Why Did The Chargers Leave San Diego?
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The San Diego Chargers were a mainstay of San Diego culture and sports, however they decided to abandon the city that made them NFL legend to become the Los Angeles Chargers we know today, but why did the Chargers leave San Diego?
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@@dannyphan1352 Yes, thank you
gargle me
The Spanos family gotta be one of the worst owners in the league, just sell the team and take them back to SD
for sure
@@FootballLoreOfficialLos Angeles is a Rams and for some reason a Raiders city
Agree. The fact that the city was willing to fork up half of the cost was a good offer, in my opinion. I myself voted for them to stay here even though the terms were crazy just so they stay. The dolphins owner spent around the same amount spanos's relocation fee to renovate hard rock stadium, and it benefited. Spanos was just being greedy and already wanted to leave. He could have spent that relocation money to renovate or build an new stadium. What a shame. Football hasn't been the same in SD when the chargers left...
I think the Chargers belong in Sd but where are they gonna play?
@@mreppen1 I had heard rumblings of proposed upgrades to snapdragon stadium to accommodate an NFL team but not sure on the validity of that
Fact is, the Spanos family never negotiated in good faith and expected San Diegans to stay fans and drive up for games which didn't really happen. San Diego also has a lot of transplants that were never going to vore to build a new stadium for a billionaire. Those of us native San Diegans that grew up fans were devestated by the move. We'd love to have the Chargers back, but DEFINITELY not under Spanos ownership.
absolutely
The Spanos’ were also betting on their fan base growing in LA, Orange, and Riverside Counties, considering 25% of season ticket holders lived in Orange County and Riverside County while they still played in San Diego. I quit watching the NFL after the Chargers left. It’s no longer a blue collar fan’s sport
@stevegutrot2476 bad gamble when you're paying rent in another team's stadium
My man. Couldn’t have said it better myself. I think he wanted the proposition to fail so that he had his excuse to leave for LA. He saw the dollar signs and wasn’t interested in anything else. What he wasn’t counting on was the majority of San Diego Chargers fans turning their backs on the team. Yes, going up to our rival city, renaming the team to Los Angeles and thinking we could continue to support him and his team was incredibly naïve. I was heartbroken when I heard the news, and I vowed I would have nothing to do with a team run by someone who cared so little for more than 50 years of support.
There was a Chargers bar in La Mesa called The Hills. Just about the day after they left, they took all that Chargers stuff down and just made it a regular bar.
Because the Spanos family is greedy. I was a San Diego fan and followed the whole saga from start to finish. It all comes down to greed.
theyre very greedy
Chargers should've never left SD
exactly
💯💯👍👍
No they never should have left LA.
Yes they should have. But they should have went to Las Vegas instead of playing second fiddle in Los Angeles
After the Chargers left my city- I stopped watching. We had a great culture here ( a lot of people from Mexico came to watch them as will).
They will always be the SAN DIEGO CHARGERS to me
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@@cpol4391 after Georgia moved the Rams out of Anaheim to STL. I refused to watch the Rams or NFL for 20 years.
I left being fans of the chargers in 2017 or when they announced they were leaving San Diego. I am born and raised in San Diego. So it hurt. So for me I went to the Chiefs. They betrayed me and so I had to betray them in way. Also as former charger fan. I never disliked the Chiefs when I was San Diego charger fan liked Andy Reid, Travis Kelce and Alex Smith a now retired QB. But the team I hated was Raiders. Sure the Broncos in some ways. You can count on this if the Chargers ever comeback to San Diego. I will 100% comeback as Charger fan. My bad for rambling
@@cookiemonster1787 when the Rams left Anaheim (I have been a Ram fan since 1968) I stopped watching the entire NFL for 20 years. I hear ya.
If you are a multi billionaire living in one of the most popular sections of the country like San Diego and the city has supported you right from the start, why not build your own football stadium. The city has always supported the Chargers, you can rent it out to local sports teams and have concerts there, the Spanos family would be making a profit. San Diego has always been a very popular town with tourists.
Wish the clippers get the same support in SD
The city grew massively in the '90s they would have had the support look at what the Aztecs have for their basketball team and that's college the whole county supports that team from Oceanside to San ysidro from El Centro all the way to mission Beach clippers would have had the same thing if they just built a team that was competitive San Diego folks don't even ask for a perfect team they just want something competitive something that's not going to end up in last place third place would have been fine barely entering into the playoffs we don't demand like LA does
because they werent thinking it through
Supported them through thick and thin,, despite the fact that they didn’t bring us one freaking championship. Spanos had the audacity to hold this city for ransom and play with our emotions. Now he’s a laughing stock of an owner with a team that continues to not perform in a city that doesn’t want them.
