Timing belt change - Alfa Romeo 166 (156) 2.0 TS 16v NO SPECIAL TOOLS NEEDED!

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  • Опубліковано 20 бер 2016
  • NO SPECIAL TOOLS NEEDED! This video was done for myself to remind me about the points needed to be taken care of when changing the belt. Here I'm developing a method to work alone. This way of replacement I have learned from Alfa 156 racing team. This was the third change so far for this car. The car has been driven around 75 000 km for now.

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  • @MovieTimes1016
    @MovieTimes1016 4 роки тому +2

    My timing belt broke 2 days ago. In the Netherlands you pay around EUR 500 to replace it. Thank you for this tutorial ! I still have a feeling that my engine is not damaged and that the timing belt replacement can start my engine again, let's hope so!!

    • @micromymario23
      @micromymario23 3 роки тому +2

      I don't think it's enough to replace the belt in your case, there is interference between the valves and pistons and therefore they will certainly be bent.

    • @AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX
      @AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX Рік тому

      hulp nodig? deze man moet je niet naar kijken, die beweerd dat het grote gat, waar je je spanrolstelsleutel insteekt het gat is waar je spanningsmeter naar toe moet wijzen, helemaal fout!! het is het kleine gaatje 1cm terug, zulke mogolen als hier leren juist hoe je distrubutieriem knapt, als je dat filmpje van hierboven na zou doen.

    • @MovieTimes1016
      @MovieTimes1016 Рік тому

      @@AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX dank je wel voor je bericht. Inmiddels heb ik al een andere auto gekocht maar mocht ik je hulp nodig hebben dan weet ik je te vinden :)

  • @RicTester
    @RicTester 6 років тому +2

    I like your style. You had planned the method, and stuck to your plan. There was never a doubt that the operation would be a success. Bravo.

  • @nsz2302
    @nsz2302 3 роки тому +4

    How to mess up a twin spark... The front balance shaft is out of time also the inlet camshaft will be around 1mm out of time when you tighten up the timing belt. That's why you NEED camlocks for the job.

    • @denimory
      @denimory Рік тому

      yes agreed ,was horrifying to watch,just buy damn cam locks they are like 30e,also tensioner has hole for correct tension on belt,i have 145 1.6 ts and 166 2.4jtdm

    • @nsz2302
      @nsz2302 Рік тому

      @@denimory 166 2.5v6 here :)

  • @bjorman
    @bjorman 7 років тому +5

    special tools needed , tool to set cil 1 on top and cam locking device, engine wear is getting the timing out of sinc it is minor but still.

  • @carlostavares2343
    @carlostavares2343 6 років тому

    I put a like on your video because you go help a lot of persons that will change the timing belt and dont have money for that ,good video

  • @HelesResende
    @HelesResende 4 роки тому

    Very good ideia. Congratulations. Intelligent mode to do.

  • @Robert-pi6vs
    @Robert-pi6vs 4 роки тому

    Very good idea , thanks for your video information.

  • @roasthunter
    @roasthunter 10 місяців тому

    I changes my belt at the weekend, I was able to correct a minor timing issue using camlocks, I'm not sure this method would be able to achieve that but I'lll watch again.

  • @ijth1714
    @ijth1714 8 років тому +7

    Wow, i started sweating by time when you released timing belt. I'm not big fan of horror films. There is a lot moving parts whitout belt around, but you made it.

    • @mathias4060
      @mathias4060 7 років тому +1

      If you make correct markings you are fine. But still, like people noted below you should use tools if your engine has 200k kilometres as the wear will have changed the belt markings (TDC f.i.)

  • @mikesonthemove
    @mikesonthemove 5 років тому

    Wow thank you very much you made my life Very easy now

  • @khaleda.7244
    @khaleda.7244 8 років тому +1

    Impressive!! Risky but you've done it.

  • @AdamAus85
    @AdamAus85 4 роки тому +1

    Man that's a lot more access you get on the 166 over the 156.

  • @LarsGTV6
    @LarsGTV6 7 років тому +1

    Greetings from Norway, your neighbour in the north - and well done work. But one has to take care "varovaista homma kuin ripulin hoitaminen piereskelemällä". I have used camlocks and TDC-gauge on my 16V-Alfas. But of course it takes more time.
    I would say that if the car runs very well before changing cambelt - then your method is quit acceptable.
    Are your 166 still running well?

    • @Louvado71
      @Louvado71  7 років тому

      This is fourth belt, always changed with the same method. Car runs better and better. When car was new, the fuel consumption was remarkably higher than these days. Maybe my right foot is not so heavy as after 164..
      In fact we replace the belt same way in traditional method also. Only difference is that we first mesh the timing and then put it back to order just because there are no timing markings as in "normal" case. Now we just make the markings by our self.

  • @AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX
    @AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX Рік тому +1

    No Wrong hole, its the litlle hole !!! 1 cm back

  • @ride1973
    @ride1973 3 роки тому

    Nice rally-england!

  • @Zion-jw3gm
    @Zion-jw3gm 4 роки тому +1

    Pretty scary especially if the timing was off slightly, cam locks would have shown this type of error easily but this way you may not notice by how much..

  • @williamlaurence4754
    @williamlaurence4754 6 років тому +2

    If the engine was running good before then I can see no harm in this method, basically you are not making any adjustments just replacing the belt.. I would be far more careful, I would not have released the timing gears locking bolt before the belt was secured in place, and been far more careful with the adjuster. I think my 156 has no balance belt, but if it did I would have marked it very carefully..

