Takes me back😊 I was about 12 when I learned to load these same shells used by my older brother, U.S. Marine. He had an S&W highway patrolman revolver. Different but similar tools and lube. This was in the early sixties. Thank you
The RCBS .38/.357 carbide die set comes with a spacer ring. This ring goes in between the press and the die. It makes up for the extra length of the .357 cases. You set your dies for .38 and when you load the .357 you insert the spacer ring under the flairing die as well as the seat/crimp die. No adjustments need to be made. This way both .38 and .357 can be loaded without constantly changing the set ups on your die set.
@saltyolbroad2962 - it’s a slow process but you can put the case in the case trimming chuck that’s attached to a drill and use a Brillo pad or steel wool. I’ve known some folks that use their dry tumbler with media to polish up corroded cartridges. I cannot support doing it that way because of liability reasons. Just passing on the information. No chemicals. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@k2defense Thanks for responding! they are just the projectiles; not a complete bullet. I just don't know the nomenclature. They're missing: powder, a jacket, and primer! That's why I figure I should just be able to "wash em off."
@saltyolbroad2962 - you should be able to tumble them without issue. I’d weigh and measure them to make sure you haven’t lost anything. You can always contact the manufacturer and they can give you some insight as well. They’re pretty good about responding to questions like that. 👍🏻
Been loading since 1968. To save time I purchased a separate seating/crimping die. Set one for seating the bullet and the other for crimping. The bullet you were using had a crimping grove in it and will generally be close enough for the AOL. When I started, I didn't have the funds to buy a separate set of dies for 38 Spl and 357Magnum. I had a friend make a round spacer (looked like a washer) that was .125-inch thick, which I placed under the dies when I mounted them in the press, so I only had to make minor changes to reset the dies. Worked great until I could afford as second set. .
Great input! Looking back now, I should have showed how to do the two step method as well. Looks like I’ll have to do another vid! 😂👍🏻 Thank you for your comment!
I have been reloading on the same setup for about 40 years, and thought the video did a great job, in an easy-to-understand process to safely reload. The RCBS dies I have also come with a spacer ring so that you can reload the 38 specials, then keeping the lock ring in place, back out the die, put the spacer ring, and screw the die back in and not have to go through the steps of measuring and adjusting; however, I typically do anyway just to be sure. this is definitely a perfect video for beginners to learn how to do it the safe way, because it's all about safety, and when you work with things that can go boom, it has to always be most important.
After making an adjustment to powder measure, I like to dump the first one and weigh the second. I've found it's more consistent and you know 100% what your putting in the brass
If you have the RCBS .38/.357 TC 18215 Die set, it comes with a .125" spacer. Set the resize die up for .38 spc. and if you want to resize .357 just pop in the spacer.
Just bought everything you have to reload 357 and 38spl I can’t wait to start!! I’ll be following step by step and readying my reloading book to make sure I don’t make any mistakes!
...excellent tutorial...I'll be loading .38/.357 for the first time very soon...I've been reloading off & on since 1974 but have only loaded .45ACP & 9mm, plus.5.56/.223, .76.2 x51 & .45-70...years ago I had separate, dedicated .38 & .357 steel RCBS dis but lost them 20 years ago this month and now have Lee dies that accept both cases...this makes everything clear...thanx
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I acquired a bunch of cast .38 bullets at an auction. They were various weights and styles, including 140 grain RN and 60 grain cylinders. I combined them in a two-bullet load, using load data for the British .38-200. Noticeable recoil and poor accuracy, but might be a good option for a bedroom gun.
@666toysoldier - I ran into similar issues at an auction. The accuracy was so poor I decided to melt them down and made my own. Worked much better for me liking. Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
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...this is hiw I learned to reload..in an RCBS Rockchucker in 1974 whrn I got back from Germany...I learned completely on my I own and losded 4 mag/spl fot my Smif mod 29..
A couple years ago I taught myself how to make gunpowder. Then I loaded some .38 special rounds with that black powder. They worked well but were not as powerful as smokeless yet very accurate. I didn't know how much powder to use but I just filled the case leaving enough room for bullet seating without crushing the powder.
@russellkeeling4387 - That is an interesting background on your reloading history. Thank you for sharing. I don't encourage people to reload like the way you described as there are obvious hazards associated with this type of reloading. Thank you for sharing your history with reloading with us.
...when I'm adjusting between powder throws I usually put back at least the first five - to give the powder measure time to settle down - before I weigh the first charge of that weight
...I always make dummy round before I seat/crimp the actual loaded round...then I electropencil the data on the case to make future loading of that particular bullet easier the next time...
@wadewilson524 - I would be hesitant to dry cleaning after priming. The main reason is the possibility of media obstructing the flash hole. I want to make sure the flash hole is wide open so the primer detonation can do its work with the powder. Others may disagree, but this is my preference. 👍
When I use plastic tipped bullets I like to do a two step process when bullet seating and crimping. I find the bullets don't always seat at the same dept because of the tip deforming. I probably need a fitting in my dye that conforms more closely with the bullet but 2 steps works.
@geonote1789 - my apologies. That has been the overwhelming response of my viewers. I have an editor now that will fix this going forward. Thank you for the comment. Really appreciate it. 👍🏻
@@k2defense thanks! Yeah I was going to get a Rossi 92 in .357 to compliment my daily carry of a Rock Island M206 .38 snubby, but I ended up getting a Kentucky flintlock instead. So now I am down the blackpowder rabbit hole...but probably next year I will get the Rossi and get on the .38/.357 train. I only purchase one gun a year. I highly suggest the flintlock. No primers or brass needed!
I had a question while loading and unloading my 38 special with live rounds one shell came out gunpowder went everywhere but the lead wadcutter remain in the wheel. I was able to remove the lead bullet NP, but I never had this happen before, either the lead was not firm on the shell? I did push the rod 2-3 times maybe I moved it to fast? The gun is a S&W, the bullets are Winchester 158 wadcutter +p. I bought the gun new back in 2021 all stainless, never be fired, only dry fire, and snap caps.
