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Aron Ra: Indoctrination State: Countering Creationism in Texas
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- Aron Ra was raised in a mostly Mormon family, journeying to atheism via an array of religious denominations and spiritualities. Having grown up in an academic environment saturated by creationism, Aron was drawn to secular activism when the religious right gained control of the Texas Board of Education and began to influence curricula on history, health, science and social studies in textbooks used throughout America.
Aron is Texas State Director of American Atheists, author of the Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism UA-cam Series, and an internationally renowned speaker on topics such as evolution, truth, knowledge and belief.
This presentation was delivered at the Center for Inquiry on April 8th 2016.
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Excellent, articulate and often humorous.
All US schools should show Aron's lectures.
They won't if no one pressures them. There's lots of #lobbycracy to0 fight against.
Good luck. The US is only getting worse in terms of indoctrination. And it's definitely not coming from the left wing.
The far right want all talk of slavery and racism removed from the textbooks. Hell, they don't even want native Americans MENTIONED.
He's a loser.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
@@2fast2block
Which of the hundreds of different Gods do you you consider the creator of the Universe ?
@@iainrae6159 don’t listen to that prick he’s just another bible thumper who’s looking for arguments
You have to love Aron and his incredible knowledge and intelligence with the utmost critical thinking and common sense approach to reality
Wow, you and Ra might add up to an IQ of 30.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
The problem is: Which model of reality?
His particular non-theistic worldview?
Or a competing model of reality? Such as the Christian worldview?
Which is the correct system of presuppositions to start with?
Well, thats what Presuppositionalism solves.
How anyone can be a competent dentist and NOT understand human evolution is beyond me!
@Kim Okhee They still understand human evolution. Didn't say they couldn't be creationists. Read with comprehension next time. Btw Macro-evolution is Science. Also btw poisoning the well and ad homs are fallacies.
@Kim Okhee Er... enough micro changes adds up to macro. Duh. And we have observed macro both in the lab and wild. Look up Siberian Silver Fox experiment.
@Kim Okhee Buy saying smack about our President that has nothing to do with evolution is poisoning the well. Correct.
@Kim Okhee No. Macro-evolution is when one species diverges into two or more species. Of course they're still foxes. However, they're still a different species than the parent species. Btw humans are still apes for the same reason.
@Kim Okhee @Kim Okhee Believe it or not, Tangerine Jesus fan, there are thousands of excellent dentists that understand human evolution. Nobody said anything about creationists.
The number one threat to religion is science and the scientific method. Give people the right tools and teach them how to use them correctly and they will free themselves from religious indoctrination.
Science is only a threat to religion if science is a religion itself. Which it isn’t. Stop countering the rationalists’ work with this dumb drivel.
Exactly why religion always attacks science
It's unfortunate that not only was the live audience extremely small, but less than 200,000 people have watched it. The information Aron Ra is sharing here is so important that this video desperately needs to go viral.
I'm from Amsterdam in Holland, 60 years of age and I'm baffled by the level of stupidity some Americans can stoop. In the first 15 minutes orso, Aron says already, that the majority of believers WANT to believe. They can't do without. For me, that says it all and this group is unreachable for any sane argument.
@@smoly37 well then show how sane you claim to be. Please do counter creationism. Show how you'll do all you can to ignore clear evidence.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
So true...NC is only a sliver better than texas....and now it is sliding into the muck rapidly.
@@betzib8021 Ra is even stuck with basic science. 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
How do you figure?
I will never regret my decision to abandon my permanent residence in the US. It's hard to imagine what happens if my children are born and raised in such a religious culture.
You mean the religion of LGBTQ and racial essentialism? Because that’s what they’re getting today.
Europe is even more religious than US. They govenrment makes them pay tithe there.
Not all places in the US are this religious or corrupt.
Wait, you guys think the U.S. favors Christianity? I find this a bit hard to believe that you could genuinely believe that... while ONLY Materialistic theories for origins are allowed to be taught in textbooks (without verification or justification), while scientists who dare to find independently verifiable and peer-reviewed evidence that happens to conflict with the Old Earth Evolutionary model are fired for simply getting it peer-reviewed, etc...
I'm a Swede and I'm shocked by the state of education in your country. I've read a lot about American education so I knew it was bad. But not THIS bad!
Yes it’s embarrassing. Planning to be an exception in a few years. That’s the hope at least.
Yeah, our education is filled with lies that this all came about naturally with NO proof it could.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
@@2fast2block sorry no that’s not what education says. What it does say is what we do know and what we understand and don’t. Yes it talks about how things came about naturally for those things we do know about...because that is scientifically accurate. Religious explanations do not belong in the classroom.
“Creation cannot happen by natural means”
Has this been proven? Are you saying creation in regards to “life” or anything like a star and planet? Or plants and such?
Sorry the 2nd law does _not_ scientifically point to a supernatural creation. You are welcome to see it that way but it is not scientific. What sci fi are people resorting to to explain it otherwise?
Could you tell us what he gets wrong and what is correct about BASIC science?
Again you are welcome to your beliefs but they aren’t the only possible explanation for things. The laws of nature can indeed come from the “birth” of this universe and the constants that are part of it.
@@guyjosephs5654 "What it does say is what we do know and what we understand and don’t."
Actually, we DO understand those laws and only clueless people like you doubt them.
"Has this been proven?"
Yes, I just gave evidence it was and you can't get around it.
"Sorry the 2nd law does not scientifically point to a supernatural creation."
You clearly can't read. Here's what I wrote...The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created.
So the 1LT and 2LT do just what I wrote. Yes, you're that clueless.
Come back again, it's easy crushing you but fun.
@@2fast2block okay-_which_ laws do we understand and how am I “clueless” and what do I doubt?
You have your _interpretation_ of the evidence. Saying “I can’t get around it”...really? I could say the same back to you. Saying that isn’t constructive.
“You clearly can’t read”-again with the condescension? The 2nd law shows that yes energy is spreading out and becoming “useless”. So it was in a different point at the beginnings of the universe....this only shows that it was all in a useful manner so to speak. This _does not_ point to a supernatural creator. All we know is the entropy was low state. Not why or how.
