The Oklahoma City Thunder's PERFECT Offseason! What Does It Look Like? | NBA Ideal Offseason
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What do you want to see out of the Thunder this offseason?
Zach Eddey would be my choice in the draft!!!! Is a sleeper big very underrated straight rebound machine! #THUNDERUP!!!
Draft a SF or PF, trade for Alex Caruso, get rid of Hayward and put Giddey on the bench.
@@AaronRamirez-vy2wl I don’t know if we can call him a sleeper haha everyone knows about him! Just not sure how the game translates.
I personally am growing in favor of him but I think y’all should trade back if that’s who you want.
@@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381 Well Hayward is already gone so your plan is already somewhat in motion haha!
Trade Giddey, target Deni and/or Portis
When you clicked on Aaron Wiggins name while saying getting rid of some of these useless players I cried and died and shit my pants. The Saviour of basketball needs to stay in OKC 😭😭
*I know you didn’t mean anything by it lol*
Also also
I really hope we can see more Dieng minutes as well, we are talking about a power forward who can help with rebounds and shoot threes and we got the 6’9 GLeague MVP waiting to make an impact, just hope he can rise to his potential!
@@KBilliez Oh shit did I say that while hovering over Wiggins? 😂 Sorry for the scare lol.
Yeah I wanted to be sure we cleared some space for Dieng to get some burn!
#freeAaronWiggins #heaterp
@@jacewoods411 What is the 2nd hashtag?
A power forward that can rebound and shoot the 3. Giddey needs to learn a shooting niche and learn a defensive dribble. Chet needs to gain strength, just dub needs to learn to pivot on his attack. Let Giddey’s contract go to restricted free agency and have 2 more years on his contract. You offer a good look with bridges.
Can’t really disagree with any of that haha! Glad you like the Mikal trade!
Cool video! :)
I think something looming is that the Thunder will eventually have to pay everyone.
This makes me think they will need to use a lot of those draft picks to keep cycling in new rookie contracts as role players instead of dumping away all the assets in a 2K style trade (like a lot of ppl are wishing for).
Sam Presti is a magician in terms of gaining future value in most transactions he makes. I don’t see him ever making a roster move that compromises his value for long-term thinking.
If I had to guess, the team will be mostly the same next year, but he’ll figure out how to make an unexpected interesting roster move or two while prioritizing stability over anything boom-or-bust-ish.
I could totally see that. There is a great argument to be made that you just run it back next year, and all you add is like a beefy backup center. Keep the assets, let this group continue to grow together. Sounds good to me haha.
Lindy waters is a vibe guy (being a native american and native oklahoman), and Lindy is definitely a tradeable option.. Lindy provides nothing we don't already have
ORLANDO MAGIC! We have the 18th pick and think Devin Carter would be a nice pick for us but not sure if he will be there at 18. Also Giddey is intriguing, a 6’8 point guard next to two 6’10 forwards +the fact we can hide Giddey’s defense right next to Jalen Suggs defensive abilities. What makes sense for an Orlando - OKC trade ?
ORLANDO MAGIC! 😂
Glad you can speak for the team haha. Devin would be an interesting prospect for sure! I personally don’t see the Giddey fit all, you kinda have a Josh Giddey in Anthony Black already. I think Orlando needs to focus on a PG that can create their own shot/shoot this offseason. See my Orlando Magic ideal offseason vid 👀.
If Giddey gets traded i and alot of other fans will go with him!!!!!
Oh interesting. I haven’t heard many Thunder fans with this perspective. You would rather keep him? I think he’s really good I just don’t think it’s a fit.
@@_AVC_ Most Australians.
@@alimfuzzy 😂 Fair fair
Giddey is good, and could be a great floor general for our 2nd string. I just think there are more consistent options that we can run
@@doodlebob5335 I think Giddey is a starter in the NBA and honestly I don’t have many doubts at all about that. I just think it’s gonna be better if he’s allowed to be the player he is supposed to be. Would help OKC to have a guy that plays off Shai better as well.
