OK, this is officially the most nerdy thing I've ever seen on UA-cam or at least gotta be way up there. I loved it. Great job. Keep going super cool regarding the when the levy breaks sample.
That snare is so iconic. So many hip hop songs used it right after Tears for Fears made it famous. "Pee Wee's Dance" By Joeski Love, Whodini "Funky Beat", Beastie Boys "Beastie Groove", Run-DMC "Walk this Way" and countless others but my favorite will always be Tears for Fears "Shout" (US 12" Remix)
I got misty-eyed watching this video. I got a knock-off Walkman when I was 14 and Big Chair, still a fairly new release, was one of the first cassettes I bought. I must’ve listened to it ten million times and 41 years later the sound of the intro hi-hat and bells still thrills me. It’s wonderful to see how it was made. Thank you!
I actually sampled the drums from when the levee breaks and used software to separate the different sounds (as i did not have any stems from them). The separator (regroover pro ) did a great job and separated the kick, snare and the shakers that was used on it. I hardly knew song but instantly felt it was about the most epic sounding ' natural' drum. I found out that when you speed up the when the levy break drums in the analog manner, meaning that when you speed up the sounds get higher in pitch and the slower you play them the lower pitched they get, that the reason it sounds so big is basically just because it is a slowed down recording of a drum set. If you speed it up, it stops sounding big and bombastic but rather sounds like a nromal drum recording. I think for this reason it sounds most natural if you use these essentially slowed down samples in a quite slow bpm , or at least make the kick and the beat not follow each other too quickly but leave some time in between because that naturally happens when you slow down a drum groove. A morphed real sample usually sounds much more interesting than one fully digitally created one, but even better if you do stuff to it so that it still retains the interesting non simplistic sounding elements and character that fully digital drums usually completely lack. I think the also epic sounding drums from the track from bjork ' army of me' sound also big, and if i remember correctly (but not sure, years ago) it was also just a regular drum that was slowed down in an analog manner. The last drum I find sound big and epic in a similar way is from the puff daddy cover from kashmir from led zeppelin song , ' come with me' sound also very big, but I am not sure how they fully did it as its not simply a slowed down version. Maybe they used other methods. Would you know which to make it sound so big? (puff daddy - come with me) Do you happen to have these bell sounds, toms and such and such as separate recordings maybe, without them being overplayed by each other? I'd love hear them in an isolated manner seperate . While these sort very big sounding drums are great, it can be challenge to find equally big sounding other drum elements to use along with them. Also, i'd love to hear if you know more songs that have such type of drums...the slow, ultra big sounding, yet acoustic sounding drums.
Behringer actually bought a Yamaha DX-1 and a Linn Drum at an auction. The case that the Linn Drum was in also contained a bunch of Eprom chips for the Linn Drum. The drums for Shout were included. Behringer is making those sounds as a soundbank for their Linn Drum clone. Behringer's clone is going to be released very soon.
This is one of the first songs I played drums to when I was about 8 years old. I always wondered how that drum track was created- it sounded too real to be a drum machine, but it was!
I remember those sounds. I bought a LinnDrum when they first came out and it was stored at my mom's house through the '90s. I had Bruce Forat set it up for MIDI along with a Rhodes Chroma around '93. When my mom sold her house she reminded me I had some gear that I should pick up. About 20 years ago, I donated it to the Museum of Making Music in Carlsbad, CA. It was an awesome piece of gear.
My Emu Drumulator was stock with those Levee Breaks kick and snare samples. The amount of hits generated from samples of that one song is pretty amazing
Love this, great work! I wonder if these same Linn units used on their debut album "The Hurting", which also has some great drum programming throughout. So many great tracks to dissect for future videos, a few of the top of my head: Men Without Hats "Safety Dance" Alphaville "Big in Japan" Soft Cell "Torch" Depeche Mode "Never Let Me Down Again"
I still have my original Oberhiem DX that I paid around $1100 for in 1983. I'll never sell it. I've heard New Order used one back in the 80s. They probably had the more expensive DMX which had more options. I just subscribed. This is some great stuff!!!