Hello! It sounds like, for whatever reason, you didn’t have enough crimp. In your wheel, you may not be able to tell, but there is a ridge. You can notice it with .38s when you try to put .357 round into it. I’m guessing that your crimp was light and when you loaded your firearm, the projectile was caught on this ridge. To fix this, give your ammo just a smidge more crimp. Let me know how it turns out. Hope this helps! Cheers! 👍🏻
@algoneby - don’t know if you’ve seen this before. Sizing Dies contain a long, tapered, insert that sizes the case down further than standard dies. We do this to create greater case mouth tension and decrease bullet setback. The result is a bullet that has a "coke bottle" or "wasp waisted" shape. This is a perfectly normal result with our dies and will be more or less pronounced depending upon bullet selection, case mouth flare during loading, and the amount of crimp applied to the finished cartridge. (Dillion Precision Reloading 2023) Hope this helps! Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
just bought henry 357 rifle. shells cost .70 cents round and I allready have RCBS press from the 70s. I might look into getting dies. Will the dies pay for themselves ?
Hi Cathy! I have the same rifle. Love it! Congratulations on your new purchase! You’ll be able to use .38 and .357 so it’s a win win. If you already have everything else besides the dies, then the answer is yes. If you’re into casting projectiles, even more of a cost savings. I have my own recipe that I like using. I notice with the Big Boy if the cartridges are too hot, it will heat that heavy barrel up quickly and your accuracy will diminish quickly. I run loads that are a bit mild yet still perform very well and don’t heat the barrel as quickly. I’d say, go for it! Hope this helps! 👍🏻
Hello Wolf Dogg! Here is the scale that I use in most of my videos. It’s reliable and not too expensive. Hope this help! Thanks for the question! a.co/d/7FHc9ur
Good video. Question though, why don't you use cam-over with carbide? I've been doing it for a little over 30 years now and am just curious and always out to learn new things
@steel440 carbide dies can break if you cam over. There’s a carbide insert that could crack. Typical rule of thumb is to only cam over on steel dies. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@k2defense Ahh, got it! Thank you. Maybe I didn't notice because I never used very much cam over on pistol dies. Now that I know I'll readjust my resizing dies
One habit that I have done when loading a new bullet, I load 2 or 3 dummy rounds at the depth I need and then use those rounds to set the seating stem. I know it waste two or three bullets, but I end up keeping a kinda filing cabinet of these bullets, should I use that particular bullet again. just a weird habit.
@a.r4316 - The typical rule of thumb is that regular primers in normal reloading and magnum primers for compressed loads, slow burning powders, and large case volumes, in order to ensure proper ignition of the powder. Magnum primers also are more reliable in colder weather. You could use magnum primers if that's all you have available but you should drop your powder charge by 10%. I don't take any responsibility for that advice but I have used them in that manner in a pinch. Hope this helps.
@joniasikainen9925 - Here are a few things you can check. 1) Is your COAL the appropriate length? 2) If you are using carbide dies, run the ram (with shell holder in the ram) all the way up to the top. Screw your die down so it just touches the shell holder. Back it up just enough so it doesn't touch. Then resize your brass. 3) Are you crimping or under crimping? Apply the crimp as recommended by the manufacturer. 4) have you trimmed your cases to the appropriate length? Try this and if you are still having issues, let me know and we can dive deeper into things.
@scottphillips7355 - short answer, yes. If it is too short you can have head space issues. You can always check by using a sharpie and mark your ammo and move it around in the chamber. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense My pop passed ten years ago, Gave me a model 66-2 2 1/2 inch stainless 357/38, A new model Blackhak 357. A Marlin lever action 357 and a couple thousand rounds of target ammo, And some self defense loads, Shot through about half of it. Anyway been saving all my brass and was wondering if it would be cheaper to reload or just buy new? But after seeing how much is involved I will most likely buy new!!!!
@bushcrafter6416 - your pop gave you something special, that’s for sure! Enjoy it! You never know, maybe someday you’ll take up reloading. It’s another world when you dive into it. 👍🏻
Hi I just got into reloading how much powder for 357 magnum 158 grain bullet in a video i saw 3.6 grains but its quite light load so you reloaded 38 here yes
@mikri9953 - yes, I was loading .38 Special in this video. For illustration purposes, I used a lower powder throw. My suggestion is to make five of each that the book suggests and chronograph each one. This will give you a good idea of what your firearm can handle and how accurate it works. Hope that explains my rationale. Let me know if you need anything else! 👍🏻
Hello frank browning! Thanks for the positive feedback! I bought the wrench years ago when I bought the locking rings. Brownells has them in stock from time-to-time. Check out their website! www.brownells.com/reloading/reloading-dies/replacement-parts-upgrades/die-locking-ring-wrench-prod55250.aspx?DSA&msclkid=bab4e9fce322155d1da28a8a5af75d6b&Products
This seem like a lot of work for a bullet I can buy new for 60 to 70 cents....What was the cost for the powder and lead? Some one please reply I have been thinking about getting into reloading.
