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- .357 Magnum & .38 Special - Ep 1 - Loading our first test rounds
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You're worth a thousand manuals, sir.
I learnt everything there's to know with your beginner reloading series and the 9mm video so far. Now I'm starting to reload 38 special and already went through half of this vid. Always the more instructive around ! Thank's a lot.
NEVER DEPEND ON YT VIDEOS FOR RELOADING RECIPES! USE A PUBLISHED MANUAL.
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Johnny, I know this is an old video and you're really focusing on reloading for things like 6.5 Creedmoor at the moment, but some more 38/357 videos would be much appreciated.
I second this 2 years later during the "14 days to slow the spread" pandemic
@@scottcoleman7304 And another year later, would love more 38/357. 🙂
@@pauldunecat Haha! I have been really into shooting some 38 specials through my suppressed lever gun lately. SO fun.
It’s great to see new comments on an older series. I just got a Henry Steel .357 20” bbl and a Henry Steel Carbine .45 colt. Looking for the data. This is a great series.
more 38/357 videos would be much appreciated.
I know it's an old video but some new .38 and .357 videos would be awesome! Especially with that 200 grainer.
The 38/357 rounds are the perfect civilian defense cartridges in my opinion. Great in revolvers and lever-gun carbines...
The first loading set I ever bought was a Lee die set. The old kind you don't need a press for. I was 14 then and now I am 68. I have loaded and hunted with the .357 all that time. I carried a Rossi Puma .357 as a truck gun on the ranch. I began using 2400 and Blue Dot powder because I use both rifle and pistol. 2400 usually requires a magnum primer but I have done both with it and had no problems. If you want to keep your brass separate and not mix up different loads color the head of the case with a magic marker cuz the bullets once loaded look alike. I lean toward the 140 grain bullets. I have harvested everything with the .357 including elk, deer, coyotes, and some wild dogs that were killing calves. I am listening to this video as I load a box of 158 grain bullets for my pistols. Bear thumpers.
Mate you do not know how helpful this has been for me. Thank you.
Great video mate. I've just started reloading 357/38's myself and found your video easy to follow. Looking forward to more of your videos. Cheers from Bonnie Scotland. 👍🏼
I've been loading the 357 from the 80s till today and I don't use magnum primers ever you don't need them no matter what power you use😊
Thanks, I only reload rifle now but 38/357m may be my fist pistol. Look GREAT!
thanks for this series. I like how you narrate your videos.
I wish I'd watched this first. I bought a used rcbs die set. It seems to be missing parts and now I know I should've just bought a new Lee die set. Thanks for this!
After I bought those dies with the O-ring locking rings, the first thing I did was replace the lock rings with the lock ricks with the allen screws like the other dies on his press. I want to set them and forget them once I get a proper setting. Great video.
Your videos r very educational, and spot on with different camera angles. Your work looks very professional love this channel man 👌
Excellent choice of firearms and excellent video.
Here's a couple suggestions: Once fired brass. 125 XTP, 21gn Little gun, Small Rifle Primer. 158XTP,20gn, Little Gun, SRP.
These loads are for my RIFLE.. Single shot break action with a 22inch Barrel. 3x9x40 on top.
3 3 shot groups at 50 yards all holes touching, 3/4 to 1 inch groups.
Enjoy your videos. When I was first taught how to reload it was on a single stage press and it was 38 special. Later when I started to compete, I started loading on a Dillion progressive press. Once you go progressive, you NEVER go back.
I got excited when I saw the bullet molds!
Yes, it made a lot of sense. Your presentation is nicely methodical. I’m getting into reloading by addressing .38 Special because that’s the most expensive and least available cartridge that I shoot. Maybe, 9mm, next. But, 9mm is readily available and, relatively, inexpensive. Again, nice presentation, from what I can tell at this point in my reloading education.
Blessings, Grace and Peace 😊
I never experienced unburned pistol powder using Unique with standard primers. Unique is a great powder for moderately heavy loads in .357 and .45 Colt. With ultimate loads, I used H110 w/ a magnum primer. I'm sure there are many other great powders out there now. I'm old, so I just know what worked before.
Good pair of weapons for .357. Beaut of a revolver, and fine choice of lever gun. Personal preference, I like the side gate loading over the tube fill / pushrod style, but a fine gun nonetheless.
I just started reloading 357 magnum. I thought I’d come here to see what I was missing.
Thanks.
Love this! What I have is close... A TALO GP-100 .38/.357- and a Henry Golden Boy- only in .44 Mag.
I'll tell you right now shooting .38 special is a joy out of any .357 mag, be sure to try out some +P .38 special rounds through that beast
43:20 Who else immediately thought of the Rah Band? ;-)
Regarding SPM vs SP primers: depends on the powder, not the caliber, as you rightly pointed out. Vihtavuori N110 is a great powder for .357 Magnum not requiring SPM primers. Then again, your domestic Hodgdon H110 is a spectacular choice too - but that does need an SPM primer.
