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FreeOK 2015 - Aron Ra : "Biblical" Family Values
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2015
- Aron Ra spoke at the 2015 Oklahoma Freethought Convention on June 20, 2015 in Tulsa Oklahoma.
Aron is an atheist vlogger and activist. His videos focus on biology, with an emphasis on countering creationist claims, and advocating rationalism in science education. He also posts written material on his website LocoLobo. He is the Texas State Director of American Atheists.
Aron is co-host of "The Ra-Men Podcast" with Mark Nebo. www.thera-men.com
I'm new to this atheism thing. I've been one for a month. May I just say it is refreshing to have communities online. Thank you for your work Seth! Also, I find it funny how atheists know the bible better than Christians.
To be honest, I was a devoted cristian and than I started to think, but still didn't dare thinking about beeing an atheist, so to reinforce my faith, I undertook reading the bible, all 66 books, and it was a final nail in the coffin, I realised that I necer believed in that load of bullshit, and I knew, I was an atheist well before I even realised it.
John Digsby SMH
John Digsby Smh
It is imperative that you read all religious texts so that you may become an atheist! The qur'an, the bible and the torah! Only then do you get to understand the utter bullshit and bigotry they ALL preach, with the qur'an being quite a bit more extremist than the rest! Needles to say jews and christians do have quite a few misguided, idiotic and dangerous fanatics in their midst but they really lag behind the muslims! And the silly thing is that the Western world treats them with the utmost respect. For instance: try spelling the qur'an this way, with no capital q and the auto correct function tells you you are misspelling it, something that does not happen for the bible or the torah!!! Talk about suicidal tendencies...
@@aleksandarmaksic5040 my path was just like yours. I decided to read the entire Bible and found out that it's total BS. I read the entire Quran also and found that it's total BS.
In both of those books God is a murderous thug who orders genocide. And many of God's prophets are murderous thugs who order genocide.
Now I think about all of the time in my life that was wasted on religion and the helpful things I could have done with that time to contribute to humanity if I had not wasted that time on religion.
That's the opposite of Pascal's wager. That's what we lose by believing in God.
This man is a light of reason fighting the growing darkness.
@Salvatore Briguglio 👍
The darkness is losing ground to the light 😎
@John Digsby
God is a god of love ?
🤣🤣
God told you to get the Catholic out ? 🙄
So that's a really strange statement coming from you.
A few years ago, tired of living with all the conflicting interpretations of the Bible, conflicting teachings in the church, hypocritical behaviour of the Christians, I decided to live my life lead strictly by conscience and empathy. That was one of the most liberating decisions I have ever made.
From what I have understood since then the people who REALLY need/want religion are the people who lack conscience and empathy. In fact, my wife admitted that she would be a much worse person if it weren't for a religion (she is by far not the easiest person to live with). The moral of the story -- if you have well developed conscience and empathy -- run from religion. Religion is slavery to the good people and rationalisation/escape to the selfish and mentally ill.
Same here. Congratulations. Isn't this guy great?
@John Digsby
Wow.... Amgery loon...
@John Digsby yes pray to some thing or someone, maybe he will answer maybe not.. maybe he is real maybe he isn't...
maybe you should have some backing to your baseless assertions to belive in a higher power that actualy can be tested to be true instead of based on blind faith.
if a God does exist and when I die if I meet with him I shall spit in his face for being a spitefull pitiless GOD that couldn't even communicate his teachings so as to be understood.
instead with have over 3000 recorded Gods and splinters of interpretations into the plenitude. and if I am a fervent beliver but happen to be born into the wrong gods teachings then im dammed to he'll for infinite..
fk that God and any moreon who pushes the indoctrination of young children
I've always felt many religious people were lacking an intrinsic 'moral compass' because they cannot fathom morality without the threat of eternal hell as punishment. They can't fathom that others could have an intrinsic moral compass because they don't have one. The same way liars are often very distrusting, and truthful people are more inclined to trust.
Churches are hotels for the sick and sinners.
Already saw this talk when Aron released it, but SO WHAT??? AronRa is SO on point with this speech that it's WORTH seeing twice!
Kick ass and take tickets, Aron and thank you, Seth!!!
Troubleshooter125 Same here, watching it for the second time, and it's worth it. :)
***** And I may not quit at twice!!! [grin!]
Troubleshooter125 This would be a great sermon in a church. With all the verses references. Having sheeple flipping pages and seeing it with their own eyes.