Terrific video. If you can do anything on Naked Eyes first album, that would be fantastic. I love all the sounds and textures they used, including the drums.
Awesome... pure gold. I did some drum machine programming beats in the 1980s- 1990s. My first drum machine was an Oberheim DX, and it had interchangeable eproms also. I really liked the sound but its short coming was that it was released just prior to Midi being implemented. My next drums machines were the Korg DDD-1, Alesis HR-16 and later the SR-16. I also used a variety of Simmons and later Roland electronic drums, and even had a tiny Mattel Synsonics Drums. Between these and various keyboards and samplers I really had a great variety of drum sounds. The best part of the Linn, as well as my machines, was the ability to loop 4 or 8 bars (or more) and "add" sounds as you went. I sometimes recorded the snare hits "live" while recording on 2inch 24tracks to get a more realistic vibe or feel instead of being quantized. All the days... thank you for the video and sending me down a long forgotten era of my life.
Roland Orzabal often mentions the use of the when levee breaks snare sound. Fish out of Water drums are from that sample, but taken from a sample and loops CD at the time. I think he used again on their more recent songs.
Very cool. Pretty sure John Bonham‘s kick sample was also used in “Relax” by Frankie goes to Hollywood amongst others 🤔 I remember programming Funky Cold Medina into my Roland TR505 back in the day 😂
I see Captain Pikant has some competition 😏 I travelled back to the UK 2 years ago and found my original vinyl copy of Songs From The Big Chair. Still a great album. Of course it came back to the US with me!
That was amazing... And to learn that the original samples for the "Digi Drums" EPROM kit were samples of John Bonham plus some custom / matching recordings of toms is some really cool knowledge. Thanks for the great vid!
Yess! Can’t wait for your next video 😊 Also, the sounds on that chip are utterly amazing! We would love to put them on a Roland SPDs and have a live jam with them! Are you going to put them online somewhere for people to play around with?
That’s interesting. I thought those were sampled gogo bells. I would like to hear your take on the Tina Turner cover of Al Green from 1983, “Let’s Stay Together”. That would be something of a doozy when you think about how involved the sequencing of both the Fairlight and the LinnDrum.
Great video nick. I was fortunate to have a Linndrum with this excellent eprom set. It sadly got damaged due a burnout. I eventually bought a sequential drumtracks & recaptured that great sound again.
Love your Video. I have some eproms with some of the Sounds for my Oberheim DX and my SCI Drumtraks, still on the Hunt for some sounds. Cant await to see your next Video. Take care.
Great video thank you. Do you know if the triangle EPROM uses any of the same round robin sort of technique like the hi-hats? Might be just the reverb but to me it's got a much nicer sound to it than just a single sample would suggest.
Awesome video! More more more!! Something I’ve always wondered is how drum machines were recorded in the 80s. It’s so simple now to solo everything and then move it into place.
Amazing recreation and great knowledge, I heard there was a sample from a Talking Heads track used on Shout, I wonder what was used and where it is in the song
Liked and subscribed! Great video & almost perfect recreation. I guess the triangle’s pitched down a few semitones (compared to the original) in order to avoid automated false copyright claims? Otherwise damn near identical… 🎉
I sampled When the Levee Breaks myself but also Never Let Me Down Again by Depeche Mode is a favorite and I’ve tried to cover it a few times so actually having that confirmed like that is mind blown. Kuz I would just randomly transient slice the LedZep hits in my Electribe being like “this might work for NLMD …” and then kinda just listen to the loop like … No friggin way … kuz the fan sites almost always just list the gear lol
Wow! Did no one really call those kick and snare sounds came from When the Levy Breaks? I mean I never put it together because I never heard them soloed. But, it's kinda something you can't unhear even in context.
Thank you! Take on me uses the stock linndrum snare and there is also one hit of the same snare completely detuned. It also uses a couple sounds from a DX7 rom cartridge. I will be covering take on me in an upcoming episode.