Spanos always planned to leave San Diego. A stadium in Downtown knowing full well the debacle of Petco Park in San Diego and the struggles to get it built was always his exit strategy. He purposely chose having a stadium in the hardest location to build because he was planning to exit and wanted to spin the blame on the city. FU Spanos.
100%
BINGO! Nailed it. That was his plan all along. I think San Diego would’ve supported a new stadium in the existing Mission Valley area, but he wanted the downtown bucks and knew that a downtown stadium. The corresponding traffic and infrastructure requirements would be a dealbreaker, and the proposition ultimately failed and gave him an excuse to leave.
Ah Chargers, the LAClippers of the NFL
yep
LAC are making a name for themselves now, with that new state of the art arena.
Literally. The Clippers moved from San Diego too lol
I think the chargers should go back to San Diego and bring the clippers with them
Clips gon clip & bolts gon bolt 😅😅😂😂
If anything the Chargers should’ve moved to Vegas and the Raiders should’ve returned to LA. LA is just not a Chargers town.
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There’s a huge Chargers fan base in Vegas that a lot of people don’t realize. Would have made much more sense financially for that scenario
@@stevegutrot2476 supposedly the reason why I heard the Raiders weren’t given first dibs to be the 2nd team was because 1: Kroenke was afraid the Raiders was gonna sell more tickets than his Rams. 2nd of all I heard city officials of LA/Inglewood weren’t too keen on the Raiders possibly returning because they thought the team was gonna bring violence back to the area on the same levels that existed back in the 80s and 90s.
Look what the Padres have done with their franchise. It’s the hottest ticket in town. And they’re currently slumping but still sell out! Imagine the Chargers in mission valley with a new stadium! Biggest mistake in franchise history
they really messed up
Actually the padres are the hottest team in the league rn
Nah. Not “It’s the hottest ticket in town.” /
Peter Siedler is anti Spanos, he did more for SD than what Dean Spanos could never do. San Diego 1-3 million people living, second largest in California, SD would love their chargers back, without Spanos of course. CBS and all sports bar, rádio still talk about chargers despite them moving, even my family and I still love our chargers to this day.
Yep, I was a huge Chargers fan from Yuma. Yuma loved the Chargers... They moved to the real heart of their most hated rival: Raider Nation. Even though it was just within a couple hours away, to a fan it's like if the Eagles re-located to Dallas -absolutely disgusting. Honestly, I think the Rams are second fiddle there and the Chargers are waaaaaaaay third fiddle. A lot of people forget the dynamics of how it all went down and assume that the city of San Diego was being too cheap to keep them. As you point out, they had a legit solution at the Qualcomm site that was completely reasonable. I think the Spanos family was dead set on going to LA and wanted to try and keep as many San Diego fans as they could because "They tried" -Problem is no one bought their BS.
they could have stayed but chose to leave
What this video got wrong is, the locals would not have been on the hook for the stadium tax. It was on the ballot to hook out of towners on a hotel tax.
Worst part about this is, they blocked LA's most popular team from moving back.
LA is Rams town tho
Wow gouge tourists already paying steep travel prices what a benevolent man and idea
If the Spanos family had a brain, even just half of one, they should have asked for a stadium in 1995 just after their first Superbowl appearance. That was their golden ticket for a new stadium in Downtown and instead they pursued a Charger ticket guarantee asking the city to buy all unsold tickets. That let the Padres swoop in and get a stadium after their world series run in 1998 and at that point the writing was on the wall for the Chargers in San Diego.
yep
For those saying San Diego didn’t want the Chargers at the time. SD never voted the Chargers out of the city. They voted not to pay for a new stadium that Dean Spanos could have paid himself; totally different thing. Spanos didn’t want to pay out of his own pocket so he decided to move the team to LA. Chargers left because of Dean not the city, which is why San Diego hates him.
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If I remember correctly the NFL was also offering him like $500 million to stay in San Diego. So if you add the nearly $700 million he paid to relocate he would have had nearly $1.2 billion to build himself an amazing stadium. The real reason he left though is TV money. He makes a lot more up in LA than he would make in SD.
Chargers powder blue uniforms are awesome though.
i agree
LENGENDARY! From 1960-1965 were the absolute best.