LongTimeAtheist
There would also be a considerable reduction in the insect population inside such a church ... from all the wide-open mouths! Of course, this is what happens when people actually READ their bible, rather than getting it read TO THEM.
Troubleshooter125 I don't think AronRra's lessons would be understood.by the majority of religious types; their eyes would glaze over at the first unfamiliar concept and stay like that til the talking man stops.
Then suddenly it's all:
"If YOU quotes the Bible an' AYE don't unnerstan' it,
then YOU is OF the DEVIL!
You need to read the Book with the spirit in ya!
I am a gonna pray over you now devil..."
You just can't teach some people anything.
HITCH-SLAP!
Aron, your talks keep getting better and better, sharper and sharper.
Keep up the good work.
IlluminatingAronRa.
What a brilliant presentation. Speaking the truth, as always!
The one liners just kept coming. One of his best yet.
A college-aged young man came out as gay to his father. His father said, "That's Ok son, we'll soon fix that." And he aquired the services of three very expensive call girls for his son. When the heterosexual little brother, all of fourteen, found out, he ran to his father and shouted, "Dad, I think I'm gay!"
mark aaron And he introduced the call girls to My Fair Lady and they used his dad's money to buy pizza for everyone!
Of course, if it had been a daughter, he'd have found a suitable (read; able and willing to abuse her into submission, without being too blatantly obvious about it) husband to marry her off to, and I have a sneaking suspicion her younger sister wouldn't be so eager for her own turn...
@@Siathuan speaking from experience, there's also the likelihood of being sent to a mental facility and a Christian counselor.
@@Siathuan q
This is fantastic speech! Well punctuated with pauses at the right times, with very relevant, informative and interesting points, so it was easy to follow even multitasking.
Thank you Aron
"I thought BJU was where you went for Oral," HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Awesome video. Brilliantly brought forth by Aron Ra. Game, set, match. Biblical family values is an oxymoron. It is laughable. It is an insult.
"God created five races and meant them to stay on separate continents"
Too bad God didn't tell all those conquistadors, eh?
+SmallGreenPlanetoid It is interesting that god only used the one pigment to get the white ,red ,yellow ,brown and black effect. Either that or Victorian society was as clueless as Americans . Now we can tell from genetics and we can tell who came from where until modern times . It doesn't mater how many times some one calls themselves white I wonder if people are understanding that white is the colour of copy paper and you aint that ??
*****
It IS pretty funny that no one is bleach white or ink black.
that made me laugh
Articulate, well reasoned, sourced, The best way to present an argument, A masterclass!
What remarkably enlightened views. I support you Aron. Keep up the good work!
@20:55"We're talking about a time when nobody knew anything about things like.... Soap." I liked that.
+Clint Ronnow Soap, hilarious. Just found copies of it. :)
In about 1974, at Bethany Bible College in Santa Cruz, California, an administrator told the editor of the college newspaper that he couldn't publish a photograph that showed a black male student walking hand in hand with his WHITE girlfriend because "we don't want to promote that". Sunday is still the most segregated day of the week in most Christian churches in America.
Excellent video. I was a student at Bob Jones University during the time that rules were in place for interracial dating. I'm now so ashamed of the fact that I attended that school that I no longer list it on my resume.
"Where would they go? Russia?"
How prophetic. I think a lot of these Christians would very much love life in Russia.
Really? Christians are given the same special privileges that they get here, in Russia?
@@rain3743 um, yeah, more than likely. Russia is a staunchly Christian nation with Christian laws, and the shit xtians love to claim hate here is illegal there. But I imagine once those biblical laws were actually enforced for THEM as well, they wouldn't like it so well.
Awesome speech! Love Aron Ra!
i am addicted to watching atheists programs ...how blind i use to be
I love Arons hick impression 🤣🤣🤣
5:13 I'm a member of lqbtqia and hearing this made me sick. My friends have been treated so badly. It is such a hard thing to hear that people of power can be this sick. Thank you for what you said at 7:26, it is not often understood for some reason
This is another great talk, and Aron Ra is always brilliant! What a power house! Thanks for posting all these Conference videos! Thumbs UP!
Aron ra for president!!!!!!
Aron picked a great closing line for this one.
If I had been as strong of an atheist as I am now when I got married I would've had Aron Ra officiate
Absolutely one of the best videos I've watched from AronRa. Fantastic exploration of abusive laws that used to be in place and why we shouldn't cater to them in our modern-day society.