I didnt knew they use alternative chip for the linndrum , since they also have a Fairlight they could be sample from it with the page R as a drum machine sequencer, but the linndrum was clearly brighter , compare to the muffled sound of the Fairlight II , in fact any Emulator II or Synclavier could do the job at the time , they probably prefer the workflow of those rompler drum machine...
@CVsoundlabs like custom made tape for mellotron those custom chip eeprom probably cost a fortune back then, i remember a time when even an AKAI S 1000 cost a fortune, but it was more affordable than those drum machine...
Yes yes. Who knew dissecting things that you have heard a million times voukd be such fun. More please from all 80s kids
OK, this is officially the most nerdy thing I've ever seen on UA-cam or at least gotta be way up there. I loved it. Great job. Keep going super cool regarding the when the levy breaks sample.
That snare is so iconic. So many hip hop songs used it right after Tears for Fears
made it famous. "Pee Wee's Dance" By Joeski Love, Whodini "Funky Beat", Beastie
Boys "Beastie Groove", Run-DMC "Walk this Way" and countless others but my
favorite will always be Tears for Fears "Shout" (US 12" Remix)
I got misty-eyed watching this video. I got a knock-off Walkman when I was 14 and Big Chair, still a fairly new release, was one of the first cassettes I bought. I must’ve listened to it ten million times and 41 years later the sound of the intro hi-hat and bells still thrills me. It’s wonderful to see how it was made. Thank you!
Thank you so much for watching. New episode next week.
I actually sampled the drums from when the levee breaks and used software to separate the different sounds (as i did not have any stems from them). The separator (regroover pro ) did a great job and separated the kick, snare and the shakers that was used on it. I hardly knew song but instantly felt it was about the most epic sounding ' natural' drum. I found out that when you speed up the when the levy break drums in the analog manner, meaning that when you speed up the sounds get higher in pitch and the slower you play them the lower pitched they get, that the reason it sounds so big is basically just because it is a slowed down recording of a drum set. If you speed it up, it stops sounding big and bombastic but rather sounds like a nromal drum recording. I think for this reason it sounds most natural if you use these essentially slowed down samples in a quite slow bpm , or at least make the kick and the beat not follow each other too quickly but leave some time in between because that naturally happens when you slow down a drum groove.
A morphed real sample usually sounds much more interesting than one fully digitally created one, but even better if you do stuff to it so that it still retains the interesting non simplistic sounding elements and character that fully digital drums usually completely lack.
I think the also epic sounding drums from the track from bjork ' army of me' sound also big, and if i remember correctly (but not sure, years ago) it was also just a regular drum that was slowed down in an analog manner. The last drum I find sound big and epic in a similar way is from the puff daddy cover from kashmir from led zeppelin song , ' come with me' sound also very big, but I am not sure how they fully did it as its not simply a slowed down version. Maybe they used other methods. Would you know which to make it sound so big? (puff daddy - come with me)
Do you happen to have these bell sounds, toms and such and such as separate recordings maybe, without them being overplayed by each other? I'd love hear them in an isolated manner seperate . While these sort very big sounding drums are great, it can be challenge to find equally big sounding other drum elements to use along with them.
Also, i'd love to hear if you know more songs that have such type of drums...the slow, ultra big sounding, yet acoustic sounding drums.
The same drums were used on Never Let Me Down Again, also engineered by Dave Bascombe
@@sincinati yup! I will be covering Depeche Mode in future episodes.
My kind of video❤
Wow that video was amazing. Would love to see some more 80s stuff!
Behringer actually bought a Yamaha DX-1 and a Linn Drum at an auction. The case that the Linn Drum was in also contained a bunch of Eprom chips for the Linn Drum. The drums for Shout were included. Behringer is making those sounds as a soundbank for their Linn Drum clone. Behringer's clone is going to be released very soon.
