to say who is really a born again).
@Psalm 2:8-9 No. Repent and believe the gospel, that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin according to prophesy, lived a perfect life, suffered God's wrath on the cross, died, was buried, rose up again on the third day, and returned to His Father, and who will come on the last day to mete out all judgement on evil--and this judgement may be abated if one will but believe in His name. Repent, for the kingdom of Heaven is near!
One view of Baptism makes God a covenant breaker, another one it proves God to be a covenant keeper.
Please expand
Explain
Unless you are confused on what the real covenant is.
No. It doesn't.
I find debates about denominations using scripture ironic since denominations aren't scriptural in the first place.
Neither is the RCC or Eastern Orthodox.
Denominations is a man made term, it’s used to describe doctrines of faith and what a group of people believe. Because people interpret the Bible differently we have different doctrines of faith and so we segregated and now have “denominations “ it’s a religious freedom . Without that we would all be Roman Catholics.
Are you going to address 1 For 15:29? This comes up sometimes when dealing with LDS members. How do you respond to them?
what needs addressed? it seems like just a verse stating getting baptised in order to sanctify or save a dead loved one doesn't work and does nothing because they are of the dead not the living..
The entire chp of 1 Cor 15 speaks on the necessity of the resurrection of Christ. If He be dead, you are most miserable and totally lost. Paul speaks of those who baptize for the dead, yet, he does not endorse or correct the actual act, but, those who do it without belief of the resurrection. 1Co 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? Notice, Paul does not stand with those who practice it by saying "what shall THEY do which are baptized for the dead", but then, we see Paul in verse 30 1Co 15:30 And why stand WE in jeopardy every hour? Notice the distinction between "they" and "we"?
The entire chp deals with the resurrection and how important it is. Christ not only promised that He would rise from the grave, and that He would go to prepare us a place and come back and raise the dead. His resurrection shows that He proved that He wasn't just talking. He is who He says He is. Without the resurrection of Christ, He was just a man who lied. If He could not raise Himself, then He definitely cannot raise us out of our graves.
@Psalm 2:8-9 You seem to be an exclusivist "black Israelite." Repent of your scorning and scoffing, and believe in Jesus the Christ, who came and is to come.
40:40 its must be rare to encounters jews who know the NT :) I poke fun.
I would've swum in the Jordan river if I was allowed. Instead I could just put my lower legs in and had a fish manicure. It was lovely.
@Psalm 2:8-9 You seem to be jealous about the salvation of the Gentiles. Paul pleaded for you to come to faith.
I don’t agree that Baptists and Presbyterians cannot be elders in a church together. Where is the biblical standard for that?
I don't see the practical means by which, (a) a Presbyterian who believes their Baptist brethren to be in sin for not performing their God-given duty to present their children for the covenant sign of God, and (b) a Baptist who believes their Presbyterian brethren to be in sin for outright neglecting to be baptized at all (by their definition), can join together in a church, when both believe that baptism is a significant part of defining WHAT and WHO the visible Church even is. That, and the fact that confessional Presbyterians and confessional Baptists take an oath to uphold different Confessions of Faith (WCF and LBC1689) - an oath is no small thing, and it's questionable how you can be holding to that oath to uphold your confession if you permit into eldership those who have taken an oath to uphold something contradictory.
Can we work together as brethren? Yes, not just 'can', but should! Worship together? In a number of contexts - certainly. Pray together? Surely. Love one another? By God's command, absolutely. But if we can't agree on an important principle of who and what defines what a member of the *visible* Church ought to be, how can you uphold and defend such an important doctrine as an elder alongside fellow office bearers who are defending and upholding a different definition?
It's a nice thought, and there is much space for us all to work together in Christian love, and we will all worship together as servants in the same heaven, by the same throne of the same King. But in practical terms, our doctrine doesn't allow us to be office bearers of the same congregations/churches, as I see it. God bless.
God bless you James White, what do you think about the Muslim that was almost killed Hatun Tash?
Phillip and the eunuch pops up on my mind. They both went into the water. I'm sure in the chariot they carry water, Phillip can just splashing on him. No they went down to the river
@Psalm 2:8-9 You're seeping contention to everyone here. Please stop.
I'd assume the water they were carrying was to make sure they didn't die of thirst and not something that would be wasted for a water ceremony. That they found a source where they could refill their water and perform baptism doesn't obviously speak one way or another about how the ceremony was performed.
That phrase is thrown around like a "what's the word I am looking for " Dear Lord! I just want to know this one thing! " How do I make right with God! How do I get into heaven and stay there? Which is the best church to be a part of? How do my loved ones get saved?
Sharon Hargraves simple tell yourself you are. It’s pretty much what Luther did
Sounds like folks dont love the Lord.
Jesus said that it you love Him you will keep His commandments, John 14:15
The disputes are because anabaptists decided they knew more than the Scriptures and the early church and started their own religion. James White fell for it.
@Scribeintheink They denied infant baptism because they denied scripture. Did infants exist in Asia Minor in the time of the Apostles. If you answer yes, then infant baptism is Biblical. If you answer no... I can't help you.