Thanks for the wonderful message
If you actually READ the Bible, not just have somebody else read it for you, you can tell it was written by some seriously messed up minds. Why anybody still uses it as any kind of reference material for any purpose is beyond me.
I've never been able to wrap my head around the Bible, even at five when I briefly attended Catholic mass. Then I actually tried reading it and I was like what the ever-loving hell? My non-belief was a sore point with my very first girlfriend and it kind of still is twenty-plus years later. She talks about biblical family values with no idea how terrifying they actually are.
Thankfully, it wasn't too long after this was recorded, that the U.S. followed suit with regards to gay marriage.
Sabrina Loizides-Merideth but as usual, the "free" nation of the U.S. lags behind most other industrialized nations. as an American, I am proud we finally passed marriage equality, yet am embarrassed how long it took. and never forget, just as with any right, we have to stay ever vigilant to keep our rights because there are always those who are trying to take them away.
Cymatics
Thankfully we are past that and don't have to follow the bible anymore.
What the idea that god made separate races and put them on different continents to keep them separate means is that (as usual) god failed dismally.
Failure seems to be the only reliable and consistent characteristic that "Gawwd!" possesses...because the old testament is a catalogue of dismal failures, which wraps it up for the omni-god at least.
Brings a year to my eyes 😥
In antiquity, masturbation was done with the left hand (hence the prejudice against the left handed). If you don't generally have the opportunity of washing your hands, you use one hand for eating and the other for tending to bodily needs.
This was so enlightening! Thank you!
My grandma recently told me they're was no marriage before Jesus presided over the first one. I just truly couldn't comprehend that answer...
It's like they never read the Bible.
Amen, preacher!
Wow!!
I’ve only recently discovered Aron.
Unbelievable!
Everytime he says BJU I giggle. I gotta tell my husband about 'oral college'
Very powerful stuff! Thanks for posting!
One of Aaron's most iconic speeches imo. I hope he's remembered for his 'matter of fact' speaking 😂
A very educational talk. Thank you.
Excellent presentation
Brilliant! Thank you.
Hitchens left a big hole in the atheist battle, but I'm so glad to see the seeds he planted are growing bigger and bigger. I don't think I could debate as good as Aron or Matt, I get really freaked out when I talk to religious people most of the time, we don't get that kind of stuff in Europe. Last day, here in the USA, I saw a bumper sticker that said "freedom of religion, not freedom from religion" and the very next day a guy came to talk to me about how the earth was flat and that the proof was in the bible...Where the f**k am I ?! Thank you for being here. Enough with the oppression of idiotic fascist religions !
Magnificent!
Great talk!
Aron ! Such a great engagement. Well done
Amazing as always.
Aron is getting really really good at this. It's like watching a Tyson fight.
Atheist speakers give better messages than preachers. It's because they're more consistent and rational compared those speakers in the church. I always felt sleepy in church. Lol!
Well said 👍
Man oh man, i sure hope that one day there will be spanish subtitles for these videos because i know many people i want to show these to them.
Great!
In my eyes there are only three sins: The sin of hurting and/or killing other human beeings, the hurting and/or killing of animals out of fun, and destroying nature!
This lecture should be attached to the Scotus ruling on same-sex marriage.
Roy Barck I have a better idea: a private screening for the entire court, with attendance mandated for the four dissenters!
Roy Barck If by 'attached' you mean stapled and by 'Scotus ruling on same-sex marriage' you mean 'forehead of Tony Scalia for calling himself a threat to America like the dumb fuckwit he is', then yes, it should be attached to the Scotus ruling on same-sex marriage. With one of these www.toolbarn.com/bostitch-miiifs.html
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You sure staples would work? I sorta lean toward 10-penny nails, myself! [grin!]
Troubleshooter125 I will defer to your more-than-likely superior knowledge about industrial-strength automated fastening equipment on that topic.
One thing to add that Aron Ra alluded to but didn't quite say . . . rape laws in Biblical times, and going forward through until quite recently (and still in some parts of the world today) . . . rape is a property crime against the father or the husband. The woman isn't the victim, her owner is the victim. Likewise, in the child abuse cases cited--children are the property of the father, along with livestock and women. He can do with them as he pleases. It's all about property rights.
Excellent speech, absolutely killed it.
