Anytime you speak to a dot officer you never say “work” “business” “money” “barter” only thing you say is Personal trailer for personal vehicles and equipment!
Apay2017 fact. But he doesnt have commercial license plate... so idk why hes giving him shit. And even if it was hed need an apportioned plate for over 26.. right?
@@18pneus no, his equipment is registered under Enthuzst, he just mentioned that in last night's video. And "commercial" and "apportioned" plates have nothing to do with his ticket. It was because the trucks gross vehicle weight rating is over 26,001 and combined weight
James Holbrook yea you’re right every state is different so you gotta check but most don’t require if it’s strictly personal. Just like those big ass Bus RVs that can pull a 20’ trailer but still not require a CDL
Yep ,never tell them your doing business.and never never never volunteer info to any person that can take your freedom or money .like you did on this stop he took away from your every day life .
I do want to add that you have a great deal of integrity and you did what was right you learned your lesson. Honestly I'm quite shocked nobody has given you any free info on travel requirements
Yeah having a road pirate steal your money it’s what’s right! You people need to get a better perspective on what a free country means. And this isn’t it.
Honestly the fact you were so honest and clearly not knowing, I wouldn't of given you a ticket. You weren't doing any malicious or unsafe. It was a true learning point. I wish officers would be more chill at times but I also work with a large agency where we don't make profit off traffic citations. This is a little ridiculous in my personal/ professional opinion.
@@flatnastyproductions5810 since when? In the state of texas, your not subject to any DOT regulations when your using it for private use, even if it is overweight. It will just be a fix it ticket. Snd to get that heavy, your have to have either an overweight trailer or a 1ton truck.
@@Silverfire308 problem is private use has rules. He isn't really using as private since he is using as a source and income aka a Business. Each state on private non comercial use has different law's. Some state don't matter if its private use and anything over xxxxxlbs requires a CDL to drive.
@@flatnastyproductions5810 ok, question then, what if you can't get a CDL? Say for age or heart problems? Then what do you do? Gotta make a living somehow.
@@bigmurph68 yup. He talked his way right into a shutdown. A 3/4 ton pickup with no signs pulling a empty trailer, it's a person vehicle. Never say otherwise. Period. Your business is NONE of his business.
@@mxzeatr anyway, unless you are a lawyer I'd stop. I do have a DOT number and I can assure you, he doesn't want to go through that process. Besides, his insurance definitely does not cover a DOT required vehicle, that.could be definitely in the thousands of dollars JUST TO GET THE DOT NUMBER . Seriously......lawyer.
Watching this video was literally like stepping in to a time machine and traveling 7 years in to the past when I started my own business. All I had was a 3/4 ton truck and a 30 foot gooseneck and a normal driver's license and I thought I could just start a hauling business. I literally had the exact same thing happen to me, got pulled over with an empty trailer and got the same fine.. that marked the start of me learning all the DOT guidelines by getting pulled over and fined until I was eventually legal. You handled it much better than I did man good job. I hope you have a much smoother journey than I did.
John Helbig doesn’t everyone who gets stopped say they haven’t broken the law?? I bet the cop might have a different idea!!!! Man you cop haters are to much, Jack wasn’t as upset as you haters and he was the one stopped!!!!!!!
That's our system for ya . Definitely not set up for we the working people!! What do u think would of happened if that was hunter Biden getting in trouble ? Lol
A side note. Get the road rules, laws and regulations book from the state DOT/ BMV where the ticket occurred. Check your warnings, fines and citations/ tickets you are given against the book before paying. Those tickets etc can really hurt your license as a hauler.
DOT can be a lot more complicated than many people believe. If you have a Truck GVWR or 10,000, and a Trailer of 10,000, you're way under 26,000 so no CDL required. The DOT officer will also look at tire weight range too. A lot of people go buy cheaper tires that might be range D instead of E. So even if you're hauling under 26,000, and under your GVWR, you might still be over loaded on tire weight limits. If you don't put your loads on the trailer correctly, you might be under max gvwr, but you might be over on one of your axle limits.
Question. If you have a 26ft box truck and the gvr says 33,000 but at the weigh station it says 16,000 empty can you still get shut down without a cdl? The truck is registered at 26,000. The actual weight of the truck is 16,000 not 33,000 like the gvwr says. If proof from a weigh station is shown as far as the actual weight of the vehicle do you believe the driver should be alright as long as they never hit that 26,000 mark?
@@horseman1456 designed or weight man think of it like an empty big motorcoach bus your need a cdl with passenger endorsement because of the design not the number of people actually in it at the time design or weight
@@horseman1456 does'nt matter what actual weight is , they go buy the gvwr on truck ! so if its 26001 lb or over u have to have cdl. just because your actual weight is like half of the 33000 lb gvwr does'nt give you a free pass . just remember anything thats rated 26001 lb gvwr you must have cdl. .
@Cory Mullis that makes no sense to me. How can you say something weighs one thing when you have actual proof in hand of the actual true weight. 33,000 is the most it could hold, not the actual weight. It can't be if it's if 17,000 pounds lighter at a weigh station
His reg would show commercial... he said too much to the officer... if, IF the DOT was nice and not about generating revenue, he'd would of let him go... because he was empty... informed him on what he needed to do to be compliant.... but NOOOO, revenue time!
@Security good luck with that the law makes are worthless Pyle's of crap thinking all day long how to make more laws to steal more of our money. Screw the government. Thieves. Most of them don't give a crap about our safety or anything about us it's all about the money and invading our privacy..and no I'm not taking about the police just the corrupt useless government.
@Security laws are not laws as you suggested. They are not always black and white and the purpose laws are created is not for Revenue but for Public Safety and assistance. Police officers are supposed to be able to use discretion because there are a lot of laws that are gray areas. You could safely pass a farm vehicle on a double yellow line or a mail truck on a double yellow line. There are times were rolling stops are much safer than coming to a complete stop. There are times that traffic lights do not change signals and you have to run the red light. Laws are not always black and white and officers are supposed to use discretion and their main objective is supposed to be to serve the public not to generate Revenue.
It doesn’t matter what he said to the cop, in the state of Pennsylvania, if you’re driving a vehicle towing a trailer and the combination weight is over 26,001 lbs. you need a cdl,, doesn’t matter weather it’s for a business or personal. They have been getting stricter about enforcing this due to the number of RV owners who do not have cdl’s..
Todd Woodworth you obviously don’t know how dot or the law works. Even Semi trucks have to drop their trailer if they are over weight. This cop was doing his job and very informative in the process. He could have been an asshole but wasn’t. Kudos to him for knowing everything about the law, teaching Jack something he didn’t know in a respectful matter and allowing him to park his trailer in a safe lot.
