I came across your channel on the Chinese version of TIKTOK and thought it was uploaded with help from someone else. It turns out to be you. If you want to make TIKTOK carefully, the content is very important, and it cannot be all food content.Shenzhen's electronic products not only include bargains, but also many high-end products. As long as you are willing to pay, you can buy the best products in the world. From screws to aircraft carriers, there is nothing that China cannot manufacture.Bargaining is possible in the wholesale market, and many are run by individuals. But if it is a large shopping mall, the price cannot be paid. Because large shopping malls are run by merchants, counteroffers are not allowed.
TURE!China has a saying“一分钱一分货”which means how much the item is worth, how good the quality it is.But overall, the quality of Made in China is getting better and better! After all, China has the most complete industrial chain, almost anything can be made in China.😂
The price is reasonable and there is no malicious quotation for foreigners. Although these small shops look small, they are supported by factories. For them, retail is not profitable, and their main source of income is wholesale goods. Of course, there are fake goods here, but they will tell you clearly that they are imitations and will not sell them to you at the price of genuine ones, so you can refer to the actual quotation. When buying electronic products in this market, what you need most is your own understanding of electronic products, because there are too many kinds of them.
As a Chinese to tell you this. They won't give you a bad price just because you are a foreigner, but if you let them know you are a novice in electronic equipment ,Then you'll be miserable it has nothing to do with nationality. So if you want to buy any thing in that kind of market Bargaining will be an important lesson
I really don't know why do you said they are fake goods. actually you know nothing about this market, they do have own brand, their feature is different. e.g. Can you say the drone he got is fake?
@@FrankZhang-pj9nn This market is more for wholesale though most sellers do sell retail. There are some counterfeited brands there but mostly are original brands.
I used to go there and bargain for stuffs when I was working there. I then got to know a seller and she told me that even if products looks the same, it is not because they get the cover from the same supplier. What is important is the components and workmanship inside. That determine how good the product is. Over the many times dealing with her, she will tell us which of the products have better components and which are not. So first, you need a reputable supplier who will tell you the facts and then get your stuff from them.
@@zingwibrothers they are there to make a living just like everybody else. when it gets to a point when they refused to sell, it means they're not making any money. Stop wasting their time and yours.
Honestly, 50 EUR isn't even enough for a decent meal. I am an engineer currently working on a translator device. It's amazing that these translator devices are priced at only 300 RMB+ when you consider the required components: LCD, battery, MCU, PCB, enclosure, speaker, etc. The material cost alone exceeds 100 RMB, not even accounting for development costs. Additionally, with packaging, logistics, warehousing, distribution, warranty backup parts, and seller profit, it's hard to understand how they're made so affordably in China.
Students in the Department of Electronic Technology in China usually buy an embedded development board, which usually has several different processors, from small system-free modules to large processors that can run Android or Linux. The chip periphery usually contains very rich interfaces or modules that can be driven directly, such as the bom you mentioned, which is usually included in it, and such a circuit board usually costs less than $20. There are some companies in China that provide free PCB services to students. When I provide a Gerber file, I will get the physical product within five days (if you live in an electronics industry center like Shenzhen, it can be faster).
I should remind you that a high-quality, professional drone usually costs 250 to 1000 Euros in China. If you buy one for only 18 Euros, it's obviously just a toy for children😂 so don't expect too much.
people who told you to bargain 70-80% are idiots. maybe you can get that for some crap stuff 1 in 100 tries or some tourist spot where they are asking $25 for a tshirt. you just have to use good judgement if something is already at a reasonable price.
That’s true. This electronic mall actually you can’t bargain much. They make very little profit of their products. It’s actually a wholesale electronic mall.
I purchased a lot of items from that market during the last two decades before anyone knew about it. Some sellers start with a very high price, which might be more than double the true price, but others are quite honest and quote the real price right away. Some vendors propose a high price when the buyer is unfamiliar with the pricing or the products, thus it is advisable for any buyer to learn about the product and its real price before approaching the shop for it. Another way is to go online and look for identical products sold on reliable ecommerce websites.
The profit margins in the electronics wholesale market are already very transparent, and there is not much room for price reduction, so the price you offer will not be accepted. Even if many products look the same, the materials used inside may be different in quality. Remember that you get what you pay for, this is an absolute truth.
The electric fan price is really incredible, even lower than the online price, the boss is definitely your friend. There is TEMU online in Germany. Germans can get the lowest price from there. Hope von der Leyen don't make trouble TEMU.
I don't like Temu because you have to pay the local taxes ! I don't like helping Wokeist governments in the west with my tax dollars that all goes to waste supporting American imperialist wars around the world !
you get what you paid, so don't just walk away when things are not cheap enough in your mind and then get something super cheap and then complain when it breaks after 1 use or a few...
You should appreciate that Chinese people are more tolerant and patient with guests. If this kind of price negotiation were directed at Chinese themselves, they would have been kicked out long ago for being rude and wasting each other's time
Interesting fact: 80% of the items at the Paris Olympics are made in China, including mascot toys, 5G and TV signal relays, and network cloud services are also provided by China.
In the age of the Internet, the quality and price of Chinese products have become transparent, and if you are afraid of buying a fake, you can consult the locals instead of relying on rumors from people who have not been here.
In fact, Chinese people do not bargain when buying things because we prefer online shopping, the price is much cheaper and it is very convenient to buy anything online. Foreigners are afraid of being cheated and will bargain
I'm living in Shenzhen for more than 20 years, all you see in the market are real one, especailly for the PC, Laptop and accessory. several years ago, I DIY my 1st PC for my kids in this market, the total cost is even more expensive than the famous brand (HP, DELL) because I select all the best parts, My PC's performace is also excellent and running 7 years with no problem. even for the headphone you mentioned as fake airpod, but they do have own brand (the local brand you don't know), they just looks similar to Airpod with the different quality level. but with more feature even than Airpod, they can connect with any Androd/Iphone and work pretty well. All you need do is to figure out which one has better quality and which has less quality. I usually asked my friend in the market who sold the shell for cellphone.
