Orcs and Gith Pros: a bunch of unique bonuses and abilities that are super useful Cons: look ugly as shit Dragonborn Cons: no racial bonuses except a worthless breath attack and common resistance based on color Pros: look cool a heck
Another con: stupid looking hats. The only one that looks relatively cool is the weave hood but your db would have to be bald. Also there is a mod that makes dragonbreath a bonus action, and oh do they become better after that.
The most interesting racial feature for Githyanki is the sheer amount of race-specific dialogue they get. They get 3x more unique dialogue options than Drow, who have the second most.
Even if they made the dragon breath per turn instead of short rest then people could build around it, even though the breath isn’t particularly good. I think they should get something at least
@@mralex8444 As far as I know, the race was included in the 5e version of DND and the number of dragonborn on the sword coast is very low. That's why I think it doesn't get enough reaction from NPCs. I don't think it was added to the game just for Durge, but it's definitely not valued enough
They should officialy add Gem dragonborns and have GEM dragon ancestries for Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer. But for now HERES the solution: THESE mods from NEXUS, truly bring justice to Dragonborns. An absolute must. HOPE the awesome modeers behind these transfer them to the future built in Larian mod tools for PC and console! Im at the moment enjoy being a Topaz dragonborn Sorcerer with Amethyst dragon ancestry Draconic Bloodline. There are a few missings, NO purple Draconic Bloodline markings, use Red 3, its the closest Also Topaz for me are ORANGE, not yellow as set ( yes Im aware topaz as a gemstone come in other colors than orange, but its mostly that ) Load order!!! The highest number is added first, are lowest Above/ ahead Below/ after 0-9 Moonlilias dice skins ( just for some nice lemental flair to your dices ) 10: Descendants of Gem dragons 11: Saers Horn 12: BB26 DragonbornSubraceExpansion ( Fizban compatible ) 13: Fizbans Treasury of Dragons 14: Dragonborn Unleashed = Darkvision+Resilience+Savagery 15: Addon: Bonus Breath Weapon 16: Addon: Short Rest replenishment 17: Extra Attack compability + Improved UI+ Improved UI Assets legg nederst uansett All these mods should NOT hinder Steam achievements!
One thing as well you missed out on with half-orcs is they have a free proficiency in intimidation as well and NPCs will also comment on your appearance being as such which makes it fun for melee classes if you intend to be a big bruiser, and free intimidation if you run a half-orc charisma class that can mix in melee is very valuable unless you're playing Durge.
@@jadenquest9544Command: Drop as a cleric, then have someone in the party pick it up before he retrieves it on his turn. It'll require a lot of save scumming because the NPC has insane statblocks for early act 1 but rolling the sub 15% chance on a quicksave doesn't take too long for a free legendary greatsword for the entire playthrough.
An under valued aspect of Elf is the proficiency in Perception, and of Wood Elf in Perception and Stealth. You’re getting one or two of the three thieving skill proficiencies you want most from Rogue (Perception, Sleight of Hand, Stealth.) Githyanki are just amazing. They basically always have whatever skills you want for them independent of their class, and free enhanced leap an misty step and great from the start to end of your play through. I want to love Duergar, because invisibility at will is insane if you’re playing an assassin or archer. But by the time it comes in at level 5, I feel like I already have the invisibility spell or potions when I need them. Fun list.
@@JasonDunna Tbh that mostly matters if you play Wizard / Sorcerer / EB Lock, nearly every other build either gets the shield proficiency from their class / dip or doesn't use it (monks, dual wield melee, 2h melee). For example my favourite build is archer bard and while this one gets the proficiency late from a fighter or ranger dip, I'd rather have racial longbows (titanstring) than racial shield, so I can use gloves of dex rather than being forced into gloves of archery or using a different build. Actually Storm Sorcerer gets shield proficiency from Tempest Cleric dip. So that's another one that doesn't need it. I realized Larian was very smart making Wyll and Gale human - the only classes on the roster that benefit highly from the extra shield proficiency. On the other hand, classes that don't utilize bonus action well can benefit from drow's hand crossbow proficiency in off-hand.
Duergar has a co-op file character is broken. Since their invisibility does 't have a timer you can just walk around in stealth without needing prior knowledge of the encounters. Obviously having invisibility as a spell or potions are options, but having reliable and resource free out of combat stealth to run around the map for free is always valuable. You won't need to worry about popping potions on the duergar in an honour mode file, saving them for the rest of the party. If anything, it's just saving you resources.
Its worth mentioning that the githyanki also have significantly more unique dialogue choices (600+), the drow were in the 200's, duergar a little less than that and every other race gets significantly less unique dialogue. Even if roleplaying doesn't concern you, the githyanki have quite a few Items that have effects if you're githyanki (or disguised as one)
Drow do have a ton of unique dialogue options, but what's shocking is Githyanki have over three times as many. Definitely going to Gith it up next run to see what that's all about.
My favorite race is Wood Half-Elf. It combines powerful traits with a pleasant appearance. If you don't have a high charisma score as a party face and also don't have access to the Friends spell, High Elf or High Half-Elf can be very helpful for passing conversation checks. Overall I also think Githyanki are the best due to their versatility. I really want to try Duergar in my next playthrough.
Yeah the cantrip for friends is pretty nice! Minor illusion and mage hand are two other solid choices. Githyanki have so many benefits it’s incredible. You won’t regret a duergar run!