@@ogshrimp219 I drive a semi and i got a ticket for weighing almost 87k last year. I was hauling grain and i did not have to drop my trailer. They almost never make us drop, just fine us a lot. It was around a $6,000 for the over weight ticket i believe.
the scary thing is they never pull people running 20 foot trailers with mini vans and home made trailers loaded to the hilt. the past few years just buying a truck with a 8 foot box is a red flag for them also. gettin sad tryin to be start up in any mannor.great to see you keepin it calm.
LMFAO! Very true. I drive a 01 tundra falling apart and load the bed 3 feet over my cab. I tarp the back and by the time I get to the dump I've already uploaded half of my load on the 405. I always pass by police and CHP. I've yet to be pulled over..🤣😎
It does very by state but problem here is since he using as a business to create content jack could be put under those law's needing a CDL since he is using to make money. It becomes a slippery slope as he uses this as a means of his business of making YT content since it would be like any other trucking firm.
FUEL 'N' SPARK if its being used commercially then yes, but saying anything of we 26k requires a Cdl is wrong is what im saying. For personal use, rv’s, farm stuff etc it’s not. I haul commercially also bro
One of the companies I worked for. Switched the trailer ID info plate .They used one from a trailer that wouldn't require a class A license. They got away with it, until it was in a accident. Once all the information was required for the accident report/tickets.The cop realized the trailer was not correctly labeled. That really started problems, trailer red tagged. Driver didn't have a class A license only A class B .The trailer required a class A driver.So after a two hour inspection and dozens of tickets being given. Both the company and driver who claimed he didn't know about the trailer ID tag change .Received huge fines and points against them.
Oh and the trailer had to be flat bed towed.The ID tag change meant it wasn't legally registered .Wound up having to have the trailer inspected and new lable installed.
Lol I guess man feel like they should be hassling dump trucks and tractor trailers more then a dude with an empty trailer but hey the rules are the rules
Sean Tokash it’s those guys that are more often breaking the law, and get away with it because it’s a grey area as to what requires a cdl and med card or just a med card.
I'm a truck driver. Just so you know, it is your right, constitutionally protected, and supreme court upheld, that you can record ANY interaction with ANY public worker i.e. highway patrol, county sheriff, city police, mayor, clerk,... They are public servants and do not have the right to privacy while performing their public service. Also, ANY act or sight that can be seen from a public place has NO assumption of privacy. Just fyi.
I wish that all states would have the same rules for vehicles above xx,xxx lbs. Then it is no longer a game, it would be the same BUSINESS for everyone. Nothing but a revenue generator. Technically, you were in the wrong if you were loaded. This BS of a trailer CAPABLE of hauling 10,000 lbs or more is just wrong. Just because you can don't mean you will. Anyone can overload a trailer. A derated trailer will be used above that, if you are THAT conscious of what you weigh. I would have told him you were headed to a parade. I haul my stuff for me. I don't need all the BS for crossing state lines and commerce. Do I believe in Safety? Absolutely. I also believe in leaving educated people in the industry alone.
CDL is baloney for pick up truck. This is not a semi. It seems so dopey when you use regular brakes and trailer length could be same as other trailers of lighter weights depending on trailer. Just brake sooner and don't follow as close. One would think.
Yes legally speaking you are bound by the gcwr of ypur truck and trailer NOT the actual weight. So if you're trauler and truck combo are above 26k you are illegal without a cdl.
De-rate your trailer vin# plate to 12,000 lbs and NEVER TELL THEM NOTHING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS/COMPANY... Put NOT FOR HIRE stickers/magnets on both truck & trailer if pulled over tell them its for personal use
When you buy a new trailer you can get the manufacture to de-rate the trailer by getting you a sticker with whatever weight you need to be under 26k lbs. that’s how you avoid getting a CDL.
Austin Fouts Uhh still gotta title and register in my state, yeah you can buy a de-rated trailer but get caught hauling more than what you registered it for your still going to get one hell of a fine. Just cheaper to get your CDL.
@@rich5708 if you know people that dont live in pa you can register it at their address. Thats what i do for my friend in cali. I let them register their stuff at my house in az
I had a feeling this would a problem with all these pickup trucks getting bigger. Soon folks are going to have to get CDL just to tow their trailers lol
It wouldn’t hurt some of these pickup trucks towing trailers are among the worst on the road. Driving a non governed vehicle going 90 cutting and not being aware of their trailer placement or trailing over the inside on every bend
it wouldn't matter, the second he's on the road, DOT can scale him, and the sec he's over 26k while doing non personal use its a big ole fine and the vehicle is stuck there, that's not even counting a DOT marking whenever he uses any of his trucks for business use
Scales or not wouldn't matter in the ways of his use of the rig. But if he did de-scale the trailer for his particular use and didn't cross those numbers which with simple math would be fairly easy to stay under he would be ok👍 but personally the direction Jack is headed I'd get CDL and some color matched dot stickers 🤘
I had my gooseneck trailer de-rated by 1000 lbs. This keeps the trailer and tow vehicle at 26,000 lbs. No CDL License required. You still need to have a DOT medical card and DOT registration in Pa. if your driving for a business.
I actually saw that trailer parked at that rest stop when I was on my way to visit family in Virginia! My wife and I both thought it was odd to be there but figured it was for a Hot-shot that had a mechanical failure and was just getting the truck serviced. What a small world!
With new trucks being rated so high, many people don't take this into account. This is also why some people are buying SRW instead of DRW. One solution is to buy an older, lower rated truck, or buy a trailer rated for less. If your trailer is rated for 17k, find something rated for 14k or less. It will still haul the trucks you haul without a problem (considering a 10k trailer would do what you need).
@@nj8pruts Yes. California is very strict on these things. My dad is a dispatcher for trucks going to California from Pennsylvania. And they're especially strict on semi tractor trailers and they are closing down in owner operator truckers.
Cameron Bridges if their racing team is commercial they come under DOT. PS, any vehicle can be pulled over for safety inspection, lights, tires, visible stuff. Any cop can do that to any vehicle on a public road. You guys know that.
It’s all about money. If you say your doing it for business they see dollar signs for example taxes, registrations, fines, so on. If you are a carrier for property or goods intrastate or interstate you need DOT numbers. There is so much up for interpretation. I’m a very honest guy and have talked myself into this same situation. With the DOT registration comes with all sorts of other goodies like annual inspections, commercial insurance, safety equipment, cab file and much more.
Safety blitz is no joke. I'm fully compliant Class A and I usually do a 34hr+ at home. CDOT will find something on a brand new combination, it's their job.