In prehistoric times, there existed Tribal Deities: Each individual tribe, of even extended family, had a patron deity. The Hebrew Scriptures make clear, that the "God of Abraham" was just such one of these tribal deities. In fact he quickly evolves into a national god: The god who has chosen the "People of Israel", therefore "The God of Israel". This is why he goes out of his way to protect, and favor his chosen people; the Israelites. This is the earliest form of "God Belief". It existed all over the ancient world, including in the Roman Empire.
I love the sheep joke! c. 21:00.
Uploaded on this channel for the seven people not already subbed to Aron-Ra.
Would love a transcript of this talk with the references.
I have personally brought up this passage in Leviticus showing how God approves of (and even commands) abortion, and the response I get is "that's Old Testament", as if we are expected to believe that this changes how God feels about things. But it _could_ mean that, if it implies that even Christians recognize that the god of the Old Testament is clearly not the same god described in the New. It's an own goal, an admission even worse than the one you're after.
If Christianity does away with the "Old Testament" there goes their belief in "creation, original sin, alleged prophecies, moses, abraham and the basis for most of their religion. Either they accept their entire book of fables or they are Clowns believing in
Lies. The latter being the case in either choice.
If it were law that a marriage had to be officiated by a person connected to a religion you can always go get married by a Jedi! They are actually a pretty cool, humanist group.
Thanks so much for this Seth.
Who on earth are these "pure white" people, there must be about 3 of these people.
Great stuff. Say, anyone know where I can find those verses in the bible that Aron referred on the topics of marriage practices, women, rape, concubines, etc? can't seem to find the right search terms on google without ending up with a bunch of Christian marriage self-help articles :)) thanks in advance!
Enzo Trajano The rape one is easy
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
“If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies
with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give
to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall
be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his
days."
Exodus 22:16-17
“If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he
shall give the bride price for her and make her his wife. If her father
utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the
bride price for virgins."
The multi-marriages and concubines are more seen in the stories told in the bible rather than passages that lay out rules, so you'll find stories about men who have multiple wives and all their weird circumstances, and no condemnation of the practice.
He is realy grate!
the urge to send this to my mom who raised me on Abeka and BJU curriculum
nice
What did the person say at 10:28?
Aron, awesome speech. Also glad to see that you finally managed to get kill the gremlin that was always messing up your audio recording.
Well done Aron 👍
24:50 - Thing about ok to sell daughter as sex slave...
I'm typing this mid-November so stores full of X-mas stuff.
St. Nicholas later called Santa Claus was given his sainthood for (amongst other miracles) giving gold to a man who couldn't afford Dowry for his daughters so he didn't have to sell them to a whorehouse. Somehow this didn't make it into those cute stop-motion or animated Christmas specials.
Somehow all the atrocities in that silly book of fairy tales are omitted to the children...
I wonder why...
Atheists follow reality knowing,they can't stop future events with past knowledgeable debates
One thing that caught my attention and needs to be corrected: the United States *does not* have any _official_ list of hate groups. Different organizations have their own different lists of "hate groups", but not one of those lists is anything official as applicable across the entirety of the United States, and the United States government does not maintain any kind of list of hate groups.
And on that we should be pleased, because such a list would actually violate the First Amendment and Fifth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States -- the latter because a declaration of someone as a "hate group" on an "official" list has due process implications.
brandishwar Technically, he only said "the nation's list of hate groups." Doesn't mean the government composed the list. I could say "Brandishwar's list of video games", but it does not mean you published the list nor does it mean that it isn't a legitimate list because you didn't. Was there anything about the video that you did like?
GodWorksOut
No he said the "nation's _official_ list of organized hate groups" -- listen at 13:00. Again, there is no official national list.
_Was there anything about the video that you did like?_
And you're asking this why? Pointing out one problem with the lecture means I didn't like _any_ of it?
brandishwar I agree, it's a good thing that the U.S. government is not able to or does not keep an official list of hate groups, because the term is broadly defined. However, we know there are plenty of groups out there that do harm and are technically hate filled towards some people. There are private organizations that keep tabs on them and the FBI and other government bodies might refer to such lists in an investigation or will act on crimes supposed to be committed by them. So in a sense we do have a kind of national list of hate groups.
GodWorksOut Right. I believe the Southern Poverty Law Group is the organization that compiled the "national" list of what it determined was considered hate groups. I would rather agree with their assessment.