You have your way of viewing things and that’s fine. But what you have not done is show any scientific evidence of your explanation for a creator. You have show us all your interpretation of the data. You haven’t crushed anything.
I think a big part of the denial is due to fear. Fear of one day not existing at all, fear that it's all for nothing, fear that there is no ultimate consequences but mostly fear that it if it is true and you stopped believing that you'll still burn in hell. It's hard to get over that when it's been drilled into you even when everything else you understand about the world, logic and reason is screaming it's not true.
I absolutely agree, but their personal fears are their own. At this point, they've gone too far and their personal fears are no longer excusable. I feel that I should join AronRa in the fight. I'm just allowing my talents go to waste.
If you are right, no one will know.
If you are wrong, you and all other nonbelievers and fake believers, encouraged many people to live to mock God to ensure their trashed eternities.
Therefore, if God created Heaven and Hell, your destination to Hell would be perfectly justified.
CauseAndEffect Your indoctrinated devotion to your demiurge has cost you the light of reason and the spark of imagination, the loss of such things is truly a fate worse than death
Would you like to exist where there are no consequences? I think that's why a lot of people deny God because they dont WANT there to be a God because they have something to hide.
@@ianplunkett8013 You're right. We don't want the Christian God to be real but not for reasons you may think. The Christian God himself is worthy of hell's torment and is the greatest evil dictator to evil walk the earth if he exists. In Deuteronomy 3 and Numbers 31:7-18, God orders the killing and mass destruction of cities. Now you may argue they deserved it. You know who didn't? All the innocent male children God ordered the Israelites to kill. You wanna know what happened to the female children? They were given to the Israelites to be mercilessly raped. God is also extremely petty. Remember when the Israelites complained about the mana? God gave them quail until a mass of them died of it. If you know anything about a death like that it is slow and painful. If God could do that to his children though, I can do it to mine under justification from God himself. If that God is real I would rather burn for eternity than serve the likes of him.
When people tell me they want to believe something with all of their heart, I can tell that they have no fucking clue how the human anatomy works.
If you hear somebody say that, ask them if the brain is responsible for pumping blood.
As a man, I prefer to believe things with all my penis, since that is the alleged organ with which men do most of their thinking.
I prefer believing things with all my spleen. And, occasionally, my testicle.
Is it weird that one of my testicles is bigger than the other two?
I think you missed a crucial part of my question.....
I want to pump blood with all my brain
Between 14-15 minutes in, Aron states that he became an activist for teaching science education in school. It is so sad how we need people like Aron, so sad that we need people to actually advocate for truth. It's ridiculous beyond belief, destructive beyond belief and simply put, sad...
Aaron hates truth.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
@@2fast2block Funny. As an engineer student I'd advise you to go learn basics of science before claiming someone else's ignorance. Firstly science is not complete. Just because it's not complete doesn't mean you can appeal to your skydaddy to fill in the blanks. Secondly, time and space weren't "created" per se. As of scientific understanding is today, the origin of what we call the universe can be traced back to a hot dense state followed by rapid expansion. This expansion follows conservation of energy. Lastly, the basis of science is axiomatic, as all things, meaning it starts at an unfalsifiable basis. All things have to be fundamentally axiomatic. The difference between science and religion is that the axioms science is based upon seem to continously prove utility to us, whereas things religious dogma never seem to, in a consistent way, be able to predict reality.
People like you make me furious. Next time you get a horrible disease, try praying instead of relying on scientifically approved medicine and see where that gets you. You're entire life and every single luxury you enjoy every day of your life is possible because of science.
Go live a feral life on a deserted island and try praying for an iphone, dishwashers, amazing cuisine, modern medicine when you get sick, reliable farming and see how it works out for you.
@@BLITZ0100 " Funny. As an engineer student I'd advise you to go learn basics of science before claiming someone else's ignorance."
Oh, good, let's see what you have to prove me wrong....
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You gave NO science to prove those laws wrong and what they conclude. But since you're just a joke good for laughs, copy and paste the parts that got around the science I gave. Do it.
"Firstly science is not complete."
So you leave out what is not complete on those laws. You can give anything to show why we should doubt them, you just make empty claims.
"Secondly, time and space weren't "created" per se."
Oh, we had all this eternally with no explanation how it was
just there or how it still has usable energy.
You're an embarrassment that is so easy to show you have no idea what you're writing.
@@2fast2block Alright you think you've shown something but actually, you haven't. I honestly think it's a lost cause discussing science with you.
But who knows, maybe my entire education is just a sham and every scientists on earth is in a huge conspiracy to convince people of faulty science. It's probably the devil who's at work.....
@@BLITZ0100 yeah, go run, clueless. It's so common for you brainless people that can't get around BASIC science. Run, Erik, run. See Erick run.
" Funny. As an engineer student I'd advise you to go learn basics of science before claiming someone else's ignorance."
Oh, good, let's see what you have to prove me wrong....
(blank)
You gave NO science to prove those laws wrong and what they conclude. But since you're just a joke good for laughs, copy and paste the parts that got around the science I gave. Do it.
"Firstly science is not complete."
So you leave out what is not complete on those laws. You can give anything to show why we should doubt them, you just make empty claims.
"Secondly, time and space weren't "created" per se."
Oh, we had all this eternally with no explanation how it was
just there or how it still has usable energy.
You're an embarrassment that is so easy to show you have no idea what you're writing.
ARON - the new Christopher Hitchens.
Eventually. At the moment he is alive.
Christopher was unique, but yes, Aron is the same class of heavy-hitter.
IMHO Aron Ra is not nearly as mean as Hitchens was. I'd say that Ra's approach is constructive, not in the sense that he is "building a bridge" between skeptics and the religious groups but he approaches and attacks it in a more analytical and clear-worded way. I like both Hitchens and Ra, but soemthing in Ra's approach to the question "how can we combat the religious loonies" is more digestible.
