@@daggercatz7297 he had some good points though, he just clumsily pointed them out, and he is conservative to the max and i think he is because of how much feminism has taken away from both men and women
EXACTLY. He's the kind of guy that, not only would you *not* want him on your team, but you also *would* want him on the team you are about to go against. It's like if you're playing a team deathmatch game mode and his K/D ratio is so horribly negative that you would just rather he drops his controller and walks away because then he might not give the other team so many points lol.
Agreed, being a men's rights activist could be you fighting against toxic masculinity, and in that case I would consider myself one. And I would definitely consider myself a feminist.
@@alens7805 Yeah I feel like a lot of us can't be simply put in boxes it's like with politicians while they are part of a party or a group they have different and common ideas and while feminism in general today isn't what it used to be I feel like I can consider myself a feminist but definitely not part of the current feminism movement. If you look 5-10 yrs ago there were clear goals for feminist and it wasn't to make women in our countries better but to level other women who don't have the same right, you can't climb all the way up to the mountain and then help someone else climb at the bottom.
There are absolutely no female mens rights activists. Women are greedy and selfish. They echo things they hear to benefit them, they are told to be scared of men. The Dark skin girl talking as though every time she leaves the house a man comes up to her and knocks her out. They think the whole world is against them and men are the only people causing harm to women. If a woman is out there defending men for all the nonsense we get then fair play but there isn't. They think advocating womens rights is defending men. They genuinely believe that following a movement that thinks all men are rapists and women get paid less, is helping stop boys from being told to man up, which isn't even toxic, stop crying over shit and move on with life, regardless of gender. We say stop being a cry baby, does that mean we all hate babies? Man up is a term to get over it as men are stronger than women, if we weren't then they can all go and die in the wars. Fuck that.
Either 1-Jubilee stupidly thinks he actually represents what MRA stands for, or 2-they wanted to give the feminist side some free points. And due to how reasonably great the other 2 MRA guys were, I'm leaning towards the latter.
I wonder what his mother is to him. Sometimes I hear that parents are children bff. But it all depends. I don’t think Derrick’s mother is his bff, for different reasons. And one of them is “He doesn’t want to be friends with a woman.”
@@HiImUnderYourBed Typically, the opposite gender parent falls into the stereotype the person has of them. So, most likely, Derricks mother is the type of woman that Derrick expects women to be. IMO, their relationship is irrelevant to what MRA stands for. And his contribution to this discussion only hindered any progression on the issues.
Any one else realize how she literally described sports n gaming as a man thing, when they're whole argument is about how certain things are restricted from women?
Obviously they would pick the worst people for both sides, that makes it controversial and makes it get more clicks. Does it even look like they give a fuck about the movements, they literally gave the men that yellow jacket guy just to make men’s rights look bad.
Jacob Rickayzen No, the woman says “I don’t hate men, I also play video games.” Which implies that she stereotypes “playing video games” as a “men thing”. She considered playing video games as going out of her way to understand men’s world.
I know right? but I feel the european guy kinda made up for it, as they didn't really have someone on the female's side that was at his level of knowledge
@@ruruisu it's too hard to find a female that is actually educated now adays. At the point feminism is now they are just trying to attack men. I don't see any way that woman are unequal compared to men
the dude named Kursat is an actual legend this boy was the quiet observer for over half the vid and then boom outta nowhere he pulls out a whole arsenal of arguments that just DESTROY
The women didn’t like their argument being dismissed, but she fr said “I know you came in here with your little research.” That is insanely condescending and trying to change the subject.
what I dont get is that she is so sure about a lot of organisations fighting for that but she didnt even have one example. that doesnt really sound like she knows that for sure
@@breemystic Don't be an idiot. He just asked her to back up her assertion with an example, a single example at that. If I'm going to claim that companies outright hate penguins then I'm going to have to provide at least one example if I want to actually be taken seriously. These videos are for all purposes poorly structured debates. She made plenty of arguments against them, and held them to a standard of evidence, so why shouldn't she be held to the same standard?
@@breemystic this makes no sense, the point of a discussion is to make educated points and listen to one another to come to an understanding. I don't see how educating yourself on the topic is inappropriate for a discussion, do you want them to just be speaking bullshit the entire time?
@@kkk.killazackkk5221 yeah, at first I thought he was ok like " hah self proclaimed incel, must be memer" but nah he straight up sexist and... Well, an incel.
@Ult_R4nger 94 There is extensive research done on this and the only reason you'd assert there's no evidence for a wage gap is because you haven't looked into it at all. Here are some studies as a starting point: iwpr.org/publications/still-mans-labor-market/ www.aauw.org/resources/research/simple-truth/ Besides the simple statistical fact of the wage gap there are social/cultural reasons for earning less. - Parenthood is treated differently. Mothers either leave the work-force or are likely to experience a pay-cut, whereas fathers are likely to experience a pay-rise. A lot of families in the USA also don't have paid family leave www.familiesandwork.org/ - Because women are typically more involved in care-work and house-work, men have the opportunity to work longer hours, and this is part of why full-time woman workers earn less. This is an instance of a cultural gender norm causing women to earn less. - Women are on average more educated than men, yet earn less even at the same educational levels statusofwomendata.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/EE-CHAPTER-FINAL.pdf - Women are less likely to negotiate pay increases, because this is more likely to lead to penalisation than if a man did the same www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0749597806000884 - In case you want to argue that earning 0.20c less is not a big deal, that adds up to 10k a year for the average full-time worker
Jordan and I like how she was FUCKIN MAD bro like she was being toxic ash just for a question, and we’re the ones that are TOXIC to them for nothing like actually wtf
''men should be less toxic and talk more about positive things like us women''-chicks literally disrespecting the dude's life work, those girls are so entitled it makes me nauseous.
Incel derek could have stayed silent and taken the W his team was providing. But no, he cared more about trying to be MVP rather than winning and (ironically) was just FUBARing everything for his team. Ultimately the MRA side does walk away as the winners but that's not to say douchebag derek didn't give the other team some free points.
I'm so happy felix is talking more, it looks like he's making progress on learning how to articulate his words much more effectively now even if it's just slowly.
The middle girl was the most reasonable one there. Chat seemed to hate any points made by her even though some were reasonable? Like she talked about how women can abuse men and that women should be held accountable as well, but she was on the right side of the video so chat automatically dismissed it. The incel dude is just too far gone and the other two dudes had great points.
@@xMushroomFairy I thinks it's because she didn't think that she would be challenged on the topic (or any topic at that) so she didn't feel the need to do research.
This is such a misrepresentation of both sides in order to get more provocative content and more likes, real men's rights activists and feminists content would be boring they'd agree on everything and help each other
exactly the women are just casual feminists that don't know the subject very well and the men are all reactionary men's rights activists and not ppl that actually care abt men's rights and only care abt going against feminism since it has "fem" in the name
@@katerinagagne1809 youre right being a mens rights activist is the same thing as saying youre a male feminist the definition of feminism doesnt put one above the other, but if youre going to an incel to talk about mens rights i guess youre also the type of person to think someone screaming kill all men is what feminists are
@@liannetheworld He clearly spoke about days where he would be over emotional and wished his mom had told him to 'be a man'. He has long hair. His voice is higher pitched than the other men. He seems very submissive in his pose. Do you disagree that he's feminine?