This is the nice thing about reloading. A friend of mine gifted me a ton of lead ingot. I’ll be making projectiles for the rest of my life and I’m pretty sure my grandchildren will have enough as well. The powder I purchased years ago after Sandy Hook knowing that things would get ugly. I’ve got enough of that to last a lifetime as well. It’s all about dollar cost averaging and how much you shoot. If you’re a real conservative you’ll have the ability to plink away for a long time for a reasonable cost (not including equipment). If you’re a casual plinker I’d probably suggest saving the money on upfront equipment costs and powder, primers, etc and buying ammo in bulk and call it good. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
I will not use Unique powder. It is very dirty burning power. Instead of using a RCBS Rock chucker press I prefer the Dillion 550 Press. It throws out a fully reloaded round with each pull of the handle
Hi Ben! I’ve heard of others say the same about Unique. Early on in my reloading days I had a squib load. I was plinking with my father-in-law and doing rapid fire with my revolver. After the second shot, the third didn’t go bang. Thinking it was a bad primer I started advancing the wheel to the next round. My father-in-law stopped me right away. He said, “let me check something”. Sure enough he showed me the empty case and the projectile in the barrel. Ever since then, when I charge the case with powder, I check with a flash light to make sure all cases have powder in them. I guess this is my big hang up not purchasing a progressive press. I know it seems silly but it still scares the heck out of me since my ammo is used by family members. I’m probably just a bit neurotic. 😂 I do love the idea of pumping out a ton of rounds in a short period of time with the amount that I shoot. Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
@joniasikainen9925 - I do not lube my shells since it is a straight walled case and my dies are carbide. You have your die set incorrectly. Watch this video. Different caliber but same set up. If that doesn't fix it, let me know and we'll work through it together. 👍 ua-cam.com/video/XaTmluSL4Ls/v-deo.htmlsi=xfs4fRzX1MoiWvQQ
I think you have it set too deep, meaning the die is too low then trying to expand at the same time is causing the case to wrap around the expander plug. Back out the die a bit and lower just the expander plug. Hope this makes sense. 👍🏻
Michael Gavioli - I would turn the die down in small increments until you get the results you desire. I can’t say a half turn is enough or not enough. Too many variables. Check out this video as well. 👍🏻 ua-cam.com/video/diLgHfozgbA/v-deo.html
Thebluesrockers- since I reuse my brass, make my own projectiles, the only real cost is primers and powder. So roughly 20-25 cents a round. This is all dependent on availability of both and if I can get them at a good deal or not. Hope this helps!
@@thebluesrockers the price of primers will run you 10-15 cents per round. Powder will depend on how much you spend for a point and how much you use. There’s 7000 grains per pound. If you buy a pound for $35 it will cost you .005 cents per grain. So it all depends on how many grains you use per load. If you’re using lead, that cost could be anything. All my lead I’ve salvaged and melted so the cost per round is basically just the cost of my time to make each projectile. Prices for store bought vary. Let’s say 30 cents per projectile. There are too many variables for me to say it should cost you a specific amount of money per round based of the info I’ve supplied. I hope this helps you and doesn’t make things more confusing. The big take away with reloading is that it save you money over time after the initial investment. You’ll hear varying opinions on this point. But for me and the amount that I shoot, I save money. Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@k2defense So basically if I bought everything like primers, lead round nose, and powder, I'd be out like $0.35 to $0.40 a round to make 158 gr. re-loads. does that sound about right? If I also bought the bullet casings I'd probably be out around $.042--$0.46 a round. Does that sound about Right?
@@thebluesrockers you’ll find that it is variable and pricing fluctuate. That’s why I always dislike giving firm yes or no answers with specific cost questions. Loosely speaking, I think you’re in the right ballpark. 👍🏻
If you wanted 38 special and 357 rounds for use in a 357 gun, is there any reason to use different brass? Meaning, what if you made a bunch of 357 rounds, but simply altered how much powder and nothing else?
Not Affiliated - knowing you can shoot .38 in both calibers and you can only shoot .357 in .357. I’m guessing you are wanting a standard load set for both. I would encourage you to cross reference the load data for both and see if there is an axial point between the two calibers. My first thought is that you would have one undercharged while the other one adequately charged. Hope that made sense. I cannot commit to any specific load data for liability reasons. But I would encourage you to look at the different load data and see if there’s something that could work for both while still maintaining good groups. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense I am in the research stage and that does help so thank you! I'm new to firearms and what I want to do is get a .357 revolver and make my own bullets and start them out real weak and make stronger charges as I get better. I don't want to buy a .22 and then a .38 and then a .357 and son on. I want to get really really good and just the one gun and graduate to stronger bullets instead of bigger guns. I only have room in my life for one gun and maybe a backup piece. I am nomadic and virtually homeless besides my parents house that I visit 6 times a year. I figure I could make bullets whenever I am "home". I've avoided firearms my whole life and now I'm making up for lost time, I guess you could say.
I have to wonder why you removed the crimp dye after you seated the bullets. All you need to do is back off the seater plug and turn the crimp die in until you have the desired crimp. The crimp dye was already set at the case mouth.
IMHO... you'll never get an instant accurate adjustment out of your powder drop, if you don't cycle the handle about 5+ times before taking a measurement. Just an observation.
100% agree! I know I don’t show this but I pour the powder in the thrower, cycle it five times (just like you said) weigh, then repeat to double check. Once set, I’ll spot check powder throws randomly to make sure it hasn’t moved up or down. They are not the most accurate for consistent powder throws. If I’m really worried about it, I’ll measure each throw. Great comment! 👍🏻
@guccivanilla3691 - in short my recommendation is to crimp cannelure and no crimp with no cannelure. Now, there are many variables in between. For me to keep it simple, this is an easy way to remember. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
I like your vids... thanks. What happens when I put 6.4 grains of hp-38 in a 38 special case? (140 gr bullet) That's the shown load for 357. I mean, I mean... what does case length matter in this case since it is the same caliber? Am I crazy?
@jdodson1297 - if you use that load data for .38 special, in a .38 special, your pistol will need to be able to handle +p loads. It might be possible under those circumstances but you’d need to work up a load using the appropriate load data. As far as the cartridge overall length, you’d need to use the recommended length for the .38 special. I would not recommend deviating from that. Knowing you can shoot .38 special in .357 magnum platforms, you’d still want to use the COL and load data for the .38 special ammo. My biggest concern if you deviate and the ammo is used in a .38 special platform, it could be catastrophic. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense yes, shooting in a 357 pistol for sure so no worries there. And yes, COL all to spec. Just wondering what the difference really is between 357 and 38 besides case length and powder load. In theory, couldn't I use a higher powder load that would be equivalent to a 357 but in a 38 special case?