Actually, the Chargers are in good company, having not won a Superbowl, they share that honor with Buffalo and Minnesota.
That's fair, solid franchises
@@FootballLoreOfficial Neither has Cleveland or Detroit.
They did win the 1963 AFL championship and challenged the Bears who won the NFL championship, but George Halas and the Bears refused to play them, they were that good that they scared the Bears.
If Chargers stayed, i might have not been a Padres fan
Good video except that the Rams relocated to St.Louis in 1995 and only returned to LA in 2015
I know that
The Stadium was Jack Murphy they sold him out too
damn
San diego would accept an expansion team or another team that moves. But they no longer want anything to do with the spanos family.
San Diego Seals would go hard
@@FootballLoreOfficialimagine camo night!
I worked for the Chargers for a decade and this is one of the best videos explaining what happened in a brief summary. The majority of San Diego Chargers fans have written off the team since they moved to LA and want nothing to do with them.
its sad they abandoned such a great city
Native San Diegan here, moved in 2007. Followed the Chargers until they left SD. I loved them because they were the San Diego Chargers. The San Diego part is what I cared about. After they left SD I started following my current local team, The Cardinals. Glad I was already used to disappointment.
I'm a Raiders fan and I kind of feel bad for the Chargers. With the Raiders it made sense to leave Oakland, the city itself fallen apart and more people are leaving the city than moving in, and Las Vegas built them a brand new stadium. The Chargers should have stayed in San Diego, they're already an unpopular team, placing them in LA with the Rams, or any team for that matter, just makes them the shadow of said team. LA isn't exactly a Rams city either, the Raiders still have a strong following there from their time in the city. Maybe one day San Diego will get the old stadium up to date and get the Chargers back there.
it made sense for them to stay in SD
I subscribed once I saw how close you are to 1000...I'm climbing that same hill. Good luck!
Good luck!
Unfortunately San Diego media continues to cover the team that left. That team sucks - no Super Bowls, zero recognition or support for past players, no culture and the worst duffus owner in the league. They deserve what they have in LA - hardly any fans, a losing record and being tenants of the Rams.
yep
My former employer was based in LA. They came to the Boston office for a company-wide every year and nobody there cared that the Dodgers were in the WS with the Red Sox or about the Rams playing the Patriots in the SB. It's an awful sports town that only cares about basketball for some inexplicable reason.
thats so werid, id be hyped if any of my teams were in the finals
San Diego wanted to keep San Diego Comic Con-which brings in more visitors and revenue than the Chargers ever did!
could have done both....but Chargers weren't down. You did offer to build a stadium
From what I read, San Diego might be in trouble of losing Comic-Con!
Q: “Why did [fill in the blank team] move to another city?”
A: “Money.” 🤑
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It’s funny cause the chargers still don’t have a fan base in LA😂 I swear every home game the stadium is taken over by the visiting teams fans
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Funny part about that is San Diego State got a brand-new stadium right where QUALCOMM used to be.
Silly chargers
There plan was to show everyone outside of San Diego how bad they had it here but it was all a game. Im 58 and was a chargers fan since I could remember. Going to games when I was a kid and how loud and crowded the stadium was so to play us like we weren’t there for the team is outside of the truth even though we never won a superbowl. Waiting and waiting watching my Dad and Grandfather rooting for our team it was great. They did a lot not to stay here and that’s why I’m not a LA chargers fan. I go for my home team that’s what it’s all about. Taking pride in my City. Im from National City and they didn’t allow us to vote so hopefully most people know the truth. You up and left a place that stood behind you even though we just kept hope because it was disappointment after another most of my grey hairs are from being a Chargers fan but I Loved it. At the time. I moved on like they did but I can respect those who found a way to hold on. Good luck
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The Spanos family had beef with the city and all negotiations fell apart and the hotel tax bill to pay for the stadium didn’t pass. Wish the Chargers were still here in SD.
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Don't forget THE NFL was in on it they said LA was getting two team once the raiders said they going to Vegas they told the chargers LA was open for your teen
Fact is San Diego should have never let their NFL team leave this beautiful city. We are responsible for letting them walk. We may never have another NFL team. Qualcomm Stadium is not even standing. It was not safe for any high school, college, or NFL team to play in. I agree with Chargers Hall of Fame players Ladainian Tomlinson and Dan Fouts after the Chargers left San Diego. Both said, “I am a Chargers fan.” Once again, this city should have found a way to keep their NFL team in our beautiful city. Period! Find a way to make it happen. Now it’s too late. Trying to get rid of a NFL owner is insane. They’re not the problem. Tell the truth. San Diego just didn’t want to put any money toward a stadium. That’s okay. But some city will see their value. Now that city is LA.