Vega! 銀 His incelism went too far LULW he actually wasn’t wrong on some things, he was just way too awkward and cringe so he definitely didn’t get his point across
Vega! 銀 he’s an incel. The fuck are we supposed to do? Some of his points were actually valid. He clearly has social anxiety and wasn’t raised correctly. People always treat others like shit for not being giving the things other were. For example. He stated that he was born without a father. That explains a lot. How is he supposed to learn to become a man and learn fatherly things. If there was no father figure for him? You can’t blame people for getting unlucky on the birth lottery
BloodyOne Something tells me he's not just talking about the women in the video. This comment gives me incel vibes, but hey, hopefully I'm wrong. I'm just tired of people justifying their sexism and hate for women off of some bad arguments in a video. If you ask me, both sides were shit.
Kursat was the man. Just straight facts. Mimi is a disaster. When she said "I know you came with your little research or whatever"..I was done with her. You cannot take anyone seriously who has an attitude like that.
JB actually might be the case lol. I wouldn’t even be surprised if that man was a paid actor. The other men were fucking balling yet he insisted on continually giving them an easy person to bully by saying stupid shit lol. I refuse to believe even an incel is dumb enough to get beaten up verbally that many times and still keep talking.
JB Well the only guy with good arguments was the one with the European accent. The asian guy is still a kid inside and the incel is fucking cringe. The only good feminist was the middle one. The other four were not good lmao
@strontiumXnitrate FEMINISTS FIGHT FOR GENDER EQUALITY / ABOLITION FOR FUCKS SAKE HOW CAN THIS ENTIRE COMMENT SECTION BE COMPOSED OF LITERAL BRAINDEAD 15 YEAR OLDS GOD
@@syn1cal252hey buddy, maybe reconsider being a centrist right winger piece of shit and people won't be angry at you for being a bigot eh? "oh you ruined the comment section" yeah of course I did, you're such a bigoted fuck you won't even question your nazi thoughts. Hey, why don't you pick a book and learn something instead of complaining? fucking gamers
even w out derrick it was trash "I think women are more nuturing and should take care of children instead" then later on "why women win more custody battles than men???!!!" plus the part where they were like "women get more job opportunities" but also "yeah men shouldnt be midwives" big mess
@@freddy-transbear nobody does that but if you're coming on a channel to discuss your views on something you should probably do research before you try to argue something as facts it's called being prepared smh this wasn't a random dude in the street catching her by surprise
@@freddy-transbear while your point is completely reasonable This was an interview She knew about probably days before going So she had the time to research to conduct her argument for feminism
Mens rights are a given. Since themselves in american history always have the power it goes to them to give all rights to men automatically. For instance the right to vote or to be able to work. Its ironic to go for men's rights when there are so many other groups in much more need of them. I think.
@Amirus yeah, patriarchy places an inmense pressure on so called men to perform as expected. Many times when people don't live up to what society expects mentall illness arises. Do some reading on feminism my guy
@Amirus "someone told me not to be a toxic fuck, oh bother" stop getting offended at literally everything you dick. Feminism strives for equality via a hard gender theory look, if you don't understand how that results in questioning "men" as a societal stereotype and not men as a person, AKA you, then don't critize it. Don't talk about shit you don't understand, Mr. Dunning Kruger
@@arman6576 idk I don't like him because some of his points are very old in a way he wish for a patriarchy. But I recommend you do your own research and form your own opinions on the matter because at the end of the day it your opinion...
one tip for everyone, when trying to find common ground on hot topics do not keep bringing anecdotes into every one of your counter arguments or counter talking points!
@@Ikedih yeah I really fucking wonder. You do realize it's the same as asking "name me 15 men's rights organizations" during a live debate GOD YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE SO FUCKING STUPID
Matthew Van Tassel i genuinely dont think so the incel and the asian guy were horrible examples of mens rights activists the eu guy definitely beat them but the other two are stupid
@@ihysanti4224 i don't think so, that incel guy has some good points as well especially the society one, too far ahead atm. Plus that Asian guy also make some vital points regarding what men faces in different fields of life right now regarding jobs etc. But in the you need one good analyst to define the whole thing same for the eu guy, he singlehandedly cause havoc on other side.
@Berserker Berserker I find that men take better care of themselves when they are alone because there's not a woman there to do it for them. In many of the relationships I've seen and the married couple friends that I have, the woman is usually forced to often "mother" the man. Being coddled by anyone of course makes us humans lazy. But that's the most common power dynamic I've seen. It's a shame because nobody wants to have to mother a human that's not your child. Some couples have found the balance to live as equals but its rare
Vinzenz Stein Ferrari Freitas no you idiot, they were literally just talking out of their asses most of the video, they were talking just to make noise with nothing to back up anything they were saying
@@drakebrown9622 No i'm saying that you focusing on the incel's looks in the video is the biggest problem to them You focusing on his look is the problem the incels talk about
They really need a mediator/middle ground for these things, having 3 people on each side who fully disagree with each other's philosphies are never going to result in a positive outcome.
wage gap in a nutshell: take a man who does one week of full time work then take a woman who does a week of part time work. then compare what they were paid. That is the wage gap.
Krioque Along with what Ambrose said, men are statistically more likely to pursue higher positions, to focus on their jobs more than their work relationships, to take more risks, to be more competitive, to take less sick days, to take less vacation days. And women still use the wage gap excuse. Sad.
Allyson Engle Well, many of these articles conflict each other. The New York Times article states that the men are the underpaid sex, while the Wired article states that it’s not the case. The Atlantic article just says that the women are paid less than men. Which is it? Plus, one of the sources is just the first thing that came up on google, ironically. Also, which source is the source saying that there is a racial pay gap? None of the sources said so, or I may have missed something.
i like how her explanation on how she addvicates for mens rights consisted of her explaining the basic concept that a man can be abused, and then acting like such an obvious statement is so insanely helpful, while at the same time she wants men to preach in depth about womens problems that are also partially derived from just fake information
One more 5Head and they would have demolished the Femenists and completely destroyed their egos. Did you see how that one girl almost started crying and putting words in the mouths of the Asian guy. Holy shit.
chat is making me so angry like yeah she’s gonna be angry when talking abt being assaulted for just saying no to a man you would be too. so stop saying “triggered” as a joke bc it’s just invalidating her experience and making it seem less serious when it is, in fact a very serious and unfortunately common issue
@ men statistics for rape isn't close to women statistics. Not saying that people should ignore man and most of the time men rape allegations usually get laughed at but, the idea that the women anecdote isn't a reflection on what happens to most females is disingenuous.
@ i don’t think you realize that it is in fact very common for men to sexually assault women. for example, if you go to rainn.org (the largest anti-sexually assault organization in the US) and look up their statistics, you will see that the statistics for women to be raped is 1 of 6, and for men it is 1 of 33. and if those statistics only are about rape and are that high, then you can probably imagine how high the statistics are for sexual assault. i do completely understand where you are coming from and i think that it is very important to spread awareness about sexual assault and rape of men, but please do not use that argument as a way to invalidate a woman when she is a victim of sexual assault or rape. there is a time and place for everything.
Tony Malott she didn’t even say that tho she was talking about harassment and had shared her own personal story and then he was like when and where but she’d literally just said
@@jadac6585 He asked a fucking question. Instead she let emotions get the better of her and ranted at the guy. You can't keep defending the actions of the feminists on the video to make yourself feel better.