CH was being deliberately provocative as a stimulus for debate ; if anything, AronRa ought to be even more confrontational than he already is, but hey that's just my opinion.
you are a sick to insult a great man like hitchens this guy is not 1% of the man he was and unlike this loser hitchens did put his life on the line going to north Korea and all the deadly places and he spoke out there this guy is a coward compared to him and also hitchens was smart on countless subjects Aron is good on evolution he is moron on most other topics so stop with the insults
What a brave and stupendously intelligent man.
you are obviously one of the "fools" he is talking about! talking shit about a guy who is smarter than you!
Supply the prof of your claims, or don't make them. You can't faith your way into saying someone has done things that they have not. Attempting to create outrage over mentioning universally negative institutions (KKK, Nazi, etc...) is not going to work without prof of your claims, and any small amount of research will show that you are incorrect in these very libelous claims.
Aronra is the most BADASS person! Look at him! Classy and yet so rebellious. When I grow up, I want to be as clever as him.
make my sandwich an STFU
HellBringer you are a very confused, foul-mouthed and spiteful little child aren't you?
There's a famous german singer called Reinhard Mey. He wrote a song called "Das Narrenschiff" ("The ship of fools" in english). In this song there's a line that goes like this "Der Minister nimmt lächelnd den Pfarrer am Arm, halt du sie dumm, ich halt sie arm" ("The secretary holds hands with the priest, you keep them dumb, i keep them poor").
By the way, the refrain goes like this: "Der Steuermann lügt, der Kapitän ist betrunken, der Maschinist in stumpfe Lethargie versunken, die Mannschaft lauter meineidige Halunken, der Funker zu feig um SOS zu funken, Klabautermann führt das Narrenschiff volle fahrt vorraus! Und Kurs aufs Riff!"
("The helmsmann is lying, the captain is drunk, the machinist is sunken into deep lethargy, the Crew is only perjured scoundrels, the radio operator too cowardly to call SOS, Klabauterman guides the ship of fools full power ahead! And right into the reef!")
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I was waiting for the bit at the end when he says. 'But the good news is'. ...I t didn't happen. What a fucking nightmare.
Oh god yesss it is quite frightening how clueless people in big numbers can be so dangerous
Texas has some of the worst school ratings in the united states
Naturistic materialism is the cause of low school ratings
@@raysalmon6566 While it is not being taught? lmao
@@idrathernot8227
What is not being taught?
@@raysalmon6566 "Naturistic materialism"
@@idrathernot8227
Im sure it is
My ex-best friend married a religious nut. Now he's studying to be a priest and is not speaking to me anymore because I questioned if his god is real and if it's fair to teach that to people.
As for 'gender creationism', I would like to add the following. Aged 4 I had to recite the First of the Seven Advent lessons in our church. I reached the part where God looked at Adam and decided all was good and wanted to provide him with a helpmeet. At that point my memory faded, and I stammered: 'He looked at Adam, and, er, and , er, er ,...... he decided to have another go.' The entire congregation roared with laughter - at me I thought and was deeply embarrassed. Later in life however, I was very impressed with my 4-year old self.
Out of the mouths of babes! If i were religious I would say that you got it spot on!
Margaret Georgiadou the word is help MATE, OMG.
kathy heitchue
I've seen it translated both ways in old English bibles.
Margaret Georgiadou
That is ADORABLE! Definitely admire your gorgeous four year old self. 😊
Remarkable, isn't it? But then again, the god of the bible seems to do that a lot...i.e. wipe the slate, that he created, blank again so he of course it's HE can give it another try...in spite of having seen it to be good in the first place. What a useless cunt this god character is, eh?
Here in the UK things are thankfully not as bad. However, while there has been a reduction in church attendance there is a worrying rise in fundamentalist churches.
Fellow islander i have noticed a few unidentified groups renting public/private buildings to have services where i live. Every Sunday after 10am the choir with drums burst into half hour long worship songs and block our car park
What's sad is, my brother and his family now lives in Texas, and I just know that his son (who is now about 10 years old) is getting all this indoctrination shoved down his throat every damn day. In the schools and at home. My brother used to be a free-thinker like me, but he happened to marry a religious bible-thumping nut-job.
Sigh. My nephew is in a lot of trouble.
RyoHazuki224 No sir- Your nephew is FINE! You are the one that needs help. We are ALL FREE THINKERS! What does that even mean?😂
@@tameracoates398 This whole video explains this. When you are a devout follower of a faith, you MUST interpret the world through the lens of that faith, whatever reality is (creationism, Flat earthers etc). You cannot think outside the bounds of that faith, and so cannot be a free thinker.
BSKE C So give me an example of ways YOUR thinking is different from mine? No let me ask this - What does Christianity teach that you DISAGREE with? This should be interesting...
Hating and seeing LGBT people as “perverted scum” instead of fellow human beings, not taking charge of your life but instead hoping a ‘plan’ guides you through life, masturbation being considered a horrible sin, seeing non-Christians as “evil sinners” instead of fellow human beings, l. Pviewing yourself as the scum of the Earth for the death of someone you weren’t directly responsible for, and telling people they are going to Hell. Christianity has plenty of disagreeable positions. I will stick to Secular Humanism, thank you very much.
His nephew is being indoctrinated instead of deciding his world view for himself, you poor deluded fool.
It's not consensus that makes something true in science, it is facts and repeatability.
Welcome to August 2021 "Worse than even our greatest fears: a two-thirds Religious Right majority on the Supreme Court"
I have a ton of respect for you because you are doing what I have wanted to do since I was 11 years old. I was academically quite smart, especially in math and science. I lack the ability to speak well, because I am not very well read. My experience and street smarts comes from a lot of travelling. I was in Afghanistan in 1970 when I was 20. I watched Americans destroy the country way back then and put the icing on the cake many years later with Biden screwing that wonderful country.