This is one of the first songs I played drums to when I was about 8 years old. I always wondered how that drum track was created- it sounded too real to be a drum machine, but it was!
Amazing. Cover whatever you wish. This series will become an instant classic.
Great video! KEEP more of THIS coming!! A-ha ,pet shop boys ...etc...
When you started to play those triangle I got a chill ! Such memories, thank you for this incredible demo and your research work. Cheers from Canada.
Yeah, "a chill", exactly what I felt as well. A chill!!
I remember those sounds. I bought a LinnDrum when they first came out and it was stored at my mom's house through the '90s. I had Bruce Forat set it up for MIDI along with a Rhodes Chroma around '93. When my mom sold her house she reminded me I had some gear that I should pick up. About 20 years ago, I donated it to the Museum of Making Music in Carlsbad, CA. It was an awesome piece of gear.
Hell yea. Thanks for sharing. The Linndrum is one of my favorite pieces of gear ever made. New episode will be out this week.
My Emu Drumulator was stock with those Levee Breaks kick and snare samples. The amount of hits generated from samples of that one song is pretty amazing
Insane, how recognizable a song is... just by hearing the first sounds of this legendary drum machine!
That's a trademark for '80s songs
That was awesome!
Great video
Looking forward to more
Depeche Mode
New Order
The Cure
Front 242
Thank you Maestro.
Love this, great work!
I wonder if these same Linn units used on their debut album "The Hurting", which also has some great drum programming throughout.
So many great tracks to dissect for future videos, a few of the top of my head:
Men Without Hats "Safety Dance"
Alphaville "Big in Japan"
Soft Cell "Torch"
Depeche Mode "Never Let Me Down Again"
I still have my original Oberhiem DX that I paid around $1100 for in 1983. I'll never sell it. I've heard New Order used one back in the 80s. They probably had the more expensive DMX which had more options. I just subscribed. This is some great stuff!!!
Brilliant research and authentic recreation. And to the point! Superb stuff. 👍
Wonderful recreation and fantastic research about those details
still sounds fantastic today! so sich in texture.
Brilliant work Bruce! What a rhythm it was... and still is. You know it's good because the drums alone are all you need for that big song feeling.
I hope you make millions...you deserve it. Thanks for what youre doing!!
Awesome, this channel will blow up if you can maintain this professional recreation of iconic music
@@danieltrochei4544 thank you! I hope you are correct. Episode 2 coming next week.
I agree! Good stuff!
This channel is FANTASTIC! Thank you so much for this, sir.
it's too bad that this video ends! amazing content. subbed
This is pure awesomeness. Thank you so much for uploading this video.
Amazing! You cracked the tone code with that one. Well done!
Crushing that drum programming!!! 🤯
Terrific video. If you can do anything on Naked Eyes first album, that would be fantastic. I love all the sounds and textures they used, including the drums.
Voices in my head
Fantastic work!
@@briankonash8438 thank you! Episode 2 coming soon.
Great video! You did some excellent research to dig up the exact sounds used. Hope to see more videos like this. Subbed.
@@shadowfall2823 really appreciate it! Episode 2 will be out next week.
This is awesome! Thanks
Yes! More of this please!
Awesome... pure gold. I did some drum machine programming beats in the 1980s- 1990s. My first drum machine was an Oberheim DX, and it had interchangeable eproms also. I really liked the sound but its short coming was that it was released just prior to Midi being implemented. My next drums machines were the Korg DDD-1, Alesis HR-16 and later the SR-16. I also used a variety of Simmons and later Roland electronic drums, and even had a tiny Mattel Synsonics Drums. Between these and various keyboards and samplers I really had a great variety of drum sounds.
The best part of the Linn, as well as my machines, was the ability to loop 4 or 8 bars (or more) and "add" sounds as you went. I sometimes recorded the snare hits "live" while recording on 2inch 24tracks to get a more realistic vibe or feel instead of being quantized.
All the days... thank you for the video and sending me down a long forgotten era of my life.