@@joelaidler Yes, but the cop said about the wheels/tires as to why he pulled him over. Running something illegal so visually easy to see is just an invitation for them to pull you over. If not for that, he doesn't get the 1k fine.
Correct. Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law..... but what they don't tell you is NOTHING you say that might exonerate you will EVER be used to defend you (by the cops). If asked (on the stand, under oath no less), they will say, "I don't recall that."
I'd say with what he's towing and doing with the truck, it'd probly be best to just get the CDL, with a DOT #, I would say its best to get one, but Dang that's hard to make look good on the side of a truck, maybe if you can get it on a magnet then you can take it off when you don't need it.....
You can thank big Tex for putting gvwr higher then 14k. They include the transfer weight witch screws you in this case. Load trail gvwrs the same exact set up at 14k like it should seem as the axles are 2 7ks witch you would be just fine without a cdl as you’d only be at 25500
Only if you have a [non] CDL class A license.... otherwise the you can only have a 10k trailer. The 14k trailer automatically puts you into that territory.
These things happen, I used to drive dump trucks so I know first hand. It is part of the business. Glad it was not more than $1000....you would not believe the tickets I've seen
Sometimes life is 2 steps back one step forward. Don't worry about it, You're doing good, And you told the truth. Somedays are better than others. Keep moving forward.
He was so nice he gave you citation? Nice would of been a warning, just saying. Your a good guy by staying positive and even praising the officer for being nice.👍🏻
He _had_ to give the citation. He was nice enough to take the time necessary to give a thorough education to the driver who unwittingly violated the regulations.
for those who somehow don't know or didn't pay attention, in minnesota it says right on your physical license, you cannot drive anything over 26000 gvw. i have a cdl so that doesn't apply, but yah. pretty common knowledge. thats why all your rental penske trucks and whatnot are rated at 26000.
I’ve never heard of something like that in Louisiana. People pull goosenecks with backhoes and dozers all the time with no CDLs or DOT numbers because it’s under 26,000 and for either private use or for a small business. And so many people pull 5th wheels and to me it’s the same concept
@@austin42891 i would look into the DOT laws idk for small business. i am a CDL class A driver. Need DOT law book for your state to see. Never say your a Business LOL.......
@@bensherrick I as well hold a class A. Have held one for the last 10 years and have ran my fair share of gooseneck loads but have never heard of anyone needing a cdl for ¾ton and a single wheel 30' RGN. But yes you couldn't be more right, never tell then that you have a business. Especially if your business has nothing to do with haulin shit lol. 🤙🏼✌🏼
This reminded me of the time I was pulled over by a Tennessee state trooper because he thought I wasn't wearing a seat belt. I was driving a company van and the seat belt was the same color as my jacket. He then proceeded to tell me that I had to have a CDL because I was driving a commercial vehicle. I informed him that I had been pulled over in company vehicles and had gone through several license and registration checkpoints in the time that I had been working for the company and nobody had ever told me that I needed a CDL. He proceeded to tell me that he was going to let me off with a warning. I told my boss about it and he called the Department of Safety to ask about it. They said that they wished he would have written the ticket so he would get educated by the judge when I went to court to fight it.
We de-rated our GN trailer from 15,900 to 14,400 for this exact reason. We have a 2007 LBZ so that combination wouldn’t have met the CDL criteria but we are looking at new trucks and for GVWR purposes we can only buy a 6.6 diesel in a 2500 or a 6.6 gas in a 3500. Both trucks have a GVWR near 11,500. The 2017-19 3500 has the same 11,500 GVWR. It’s a numbers game and is different due to different specs and truck builds. Dually, 2wd, different cab configurations, engines, etc… all changes the GVWR slightly.
Go get your cdl. Class A. Not to bad to do. Worth it in the long run. Make sure you get endorsements like air brakes just for safe measure cause you never know where you may end up in the future. Good luck man!
I agree. Get a class A from the start with Air brake and tanker endorsement. You'll also need a medical card. Honesty is always the best policy, but in this case you offered too much information to the cop. Keep the great videos coming!
Get all the endorsements offered (double-triple trailers, tanker, etc.) Each are only a few extra questions on the written exam. They're easy to get and will give you maximum flexibility.
There you go all you may sayers. They go based off what the six sticker says on the truck and the sticker that says on the trailer so if you have a Dooley at 14,000 pounds and you have a trailer at 14,000 pounds you get pulled over you’re technically required to have a CDL whether or not you’re pulling that kind of weight they go based off the stickers of the truck and trailer. And this video proves my point.!.. even if he wasn’t using it for a business the fact is his combined weight that his rig is capable of hauling is over 26,100, do you need a CDL. Period. That is why trailer manufacturers has something called the reading or this is a non-CDL trailer.
Depends on the state whether you need more than a standard DL for 26K+ lbs for noncommercial use (1T dually w/5th wheel camper for example). I think TX requires it. Sounds like his state it's a no, but he brought up "business" to the trooper. In MN there isn't a special requirement.
First off, can I love a video? Just based off of the hat? Sorry I can only give it one thumbs up. I may have two thumbs up the video on other phones and devices!
If at all possible don’t get a DOT number and just use “Private Not For Hire” on the side of your truck. If you get the Dot number you have more regulations that you have to comply with as well as being required to enter weigh stations when open. Being that you are just pulling your own business stuff around and not going after other freight Private Not For Hire would be my suggestion on the way to go.
Man, it sounds like PA makes it very confusing lol, here in my province in BC, we can tow without a class 1 license (CDL). If we have a regular driver's license (class 5) we can tow up to 10,100 pounds, if we tow more than that we need a class 5 with heavy trailer endorsement. If we drive a single axle truck with air brakes, it's class 5 license with air brake endorsement, if it's a truck with a tandem or tri drive it's a class 3 with air brakes. If you're towing a trailer with that said tandem or tri axle you need your class 1 (CDL)
You can depending on your use of trailer such as an RV a higher rated capacity drivers license than 26k pounds but not for commercial purposes in some states. So if you have an RV for personal use you are not commercial so you do not need CDL but need higher rating of lincese with tests to drive higher GVWR for personal use.
So your truck was GVRW 11,350 and you said you had a 15k trailer. If you would have said you had a 14k trailer would you still have gotten a ticket? If you would have had USDOT numbers and a CDL would you have been able to not get a ticket? If you had your CDL and USDOT numbers would you have to had your truck plated for 28k in Pennsylvania to not get a ticket?