@@user-nr2eo6ec9u I don't think so because this is electronic market, they have the chip and PCB inside. the chip is different and PCB has less layer than well-known brands. also the OEM vendor is different. e.g., Apple's OEM vendor is FOXCONN, but FOXCONN has very strict scrap control process. usually these brand use unknown OEM because OEM fee is cheaper than FOXCONN. if you are talking about clothes, shoes, bags. they may be the fake one as they can use the same BOM with the real one.
@@zingwibrothers Eigentlich sind TaoBao oder Jingdong die besten Apps in China, um die Preise der Waren zu vergleichen. Aber eine andere Sache ist, dass der Kauf vor Ort normalerweise teurer ist als im Internet. Und solche Übersetzer ist im TaoBao oder Jingdong auch circa 200--300RMB.
There is no fake or authentic there because they are not claiming to be some brand or something. They are just normal electronic products from small or big factories nearby and have low or high quality accordingly. Just keep in mind that “ one penny paid then you get one penny worth goods”. And it feels like you still maintain some stereotype because you bargain with such low price like you preconceived that others are selling fake. Some dealers might feel really offended.
This small drone, which costs more than 100 RMB, is a toy for children and cannot be used to shoot videos. The remote control distance is estimated to be no more than 500 meters. If it flies away and cannot come back, you will say that Chinese products are of poor quality.
No worries, this is our first Drone so we didn’t want to buy an expensive one. We want to try it out see how we fly it, and then come back and get a better one👌🏼
@@zingwibrothers I actually own the drone that you bought in this video and it costs me a little more from temu. It is actually harder to fly this cheap drone compared to my more expensive atom se drone.
Indeed, watching these two guys' perception and behavior regarding so-called bargaining in the video is truly uncomfortable. It feels like you are two rookies who have never been in a professional market, just coming from primitive markets in Southeast Asia or India. You know nothing about how normal, mature commercial markets operate, yet you've picked up bad habits of chaotic bargaining, always thinking others will offer inflated prices or try to cheat you with fake goods. You simply don't understand the pricing system and operational mode of Shenzhen's mature, large-scale manufacturing and wholesale markets with international-level turnover. The haphazard bargaining behavior appears very unprofessional and disrespectful to the sellers, who may have booths with annual turnovers of tens or even hundreds of millions. Yet you guys even thinking you can negotiate to buy a single item at 80% or even half of the quoted price. As a result, You guys always end up buying low-end products at very low prices, which seems clever but is actually a very poor deal. This inappropriate bargaining behavior not only appears unprofessional but may also lead you to make unwise purchasing decisions.
Yes, in fact, the profit margin of these products is not high. Because they are not fake, they have certain quality. For example, the translator may use the iFlytek library.
I feel exactly the same way. It’s just waste money. And I hope they won’t just go back to Europe and say: oh the China production’s quality is bad. It’s so ridiculous.
As Chinese, when we buy electronic products, we will give priority to those with officially registered brands and the national CCC certification mark, so that its quality will be more guaranteed. You can also tell from the packaging that those with complete instructions and good quality boxes can be bought with confidence. It is a technical job to use a keen eye to pick out high-quality and low-priced products in a mixed market, and it is also the survival philosophy of Chinese buyers. Haha😊
The old saying goes in china, "There is no good product when it's cheap, and good products are not cheap!" I just want to say that if you go shopping with the idea of buying low-quality counterfeit goods instead of affordable products, you will always buy counterfeit goods wherever you go. You want "affordable price" in your mind, and say"fake product" in your mouth ,which make me feel very unpleasant. If they put on the brand label, can you still buy it at this price? The wholesale market itself has offered relatively low prices ,but you even cuts them in half. If I were a shop owner, I wouldn't want to talk to you at all because your quoted price have no sincerity.
I think you chose a wrong drone. It is for kids to play. The more expensive one with two cameras is for adult and filming. That lady tried to introduce that proper one for you, but you turned it down. Actually several hundreds RMB is already a wholesale price.
The stuff there like iPod earbuds are only copy. They have the lower quality and better quality for the consumers to choose from and prices are different. I bought the earbuds 1 year ago in this mall and I am still using. Still going fine.
I love shopping in North HuaQiang so much, as a Chinese I know how fair the price they offer, so usually I don’t bargain at the price 😊 . The product varies depends on how much you pay.
17:30 The seller has stated that if the item sells for 200 yuan, they will accept the current offer. The competition for selling electronic products in Shenzhen is highly intense. Sellers are able to discern whether you have negotiated the price for the same product based on your approach, resulting in a relatively low profit margin. While some items may not be counterfeit, such as defective products from Apple's manufacturing plant, it is important to note that Apple maintains strict quality control standards and any flawed products are not destroyed but rather circulated into the market. When it comes to computer accessories, if you can speak Chinese, you can directly inquire with the seller about whether their goods are genuine or counterfeit; they will provide an honest answer.
Keep in mind, they are there to make money so their business can survive, this is wholesale market, the profit margin is low to start with, they make money based on the quantity, the price you offer is very low, a bit insulting
This is a wholesale market, and a lot of the Indians you saw, they are importers, they come here to buy wholesale to the Indian market. That translator is very useful. It can be used when there is no Internet. You should buy one.😄
$30 for that translator was perfectly fine. Save that translator for emergency situations. Imagine if your phone dies because it ran out of battery. The translator would be really useful for trying to get help.
This shop mainly deals with wholesale merchants, not the tourist market, half-price discounts are not possible, and there is sufficient knowledge about electronic products.
