Sony FX6 | First Look
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Sony FX6: www.proav.co.uk/sony-fx6-cine...
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00:00 Intro
00:52 The Sensor
01:22 Framerates & Resolutions
01:44 Sensitivity
03:59 The Codecs
04:40 RAW Output
05:15 Ergonomics
06:35 Variable ND
07:00 Autofocus
07:44 Catalyst Browse
08:30 Conclusion - Фільми й анімація
Ok, it's official. This has been the greatest year of camera releases in history.
It’s been pretty crazy hasn’t it!
Carl
no prores/dnx internal, no deal!
@@art_means_artificial yes I agree, + no IBIS, no EVF, No internal raw even no ProRes in 2020 year, no raw even with HDMI only SDI, no 3.5mm jack, even no microphone jack on body only on handle ,No AF tracking on poor 3.5 display(in this price level in 2020 at least 4-5 inches!!!) etc etc etc ,look at P.Bloom review or EOSHD web...:-(I am not so happy with this machine,sorry Sony...
wooooow excitement levels went straight from log to rec709 as soon as I started watching the video, this piece of camera body seems to be so lovely!
Now that's what I call a comment! 😂 It's a really nice camera, what do you like about it?
Dan
@@ProAVTV favourite part would be the built-in VND and the fact that it fills the gap between the FS5/shrunk down FX9 and the A7SIII
Pretty solid job from Sony. I loved shooting with the FS5, and this looks really promising. Still love my bmpcc6k but so much choice this year !!
It's looking very nice for sure, and this year has been crazy for camera releases!
Dan
no prores/dnx internal, no deal!
Would you replace your FS5 with this camera?
@@art_means_artificial True on every Sony camera. However XAVC is a good codec edits reasonably well and quality is good enough. Intra variant gives you all the quality you can possibly want. If you need RAW you have the external option as well.
I know what I want for Christmas!
A viable C70 comparison?
Great! I'm excited. Now if I could only purchase the damn thing.
I feel bad for FX9 owners.
Amazing job on this one Sony, can’t wait to get mine!
Yeh, I’m sure some of them will be disappointed that this is such a capable camera and it’s priced lower than the FX9. But the FX9 still has some important practical advantages. I go over it in detail in our next video which we are working on now.
Carl
@@ProAVTV Yes, I think that the absence of a S35 4K crop mode (which is impossible because full sensor is 4K) is kind of a bummer, as great lenses like the Fujinon MK's for E-mount will not cover the full sensor. And no XLR-in or even a 3,5mm jack on the body for audio - that is all in the handle now, right? Still super stoked to how this stirs up the market. The FX6 vs. C70 vs. Komodo 6k$ shakedown is the camera battle we did not know we needed in 2020!
FX9 is still higher gear camera with better image quality. Targeted as replacement for FS7 which is still dominating productions of budget TV shows and TV movies. They don't really care about things like slow motion there. FX6 is more for free lancers wanting to upgrade from mirror-less cameras and get all the functions of real video camera.
Please do a market analysis for the fx6 I really enjoyed those videos you did on other cameras.
Definitely super impressed with this new jewel! I was actually in love with the Canon EOS C70 (kind of) but after this I’m reconsidering the whole ball game. Thanks for your great review 🙏. Cheers from Italy
I’m very impressed too!
Carl
no prores/dnx internal, no deal!
@@art_means_artificial I definitely understand your point, but you can always use the SDI output and record using an Atomos proresraw! Otherwise which cinema camera do you recommend?
Nice
A lot of people will order.
I hope they can deliver (without delay).
I'd be surprised if Sony were able to keep up with demand on this camera, considering how capable it is and how Covid has impacted most manufacturers supply chains.
I'm sure there will be a waiting list for the FX6 for a good while. But first batches of stock should be coming soon. So if you want one, best to get a preorder in early!
Carl
Many thanks for this review. Is there a quick way to switch from 4K 25 fps to 100 fps. Is this programmable by one button. What I understand is the fx6 not recording sound in 4k 120 fps mode?
What are the bit rates?