Thumbs up for sharing your cruddy experience in a positive way and trying to hide the DOT cop (he doesn't deserve it buy it shows you have some class). Who knows, you might have saved me ONE ThOuSaNd dollars. That is worth a thumbs up. ROFL
If the gcvw (combination of both vehicle and trailer[what it’s capable of hauling])is over 26001lbs it’s a cdl, if the trailer gvwr is over 10001lbs it is considered a Class A license (passenger vehicle is a class c). If the trailer is under 10001lb but the power vehicle (truck) is over 26001 it is a class B
i believe it is the combination of both truck and trailer, GCWR . Not the actual weight. The truck. GVWR was 11,350 + 15,000 trailer =26,350 So he is over the 26,000 regular D.L For RV towing you can get a Non-Commercial A licesen for over 26,000 GCWR. So he probably needs the CDL for the business.
That empty trailer only weighs like 6 0r 7000 lbs so it's not overweight as it is , so if Pennsylvania is fining for an unloaded trailer that's bullshit I don't care how the dot wants to manipulate it, they dont fine 18 wheelers empty , only when there loaded and overweight
For the future when you buy a new trailer you can get 1 that's rated at 15,900 just have it derated to 12000-14000 depending on your truck GVWR to stay under 26,001. I do non-cdl hotshot trucking that how I know but you can only have it derated from the manufacturer/dealer when it's brand new and never been registered. This will not work for used trailers.
Well for everyone who really don’t know the DOT officer was professional and lenient he only gave him the one fine witch is federal law but he could have dinged him for even more like no dot number full permit no cdl no fire extinguisher and if truck is not license for the weight so it’s a lesson you learn specially when your in business
Anytime you speak to a dot officer you never say “work” “business” “money” “barter” only thing you say is Personal trailer for personal vehicles and equipment!
Apay2017 fact. But he doesnt have commercial license plate... so idk why hes giving him shit. And even if it was hed need an apportioned plate for over 26.. right?
@@18pneus no, his equipment is registered under Enthuzst, he just mentioned that in last night's video. And "commercial" and "apportioned" plates have nothing to do with his ticket. It was because the trucks gross vehicle weight rating is over 26,001 and combined weight
Apportioning only has to do with fuel tax
I'm not sure if it's the case there but in some states you need a CDL regardless of use just if it's over that number
James Holbrook yea you’re right every state is different so you gotta check but most don’t require if it’s strictly personal. Just like those big ass Bus RVs that can pull a 20’ trailer but still not require a CDL
You talked yourself into a ticket with an empty trailer. That’s actually pretty impressive.
was thinking the same thing
Yep ,never tell them your doing business.and never never never volunteer info to any person that can take your freedom or money .like you did on this stop he took away from your every day life .
🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes he did
Lmao 🤣
Lol, bragged yourself right into trouble.
Lmao!!!! Yes he did !!!!! Haha oh man
Learned the hardway
@@DJKiDDKlashez sad part is I don't think he learned a thing in that aspect.
He’s so used to saying “my business” I’m a business owner, I’m a boss etc etc lol
it was that hat lol
I do want to add that you have a great deal of integrity and you did what was right you learned your lesson. Honestly I'm quite shocked nobody has given you any free info on travel requirements
He did what was right? 😂 No. You don't offer information to cops.
Yeah having a road pirate steal your money it’s what’s right! You people need to get a better perspective on what a free country means. And this isn’t it.
Honestly the fact you were so honest and clearly not knowing, I wouldn't of given you a ticket. You weren't doing any malicious or unsafe. It was a true learning point. I wish officers would be more chill at times but I also work with a large agency where we don't make profit off traffic citations. This is a little ridiculous in my personal/ professional opinion.
Talked himself right into the ticket when he said “I use this for my company” 🤦🏻♂️
Probably still need a medical card technically
@@proudpennsylvaniaman7996 No.
@@bradjenkins932 yes. Anything over 17,000 lbs in PA needs a medical card. Private use or not
@@proudpennsylvaniaman7996 not a 80 year old in a 24,0000 lb diesel camper.
@@toddreynolds8875 AHAHA YES
Wow you should have never said i own a business
@@flatnastyproductions5810 since when? In the state of texas, your not subject to any DOT regulations when your using it for private use, even if it is overweight. It will just be a fix it ticket. Snd to get that heavy, your have to have either an overweight trailer or a 1ton truck.
@@Silverfire308 problem is private use has rules. He isn't really using as private since he is using as a source and income aka a Business. Each state on private non comercial use has different law's. Some state don't matter if its private use and anything over xxxxxlbs requires a CDL to drive.
@RemingtonOwens that is not correct 26001 and over falls under dot regulations as of last year even on farm use
@@flatnastyproductions5810 ok, question then, what if you can't get a CDL? Say for age or heart problems? Then what do you do? Gotta make a living somehow.
05greendmax yes that’s exactly what i’m saying
Get s lawyer. You talked way to much.
Robert Rutherford I get being honest and respectful but sometimes you can say too much.
@@bigmurph68 yup. He talked his way right into a shutdown. A 3/4 ton pickup with no signs pulling a empty trailer, it's a person vehicle. Never say otherwise. Period. Your business is NONE of his business.
@@robertrutherford9057 if the trucks registered in his business name, which he says it is, it doesn't matter it's commercial.
@@mxzeatr business name without DOT number for personal business.
@@mxzeatr anyway, unless you are a lawyer I'd stop. I do have a DOT number and I can assure you, he doesn't want to go through that process. Besides, his insurance definitely does not cover a DOT required vehicle, that.could be definitely in the thousands of dollars JUST TO GET THE DOT NUMBER . Seriously......lawyer.
Watching this video was literally like stepping in to a time machine and traveling 7 years in to the past when I started my own business. All I had was a 3/4 ton truck and a 30 foot gooseneck and a normal driver's license and I thought I could just start a hauling business. I literally had the exact same thing happen to me, got pulled over with an empty trailer and got the same fine.. that marked the start of me learning all the DOT guidelines by getting pulled over and fined until I was eventually legal. You handled it much better than I did man good job. I hope you have a much smoother journey than I did.
there is no need to "respect the privacy" of cops. especially on the day they're acting as literal road pirates
@@peepocozy8594 need to be crass... cops have no privacy as they are working in public as public servants PERIOD.
I can't understand how you get a ticket with an empty trailer!?
I didn't hear you bragging. I only heard you excited & proud of what you do. We live & we learn...
Yup you started the conversation with "my business"
Really, it’s none of their business why he’s pulling the trailer
It wouldn't matter. Its registered to his business. The officer knew that before he asked.
Jesse J next time a cop asks you something just say “it’s none of your business” just maybe the cop will explain it to you!!!!!
LoL.... his business can be anything! You can use a business registered trailer for private use! HE WAS EMPTY! HAD NOT BROKEN THE LAW....
John Helbig doesn’t everyone who gets stopped say they haven’t broken the law?? I bet the cop might have a different idea!!!! Man you cop haters are to much, Jack wasn’t as upset as you haters and he was the one stopped!!!!!!!