I think the first thing we need to understand is the concept that imitations ≠ inferior products. Some counterfeit products even use the same solution as the genuine product, but the premise is that the price conforms to market rules. The suggestion is to have a prior understanding of the price range of the product you need on an electronic shopping platform, clarify the brand, and the required features. Instead of ignoring costs and demanding too much at extremely low prices.
In today's China, people are more willing to buy electronic products, especially those more expensive products, on online shopping platforms. Because the online shopping platform can provide genuine protection, as well as more convenient warranty after-sales service and return and exchange services. If you encounter quality problems, you can directly apply for repair, return or exchange online, and then send your product to the merchant, and then you can wait for the product to be returned to your hands. And people believe that the price of goods online is more affordable, not afraid of unscrupulous merchants, especially for buying personal computers.
@@zingwibrothers There are free phone apps can do exactly what this device does plus more! They can work offline without internet after the dictionary files have been downloaded into the phone. The good thing about phone apps is they are free, easily updatable and you can try use different ones if needed. Get a $5 wireless mic to work with the phone app to pick up the voice of the person who is speaking, this is much easier and cheaper too.
@@etow8034 Google is inaccessible in China, but Microsoft Translate, iGot, and there are many other phone apps work in China, some can work offline without Internet by downloading the dictionary files into the phone. Those standalone translation devices are expensive and they don't do as much or better than free phone apps. Just get a $5 wireless mic to use with the phone, it's much better than easier than expensive translation devices.
22:22 I have played with this kind of cheap drone. It is not as smart as the expensive ones. It is not suitable for beginners. It requires frequent practice to operate. It is easy to break. The battery life is not good. The camera pixel is low. It can only be regarded as a child's toy. Buying DJI's expensive brand drone is very easy to use. Even if you don't know how to operate a drone, you will have a fool-proof smart follow-up.
I am from Macau and go to Mainland China very often. I don't bargain when I shop and I think most local people don't. Tourists get an impression that they have to do that and to be honest, I don't appreciate that.
You can bargain many times but through this they will know you are novice in electronics because you don't have an exact price in your own mind (you can't tell how much the item truly worth), while just trying to get as lower price as possible.Then they know they should insist their price and they don't mind lose one customer because they usually do wholesales. It is a psychological gamble.
The video of you two brothers is so interesting. Huaqiangbei Market is undoubtedly one of the largest electronic markets in the world, but there are also obvious classifications in the market. The shipment volume here is huge, and the prices are clearly stipulated. Your bid determines the quality of the items. There are many second-hand products here, and there are also many high-imitation products. All prices are within a reasonable range. Pay attention to identification. , will always support you!🎉🎉
In the Shenzhen electronic market, there is intense competition between them, so prices will not drop significantly. When they refuse to sell, it means they are not making money😂
btw its not fake, its 100% real, most factory is from china, so no transport fee etc2, n some from left over from same company, some even before its release officially.
wow. that translator is much better than Google translate. it much closer to the meaning you want to explain. I want to buy one for my mom. if you want to do a deep travel through China. get that translator will be better.
Man, you didn't check the video quality of the drone! That's the most important feature of this kind of devices. I know it's cheap enough for people to ignore many features, but in China, we tend to buy things with low price and expect fair quality, otherwise, we go for DJI directly.
Step 1 : Ask for highest quality expensive product Step 2 : Be shocked after the price reveal Step 3 : Ask for medium quality better price Step 4 : Repeat Step 2 Step 5 : Bargain as per your pocket Suggestion : Avoid buying very cheap electronics, they will stop working in a day or two.
@@zingwibrothers that thing is unacceptable, regardless of the price, you should ask for after sale service. or you might not use it correctly or run out of battery, you can look up the instruction to see if it can work well again
for drone, DJI (also from shenzhen) is the gold standard but it costs 20x more than what you guys paid for. autel or yuneec are also in a similar class as DJI.
Yep! I wouldn't risk getting anything from SZ that is high power/risk. Like things that can catch fire or mission critical that might leave me stranded somewhere. Them little camera are cool though. Got one for my friend's toddler and its still working apparently. The fan, the 75K rpm ones are amazing! They are using calculators because they don't want the other vendors to know what they are selling things for otherwise there will be a price war that can turn other stores against them or destroy their price market.
It seems that you are still in the information misunderstanding. I don't want to explain too much about the quality and quality of the product here, because I can't wake up people who are sleeping. You only need to think about why the United States wants to suppress China. Secondly, using a calculator to enter the price is only because most sellers don't speak English, and it has nothing to do with other things.
@@Whereareyoufrom-iz1mk No, I can speak Mandarin and they still use the calculator with me. There are some amazing Chinese products but there are still some counterfeits or risky products. The guy literally said in the video that he had a charger fail on him. Bro, I shop on Toaboa all the time as well as Huaqiangbei.
I hope you enjoyed the bargaining. An interesting thing from the “business woman” was that she offered a price of 520RMB for the better quality drone. The pronunciation of 520 is similar to “I love you” in mandarin ❤, and chinese couples like to give red envelop with that amount of money to each other to express their love.
Even for students, this bargaining is rude and stupid. Chinese people are generally more friendly and kind and don't get angry with you, but stop being arrogant.
How much do you think this will cost you if you buy it from somewhere else? Say Europe, my educated guess they will sell this at a price of more than 150 EUR. Correct me if I’m wrong.
What a Bargain!!😂 What Do You Guys Think About the Prices we got ?
Don't have too high expectations, this kind of drone is usually bought as a toy for children.
I came across your channel on the Chinese version of TIKTOK and thought it was uploaded with help from someone else. It turns out to be you. If you want to make TIKTOK carefully, the content is very important, and it cannot be all food content.Shenzhen's electronic products not only include bargains, but also many high-end products. As long as you are willing to pay, you can buy the best products in the world. From screws to aircraft carriers, there is nothing that China cannot manufacture.Bargaining is possible in the wholesale market, and many are run by individuals. But if it is a large shopping mall, the price cannot be paid. Because large shopping malls are run by merchants, counteroffers are not allowed.