Will FX6 have touch to focus in a future firmware update?
Pre Ordered!!! Come home :)
hi this is prsad from india which is the best card to use in sony fx6 pls share the details thank u
Is that an MI2 shoe on the front of the handle so I can use with Sony dual receiver radio mics? Don't see any mention of it on the specs.
It is indeed, they'll work just fine.
Dan
Could you make a video about the S-Cinetone colors compared to the A7Siii? This might be (with the ND) THE reason to choose the FX6 over the A7siii. Thanks!
Great review Carl! Apart from the love for either sony or canon colour science which camera do prefer now: Canon c70 orSony Fx6?
Which do I prefer? Ah! Don’t make me pick!
Carl
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Does it have cache record?
It's like they forgot the documentary side with the audio abilities for this one, would be interested to see if you could fit a pair of G3's or G4's on that top handle and it's such a pity there isn't at very worst a 3.5mm audio input on the body where you could run it stripped down with proper audio, hopefully they will make an accessorie
Bare in mind they have the MI shoe which you can get two transmitters into one receiver with. That keeps your set up much smaller.
Carl
Or just use two AVX receivers directly plugged into the XLR socket.
If you wanna use several wireless mics, a sound assistant would be useful to premix it and send a mono signal to the camera, or record it prefader.
What's your recommendation for third party bp-u batteries for the fx6? core swx u98?
it is really impressive what you can get now for 6K(+/-). I mean it kind of outperforms the C500 Mark II on paper - apart from resolution.
This is crazy 😳
Yes it is crazy. On paper the A7S III and R5 out perform the c500 II as well though... specs aren’t everything!
Carl
Sony hit a home run with this cam....The only flaw is not having a XLR port on the body and need to rely on the handle....I cannot seem to find any shortcoming!
When doing 4K 120fps is it full frame or cropped?
An XLR port on the body itself would have been nice for sure, really with everything it packs I'm more than willing to let it slide. The 4K 120 uses the full sensor I believe.
Dan
Is there a Hot Shoe adapter for the on body Handle Connector? It would give an Audio option if not using the handle for a slimmed down build.
I believe the handle connects with an MI shoe, so you can use MI accessories directly on the camera without the handle attached. I’m not certain though, I’ll try and find out.
Carl
@@ProAVTV Thanks Carl, as one of the key concerns is that without the top handle you don't have any Audio input options
We've been spoilt for cameras this year. I think I'll stick with trying to buy a c70 next year though, for my requirements as it's a fair bit cheaper, I prefer the ergonomics and the stealthy nature (it looks more like a DSLR with the handle off and can therefore more easily blend in) of the c70 over the fx6, lots of EF/s glass, digital stabilisation looks handier and I'm not wanting to spend the extra time in post or the drive space for raw. I would have liked the exceptional lowlight capabilities and an SDI port, but can use an adapter for the rare times I need SDI and I buy new glass or upgrade it rarely so changing systems wouldn't be ideal, the ef booster kind of sold it to me, surprising how an accessory can do such a thing. I originally thought the R6 but too many compromises although I would have loved it for getting great stills as photography is one of my hobbies but couldn't justify it with the issues of overheating and lack of dual video recording a great pity.
Sounds like sensible decision making! The c70 is a great camera, I’m sure you will be very happy with it.
Carl
I miss the viewfinder. The solution with the loup is "okay". But it is a bit of a downstep, remembers me at the FS700.
Really? I never found the viewfinder on the FS5 to be very good and would never use it as it was too small.
Dan
@@ProAVTV Of course its a matter of taste. I use the VF on the FS5 a lot when i do run n gun stuff, collecting short statements from people on the street etc.
I can hold the camera more stable and block out the envivroment. I like to see my framing with only black surroundings ;-)
Absolutely, everyone has a different way they prefer to work, I've found myself shooting the exact same when shooting with the C200.
Dan
@@SuperRaven79 I think A7s3 is better for that.