State Sponsored socialism is not good.
So LA has two teams that betrayed their city and fanbase
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When the Chargers announced they were moving, that was the final straw for me. I not only stopped watching the Chargers, I stopped watching all NFL. No loyalty for the fans, greed beyond description, exploding prices for tickets, parking and concessions. And still this billionaire club wants corporate welfare to build their stadiums. This on top of all the horrible off-field behavior of a lot of the newer players and entitled douchebags taking a knee during the national anthem. Done!
Spanos would get his ass kicked if he ever comes to San Diego again.
LMAO
The move to LA makes NO sense
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It’s alright people love the padres out here 💛🤎
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City and County could have done a joint bond issue with a lower tourist occupancy tax increase. Ownership of the stadium would have been City and County.
shoulda coulda would
The main reason the chargers are in LA is because the NFL and their owners As well as a rams.do not want the raiders in LA. 🤔🤷♂️😕The chargers went to block the raiders. If not in San Diego, the chargers should have gone to Vegas. Vegas loves the chargers. Billionaire owners should build their own stadiums, not the taxpayers.
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Hey Chargers, come to Utah! We are happy to create Epoch for you and your brand.
Barely a NBA market 😂
@@robertmartinjr.4537 We just bought an NHL and are currently working on bringing the Oakland A's to Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is also gearing up to host another Winter Olympic Games and money is plentiful.
LMAO
Oh.. no.. don't you dare try to say Chargers coming to Utah 🤨😠....R.U. Kidding Me?
Because It's the San Diego Chargers...even they're originally from and currently in Los Angeles... It's San Diego Chargers...All Day.. Every Day.. Period ⚠️😠🤨
@@tyrondavis6727 give it another decade the "San Diego Chargers" will be a distant memory. I'm seeing more people rock other teams jerseys more and more in San Diego County.
Hate the owners, not the team. I am still a fan no matter what city they end up in.
respect it
Moving the Chargers out of San Diego to be the Clippers of the NFL was just... madness. 😵💫
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San Diego got greedy and thought they were bigger than a NFL team. The NFL teams bring billions to a city every year and now San Diego is a nice city but has no NFL team and probably never will get another team unless they finally build a new stadium. Heck I remember when San Diego used to get Super Bowls to go to there city and they wouldn't fit the bill for a new stadium I can't believe it. I can't imagine how much money a Super Bowl brings to a city probably another billion at least. I am sure the Chargers will find a new home eventually but it sure won't be San Diego. This video was produced by the city of San Diego it sounds like to smear the Chargers.
The Chargers blow and so do you, sports championships dont bring money to a city. You don't understand economics beyond basics. Building a stadium isnt good for the city.
Why get so negative calling names when I was just stating the truth NFL teams are BIG money to cities. I live in Arizona for 20 years and we bent over backward to make the Cardinals a new stadium and from that our city has grown into one of the best and biggest cities in the USA.@@FootballLoreOfficial
Watch the “Bolted” podcast. Goes from 1960 to LA part 2. Before people bring the hate.
eat me
@@FootballLoreOfficialmarry me 😛
There was a time when fans of NFL football in San Diego could have voted for a downtown stadium for the Chargers. The team tried for 12 years to get a stadium deal done in San Diego.
By the time they were able to get something on the ballot, it was announced the Rams and the Raiders had the option of also coming to SoCal.
The politicians did not move the needle in San Diego and there were options in Carson where investors were willing to fund the Stadium and the City of Carson wanted NFL football.
However, the Carson Stadium plan was overruled in favor of the Rams SoFi stadium plan. This left the NFL with 2 options:
1. Rams get their stadium with Chargers as the first priority to move in with them
2. Chargers stay in San Diego and the Raiders move in with the Rams
Dean Spanos, owner of the Chargers, had a choice to make.
Do they Stay in San Diego and allow the Rams and Raiders to further eat into their SoCal Market? Could they trust that a new Stadium would be built and they could remain competitive?
Or do they take the low-risk option and move into SoFi? They arent responsible for any construction overruns and only need to pay a relocation fee. They get to reap the benefits as co-owners of SoFi as well.
Between 2010-2015 the Chargers were experiencing blacked out games, financial issues, trouble competing, and the owner Dean Spanos was labeled a "broke billionaire".