When she spoke about men not being allowed to express emotions why did chat spam question marks? That’s actually a big issue for me sometimes WeirdChamp
Actually true. This is something that's well researched, men are not educated to be able to show emotions to the same extent as women, and it's the very basis of the concept of toxic masculinity. The word is just so misrepresented that it starts to sound bad
"I see a place of anger from men activists" Guy "what experiences" Also women "HOW DARE YOU SAY MY EXPERIENCES ARE NOT VALID" Like how tf this guy supposed to know some random lady got touched???
its not "some random lady" 81% of woman have experience some type of sexual harassment. i have been sexually harassed many times and when i report it they say boys will be boys
@@andreaverasamy8109 except that survey was an opt-in online survey, so would obviously have massively inflated numbers, since who does a survey to say that *haven't* had something done to them. That also is in respect to even 1 incident within their entire lifetime, so that's hardly that bad. And if the people you tell say "boys will be boys", you're obviously still at school, which isn't reflective of any workplace or the real world, especially post MeToo
I just want to point out, that this woman said "I dont have a list !!MY DUDE!!". If any of those guys, would've brought a pointless statement like that, and ended it with "My girl", it would be seen as sexist. Just sayin.
I love how feminists say “men diminish us” but then they also said this guy “little research” when he took a lot of time to use facts and it’s important to him
well... actually... the reality is that men are actually paid less than they should be, and the employers hire women for even less money so that men won't complain about it! ^^
@@kirionj.a.w1147 it just bs from my part... :) - an attempt at making a joke... ^^ but, since you ask, i've watched a very interesting 'reality show' from the UK, where a few TV celebs (including one politician) spent a all week in the Victorian time. they had to do all the dirty jobs the poor were doing, and living in the same conditions. at some point one of the woman was told to spend the day being the 'manager' of the group. at the end of the day, they all got paid. but the woman manager, despite her doing a good job, only got 1/2 of what the men managers had received. whatever the job, women were always being paid half of what a man would be paid. still, employers always preferred paying a man double even though women labour was cheaper...
these comments shed a light on xqc's fans mainly being young men and teenage boys, the modern online perception of feminism as something evil that wants to bring down men is just false and i feel like most of them would agree with feminism as a whole if it wasnt so vocaly expressed online through trolls and extremists as this enemy of men
bruh the wage gap is real, causation is debated, the causation is that women are far more likely to bear children and settle down and be a stay at home mom, this is something we can work for
Rising Glory By the wage gap I mean the idea that women make less hourly amounts for the EXACT same job and with the EXACT same qualifications as a male in the company.
I don't like the "wage gap" terminology. There is an "average earnings gap" between men and women. We should discuss the causes and effects of that fact, along with possible solutions.
King Andrew True, however, on average men sometimes makes more, because they’ve worked in that job longer and therefore obviously make more money. Men are also more likely to take risks, which is why there are more men in the stock market, and making businesses. Therefore there probably is a natural pay gap nationwide, but saying men make more than women doing the same thing, with the same education & work experience is fucking bullshit
@@JimsyFlimsy when someone is about to cry you can hear a shaky voice, and voice trail after a sentence, and different tone. If you've herd someone cry, you would notice it too.
Bruh someone in the chat said that dude looks like a Pokémon trainer
someone in the chat said VICTORY ROYALE after they finished POGGERS
Incel Brandon challenged you to a battle
TRUEEEEE
@@souldanny. Dereck*
who?
Derrick is like that one friend who the moment he starts giving his opinion you're just like god damnit he's doing it again
Lvl2Mankey why would anyone want a friend like Derrick
@@jand2861 He's an incel man, he wouldn't be if he didn't have deficiencies.
@@sttate What makes someone an "incel"? Some of what he said made sense so I'm really curious to know how one is considered an "incel".
Lol
@@SilentAndy He calls himself one in the other video (which is entirely about him being an incel), so I really don't need to defend that position.
The girl that said : "i don't dislike men, i like sports, i play video games". It's the same as "i don't hate mexicans, i sell drugs, i love burritos"
"I wash the dishes, I clean the house, I don't dislike women"
Mr Suction I spit out my green tea at “I sell drugs” 😂
I sell drugs LMFAO
Bro don’t make fun of us.
We don’t eat burritos, we eat tacos.
That’s the only part you got wrong 🤣🤣
Mr Suction lmfao
There's 3 groups in this discussion
1. Men Rights
2. Feminists
3. Derrick
Derrick
Derrick
Derrick
derrick is based and a sigma male
@@kimpavfx No he’s just eternally bitchless
This Derrick dude is probably the reason that the femenists disagreed so much lol
they are feminists, they always disagrees because they cant see men as having problems
G3HERO :D Jubilee having an incel on the men’s side was a mistake
@@daggercatz7297 he had some good points though, he just clumsily pointed them out, and he is conservative to the max and i think he is because of how much feminism has taken away from both men and women
ScrewFearMe Finally a smart person in this comment section.
ScrewFearMe as a feminist i also advocate for men’s rights. in the prison system and harassment, etc. so actually, no.
Derrick is the kind of guy who brings down your points by agreeing with you
EXACTLY. He's the kind of guy that, not only would you *not* want him on your team, but you also *would* want him on the team you are about to go against.
It's like if you're playing a team deathmatch game mode and his K/D ratio is so horribly negative that you would just rather he drops his controller and walks away because then he might not give the other team so many points lol.
@@nicholaskinkaid i get it now with that K/D example 😂
Well their points weren't good otherwise
My dude you can shoot, stab, slap, punch, push and beat a man but he can’t push you or he’ll be arrested.... THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN!!
Incel power
Using an incel to represent men’s rights activists is like using Adolf Hitler to represent right-wing conservatives
You got me to laugh good job
Yeah..... bc right winged conservatives are selfish and racist/homophobic and incels so 🧍
@@pilioko bruh
@@pilioko And Liberals are just a bunch of whiny, white hating, men hating, baby killing, snowflakes.
it sure is :D
Mom can we get mens rights activists: (Zach and Kursat)
No we have mens rights activists at home
Mens rights activists at home: (Derek)
YEEEESSSSSS!
This is too true
@@soulcost This comment was 7 months ago, this meme was funnier back then
@@soulcost I laughed. Oh wow! Humour is a very subjective thing, who would've known.
LMAOOOO 🤣🤣🤣
The Asian dude, European guy, and the middle girl need to do it as just them 3. Everyone else was just braindead
True
So fucking true, everybody else is literally dumb and super defensive as soon as they are challenged lol.
The other three are just sexist
I agree
@@mahraba874 I am your 200th subscriber whoa :D! and also agree, they were the normal people and the incel and crazy feminists were dumbbbb
Also I feel like jubilee could’ve made the argument more interesting with a male feminist and a female men’s right activist
Agreed, being a men's rights activist could be you fighting against toxic masculinity, and in that case I would consider myself one. And I would definitely consider myself a feminist.
@@alens7805 Yeah I feel like a lot of us can't be simply put in boxes it's like with politicians while they are part of a party or a group they have different and common ideas and while feminism in general today isn't what it used to be I feel like I can consider myself a feminist but definitely not part of the current feminism movement. If you look 5-10 yrs ago there were clear goals for feminist and it wasn't to make women in our countries better but to level other women who don't have the same right, you can't climb all the way up to the mountain and then help someone else climb at the bottom.
There are absolutely no female mens rights activists. Women are greedy and selfish. They echo things they hear to benefit them, they are told to be scared of men. The Dark skin girl talking as though every time she leaves the house a man comes up to her and knocks her out. They think the whole world is against them and men are the only people causing harm to women.