The drones you bought can only be used as toys, not like DJI products with the ability of high-pixel aerial photography, or do some maneuvers.
买电子产品不能单比价格，性能和质量才是最划算的，质量好的能用很久而且还有保修，算起来还更便宜
其实，在深圳，市场价格非常透明，别人报价，你要么接受要么找另一家。根本没必要讨价还价，非常浪费双方的时间。可以说，这里不流行所谓的讨价还价文化。
Products made in China are worth every penny.Low price and low quality, high price and high quality.Depends on you Demand.
Makes sense!
@@zingwibrothers It was supposed to be! Poor people always blame Chinese products is low quality, they should blame theirs "wallet".
@@Ben-qe8cxtrue ❤
这个价钱也就是买给孩子玩的，如果想提高视频水平，还是买个好点的，价钱贵一些它的性能也不同，一分钱一分货
TURE!China has a saying“一分钱一分货”which means how much the item is worth, how good the quality it is.But overall, the quality of Made in China is getting better and better! After all, China has the most complete industrial chain, almost anything can be made in China.😂
The price is reasonable and there is no malicious quotation for foreigners. Although these small shops look small, they are supported by factories. For them, retail is not profitable, and their main source of income is wholesale goods. Of course, there are fake goods here, but they will tell you clearly that they are imitations and will not sell them to you at the price of genuine ones, so you can refer to the actual quotation.
When buying electronic products in this market, what you need most is your own understanding of electronic products, because there are too many kinds of them.
True
As a Chinese to tell you this. They won't give you a bad price just because you are a foreigner, but if you let them know you are a novice in electronic equipment ,Then you'll be miserable it has nothing to do with nationality. So if you want to buy any thing in that kind of market Bargaining will be an important lesson
Thanks for sharing! We believe that the money is in the big exports
I really don't know why do you said they are fake goods. actually you know nothing about this market, they do have own brand, their feature is different. e.g. Can you say the drone he got is fake?
@@FrankZhang-pj9nn
This market is more for wholesale though most sellers do sell retail. There are some counterfeited brands there but mostly are original brands.
I used to go there and bargain for stuffs when I was working there. I then got to know a seller and she told me that even if products looks the same, it is not because they get the cover from the same supplier. What is important is the components and workmanship inside. That determine how good the product is. Over the many times dealing with her, she will tell us which of the products have better components and which are not. So first, you need a reputable supplier who will tell you the facts and then get your stuff from them.
Thanks for sharing!!
@@zingwibrothers they are there to make a living just like everybody else. when it gets to a point when they refused to sell, it means they're not making any money. Stop wasting their time and yours.
Honestly, 50 EUR isn't even enough for a decent meal. I am an engineer currently working on a translator device. It's amazing that these translator devices are priced at only 300 RMB+ when you consider the required components: LCD, battery, MCU, PCB, enclosure, speaker, etc. The material cost alone exceeds 100 RMB, not even accounting for development costs. Additionally, with packaging, logistics, warehousing, distribution, warranty backup parts, and seller profit, it's hard to understand how they're made so affordably in China.
This is a testament to the impressive capabilities of China's supply chain and research and development innovations.
所有的东西都来自于成熟的制造供应链，你要知道全世界最发的的电子批发市场就是这里，所以你会看到来自很多国家的经销商来这里批量订购
This is the professional
Students in the Department of Electronic Technology in China usually buy an embedded development board, which usually has several different processors, from small system-free modules to large processors that can run Android or Linux. The chip periphery usually contains very rich interfaces or modules that can be driven directly, such as the bom you mentioned, which is usually included in it, and such a circuit board usually costs less than $20. There are some companies in China that provide free PCB services to students. When I provide a Gerber file, I will get the physical product within five days (if you live in an electronics industry center like Shenzhen, it can be faster).
I should remind you that a high-quality, professional drone usually costs 250 to 1000 Euros in China. If you buy one for only 18 Euros, it's obviously just a toy for children😂 so don't expect too much.
It irks me that the layman has no understanding what the the term "Quality" even means !
其实你们错过的就是翻译机，因为你们要世界各地旅行，对你们俩是最实惠的，因为它不需要借助于网络就能翻译，而且支持许多国家的语言。
people who told you to bargain 70-80% are idiots. maybe you can get that for some crap stuff 1 in 100 tries or some tourist spot where they are asking $25 for a tshirt. you just have to use good judgement if something is already at a reasonable price.
That’s true. This electronic mall actually you can’t bargain much. They make very little profit of their products. It’s actually a wholesale electronic mall.
The previous markets we’ve been to, was like that so we thought it was a general thing to do in markets in China
The retail market allows for a lot of counter-offering, but the wholesale market has very little.
I purchased a lot of items from that market during the last two decades before anyone knew about it. Some sellers start with a very high price, which might be more than double the true price, but others are quite honest and quote the real price right away. Some vendors propose a high price when the buyer is unfamiliar with the pricing or the products, thus it is advisable for any buyer to learn about the product and its real price before approaching the shop for it. Another way is to go online and look for identical products sold on reliable ecommerce websites.
The phone translator market range for a Xiaomi brand is about $40+ USD on average @@zingwibrothers
The profit margins in the electronics wholesale market are already very transparent, and there is not much room for price reduction, so the price you offer will not be accepted. Even if many products look the same, the materials used inside may be different in quality. Remember that you get what you pay for, this is an absolute truth.
The electric fan price is really incredible, even lower than the online price, the boss is definitely your friend. There is TEMU online in Germany. Germans can get the lowest price from there. Hope von der Leyen don't make trouble TEMU.