When I was there, I found out there was a synagogue in Kabul, which amazed me. I started asking the people what they knew about Jews and Judaism. None of them had any clue what I was talking about and I did not meet a single religious Muslim. The wife of the head of the postal service wore short skirts with absolutely no backlash. So where did Islam come from in the extreme way that it did? I am not up on that but I do know that before america got their claws into the afghani culture, there was minimal poverty and religion was not an issue. The destruction of the afghani economy by the inflation caused by American money taking advantage of the cheap deals available there. Only the minority doing business with westerners had money and the rest became poor and many left for Russian countries to be able to feed their children in communism. So islam invaded afghanistan as an opportunity to save the afghanis from the western destruction. EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY RUN BY RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENTS SELF DESTRUCT. America systematically destroys cultures and allows bad things to be welcomed with open arms by people desperate to feed their children. America is now being destroyed by religion sneaking in to its dying political system and rampant stupidity and ignorance. The problem is that we hear what's going on and we laugh at how stupid many Americans are. ITS NOT FUNNY.
I like the Lecture, and Aron Ra.
Worthless piece of noise.
Robert Myers you’re just saying that because you can’t refute any of Aron’s points
Robert Myers Hey man you don’t to be so hard on yourself. I’m sure there are others who view your input as more than worthless noise.
always a pleasure watching AronRa
This guy makes me feel like my brain is about the size of a walnut. He reminds me of the movie Quest for Fire, carrying the flame of rational thought, carefully tending and guarding the embers so they can light a fire and serve future generations.
I think that some of those board of education members won their degrees on The Price Is Right.
They came down really low...
at lest the bible is right in one aspect
to believe in god is to be the sheep of god
@@twenty twenty
It's obvious to me you don't know the differece between ''right & wrong'' (no fictional devil required) Not to believe in any god/gods has nothing to do with devils & goats, if I have done wrong to another person, the correct course of action is to apologize and make amends to that person and not blow it all off and hope that some God is going to forgive me and make it all go away. That sort of mentality is what allows people to not treat others in a way that is good. By the way, were you ''indoctrinated'' into your religion? just curious.
Not me, I'm a person.
And you know what happens to sheep - eaten and/or fleeced
@@jandrews6254 Sorry, to me you're talking utter rubbish. There is no God and there is no Devil. These are fairy stories made up by old ladies to frighten little children into being good. To stop them playing naughty games. GROW UP.
@twenty twenty If the one and *only thing* keeping you from going around killing, raping, torturing and abusing people is a book, then that shows there's something *extremely* wrong with you.
I do not help others because a higher authority told me to; I do it because *I* want to!
I lost my faith after studying systems of control, namely societal control, as religion was used as soft power but as the west became more imperial they switched to using education. While studying how power operates for both myself as I'm always looking for a good way to determine what's actually true and what's propaganda as societies are run on shared beliefs most of which are 100% made up like MONEY. Thus when I ran across the Flavian signature after already knowing how many links Christianity had to OTHER stories which pre date even Judaism I saw the SAME signature as what those in power and authority are using currently as power/authority NEVER die out they merely mutate into another form just like how creationism turned into intelligent design and how America has gone about creating the world's greatest empire without Americans knowing as we're against imperialism. Thus capitalism has been used to enslave all the nations in the world and free trade ONLY applies to smaller countries as ALL superpowers had significant time where they protected their own industries to allow them to build up to the pt they could compete. Thus whenever we CAN'T compete we DON'T as competition ONLY drives down quality and causes consolidation of power as you can NEVER have enough money or power when you view the world as everyone is either exploiting or being exploited.
Thus it's FAR more difficult for you to be successful in America then in the Nordic countries as we're big on the stopping ppl from even competing idea as well as the rest of the western world as IF we AREN'T number one, then we attack and stop them like with the 5G competition. As all the BS about our security is ridiculous as they already have access as they laid the oceanic underwater cables and the FBI has spent over ten yrs trying to prove the Chinese control them with NO success. Or really OUR gov wants to spy on THEM, hence apple phones went from being some of the most secure and protected systems to being essentially the world's BEST bugging device along with FB, google, Twitter ALL engaging in spying, selling our data to the US gov and controlling what we think hence we're huge echo chambers as before I could actually study one side of a debate for weeks and change to the other side no problem with google, now I have to do a advanced search otherwise it'll ONLY bring up more of the same no matter how I phrase it. Thus I'm quite sure that many ppl believe that there ARE no other POV's at all as unlike me I KNOW there are, I just need to figure out how to force Google to show me them. Lol
So glad I grew up in the UK where this sort of thing is laughed at. Although the majority of people do not fully understand the mechanisms of evolution, people have more trust in scientists and those that actually know what they are talking about. What is it with most Americans and their mental block to education? I am really trying to figure out how the last few centuries have made such a big difference in otherwise similar cultures such as the USA and UK.
Ra is a great example of a loser.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
It's largely conservative evangelicals that are apposed to higher education outside of Christian doctrine.
17:30 I had no idea that things have gone so bad in the States (or at least some states). Makes me glad that even though I only went trough elementary it was here in Finland where the education system is quite good. Also I'm glad libraries exist so I can educate myself. Won't help me get a job but at least it makes me appreciate proper education.
If you think they were bad 5 months ago, see how bad they are about to become.
@Sir Dong Dinglesworth III what is being described in the video is how elementary has been ruined by religion (it's far more than religion, but that's for a different discussion).
College on the other hand has gone the complete opposite direction, they have changed everything to be the opposite of anything any religion believes even when the "religious beliefs" are basic facts, like biological sex and genetics.
Oh, so Ra the loser is your hero.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
An interesting thought: if God is made of the things we do not know, then they are right to be afraid of understanding; after all, knowing things literally reduces and destroys their God by its own very nature.
Brilliant speech. Thank you Aron.
Yeah, thank the loser Ra.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
I spent approximately a year of my life in the late 1990s in a psychiatric unit.
During this time I met a very diverse and unusual spectrum of individuals, some with some rather peculiar ideas or beliefs. I was born an atheist, and have always been one, and would consider religious beliefs to be on a par with some of the spectacular people I got to know in hospital. I never met Napoleon, but I did meet a person who thought that they had been the Prime Minister of Britain.