If a woman is out there defending men for all the nonsense we get then fair play but there isn't. They think advocating womens rights is defending men. They genuinely believe that following a movement that thinks all men are rapists and women get paid less, is helping stop boys from being told to man up, which isn't even toxic, stop crying over shit and move on with life, regardless of gender. We say stop being a cry baby, does that mean we all hate babies? Man up is a term to get over it as men are stronger than women, if we weren't then they can all go and die in the wars. Fuck that.
Karen Straughan should have been there, man she would have schooled all of them, especially the feminists
@@SpreadThem listen to Karen Straughan
Bruh every time the guy in the yellow jacket talks I know something is gonna go down
He's dog shit, he throwing the matches
@@iamaloafofbread8926 it was funny tho
😂😂😂
hes hilarious i wish he said some fucked up shit like women on leashes and having curfews worldwide
@@midknight5194 woah that’s not ok never say something like that
"I wouldn't be friends with a woman" guy is weird as hell whyd they put him in there
Yeah I didn't like derrick at all he's a weirdo
Either 1-Jubilee stupidly thinks he actually represents what MRA stands for, or 2-they wanted to give the feminist side some free points. And due to how reasonably great the other 2 MRA guys were, I'm leaning towards the latter.
Should’ve added a lesbian w shaved hair who says kill all men if they added that dude, would only make it fair
I wonder what his mother is to him. Sometimes I hear that parents are children bff. But it all depends. I don’t think Derrick’s mother is his bff, for different reasons. And one of them is “He doesn’t want to be friends with a woman.”
@@HiImUnderYourBed Typically, the opposite gender parent falls into the stereotype the person has of them. So, most likely, Derricks mother is the type of woman that Derrick expects women to be.
IMO, their relationship is irrelevant to what MRA stands for. And his contribution to this discussion only hindered any progression on the issues.
Any one else realize how she literally described sports n gaming as a man thing, when they're whole argument is about how certain things are restricted from women?
Men are fucking SUPERIOR GOD DAMN IT
they don't even know what they want LULW
It's almost like they say what's on top of their head rather then think for a moment of what they are actually going to say.
how about women beaing allowed to like the colour pink or blue without anyone scratching their heads while i can only like blue
@@therealmohammad they are allowed. No one says they can't...
what?
The men's rights activists have a Chad and virgin on the same team LULW
which one is the chad... they all have tits
@young lord Don't worry, your statement has bias to it.
@@gabrielhaynie1531 good one gabriel
Gabriel Haynie your comment is bias and wrong. Bye bye buddy.
@@BroskiXP fatty
If xqcow did one of these things it would be hilarious
xqc justifying his answer: "dude dude dude dude listen, it's true dude"
@@cristianax1935 hey dude you have to dude dude true dude true that's true
LOOK DUD, LISTEN DUD, YOU GOT SMOKED DUD, AND ROLLED
Actually True Dud
I don't give a fuck dud I'm out dude I'm done with this shit "slams and quits"
They literally pick the worst people for both communities to represent them in a bad way
Obviously they would pick the worst people for both sides, that makes it controversial and makes it get more clicks. Does it even look like they give a fuck about the movements, they literally gave the men that yellow jacket guy just to make men’s rights look bad.
The worse they are the more content they print :D
but the feminists are so damn reasonable tho?
@@hellodarknesss.myoldfriend I agree but some of the examples they had didn’t make sense
@@hellodarknesss.myoldfriend i wish they spoke up more
"I don’t hate men"
"I play video games"
But if a man were to say i don’t hate woman. I clean and cook. That would be wrong and stereotypical🤦🏾♂️
@My penis is unbelievably small but How are men oppressed? Just wondering based on your comment made you sould you actually believe this shit.
That's what I was thinking tbh
@@googleoperationcyclone I have not done anything for 13.8 billion years (since I kickstarted the Big Bang)
@@TvConfusionn Bruh you made me laugh for a good 5 minutes with that response.
AquaLxrdBTW o shit you’re right
“I don’t hate men”
“I play video games”
Dippidous Fippidous “I’m not racist, I have black friends” lmao
No bull sh*t More like „I‘m not racist, I eat fried chicken“
Wtf how do those comments link to each other at all? I don’t get it. Do u hav a stigma with women who play video games hating men?
Jacob Rickayzen No, the woman says “I don’t hate men, I also play video games.” Which implies that she stereotypes “playing video games” as a “men thing”. She considered playing video games as going out of her way to understand men’s world.
Azura thanks! It might not be bad for sure - maybe she meant something different. But liking video games and sports doesn’t mean you love men
i feel like the incel was only there to make the other ones look bad
I know right? but I feel the european guy kinda made up for it, as they didn't really have someone on the female's side that was at his level of knowledge
@@ruruisu it's too hard to find a female that is actually educated now adays. At the point feminism is now they are just trying to attack men. I don't see any way that woman are unequal compared to men
Khalil Carney well it’s only feminists who do that. i am a female and don’t consider myself a fem, and their sides didn’t have many good points imo.
@@jojonenamimi of course I didn't mean all women I meant most feminist women are uneducated on the topic they fight for
Khalil Carney if you don’t see any way in which women are still being treated unequal to men, then it’s because you don’t want to see.
the dude named Kursat is an actual legend
this boy was the quiet observer for over half the vid and then boom outta nowhere he pulls out a whole arsenal of arguments that just DESTROY
Agree. A Classic example of "speak softly, and carry a big stick" and to the unprepared, he will wreck em.
YESSS
they actually cut a majority of his part on the show. he actually provided a lot more content thats in depth. He has it on his youtube channel
you guys are so fucking weird
@@blitzwolf1012 why?
The women didn’t like their argument being dismissed, but she fr said “I know you came in here with your little research.” That is insanely condescending and trying to change the subject.
Yeah and hes like "just one that you know of" "BRUH I DIDN'T COME WITH A LIST WTF REEEEE"
what I dont get is that she is so sure about a lot of organisations fighting for that but she didnt even have one example. that doesnt really sound like she knows that for sure
Name ONE organization= List
@@breemystic Don't be an idiot. He just asked her to back up her assertion with an example, a single example at that. If I'm going to claim that companies outright hate penguins then I'm going to have to provide at least one example if I want to actually be taken seriously. These videos are for all purposes poorly structured debates. She made plenty of arguments against them, and held them to a standard of evidence, so why shouldn't she be held to the same standard?
@@breemystic this makes no sense, the point of a discussion is to make educated points and listen to one another to come to an understanding. I don't see how educating yourself on the topic is inappropriate for a discussion, do you want them to just be speaking bullshit the entire time?
12:24 In chat "Derrick is throwing" this shit had me rolling
😂😂👌💙
Lolol didn’t even see that, thanks
FAX ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Legit throwing, we coulda come out top fragging but we ended up getting thrashed
Your pfp has me unusually Hot for some reason, I wonder why? 🤔
Zach and Bea were the chillest, derrick introduced himself as an incel lmao
Yes, the UK(?) Guy was good to though
I really don't like Derrick, he deadass just said "I would never be friends with a woman" like WTF😂
@@kkk.killazackkk5221 yeah, at first I thought he was ok like " hah self proclaimed incel, must be memer" but nah he straight up sexist and... Well, an incel.
@@mr2incher583 there was no uk guy
@@mitch-ui8ds guy in blue shirt
I’m surprised Derrick didn’t show up in full Joker cosplay
He is a Chad.
Like how she said "I love men: I like sports, i like video games..."