Great to Hear! Yes temu is famous in Germany
this is a wholesales market
I don't like Temu because you have to pay the local taxes ! I don't like helping Wokeist governments in the west with my tax dollars that all goes to waste supporting American imperialist wars around the world !
政客就是用来给人民添堵的😂再加30%税！
The margin should be not so large when you get a price from wholesale market.
you get what you paid, so don't just walk away when things are not cheap enough in your mind and then get something super cheap and then complain when it breaks after 1 use or a few...
You should appreciate that Chinese people are more tolerant and patient with guests. If this kind of price negotiation were directed at Chinese themselves, they would have been kicked out long ago for being rude and wasting each other's time
我擦…这翻译器水平比我好，居然用成语，我只会说我没钱，它说我身无分文🙁
翻譯機把窮翻譯成“身無分文”，是錯誤的翻譯被你發現啦！🤣🤣🤣 俺幫翻譯機更正一下“成語”，窮=囊中羞澀 😂😂😂
身无分文还来买东西，难道想零元购😂🤣🤣
LOL
@@user-ex5jv1wc3t 他们说他们"broke"(没钱)，说的不是 "poor"(钱少)，翻译机翻译的是对的哦，而且更有文采。
Instead of fan you would have bought translator, it will be more useful to rome in china
So true! We need to get one!!!😂
years ago most of seller in huaqiangnei can speakking English, untill it become to Cosmetics malls
兄弟们，我很喜欢你们的视频，我看了差不多全部视频，你俩幽默，善良，但是下次不要在批发市场讲价了😂
-¥20已经很多了
145 RMB is the price of a child's toy. Don't have too high expectations. If you need aerial photography, DJI is the best choice.
这两个人讨价还价的风格很像印度人。
Lmao. Indians are also caucasoids. Same race. 😂
他俩说啦是从埃及练过🤣🤣
Interesting fact: 80% of the items at the Paris Olympics are made in China, including mascot toys, 5G and TV signal relays, and network cloud services are also provided by China.
Interesting
80%? impossible, probably 8%
Apple has to move the production line from India back to China.
@@roseliu102 YES
@@roseliu102 Nice to know. Do you know why?
深圳华强北电子市场，世界上最大的电子市场，每天都有新的电子产品出现，甚至还有安卓系统的苹果手机😂，这个翻译器非常好😂。
Crazy 😂 definitely a must visit
原来这是华强北，久仰大名还没见过
@@NannQinn
已经存在了二十年。
you make me lol
我猜你在埃及应该受了不少骗，在中国，首先任何东西基本都有价格且标识出来了，不存在欺骗客户，买不买取决于你。电子器械你可以直接问他们是不是假货，都会告诉你。你们一开始砍的太狠了，要不是看你外国人不了解，脾气不好的人直接骂你了，估计会以为你是来捣乱的😂。
哈哈 说的对 我们国人不会讲价 因为电商买更方便更便宜 但是外国人怕受骗会讲价😂
@@凌玬蒙-e7p 夸张了，任何市场都会讲价，挂个闲鱼都有问能不能刀的
@@hsinwu4970 直接砍7成，脾气再好也忍不了吧？把老板当猴耍呢
@@hsinwu4970 近年来的电商购物狂潮一点也不夸张。难道你感觉不到日常生活的变化吗?闲鱼是一个网络平台。中国发达的互联网生活方式非常方便，他们不了解这里的环境，所以当外国人来中国购物时，我们中国人理解他们
In the age of the Internet, the quality and price of Chinese products have become transparent, and if you are afraid of buying a fake, you can consult the locals instead of relying on rumors from people who have not been here.
locals are belive online shopping but not local store, they can easy refound or replace/repair
兄弟，我想你对这些市场产品的利润有误解，现在中国的产品价格很透明的，所以报价和成交价不会差很多的。
你这说的。他们又不是中国人哪知道中国市场行情价格透明啥的，他们会讨价还价 就已经很不错了。
Thanks for sharing!
In fact, Chinese people do not bargain when buying things because we prefer online shopping, the price is much cheaper and it is very convenient to buy anything online. Foreigners are afraid of being cheated and will bargain
the guy who said 200 meant he would buy from you if you sell him for 200, which means the cost is higher than 200
这在中国讨价还价中倒是很常见，老板说，这个价格，你有，你拿过来，我收。潜台词就是，现在谈论的价格，连成本价都没到。意思就是顾客还价还的太多了。
I'm living in Shenzhen for more than 20 years, all you see in the market are real one, especailly for the PC, Laptop and accessory. several years ago, I DIY my 1st PC for my kids in this market, the total cost is even more expensive than the famous brand (HP, DELL) because I select all the best parts, My PC's performace is also excellent and running 7 years with no problem. even for the headphone you mentioned as fake airpod, but they do have own brand (the local brand you don't know), they just looks similar to Airpod with the different quality level. but with more feature even than Airpod, they can connect with any Androd/Iphone and work pretty well. All you need do is to figure out which one has better quality and which has less quality. I usually asked my friend in the market who sold the shell for cellphone.
I heard that some materials are made from the same materials as well-known brands
@@user-nr2eo6ec9u I don't think so because this is electronic market, they have the chip and PCB inside. the chip is different and PCB has less layer than well-known brands. also the OEM vendor is different. e.g., Apple's OEM vendor is FOXCONN, but FOXCONN has very strict scrap control process. usually these brand use unknown OEM because OEM fee is cheaper than FOXCONN. if you are talking about clothes, shoes, bags. they may be the fake one as they can use the same BOM with the real one.
@@FrankZhang-pj9nn 👍
Translators cost about 290 to 350 ,depending on the functions and languages provided on Tao bao .
You guys use it a lot ?
I bought one from Taobao. Only for travel aboard. functions are good.