@@frankfeng2701 You are right. The A7SIII checks more boxes to me. IBIS and viewfinder helps in that situations. Even a variable ND filter in front of the lens is faster and more tactile to adjust than the wheel/switch on the FX6/FS5. The very smart move from Sony is that i have to buy two cameras now. The FS5 was a workhorse for almost every situation.
If you develop with α system, realize sensor shift image stabilization
Give the fx9 RAW too!
It would be great if the FX9 could output RAW from the body, rather than requiring the XDCA back.
Dan
@@ProAVTV 4k 120 even in just UHD. Raw output from the body. All it takes!!! 😁
Sir, which is best for movies and stills ..... s7lll or fx6.... and for only movies!!! Pleass
Panasonic S1H:-)
👍👍👍
Serious question: What are the advantages of this camera compared to the canon C300 mark iii, apart from the full frame sensor and price?
Both are great cameras! Biggest advantage to me of the fx6 (other than size) is its variable ND. So helpful.
I do love images from the C300III though.
Carl
Electronic step-less auto variable ND, period.
I have it for underwater video
is the 2k 240 to shogun still a feature?
No I don’t believe so.
Carl
Canon C70/R5 vs Sony FX6/A1?
At last. BTW What lens is on the camera, I thought you could only get the 28-135 servo zoom, as on the FX9
Thats the 16-35mm G master: www.proav.co.uk/sony-fe-16-35mm-f2-8-gm-lens
Carl
@@ProAVTV Thanks. So not a servo lens. OK.
They have finally released the servo version of this lens: www.proav.co.uk/sony-fe-c-16-35-mm-t3-1-g-e-mount-lens although its quite pricy in comparison to the stills version.
Dan
@@ProAVTV Thanks again for your quick replies, you must have a huge number of queries. The servo 16-35, will have to wait until I get more projects! As much as I want to watch many more reviews, it is past my bed time here in Australia (3:20 am). Must order my FX6 when I wake up again.
You did mention ergonomics but forgot to mention how easy this form factor is to travel with, essential when packing gear for location assignments. FX9/A7Siii=FX6 Yay!
Thats a very good point, and was one of the main reasons we saw people picking up the FS5 over the FS7.
Dan
Absolutely! The size is fantastic for travel!
Carl
@@ProAVTV ... and exactly why I chose the FS5M2 over the 7 and held off buying the FX9, which is a great camera but quite cumbersome in the field whilst recording ProResRaw!
@@ProAVTV Great report as always Carl - good job.
Does it take 12mp pictures / stills?
No it doesn’t. This is a pure video camera.
Carl
How does the 16 Bit output benefit if there is currently no recorder on the market that can record 16 Bit? ProResRAW only goes up to 12 Bit anyway.
It's 16-bit linear which converts nicely to 12-bit log for ProRes RAW.
Its a better way of outputting raw with a lower noise floor than 12 bit log outputs, even if it just gets recorded as 12 bit.
Carl
It's 16-bit linear which converts nicely to 12-bit log for ProRes RAW.
Its a better way of outputting raw with a lower noise floor than 12 bit log outputs, even if it just gets recorded as 12 bit.
Carl
@@ProAVTV thx for the info!
great features on the FX6 i havent used seperate lens camcorder before just a fixed lens panasonic HCX1 for filming aircraft the roller shutter issues on this cam are not good i want a camcorder that cant shoot fast moveing images like aircraft etc airshows on sachtler video head tripod use
Rolling shutter on this is very well controlled. Should be fine for fast moving subjects.
Carl
FX6 will have good rolling shutter performance, for really fast moving stuff and when A7SIII or FX6 is not sufficient for your needs, you can look at the RED Komodo it has a global shutter and similar pricerange as the FX6.
ok thankyou micheal does the red komodo have great 20x zoom range plus would be great on sachtler FSB 8 video head with flowteck 75 tripod
@@anthonypeirce5875 Komodo is just a camera body as the FX6, you can attach canon lenses to it. For a 20x zoom range you'd have to at least use 2 lenses, for sony e.g. the 24-105 and the 100-400 and you still have to use clear-image-zoom to have an effective 20x range with those. For broadcast exist 20x zooms afaik but they cost as much as a new luxury supercar.
thankyou micheal i think i will stick with fixed lens camcorders the panasonic ag cx350 will be my next cam or wait to see what comes out early next year
Is the central scan mode avaiable with this camera ?