Arent feminists strictly against "gender stereotypes"?
They're hypocrites
i think the point was to show that she was involved in culture involving men to prove that she wasnt just some man hating feminazi who eats punani
They are hypocrites.
You are not gonna find one consistent thing in feminism my dude
Raleigh Adelle “I like women, I cook and clean my house!”
xQc's chat has the brain capacity of an atom.
That's a bit generous my dude
lol my brain froze trying to decipher that comment
And you’re probably a feminist
@@Zee-hu5ue Guessing your a 12 year old XQC fan
That's Twtch chat in general
"is the wage gap actually even real?"
*chat spams no for 2 seconds*
"IT'S BOGUS THEN"
pinnacle of research
Wojciech Wilkanowski honestly yeah luuuul
@Ult_R4nger 94 I'm sure you've done lots of honest impartial research into the evidence behind the wage gap
@Ult_R4nger 94 There is extensive research done on this and the only reason you'd assert there's no evidence for a wage gap is because you haven't looked into it at all. Here are some studies as a starting point:
iwpr.org/publications/still-mans-labor-market/
www.aauw.org/resources/research/simple-truth/
Besides the simple statistical fact of the wage gap there are social/cultural reasons for earning less.
- Parenthood is treated differently. Mothers either leave the work-force or are likely to experience a pay-cut, whereas fathers are likely to experience a pay-rise. A lot of families in the USA also don't have paid family leave www.familiesandwork.org/
- Because women are typically more involved in care-work and house-work, men have the opportunity to work longer hours, and this is part of why full-time woman workers earn less. This is an instance of a cultural gender norm causing women to earn less.
- Women are on average more educated than men, yet earn less even at the same educational levels statusofwomendata.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/EE-CHAPTER-FINAL.pdf
- Women are less likely to negotiate pay increases, because this is more likely to lead to penalisation than if a man did the same www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0749597806000884
- In case you want to argue that earning 0.20c less is not a big deal, that adds up to 10k a year for the average full-time worker
@Ult_R4nger 94 See how quickly we've gone from 'no evidence' to 'I don't care'? That's anti-feminism summed up right there
@Ult_R4nger 94 that's literally what the wage gap is lmao
the asian guy had the best arguments. YELLOW JACKET is just a troll 🤣
Had to be idk any guys who think like that
@@nottodayimbusy7146 Jubille put him in there to make the Men’s rights activists look bad
the best arguments were actually made by kursat but they edited him out
nah the accent dude did
@@gobbyvalo ye ur right the accernt dude had the best argument
The incel was there to represent the chat xDDDDDDD
best comment
Ahahah exactly
Spot on lmao. Bunch of fucking retards in chat.
you what honestly looking at the chat made me so uncomfortable its deadass just a bunch of incels💀
They are like 13 years old calm the fuck down
When you call someone’s life work “little research”
"i didnt come with a list my dude"
So condescending...smh
Jordan and I like how she was FUCKIN MAD bro like she was being toxic ash just for a question, and we’re the ones that are TOXIC to them for nothing like actually wtf
''men should be less toxic and talk more about positive things like us women''-chicks literally disrespecting the dude's life work, those girls are so entitled it makes me nauseous.
To be fair, that guy did have an annoying shit eating grin on his face that I kept wanting to punch. Everyone annoyed me in this video.
Xqc’s editor is on crack, this was literally streamed like 3 hours ago and he already edited and uploaded it, wtf
There was barely any editing in the first place, it’s not that hard to trim a vod
i mean all he had to do was chop the vod. there isn't any "editing" done here
@@leonbelmont4028 but remember rendering and uploading in itself costs quite a lot of time
@@XanderFenikkusu Not for a god pc
editing andy doing gods work
Someone said “you are 130 lbs xQc you cant defend yourself” 😂😂😭
That's true he probably can't and is full of soy
nothing a gun or a knife cant fix
xqc using a gun oh no no no
He's gonna slide cancel jump out of a window and dead silence that dude with an mp5
@Seth Belfort i don’t know why I typed this. Maybe my brain just wasn’t working that day but I didn’t mean to type that
the incel guy is just like trying not to slip up the whole entire time lmao
Derrick fucking bought a slip and slide, the fuck you mean LOL 😂
Incel derek could have stayed silent and taken the W his team was providing. But no, he cared more about trying to be MVP rather than winning and (ironically) was just FUBARing everything for his team. Ultimately the MRA side does walk away as the winners but that's not to say douchebag derek didn't give the other team some free points.
@@nicholaskinkaid Derek's not a douchebag hes an icel basement ogre
he did a terrible job at that
the EU harvard 5head guy was smurfing
using 2nd acc to get into a bot lobby...not fair...should be perma banned
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA He fucking clapped them
True
Ya Idk how he got accepted into this low-level quest. Maybe he missed some achievements on his first playthrough.
Exactly.
I'm so happy felix is talking more, it looks like he's making progress on learning how to articulate his words much more effectively now even if it's just slowly.
@@redlord1660 don't bully him just because he's wetarded widepeeposad
@@transparentbystander253 im sowwy, my little brother is also slo WidePepoSad
our pepega is evolving PogU
@@Ghanemq8 Soon will he end up being an okayga PogU
😭
Derrick is the type of guy to say something and see how people respond to it then try to say they were joking if people don’t handle it well.
Chat is getting adhd from xqc, they can only listen to an argument thats one sentence long, then its just all question marks.
theyre all fkn idiots
after 3 people say something the rest all follow without paying attention
The middle girl was the most reasonable one there. Chat seemed to hate any points made by her even though some were reasonable? Like she talked about how women can abuse men and that women should be held accountable as well, but she was on the right side of the video so chat automatically dismissed it. The incel dude is just too far gone and the other two dudes had great points.
she also is wrong on the other stuff so she isnt in the clear but its a good thing that shes the most reasonable at least
“I didnt come with rESeArCh”
@@mutantraze3681 That part had me so confused lmao. Was she upset that he had done research?
yeah she was very reasonable and likable
@@xMushroomFairy I thinks it's because she didn't think that she would be challenged on the topic (or any topic at that) so she didn't feel the need to do research.
I hate when the feminists don’t know what to say they start getting loud and say “stop attacking me”
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!!!!!!!
Stoooooooop harassing me
HUGH MUNGUS WOT
AAAHHH STOP ATAGONIZING MEEE
When did they say that?
This is such a misrepresentation of both sides in order to get more provocative content and more likes, real men's rights activists and feminists content would be boring they'd agree on everything and help each other
exactly the women are just casual feminists that don't know the subject very well and the men are all reactionary men's rights activists and not ppl that actually care abt men's rights and only care abt going against feminism since it has "fem" in the name
@@katerinagagne1809 youre right being a mens rights activist is the same thing as saying youre a male feminist the definition of feminism doesnt put one above the other, but if youre going to an incel to talk about mens rights i guess youre also the type of person to think someone screaming kill all men is what feminists are
Actual 5head analogy
The incel and the one girl who got triggered 2 mins in are actual troll characters LUL
They had to have the 2 worst examples for fun
why is everyone roasting the incel guy, he made fair points he just has some old style views.
@Arctic Donkey How is he feminine...?
@@liannetheworld He clearly spoke about days where he would be over emotional and wished his mom had told him to 'be a man'. He has long hair. His voice is higher pitched than the other men. He seems very submissive in his pose. Do you disagree that he's feminine?