@jdodson1297 - you’ll have pressure differences that could be dangerous. Curious as to why you want to do this? I’m guessing so you can have a standard load for both cartridges? Personally, I have my favorite recipe for each and I just stick to that. On a side note, for liability reasons, I can’t elaborate on wildcat load data. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
Tactical BT - the process is identical. The main reason I find it easier to reload rather than 9mm is that the cases are longer and easier for my big fingers to handle. All kidding aside it is a fun caliber to reload and the steps to reloading are identical to the 9mm. One variable that I’ve notice is the the 9mm range brass might have a crimp to remove whereas I’ve never seen a crimp in this caliber. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense thank you!!! I mainly shoot 9mm in pistol mainly for cost but if I can learn to reload 38/357 n start on it n it really saves me money guess I’m switching to revolvers lol
The lee hand loader is the simplest way to begin reloading, I'm fairly new at it myself, .....and I chose the 38/357.... Economically wise its very cheep.
@snova8033 - apologize for the hand interference. Going to do things differently going forward so I appreciate your feedback. I hope you were able to gain helpful information from the rest of the video. 👍🏻
Finally, someone made a training veido suitable for beginners! Step-by-step for beginners and did not rush through it. Thank you!
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Takes me back😊 I was about 12 when I learned to load these same shells used by my older brother, U.S. Marine. He had an S&W highway patrolman revolver. Different but similar tools and lube. This was in the early sixties. Thank you
The RCBS .38/.357 carbide die set comes with a spacer ring. This ring goes in between the press and the die. It makes up for the extra length of the .357 cases. You set your dies for .38 and when you load the .357 you insert the spacer ring under the flairing die as well as the seat/crimp die. No adjustments need to be made. This way both .38 and .357 can be loaded without constantly changing the set ups on your die set.
Thanks for that information! 👍🏻
THE BEST end-to-end demonstration on the net. Thanks for educating us.
@MrJH1959 - appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
Been reloading for 25 years. This video is the best there is. Thank you sir
Gary Furman - thanks for the accolades! Appreciate the comment!
Can you tell me how to get mold off the bullet. Just the bullet. Not in any casing. The projectile. Like, can I wash 'em in some dawn?
@saltyolbroad2962 - it’s a slow process but you can put the case in the case trimming chuck that’s attached to a drill and use a Brillo pad or steel wool. I’ve known some folks that use their dry tumbler with media to polish up corroded cartridges. I cannot support doing it that way because of liability reasons. Just passing on the information. No chemicals. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@k2defense Thanks for responding! they are just the projectiles; not a complete bullet. I just don't know the nomenclature. They're missing: powder, a jacket, and primer! That's why I figure I should just be able to "wash em off."
@saltyolbroad2962 - you should be able to tumble them without issue. I’d weigh and measure them to make sure you haven’t lost anything. You can always contact the manufacturer and they can give you some insight as well. They’re pretty good about responding to questions like that. 👍🏻
I'm not a beginner, though I still bookmark this video as a refresher. Thanks for making such an excellent 357 reloading guide!
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍🏻
Thanks to you I’ve loaded thousands of rounds flawlessly. Thank you a lot!
Nice work!
Been loading since 1968. To save time I purchased a separate seating/crimping die. Set one for seating the bullet and the other for crimping. The bullet you were using had a crimping grove in it and will generally be close enough for the AOL. When I started, I didn't have the funds to buy a separate set of dies for 38 Spl and 357Magnum. I had a friend make a round spacer (looked like a washer) that was .125-inch thick, which I placed under the dies when I mounted them in the press, so I only had to make minor changes to reset the dies. Worked great until I could afford as second set.
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Great input! Looking back now, I should have showed how to do the two step method as well. Looks like I’ll have to do another vid! 😂👍🏻
Thank you for your comment!
Thanks. Reloading .38 and .357 Mag ammo is on my to-do list for 2023.
I have been reloading on the same setup for about 40 years, and thought the video did a great job, in an easy-to-understand process to safely reload.
The RCBS dies I have also come with a spacer ring so that you can reload the 38 specials, then keeping the lock ring in place, back out the die, put the spacer ring, and screw the die back in and not have to go through the steps of measuring and adjusting; however, I typically do anyway just to be sure.
this is definitely a perfect video for beginners to learn how to do it the safe way, because it's all about safety, and when you work with things that can go boom, it has to always be most important.
@jimhartline4814 - I really appreciate your comment! Thanks! 👍🏻
After making an adjustment to powder measure, I like to dump the first one and weigh the second. I've found it's more consistent and you know 100% what your putting in the brass
@garageliving3658 - that’s awesome! I’ll have to try it out! Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
GREAT detail in info for someone like me who is jsut beginning to consider reloading.
Thanks!
Glad the video was helpful! 👍🏻
If you have the RCBS .38/.357 TC 18215 Die set, it comes with a .125" spacer. Set the resize die up for .38 spc. and if you want to resize .357 just pop in the spacer.
Jim - thank you for that additional information. Really appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
You're welcome. Great video.
Just bought everything you have to reload 357 and 38spl I can’t wait to start!! I’ll be following step by step and readying my reloading book to make sure I don’t make any mistakes!
@pure0wn401 - have fun reloading! 👍🏻
...excellent tutorial...I'll be loading .38/.357 for the first time very soon...I've been reloading off & on since 1974 but have only loaded .45ACP & 9mm, plus.5.56/.223, .76.2 x51 & .45-70...years ago I had separate, dedicated .38 & .357 steel RCBS dis but lost them 20 years ago this month and now have Lee dies that accept both cases...this makes everything clear...thanx
Great tutorial on 38 Special set-ups. I've loaded 10s of thousands of 40cal but now I just prepped 100 cases and loaded just 6 38S 200g for testing.
Nice work!
A 200 grain bullet in 38 special? WTF, over?
@@edwardmauch2918 it's a real RUSH!!!
That leaf spring to push the cases/cartridges out of the shell holder at the bottom of the stroke is genius.