There is clear image zoom, but the super35mm crop mode is only 1080. That’s one of the main strengths of the FX9 because of its 6k sensor.
Carl
@@ProAVTV thanks
I have put money on a Sony z90 should I take the money I put on the Sony z90 off and put the money on this model and is there anything ghb going to replace the Sony z90
Well this is a very different camera to the z90. The z90 is starting to get near the time when we could see an update.. I would love the AF from these cameras ik the z90 for example.
Carl
@@ProAVTV my name is Vinnie I need to know what should do should do should I get this model
Or the z90
What are the differences
Isn’t the A7S III a higher res sensor? 12 megapixels vs 10
A7siii 12 megapixels is for photo.
@@andrecruz100 .. and RAW video... which is 4.2k
No, that’s the extra pixels from the vertical dimension of the sensor. Not important for 16:9 video.
Carl
WOW 💪🏼😉👍🏻 really a cinematic beast 🙏 this could be my new camcorder 👌 best cinematic greetings from a small 🥴 german filmmaker #filmmakingismypassion
Thanks for watching!
Carl
Hei, ProAV, I know it's not your focus but there is a situation going on in the market of cameras and computers.
We now have those H265 codecs which are amazing! The quality in those tiny files is unbelievable! but there are a lot of misconceptions.
Hardware can decode a certain chroma subsample versions of it, like 4:4:4, 4:2:0 etc
Nvidia clearly put on a table what the hardware can do (no 4:2:2), but AMD did not clarify anything. Could you shed some light on that? because they forgot us video producers!
Like you say, AMD haven't clarified anything...
It's frustrating, but the world of H.265 is a complicated one right now.
Carl
@@ProAVTV can't your media outlet "power" help to shape things and bring this issues to the producers?
What lenses will work with the Zoom Rocker?
Not many, only really the 28-135mm right now.
Carl
@@ProAVTV ... and I presume the new FE C 16-35mm T3.1?
Yep, that one will too.
Dan
Any 3rd Party Lens?
Any Weather Sealing?
No because of the active cooling. The camera will hold up ok, but you should definitely avoid getting it wet. There are large holes in the side due to the fan. The electronics are separated inside though.
Carl
@@ProAVTV Thanks Carl - That works for me if the Electronics are sealed.
This camera is the Alexa mini of the Sony line! Which means it’ll outshine the fx9/fs7. I shoot reality and lifestyle shows so this camera while smaller can be a fully functional shoulder camera! With the right rig parts it can be fitted to look like a fs7/fx9 on the shoulder and stripped down on broll/gimbal scenarios where you need a smaller footprint. When rigging it for shoulder it Might not be as tidy like the FS7/FX9but a its a good comprise for this level of modularity. It’ll be similar on how we dealt with the c300 mk i and mk ii over the years. And this takes current SD cards for most modes (very cool it also takes the higher end cards as well) which are so cheap compared to xqd and cf express cards. Production managers will be dancing in the streets saving money on media. Your flooding the market Sony but well done!!!!! Now take a holiday and stop putting out cameras for a couple of years.
Price?
The FX6 currently costs £4,995.00 (ex vat). For up to date pricing, we always recommend heading over to our website: www.proav.co.uk/sony-fx6-cinema-line-camera
Dan
Is it safe to say this is now the cheapest new Full Frame Cinema Camera in the market? I wish the Canon C70 was a Full frame camera so RF lenses would be full frame and not just EF lenses with the new adapter 😆
We just need a atomos recorder to have 16 bits?
16 bit linear raw = 12 bit log raw, which Atomos can do
I don't know... I try to know how we can record this external 16 bits. We need buy a accessory like fx9 or something...
@@andrecruz100 16 bit linear raw is the same as 12 bit log raw. Atomos can record it as 12 bit log raw. The only 16 bit linear recorder on the market is the $7,000 one Sony sells for the Venice.