@DeadMemes NeedToStayDead and lord farquaad
That guy with the accent when he talks all of the girls get erased
I DONT GET IT WHAT DO YOU MEAN
@@MIGUZI because someone prepared more on having knowledge than coming in hot on emotion. He literally made that sassy bitch blank out and flee.
MIGUZI they get obliterated.
Almedin Talovic turkish accent
Almedin Talovic he crushed em all
The Incel is literally throwing LULW
Vega! 銀 His incelism went too far LULW he actually wasn’t wrong on some things, he was just way too awkward and cringe so he definitely didn’t get his point across
He was super awkward he said some squadW shit about how men and women couldnt be friends like wtf
Vega! 銀 he’s an incel. The fuck are we supposed to do? Some of his points were actually valid. He clearly has social anxiety and wasn’t raised correctly. People always treat others like shit for not being giving the things other were.
For example. He stated that he was born without a father. That explains a lot. How is he supposed to learn to become a man and learn fatherly things. If there was no father figure for him? You can’t blame people for getting unlucky on the birth lottery
Woman: *asks question*
Man: *answers*
Man: *asks question*
Woman: *uses evasion*
Here before feminist rages
Filip Stojcevski same lol
You do realize you are validating the feminist movement more by generalizing all women.
@@hannahbeth7631 You do realize he's listing something that actually happened in the video right ? i mean, he even wrote ''woman'' not ''women''.
BloodyOne Something tells me he's not just talking about the women in the video. This comment gives me incel vibes, but hey, hopefully I'm wrong. I'm just tired of people justifying their sexism and hate for women off of some bad arguments in a video. If you ask me, both sides were shit.
Kursat was the man. Just straight facts. Mimi is a disaster. When she said "I know you came with your little research or whatever"..I was done with her. You cannot take anyone seriously who has an attitude like that.
ny_kia31
That’s because she knew she was beaten!
@@simoid4230 And Kursat is further showing how smart he is by making her aggressive with just a few words
Nobody asks for a list ( bitch)....
Bea and Zach were chill asf
Her and the experience lady were corrupt , they should be thrown away with derrick
The guy: *talks about bias in giving death sentences and jail time*
The woman: HEY WHAT ABOUT THE $2 TAX
What was she even arguing? There’s taxes on food lmao😂
Tampons being taxed.. a medical necessity is being taxed
@@wilfrido1lora Food being taxed... A human right is being taxed
@@wilfrido1lora water is sometimes being taxed
@@wilfrido1lora if anything she should protest about the American health care system
Why is the incel guy there? He only contributes with cringe
JB they just wanted to taint our image SquadW absolute shamelessness SquadW
JB actually might be the case lol. I wouldn’t even be surprised if that man was a paid actor. The other men were fucking balling yet he insisted on continually giving them an easy person to bully by saying stupid shit lol. I refuse to believe even an incel is dumb enough to get beaten up verbally that many times and still keep talking.
@JB The Blue shirt EU guy is a liteteral 5Head
He's trolling 😂
JB Well the only guy with good arguments was the one with the European accent. The asian guy is still a kid inside and the incel is fucking cringe. The only good feminist was the middle one. The other four were not good lmao
“Never argue with a stupid person, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” -Mark Twain
thats what everyone has to remember before having a conversation with a woman
@@carljohnson6183my dude thats like joking about dead ppl.
Its a bad joke
@@juanpabloabriola7365 Its not the same. Dead people and women are not the same. I would much rather be dead than be a woman
The Incel is so far gone, I cringed every time he spoke.
stfu weeb
“Chemicaly speaking” (Derrick).
ChodeMaestro
"I've studies Evolutionary Biology quite a bit."
Oof.
@ChodeMaestro squadW my father beats me aswell
I genuinely found it difficult to finish the video because every time the incel spoke, it was like nails to a fucking chalkboard.
11:07 “I don’t think they actually focus on their rights and issues, but instead attack women and feminism.”
*O H T H E I R O N Y*
@strontiumXnitrate FEMINISTS FIGHT FOR GENDER EQUALITY / ABOLITION FOR FUCKS SAKE HOW CAN THIS ENTIRE COMMENT SECTION BE COMPOSED OF LITERAL BRAINDEAD 15 YEAR OLDS GOD
@@kbolternorris2676 why do people like you have to ruin every comment section
@@kbolternorris2676watch some dr.shaym videos
@@syn1cal252hey buddy, maybe reconsider being a centrist right winger piece of shit and people won't be angry at you for being a bigot eh? "oh you ruined the comment section" yeah of course I did, you're such a bigoted fuck you won't even question your nazi thoughts. Hey, why don't you pick a book and learn something instead of complaining? fucking gamers
@@kbolternorris2676 This has to be a troll account.
Derek just threw this for the entire men’s Side of the conversation so hard
That was the point of bringing him on.
Derek=thr omegalul w
leighton that’s not true in the slightest
@@nota4688 Dude, it is, Derrick occasionally brought up some good points, but most of it was just incel stuff.
Darkability he didn’t throw for the men’s side though. That would imply they lost overall. They didn’t
If derrick wasnt there the men would’ve taken a big W
They did take a big w 😂
even w out derrick it was trash
"I think women are more nuturing and should take care of children instead"
then later on
"why women win more custody battles than men???!!!"
plus the part where they were like "women get more job opportunities" but also "yeah men shouldnt be midwives" big mess
Even when Derrick was there, they still clearly took the W.
They took a huge dub
not rly but each to their own
The Incel guy could be talking about cars and the next second he would be talking about how to grow Colombian coffee in your garden
Imagine Tyler1 in the group of men
"Ok, Shut the fuck up you bitch let me talk"
I love how that one girl literally said an argument and when it was asked to be backed by ANY evidence at all, she gas lighted the guy.
I dont know about you, but I dont fucking walk around with a list of sources to show the gender spectrum is real
@@freddy-transbear nobody does that but if you're coming on a channel to discuss your views on something you should probably do research before you try to argue something as facts it's called being prepared smh this wasn't a random dude in the street catching her by surprise
@@freddy-transbear bruh, they ain't walking around. This is a debate, so they should be prepared to cite any sources they use in their argument.
@@freddy-transbear You seriously don't know what a debate is?! Now, that's pure fking gold.
@@freddy-transbear while your point is completely reasonable This was an interview She knew about probably days before going So she had the time to research to conduct her argument for feminism
Weird how the woman who immediately ties male activism to aggression is actually the most aggressive person in the room. Projecting perhaps?
An abundance of self-importance leads to a lack of self-awareness.
I haven’t even watched yet but I saw the incel guy and my pepelaughs are ready
Edit: OH NO NO NO
Seth Games OH NONO
Here it comes
I actually cringed whenever he talked
PepeLaugh
@@jmeistur2879 I had to FUCKING SKIP everytime he spoke
"why do we have to pay taxes for a medical necessity"
american hospitals: slowly walks away*
Your point? Both are wrong.
@@hannahbeth7631 elaborate
@@Ledgic-TM free healthcare isnt real in america
@@evig8510 that’s my point
@@evig8510 something like that would never work In America
"When You Hear The Word Mens Rights What Comes To Mind"
"I Start Laughing"
Wtf Is Wrong With These People
Mens rights are a given. Since themselves in american history always have the power it goes to them to give all rights to men automatically. For instance the right to vote or to be able to work. Its ironic to go for men's rights when there are so many other groups in much more need of them. I think.
@@flixhelix8039 holy fuck I know EXACTLY what you're talking about and you are the fucking problem
@@levantinedoomer2317 Jesus- I'm still pro men's right just saying its a given or to clarify most. I'm a guy my friend. Mind explaining though?