Roland Orzabal often mentions the use of the when levee breaks snare sound. Fish out of Water drums are from that sample, but taken from a sample and loops CD at the time. I think he used again on their more recent songs.
Very cool. Pretty sure John Bonham‘s kick sample was also used in “Relax” by Frankie goes to Hollywood amongst others 🤔
I remember programming Funky Cold Medina into my Roland TR505 back in the day 😂
Amazing production value! Subscribed!
I see Captain Pikant has some competition 😏 I travelled back to the UK 2 years ago and found my original vinyl copy of Songs From The Big Chair. Still a great album. Of course it came back to the US with me!
This is awesome, the nuts and bolts behind such a recognizable sound. So cool to see how it was created . Looking forward to more content.
Thank you! New episode this week.
Nice! I love that this is going to be a series. Subscribed, thanks.
Outstanding
That was amazing... And to learn that the original samples for the "Digi Drums" EPROM kit were samples of John Bonham plus some custom / matching recordings of toms is some really cool knowledge. Thanks for the great vid!
Thanks for watching! Episode 2 will be out next week.
Great stuff! Looking forward to more of your content!👍
Thank you! New episode will be out this week.
HELL YES! Instant fan of this YT channel .... do one on any Depeche Mode ! :)
Thank you! I will definitely be covering Depeche Mode in future episodes.
Yess! Can’t wait for your next video 😊
Also, the sounds on that chip are utterly amazing! We would love to put them on a Roland SPDs and have a live jam with them!
Are you going to put them online somewhere for people to play around with?
Great video! Looking forward to watching more.
Thank you! New episode will be out this week.
Good stuff….as an 80s drum programmer it’s great to see your dedication to the art. Keep it up. Oh…maybe some Prince tracks? Kiss?
Thank you so much! Means a lot. I’ve dedicated the past 10 years to learning these machines. New episode will be out this week.
Fantastic video! Really looking forward to your future videos.
Thank you so much! New episode will be out this week.
I can’t believe that this is the first video on your channel, because the production quality is very good! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! New episode this week.
kick-ass performance (and great research!) multiple thumbs up 👍👍👍
Thank you! New episode will be out next week.
Amazing
Great work!
Thank you! New episode this week.
that reverb sounds so good
AMS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@CVsoundlabs "AMS"?
accelerator mass spectrometry?
acute mountain sickness?
What??
@@Noone-of-your-Business AMS RMX-16
Awesome job!
Thank you. Episode 2 coming soon!
Amazing, Greetings from Venezuela...
That’s interesting. I thought those were sampled gogo bells.
I would like to hear your take on the Tina Turner cover of Al Green from 1983, “Let’s Stay Together”. That would be something of a doozy when you think about how involved the sequencing of both the Fairlight and the LinnDrum.
Amazing stuff !
Thanks so much! Episode 2 coming soon.
Awesome!
Incredible
Great first video…keep them coming….
Thank you! New episode this week.
These dissections are great. I think making the (processed) drum sample kits available would be a popular decision. 👍
Great video nick. I was fortunate to have a Linndrum with this excellent eprom set. It sadly got damaged due a burnout. I eventually bought a sequential drumtracks & recaptured that great sound again.
Thank you! I’m sorry to hear about your Linndrum. The Drumtraks is great tho! New episode will be out this week.
@ Many thanks. Looking forward to the new episode 👍
Love it! Great 80's
Thank you! New episode this week.
Cool vid! Can you do one on OMD "If You Leave" drums?
Killed it
Epic!
Love your Video. I have some eproms with some of the Sounds for my Oberheim DX and my SCI Drumtraks, still on the Hunt for some sounds. Cant await to see your next Video. Take care.
@@acidjack thank you so much! The DX is one of my favorites. New episode will be out next week.
Love it.
Great video thank you. Do you know if the triangle EPROM uses any of the same round robin sort of technique like the hi-hats? Might be just the reverb but to me it's got a much nicer sound to it than just a single sample would suggest.