As I said in the class tier list, Duergar is probably the best choice for solo honour mode especially when paired up with Druid as a class. Simply because invisible owlbear that can spam Crushing Flight without getting detected by various bosses.
Duergar Invisibility needs to be in it's own tier of S+ imo I swear that playing a Duergar Gloomstalker Assassin is one of the most overtly busted combos possible and absolutely trivializes the game. I legitimately went the entirety of Act 2 until Myrkul without ever long resting or taking a single point of damage. I legitimately have no words. People talk about Dark Urge's mantle, but this ability is that piece of equipment that's already S tier but cranked up to the max. I have never see the AI so utterly powerless than against this build right there It struggles a lot against Myrkul however
Half-orc is my favorite race in bg3 and in tabletop.. you may look ugly as sin but you get a lot of great bonuses and you get to role-play as an outcast literally no matter where your adventure takes you.
When you get halsin's pipe you can not do anything with it, the makers of the game overlooked that. I have wanted Halsin to smoke his pipe while in his inventory. It whould amazing for him to smoke his pipe in a romance sence.
Oh man that would be cool, hopefully modders bring that in! The cat milk bowl in last light inn also doesn’t have any unique interaction with the cat, and there’s something related to Astarion as well
As someone who does low man runs (2 character party is my favourite way to play), Gnome is one of my favourite races simply because of Gnome cunning. Having permanent advantage on mind blasts and hold person is a literal life saver. I still get vietnam flashbacks from having both my characters getting hold person'd on the same turn and losing my 2 man honour run in act 3. For all short races, I highly recommend a 1 level dip into storm sorcerer for the flight ability. Helps negate their movement speed penalty. I'll list some other race and class considerations for anyone interested. Wood Elf/Light Cleric. A match made in heaven. You get shortsword proficiency which light Clerics lack. This allows you to dump STR and put points in DEX instead which is a more important stat overall (better initiative, AC, and DEX saves). The extra movement speed can be weaponized with Spirit Guardians, and you can dual wield short swords to weaponize your bonus action. Zariel Tiefling/Bard, Paladin, Warlock, Sorcerer. The big benefit here is having a high CHA class with Thaumaturgy. Bard in particular is insane with this cantrip given they can get expertise in Intimidation and Performance. Even extremely high 25/30 DC skill checks are a complete joke with Thaumaturgy Bards. You can gaslight your way through almost all act 2 boss fights. Halfling/Ranger or Fighter. Specifically when using bows/xbows. Movement speed isn't as relevant for ranged characters, so their movement speed penalty isn't as bad. Since their crit misses are rerolled, this basically negates the disadvantage when firing point blank. It's really easy to get 90+% on ranged weapon rolls even when threatened, but crit missing is still an issue unless you're playing as a Halfling. Running this in my current playthrough and I have only had a single crit miss so far. Drow/Spore Druid. Pretty simple. Hand xbow proficiency just pairs really well with symbiotic entity. As a spore Druid I always want to have high AC to preserve my temp HP, so I like to run a shield. But then I find I never use my bonus action, which is where dual hand xbows comes in handy. Spore Druid + 1 level Wizard dip to get haste + Drow = cast 2 spells/cantrips and an offhand attack every turn. Very flexible and tanky. I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Great list as always Jay!
Much better than the previous race tier list, still over and under valuing some races and features in my opinion. My personal race tier list is as follows: God-tier: Lightfoot Halfling S-tier: Strongheart Halfling, Deep Gnome and Duergar A-tier: Wood Elf, Wood Half-elf, Rock Gnome* and Forest Gnome* B-tier: Half-High elf, Half-drow and Githyanki C-tier: Half-Orc**, Human, High Elf, Drow and Shield dwarf D-tier: Gold Dwarf and all the Tieflings E-tier: Dragonborn Trash-tier: Green dragonborn * Gnome Cunning alone is so good that it lands these lads here, however if your planning to go Gnome then you really should go Deep Gnome. ** Savage attacks is hugely overrated, it only effect melee weapon crits so, for most classes it's pretty useless. It's at it's best on a paladin as for some reason, when you smite it effects both the weapon damage and smite damage, therefore have Gale or someone pop a hold person on a guy you don't like and then go enjoy your guaranteed giant crit.
Gith also get the hidden buff of being pretty relevant in the plot and easy to insert as a non dark urge character. A good gith that free orpheus and romances lazael makes for a pretty solid character arc and storyline with decent motivations. Humans are special to a clepto like me because of extra carry weight 😂
Love the content. Do wish you'd edit the video a bit more. You can easily edit out some of these stutters you have throughout the video. I see some other UA-camrs just go back a line and start over. If you do this the video comes out much cleaner.
I did my honor mode as Duergar Throwbarb. And oh boy was it good. Short legs dont matter much when you can just keep throwing stuff at enemies. And that invisibility made some very VERY easy sneaking sections, as a Barbarian. Duergars also have plenty of dialogue options.