@Amirus yeah, patriarchy places an inmense pressure on so called men to perform as expected. Many times when people don't live up to what society expects mentall illness arises. Do some reading on feminism my guy
@Amirus "someone told me not to be a toxic fuck, oh bother" stop getting offended at literally everything you dick. Feminism strives for equality via a hard gender theory look, if you don't understand how that results in questioning "men" as a societal stereotype and not men as a person, AKA you, then don't critize it. Don't talk about shit you don't understand, Mr. Dunning Kruger
25:14 dude this guy needs to never be let into public
Wtf this man
@@MiabelovedI don't get it, what's wrong with him
@@arman6576 he is stupid and sexist obviously
@@arman6576 idk I don't like him because some of his points are very old in a way he wish for a patriarchy. But I recommend you do your own research and form your own opinions on the matter because at the end of the day it your opinion...
The fam, Derogatory Derrick, up to his incel antics again.
I'm weak (x
My fucking sides
Nobody:
Xqc: dued dued
DUDEUH
GUYES GUYES, DUED
Düd*
one tip for everyone, when trying to find common ground on hot topics do not keep bringing anecdotes into every one of your counter arguments or counter talking points!
Young Renegade true however people nowadays don’t wanna find common ground they want to bitch about something
Idgaf
12:24 Some guy said "derrick is throwing"
when the blue shirt guy said:
i felt that
I'm a strong independent frog feelsgoodman
Subbed for the name
Thank you
Widepeepohappy
The best gender to be right now
her:"there are many organizations"
him: "ok show me one"
her: "i dont have a list my dude"
I rly wonder why she doesn't have one🤔
Imagine calling one thing a list.
@@Ikedih yeah I really fucking wonder. You do realize it's the same as asking "name me 15 men's rights organizations" during a live debate GOD YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE SO FUCKING STUPID
@@kbolternorris2676 lol he didnt ask for a list he just asked for one mate, calm down.
@@kbolternorris2676 the guy has a point. It's not his fault you can't hear nor read. Really says a lot about feminism, don't you think?
These people will be talking about rights
While my mom and sister makes me do everything with the excuse that she’s a girl and she’s weak
Lmao kinda true
In my case my family make me do everything bc i’m a woman and i hace to be a productive women, i Think it depends of in wich enviroment you were born
The video stressed me out and lowered my lifespan
bro just go touch someone and you’ll live longer
@strontiumXnitrate r/w0000000000sh
Uhhh
“Can you name one feminist group that is like that?”
“I uNDerSTAnD yOU dId YoUr rEsEARcH bUT I diDNT bRiNG a LIsT” Pepega
It's little research don't forget to add the condescending tone
Didn't even give one LUL
Yo theesgirls dodging questions left and right, they should join a proffesional dodgeball team
LMAO
LOL
i think we all know they lost the argument
Matthew Van Tassel i genuinely dont think so the incel and the asian guy were horrible examples of mens rights activists the eu guy definitely beat them but the other two are stupid
@@ihysanti4224 i don't think so, that incel guy has some good points as well especially the society one, too far ahead atm. Plus that Asian guy also make some vital points regarding what men faces in different fields of life right now regarding jobs etc. But in the you need one good analyst to define the whole thing same for the eu guy, he singlehandedly cause havoc on other side.
12:23 "derrick is throwing" 😂😂😂😂😂
Dude that sums up this entire damn video. Men good arguments, Women good arguments, Derek…is throwing
Emotion Suppression, lack of physical touch, or person to confine to shortens life... well I have two years left in my life WidePeepoSad
@Berserker Berserker I find that men take better care of themselves when they are alone because there's not a woman there to do it for them. In many of the relationships I've seen and the married couple friends that I have, the woman is usually forced to often "mother" the man. Being coddled by anyone of course makes us humans lazy. But that's the most common power dynamic I've seen. It's a shame because nobody wants to have to mother a human that's not your child. Some couples have found the balance to live as equals but its rare
@Berserker Every person is different. Some people need companionship. Others dont 🤷🏻♀️
@hentai is 4 pedophiles hi feminist
The feminists were literally malding the whole time
i would respect their opinion and stance if they werent malding... about every 2 min one of the girls are throwing a fit
oppressed by taxes on tampons you hate to see it
So when a woman talks or more accurate raise their voices is malding? LMAO
Vinzenz Stein Ferrari Freitas no you idiot, they were literally just talking out of their asses most of the video, they were talking just to make noise with nothing to back up anything they were saying
@@jvr3746 Same as the guys... and nice start calling people idiot LUL
2:08 I love how he says all this fancy stuff and then the next guy says, hi I’m uh Derrick and he looks like he watches anime all day
Focusing on his looks is the biggest reason why guys become incels
Meme the pain away are you calling me an incel?
@@drakebrown9622 No i'm saying that you focusing on the incel's looks in the video is the biggest problem to them
You focusing on his look is the problem the incels talk about
@@levantinedoomer2317 except they blame other people for judging them on how they look, instead of realising it's their own fault they're a fat fuck.
Man listening to Derrick made me lose whats left of my braincells
They really need a mediator/middle ground for these things, having 3 people on each side who fully disagree with each other's philosphies are never going to result in a positive outcome.
Ikr. An example are these comments
That’s kind of the purpose of these videos, they don’t want a middle ground, they want controversy
"This random person, or random woman could be your best friend" *crickets*
Ventner yeah like. Does she understand a friend or family member isn’t just a random person
SquadW SHAMELESSNESS
thats not what she said
wage gap in a nutshell: take a man who does one week of full time work then take a woman who does a week of part time work. then compare what they were paid. That is the wage gap.
@Krioque they do, and have been since the 70's even though there actually is a law against discrimination
Krioque Along with what Ambrose said, men are statistically more likely to pursue higher positions, to focus on their jobs more than their work relationships, to take more risks, to be more competitive, to take less sick days, to take less vacation days.
And women still use the wage gap excuse. Sad.
@@grizzley6937 Yeah i mean my point was that when calculating the wage gap the only metric used is time and nothing else is taken into account.
Ambrose That’s also true yeah
Allyson Engle Well, many of these articles conflict each other. The New York Times article states that the men are the underpaid sex, while the Wired article states that it’s not the case. The Atlantic article just says that the women are paid less than men. Which is it? Plus, one of the sources is just the first thing that came up on google, ironically.
Also, which source is the source saying that there is a racial pay gap? None of the sources said so, or I may have missed something.
i like how her explanation on how she addvicates for mens rights consisted of her explaining the basic concept that a man can be abused, and then acting like such an obvious statement is so insanely helpful, while at the same time she wants men to preach in depth about womens problems that are also partially derived from just fake information
She said “I feel like when a movement is being created...” Feminism has been around for several years she just recently joined the third wave.
Years? You mean decades?
Fear The Fro feminism used to be PogU but now they’re crying over little stuff
they really got the incel episode guy on LMAO
They brought the incel guy to balance both sides.
One more 5Head and they would have demolished the Femenists and completely destroyed their egos. Did you see how that one girl almost started crying and putting words in the mouths of the Asian guy. Holy shit.