He didn't have the credit or investors to fully finance a stadium in San Diego on his own. So he asked the city for help.
His last ditch effort was to try and ask the City of San Diego to build a stadium in Downtown. One that would allow them to generate revenue to remain competitive in the NFL regardless of the Raiders and Rams in SoCal. That, and to fill seats.
The problem is, local San Diego groups wanted their own Stadium. They wanted their own version of a Downtown Stadium and the Mayor rushed a Mission Valley proposal without consulting with the team.
So there were 3 ballot options to choose from. The Chargers needed 65% of votes for their ballot option and only got 45% of support.
Had those 2 other ballot options not been on the table, they may have gotten a lot closer to the number they needed which would have possibly swayed Dean Spanos to stay.
Dean is known as cheap, but one could say Risk Averse. If he had gotten say 60% that might have been enough to convince him that a stadium deal in San Diego could get done if he doesn't leave.
But allowing two teams into your market so that there's 4 California teams and 3 of them are in SoCal, the risk seemed to high.
I'm convinced that's why they ended up moving the team.
Why should the city pay for a worthless stadium?
@@FootballLoreOfficial To be clear, having an NFL team in your city is a luxury. It's the #1 national sport in America and is growing year over year. If you want your city to become a destination city, it's the best marketing tool to bring in tourism.
As a Stadium, what you do with it, is largely dependent on the management. In San Diego, the Gaslamp district was not a destination until after the Petco Park stadium was built which was built in the early 2000s. Fast forward 20 years, real estate investors had incentives to build around Petco and Gaslamp is now a top 5 tourist destination in America. Petco Park also brings in 100's of millions of dollars from non-related MLB events a year.
There were people at the time, like you, who called the project worthless and voted against it.
The proposed Chargers downtown stadium would have revitalized the East Village in downtown, opposite of Gaslamp. The goal was to create a sports district. The potential there was the same. Besides that, the Chargers plan was to have a Stadium + Convention center. Something that the city STILL desperately needs for hosting Comic-Con 7 freakin years later.
You might cite studies that show "overall Stadiums do not provide economic value", but that's largely dependent on where the city is located. San Diego has proven the contrary. If you build it, they will come.
its not a destination, if you can find ANY proof that having an NFL team actually boosts revenue for a city I'm all ears. It does not. Just saying "oh if they built in Gaslamp it would work" isn't proof, it conjecture with no evidence. @@zeric_
@@FootballLoreOfficial If you read what I wrote with an open-mind you would have interpreted this: Economic success is dependent on the city the NFL team lands in.
A stadium alone does not bring economic success or boosts revenue. The location, leadership, investments, and management is what does.
San Diego was a perfect place for a Downtown Stadium because its located in a year-around climate next to the ocean. The real-estate investments that played out over 20 years after Petco was built is what made Gaslamp a national tourist destination.
Is the 100s of millions of dollars that are being taxed generating revenue to cover the Stadium expense? Maybe somewhat.
Has the development of downtown, largely due to the stadium, generating revenue for the city? Absolutely. San Diego is making way more money now. Downtown is dense af with more residents, businesses, and commercial investments.
They are not generating hundreds of millions in tax revenue from that stadium alone, the city has to maintain the roads, the power infrastructure, police prescence, and everything else that goes into it being there. The owner of the team, is the one making millions. Even with the California tax rate being as high as it is, there is no way the city recoups the cost off tax revenue. This has been proven in Las Vegas with Allegiant recently. If Billionaires want to build their own stadium be my guest, but trying to blackmail the public into building your revenue generating assets is silly. As you described it, Petco was an investment and while it was 60% funded by the public it only cost 205 million. Compare that shelling out a billion for an NFL stadium and its nuts. You just keep saying "Yes it does" but providing no proof beyond just going "yeah it does"
New owners and returning to SD may bring the Chargers back to life. Takes the Grace of God to return it to full power. I wish victory by far!
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What I find ironic is how even though the Rams are clearly the more popular team in LA, their color choices with the shades of blue and yellow are hideous compared to the Chargers. The Chargers have probably the nicest looking uniforms in the whole league imo and their rebrand worked while the Rams is a joke.
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The actual meaning of the NFL No Fan Loyality, how many fans has the league broken their hearts by allowing their teams to leave their cities. Look at the Raiders and the Rams, how many times did they move, it felt like their Ex's were taking them back and kept leaving, Only way the Chargers would be welcome back if the Spano's were not the owners. But we've moved on now, SDSU got a new stadium, got the San Diego Legion, San Diego Wave and new MLS team San Diego FC.