I love zariel's tiefling, its too underrated, infernal resistance is too useful because of the fire damage being so common and taumaturgy just makes it impossible to fail intimidation checks, unless you are dealing with some serious shit like a 20 check
@@JasonDunna in my opinion tieflings and elfs are the best for the tav experience and are very suitable for the game But gnomes having advantage in saving throws are just too good, its a shame that I'm so superficial😂
I tried playing as a half-orc but I hated the running animation so much I didn’t even make it off the nautiloid ship. My favorite race I’ve played so far was duergar (gloomstalker)
A tier for the drows is probably fair, free darkness is however insanely strong, particularly in honor mode. Some enemies are completely countered by darkness, which can obviously always be cast by someone else with a scroll or by leveling up one of the classes that learn it, but it can really be completely fight breaking. A single cast of darkness for example changes the fight against Ansur from possibly very difficult to one where he literally is unable to do anything, well he can charge up and do his scripted AOE thing, but that is not particularly scary. It shuts down all his damage and you can just set up camp with your martial characters and wail on him.
I was thinking S tier for them but they’re between S and A tier, the darkness is awesome. They also get a lot of unique dialogue so they’re fun to play as
Shield Dwarf on my sorcerer is amazing. I can have medium armor if I want. Also, they get the benefit of being the hairiest everywhere and I love that. All the cut scenes with him running around wearing only Astarion’s dyed underwear and his fuzzy muscular self is too good. Come act 3 I’ll switch it out when I can go shopping. I have a tactician solo Duergar shadow monk and lighted his skin a little bit revealing they are plenty hairy too and warhammer is now a dex based monk weapon giving dex ability drain once per round due to illithid powers. Dwarves are short, but too big to fit through small holes, so you loose that. I think they are higher than you put them. Picking a dwarven paladin or fighter? Well maybe only for the aesthetics, or Duergar invisibility. Gnomes get gloves that give +2 dex to gnomes, but +1 to halflings and dwarves. My first gnome bard easily had 24 dex by the end. That seems pretty powerful on its own, considering 20 is the max for ability improvement and some other items.
Benefit of being the hairiest was so funny to read hahahaha. Great point on the gnome gloves that’s really useful. I probably should’ve moved dwarves higher but the Duergar is just too good
1 thing about elves is they get perception and some weapon protifiencies (most notably the longbow) that half elves don't. so they are better than half elves for fighter/paladin, and for the bard its a hard choice since you want both longbow and shield proficiency
Can you pls do a ranking of races for a Dark Urge play through?? I dont do many plays and wanna get the most outta my first dark urge! 😇 thx for the tips!
Dragonborn Draconic Sorcerors look awesome! I had a Black dragonborn as a Red Draconic Sorceror who looked perfect for an evil run, and a White Dragonborn with Gold Draconic Sorcerer who would fit in perfectly as a regal noble Paladin multiclass... Sadly, they are one of the weakest combos to use. The breath goes obsolete ao early in the storyline because it never scales (pun intended) with level. The only true benefit is the elemental resistance which you can get most of time being a ranger or just drinking a resistance potion. Acid resistance is the only tricky resistance it solves. Otherwise its a gimmick race until Larian adds something to it.
Hahaha the scales pun was genius but I agree. Such a cool looking race but it just doesn’t have many features to make it worthwhile. Dragon breath isn’t even thaaat good
Here i am planning to go default durge for honor mode and play a dragonborn. Oh well. When i win, the glory shall be all the sweater. Time to seek adversity.
@@JasonDunna lol I once made a female wood elf who looked a lot like an ex. Took me a while to realize it, must have done it subconsciously. I was all the way into late act 2, and quickly deleted it! lol
The gnomes only really get the gloves that increase dexterity by 2. The advantage on saving throws is nice but not enough to balance the reduced movement speed
High elves a B, depends on preferences i guess. My lore college bards are always high elves and they talk enemies into committing suicide best :D Drow played half a year ago and was disappointed. In act 1, arrived at goblin camp, everyone is scared by just hearing a drow is coming. Act 2 i could swear, the Harpers looked at my drow a while longer before letting her pass. Act 3 and no one cares. Maybe it’s indeed better as a dark urge m because you get more special dialogues in act 3 so it may not feel so empty
OOOo i nice re-do!! All Elves win the aesthetic tier list. GNOMES! I love gnomes but i hate playing them so I always make my dream visitor one. Dragonborn still low tiers 😭
Elves are my favorite personally! Half wood/high or drow elf being the top of the list for shield proficiency! Yeah I messed up with halflings I had to give them their flowers
Dragonborn is my favs! BUT Vanilla/ PlayerHandBook 2014 Dragonborn is utter garbago, the BG3 version slightly better. BUT theres a solution! THESE mods from NEXUS, truly bring justice to Dragonborns. An absolute must. HOPE the awesome modeers behind these transfer them to the future built in Larian mod tools for PC and console! Im at the moment enjoy being a Topaz dragonborn Sorcerer with Amethyst dragon ancestry Draconic Bloodline. There are a few missings, NO purple Draconic Bloodline markings, use Red 3, its the closest Also Topaz for me are ORANGE, not yellow as set ( yes Im aware topaz as a gemstone come in other colors than orange, but its mostly that ) Load order!!! The highest number is added first, are lowest Above/ ahead Below/ after 0-9 Moonlilias dice skins ( just for some nice lemental flair to your dices ) 10: Descendants of Gem dragons 11: Saers Horn 12: BB26 DragonbornSubraceExpansion ( Fizban compatible ) 13: Fizbans Treasury of Dragons 14: Dragonborn Unleashed = Darkvision+Resilience+Savagery 15: Addon: Bonus Breath Weapon 16: Addon: Short Rest replenishment 17: Extra Attack compability + Improved UI+ Improved UI Assets legg nederst uansett All these mods should NOT hinder Steam achievements!