If it weren't for the fact that billions of people are literally insane, they'd be in the fucking nut house. Religious people are clinically delusional. It is almost more believable to me that that guy WAS the Prime Minister of Britain than any of this religious nonsense. At least the Prime Minister of Britain is an actual thing.
this is how empires collapse, from within. Help keep critical thinking above everything else
Now, if you clueless beings could ever really think.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
This is great, and I am 6 years too late. I lived very near a biologist/geneticist who was literally ejected from the royal academy of sciences for his prosyletising on intellgent design/creationism.
As a newly accredited post-doctoral biochemist/biophysicist (well versed in molecular genetics and evolutionary theory) I found his rejection of overwhelmingly convincing evidence for an old earth and evolution in favour of religious fervour fascinating. He was a lovely fellow who suffered a substantial but necessary fall from grace.
I dont understand how one can be both a fundamentalist religious pundit and open-minded scientist; they are mutually incompatible.
I admire Aron Ra, Sir Richard Dawkins, and Christopher Hitchens greatly - truthsayers.
States rights isn't fictional. We're still fighting over letting states have things as legal that other states don't.
he is so true ,,its a crying shame this guy knows his shit and you can look up every thing he says PERIOD
Go Aron!
I really REALLY wish your audio was higher 😟 I like to put it so people around me can hear it on my phone so that I can get discussion going hehe
I didn't know that aron was a former mormon, he never seems to talk about it on his channel! I'm really curious about what his childhood was like, I'm an ex mormon too!!!
The belivers who do so many menthal gymnastic to supress the knowledge apear to me like schyzophrenic with theyi magical thinking - belive harder to make it hapens...
Spell much
You projected atheism, not what believers believe and why.
CauseAndEffect no she painted Christians in a pretty accurate light, particularly the hardcore science/reality denier. She most certainly did not project atheism
Christianity really is the most prolific and successful cult in history
Valentine Erindros ...that's because it was built consciously as a scam. Read "Who Wrote the Bible?" by Friedman. Take his bibliography and keep reading. The Trial of Jesus of Nazareth by SGF Brandon is another great first read on the subject of discovering the truth about the history of religion. The truth is often hard to find...but it is always worth seeking.
Made successful by the leaders making it compulsory in the so-called "civilised world."
Not so, there are an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims on this planet, making Islam the most prolific and successful cult in history. The Mormons are my favourite cult however. The single most obvious con-job (perpetrated by a convicted con man) in the history of religion. Gull-uh-bull!
More correctly, the most successful mass delusion.
Yes, religion fits the medical definition of a delusion. A delusion is a persistent false belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary.
If only you knew what is a "cult", and if you knew a tiny fraction of even 1% of the facts related to Christianity, you'd not make yourself sound so simplistic & ignorant.
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Aron, if it's not too onerous, is it possible for you to publish the details of Zak Coplan(?) and his site - or the bibliography of the dishonest text books from Louisiana that you quoted from 45. 40 mins, please?
Yes please post them and lets see them
To those who believe, no explanation is necessary.
To those who do not believe, no explanation is possible.
To those who don't believe...no amount of evidence is possible....they will deny the obvious regardless.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
ah ha "2+2= SQR(-1)" aka "irrational"... i got that joke!!
It's also imaginary.
@@bdf2718, gepisar: The "Mandelbrot's set" of all complex numbers 'c' such that the sequence Z(n+1) = [Z(n)+c] ² remain finite for all n, is of an order of provable complexity beyond the imagination of any person nitwit enough to think that there is anything in biochemistry that is "irreducibly complex" enough to require "superhuman" intelligence. Complex numbers are far less "complex" than organic chemistry.
Aron Ra rocks.
Where are the rocks? Evidently IN his head.
I told a Christian pastor that Jesus is like a placebo pill it only works if your tricked into believing it. And he told me then just take the pill and believe. What kind of thing is that for a pastor to say to an atheist to try to convert them
It was a silly thing to tell you. I would have told you what a joke you are. Ra is a loser like you love to be.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
Ignore too fat to block.
I don't know what it is like in the states but you have to hold a relevant degree in order to teach in the UK. I teach science and have degrees covering evolutionary genetics and palaeontology. I do know that I could work in almost any country in the world except the US, in that case I would have to retrain!!
So you teach science, then counter Creationism.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
Wonderful presentation
Religion has devastating consequences -
"In my freetime I practised singing in the choir of the monastery
church at Lambach, and thus it happened that I was placed in a very favourable
position to be emotionally impressed again and again by the magnificent splendour of
ecclesiastical ceremonial. What could be more natural for me than to look upon the
Abbot as representing the highest human ideal worth striving for."
Mein Kampf - A. Hitler
Everyone lives in certain way and for something therefore everyone got some type of religion.
Some are just more shallow than others.
RaseRmax a reason for living does not equate to a religion, numbnuts. By that logic being a Packers fan is a religion
I am far more into history , archaeology , and evolution than I will ever be in continually countering relgion . In fact I have very little interest in faithful people .....until they overstep their bounds . Once they start censoring facts and imposing unfounded beliefs in schools they have gotten my attention .
I am far more into history , archaeology , and evolution than I will ever be in continually countering relgion . In fact I have very little interest in faithful people .....until they overstep their bounds . Once they start censoring facts and imposing unfounded beliefs in schools they have gotten my attention .
Jesus did not teach unfounded beliefs...
@@raysalmon6566 The fuck he didn't ....he claimed devinity . He was just another cult leader .
@@raysalmon6566 But go ahead .... if you can prove god exists wuthout using circular reasoning and unsubstantiated claims thn by all means .... prove it
@@georgeelmerdenbrough6906 Loser, you're like Ra, you have no reasoning.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
@@2fast2block lol
He’s correct religion shouldn’t mix with government.