What was the all sorts of Messiah literature from the intertestamental period? Thanks
So, is baby baptism adding to God’s Word? The order of things is believe, follow in obedience God’s Word. I was baptized in my 30s even though I was a believer way before. It was not offered to me or explained that it was an obedience of faith to God in front of others. The Bible is very clear we don’t change his word in adding to it or taking away from it? Rev 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. ?
SHLM UHaB (peace & love). The Name of the Creator is Hayah asher Hayah, as what He told Mose (Exodus 3:14), preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures. There is a curse to the G-o-d name (Isaiah 65:11-12), preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures. All followers of the Messiah are to do the 7 appointed times (Leviticus 23), but no more animal sacrifices, following the Crucifixion of the Messiah. We are now of the order of MLK TSDQ (King, Righteous), to Whom ABRaHM tithed. Ask the Messiah to be your personal Savior, if you have not done so already. He is the Atoning Offering for mankind for the remission of sin ( 1 John 2:1-2). He said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me (John 14:6).
"All followers of the Messiah are to do the 7 appointed times"
That's going to salvation by works
"One person regards a certain day above the others, while someone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who observes a special day does so to the Lord; he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God." Romans 14:5-6
@@FelipeSxy01 I am not of G-o-d, but of Hayah asher Hayah. I am a Hebrew in the land of my exile until , as written in,Isaiah 11:11-16, the return (2nd world-wide Exodus). G-o-d is the cursed name (Isaiah 65:11-12), preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures. Allow me and my house to obey, doing the 7 appointed times. My reading of Shaul (his name was never changed), does not conflict with obedience to the earlier writings. I agree, as the Karaite Jew/Yahudi, that if a person reading the Scriptures understands differently, let them alone. I pray for the correct person and the incorrect one to be given the wisdom from Yah, in the Name of the Messiah.
@@FelipeSxy01 "By works..." is we cannot be saved by our works, but we are expected to do rightly, the statutes, teachings of the TURaH. So the Messiah said Himself if you love Me, obey. Obeying the Word is doing the Word. We are now of the order of MLK TSDQ (King, Righteous, Who is the Messiah, and told ABRaHM, "BRUK AL GLYUN. QNaH SHMYM UARTS." (Blessed be the Most High. Maker of heavens and earth.)
Dr. White, love you, but this was quite slow to the point and a loss of interest. Cut to the chase. It sounds like you’re debating yourself. Again, I love you as a teacher and brother in Christ but man I must have missed it because this was far too drawn out.
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I think his sermons are dry and fruitless. His mind cannot get out of the apologetic realm because that is where he gets his glory.
What was this building 25years ago?
@@pastorjeffdurbin8169 you troll every Christian channel I watch. Get a life!! 🙄
@@sally9352 Jeff Durbin DOESN'T KNOW ME‽ ..and, got 'revelations', like That! Lol
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There were over 3000 souls that were baptized for the forgiveness of sins in water after hearing the first gospel sermon. All through the book of Acts people were being baptized by the Apostles and Evangelicals. One thief on the cross was saved by Christ before the new covenant was in effect yet people would rather be saved like the thief and not by what is written in the book of Acts! No one can prove that the thief wasn’t baptized because the Bible doesn’t say whether he was or not. It’s strictly an assumption without biblical proof. John the Baptist baptized many during the life of the thief on the cross! It amazes me how people want to follow their own rules on salvation instead of what is written!
Dude. Cut to the chase...11min in and still no thesis
You need to watch a clip of a teaching series instead of watching entire teaching series. Don't complain, you saw the length of this video before watching it.
What did John mean by this statement?
So what really happened is that Peter, Paul and a few other guys were watching Mary Magdalene and her friends take their weekly baths in the river. After they left they saw Jesus and John up river and they were playing some kind of naked dunking game. So Peter says, "Hey, what are you guys doing?" Jesus and John were caught off guard so John says, "Oh... um.... I'm dunking Jesus in the river like that story we heard in school about Achilles. You know, make him immortal." So the guys kinda say, "Oh, ok, whatever." As they are walking away Peter says, "Those two are always playing grab ass somewhere while the rest of us men are spying on the ladies." Then Paul says, "That John guy is Batshit Crazy, and now he's playing some naked dunking game with Jesus. I mean.... not that there's anything wrong with that." So from then on they referred to John as "John the Batshit". Move ahead a few centuries, several different language translations of the story, and "Batshit" became "Baptist". So basically baptism is based on some Baptist, aka "Batshit", naked guys dunking each other in a river.
what is there to debate? take up your argument with Jesus and his apostles. stupid.
trust and obey, there is no other way. believe and be baptized. the simplicity of Christ.
“There’s only so many verses you’d be looking at (regarding baptism).” Welp, there’s the fruit of sola scriptura. Just read the Didache to see how the early Christians practiced baptism.
Is the Didache inspired? (A: no)
I'm weird too! I would considder myself as reformed pentacostal...