Damn Jack, you talked yourself right into that one bud.... You were being honest about your business and he slapped you with a Hefty lesson....
His channel does very well you probably paid for his ticket by mail watching this video… who’s laughing now? MAGA always winning!!
That's our system for ya . Definitely not set up for we the working people!! What do u think would of happened if that was hunter Biden getting in trouble ? Lol
A side note. Get the road rules, laws and regulations book from the state DOT/ BMV where the ticket occurred. Check your warnings, fines and citations/ tickets you are given against the book before paying. Those tickets etc can really hurt your license as a hauler.
Also, rules for adjacent states you may haul in or through.
🏴☠️ 🏴☠️ 🏴☠️ 🏴☠️ Piracy on the highways … is law enforcement stealing from the public? 🏴☠️ 🏴☠️ 🏴☠️
"Anything you say can be used against you." Lesson learned.
That part.
Thats what happens when you want to brag about yourself
DOT can be a lot more complicated than many people believe. If you have a Truck GVWR or 10,000, and a Trailer of 10,000, you're way under 26,000 so no CDL required. The DOT officer will also look at tire weight range too. A lot of people go buy cheaper tires that might be range D instead of E. So even if you're hauling under 26,000, and under your GVWR, you might still be over loaded on tire weight limits. If you don't put your loads on the trailer correctly, you might be under max gvwr, but you might be over on one of your axle limits.
Still have to have a medical card non cdl anything over 10k
Question. If you have a 26ft box truck and the gvr says 33,000 but at the weigh station it says 16,000 empty can you still get shut down without a cdl? The truck is registered at 26,000. The actual weight of the truck is 16,000 not 33,000 like the gvwr says. If proof from a weigh station is shown as far as the actual weight of the vehicle do you believe the driver should be alright as long as they never hit that 26,000 mark?
@@horseman1456 designed or weight man think of it like an empty big motorcoach bus your need a cdl with passenger endorsement because of the design not the number of people actually in it at the time
design or weight
@@horseman1456 does'nt matter what actual weight is , they go buy the gvwr on truck ! so if its 26001 lb or over u have to have cdl. just because your actual weight is like half of the 33000 lb gvwr does'nt give you a free pass . just remember anything thats rated 26001 lb gvwr you must have cdl.
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@Cory Mullis that makes no sense to me. How can you say something weighs one thing when you have actual proof in hand of the actual true weight. 33,000 is the most it could hold, not the actual weight. It can't be if it's if 17,000 pounds lighter at a weigh station
Come one jack don’t let the cops know more than they should???
Tranquility And Mayhem when they looked at his registration they would know it was regular to his business.
His reg would show commercial... he said too much to the officer... if, IF the DOT was nice and not about generating revenue, he'd would of let him go... because he was empty... informed him on what he needed to do to be compliant.... but NOOOO, revenue time!
Hes a rookie. Cops are not your friends.
@Security good luck with that the law makes are worthless Pyle's of crap thinking all day long how to make more laws to steal more of our money. Screw the government. Thieves. Most of them don't give a crap about our safety or anything about us it's all about the money and invading our privacy..and no I'm not taking about the police just the corrupt useless government.
@Security laws are not laws as you suggested. They are not always black and white and the purpose laws are created is not for Revenue but for Public Safety and assistance.
Police officers are supposed to be able to use discretion because there are a lot of laws that are gray areas.
You could safely pass a farm vehicle on a double yellow line or a mail truck on a double yellow line. There are times were rolling stops are much safer than coming to a complete stop. There are times that traffic lights do not change signals and you have to run the red light.
Laws are not always black and white and officers are supposed to use discretion and their main objective is supposed to be to serve the public not to generate Revenue.
It doesn’t matter what he said to the cop, in the state of Pennsylvania, if you’re driving a vehicle towing a trailer and the combination weight is over 26,001 lbs. you need a cdl,, doesn’t matter weather it’s for a business or personal. They have been getting stricter about enforcing this due to the number of RV owners who do not have cdl’s..
Non of that was his business to know! He "made you" a carrier right there on the spot!😂
At least the cop knew his facts and wasn’t bull crapping the whole thing, love to see someone actually showing the GOOD side of police
Todd Woodworth you obviously don’t know how dot or the law works. Even Semi trucks have to drop their trailer if they are over weight. This cop was doing his job and very informative in the process. He could have been an asshole but wasn’t. Kudos to him for knowing everything about the law, teaching Jack something he didn’t know in a respectful matter and allowing him to park his trailer in a safe lot.
He was good to you. Could have called a weaker to remove trailer from the highway
Conor Hogan there are no good cops
Lol DOT arent cops they are DOT officers they aren't serving warrants or chasing bad guys
@@ogshrimp219 I drive a semi and i got a ticket for weighing almost 87k last year. I was hauling grain and i did not have to drop my trailer. They almost never make us drop, just fine us a lot. It was around a $6,000 for the over weight ticket i believe.
the scary thing is they never pull people running 20 foot trailers with mini vans and home made trailers loaded to the hilt. the past few years just buying a truck with a 8 foot box is a red flag for them also. gettin sad tryin to be start up in any mannor.great to see you keepin it calm.
I'm feeling attacked with that one...(minivan). MDOT has stopped me pulling my utility with my 2500hd but never the van.
LMFAO! Very true. I drive a 01 tundra falling apart and load the bed 3 feet over my cab. I tarp the back and by the time I get to the dump I've already uploaded half of my load on the 405. I always pass by police and CHP. I've yet to be pulled over..🤣😎
They pull over MAGA hat wearers. They see them from a mile away and get triggered.
I towed a 3500 tow truck with a old Ford explorer lol scary stuff
@@danielson2454 "you won't get pulled over if your rig looks like you're too poor to pay the tickets"
Tell them it’s personal use and put NOT FOR HIRE on side of truck or trailer!
Bingo!
Yeah jack never tell them more than ask
FUEL 'N' SPARK that varies state by state.
It does very by state but problem here is since he using as a business to create content jack could be put under those law's needing a CDL since he is using to make money. It becomes a slippery slope as he uses this as a means of his business of making YT content since it would be like any other trucking firm.
FUEL 'N' SPARK if its being used commercially then yes, but saying anything of we 26k requires a Cdl is wrong is what im saying. For personal use, rv’s, farm stuff etc it’s not. I haul commercially also bro
F these guys trying to kill the tax paying man already !!!!