@@zingwibrothers Eigentlich sind TaoBao oder Jingdong die besten Apps in China, um die Preise der Waren zu vergleichen. Aber eine andere Sache ist, dass der Kauf vor Ort normalerweise teurer ist als im Internet. Und solche Übersetzer ist im TaoBao oder Jingdong auch circa 200--300RMB.
@@JH-pb9ps 翻译器会比手机翻译好吗？？？ 你用什么牌子的？
會準確些。為免以為我是賣翻譯機的人，不會推薦牌子或機款。請諒！
There are both original and fake. You can ask, they won't lie. They tell you what it is.
Wow really ?
@@zingwibrothers They don't cheat, They just sell what it is. You can just ask if it's original or fake.
如果商标也是对的，那肯定是正品。有我这种允许你们摄像的地方，不会以假乱真的。
@@canalesjuan356 能在华强北做档口的都是有工厂供货的，只是看什么品牌而已
@@zingwibrothers 只能说你们对深圳太不了解了。靠卖假货，能有华强北？
要知道便宜没好货，既然想便宜那就要接受它的劣质，要想品质好选大疆准没错😂
There is no fake or authentic there because they are not claiming to be some brand or something. They are just normal electronic products from small or big factories nearby and have low or high quality accordingly. Just keep in mind that “ one penny paid then you get one penny worth goods”. And it feels like you still maintain some stereotype because you bargain with such low price like you preconceived that others are selling fake. Some dealers might feel really offended.
This small drone, which costs more than 100 RMB, is a toy for children and cannot be used to shoot videos. The remote control distance is estimated to be no more than 500 meters. If it flies away and cannot come back, you will say that Chinese products are of poor quality.
There is a famous saying that you get what you pay for.
@@user-es8dx4os1d even the return home function couldn’t help.I doubt it have this function 😂
No worries, this is our first Drone so we didn’t want to buy an expensive one. We want to try it out see how we fly it, and then come back and get a better one👌🏼
@@zingwibrothers I actually own the drone that you bought in this video and it costs me a little more from temu. It is actually harder to fly this cheap drone compared to my more expensive atom se drone.
@@zingwibrothers . Most probably the drone that you just bought has a remote sensor of no more than 500m distance. 😂
在美国，老板早掏枪了🤣
在美国, 直接零元购了😂
Hahahahahahahaaha
😂😂😂
Indeed, watching these two guys' perception and behavior regarding so-called bargaining in the video is truly uncomfortable.
It feels like you are two rookies who have never been in a professional market, just coming from primitive markets in Southeast Asia or India. You know nothing about how normal, mature commercial markets operate, yet you've picked up bad habits of chaotic bargaining, always thinking others will offer inflated prices or try to cheat you with fake goods.
You simply don't understand the pricing system and operational mode of Shenzhen's mature, large-scale manufacturing and wholesale markets with international-level turnover. The haphazard bargaining behavior appears very unprofessional and disrespectful to the sellers, who may have booths with annual turnovers of tens or even hundreds of millions. Yet you guys even thinking you can negotiate to buy a single item at 80% or even half of the quoted price.
As a result, You guys always end up buying low-end products at very low prices, which seems clever but is actually a very poor deal. This inappropriate bargaining behavior not only appears unprofessional but may also lead you to make unwise purchasing decisions.
Yes, in fact, the profit margin of these products is not high. Because they are not fake, they have certain quality. For example, the translator may use the iFlytek library.
I feel exactly the same way. It’s just waste money. And I hope they won’t just go back to Europe and say: oh the China production’s quality is bad. It’s so ridiculous.
哈哈哈…還是漂亮小姐姐的魅力大，以顏值取勝讓你們兄弟倆掏錢成功交易啦！👍👍👍 😂😂😂 希望產品的品質也同樣讓你們滿意呀！😊😊😊😄😄😄
Chinese bargain skills were quite good😂💪🏼 so far we happy with what we bought
万一人家gay的，你该多尴尬。
@@nggjfh gay也喜欢看好看的小姐姐啊
As Chinese, when we buy electronic products, we will give priority to those with officially registered brands and the national CCC certification mark, so that its quality will be more guaranteed. You can also tell from the packaging that those with complete instructions and good quality boxes can be bought with confidence. It is a technical job to use a keen eye to pick out high-quality and low-priced products in a mixed market, and it is also the survival philosophy of Chinese buyers. Haha😊
翻译机的作用是离线，不需要网络
Ha ha ha, you two are so funny.I see you are enjoying your trip to China more and more.❤
The old saying goes in china, "There is no good product when it's cheap, and good products are not cheap!"
I just want to say that if you go shopping with the idea of buying low-quality counterfeit goods instead of affordable products, you will always buy counterfeit goods wherever you go.
You want "affordable price" in your mind, and say"fake product" in your mouth ,which make me feel very unpleasant. If they put on the brand label, can you still buy it at this price?
The wholesale market itself has offered relatively low prices ,but you even cuts them in half. If I were a shop owner, I wouldn't want to talk to you at all because your quoted price have no sincerity.
Most of things are real, they are actually OEM to some brands, so they can sell the products but not under those brands.
Again, those of the authentic brands could be second hands..
However the HP shop is authentic.
I think you chose a wrong drone. It is for kids to play. The more expensive one with two cameras is for adult and filming. That lady tried to introduce that proper one for you, but you turned it down. Actually several hundreds RMB is already a wholesale price.
你们可能觉得是在合理的讨价还价，可在我看来你们展示出的是无知和无礼
The translation is so accurate! Even I don’t need it , but I want one!
The stuff there like iPod earbuds are only copy. They have the lower quality and better quality for the consumers to choose from and prices are different. I bought the earbuds 1 year ago in this mall and I am still using. Still going fine.