@Psalm 2:8-9 You need to reconsider the validity of your claim. Please stop.
@@samuelhaas4328 What's happening here?? Thank you brother!
People, Nobody was BAPTIZED in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the HOLY SCRIPTURES. ONLY IN ACTS 2:38 In the NAME of the Lord Jesus Christ. Go see. He is LYING. No Trinity either. Colossians 2:9
Y'all still using that wiccan symbol for your logo. 🤔🤔🤔 Whether it's a trinity knot or a wiccan symbol aren't we as Christians not supposed to create anything that defines the Godhead with symbolism or "man's device"??? Just sayin brothers Repent a little....
Acts 17:29-30 KJV
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. [30] And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Why are you using pagan Phoenician runes adapted by pagan Romans to criticize the symbol of the trinity?
this is silly. Matthew 28. Its a command from God to make disciples and then baptize them. If anyone is willing to study the bible and come to a full knowledge of the truth let me know !
The word disciple doesn’t actually exist in the original language of the verse but actually a verb that means to teach. When you actually get into details the command is to teach and baptize the nations which opens it up to interpretation but I think favors much of what we see in the early church
I'm Methodist... very close protestant denomination to Presbyterian.
Are y’all trinity believers?
I know very little about Methodists; do they structure themselves with a Presbyterian form of church government? I assumed they would be more independent or congressional, but your comment made me realize that I don't know.
@@beanteam2217 Assuming by Methodist the person meant United Methodist then yes, they believe in the Trinity (this is the only branch of the Methodist church I am personally familiar with but I suspect all branches are trinitarian).
Your not really reformed? Who cares what denomination your in for faith in Christ and reading scriptures is all that matter oh and yes Christians actually living the faith instead of talking about it read James I know a lot of Christians hate this chapter of the Bible 😹. Oh and this man is preaching from rivalry Paul also talks about those kinds of Christians. Don’t be sheep brothers and sister read the actual Bible instead of listening to a pastor.
So, you are a “man” telling us not to listen to men. That is a contradiction my friend. I would recommend listening to this very faithful pastor who knows a lot more than most people. Perhaps then you will not contradict yourself like this.
@Psalm 2:8-9 Repent and believe.
Thoughts on Balthasar Hubmaier? He wrote the most excellent work on believers baptism every written.
What's the name of the book?
@@TKOJOJO It is called "On the Christian Baptism of Believers"
@@bryanrendon6307 Thank you Sir
You don’t have to go outside the Bible for the best literature on baptism. You are simply looking for mans opinion in doing so. Man can be and has been wrong countless times over. The Bible is not wrong. One scripture does not discredit another. Have a heart to follow Gods word and this is a nonissue.
@Psalm 2:8-9 what do you want explained? What about those scriptures don’t you get?
Back up please what did John the Baptist mean when he said Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand? You people go so fast
He was talking to Israel to know the promise of the Messiah is here. Jesus, the Son of God is-here that was prophesied to save men from their sins. Jesus paid the debt of all sins.
Til that time-they lived under the condemnation of-the law and sacrificed animals for their sins.
Jesus came in grace and truth.
The law being perfect could only condemn people.
Jesus took the sin of the world upon Him, this love changes hearts and minds.
He was obedient in the sacrifice til death and remained dead for three days. God then resurrected Jesus from the dead approving our victory in Him over sin and death .
The perfect flesh He lived in was sacrificed by Jesus given His life in this flesh, His blood to cleanse us from all unrighteousness and sin.
God provided the last sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. His only begotten Son that never sinned and offered Himself a willing perfect sacrifice that never sinned in His flesh.
They were operating under the covenant God made with Moses.
John was telling them to change their mind( repent) because the kingdom of Heaven( Jesus ). Is here.
They thought the Messiah would come as a lion and destroy Rome their oppressor. They were not looking for the Messiah to come as a sacrificial Lamb of God first. Jesus will return as a Lion in judgment to all those that do-not receive Him and live in Him.
Repent is to turn from what you think which is unbelief and sin, and turn to God according to what He says and believe God.
He said to believe in Jesus to save you from your sins and give you peace with God. Siwe admit we have sinned against God and proclaim Jesus is our Lord and Savior. We confess our sins and He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. We then being made righteous get baptized in the name of Jesus as witness and testimony of us receiving His death , burial, and resurrection as our only righteousness to God.
Then we walk according to His Spirit and put off sin by overcoming through the blood of the Lamb. We then love one another as He has loved us. In love and sacrifice. In grace and truth. Forgiving one another as He has forgiven us.
We are given a Spirit of love, power, and-a sound mind. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit of God.
His Spirit-is in love in truth and deed. We do not operate according to the lust of flesh, lust of eyes, and pride of self. We operate according GodsWord and His love found in Jesus only.
This is a process of maturing being converted as a child in faith in God to believe in Jesus to overcome the world.
We supposed to submit to the authority of the church. How can we do so when those entrusted cannot even agree? You are supposed to be our shepherds? But you can't even agree. Makes no sense. It's all NONSENSE