(Response to an old post, I know, but couldn't resist. Keep up the good work, much appreciated!)
Nice video, if you still looking for the difference between the primers it is the pressure the standard will flatten out with lower pressure and the mag will take more pressure to flatten out so that give you an idea of the pressure.
Unique is excellent in the 38 Special and 357 Mag with 185g HP and 200g SWC from GT bullets, incredible accuracy!
Why are you talking in this video like you just bought a bunch of components and are not really sure what you’re doing?
More 357 and 38 please
Hey Johnny, Unique is an awesome powder and if you look in the older Speer manuals the velocity using that powder is right up there otherwise pick up a pound of CFE Pistol or Power Pistol, use standard primers and your cast slugs. You'll love it. For True magnums Ramshot Enforcer IMHO is a much better powder than H110/296, higher velocities, lower spreads and cleaner without the flash. It's my "Go TO" for everything from 327 Federal to 450 Bushmaster.
Looking forward to part 2.
Oh, if you plan on shooting 38 special through the Henry be sure that they are 158 grain minimum or they will not cycle well.
I replaced the front sights on my 357 mag, GP100 with a beade front sight and V notch rear sight, you can get a very fine beade with the GP 100 making longer range shots very, very possible!
The only real problem I think you're going to have is addiction to the .357 carbine. Be prepared to find excuses for why you have to go to the range more often. And why, even though reloading is cheaper, you're spending more money. Good luck. And have lots of fun.
Keep the videos coming I'd enjoy seeing some casting and powder coating too.
I have the GP100 with the 4.2 inch barrel and it loves 125gn bullets no matter if 38 or 357.
I reload on a Lee Classic Turret.
Unique… Ahhh ole faithful
You should do more .357 videos
Great go though on setting up the Lee dies and seeing how that crimp die does . I was waiting to see how the crimp worked on the bullet setting die though .
Good info ,waiting for video number two.
Hey Johnny! I got to 1:33 of this video and had to stop a d comment! Thank you! This is the video I have been waiting for.
I use a Ruger Blackhawk and s Henry Big Boy both in 357 magnum/ 38 special.
I'm using Lee dies! It is perfect. Very glad I subscibed..
I'm just getting started reloading and this is exactly what I need thanks man! Now, on with video!
Can use tite group with either Sp and Spm primers. I have used both. Hodgdon on line manual used Spm with Titegroup for 125/158xtp/hp bullets. Like the Lee die set , might get a set. TiteGroup can be used in 38&357 mag and in small doses, 1lb will load A LOT of both.
love that Starline brass
im really looking forward to this series of videos I just got a Smith and wesson model 60 and the next gun on my list is the gp100 you just bought
The GP 100 is able to handle a lifetime of full power loads I use in my rifle without any problem. I can't say the same for a Taurus I used to own. It couldn't handle loads listed in all my books. It is now a piece of scrap laying on my closet shelf.
17.3 grains of 296 will get your attention.
You really should get some of the hornady lead 148gr hbwc. They are amazingly accurate. I have a couple s&w 686's and with 3.0gr of unique they are stupid accurate. As you know mileage may vary. Just got my hands on some bullseye powder and will be trying that next.
...I always make dummy round first before actually seating my first bullet into a prepared round...
Ruger makes a first class revolver!
Jonny, did you make a .357 Magnum Powder Comparison Video?
personally I feel like u should run ammo that is factory made to find out what ur gun likes then go all out in supplies
How is that working out for ya now?
Thanks for the great video and content I just subscribed to your channel
wear these guns out! ...as it should be.
excellent video
Regarding powder, 2400 and yes you have it. Unique! Bingo
Can you recommend a couple cheaper bullets that can be loaded for a Henry big boy steel?
I'm wanting to try some cheaper stuff just for plinking.
I'm afraid of leading the barrel with the rifle being higher velocity. Thanks
45 long Colt is another one I lik
At 7:07, loving this!
Vote for 2400 love it, just hard to find.
Hi To me you look like an expert ;-). Can you show or answer how you can shoot 158grain 357 magnum with a 38 special or any other weapon! Plz
What are the pros and cons of brass versus nickel?
I don't know of any advantage to nickel plated brass over regular brass. I think law enforcement prefers it for the corrosion resistance. Internet folk lore says that nickel plated brass doesn't last as long because it is more prone to split. I don't have enough firsthand experience to verify that. I would just stick with normal brass unless you have a reason to go with nickel plated. I bought nickel 38 so I could easily sort my 38 & 357 when I took it out of the tumbler.