One of the companies I worked for. Switched the trailer ID info plate .They used one from a trailer that wouldn't require a class A license. They got away with it, until it was in a accident. Once all the information was required for the accident report/tickets.The cop realized the trailer was not correctly labeled. That really started problems, trailer red tagged. Driver didn't have a class A license only A class B .The trailer required a class A driver.So after a two hour inspection and dozens of tickets being given. Both the company and driver who claimed he didn't know about the trailer ID tag change .Received huge fines and points against them.
Oh and the trailer had to be flat bed towed.The ID tag change meant it
wasn't legally registered .Wound up having to have the trailer inspected and new lable installed.
Thank God the D O T is keeping our roads safe...
#ItsOnlyAboutRevenue
Big Facts
Lol I guess man feel like they should be hassling dump trucks and tractor trailers more then a dude with an empty trailer but hey the rules are the rules
100%
Sean Tokash it’s those guys that are more often breaking the law, and get away with it because it’s a grey area as to what requires a cdl and med card or just a med card.
Sean Tokash pretty sure he’s joking
You screwed up telling him it was for a business.
Here in ky you can license a semi as an rv and drive with no cdl all day
Honesty is the best policy in any endeavor
@@DurtymaxJack i can never go wrong with honesty👍👍Respect
@@DurtymaxJack completely agree.
But sometimes lack of info isn't dishonest lol
@@erock89x89 in TX you can buy a semi with a trailer and drive it all you want as long as your using it for personal use
@@tommywilliams9184 no sir even farm use if you're 26001 or over you fall under dot regulations
I'm a truck driver. Just so you know, it is your right, constitutionally protected, and supreme court upheld, that you can record ANY interaction with ANY public worker i.e. highway patrol, county sheriff, city police, mayor, clerk,...
They are public servants and do not have the right to privacy while performing their public service. Also, ANY act or sight that can be seen from a public place has NO assumption of privacy. Just fyi.
I wish that all states would have the same rules for vehicles above xx,xxx lbs. Then it is no longer a game, it would be the same BUSINESS for everyone. Nothing but a revenue generator. Technically, you were in the wrong if you were loaded. This BS of a trailer CAPABLE of hauling 10,000 lbs or more is just wrong. Just because you can don't mean you will. Anyone can overload a trailer. A derated trailer will be used above that, if you are THAT conscious of what you weigh. I would have told him you were headed to a parade. I haul my stuff for me. I don't need all the BS for crossing state lines and commerce. Do I believe in Safety? Absolutely. I also believe in leaving educated people in the industry alone.
CDL is baloney for pick up truck. This is not a semi. It seems so dopey when you use regular brakes and trailer length could be same as other trailers of lighter weights depending on trailer. Just brake sooner and don't follow as close. One would think.
Certainly not the best way to be “Blowin’ Money”. Bummer dude.
Yes legally speaking you are bound by the gcwr of ypur truck and trailer NOT the actual weight. So if you're trauler and truck combo are above 26k you are illegal without a cdl.
De-rate your trailer vin# plate to 12,000 lbs and NEVER TELL THEM NOTHING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS/COMPANY... Put NOT FOR HIRE stickers/magnets on both truck & trailer if pulled over tell them its for personal use
You dont have to say anything.
Don’t need to put not for hire as it’s a personal truck for personal use there is a difference for commercial not for hire and for hire
Exercising your right to say nothing would be better than lying, especially in the age of body cameras and ubiquitous recording.
In pa it needs to be 10,000 lbs if the trailer is tag says 12,000lbs you need a CDL even if you are pulling it with a bicycle
The fact that he is inhibiting commercial tasks because the state needs to know exactly what you own and are doing is absolutely ridiculous.
I moved in PA and I absolutely hate it!
When you buy a new trailer you can get the manufacture to de-rate the trailer by getting you a sticker with whatever weight you need to be under 26k lbs. that’s how you avoid getting a CDL.
You cannot Derate your truck or trailer in PA.
Or just get your cdls 😂 it’s easy
@@rich5708 dont buy it in pa then lol
Austin Fouts Uhh still gotta title and register in my state, yeah you can buy a de-rated trailer but get caught hauling more than what you registered it for your still going to get one hell of a fine. Just cheaper to get your CDL.
@@rich5708 if you know people that dont live in pa you can register it at their address. Thats what i do for my friend in cali. I let them register their stuff at my house in az
I had a feeling this would a problem with all these pickup trucks getting bigger. Soon folks are going to have to get CDL just to tow their trailers lol
It wouldn’t hurt some of these pickup trucks towing trailers are among the worst on the road. Driving a non governed vehicle going 90 cutting and not being aware of their trailer placement or trailing over the inside on every bend
Get that trailer “de-rated” to 10-12k bud
In pa anything over 10001 pounds is for Commercial use he would have the same problem
it wouldn't matter, the second he's on the road, DOT can scale him, and the sec he's over 26k while doing non personal use its a big ole fine and the vehicle is stuck there, that's not even counting a DOT marking whenever he uses any of his trucks for business use
Scales or not wouldn't matter in the ways of his use of the rig. But if he did de-scale the trailer for his particular use and didn't cross those numbers which with simple math would be fairly easy to stay under he would be ok👍 but personally the direction Jack is headed I'd get CDL and some color matched dot stickers 🤘
I had my gooseneck trailer de-rated by 1000 lbs. This keeps the trailer and tow vehicle at 26,000 lbs. No CDL License required. You still need to have a DOT medical card and DOT registration in Pa. if your driving for a business.
If you cross a state line and you are pulling a trailer 10000lbs or more you have to have a cdl regardless.
I actually saw that trailer parked at that rest stop when I was on my way to visit family in Virginia! My wife and I both thought it was odd to be there but figured it was for a Hot-shot that had a mechanical failure and was just getting the truck serviced. What a small world!
Literally screwed yourself giving too much info to that cop. You know they love anything to get you with everything they can.
Epic Sack69 it’s called honesty bud😂 at least he got the facts he needed oh well, he will fix it and be not a problem anymore
@@417hatfield9 It's called overreach, bud.
As soon as he said business vehicle it was over
His truck is registered to the business, whether he says it or not the officer would have known eventually.
Way to many laws
That’s rough, Jack. Your honesty is inspiring, but it’s a big bummer and something that shouldn’t be an issue.
With new trucks being rated so high, many people don't take this into account. This is also why some people are buying SRW instead of DRW.
One solution is to buy an older, lower rated truck, or buy a trailer rated for less.
If your trailer is rated for 17k, find something rated for 14k or less. It will still haul the trucks you haul without a problem (considering a 10k trailer would do what you need).