RhondaH Yeah, when they listed the FRC as a hate group, I KNEW they were on the right track!
How come I never heard these readings from the bible when I used to go to church?
I never knew such terrible things about these so called religious ppl. I really have so much reverence for your work that i really really love you and your teaching. Mr. Ra you are rain in the desert and i love your eloquent speeches. ❤️💜💙💚💛
I read a story about abrahams wives and when they started their period they had to stay in A Red Tent thats a wonderful story about a woman that has an ass for a husband. God is a back end of an ass.
Oh I loved it back when the US was about to legalise same sex marriage in a couple of states and the religious right was losing its collective mind. I saw plenty of threats to leave the US if this went ahead. One bright spark I saw said on television "If gay marriage becomes legal here, I'm movin' to Canada."
I laughed out loud and then said "Should we tell her now, or just let her find out for herself?"
Oh and that couple in Australia who threatened to get divorced if same sex marriage became legal here? Yeah, well it became legal aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnndddd ... they're still married. (Quelle surprise!!) Because it was going to cost them a fuckton of money to get divorced. So they didn't. But they still claim that marriage is irrelevant now because "gay marriage has ruined it".
Videos been up for 5 years. 1.8k 👍, to the 42 👎. With over 57k views. It's Dec of 2020...
Funny how christian ads are in front of all these videos.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses.
My hell, if Aron were a pastor he would be terrifying. He can instill so much genuine emotion and rage in what he says. When he got to the moses "little ones" bit, I thought he was going to explode.
+hackeritalics Are you in amateur dramatics at all? Seems like it
Did you know Aron is a pokemon.... o.o hahaha! Love your stuff man!!!!
41:01
Regarding 10:54: In hindsight, the cozying up of the "Trump Party" to Russia makes suddenly so much more sense!
And how is this one for "pro-life"; Hosea 13:16 They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.
What about pagan clergy? My parents were married by a Wicca clergy.
Another example of Aaron Ra showing holy shit as either holey shit or wholly shit.
I wonder if Shannon can get annointed to do weddings? Maybe you can do wedding through her
Funny. Six days after the filming of this video, the Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in the US. Love wins! Waiting a week would have changed this speech a little.
Waiting a decade would have changed it more. What is your point? As it changes nothing about the attitudes under discussion.
+CYMATICS Thanks for underlining how religion is a complete failure. All it really propagates is ignorance, arrogance, intolerance, bigotry, racism, misogyny, disrespect, entitlement, superiority, rigteousness and legitimises oppression.
We end up with the likes of you
What is wrong with America?
Multiple relationships.You don't get ethical non-monogamy. We can balance it. it is called comparison along with other adult emotional skills.
Is that Aron wearing a suit and tie?
BlackEpyon no its some other fat guy that always wears black .. :|
Hawks Tinyhouse And Mountain Adventures
It just seems out of character for him... He's always got that string thing that they wear down south...
BlackEpyon bolo tie
Hawks Tinyhouse And Mountain Adventures
Thanks
BlackEpyon bolo or not that is definitelly not aronra....this is evidence people......FOR LIZARD BODY SNATCHING NEPHILIM DEMON DEMIGODS OF GREAT KNOWLEGE AND POWER! RISE UP UA-cam WE MUST SAVE ARONRA!!!
Ok gay marriage is allowed in Finland. We have absolutely no earth quakes what so ever - the rock is bloody solid too. Oh and as a side note we are rising out from the sea at the rate about 7sqmiles (or was it sqkm) a year. But no earth quakes.
Akron Ra should start his own bumper sticker company he will earn millions. Very funny and brilliant.
I have stopped watching a local affiliate here that is located in Joplin, MO. because I heard a clip from the 700 Club that episode that was going to be broadcast the following Sunday where Pat Robertson said that the Joplin tornado was sent by God because of the sin of homosexuality that is allowed to "run rampant" in that city. At one time, Joplin was to allegedly have the second highest homosexual population per capita (SF California being #1....allegedly).
I didn't send an email, didn't send a letter, just stopped watching the channel. Pat Robertson is sort of scary
The division bells and warning sirens going off in their heads, unable to make accommodations for slightest infractions of moral demands they hold to , free expression in these circumstances hardly exist, excepting anger , frustration, this form of madness so pervasive accepted as normal, here
Ray and Kirk must be so happy now that they can marry each other
reverend aron ra destroys the biblical monster!