You just need the shogun 7 to record the raw output from the fx6
Dan
@@ProAVTV thanks
Wow,...I'm SO glad that Sony dumped all the 4k 10bit Long GOP recording options. YES!....FINALLY! If they would have left them there, I would have been tempted to use them and that would have been bad. With them forcing me to use larger All-I 10bit 4k at double the bitrate instead, Sony is essentially saving me.....from myself. BRILLIANT!....Thank you Sony!
Well, that’s one way to look at it!
Carl
can't afford it
If you came across $6000 that was burning a hole in your pocket, Sony FX6 or Canon C70? That's me now. Please help.
No audio for scratch tracks without the handle. Swing and a miss.
its able to make a scratch track it has a small mic on the body of the camera.
A7S Mark III> Smaller, more updated software, less bulky et cetera. The FX6 was obsolete at release.
Different uses. FX6 body makes more sense for run and gun and is more flexible. You're right about the A7S III software, but FX6 ergonomics makes sense in more situations.
@@joellouisfire Very good points.
@@joellouisfire Does that justify paying twice as much?
Hmm,very very hard choice vs a7sIII:bigger(= no only size + weight but main for me it means more useless attention from people in some situations than with a7siii) and more expensive , no evf, no ibis("IBIS" only after, in PC, is for me really not the same and a lot of expensive FF sony lenses just a long time count with ibis -f.e. 24-70 2.8 gm,50mm1.4 ZA etcetcetc, the same Sigma...),no 3.5mm jack for microphone ,no raw with hdmi, ( the best would be internal raw vs blackmagic,canon etc, but i didnt expect this miracle because of no internal raw in fx9), bigger touchscreen looks better, but it is by Cinema5d worse in touch tracking than a7sIII(?!?), and of course a7siii only 12mpx but still better for photos, so it is just much more universal machine, but on the other side a7siii has no ND filters, no zoom rocker , no S-Cinetone, no DCI etcetcetc...ufufuf,really dont know...and btw. I am really afraid, that fx9 owners are not so very happy today, dont you think?!(very sorry for my poor poor english!)
Oh wow so a stepped up a7siii instead of a downgraded fx9
Too bad no ibis
I’d take internal ND over IBIS personally. Especially with lens IS and the new catalyst browse stabilisation.
Carl
C'mon! There is No view finder!?
you can use the same loupe as the fx9.. then its exactly the same .. who would ever want to work with that thing on the back of the fs5 or the c300,s..
A great viewfinder would have been nice. But I’d rather see no viewfinder than a very simple one like on the fs5. No one used it.
Carl
it's becoming very hard to justify buying canon instead of sony... at this point if you prefer canon colors you are better of stepping up your color grading skills and get the FX6. If the c70 was a full frame camera, the RF trinity zooms would have given canon the advantage do to the stabilization that these lenses have integrated in them . I want the RF 24-70 and 70-200on a full frame run and gun documentary work horse camera, but canon is jus waisting time.
It's getting very competitive out there! It's a great time to be in the market for a video camera. There are so many great choices. Lots of it comes down to what people are familiar with and user preference, as with anything else in other markets. Can both a high end mac and a high end pc do what you need? Absolutely. But different people buy each one because they prefer working that way. Same with Canon and Sony.
Carl
Answer is spot on!
Pieces to camera. Not piece to cameras.
You are 100% right, apologies. I’m a camera operator at heart I’m afraid, not a presenter or a writer.
Carl
@@ProAVTV Well that’s clearly not true! I think your videos are well written and presented.
pissed camera, nothing new, even simpler and even easier, in the end we are given only 16: 9 \ 17: 9 video, no 2.7p no 3:2, 4:3
Who would record at 4:3?
16:9 and DCI are most common production formats.
If you wanna use something special, than you’ve to crop in post.
@@WupperVideo
what do you mean who?
I will do it, and those who understand the structure of the video are professionals - filmmakers, and amateur weddings and flowers in the park you can shoot with this junk.