@@seppo6559 the feminists wouldnt lose because like you said they put words in their mouths to try and make men find guilt in themselves
Jose Nava SquadW
yeah, phD student and well spoken adult vs well spoken adult, emotional anecdote andy, and the grad student with the vocal fry is a balanced debate
chat is making me so angry like yeah she’s gonna be angry when talking abt being assaulted for just saying no to a man you would be too. so stop saying “triggered” as a joke bc it’s just invalidating her experience and making it seem less serious when it is, in fact a very serious and unfortunately common issue
@ men statistics for rape isn't close to women statistics. Not saying that people should ignore man and most of the time men rape allegations usually get laughed at but, the idea that the women anecdote isn't a reflection on what happens to most females is disingenuous.
@ i don’t think you realize that it is in fact very common for men to sexually assault women. for example, if you go to rainn.org (the largest anti-sexually assault organization in the US) and look up their statistics, you will see that the statistics for women to be raped is 1 of 6, and for men it is 1 of 33. and if those statistics only are about rape and are that high, then you can probably imagine how high the statistics are for sexual assault. i do completely understand where you are coming from and i think that it is very important to spread awareness about sexual assault and rape of men, but please do not use that argument as a way to invalidate a woman when she is a victim of sexual assault or rape. there is a time and place for everything.
@Ipsita Chatteejee exactly!!!!
@@strongbone9471 yes, thank you!!!!
Visibly Malding
Feminists: Have more emotion, talk more, understand us
Zack: When and Where
Feminist: YOU WOULDNT UNDERSTAND!
Tony Malott she didn’t even say that tho she was talking about harassment and had shared her own personal story and then he was like when and where but she’d literally just said
@@jadac6585 Those were completely valid questions.
@@jadac6585 he said how and why not when and where
@@jadac6585 He asked a fucking question. Instead she let emotions get the better of her and ranted at the guy. You can't keep defending the actions of the feminists on the video to make yourself feel better.
When she was talking about men getting abused I just saw one guy in chat “CBT” bless his soul
What’s. CBT?
@@malachi4838 It's a type of therapy I think
@Jerry uuuh idk my therapist said I should try it
When she spoke about men not being allowed to express emotions why did chat spam question marks? That’s actually a big issue for me sometimes WeirdChamp
I fucking feel you
Actually true. This is something that's well researched, men are not educated to be able to show emotions to the same extent as women, and it's the very basis of the concept of toxic masculinity. The word is just so misrepresented that it starts to sound bad
Because chat has biases and don't want to believe that the feminists here could say anything correct.
Chat likes to think they’re alphas that never show emotion and are the man of the house
canem prodigiosum am I wrong?
Xqc is going to live forever because he always lets out his emotions.
True, besides it is healthier to learn how to cope with emotions
"I see a place of anger from men activists"
Guy "what experiences"
Also women "HOW DARE YOU SAY MY EXPERIENCES ARE NOT VALID"
Like how tf this guy supposed to know some random lady got touched???
its not "some random lady" 81% of woman have experience some type of sexual harassment. i have been sexually harassed many times and when i report it they say boys will be boys
@@andreaverasamy8109 cool and he was asking for her specific experience, I didnt know 81% of women have the same experience😱
@@user-tv3ik9qi9x idk what that has to do with anything but okay.
@@andreaverasamy8109 except that survey was an opt-in online survey, so would obviously have massively inflated numbers, since who does a survey to say that *haven't* had something done to them. That also is in respect to even 1 incident within their entire lifetime, so that's hardly that bad. And if the people you tell say "boys will be boys", you're obviously still at school, which isn't reflective of any workplace or the real world, especially post MeToo
As a girl she shouldnt have gotten mad he literally asked
I just want to point out, that this woman said "I dont have a list !!MY DUDE!!". If any of those guys, would've brought a pointless statement like that, and ended it with "My girl", it would be seen as sexist. Just sayin.
@Ragnar u lowkey mad
@@zeni2432 lmao
10:08
Derrick at 100 years old: so thats was a fricking lie
TRUE LULW
I love how feminists say “men diminish us” but then they also said this guy “little research” when he took a lot of time to use facts and it’s important to him
IF WOMEN EARNED LESS FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK, COMPANIES WOULD ONLY HIRE WOMEN :)
Liam De Laet yo never thought about that. Thats a truer right there
well... actually... the reality is that men are actually paid less than they should be, and the employers hire women for even less money so that men won't complain about it! ^^
@@caro2233 Do you have some sources about that? I am intrigued. Is it factual or a highly speculative notion?
@@kirionj.a.w1147 it just bs from my part... :) - an attempt at making a joke... ^^
but, since you ask, i've watched a very interesting 'reality show' from the UK, where a few TV celebs (including one politician) spent a all week in the Victorian time.
they had to do all the dirty jobs the poor were doing, and living in the same conditions.
at some point one of the woman was told to spend the day being the 'manager' of the group. at the end of the day, they all got paid. but the woman manager, despite her doing a good job, only got 1/2 of what the men managers had received.
whatever the job, women were always being paid half of what a man would be paid.
still, employers always preferred paying a man double even though women labour was cheaper...
@@caro2233 I've seen that video thumbnail on my UA-cam feed some time ago. Well what a curious account, thank you.
All I’m going to say is equal rights means equal fights
Nah dude and if she were to press charges you really think the judge would say "equal rights equal fights"
yes
That's the point. He's exaggerating to clarify because they don't want to be equal they want to be protected with more entitlement.
squadW fam
@@KILLEMALLTWICE pog
The video in a nutshell:
Women: men do this, men do that and it's bad
Man: how
Women: someone chucked a water bottle at me once
Can say the men did any better there was a literal incel a borderline incel and the eu guy was honestly a good representation of mens rights activists
Lmao man i lold irl
Like xqc said, the incel was sort of needed cause the arguement would be very one sided without his idiotic self.
these comments shed a light on xqc's fans mainly being young men and teenage boys, the modern online perception of feminism as something evil that wants to bring down men is just false and i feel like most of them would agree with feminism as a whole if it wasnt so vocaly expressed online through trolls and extremists as this enemy of men
Young men and teenage boys are more for femenism the ons people are the ons that hate feminism
@Seth Belfort i meant to say was old people are the ones that hate it the most
Yikes this has to be a total troll video. 3:40 and the feminist already mentions “the wage gap,” an entirely fictional thing
bruh the wage gap is real, causation is debated, the causation is that women are far more likely to bear children and settle down and be a stay at home mom, this is something we can work for
Rising Glory By the wage gap I mean the idea that women make less hourly amounts for the EXACT same job and with the EXACT same qualifications as a male in the company.
@@risingglory4340 lol do you even know what the wage gap is supposed to mean?
I don't like the "wage gap" terminology. There is an "average earnings gap" between men and women. We should discuss the causes and effects of that fact, along with possible solutions.
King Andrew True, however, on average men sometimes makes more, because they’ve worked in that job longer and therefore obviously make more money. Men are also more likely to take risks, which is why there are more men in the stock market, and making businesses. Therefore there probably is a natural pay gap nationwide, but saying men make more than women doing the same thing, with the same education & work experience is fucking bullshit
“I know you came with your little research.” Oof
she was beaten and started throwing words lol
Eden Shorrocks even though she came with research too.
@@costakyriakou she didnt
3:21 She sounds like she is going to break down on the floor at any moment.
??????????????
victim andy
@@JimsyFlimsy when someone is about to cry you can hear a shaky voice, and voice trail after a sentence, and different tone. If you've herd someone cry, you would notice it too.
its a defense mechanism.its meant to make sure the men wont fight her back as hard
ErgoProxy12345 no it’s not it’s not that deep
5:32 men are just built different