Yeah we need some details
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Thank you! I was really struggling and your tutorial solved my problem. Much appreciated.
Glad it helped! 👍🏻
I haven't reloaded for 40 years, and wanted a good refresher. Fantastic job! Thank you. Now if I can find primers...haha
@pmdinaz - welcome back to reloading! Primers are out there, just more expensive than we’ve ever seen.
Just wanted to thank you for all your amazing work and sharing your knowledge!
@125varma - appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
I acquired a bunch of cast .38 bullets at an auction. They were various weights and styles, including 140 grain RN and 60 grain cylinders. I combined them in a two-bullet load, using load data for the British .38-200. Noticeable recoil and poor accuracy, but might be a good option for a bedroom gun.
@666toysoldier - I ran into similar issues at an auction. The accuracy was so poor I decided to melt them down and made my own. Worked much better for me liking. Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
Thes were sized and sorted by the half-grain. @@k2defense
Excellent video, thank you. Even though I use different dies everything you said translates 100%. Thanks again and Merry Christmas!
Hello @seanwattles9264,
Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed the video! Merry Christmas to you as well!
I love reloading 38 special for my suppressed handi rifle its quieter than a bb gun 3.3 grains of w231 and a 148 wadcutter is nearly silent.
Thank you for making this informative video. I learned a lot from you!
@willcravens2893 - appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
This was a very helpful video. Thank you
Where did you get the case ejector? Great video
@thecainer64 - InLine Fabrication. I’ll drop the website at the end. Say “hello” to Dan and his crew for me. They make amazing products that last a lifetime. The products are built solid and makes things easier when reloading. 👍🏻
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simple teaching, right to the core
Unfortunately Mortal - appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
...this is hiw I learned to reload..in an RCBS Rockchucker in 1974 whrn I got back from Germany...I learned completely on my I own and losded 4 mag/spl fot my Smif mod 29..
Love stories like yours! 👍🏻
What a fantastic video! Time for me to start that little hobby!
Thanks for the feedback! 👍🏻
A couple years ago I taught myself how to make gunpowder. Then I loaded some .38 special rounds with that black powder. They worked well but were not as powerful as smokeless yet very accurate. I didn't know how much powder to use but I just filled the case leaving enough room for bullet seating without crushing the powder.
@russellkeeling4387 - That is an interesting background on your reloading history. Thank you for sharing. I don't encourage people to reload like the way you described as there are obvious hazards associated with this type of reloading. Thank you for sharing your history with reloading with us.
...when I'm adjusting between powder throws I usually put back at least the first five - to give the powder measure time to settle down - before I weigh the first charge of that weight
Great advice! Thanks for sharing! 👍🏻
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Reloading rookie question… what is the advantage / disadvantage of the crimp?
Hello - there is a chance that if you over crimp you’ll have over pressures. Otherwise, I crimp everything. 👍🏻
These videos are the best!!
@aacrider - appreciate the comment! 👍
Great instructional video. Thank you Sir.
I needed this video to finish my loads 38 spl
@davidemley6116 - glad to hear this video was helpful! 👍🏻
As much as RCBS makes good presses, I prefer LEE dies, presses and other tooling. That might be a side efffect of always loading for semi-automatis.
...I always make dummy round before I seat/crimp the actual loaded round...then I electropencil the data on the case to make future loading of that particular bullet easier the next time...
This is perfect knowledge to share! Thank you! 👍🏻
I've had no "high primers" since I deprimed before cleaning.
@johnwax9759 - that’s awesome! Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
Thank you very much great video for beginners. Keep it up!
@filipkovacec5759 - appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
Hello! Thanks for an awesome video. Question: does it matter if the shells are cleaned before or after priming?
@wadewilson524 - I would be hesitant to dry cleaning after priming. The main reason is the possibility of media obstructing the flash hole. I want to make sure the flash hole is wide open so the primer detonation can do its work with the powder. Others may disagree, but this is my preference. 👍
When I use plastic tipped bullets I like to do a two step process when bullet seating and crimping. I find the bullets don't always seat at the same dept because of the tip deforming. I probably need a fitting in my dye that conforms more closely with the bullet but 2 steps works.
Great "point". 👍
Nice overview. I do hate the opening & closing gunshots ... set at 3X volume.
@geonote1789 - my apologies. That has been the overwhelming response of my viewers. I have an editor now that will fix this going forward. Thank you for the comment. Really appreciate it. 👍🏻
Thanks for the great video. I've been using the Lee Loader hand tools for .38 Special and thinking about improving my reloading. This really helped.
Really glad this video helped!
@@k2defense thanks! Yeah I was going to get a Rossi 92 in .357 to compliment my daily carry of a Rock Island M206 .38 snubby, but I ended up getting a Kentucky flintlock instead. So now I am down the blackpowder rabbit hole...but probably next year I will get the Rossi and get on the .38/.357 train. I only purchase one gun a year. I highly suggest the flintlock. No primers or brass needed!
@@jeffersoncarlisle3125 I haven’t gone down that rabbit whole yet, but I suppose I will at some point! 😂👍🏻
I had a question while loading and unloading my 38 special with live rounds one shell came out gunpowder went everywhere but the lead wadcutter remain in the wheel. I was able to remove the lead bullet NP, but I never had this happen before, either the lead was not firm on the shell? I did push the rod 2-3 times maybe I moved it to fast? The gun is a S&W, the bullets are Winchester 158 wadcutter +p. I bought the gun new back in 2021 all stainless, never be fired, only dry fire, and snap caps.
Hello! It sounds like, for whatever reason, you didn’t have enough crimp. In your wheel, you may not be able to tell, but there is a ridge. You can notice it with .38s when you try to put .357 round into it. I’m guessing that your crimp was light and when you loaded your firearm, the projectile was caught on this ridge. To fix this, give your ammo just a smidge more crimp. Let me know how it turns out. Hope this helps! Cheers! 👍🏻
I always have an issue with the case being too fat where the bullet is pushed in.