It's called a DOT blitz.... They grab everyone they can
No and extremely kind officer would have let you go through. They have discretion
If you had a 40-foot fifth wheel camper behind you they would have never said a word never mess with RVs or campers.🏁🇺🇸👍
For damn it Jack you said too much brutha should have said it's my personal trailer
PA is really cracking down on this. I’m pulled over at least once a week getting an inspection
Its happening here in az and cali as well. I own a trucking biz and I see it daily.
@@nj8pruts Yes. California is very strict on these things. My dad is a dispatcher for trucks going to California from Pennsylvania. And they're especially strict on semi tractor trailers and they are closing down in owner operator truckers.
Cameron Bridges if their racing team is commercial they come under DOT. PS, any vehicle can be pulled over for safety inspection, lights, tires, visible stuff. Any cop can do that to any vehicle on a public road. You guys know that.
If you aren’t speeding or breaking any laws or anything they have no right to stop you
9:10 Well said
It’s all about money. If you say your doing it for business they see dollar signs for example taxes, registrations, fines, so on. If you are a carrier for property or goods intrastate or interstate you need DOT numbers. There is so much up for interpretation. I’m a very honest guy and have talked myself into this same situation.
With the DOT registration comes with all sorts of other goodies like annual inspections, commercial insurance, safety equipment, cab file and much more.
If it's for private use only. You do not need a cdl
Safety blitz is no joke. I'm fully compliant Class A and I usually do a 34hr+ at home. CDOT will find something on a brand new combination, it's their job.
I cant believe dot is breaking your balls on an empty trailer but anyway keep up the great videos
they pulled him over for his illegal wheels/tires
gd1996 but the $1000 fine was for not having “the required licenses”
@@joelaidler Yes, but the cop said about the wheels/tires as to why he pulled him over. Running something illegal so visually easy to see is just an invitation for them to pull you over. If not for that, he doesn't get the 1k fine.
@@gd1996 Those wheels and tires pulling a 16K trailer was a bad decision. Those tires are probably not even load range E. LOL
@@TexanUSMC8089 Agreed, from the tires to the extra stress put on by the offset of the wheels, just a bad idea.
I believe GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
Correct. You have to look at the GVCWR- Gross Vehicle Combination Weight Rating. Total GVW of the truck and the GVW of the trailer combined.
"I do not speak to government employees without the presence of my legal counsel."
Government employees are NOT your friend.
Correct. Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law..... but what they don't tell you is NOTHING you say that might exonerate you will EVER be used to defend you (by the cops). If asked (on the stand, under oath no less), they will say, "I don't recall that."
Its called "GENERATING REVENUE "
Or " Policing for Profit"
Figured this day was coming lol. Time to get the CDL or get a smaller trailer. Or do as others said and get trailer gvwr derated.
no.
@@Blueberry_5.9 🤦
jclark I was just about to post that emoji to that comment. Some people just don’t watch or listen.
I'd say with what he's towing and doing with the truck, it'd probly be best to just get the CDL, with a DOT #, I would say its best to get one, but Dang that's hard to make look good on the side of a truck, maybe if you can get it on a magnet then you can take it off when you don't need it.....
Chris Rowlison you don’t want a magnet because that damages the paint under the magnet. I’d have it made into stickers on the rear side windows.
You can thank big Tex for putting gvwr higher then 14k. They include the transfer weight witch screws you in this case. Load trail gvwrs the same exact set up at 14k like it should seem as the axles are 2 7ks witch you would be just fine without a cdl as you’d only be at 25500
Only if you have a [non] CDL class A license.... otherwise the you can only have a 10k trailer. The 14k trailer automatically puts you into that territory.
These things happen, I used to drive dump trucks so I know first hand. It is part of the business. Glad it was not more than $1000....you would not believe the tickets I've seen
the taste of leather boot is palpable in this video
Sometimes life is 2 steps back one step forward. Don't worry about it, You're doing good, And you told the truth. Somedays are better than others. Keep moving forward.
He was so nice he gave you citation? Nice would of been a warning, just saying. Your a good guy by staying positive and even praising the officer for being nice.👍🏻
He didn't even have to let him park the trailer and get another truck. Could have got that towed.
He _had_ to give the citation. He was nice enough to take the time necessary to give a thorough education to the driver who unwittingly violated the regulations.
I'd rather pay a lawyer than the state .
Thanks for being honest, having integrity, and sharing your story. Sorry you got pinched. And thanks for letting us know so we can go get our class A.
Hence don’t talk to government EVER!!!
for those who somehow don't know or didn't pay attention, in minnesota it says right on your physical license, you cannot drive anything over 26000 gvw. i have a cdl so that doesn't apply, but yah. pretty common knowledge. thats why all your rental penske trucks and whatnot are rated at 26000.
Your a stand up dude not many guys like you in this world
I’ve never heard of something like that in Louisiana. People pull goosenecks with backhoes and dozers all the time with no CDLs or DOT numbers because it’s under 26,000 and for either private use or for a small business. And so many people pull 5th wheels and to me it’s the same concept
Private is fine. Once it's associated with a business is what's gonna require the dot for a combination equaling more than 10,000 pounds
@@austin42891 i would look into the DOT laws idk for small business. i am a CDL class A driver. Need DOT law book for your state to see. Never say your a Business LOL.......
@@bensherrick I as well hold a class A. Have held one for the last 10 years and have ran my fair share of gooseneck loads but have never heard of anyone needing a cdl for ¾ton and a single wheel 30' RGN. But yes you couldn't be more right, never tell then that you have a business. Especially if your business has nothing to do with haulin shit lol. 🤙🏼✌🏼
This reminded me of the time I was pulled over by a Tennessee state trooper because he thought I wasn't wearing a seat belt. I was driving a company van and the seat belt was the same color as my jacket. He then proceeded to tell me that I had to have a CDL because I was driving a commercial vehicle. I informed him that I had been pulled over in company vehicles and had gone through several license and registration checkpoints in the time that I had been working for the company and nobody had ever told me that I needed a CDL. He proceeded to tell me that he was going to let me off with a warning. I told my boss about it and he called the Department of Safety to ask about it. They said that they wished he would have written the ticket so he would get educated by the judge when I went to court to fight it.
We de-rated our GN trailer from 15,900 to 14,400 for this exact reason. We have a 2007 LBZ so that combination wouldn’t have met the CDL criteria but we are looking at new trucks and for GVWR purposes we can only buy a 6.6 diesel in a 2500 or a 6.6 gas in a 3500. Both trucks have a GVWR near 11,500. The 2017-19 3500 has the same 11,500 GVWR. It’s a numbers game and is different due to different specs and truck builds. Dually, 2wd, different cab configurations, engines, etc… all changes the GVWR slightly.
Go get your cdl. Class A. Not to bad to do. Worth it in the long run. Make sure you get endorsements like air brakes just for safe measure cause you never know where you may end up in the future. Good luck man!