I am a new player and i still dont understand how things like mage hand, minor illusion and blade ward are affected by the amount of intelligence you have
I think the dragonborns should be rated as their subclasses too bro, for example: Red Dragonborn = C tier due to their good fire resistance Acid Dragonborn = D tier cause you’ll rarely need Acid resistance
I suppose so, but even just getting fire resistance isn’t as good as some of the others in C tier 😅 maybe Patch 7 they will give some more benefits to them!! They haven’t revealed all the updates yet
Unlikely to roll two 1's in a row? I had Astarion picklock a chest and got FOUR 1's in a row, and due to she sheer amount of bonuses he had it was the only number he could fail with. I rolled many 1's that day, not a great time
Also it may he bugged but the high elf free cantrip had been scaling off of your primary casting stat...itll say Intel but the math shows your casting stat
I'm actually confused because I'm a drow and she is proficient in light and medium armor, but at 08:30 he says that's only a githyanki's thing? Anyone else experience that?
Not being able to be put to sleep by spells is pretty good. Also its pretty funny if you try to fall for Gut's trap. She gets po'd at you, but seriously she thought that was going to work against elves.
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Orcs and Gith
Pros: a bunch of unique bonuses and abilities that are super useful
Cons: look ugly as shit
Dragonborn
Cons: no racial bonuses except a worthless breath attack and common resistance based on color
Pros: look cool a heck
Hahahahah
The Dragonborn should get fly, or dragon breath as a bonus action or something to make them worthwhile using
Idk man Lae'zel is pretty hot for an alien
@@Dead_Hitori You are right, but she's sorta an exception
@@Dead_Hitori The half orc and gith women don’t look bad. The same can’t be said for the male faces
Another con: stupid looking hats. The only one that looks relatively cool is the weave hood but your db would have to be bald.
Also there is a mod that makes dragonbreath a bonus action, and oh do they become better after that.
The most interesting racial feature for Githyanki is the sheer amount of race-specific dialogue they get. They get 3x more unique dialogue options than Drow, who have the second most.
I didn’t know it was that much wow that’s sick
they're like the main characters of bg3, they got a whole opening cutscene and an entire region dedicated to them
Does anyone find it weird every enemy Githyanki has the ability to parry attacks. But Lae'zel or your character if Githyanki do not get that ability.
@@02091992able cuz balance you know 🤣
@@02091992able would have been too op tbh
dragonborn looks very cool, especially for Durge, but Larian needs to offer more to this race.
Yes!! I agree there dragon people but no dark vision or proficiency with persuasion as a call back to there +2 to Charisma from the tabletop.
Even if they made the dragon breath per turn instead of short rest then people could build around it, even though the breath isn’t particularly good. I think they should get something at least
I think Dragonborn was meant to be played only as Durge...
@@mralex8444 As far as I know, the race was included in the 5e version of DND and the number of dragonborn on the sword coast is very low. That's why I think it doesn't get enough reaction from NPCs. I don't think it was added to the game just for Durge, but it's definitely not valued enough
They should officialy add Gem dragonborns and have GEM dragon ancestries for Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer. But for now HERES the solution: THESE mods from NEXUS, truly bring justice to Dragonborns. An absolute must. HOPE the awesome modeers behind these transfer them to the future built in Larian mod tools for PC and console!
Im at the moment enjoy being a Topaz dragonborn Sorcerer with Amethyst dragon ancestry Draconic Bloodline.
There are a few missings, NO purple Draconic Bloodline markings, use Red 3, its the closest
Also Topaz for me are ORANGE, not yellow as set ( yes Im aware topaz as a gemstone come in other colors than orange, but its mostly that )
Load order!!!
The highest number is added first, are lowest
Above/ ahead
Below/ after
0-9 Moonlilias dice skins ( just for some nice lemental flair to your dices )
10: Descendants of Gem dragons
11: Saers Horn
12: BB26 DragonbornSubraceExpansion ( Fizban compatible )
13: Fizbans Treasury of Dragons
14: Dragonborn Unleashed = Darkvision+Resilience+Savagery
15: Addon: Bonus Breath Weapon
16: Addon: Short Rest replenishment
17: Extra Attack compability
+ Improved UI+ Improved UI Assets legg nederst uansett
All these mods should NOT hinder Steam achievements!
Honestly, I prefer Asian over Caucasian. Oh, we're talking about baldur's gate, my bad.
You're spittin tho
Bruh NOOOO 😭
yea the caucasian subrace british has pretty terrible passives imo
I'll go with white, safe choice for current meta
You have disadvantage on saving throw for spicy food though
One thing as well you missed out on with half-orcs is they have a free proficiency in intimidation as well and NPCs will also comment on your appearance being as such which makes it fun for melee classes if you intend to be a big bruiser, and free intimidation if you run a half-orc charisma class that can mix in melee is very valuable unless you're playing Durge.
@@DigitalBlizzNX that’s true! They’re an S tier race but not one I pick hahaha. So great on a martial class though!
The word “features” doing a lot of PR work here
“Features” is doing some serious heavy lifting
Githyanki ALSO get access to really good and race specific gear features. ^^ Love to Lae'Zel!
True that! Also if you steal Voss’s sword in act 1 you can basically have that on Lae’zel the entire game
@@JasonDunna How do you steal it?
@@jadenquest9544Command: Drop as a cleric, then have someone in the party pick it up before he retrieves it on his turn.