Im glad san diego bounced back
Spanos peeps paid 645m to the NFL for a relocation fee. I believe that amount was more than what it would have costed them to stay in SD with a new stadium.
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People in SD and outside even love to act like it was just Spanos saying “I wanna leave”.
Don’t get me wrong he’s an awful owner but leaving SD was at most only 50% his fault.
The old stadium was ass, built in the 60s, and should’ve been replaced with a new one a decade and a half prior to 2017. They built Petco instead
There was a proposal for a new stadium that where the only money coming from the city was a NEW Hotel Tax that only impacted tourists pockets. It was voted down bc they didn’t like the location.
So when Spanos didn’t agree to pay for a stadium bc he didn’t like the old location I can’t exactly blame him bc the city had already done the exact same thing bc they didn’t like it in downtown 🤷♂️
The city is to blame for why the Chargers aren’t playing in downtown.
Spanos is to blame for why the Chargers aren’t playing at the old location.
But you cannot single out either and say it’s the reason the Chargers aren’t in San Diego
To me, here is what I think.
Look at the attendance numbers of the Padres during the Seidler era currently, especially this year! Off the charts!
When San Diego State made it to the Final Four, I saw how passionate the city was!
The Chargers are a San Diego team!
I hate that money is taking over sports the way it is, it sucks!
The Chargers should be in San Diego, but obviously without the Spanos family, that's a guarantee.
I think having Justin Herbert, my fellow hometown guy, and Jim Harbaugh, a former SD Charger, in San Diego would be an absolute fairy tale of a scenario to have, considering the ties!
Unfortunately, The Bolt will likely all but eliminate any chance of a Chargers relocation back to San Diego.
It is clear that LA is a Raiders town, then Rams town, then 49ers town, then Chargers town, but also there are like six or seven other teams that probably have bigger fanbases in the LA metro area than the Chargers, that's what's sad.
I LOVE THE CHARGERS! I dislike the Spanos family with a passion and the Chargers will always be a San Diego team to me!
By the way, I have been a Chargers fan since the day I was born, thanks to my dad!
Herbert coming to us was just icing on the cake for me as a lifelong Ducks sports fan!
I wish the chargers would have never left
Since Stan Kroenke owns the Rams and SoFi stadium, I can foresee that he may charge the Spanos more rather than what they are paying now.
I bet so
$1Dollar a year for rent for SoFi
As a Rams fan, I call the Chargers the other L.A. team and they will continue to be as long as they are in L.A. or if you want call the Chargers second rate
Yes, I feel sorry for the Rams too
@@6370WIN don’t feel sorry for the Rams. The Rams have done what the Chargers haven’t and that is win the Super Bowl.
@daleburrer1546 😅🤣😂
I don't think you get it. I feel sorry for the Patriots most of all. It's okay, they will always have Greatest Show On Turf 😅🤣😂
@@6370WIN 😂😂😂
LA is still a Raider town
I hope San Diego never allows a relocation team. We know what it's like to lose a team. Why would we want to take a team from another city? That is unless it's the Chargers... LA roots for the Raiders they do not need their rival team in town.
San Diego deserve it
The chargers left because they have a greedy damn owner. He could’ve paid for our stadium in San Diego, but he chose not to fuck the Spanos family
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Ladainian Tomlinson and jr seau where the only chargers I miss
Second best team in LA?? They’re more like the FOURTH best, considering that LA has a ton of Raiders and Niners fans as well.
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They originally comes from LA!
Yes, the Chargers played their first season (1960) in LA- you know your history.
for one year bozo
@@FootballLoreOfficial you’re a bitter ex! Let go already
@@MrJojowalks How about you eat poop
If you live in a city for 60+ years you wouldn’t call that your home?
They abandoned the city? The city that refused to replace their stadium which was 46 years old. If San Diego had built for the Chargers, what they built for the Padres. They would still be the San Diego Chargers!
Yes lets spend tax payer money on stadiums
@@FootballLoreOfficial like they did for the Padres?