I agree. Get a class A from the start with Air brake and tanker endorsement. You'll also need a medical card. Honesty is always the best policy, but in this case you offered too much information to the cop. Keep the great videos coming!
Get all the endorsements offered (double-triple trailers, tanker, etc.) Each are only a few extra questions on the written exam. They're easy to get and will give you maximum flexibility.
I was behind you when you got pulled over 🤣
Got dizzy first 3 minutes of your vid of you in the garage pacing back and forth and moving around so much.
Ride Of Life same
There you go all you may sayers. They go based off what the six sticker says on the truck and the sticker that says on the trailer so if you have a Dooley at 14,000 pounds and you have a trailer at 14,000 pounds you get pulled over you’re technically required to have a CDL whether or not you’re pulling that kind of weight they go based off the stickers of the truck and trailer. And this video proves my point.!.. even if he wasn’t using it for a business the fact is his combined weight that his rig is capable of hauling is over 26,100, do you need a CDL. Period. That is why trailer manufacturers has something called the reading or this is a non-CDL trailer.
Depends on the state whether you need more than a standard DL for 26K+ lbs for noncommercial use (1T dually w/5th wheel camper for example). I think TX requires it. Sounds like his state it's a no, but he brought up "business" to the trooper. In MN there isn't a special requirement.
No. That’s commercial. The reason this became a problem was he said “business”
You don’t tell blue tyrants anything.
If you ate unsure about trucks or trucking of any kind. Ask an experienced trucker. Never be afraid to ask.
Right to 'FREE TRAVEL' being shit on daily by these road pirates.
Hey Jack, take the $1000 fine to court. I did and got it down to $100. They are pretty lenient when it’s the first time.
Gerald Zimmerman Nice last name
First off, can I love a video? Just based off of the hat? Sorry I can only give it one thumbs up. I may have two thumbs up the video on other phones and devices!
If at all possible don’t get a DOT number and just use “Private Not For Hire” on the side of your truck. If you get the Dot number you have more regulations that you have to comply with as well as being required to enter weigh stations when open. Being that you are just pulling your own business stuff around and not going after other freight Private Not For Hire would be my suggestion on the way to go.
But now he's in the system and it's documented. Can't hide any of it anymore really.
Man, it sounds like PA makes it very confusing lol, here in my province in BC, we can tow without a class 1 license (CDL). If we have a regular driver's license (class 5) we can tow up to 10,100 pounds, if we tow more than that we need a class 5 with heavy trailer endorsement. If we drive a single axle truck with air brakes, it's class 5 license with air brake endorsement, if it's a truck with a tandem or tri drive it's a class 3 with air brakes. If you're towing a trailer with that said tandem or tri axle you need your class 1 (CDL)
You can depending on your use of trailer such as an RV a higher rated capacity drivers license than 26k pounds but not for commercial purposes in some states. So if you have an RV for personal use you are not commercial so you do not need CDL but need higher rating of lincese with tests to drive higher GVWR for personal use.
STOP DON'T TALK TO COPS! They are not there to help you.
But what if they seem nice lmao
Welcome to the big leagues.
The insurance for cdl is going to be expensive to start
John M CDL is the license your insurance is in no way effected by the license. The vehicle to be insured for commercial use is a different story.
They’re always real nice about writing you a ticket #takingawayrights
So your truck was GVRW 11,350 and you said you had a 15k trailer. If you would have said you had a 14k trailer would you still have gotten a ticket? If you would have had USDOT numbers and a CDL would you have been able to not get a ticket? If you had your CDL and USDOT numbers would you have to had your truck plated for 28k in Pennsylvania to not get a ticket?
Thumbs up for sharing your cruddy experience in a positive way and trying to hide the DOT cop (he doesn't deserve it buy it shows you have some class). Who knows, you might have saved me ONE ThOuSaNd dollars. That is worth a thumbs up. ROFL
Man! I am sorry you had to go through all of that! But now we know💯 thanks for the great content as always! Keep it up! 💯🔥👊🏻
This would have made for a good collaboration. Ive been explaining this to folks for a long time.
Yeah man everyone needs a CDL and a semi truck to pull their camper, we’ve seen your videos
Road pirates are always nice when they're stealing money
If the gcvw (combination of both vehicle and trailer[what it’s capable of hauling])is over 26001lbs it’s a cdl, if the trailer gvwr is over 10001lbs it is considered a Class A license (passenger vehicle is a class c). If the trailer is under 10001lb but the power vehicle (truck) is over 26001 it is a class B
That cop/trooper was not nice. He respectful and professional. But he should have cut you some slack.
Talked yourself into a ticket. Never talk to the police
Always a respectable man! Love that about ya. Keep the videos coming man!❤️
That was a very good interaction. You handled yourself very well and respectful to the officer.
As are retired Sgt may I give you some advice. Do not volunteer any information. They can and will use it against you.
Completely agree… however, now it’s about 921,000 views vs return on investment against the fine :) but yes.. You have the right to remain silent!
So if you have a 3/4 ton truck a trailer and skidsteer you need a CDL
Question are your "pretty wheels and tires" load compliant? TIres would have to be at least load range E 10 ply to handle towing.
Tuck the tires back into the fenders and don't bring unwanted attention.
Theres no way you were overweight with an empty trailer!
They go off of what it's rated for, not what it actually weighs.
Goes by GVWR
i believe it is the combination of both truck and trailer, GCWR . Not the actual weight. The truck. GVWR was 11,350 + 15,000 trailer =26,350 So he is over the 26,000 regular D.L For RV towing you can get a Non-Commercial A licesen for over 26,000 GCWR. So he probably needs the CDL for the business.
That empty trailer only weighs like 6 0r 7000 lbs so it's not overweight as it is , so if Pennsylvania is fining for an unloaded trailer that's bullshit I don't care how the dot wants to manipulate it, they dont fine 18 wheelers empty , only when there loaded and overweight
top hand cuz tractor trailer drivers have a cdl. Anything with a gvwr over 26,000 needs a cdl
For the future when you buy a new trailer you can get 1 that's rated at 15,900 just have it derated to 12000-14000 depending on your truck GVWR to stay under 26,001. I do non-cdl hotshot trucking that how I know but you can only have it derated from the manufacturer/dealer when it's brand new and never been registered. This will not work for used trailers.
Well for everyone who really don’t know the DOT officer was professional and lenient he only gave him the one fine witch is federal law but he could have dinged him for even more like no dot number full permit no cdl no fire extinguisher and if truck is not license for the weight so it’s a lesson you learn specially when your in business
Glad to see your still killing it man! Love the truck
Been wondering about your setup and the laws.. great information!!