Richard Venneman it's true they split quicke r
They didn’t get corroded in a leather gun belt. The failure rate for nickel plated brass is at least double that of brass. The nickel seems to make them harder. I generally trade off my nickel plated brass as it torques me to have to throw out so much brass.
Awesome Dude,, Ya I would check out Fortunecookie45LC, That guy has a Video library with everything under the sun in it. Me personally, I have reloaded .38spl with everything from Bullseye, Unique. 700x, Red dot, 231. HP38 just to name a few. The best performers for the .357 Magnum has been 2400, Win296, AA#9, AA#7.. In my Venture of the Caliber. I lean more on 2400 with the 125 grain bullets.
Thor's Axe777 do you have any info on Red Dot with 125 grain SWC?
Hey Johnny, Have you given up on the 38 SPL/357 Mag?
Never! You pick the next 357 video. What do you want to see? Revolver or carbine? Any particular bullet and powder combinations you'd like to see?
To be honest, my lack of 357 videos mainly comes down to not having many good ideas!
Johnny's Reloading Bench I have always loaded the Hornady 140 grain XTP's with H110 with very good results. I just started loading the Hornady 125 grain XTP's for my GP100. I have not shot them yet. I would like to see your results with the same combos from you Match Champion. I have 125's loaded to the Hornady manual. If memory serves me right mine are loaded to 19.4 grains H110.
158 gr SWC in 38 special! W/ Unique 4.2 gr.
Johnny's Reloading Bench same 124/5 gr Hornady and Acurate 9 in 357 revolver
when resizing for 357 mag do i use 357 or 358 lee sizer
A .358 is your best bet. That's the standard size.
Check out Elvis Ammo, he has some great videos on cast bullets along with 45 LC
So from length is ok a 144.7 ? Or would one need to trim that?
I have. Had good accuracy and just all good experience shooting the jacketed soft point bullets 158 grains.....
Sierra makes them.
It's the " Sportsmaster 158 grain item # 8340
hey guy i wanna start reloading if i buy a press can i just buy 1 press and reload multiple calibers on that press and swap dies or do i need 1 for 9mm 1 for 45acp etc??
one press for multiple calibers. you will need different dies per caliber however.
One press,multiple dies works great
Pretty good video. :) Have you used Unique in 38 special with polymer coated bullets?
I am trying to find out what creates all of the 35000 psi pressure in 357 magnum when it is only 1/0 longer than 38 special which is maxed at 17000. I know you use different primers but do you use different powders?
You generally use different powders and heavier bullets.
when is ep2 coming can hardly wait. love your videos
I can't wait to shoot these guns again. I can't believe I've owned them 4 months and still haven't loaded any 357 Magnum. I can't give any promises right now but new 357 videos will be up very soon!
If you load them right then regular and magnum shouldn’t make a real difference, atleast with the powders I use it never has but I mostly use unique, Winchester 231, and bullseye powder I don’t know if that makes a difference
Just as an FYI their is a letter floating around the internet from cci customer service saying that standard small rifle primers are the same as small pistol magnum.
Augie Cooper I did read that somewhere but I don’t know anyone that’s actually tried it.
Did you ever try the 200gr RN Flats?
You said 850 million videos planned?
In the time it took to set up the progressive press you could have had half of the rounds loaded.
I'm using cci 550 magnum primers over 9.4 grains of 2400 and I've never seen so much unburnt powder! Not sure if its due to the light load or what? I'm using the 158 grain Speer swagged lead SWCHP. Anybody have any experience with these in the 20in big boy? Alliant recommends standard primers with 2400. They say lower sd as es. Love your videos.
17.3 gr with the 158 gr XTP is my hunting load. 18.0 gr. or 296 with the 125 gr. is the duplicate load the police used for years that they loved very much shoud be about 1450 fps.
You back out more on the magnums cuz the case length is longer.
P. S. 38/357 is my favorite caliber. Thank you so much for the video. Im a new viewer to your channel.
Do a 44 magnum video!!!
How expensive is it to start reloading?
Pretty darn expensive, I'm at about $6-700 now loading 9mm and 223/8x57. But I now have a means of having ammo I didn't have 2 months ago
@@mauricej1987 well that leaves me out. I don't shoot enough to justify that much cost
Well at $30 a box of 9 mm a good starting paint would be..
Hand press: $70
Dies: $40-50
Brass: depends on caliber and if available
Primers: good luck finding some but a box of 1000 should go for $30-40
Power: $30 a pound and one pound can load 300-400 9 mm
Bullets: $20 arround that price.
After you buy the handpress and dies and brass. All you are putting up for cost it the primer and bullets/projectile.
@@StarDangerous0 1 pound of power is 7000 grains 9mm average takes 5.5 grains more or less depending on recipe that is over 1200 rounds. How did you come up with 3 to 400 rounds?
38 special