Tell that to the rising cult of intersectional social justice
Valentine Erindros and to the Luciferians too! Which of the two would you have running the country? As much as I disagree with Church mixing with government. I still think Evil exists and could rein over good. ‘‘Tis the reason why we are eating and drinking foods and drinks with fetus stem cells in them and if you think I’m crazy investigate for yourself. Last time I’ve reviewed that kind of stuff is called cannibalism. And there are worst things going on in those high places and those people may not believe in the God I believe in but they do worship their evil lord and I’m sure you don’t agree with that either. Just pretend But which one of us would you trust your precious family members life with if given a option? We wrestle not against flesh but again principles against people in high places or it goes something like that.
Jesus Saves you do know that the Luciferians were originally a Christian sect, right? They were an early sect that existed before Catholicism rose to political power in Rome that believed the character of Jesus and Lucifer, the lord of the morning star and bringer of light, were the same person and that the entire passion of Christ happened on the celestial plane not the physical one
Jesus Saves I would rather that no religion had any political power in America, none of them, not even one. And I happen to think the worst of the Abrahamic religions in particular, mostly Christianity and Islam, as someone who never fit into the former and hates the latter with a burning passion that was ignited and bolstered with every terror attack done in the name of Allah
Jesus Saves do you have any evidence at all that the food and drink thing is true? Or is that just another whacked out conspiracy theory?
This is EXCELLENT
Remind me again why America is called developed? I guess it has probably developed in infrastructure, but is severely underdeveloped in critical thinking. Not talking about individuals on tv, but about the vast majority of religious extremists and wishful thinkers. I am from India, and I accept that we too have a lot of such masses but we wouldn't dare call india developed (good infrastructure or not). I think it's the British system of education that we picked up on that didn't give much space for religious idealogies in schools.
I just realized, after reading the definition, that I am a humanist.
At which cfi branch was this talk given?
Briliantly said sir, keep it up. Looking forward to a lot more from you.
long live Christopher Hitchen's Name.
Kudos to AronRa
E-PLURIBUS-UNUM
Incredible.. Since I live in a liberal state I am completely unaware of this shit happening at all. It's like we live in 2 different countries. Thankfully the liberal movement, women and gay rights are ireversibly going forward, together with the atheism movement that's on unprecedanted rise. Sure, there will be resistance and some of the southern states will fight back but like history thought us many times things simply do change. We concquered slavery, we abolished segregation, we recently got a first gay governor. There's that last boundary, a first atheist President although we already most probably had an atheist President but he of course couldn't have said that he was one (Kennedy, Clinton, Obama....)... We are marching on and can't be stopped...
Is there a place where I can read that memo?
In my town of Bakersfield, California, when I was a sophomore in high school about ten years ago, our science teacher showed us a video which tried to show how intelligent design was a good explanation for the origin of life...my ignorant little religious self admired him for it at the time, but looking back, I wish I could've been the parent of one of the kids so I could've written in a nasty complaint. Note: Bakersfield has often been called "the Texas of California"
I, who in Britain in the 1960s admired the country and the state after which the transuranic elements Americium, Berkelium, and Californium, am grievously disappointed that even the LEFT wing of California has a huge poisonous detestation of the only energy source that fossil carbon did not already trounce, when Britain, the USA, and especially France built civilian nuclear power.
You're a loser like Ra.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
GREAT presentation!
I was raised as a fundamental legalistic Christian (SDA) My parents mistake was homeschooling me (No TV) as I passed my moms ability by age 10 to teach me as I have a IQ of 185 and can speed read 500-1200pgs per hr. Thus I was allowed to read anything non fiction. This taught me diversity in thought and that each side's arguments seem to be prove their point, thus I found out that in order to understand ANYTHING I MUST listen to as MANY POV's as possible from as MANY sides as possible since each enhances my understanding, and relays the info in a slightly different way which helps you to be able to both understand AND teach others better rather then parroting OTHER ppl's opinions. As unfortunately religion teaches you to mimic others and to totally glaze over when approached with certain POV's like evolution as I'm definitely been that person even while getting my degree in virology/microbiology, as it was SO ingrained.
Thus MY views slowly evolved lol pun intended, since I began as absolutely 100% believing the earth was 6,000 yrs old, that there was a global flood, that God created man/animals etc etc... Even though my views were challenged from the beginning as most of my friends were NOT SDA but Catholic, non religious or Baptist/Evangelical and my family's views were radical even within SDA itself. Thus there was MANY a night were me and a born Catholic boy would talk ALL night about evolution at the age of 6. Yes I was ALWAYS into debating/challenging others ideas and had NO issues in doing SO, nor had issues with ppl NOT believing as I believed as I just thought they were misinformed and didn't have the evidence I had thus I was always trying to convince them that MY POV was right. NOT to "convert" them just as a scientist, as only ONE can be right and I definitely thought it was me but I was also extremely curious to know what THEY based their beliefs on as I never assumed they were dumb, only missing info.
This curiousity lead to me gradually opening up to other ideas or more accurately NOT dismissing their ideas but allowing space for BOTH up to a point but I must tell you I had MUCH easier time researching the Bible and proving IT to have issues then dealing with evolution as that for me was just evidence that ppl are, well ppl which of course ALSO applied to the theory of evolution. Thus I was just waiting for the theory to prove itself wrong but I definitely still avoiding studying macro evolution as of course I believe in micro evolution since microbes transfer DNA/plasmids and consume any free floating DNA/plasmids hence the reason antibiotics shouldn't be used unless absolutely necessary as they cause fragmentation of cells directly into bloodstream/intercellular space which is then gobbled up by all the nearby microbes hence your immune system uses macrophages which eat the invaded whole and digest them.
Now what actually changed my mind was of course NOT evolution in ANY way as I just didn't believe it had proven itself correct yet (or wrong) though I kept a eye out for new data as my goal is 100% to be as accurate as possible and to believe ONLY truth. This of course doesn't apply directly to evolution as I didn't find it convincing, or other non provable things like "does God exist or the supernational".