@algoneby - don’t know if you’ve seen this before.
Sizing Dies contain a long, tapered, insert that sizes the case down further than standard dies. We do this to create greater case mouth tension and decrease bullet setback. The result is a bullet that has a "coke bottle" or "wasp waisted" shape.
This is a perfectly normal result with our dies and will be more or less pronounced depending upon bullet selection, case mouth flare during loading, and the amount of crimp applied to the finished cartridge. (Dillion Precision Reloading 2023) Hope this helps! Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
Thanks for taking the time to explain.
@@algoneby- absolutely! It used to drive me nuts until I found this information from Dillon. 👍🏻
just bought henry 357 rifle. shells cost .70 cents round and I allready have RCBS press from the 70s. I might look into getting dies. Will the dies pay for themselves ?
Hi Cathy! I have the same rifle. Love it! Congratulations on your new purchase! You’ll be able to use .38 and .357 so it’s a win win. If you already have everything else besides the dies, then the answer is yes. If you’re into casting projectiles, even more of a cost savings. I have my own recipe that I like using. I notice with the Big Boy if the cartridges are too hot, it will heat that heavy barrel up quickly and your accuracy will diminish quickly. I run loads that are a bit mild yet still perform very well and don’t heat the barrel as quickly. I’d say, go for it! Hope this helps! 👍🏻
Great video. Good information. Thank you. Can you recommend a good digital scale for the powder measurements?
Hello Wolf Dogg!
Here is the scale that I use in most of my videos. It’s reliable and not too expensive.
Hope this help! Thanks for the question!
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Dude this was a great video thanks a lot for your help!
Appreciate the feedback! 👍🏻
Get yourself some LNL bushings. A quarter turn and the dies come out.
Rookie here ! What’s the difference in the options of crimping and not crimping ? Do I need to ? Shooting out of pistol
Hello! Yes, I apply a crimp on all pistol rounds. Some more than others depending on what I’m using for projectiles and pressures. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense thank you ! And thank you for your videos they are very informative
@@frankiemedina4258 - glad you find the helpful! 👍🏻
Well presented! Thanks!
Great video!!! Thanks for sharing
@johnvoelker8227 - glad to hear you found this video helpful! Thank you for the comment! 👍🏻
Inclined fabrication is now as popular amongst us as RCBS
Good video. Question though, why don't you use cam-over with carbide? I've been doing it for a little over 30 years now and am just curious and always out to learn new things
@steel440 carbide dies can break if you cam over. There’s a carbide insert that could crack. Typical rule of thumb is to only cam over on steel dies. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@k2defense Ahh, got it! Thank you. Maybe I didn't notice because I never used very much cam over on pistol dies. Now that I know I'll readjust my resizing dies
@steel440 awesome! Glad I could help! 👍🏻
One habit that I have done when loading a new bullet, I load 2 or 3 dummy rounds at the depth I need and then use those rounds to set the seating stem. I know it waste two or three bullets, but I end up keeping a kinda filing cabinet of these bullets, should I use that particular bullet again. just a weird habit.
@Espi68One - great tip! Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
For reloads what primer is meant to be used? Traditional small pistol primers or magnum pistol primers? Thanks in advance
@a.r4316 - The typical rule of thumb is that regular primers in normal reloading and magnum primers for compressed loads, slow burning powders, and large case volumes, in order to ensure proper ignition of the powder. Magnum primers also are more reliable in colder weather. You could use magnum primers if that's all you have available but you should drop your powder charge by 10%. I don't take any responsibility for that advice but I have used them in that manner in a pinch. Hope this helps.
parfait et pédagogique....très bonne méthode, je m'abonne
@Arnauddefrance - thank you and welcome to the channel! 👍🏻
Hi what if the bullet expands the shell and it wont fit revolvers chamber to the bottom.
@joniasikainen9925 - Here are a few things you can check. 1) Is your COAL the appropriate length? 2) If you are using carbide dies, run the ram (with shell holder in the ram) all the way up to the top. Screw your die down so it just touches the shell holder. Back it up just enough so it doesn't touch. Then resize your brass. 3) Are you crimping or under crimping? Apply the crimp as recommended by the manufacturer. 4) have you trimmed your cases to the appropriate length? Try this and if you are still having issues, let me know and we can dive deeper into things.
You need to back the Carbide die off a little or you can damage the carbide ring!
Good video. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks, you too!
great info K2 thanks for sharing
You bet @tacticalfudd4240 !
Thank you. Very intresting. Regards
@parsanan - thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
I have a problem with my brass not fitting flush with the cylinder.
@Iron_Road - are you able to turn your resizing die down further? Also, do you trim your brass?
Where did you find the spring finger to bump the case out of the shell holder? Thanks!!
Hello @sbcclydesdale3275!
You can order it here:
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Hope this helps!
Can the overall cartridge length be shorter than 1.455? I measured some factory ammo as a gauge and it was slightly less.
@scottphillips7355 - short answer, yes. If it is too short you can have head space issues. You can always check by using a sharpie and mark your ammo and move it around in the chamber. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
Thanks bro, I want a simple reloader just like yours!!!! Thanks.
@bushcrafter6416 - what are you currently using or are you just getting into reloading?
@@k2defense My pop passed ten years ago, Gave me a model 66-2 2 1/2 inch stainless 357/38, A new model Blackhak 357. A Marlin lever action 357 and a couple thousand rounds of target ammo, And some self defense loads, Shot through about half of it. Anyway been saving all my brass and was wondering if it would be cheaper to reload or just buy new? But after seeing how much is involved I will most likely buy new!!!!
@bushcrafter6416 - your pop gave you something special, that’s for sure! Enjoy it! You never know, maybe someday you’ll take up reloading. It’s another world when you dive into it. 👍🏻
Good information!