Yes Petco park was one sixth the cost, and the city only paid for 50% of it. So if the city only wants to put up 200 million for it? Be my guest. That wasn't the deal was it? It was either build a billion dollar stadium or we leave. I also think petco park was stupid and tax payers shouldn't have paid for that either. Public money doesn't belong in private real estate man
@@FootballLoreOfficial I don't remember the Chargers asking for a 2.5 billion dollar stadium
They wanted a 4% increase on the hotel tax to go to funding (which is about 350 million a year), and $650 million up front to begin construction. @@markbeckens
Steve Kroenke??? Did she mean "Stan"... 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ and the Charger werent purposely trying to be "Rams Light", the Rams changed their logo to look more like the Chargers...
chargers second most popular team in LA whether its stan or steve, cry about it
@@FootballLoreOfficial awwww thats cute... Somebody putting out informational videos(which I actually find interesting) cant take the fact that they had a mistake pointed out... Thats adorable...
L.A only cares about 2 sports teams. The Lakers and the Dodgers.
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The Rams have played in LA with the exception of 1995-2015
The Rams first played in Cleveland
still a 20 year period
Pretty sure this woman is correct about almost everything here
thanks
San Diego can be an NFL expansion team going forward
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@@FootballLoreOfficial 💯 with a better fresh owner
It seems this article is very bias and left out several factors, including even though it touched that the chargers initially started in Los Angeles in the first place along with the Rams. Additionally, they’ve always been second fiddle or didn’t mention. that Oakland used to be in Los Angeles as well so they were third fiddle at one point my point. A lot of details left out of this article. It was one way one-sided. I have nothing against San Diego. I even lived there for three years in the 90s. I just like to see a non-biased, detailed article one other factor LA market is gigantic hence LA Rams LA Chargers LA Raiders, the Angels, the Dodgers, the clippers and the Lakers. There’s enough money and fans to go around.
ya i aint reading all that
The chargers should have moved to Las Vegas and the raiders should have moved to Los Angeles instead.
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San Diego played a big part in chargers leaving.
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How is he wrong the city got nothing done for them what so ever the fans fought for them to stay the best they could but the city itself seemed like they didn’t even try for the chargers cmon now they could have got it done if they weren’t being tight
The city was going to give them the land and mission valley he wanted a bayfront stadium
The lie detector test determined that was a lie
You act as if nobody's going to Chargers' games, which isn't the case. They are getting good attendance to their games. And you're criticising the very popular powder blue uni's?
They will be moving out of LA by 2035, best of luck Harbaugh glazer
Note to self: "do not memtion the name spanos while in the san diego, ca metro, unless i am prepared for the consequences." 👍👍
Still Charger Fan
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CBS stated this mess by resign ing the TV rights for Charger's games instead of giving us two games on this channel not been in San Diego for seven years and they still screwing San Diego CBS there's 31 NFL team s and only get Charger's games no matter what well know what not watching again this upcoming NFL season
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So San Diego continues to get Charger games on television?
Not true, it was EVERYONE. I blame the voters especially, because they voted their NFL team away.
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@@FootballLoreOfficial look up the podcast, “BOLTED”. It’s well documented, plus I was born & raised in San Diego, I think I know what I’m talking about. Our mayors, city councils, and hoteliers didn’t help at all, but keep on blaming the owners instead. 🙄
Neither Stan Kroenke or Spanos family are palatable owners. Stan Kroenke won't live long enough to demand a new stadium in LA once SoFi gets old. That's good.
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Plus SoFi is going to be around for another 60 years and i don't think Josh Kroenke want to move the team and make follow owners angry
@@coreylevine8095 I'm curious what the Rams will do once SoFi becomes obsolete? Will they build in the same place and have a similar stadium? Build somewhere else in LA? Or build a new type of stadium in Hollywood that we can hardly even comprehend?
@@maxkeebs4425 Most likely in 60 years find another place in LA County to build a Stadium or move to San Bernardino
@@coreylevine8095 not just build where they are? It would be quite easy and that's what half of the league does anyways.
Like a fan... that team always be st diego chargers for me.
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They should have never left LA. They would have been more popular.
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@@FootballLoreOfficial yeah.
one of the best teams ever
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@@pony-j6k based on what? Because it certainly isn’t championships.
@@SanDeezyBreezy61986 vibes
Chargers gonna Charger.
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Dean spanos is a toxic ass owner & he needs to sell the team
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Dodgers, Lakers, Rams, Clippers, USC, UCLA, Kings , Angel's a few high school teams then the Chargers. That's the order of things in LA for fans. Just move back to SD. I see the Chargers moving to London in the future or back to SD
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Coach Staley of the Chargers was the absolute worst coach in Chargers history.
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Worse than Kevin Gilbride?