What changed my mind was while doing research for a anime I'm creating which deals with issues of the day but with supernatural elements which were based on global spiritual beliefs found in ALL spiritual belief systems and religions. aka I wanted to show that we are NOT that different and that we can LEARN from each other since America especially has massive issues of learning about other anything. Thus we lack basic understanding of each other.
This was from the pov of Asia specifically Japan/China, thus I had to learn about their civilizations as I wanted to promote each society learning from each other and becoming better bc of it as for me more knowledge is always preferable to less no matter how uncomfortable and challenging it might be to my current beliefs thus my beliefs have been evolving for decades.
As I've always been a religion buff even since going to India when I was 14 as this totally changed my world view and means I had LOVE and curiousity for other groups and frankly more disgust towards the hypocrisy in my own group. These horrible treatment of each other in religion is what made me stop going to church when I was quite young much to my parents horror. They tried to force me but when I showed up in my bikini and a towel planning to sunbathe outside they relented bc obviously THAT would super embarassing for them. lol
The more I learned about governance, societies, civilizations and religions the more I started asking questions about the source of religions as the Catholic church was and is going to be the bad guy which for me is easy as I was raised viewing them as NON Christian not that I didn't find ALL religious institutions disgusting in their control and abuse of others already. But this did play into my story, unfortunately for my bf I started asking VERY specific questions (as this all devolved into studying systems of control as this applies across all fields I was researching AND is the most interesting as I'm always looking for ways to weed out bad info and manipulation/control /propaganda) one of these questions was WHY was the gospels written by obviously Roman taught scholars and showed up when Rome was dealing with the Jewish Messianic rebellion none of which are known WHO wrote them. Thus I ran into the Flavian signature, this for me was the final straw as I already viewed the Bible as being VERY flawed as ppl are PEOPLE and I trust in the study of human behavior over most other things especially their motives. But after studying systems of power/control, civilizations for the last 3 YEARS, I saw immediately the SAME signature I'd been seeing across the globe in EVERY power/authority structure for the SAME purpose. As well as being intimately familiar with the degree of overlap from much OLDER religions though I'd treated it as PROOF that God exists NOT proof against as I believed that God was propagating the story of salvation to every ppl OR that they ALL must have know each other thus pointing to Genesis being correct.
Damn Aron, I wanna rock a hair like that too when I get in my 50’s. Lucky for me I’m growing it a year already
America is on the road to theocracy. And it scares the HELL out of me. Pun intended...
@@a_name662 Thank God I live in Europe. Here, a politician ending a speech with "and god bless" can pretty much kiss his career good bye.
We actually had a (conservative) politician that thought too loudly in a speech about pondering considering tentatively trying to add something along the lines of creationism into the curriculum. The next day she "decided to resign from her political positions for personal reasons"...
@@0x777 maybe I should live there. Although l think my country needs me.
I'm hoping to move to the Netherlands before America inevitably becomes a theocracy.
@@sovietbot6708 They hunt you down! I moved avay from a small religious town here in Sveden to another place!
So powerful. This should be aired on television everyday for ten years, to make up for all those damm sunday preachers who where full of cow manure.
Correction you said every kid across America was taught this I’m just gunna say I went to public school in Pennsylvania. I was taught in class about evolution and all these things. we were never taught creationism in fact my most of our science teachers especially the biology teachers were atheists.
Same. I was rather fortunate. I had good science teachers. It was the other teachers that typically believed more often.
Was Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus based on this?
I always think of Headbangers Ball when I say AronRAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Like I said before America was doomed when Christianity came to America
It's simple, say that you believe in a Supreme Being, "yourself". As you have said before, "God can make everything that humans can't make like planets and dinosaurs, but god can't make anything that man makes, like a book, or a box, or a boat, or a building."
Treaty of tripoli article 11 might have to do some reading up
Is there a truth that could steal me away from a god? Surely there is, and the name is not satan, Surely, that name is Science! Backed by, logic and, reason.
I've always had a curiosity for science, even when I was a believer. For me, my disbelief came when I picked up the Bible and began reading it myself.
Fast forward to 2020, and we have a Vice President who's a creationist. Scary
He had to reject a lot of info in his little Indoctrinated brain, don't you think?
And he won't be in a room alone with a woman without his wife who he calls mother
I used to be involved in Good News Club.
If this video could have a star rating it would be ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Dayum, Aron is a speed reader!
this video reminds me of an incident in 6th grade sunday school where i told a kid that adam and eve weren't real, that they were just a story in the bible to explain how sin appeared on the earth. he stared back at me stunned and said, "na ah, of course they're real." that's when i first experienced fundamentalism.
How do you know for certain that the weren't real though?
@@ianplunkett8013 bc snakes don't talk to people, and god doesn't come down from the skies and curse you for eating from the wrong tree. c'mon now.
@@ketchup143 I see so we evolved from an ape or a fish? C'mon now.
@@ianplunkett8013
To assume the conclusion there were ever "first humans" isn't rational.
There's something called genetic diversity, which all animals and creatures need to have their specific species survive.
And inbreeding causes detriment to the genes and leads to degradation due to the bottleneck.
How do you reconcile the incest of the bible? Which started with Adam and Eve then Noah and his family?
Did god suspend the natural order of things?
@@ianplunkett8013
Yours is the argument from ignorance.
It's not like Pokemon.
One creature doesn't morph into something else.
Evolution speaks about groups of specie's changing over time, not individuals.
Language evolved.
Understanding evolved.
Math has evolved.
Technology has evolved.
It comes in increments so small it's hard to see, and takes vast amounts of time to show up.
Unless you study something that has a short lifespan, like a fruitfly.
You shouldn't speak about topics when you have zero understanding of it, it shows in your words.
I almost clapped at the end sitting here in my room
How sweet, another clueless being who can't counter Creationism.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
AronRa is excellent and has such a knowledge base working against the magical thinkers that really no longer think.
A pastor for a local church told me that he considers the bible to be without error, is true and absolutely god's word. He then added that he didn't believe that the earth was created in six days (with god needing to rest on the seventh, even though he's omnipotent)...If you can't believe one story in the bible, how can you believe *ANY* of the stories?
