When I was a kid I thought it was a real drum but it is a mix of both, you can notice that the HiHat and the kick are more relevant at the beginning of the track than in starts to transition more into the drum machine but still the drum is the most relevant in the entire track. Thanks for watching!
@@NostalgicExplorerActually it’s kinda weird, the song was originally recorded with a modified LinnDrum with LM-1 chips, but it was changed last minute to be played with live drums, if you listen to Michael’s acapella, you can hear the LinnDrum in his headphone bleed
@@NostalgicExplorer I've just listened to it again, that is not a mix of live drums and Linn, thats all Linn, so unless they processed the live drums to sound like Linn, which is not unheard of, they were certainly going for a mix that didnt distract and they had the outboard gear to process the heck out of anything, I'm going to say its all Linn.
I have always preferred the Linndrum sounds, both on records and in my own use dating back to the 80s. Punchier and better sounding.The kick for example; the quintessential Linn kick is that, not the LM1. One of very best kicks ever recorded. 😊 also the layout of the machine and smaller size and beautiful aesthetics thanks to those sophisticated West Coast guys Roger Linn and Smith of sequentia. they had the best aesthetics ever seen to this day, that matched the soohisticated sounds. The Linndrum (and Prophet 5)is simply a work of art to use and to look at. Thanks for the useful comparisons.
I completely agree with you. The LM-1 was an incredible starting point that paved the way for the more sophisticated and well-crafted LinnDrum. I love both in terms of sound, but as you mentioned, the design of the LinnDrum truly is “a work of art.” Thanks for watching!
Yes, actually when you hear them together for me it sounds more like the original track. Maybe the Linndrum help to emulate the real drum in this experiment. Cheers!
I have a question. Why are you faking the programming? The light on the LM-1 is supposed to blink on the main downbeat when loop is repeated. The light on your machine is randomly blinking with no correlation to the bar count.
Thanks for your comment! I actually ran into some trouble syncing the tempo perfectly in Logic. Initially, I recorded using the LM-1, but I noticed the tempo was slightly faster, so I had to re-record. Unfortunately, I ran into issues with the video footage, so I had to work with what I had. Apologies for any confusion, and I really appreciate your understanding!
@@CallieRogers-d8p the LM-1 does not have MIDI and it has to be installed. Bruce Forat does that job in California. He is the best. For a logic I had to play each part live for 4 bars using the click, very artisanal. 🙃🎹
@NostalgicExplorer You don t slave the LM-1? Tempo drift seems to be the tempo knob… using a roland sbx 1 and a garfield minidoc seems a way to have it sync. Not sure if it is rock solid with a daw…
@@klinkske I could have used the Arturia Beatstep Pro which I have but because I was a bit frustrated with the tempo I forgot that was an option. What you are suggesting is also another great option.
Yes, they used the drum machine to align it with the real drum when they recorded. I talk a bit more about it here: ua-cam.com/video/Et-xYWUbJlU/v-deo.html Happy New Year!
Keep posting man! Videos are cool!
Thanks!
I always thought it was only live drums...I guess not.
When I was a kid I thought it was a real drum but it is a mix of both, you can notice that the HiHat and the kick are more relevant at the beginning of the track than in starts to transition more into the drum machine but still the drum is the most relevant in the entire track. Thanks for watching!
You are right. These were in fact live drums.
@@NostalgicExplorerActually it’s kinda weird, the song was originally recorded with a modified LinnDrum with LM-1 chips, but it was changed last minute to be played with live drums, if you listen to Michael’s acapella, you can hear the LinnDrum in his headphone bleed
@@dominicferrini Well, Billie Jean is a great song with the fact that it has both drums and the LinnDrum like you said.
@@NostalgicExplorer The LM-1 and the LinnDrum can be heard on the demos of Billie Jean though
Billie Jean has live drums. Just the LM-1 shaker, clap and toms are used on it
Yes, it was a mix of both. Cheers and thanks for watching!
@@NostalgicExplorer I always thought it was just the LinnDrum, listening back it certainly sounds like its just the LinnDrum.
@@paradoxstate5018 Yeah, I thought the same and it has for sure that LinnDrum distinctive sound.
@@NostalgicExplorer I've just listened to it again, that is not a mix of live drums and Linn, thats all Linn, so unless they processed the live drums to sound like Linn, which is not unheard of, they were certainly going for a mix that didnt distract and they had the outboard gear to process the heck out of anything, I'm going to say its all Linn.
@@paradoxstate5018 No, the song with live drums and Linn LM-1 percussion..
I have always preferred the Linndrum sounds, both on records and in my own use dating back to the 80s. Punchier and better sounding.The kick for example; the quintessential Linn kick is that, not the LM1. One of very best kicks ever recorded. 😊 also the layout of the machine and smaller size and beautiful aesthetics thanks to those sophisticated West Coast guys Roger Linn and Smith of sequentia. they had the best aesthetics ever seen to this day, that matched the soohisticated sounds. The Linndrum (and Prophet 5)is simply a work of art to use and to look at. Thanks for the useful comparisons.
I completely agree with you. The LM-1 was an incredible starting point that paved the way for the more sophisticated and well-crafted LinnDrum. I love both in terms of sound, but as you mentioned, the design of the LinnDrum truly is “a work of art.” Thanks for watching!
Can you make a video about Running Up That Hill’s drum programming on the LinnDrum?
Absolutely!
The linndrum sounds more accurate for some reason. Why does the snare on the original sounds unlike any of these machines?
Because its a real drummer overlayed with a drum machine.
@fender1000100 is right about it.
Yes, actually when you hear them together for me it sounds more like the original track. Maybe the Linndrum help to emulate the real drum in this experiment. Cheers!
He dropped a tennis ball on a drum case too and put that in there too if I recall
@@wesleywild-s9x Interesting, what do you think was the purpose of it? To make the drum sound tighter?
I have the same shirt 👚 💪🏽😁
Yeah! Got it when I bought the micro freak in a synth expo in Brooklyn, NY. Cheers!
@ a rep gave one at guitar center
Nice@@bboymac84
I have a question. Why are you faking the programming? The light on the LM-1 is supposed to blink on the main downbeat when loop is repeated. The light on your machine is randomly blinking with no correlation to the bar count.
Thanks for your comment! I actually ran into some trouble syncing the tempo perfectly in Logic. Initially, I recorded using the LM-1, but I noticed the tempo was slightly faster, so I had to re-record. Unfortunately, I ran into issues with the video footage, so I had to work with what I had. Apologies for any confusion, and I really appreciate your understanding!
@@NostalgicExplorer Oh wow. Does your LM-1 have midi installed? How are you syncing it with logic?
@@CallieRogers-d8p the LM-1 does not have MIDI and it has to be installed. Bruce Forat does that job in California. He is the best. For a logic I had to play each part live for 4 bars using the click, very artisanal. 🙃🎹
@NostalgicExplorer You don t slave the LM-1? Tempo drift seems to be the tempo knob… using a roland sbx 1 and a garfield minidoc seems a way to have it sync. Not sure if it is rock solid with a daw…
@@klinkske I could have used the Arturia Beatstep Pro which I have but because I was a bit frustrated with the tempo I forgot that was an option. What you are suggesting is also another great option.
Its both. The intro is a real drummer. Then throughout the song a drum machine comes in.
Yes, they used the drum machine to align it with the real drum when they recorded. I talk a bit more about it here: ua-cam.com/video/Et-xYWUbJlU/v-deo.html Happy New Year!