It'll require a lot of save scumming because the NPC has insane statblocks for early act 1 but rolling the sub 15% chance on a quicksave doesn't take too long for a free legendary greatsword for the entire playthrough.
An under valued aspect of Elf is the proficiency in Perception, and of Wood Elf in Perception and Stealth. You’re getting one or two of the three thieving skill proficiencies you want most from Rogue (Perception, Sleight of Hand, Stealth.)
Githyanki are just amazing. They basically always have whatever skills you want for them independent of their class, and free enhanced leap an misty step and great from the start to end of your play through.
I want to love Duergar, because invisibility at will is insane if you’re playing an assassin or archer. But by the time it comes in at level 5, I feel like I already have the invisibility spell or potions when I need them.
Fun list.
Yeah that is true! I’m a big fan of wood elves / half elves. I like the shield proficiency from half elves though
Gith and Duergar are both incredible
@@JasonDunna Tbh that mostly matters if you play Wizard / Sorcerer / EB Lock, nearly every other build either gets the shield proficiency from their class / dip or doesn't use it (monks, dual wield melee, 2h melee). For example my favourite build is archer bard and while this one gets the proficiency late from a fighter or ranger dip, I'd rather have racial longbows (titanstring) than racial shield, so I can use gloves of dex rather than being forced into gloves of archery or using a different build.
Actually Storm Sorcerer gets shield proficiency from Tempest Cleric dip. So that's another one that doesn't need it.
I realized Larian was very smart making Wyll and Gale human - the only classes on the roster that benefit highly from the extra shield proficiency.
On the other hand, classes that don't utilize bonus action well can benefit from drow's hand crossbow proficiency in off-hand.
Duergar has a co-op file character is broken. Since their invisibility does 't have a timer you can just walk around in stealth without needing prior knowledge of the encounters.
Obviously having invisibility as a spell or potions are options, but having reliable and resource free out of combat stealth to run around the map for free is always valuable.
You won't need to worry about popping potions on the duergar in an honour mode file, saving them for the rest of the party. If anything, it's just saving you resources.
Most unique dialog options is guthyanki, drow is the second most unique dialogs, but gith has 4 to 5 times more unique dialogs than drown
That’s wild I didn’t know it was that much
Its worth mentioning that the githyanki also have significantly more unique dialogue choices (600+), the drow were in the 200's, duergar a little less than that and every other race gets significantly less unique dialogue. Even if roleplaying doesn't concern you, the githyanki have quite a few Items that have effects if you're githyanki (or disguised as one)
Holy heck!?
Drow do have a ton of unique dialogue options, but what's shocking is Githyanki have over three times as many. Definitely going to Gith it up next run to see what that's all about.
@@KrucielBL three times?? For real?
I was gonna try this next but now he makes me wanna be a halfling !!
Thank you for a great video! This is helping me pick a race for my first personal play through (after playing a bit with a friend)
So happy to hear you found it useful! Playing BG3 with friends is fun, but it’s also great solo. Have an awesome day
My favorite race is Wood Half-Elf. It combines powerful traits with a pleasant appearance. If you don't have a high charisma score as a party face and also don't have access to the Friends spell, High Elf or High Half-Elf can be very helpful for passing conversation checks. Overall I also think Githyanki are the best due to their versatility. I really want to try Duergar in my next playthrough.
Yeah the cantrip for friends is pretty nice! Minor illusion and mage hand are two other solid choices. Githyanki have so many benefits it’s incredible. You won’t regret a duergar run!
As I said in the class tier list, Duergar is probably the best choice for solo honour mode especially when paired up with Druid as a class. Simply because invisible owlbear that can spam Crushing Flight without getting detected by various bosses.
Hahahaha I love the idea of that and I’ll have to try it
I'm looking at picking up this game the next time it goes on sale, so these videos are helpful. Thank you for making it!
Duergar Invisibility needs to be in it's own tier of S+ imo
I swear that playing a Duergar Gloomstalker Assassin is one of the most overtly busted combos possible and absolutely trivializes the game. I legitimately went the entirety of Act 2 until Myrkul without ever long resting or taking a single point of damage.
I legitimately have no words. People talk about Dark Urge's mantle, but this ability is that piece of equipment that's already S tier but cranked up to the max. I have never see the AI so utterly powerless than against this build right there
It struggles a lot against Myrkul however
Drow is s tier because has lot interaction more than any race in act 1 you can go goblin camp without using any dice roll
Oh yeah they’re awesome!! I think I have the most playtime with my drow to be honest
Your BG3 content is always thoughtful, helpful, and entertaining - keep up the awesome work dude, and thank you :))
Hey thanks so much! I’m glad you find it entertaining, if you ever have any requests just let me know my friend
Half-orc is my favorite race in bg3 and in tabletop.. you may look ugly as sin but you get a lot of great bonuses and you get to role-play as an outcast literally no matter where your adventure takes you.
I like your perspective on them! They’re the strongest race for a martial class so they’re worth playing as
When you get halsin's pipe you can not do anything with it, the makers of the game overlooked that. I have wanted Halsin to smoke his pipe while in his inventory. It whould amazing for him to smoke his pipe in a romance sence.
Oh man that would be cool, hopefully modders bring that in!