The simple answer (of course) is that you can't....
How did clueless you make it past the first verse about God creating?
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
@@2fast2block I read the entire bible and that's what made me an apistevist, and an atheist...I'm not clueless, I'm considered to be an intellectual by my peers...
Well done Aron Ra!!
It sounds just like some Christian Taliban. I can't believe that it is something like that is possible in a highly developed country as the USA are. In Europe where I live it doesn't get that crazy. Not jet at least
It's a business, not a religion.
Truth is bad for their business.
We need leaders of men. Thank you.
Perhaps god flooded Louisiana for teaching creationism?
too soon!
Cleansing of the earth. Mother nature does this. Very natural phenomenon. Xtians might choose to believe that god intended to "cleanse" the unholy and unworthy.
+Ted M
Like Tony Perkins, who preached numerous times that natural disasters were Gawd's punishment against the wicked?
His house in Louisiana flooded out a few days ago.
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Awesome news. lol
+Ted M
But... rainbows? ;)
'Mark Twain was a confused hack.'
Too bad he isn't around to reply. It would be hilarious.
Excellent
No, rather lame. Go ahead, counter Creationism.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
Alright Aron Ra, answer me this: If there is no god, how do you explain the existence of leprechauns?
Gold
I always wondered how in the hell Louis Gohmert got elected, now I know.
Aron unlike other atheists does in fact believe in the freedom of the individual to believe anything after some form of secular education, however there seems to be so much huff and puff over how The Other raises their children. What freedom does a parent have, and on what basis?
So The Maiden Tale will become reality in USA ?
I wish religious people would watch that whole series.
Religious belief requires Pretzel Logic.
Religious belief requires credulous idiots.
Yes, it's a great album
Atheism requires a meaningless existence. If you really embraced atheism and were a strong atheist you wouldn't care about anything. By the way science is impossible with atheism
lol... "land of the free". Wake up.
I don't live in your shithole of a country ;-)
Pretty much every other first-world country is fundamentally different to yours. Religion no longer plays an important role in our societies. Thankfully.
'Baseless beliefs', lol. You have no idea what you're talking about.
CBA talking to you anymore. Goodbye.
@OriginalTharios funny how you assume that we aren't doing anything.
@OriginalTharios So tell us what you're doing.
As a texan I can agree with him about us. But atheism IS growing. Obviously Texas is huge & there are parts of Texas where atheist are coming out. Although there's a long way to go it's happening. Atheist Texans MUST start causing noise. It has to happen. We haven't been true to our constitution.
I'm fine with you clueless beings making noise; it shows how tiny your brains are. Here's just one of tons of examples...
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
Re: 48:28 But Aron the Constitution of the Confederate States of America WAS based on Judeo-Christian values!
I've heard Christians claim that god help King Leonidas defeat the Persians. 😂
helped*
God.... Why would a god who had a covenant with the Jews help a bunch of slave owning pagans fight off the Persians?
@@austinrutledge7531 That is easy. BECAUSE THE JEWISH GOD did NOT EXIST at that TIME. The SPARTAN Greeks had their own Pantheon of Gods, and so did the Persians Still it was man fighting man.That is Christianity trying to claim an event outside of their timeline.They were a bunch of sheep hearders in those days if the Jews existed at all.
@@bunzeebear2973 The Jewish God would certainly have existed by the time of the Persian Empire, and long before that if Judaism is right that that worship of its God can be dated back to Sumer from whence its cosmology stories came, as the Genesis stories of the creation and founding of the world by the Elohim and B'nei Elohim match the Mesopotamian stories of the same by the Anunnaki and Igigi.
@@smhsophie
"belief in God statistically makes you a worse person." Really smart Mr. Aron the atheist... Haha, let's all laugh at how absurd people are who believe in God when we believe that the universe was created from nothing and that life evolved from primordial ooze over the course of 80 quadrillion years or however many they say it is now. It takes as much faith to believe in the religion of evolution as the origin of life as it does to believe in God--actually more I would say--God's fingerprints are all over the intricate design of the world and life. It's pretty evident that he just harbors a burning hatred for Christians and God.
You left out Santa, the Easter bunny, unicorns, elves, Bigfoot, Nessie.......
Do you think atheists have "a burning hatred" for them too?
@@campfireaddict6417 Is Aron the athiest talking about them in his speech? I don't believe he does...you can tell he hates Christians and God.
@@pimpslapper0330 They too are make-believe. Why would anyone hate something that is make-believe?
You are fixated on that emotion.
The dearest person in your life? If you found out your best friend forever was a non-believer, would you say they hated your god?
If you went to the store for steak but the store was closed, would you hate that steak?
If you hate something that isn't there, you really need to get out more. It's like hating a bully -- seething -- mad -- could chew glass -- and the bully is out playing a great game of softball with friends.
Whose the one the hate is hurting the most?
Aron Ra does not hate Christians anymore than any other atheist does but you sound hateful. You're only hurting yourself with all that hate.
@@campfireaddict6417 Hahaha, ok buddy...whatever you say. Have a good day!
@@campfireaddict6417 "They too are make-believe. Why would anyone hate something that is make-believe?"
Well, loser, tell us how creation really happened without God. You and Ra are such jokes so supply more laughs.
“Religion demands complete conviction, but science advises against that. It demands understanding instead of belief, so it must be based on verifiable evidence; it must explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy; it must withstand continuous critical analysis in peer review; and it must be falsifiable too. If it doesn’t fulfill all these conditions at once, then it isn’t science. If it meets none of them, it could be religion.”
― Aron Ra, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Hey, empty Aron, you don't even know how you got here and how we got science. Then it gets even worse for you, you shallow person, you.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Aron does not know BASIC science. Not only can't we have creation without God, Aron does not know that we also can't have science without God. The laws of nature can only come from a Lawgiver, God.
if the USA was founded by god, wouldn't that be Spanish inquisition god, since Columbus sailed from Spain in the 15th century when that sort of thing was the thing?
Amen
Amon