I heard that some materials are made from the same materials as well-known brands
這種商城都是以批發為主，零售為輔，他們的報價一般都會低於零售店的價格，所以可還價的空間不會太大，然而，好不容易走一趟這裡，你們應該購買一些大品牌高質量的商品，那樣相對能省下的錢更多哦
I love shopping in North HuaQiang so much, as a Chinese I know how fair the price they offer, so usually I don’t bargain at the price 😊 . The product varies depends on how much you pay.
17:30 The seller has stated that if the item sells for 200 yuan, they will accept the current offer.
The competition for selling electronic products in Shenzhen is highly intense. Sellers are able to discern whether you have negotiated the price for the same product based on your approach, resulting in a relatively low profit margin. While some items may not be counterfeit, such as defective products from Apple's manufacturing plant, it is important to note that Apple maintains strict quality control standards and any flawed products are not destroyed but rather circulated into the market. When it comes to computer accessories, if you can speak Chinese, you can directly inquire with the seller about whether their goods are genuine or counterfeit; they will provide an honest answer.
Keep in mind, they are there to make money so their business can survive, this is wholesale market, the profit margin is low to start with, they make money based on the quantity, the price you offer is very low, a bit insulting
The electric fan cost 198 in Hong Kong. You bought it for just 60. wow.
These sellers are trying to feed their families. Support them.
It is only 9.9 yuan online
@@FeilongzaiIt's definitely something of different quality😂
This is a wholesale market, and a lot of the Indians you saw, they are importers, they come here to buy wholesale to the Indian market. That translator is very useful. It can be used when there is no Internet. You should buy one.😄
$30 for that translator was perfectly fine. Save that translator for emergency situations. Imagine if your phone dies because it ran out of battery. The translator would be really useful for trying to get help.
3:51 😂😂that is halirious！Our chinese often use“im student could i get a student discount”this is more of a line we use not that we actually stuents.
Hahaha the famous student discount try 😅😂
This shop mainly deals with wholesale merchants, not the tourist market, half-price discounts are not possible, and there is sufficient knowledge about electronic products.
I think the first thing we need to understand is the concept that imitations ≠ inferior products. Some counterfeit products even use the same solution as the genuine product, but the premise is that the price conforms to market rules. The suggestion is to have a prior understanding of the price range of the product you need on an electronic shopping platform, clarify the brand, and the required features. Instead of ignoring costs and demanding too much at extremely low prices.
In today's China, people are more willing to buy electronic products, especially those more expensive products, on online shopping platforms. Because the online shopping platform can provide genuine protection, as well as more convenient warranty after-sales service and return and exchange services. If you encounter quality problems, you can directly apply for repair, return or exchange online, and then send your product to the merchant, and then you can wait for the product to be returned to your hands. And people believe that the price of goods online is more affordable, not afraid of unscrupulous merchants, especially for buying personal computers.
those store look like for some company to order but not sell to custmers
translater is no need internet, wifi. Good for the travelers.
Yes that’s why we think it’s a cool gadget
You also don't need internet for Google translate as well. They have an addon app for offline translations.
@@zingwibrothers
There are free phone apps can do exactly what this device does plus more! They can work offline without internet after the dictionary files have been downloaded into the phone. The good thing about phone apps is they are free, easily updatable and you can try use different ones if needed. Get a $5 wireless mic to work with the phone app to pick up the voice of the person who is speaking, this is much easier and cheaper too.
@@etow8034
Google is inaccessible in China, but Microsoft Translate, iGot, and there are many other phone apps work in China, some can work offline without Internet by downloading the dictionary files into the phone. Those standalone translation devices are expensive and they don't do as much or better than free phone apps. Just get a $5 wireless mic to use with the phone, it's much better than easier than expensive translation devices.
你们喜欢讨价还价，商家完全没有利润可言，希望你们能够理解别人的不容易！
22:22 I have played with this kind of cheap drone. It is not as smart as the expensive ones. It is not suitable for beginners. It requires frequent practice to operate. It is easy to break. The battery life is not good. The camera pixel is low. It can only be regarded as a child's toy. Buying DJI's expensive brand drone is very easy to use. Even if you don't know how to operate a drone, you will have a fool-proof smart follow-up.
别为难他们了，他们好像真的很穷😅
this toy drones can only finish one features that fly😂
I am from Macau and go to Mainland China very often. I don't bargain when I shop and I think most local people don't.
Tourists get an impression that they have to do that and to be honest, I don't appreciate that.
砍价很常见啊，主要是这两个人不怎么会砍
玩呗 不合适就算了
You bought a toy drone but at a good price. Good drone in China around 20,000 RMB
60 rmb👍🏻Really good price👏🏻👏🏻I brought the similar one 75rmb
Good good 👍🏼
越来越高产了，请继续保持，你俩充满阳光魅力！
Welcome!
3:47 "I am broke " 😂😂😂 funny
You can bargain many times but through this they will know you are novice in electronics because you don't have an exact price in your own mind (you can't tell how much the item truly worth), while just trying to get as lower price as possible.Then they know they should insist their price and they don't mind lose one customer because they usually do wholesales. It is a psychological gamble.
兄弟，100元的无人机，就是给小孩玩的玩具，怕是用不到几次就要坠毁，旅游用的无人机还得是大疆
Man! I fell in love with the girl who sold you the drone. You have to tell me where to find her store.
这两人确实太穷了，买这种廉价无人机航拍，到时候搞不好还要吐槽中国产品质量不好
Damn, that drone sales lady is very cool when she shakes hand for deal.