The cat milk bowl in last light inn also doesn’t have any unique interaction with the cat, and there’s something related to Astarion as well
Can you make a tierlist equipments condition such as Electric Charge, Heat and Mental Fatigue? Awsome vid
I spent the afternoon compiling the equipment conditions / effects and I’ll have a video up later today! Thanks for the awesome idea
As someone who does low man runs (2 character party is my favourite way to play), Gnome is one of my favourite races simply because of Gnome cunning. Having permanent advantage on mind blasts and hold person is a literal life saver. I still get vietnam flashbacks from having both my characters getting hold person'd on the same turn and losing my 2 man honour run in act 3. For all short races, I highly recommend a 1 level dip into storm sorcerer for the flight ability. Helps negate their movement speed penalty. I'll list some other race and class considerations for anyone interested.
Wood Elf/Light Cleric. A match made in heaven. You get shortsword proficiency which light Clerics lack. This allows you to dump STR and put points in DEX instead which is a more important stat overall (better initiative, AC, and DEX saves). The extra movement speed can be weaponized with Spirit Guardians, and you can dual wield short swords to weaponize your bonus action.
Zariel Tiefling/Bard, Paladin, Warlock, Sorcerer. The big benefit here is having a high CHA class with Thaumaturgy. Bard in particular is insane with this cantrip given they can get expertise in Intimidation and Performance. Even extremely high 25/30 DC skill checks are a complete joke with Thaumaturgy Bards. You can gaslight your way through almost all act 2 boss fights.
Halfling/Ranger or Fighter. Specifically when using bows/xbows. Movement speed isn't as relevant for ranged characters, so their movement speed penalty isn't as bad. Since their crit misses are rerolled, this basically negates the disadvantage when firing point blank. It's really easy to get 90+% on ranged weapon rolls even when threatened, but crit missing is still an issue unless you're playing as a Halfling. Running this in my current playthrough and I have only had a single crit miss so far.
Drow/Spore Druid. Pretty simple. Hand xbow proficiency just pairs really well with symbiotic entity. As a spore Druid I always want to have high AC to preserve my temp HP, so I like to run a shield. But then I find I never use my bonus action, which is where dual hand xbows comes in handy. Spore Druid + 1 level Wizard dip to get haste + Drow = cast 2 spells/cantrips and an offhand attack every turn. Very flexible and tanky.
I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Great list as always Jay!
Much better than the previous race tier list, still over and under valuing some races and features in my opinion.
My personal race tier list is as follows:
God-tier: Lightfoot Halfling
S-tier: Strongheart Halfling, Deep Gnome and Duergar
A-tier: Wood Elf, Wood Half-elf, Rock Gnome* and Forest Gnome*
B-tier: Half-High elf, Half-drow and Githyanki
C-tier: Half-Orc**, Human, High Elf, Drow and Shield dwarf
D-tier: Gold Dwarf and all the Tieflings
E-tier: Dragonborn
Trash-tier: Green dragonborn
* Gnome Cunning alone is so good that it lands these lads here, however if your planning to go Gnome then you really should go Deep Gnome.
** Savage attacks is hugely overrated, it only effect melee weapon crits so, for most classes it's pretty useless. It's at it's best on a paladin as for some reason, when you smite it effects both the weapon damage and smite damage, therefore have Gale or someone pop a hold person on a guy you don't like and then go enjoy your guaranteed giant crit.
Gith also get the hidden buff of being pretty relevant in the plot and easy to insert as a non dark urge character. A good gith that free orpheus and romances lazael makes for a pretty solid character arc and storyline with decent motivations.
Humans are special to a clepto like me because of extra carry weight 😂
Yeah Gith are tied to the plot heavily so they make for a good choice!
Yeah I’m glad I played my first playthrough as a human
Looking forward to your Patch 7 coverage, once it drops this week (it's already Monday here).
I’m going to put up a video tomorrow talking about it in anticipation, really looking forward to it!
Love the content. Do wish you'd edit the video a bit more. You can easily edit out some of these stutters you have throughout the video. I see some other UA-camrs just go back a line and start over. If you do this the video comes out much cleaner.
Thank you for the feedback
I did my honor mode as Duergar Throwbarb. And oh boy was it good. Short legs dont matter much when you can just keep throwing stuff at enemies. And that invisibility made some very VERY easy sneaking sections, as a Barbarian. Duergars also have plenty of dialogue options.
I love zariel's tiefling, its too underrated, infernal resistance is too useful because of the fire damage being so common and taumaturgy just makes it impossible to fail intimidation checks, unless you are dealing with some serious shit like a 20 check
Yeah that’s true! Zariel’s tieflings are the best I think
@@JasonDunna in my opinion tieflings and elfs are the best for the tav experience and are very suitable for the game
But gnomes having advantage in saving throws are just too good, its a shame that I'm so superficial😂
I tried playing as a half-orc but I hated the running animation so much I didn’t even make it off the nautiloid ship. My favorite race I’ve played so far was duergar (gloomstalker)
Hahahaha yeah im not a fan of the orc animations either. I mostly stick to elves but duergar is a fun one
A tier for the drows is probably fair, free darkness is however insanely strong, particularly in honor mode. Some enemies are completely countered by darkness, which can obviously always be cast by someone else with a scroll or by leveling up one of the classes that learn it, but it can really be completely fight breaking. A single cast of darkness for example changes the fight against Ansur from possibly very difficult to one where he literally is unable to do anything, well he can charge up and do his scripted AOE thing, but that is not particularly scary. It shuts down all his damage and you can just set up camp with your martial characters and wail on him.