  • @mikahakkinen5621
    @mikahakkinen5621 2 роки тому

    Thanks
    Can you please advise me good garages in Helsinki which are professional in repairing Alfa Romeo???
    I have some serious issues in the engine.Im not sure if the sound is from the timing belt or the engine. Everything is fine in the car and temperature is ok. Pressure is ok.

  • @xrayxray169
    @xrayxray169 4 роки тому

    it can work without a balanced belt?

  • @rubenvalente
    @rubenvalente 7 років тому

    Why did you put the timing belt tensioner pointer pointing towards that hole, when actually it has a little hole before where you should've put it???

    • @Louvado71
      @Louvado71  7 років тому

      Maybe not seen clearly here but as said earlier "One more note is that you have to tighten the belt first to it's maximum and then release it so much that the arrow has room to live."

    • @campisiluigi7092
      @campisiluigi7092 7 років тому

      Rubén Valente k

  • @cartedori
    @cartedori 7 років тому

    damage to the balancer shafts did not indicate the location of the belt, they now stand in any direction

    • @Louvado71
      @Louvado71  7 років тому

      You put the markings in the balancer belt together with the teeth of balancer cogwheel and its done. Did you mean this? You can leave the whole belt away and everything works fine.

    • @cartedori
      @cartedori 7 років тому

      "You can leave the whole belt away and everything works fine." :D Yes, they are just excess weight... :D :D :D (I think no)

    • @rubenvalente
      @rubenvalente 3 роки тому +1

      @@cartedori
      The engine will work but it will not be smooth.

  • @RodneyEkrano
    @RodneyEkrano 6 років тому +1

    damm there are a lot of special tools

  • @khaleda.7244
    @khaleda.7244 8 років тому

    Why do you have to mark the belt too? is it possible to mark the bullies only? I have Alfa 147.

    • @Louvado71
      @Louvado71  8 років тому +3

      You have to mark the belt too with this method. One more note is that you have to tighten the belt first to it's maximum and then release it so much that the arrow has room to live.

    • @khaleda.7244
      @khaleda.7244 8 років тому

      +Louvado71 thank you so much

    • @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
      @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 8 років тому +1

      but whats the point of belt barking? does teeths have different spacing or what? belt is the same in all its range

  • @ehsanabbas2486
    @ehsanabbas2486 4 роки тому

    What about the timing Marks on the balance shaft?

    • @nsz2302
      @nsz2302 3 роки тому

      He messed it up. They are waaay out of time...

  • @milospetrovic6799
    @milospetrovic6799 8 років тому

    YouOn 10:55 what did you do with tool that you done and what is his purpose

    • @Louvado71
      @Louvado71  8 років тому +1

      That is needed to tighten the belt. It goes to the hole on the "north-east" side of the timing belt tensioner. Be careful to keep the tensioner so tight that the metal angle of the tensioner will not bend. Note also that you have to tighten the belt first to it's maximum and then release it so much that the arrow has room to live. This was not so clearly mentioned in the video.

    • @im_satan
      @im_satan 7 років тому

      no tools? do you read the manual how to tight the tensioner
      people dont do that!!!!!!!the belt is too tight
      it should be like that ,
      i028.radikal.ru/1011/13/a6c410ca1a53.jpg

  • @miska1803
    @miska1803 4 роки тому

    Is this process same for 1.8l Twinspark engine?

    • @Louvado71
      @Louvado71  4 роки тому

      You can basically change any cam belt with this method.

  • @paulostheofylaktos1018
    @paulostheofylaktos1018 4 роки тому

    Για αυτο το μοτερ υπαρχουν ειδικα εργαλεια το μονο που θα καταφερει ο φιλος ειναι να μεινει αχρονιστο το μοτερ

  • @oficinamecanicacarbrothers
    @oficinamecanicacarbrothers 7 років тому +3

    vejo que não e so aki no brazil que tem serviço porco

  • @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
    @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 8 років тому +2

    No special tools needed? I call it super special tools. original you can buy on ebay -yours not :D

  • @catherineguinot1288
    @catherineguinot1288 5 років тому

    hen you measure 1.5 / 4 × 2.666% × 44-33 + 790.5 / 142 × 1.4% with 3 £ you measure 322 ÷ 176.1 × 3% + 0.56 = 12.57% + _ ×! your distribution is changed it's simple no ?

  • @DavidFerreira1986
    @DavidFerreira1986 8 років тому

    this was a cheaty job!

  • @jakoblevesen8236
    @jakoblevesen8236 7 років тому +3

    You made two mistakes; one is that the left balanceshat is positioned 4 tooth wrong and the other mistake you made is not to see where the camshafts are. They "move" slightly with the old belt and you just prolong the wrong setting, when you just put on another belt. I do not like your process

    • @Louvado71
      @Louvado71  7 років тому +2

      Are you sure? This method is used by racing team that don't want to miss any horsepower. I have driven that car 80 000 km and no problems. Anyone can dismantle the whole engine to change one belt if he wants so. I prefer this method. Of course those who are doing this as their profession has to do it according to book?

    • @winfriednicolay4636
      @winfriednicolay4636 4 роки тому

      Ohne die Stirnräder der Nockenwelle zu lösen ist das Murks. Der Motor läuft so, aber die Feinjustierung der Nockenwellen fehlt. Entweder geht er obenrum oder untenrum nicht richtig und verbraucht viel Sprit.

    • @nsz2302
      @nsz2302 3 роки тому

      @@Louvado71 Hey Genius! The inlet camshaft and front balanceshaft are out of time. If you don't see it you can hear it to.