The video of you two brothers is so interesting. Huaqiangbei Market is undoubtedly one of the largest electronic markets in the world, but there are also obvious classifications in the market. The shipment volume here is huge, and the prices are clearly stipulated. Your bid determines the quality of the items. There are many second-hand products here, and there are also many high-imitation products. All prices are within a reasonable range. Pay attention to identification. , will always support you!🎉🎉
给你们讲一个真实的现状，大部分初次到中国的外国游客，他们被中国大量的廉价商品所吸引，买了一大堆，但是多次到中国的外国人，会买中国最好的品牌的电器产品，比如大疆（无人机或自拍器），华为，等等好多，保证你买了不会后悔。
In the Shenzhen electronic market, there is intense competition between them, so prices will not drop significantly. When they refuse to sell, it means they are not making money😂
Very good travel video, I hope you two brothers continue to create it,
Bargaining like this in a foreign country is considered shameful by the Chinese, if you don't have money you should earn enough money to travel again
？？？？？
Both girl so beautiful.🥰❤😍
这对德国兄弟观感越来越好了，越来越喜欢他们了，希望C哥身体健健康康❤
btw its not fake, its 100% real, most factory is from china, so no transport fee etc2, n some from left over from same company, some even before its release officially.
wow. that translator is much better than Google translate. it much closer to the meaning you want to explain.
I want to buy one for my mom.
if you want to do a deep travel through China. get that translator will be better.
这不是假货市场，大多是新创和仿制品
Man, you didn't check the video quality of the drone! That's the most important feature of this kind of devices. I know it's cheap enough for people to ignore many features, but in China, we tend to buy things with low price and expect fair quality, otherwise, we go for DJI directly.
7:05 You two rounds of bargaining have really been a showstopper😂😂😂hahaha
如果是衣服鞋子，可以尝试这样讲价。但是电子产品溢价并没有很高，加上这里店租贵，如果太低价他们没钱赚甚至亏本，肯定不愿意出售。而且这里虽然有假货，但大部分产品并不是假货。这些商品会出现在亚马逊等国外购物平台，但价格是这里的好几倍
As the old saying goes in China, you get what you pay for. Don't expect to do with a dollar what you can do with a hundred.
其實冇所謂，最緊要自己開心 😄，我相信你們都係買嚟玩一吓，拍視頻未必一定要用無人機，旅行期間開心就可以👍，我都係睇你視頻好開心😂😂，所以繼續追看🤩！
Step 1 : Ask for highest quality expensive product
Step 2 : Be shocked after the price reveal
Step 3 : Ask for medium quality better price
Step 4 : Repeat Step 2
Step 5 : Bargain as per your pocket
Suggestion : Avoid buying very cheap electronics, they will stop working in a day or two.
Like our Powerbank what we bought ☹️
@@zingwibrothers that thing is unacceptable, regardless of the price, you should ask for after sale service. or you might not use it correctly or run out of battery, you can look up the instruction to see if it can work well again
Their profit margins are already very low, so it's hard to bargain.
Pretty girls there 😍
Noah lost his heard in this market
@@zingwibrothershahaha apparently
这种无人机应该小朋友玩的吧😂
Do you have a TikTok account in Chinese TikTok version? I just saw an account but was not sure if that was you
Yes sir
是的 视频里说了，我刚去抖音搜了，已经一千多粉丝了🎉
Chinese products meet different levels of needs, but you get what you pay for.
The cover is attractive😂🎉🎉
he said, if you were to sell him at 200, he would buy it from u
你们不买个翻译器真是亏大了，看得出来你们在视频中大多时候沟通都比较困难，有个翻译器你们在旅行中才能更好融入到环境里，而且现在中国的年轻人基本不会讨价还价，因为在国内基本都是网上购物更多，而且价格更透明更便宜，在我看来那几个老板因为你们是外国人，已经很照顾你们了，他们特别耐心且给了很便宜的价格😊
for drone, DJI (also from shenzhen) is the gold standard but it costs 20x more than what you guys paid for. autel or yuneec are also in a similar class as DJI.
You are using the translation function of the translation machine to purchase a translation machine, hhh
Hahahahaha so funny
Funnier if the seller used the translation device to say, "Go away otherwise I call the police."
Yep! I wouldn't risk getting anything from SZ that is high power/risk. Like things that can catch fire or mission critical that might leave me stranded somewhere.
Them little camera are cool though. Got one for my friend's toddler and its still working apparently.
The fan, the 75K rpm ones are amazing!
They are using calculators because they don't want the other vendors to know what they are selling things for otherwise there will be a price war that can turn other stores against them or destroy their price market.
It seems that you are still in the information misunderstanding. I don't want to explain too much about the quality and quality of the product here, because I can't wake up people who are sleeping. You only need to think about why the United States wants to suppress China. Secondly, using a calculator to enter the price is only because most sellers don't speak English, and it has nothing to do with other things.
@@Whereareyoufrom-iz1mk No, I can speak Mandarin and they still use the calculator with me.
There are some amazing Chinese products but there are still some counterfeits or risky products. The guy literally said in the video that he had a charger fail on him.
Bro, I shop on Toaboa all the time as well as Huaqiangbei.
3:57 可爱捏
I hope you enjoyed the bargaining. An interesting thing from the “business woman” was that she offered a price of 520RMB for the better quality drone. The pronunciation of 520 is similar to “I love you” in mandarin ❤, and chinese couples like to give red envelop with that amount of money to each other to express their love.
Even for students, this bargaining is rude and stupid. Chinese people are generally more friendly and kind and don't get angry with you, but stop being arrogant.
Yet, you'd happily buy an iphone for over 1000 eur which actually only costs 100 eur max....
How much do you think this will cost you if you buy it from somewhere else? Say Europe, my educated guess they will sell this at a price of more than 150 EUR. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Yes 100% price there will be more expensive 😂 just think of the import cost alone they will make it expensive
Poor students from Germany, you guys are so funny😂喜欢你们
Hahaha it’s true 😂
面对这样的小姐姐 我只会支付更多😂
Hahahahhaha