I was thinking S tier for them but they’re between S and A tier, the darkness is awesome. They also get a lot of unique dialogue so they’re fun to play as
Shield Dwarf on my sorcerer is amazing. I can have medium armor if I want. Also, they get the benefit of being the hairiest everywhere and I love that. All the cut scenes with him running around wearing only Astarion’s dyed underwear and his fuzzy muscular self is too good. Come act 3 I’ll switch it out when I can go shopping. I have a tactician solo Duergar shadow monk and lighted his skin a little bit revealing they are plenty hairy too and warhammer is now a dex based monk weapon giving dex ability drain once per round due to illithid powers. Dwarves are short, but too big to fit through small holes, so you loose that. I think they are higher than you put them. Picking a dwarven paladin or fighter? Well maybe only for the aesthetics, or Duergar invisibility.
Gnomes get gloves that give +2 dex to gnomes, but +1 to halflings and dwarves. My first gnome bard easily had 24 dex by the end. That seems pretty powerful on its own, considering 20 is the max for ability improvement and some other items.
Benefit of being the hairiest was so funny to read hahahaha. Great point on the gnome gloves that’s really useful. I probably should’ve moved dwarves higher but the Duergar is just too good
Elves be it high or wood are in S tier for me because of the perception proficiency , same goes for drow
Yeah perception is solid to get! I think the shield proficiency from half elves is really good too though, especially on a caster
@@JasonDunna I just use the bracers of defence on elf casters which is better than nothing i guess
That’s fair, takes up a glove slot but you can go dual wielder with two stat sticks
Hello~ thanks for you make this video, so Gith is also top one race in the hardcore or honour mode?
Don’t forget wood elves also gain stealth proficiency 👍
That is true!
The best race is Canadian. They are 1/4 woodelf. And have great smiles. They are proficient in Persuation and great abs.
Yeah I think you’re right on that one!!
Having the ability to secrete maple syrup at will is a pretty awesome race perk too.
@@idrisnobody little known fact: I’m able to stay lean because my body converts calories into maple syrup and expels it
@@idrisnobodyLMFAO
1 thing about elves is they get perception and some weapon protifiencies (most notably the longbow) that half elves don't. so they are better than half elves for fighter/paladin, and for the bard its a hard choice since you want both longbow and shield proficiency
Yeah it’s a tricky choice, shield proficiency is usually very worthwhile on casters and even bards, but the perception proficiency is nice too
It is worth noting that Wood elevs Also get proficiancy in stealth inherantly which can be really useful even for nonestealthy classes
Yeah very true! Stealth is one of the most useful skills in the game
Can you pls do a ranking of races for a Dark Urge play through?? I dont do many plays and wanna get the most outta my first dark urge! 😇 thx for the tips!
That’s a solid idea, I’ll do something like that sometime soon!
Dragonborn Draconic Sorcerors look awesome! I had a Black dragonborn as a Red Draconic Sorceror who looked perfect for an evil run, and a White Dragonborn with Gold Draconic Sorcerer who would fit in perfectly as a regal noble Paladin multiclass... Sadly, they are one of the weakest combos to use. The breath goes obsolete ao early in the storyline because it never scales (pun intended) with level. The only true benefit is the elemental resistance which you can get most of time being a ranger or just drinking a resistance potion. Acid resistance is the only tricky resistance it solves. Otherwise its a gimmick race until Larian adds something to it.
Hahaha the scales pun was genius but I agree. Such a cool looking race but it just doesn’t have many features to make it worthwhile. Dragon breath isn’t even thaaat good
A tier list title that, without context, would not go over very well.
Context is important!! This is ranking the features / tooltips and dialogue availability that each gets, nothing else!!
Here i am planning to go default durge for honor mode and play a dragonborn. Oh well. When i win, the glory shall be all the sweater. Time to seek adversity.
Yea exactly, not saying it’s terrible to play as, but you’ll have more benefit from others. Can still be a lot of fun obviously!
Now a tier list for who’s hot versus who’s not! I jest of course.
I did a smash or pass
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@@JasonDunna lol I once made a female wood elf who looked a lot like an ex. Took me a while to realize it, must have done it subconsciously. I was all the way into late act 2, and quickly deleted it! lol
@@tonymartos2922 Well that must just be your preference, youll find someone else!
@@JasonDunna haha yeah I typically go Drow, Gnome, Duergar and Gith now lol
I think the gold dwarf paladin is a solid choice with huge health bonuses. A tier for me.
Deep gnome doesn’t have speak with animals 😂😂
Forest gnome *** I might’ve butchered that bouncing between sub races
Would be kinda useful tho deep gnomes need some more features
The gnomes only really get the gloves that increase dexterity by 2. The advantage on saving throws is nice but not enough to balance the reduced movement speed
High elves a B, depends on preferences i guess. My lore college bards are always high elves and they talk enemies into committing suicide best :D
Drow played half a year ago and was disappointed. In act 1, arrived at goblin camp, everyone is scared by just hearing a drow is coming. Act 2 i could swear, the Harpers looked at my drow a while longer before letting her pass. Act 3 and no one cares. Maybe it’s indeed better as a dark urge m because you get more special dialogues in act 3 so it may not feel so empty
OOOo i nice re-do!! All Elves win the aesthetic tier list. GNOMES! I love gnomes but i hate playing them so I always make my dream visitor one.
Dragonborn still low tiers 😭
Elves are my favorite personally! Half wood/high or drow elf being the top of the list for shield proficiency!