@ron6547 - appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
Hi I just got into reloading how much powder for 357 magnum 158 grain bullet in a video i saw 3.6 grains but its quite light load so you reloaded 38 here yes
@mikri9953 - yes, I was loading .38 Special in this video. For illustration purposes, I used a lower powder throw. My suggestion is to make five of each that the book suggests and chronograph each one. This will give you a good idea of what your firearm can handle and how accurate it works. Hope that explains my rationale. Let me know if you need anything else! 👍🏻
Great explanation.
@rDigital2A -glad you found this video helpful! Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
Great video. Where did you find the wrench to tighten the dies. I havent been able to find 1
Hello frank browning!
Thanks for the positive feedback! I bought the wrench years ago when I bought the locking rings. Brownells has them in stock from time-to-time. Check out their website!
www.brownells.com/reloading/reloading-dies/replacement-parts-upgrades/die-locking-ring-wrench-prod55250.aspx?DSA&msclkid=bab4e9fce322155d1da28a8a5af75d6b&Products
I'll do that. Thanks for the info
Good video! Interesting tattoo!
This seem like a lot of work for a bullet I can buy new for 60 to 70 cents....What was the cost for the powder and lead? Some one please reply I have been thinking about getting into reloading.
This is the nice thing about reloading. A friend of mine gifted me a ton of lead ingot. I’ll be making projectiles for the rest of my life and I’m pretty sure my grandchildren will have enough as well. The powder I purchased years ago after Sandy Hook knowing that things would get ugly. I’ve got enough of that to last a lifetime as well. It’s all about dollar cost averaging and how much you shoot. If you’re a real conservative you’ll have the ability to plink away for a long time for a reasonable cost (not including equipment). If you’re a casual plinker I’d probably suggest saving the money on upfront equipment costs and powder, primers, etc and buying ammo in bulk and call it good. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
Excellent video thank you
@DrunkMouse2030 - appreciate the comment! 👍🏻
@@k2defense thank you I subscribed as well :)
@DrunkMouse2030 - thank you! 😊
Very Good video, thanks.
Francesco Bellini - thanks for the positive feedback!
I will not use Unique powder. It is very dirty burning power. Instead of using a RCBS Rock chucker press I prefer the Dillion 550 Press. It throws out a fully reloaded round with each pull of the handle
Hi Ben! I’ve heard of others say the same about Unique. Early on in my reloading days I had a squib load. I was plinking with my father-in-law and doing rapid fire with my revolver. After the second shot, the third didn’t go bang. Thinking it was a bad primer I started advancing the wheel to the next round. My father-in-law stopped me right away. He said, “let me check something”. Sure enough he showed me the empty case and the projectile in the barrel. Ever since then, when I charge the case with powder, I check with a flash light to make sure all cases have powder in them. I guess this is my big hang up not purchasing a progressive press. I know it seems silly but it still scares the heck out of me since my ammo is used by family members. I’m probably just a bit neurotic. 😂 I do love the idea of pumping out a ton of rounds in a short period of time with the amount that I shoot.
Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻
Do you lubricate your shells? Im getting stucked to expanding die and have to use force to get loader crank down
@joniasikainen9925 - I do not lube my shells since it is a straight walled case and my dies are carbide. You have your die set incorrectly. Watch this video. Different caliber but same set up. If that doesn't fix it, let me know and we'll work through it together. 👍 ua-cam.com/video/XaTmluSL4Ls/v-deo.htmlsi=xfs4fRzX1MoiWvQQ
@@k2defense I used Dillon Case Lubricant for cases and they didnt stuck aymore for the expander dies plug. I have Lees simple reloading press
I think you have it set too deep, meaning the die is too low then trying to expand at the same time is causing the case to wrap around the expander plug. Back out the die a bit and lower just the expander plug. Hope this makes sense. 👍🏻
@@k2defense Thank you, I will try that soon. I ´ve new N340 powder which need to be tested with heavy bullets in 357mag
@joniasikainen9925 let us know how it goes! 👍🏻
Hi K2! Great video! Can I ask for some crimping advice? Half turn is good for shooting at the range?
Michael Gavioli - I would turn the die down in small increments until you get the results you desire. I can’t say a half turn is enough or not enough. Too many variables. Check out this video as well. 👍🏻 ua-cam.com/video/diLgHfozgbA/v-deo.html
Also the part number of that die set of 3 you were using please?
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nicely done video
Thanks!!
How much does it cost per round to make reloads. Say 100-500 rounds?
Thebluesrockers- since I reuse my brass, make my own projectiles, the only real cost is primers and powder. So roughly 20-25 cents a round. This is all dependent on availability of both and if I can get them at a good deal or not. Hope this helps!
@@k2defense is that everything, primers, 158 gr, and powder? or is that pretty much the price of the powder per round?
@@thebluesrockers the price of primers will run you 10-15 cents per round. Powder will depend on how much you spend for a point and how much you use. There’s 7000 grains per pound. If you buy a pound for $35 it will cost you .005 cents per grain. So it all depends on how many grains you use per load. If you’re using lead, that cost could be anything. All my lead I’ve salvaged and melted so the cost per round is basically just the cost of my time to make each projectile. Prices for store bought vary. Let’s say 30 cents per projectile. There are too many variables for me to say it should cost you a specific amount of money per round based of the info I’ve supplied. I hope this helps you and doesn’t make things more confusing. The big take away with reloading is that it save you money over time after the initial investment. You’ll hear varying opinions on this point. But for me and the amount that I shoot, I save money. Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@k2defense So basically if I bought everything like primers, lead round nose, and powder, I'd be out like $0.35 to $0.40 a round to make 158 gr. re-loads. does that sound about right? If I also bought the bullet casings I'd probably be out around $.042--$0.46 a round. Does that sound about Right?
@@thebluesrockers you’ll find that it is variable and pricing fluctuate. That’s why I always dislike giving firm yes or no answers with specific cost questions. Loosely speaking, I think you’re in the right ballpark. 👍🏻
Great video and just subbed.
Thanks for the sub!