@pavelromanenko3718 Coach Staley lost games strictly on Analytics. As many as 3 games per season. Analytics has its advantages and disadvantages. Staley went overboard with it.
@@patrickhenry2845 I see. In hindsight Gilbride had to contend with having one of the worst, if not the worst, draft bust in Ryan Leaf. Staley, on the other hand, has Herbert who has been great despite lacking an offensive line.
@pavelromanenko3718 Coach Harbaugh will do much better. I guarantee he will not lose games on Analytics. Staley should never have had the opportunity to even coach another year. Owner Spanos trusted him, too long. The Chargers will win 10 games this upcoming season and will make the playoffs. The Chiefs will still win the division, though.
Greed is why they left.
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So you don’t understand either but made a video explaining.. charges moved to LA, because that gave them a higher value for their franchise. It was all about greed. That’s why Dean Spanos is hated by San Diego. 😊
they didn't gain value comparatively to other relocating teams. Rams have sextupled in value, so have the Raiders, Chargers haven't. I know you're probably too stupid to understand valuations overtime compared to other investments.
Yes, because you are so much more fucking knowledgable then most of the people you pander to and supposedly make more money in a month they we do in a year even though you have no fucking clue what 99.9% of YT subscribers actually do make for a living even though your arrogant, elitist ass always insists you do.
For all you know, 30-40% of the YT subscribers you talk down when they dare criticize you might make more money then you do not that they lord these facts over everyone who points out a rebuttal and then you give childish, immature responses like calling out their reading comprehension skills or math retention or accounting skills as proof their somehow complete idiots.
This comment section does not pass the vibe check f*ck. I love the video I’m still heartbroken as a San Diegan and I’m not nor have ever been a chargers fan
LMAO bro I didn't know the can of worms I was opening. I am from the East Coast but everyone knows the Chargers belong in San Diego
It was called jack Murphy before
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San Diego politicians are to blame
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Not really
They were founded in LA. They belong in LA.
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Steve Kronke? Come on bro
Jal2550? Come on bro
his name is STAN Kronke. Do your research. Kills your credibility @@FootballLoreOfficial
@@jal2550 Because I confused steve with stan while reading a script? eat me
Its like saying Jacob Jordan when talking about Michael and the Bulls. Your credibility is forever in the toilet. @@FootballLoreOfficial
is it tho? Mixing up the name of the most famous athlete of all time is the same thing as not knowing the name of a franchise owner? You're a moron LOL
They left like big babies cus we the taxpayers didn’t wanna pay their new stadium meanwhile they were doing bad on the field. The end.
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Spanos curse for chargers
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Why? Dean Spanos. That’s why.
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The Chargers nfl team should have moved out of San Diego, CA.
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Is san Diego still forced to air the chargers
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In the words of Urinatingtree, "FU SPANOS!"
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LA will ALWAYS be a raiders town…NFL FUCKED UP…should have let the raiders build there and let the chargers go to Vegas…rams stay in st Lou
its Rams town now
Where the Raiders going to get the money to Build their Staduim
@@coreylevine8095 they used Nevada tax payers
Greed! Just like what happened in st louis and Oakland. The nfl doesn't care about its fans
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Tell me you’re biased without telling me you’re biased.
I am not even from California and you're dumb
Obviously. I live in San Diego. The Spanos family were definitely jerks about the situation. But that's about the only thing you got right
Even when the Chargers were in San Diego playing at Qualcomm, the charger fans never showed up. They aint loyal there. Because when they moved they stopped being fans. Thats not loyal at all. San diego should get over the chargers and go look for another team to go there. The LOS ANGELES CHARGERS are back home where they started in LA. And they will win their first super bowl in LA, something that never happened in SD
Did you ever go to a game in SD?
@@turtle19dad I've been to alot. I grew up in socal. I parked at the mall and took the trolley to the stadium smart guy.. do u remember how raiders fans were more than double the charger fans? And how small Qualcomm stadium was and charger fans couldn't even fill the smallest stadium in the nfl.. that stadium was old and a pos. Yall nggas mad they left lol foh!
You do realize your stadium is empty in LA too right?
@@FootballLoreOfficialEmpty? did you know the Chargers ranked 14th in the NFL for fan attendance?
imagine being the 2nd biggest market in the nation and bragging about Middle of the league attendance LOL. Ya man!!! you guys in LA should have similar attendance to Cleveland!! Rams are top 10 in the same city and stadium buster @@12eBeL
I will ALWAYS HATE Dean Spanus* !!! He’s everything wrong with sports.
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