Yeah I messed up with halflings I had to give them their flowers
@@JasonDunna halflings are cool, but they're so short the movement speed just sets me off 🥺
@@MulderHiggins as a wood elf enjoyer I have a hard time having less than 9m movement speed. I like my drow half elf too because darkness 😎
@@JasonDunna That drow dark urge has been through so many class changes she probably is having an identity crisis
Dragonborn is my favs! BUT Vanilla/ PlayerHandBook 2014 Dragonborn is utter garbago, the BG3 version slightly better. BUT theres a solution! THESE mods from NEXUS, truly bring justice to Dragonborns. An absolute must. HOPE the awesome modeers behind these transfer them to the future built in Larian mod tools for PC and console!
Im at the moment enjoy being a Topaz dragonborn Sorcerer with Amethyst dragon ancestry Draconic Bloodline.
There are a few missings, NO purple Draconic Bloodline markings, use Red 3, its the closest
Also Topaz for me are ORANGE, not yellow as set ( yes Im aware topaz as a gemstone come in other colors than orange, but its mostly that )
Load order!!!
The highest number is added first, are lowest
Above/ ahead
Below/ after
0-9 Moonlilias dice skins ( just for some nice lemental flair to your dices )
10: Descendants of Gem dragons
11: Saers Horn
12: BB26 DragonbornSubraceExpansion ( Fizban compatible )
13: Fizbans Treasury of Dragons
14: Dragonborn Unleashed = Darkvision+Resilience+Savagery
15: Addon: Bonus Breath Weapon
16: Addon: Short Rest replenishment
17: Extra Attack compability
+ Improved UI+ Improved UI Assets legg nederst uansett
All these mods should NOT hinder Steam achievements!
I am a new player and i still dont understand how things like mage hand, minor illusion and blade ward are affected by the amount of intelligence you have
They aren’t affected by your stats!
Damage cantrips get your spellcasting bonus added to their dice for attack rolls (16 INT = +3, 20 INT = +5)
@@JasonDunna thanks for your reply. There is still tons of stuff i dont know, but I will scour your channel for more
@ there’s a LOT to this game!! If you ever have questions just leave a comment on any video and I’ll get the notification to reply!
I'm really liking the racist Jay arc. Anyway time to see duergar, gith and wood elf/half elf in S. Hoping to see some deep gnome love too
@@e-duh3529 heyyy!!! I’m basing these off the features they bring! And I think you’ll like my rankings
With get the most unique dialog by a mile
Gith and Drow both get a ton!
@@JasonDunna yea with is first then lolth sworn drow, then deep gnome and seladrine drow
Githyanki are not the only race that can get medium armor proficiency. Shield dwarves have it as well
Yeah I forgot about that when I said it hahaha but being real, not many play as Shield dwarf
@@JasonDunna Or githyanki. Let’s be real, the extra proficiencies was the least they could do for them. 🤣
I think the dragonborns should be rated as their subclasses too bro, for example:
Red Dragonborn = C tier due to their good fire resistance
Acid Dragonborn = D tier cause you’ll rarely need Acid resistance
I suppose so, but even just getting fire resistance isn’t as good as some of the others in C tier 😅 maybe Patch 7 they will give some more benefits to them!! They haven’t revealed all the updates yet
Unlikely to roll two 1's in a row? I had Astarion picklock a chest and got FOUR 1's in a row, and due to she sheer amount of bonuses he had it was the only number he could fail with.
I rolled many 1's that day, not a great time
Hahahaha that sounds awful. I had 3 in a row before but 4 is statistically much less likely. The halflings luck does make it muuuch less likely
Also it may he bugged but the high elf free cantrip had been scaling off of your primary casting stat...itll say Intel but the math shows your casting stat
I always find it misses hahaha
githyanki easily the best because they lay eggs
@@jhealey48 BAHAHAHAHA great point. That’s why they’re S tier
Woah im early
Sheeesh that was quick!! You must have the Alert feat
Jay, you are an S tier handsome.
Why thank you!
@@JasonDunna Why? Have you ever looked at yourself in the mirror? You are every gaymer's dream boy.
Who has tried smoking a pipe with tobacco? I am 29 going on 30 and a guy who has been smoking a pipe sence 18.
Gandalf vibes. I haven’t in a while
I'm actually confused because I'm a drow and she is proficient in light and medium armor, but at 08:30 he says that's only a githyanki's thing? Anyone else experience that?
Classes add armor proficiency too, what class are you playing?
@JasonDunna ohh ok, Cleric 😇
@@anyadarlingg cleric gets medium armor proficiency! Tempest, War, Life and Nature domains get heavy armor too!
@@JasonDunna thanks for the info!!
Least racist race tierlist
Gith is at the bottom of that easily lol
6:30 "Humans... if you wanna play as yourself, this is the best choice."
Clearly being extra-terrestrianfobic and not inclusive.
Hahahaha you’re right I should’ve been more inclusive of the tieflings and half-orcs out there
Not being able to be put to sleep by spells is pretty good. Also its pretty funny if you try to fall for Gut's trap. She gets po'd at you, but seriously she thought that was going to work against elves.
Hahahaha yeah I fell for the trap as a human oof
Selarine Drow can choose any deity as a Cleric except for Lolth. Superior darkvision is pretty good.
Yeah that is true!
DUERGAR IS THE BEST RACE infinite invisibility
Yeah it’s so sweet, turning invisible whenever you want is so much fun 🫥