There's No way in hell you watch TV. You comment on every video I've seen lol
@@gruntspy44 if you’re talking to me I haven’t had cable tv since 2009.
3.5gr powder charge has got to feel like absolutely nothing I imagine
Illustration purposes only. 👍🏻
Press is moving on bench, it needs bolting down more firmly perhaps ?
@neilfurby556! I have this supported with 2x6s. Still have some movement. Crazy how much force one applies with a press. 👍🏻
If you wanted 38 special and 357 rounds for use in a 357 gun, is there any reason to use different brass? Meaning, what if you made a bunch of 357 rounds, but simply altered how much powder and nothing else?
Not Affiliated - knowing you can shoot .38 in both calibers and you can only shoot .357 in .357. I’m guessing you are wanting a standard load set for both. I would encourage you to cross reference the load data for both and see if there is an axial point between the two calibers. My first thought is that you would have one undercharged while the other one adequately charged. Hope that made sense. I cannot commit to any specific load data for liability reasons. But I would encourage you to look at the different load data and see if there’s something that could work for both while still maintaining good groups. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense I am in the research stage and that does help so thank you! I'm new to firearms and what I want to do is get a .357 revolver and make my own bullets and start them out real weak and make stronger charges as I get better. I don't want to buy a .22 and then a .38 and then a .357 and son on. I want to get really really good and just the one gun and graduate to stronger bullets instead of bigger guns. I only have room in my life for one gun and maybe a backup piece. I am nomadic and virtually homeless besides my parents house that I visit 6 times a year. I figure I could make bullets whenever I am "home".
I've avoided firearms my whole life and now I'm making up for lost time, I guess you could say.
Which model press are you using ?
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I have to wonder why you removed the crimp dye after you seated the bullets. All you need to do is back off the seater plug and turn the crimp die in until you have the desired crimp. The crimp dye was already set at the case mouth.
"Basics" of reloading. Illustration purposes. 👍
@@k2defense The loading dies come with instructions which tell simply how to do it.
@@russellkeeling4387 - some folks learn differently. You show me once and I'll never forget how to do it. Hands on learning. Appreciate the comment! 👍
IMHO... you'll never get an instant accurate adjustment out of your powder drop, if you don't cycle the handle about 5+ times before taking a measurement. Just an observation.
100% agree! I know I don’t show this but I pour the powder in the thrower, cycle it five times (just like you said) weigh, then repeat to double check. Once set, I’ll spot check powder throws randomly to make sure it hasn’t moved up or down. They are not the most accurate for consistent powder throws. If I’m really worried about it, I’ll measure each throw. Great comment! 👍🏻
Does 38 special NEED a crimp?
@guccivanilla3691 - in short my recommendation is to crimp cannelure and no crimp with no cannelure. Now, there are many variables in between. For me to keep it simple, this is an easy way to remember. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
I like your vids... thanks. What happens when I put 6.4 grains of hp-38 in a 38 special case? (140 gr bullet) That's the shown load for 357. I mean, I mean... what does case length matter in this case since it is the same caliber? Am I crazy?
@jdodson1297 - if you use that load data for .38 special, in a .38 special, your pistol will need to be able to handle +p loads. It might be possible under those circumstances but you’d need to work up a load using the appropriate load data. As far as the cartridge overall length, you’d need to use the recommended length for the .38 special. I would not recommend deviating from that. Knowing you can shoot .38 special in .357 magnum platforms, you’d still want to use the COL and load data for the .38 special ammo. My biggest concern if you deviate and the ammo is used in a .38 special platform, it could be catastrophic. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense yes, shooting in a 357 pistol for sure so no worries there. And yes, COL all to spec. Just wondering what the difference really is between 357 and 38 besides case length and powder load. In theory, couldn't I use a higher powder load that would be equivalent to a 357 but in a 38 special case?
@jdodson1297 - you’ll have pressure differences that could be dangerous. Curious as to why you want to do this? I’m guessing so you can have a standard load for both cartridges? Personally, I have my favorite recipe for each and I just stick to that. On a side note, for liability reasons, I can’t elaborate on wildcat load data. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
Almost makes $0.50/ Rd seem cheap
Fleet farm!
...the more brass you tumble at one time, the quicker - and cleaner it gets
I hadn’t paid that much attention to this in the past. I’ll have to try this out next time. 👍🏻
Is it easier then 9mm to load?
Tactical BT - the process is identical. The main reason I find it easier to reload rather than 9mm is that the cases are longer and easier for my big fingers to handle. All kidding aside it is a fun caliber to reload and the steps to reloading are identical to the 9mm. One variable that I’ve notice is the the 9mm range brass might have a crimp to remove whereas I’ve never seen a crimp in this caliber. Hope this helps! 👍🏻
@@k2defense thank you!!! I mainly shoot 9mm in pistol mainly for cost but if I can learn to reload 38/357 n start on it n it really saves me money guess I’m switching to revolvers lol
@@tacticalbt1023 that’s awesome! Good luck and happy reloading! 👍🏻
It is not recommended the ram ever touch the die on carbide dies because the carbide is brittle and can break.
What’s up with almost everyone using thin rubber gloves for everything, reloading, mechanicking, changing tank tread…….
When handling lead I certainly do!
I thought this was supposed to be for beginners. Way too complicated for me. I guess i need a simpler way.
Hello @briandavis4916!
Welcome to the world of reloading! When you find that way, please share! 👍🏻
The lee hand loader is the simplest way to begin reloading, I'm fairly new at it myself, .....and I chose the 38/357.... Economically wise its very cheep.
Could have been a good video but your right hand is in the way most of the time.
@snova8033 - apologize for the hand interference. Going to do things differently going forward so I appreciate your feedback. I hope you were able to gain helpful information from the rest of the video. 👍🏻
Note: 38 Special uses Small pistol primers.. .357 uses Small pistol "Magnum Primers"!!.. And Do Not interchange either!..
@crockett11000 - thanks for the comment! 👍🏻