@@NyquistTheorem the triangle is a 4 eprom sound that goes in the hi hat slots.
Awesome video! More more more!! Something I’ve always wondered is how drum machines were recorded in the 80s. It’s so simple now to solo everything and then move it into place.
Thank you! New episode this week.
heck yessir
Great video!!!! Thank you!
Thanks for watching. New episode will be out next week!
More of this please!
@@colnago6501 episode 2 coming next week!
Amazing recreation and great knowledge, I heard there was a sample from a Talking Heads track used on Shout, I wonder what was used and where it is in the song
Interesting. I will have to look into that! New episode will be out this week.
wtf, thanks! really huge content, I signed up instantly!
Liked and subscribed! Great video & almost perfect recreation. I guess the triangle’s pitched down a few semitones (compared to the original) in order to avoid automated false copyright claims? Otherwise damn near identical… 🎉
Thank you so much! New episode will be out this week.
This is so neat!
Thank you! Episode 2 coming soon.
I sampled When the Levee Breaks myself but also Never Let Me Down Again by Depeche Mode is a favorite and I’ve tried to cover it a few times so actually having that confirmed like that is mind blown. Kuz I would just randomly transient slice the LedZep hits in my Electribe being like “this might work for NLMD …” and then kinda just listen to the loop like … No friggin way … kuz the fan sites almost always just list the gear lol
Wow! Did no one really call those kick and snare sounds came from When the Levy Breaks? I mean I never put it together because I never heard them soloed. But, it's kinda something you can't unhear even in context.
Great vid! Instant follow. 👏
Thank you! New episode this week.
Great content. The reproduction is perfect. Congratulations. Any chance you intend to make these samples available? Thanks.
Thank you so much! I may start a patreon that will feature some of the sounds heard on the channel.
great
Geat first video. Nailed it!
@@commodore74 thank you! New episode next week.
@@CVsoundlabs Excellent!
Absolutely loved the video! Bruce Forat and I are friends, great guy. Can you please cover the Oberheim DMX, Linn 9000 and the Linn LM-1?
@@stevenzagony6187 absolutely! Thank you so much.
Would like you to do the " take on me " drums video which was linn drum.
Can you please do "Over my shoulder" and "Invisible Touch"? I always wanted to know what's the stuff behind these rhythms.
Yes. Let’s do this!
New episode this week!
Epic!!! Best damn drum machine EVER!!!
Agreed! New episode will be out next week.
please cover mercy street from Peter Gabriel's So, always have been curious about the bell pattern and what was the machine used?
Brilliant
@@gerrydaly5409 thank you! New episode next week.
nailed it!
Amazing video. Subscribed.
I read that Take on Me also used alternative Linn chips, specially the snare. Do you know anything about that?
Thank you! Take on me uses the stock linndrum snare and there is also one hit of the same snare completely detuned. It also uses a couple sounds from a DX7 rom cartridge. I will be covering take on me in an upcoming episode.
This is great!
Thank you! New episode will be out next week.
Nice one!
Thank you! New episode this week.
The triangle just needs to be transposed 1 step up!
Yeah, like Paolo demonstrated on the amazing Synthmania channel years ago ...
Liked-subscribed.
I didnt knew they use alternative chip for the linndrum , since they also have a Fairlight they could be sample from it with the page R as a drum machine sequencer, but the linndrum was clearly brighter , compare to the muffled sound of the Fairlight II , in fact any Emulator II or Synclavier could do the job at the time , they probably prefer the workflow of those rompler drum machine...
Their Linndrum sold at auction in the past couple of years along with a vast library of alternate eproms.
@CVsoundlabs like custom made tape for mellotron those custom chip eeprom probably cost a fortune back then, i remember a time when even an AKAI S 1000 cost a fortune, but it was more affordable than those drum machine...
The Snare and Bassdrum is clearly from the Emulator. The song uses the whole set of the Digidrums Eproms
I don’t quite understand how it’s from the emulator if it uses digidrums eproms? You’re saying they sampled them into the emulator?