Id like to see them sign Nic Claxton. I like his fit here.
You playing Chet at the 4 then??
I hope Josh Giddey gets traded. He is being absolutely wasted at OKC. Look at his stats when shai doesn't play
Yeah I completely agree. I think he’s a really good player he just needs the ball. Probably best for both sides.
Should add Kenny, and a 2nd round pick to the Giddey deal and try grab J'sean Tate, also maybe trade up for ware Salun feels too much like Dieng2.0, that if you going bridges route, otherwise I would mind one of: Bobby Portis, Tari Eason or potentiall Naz to come start all add size and spot spotting up from behind the arc especially the first with the rebounded well help us bang inside with T Wolves or Mavs.
Tari is an interesting name in that list of people. There are a lot of young dudes on the Rockets so someone is bound to get lost in it. He could be a guy you try to save from that. I’m guessing if OKC trades for anyone it’s someone a little more developed but it’s interesting nonetheless.
Trading OKC picks is a bit trickier than you'd think. That 2026 OKC is actually tied to two swaps due to the James Harden trade, with Philly having the least of OKC/HOU/Clippers, and OKC getting the best two, but the HOU pick is also top 4 protected, so OKC only gets 1 pick if the Rockets are bottom 4. I don't think it's really tradable unless it's something like 2nd least of OKC's 2026 picks, but then if the Rockets pick doesn't convey OKC wouldn't have any 2026 picks. 2025 and 2027 are also complicated in a similar way, with 2025 having double swap rights with Clippers/Rockets (top 10) and 2027 having a swap of the Clippers pick for either OKC or Denver (top 5). I think the only cleanly tradable picks OKC has are 2025 Utah (top 10), 2025 Philly (top 5), Miami (top 14), 2029 Denver (top 5), and OKC 2029/2031. That's still 7 tradable 1st's though.
Yeah I was reading up on that before the video. Tried to put little notes next to the picks haha. They are certainly a little complicated to work with but I don’t think there is anything preventing them from moving them. They are just weird in how they convey. But let me know if I’m wrong haha! Their picks situation is wild!
I'd go for Edey personally but everybody says he's slow (showed in the combine he was pretty fast for a big) and he has no post moves. He can learn post moves from a legend like Hakeem or KG. Move Chet to the 4 and put Edey at the 5 so he can grab boards. Edey showed also he can hit 3s at the combine as well.
I love the comment “he can just learn moves from Hakeem or KG” haha. Just so matter of fact 😅. So yeah I don’t hate the idea of Edey at all, but I think if you’re drafting him to be a starting center and not a role player you might be disappointed.
I also don’t want to move Chet off the 5. There is an economic utility of players and you lose utility of Chet when you take him away from the 5. I think it would be more beneficial to address different needs on the team.
@AVC_Streams I'm just saying he's not completely hopeless like people are saying. Not saying he will have an incredible post game but at least he will be in a position to learn from a veteran just like when Chet worked with KD over the summer. He has good size at 285-300 pounds. Maybe I'm missing something but I think he could be a great fit for OKC.
They could also go with Cody Williams. He has size (6'8) and can actually play the 4 and have his older brother play the 3. As long as he works out with his brother and bulk up I can see him being a good option as well.
They can also try to go for a big like Nic Claxton or Jarrett Allen. That can also help them.
@@paullucas6275 Yeah I don’t think he’s hopeless at all. I just don’t see him as a starter. I think if you ask him to do 1-2 well you’ll be happy with him.
It would be cool to have the Williams brothers together. Cody needs a lot of work but they can help him with that there for sure.
As far as Allen or Claxton I’ll again go back to fit and the utility of players. If Chet is gonna be apart of their future I don’t see him moving away from the center spot.
@AVC_Streams I hear you. How do you feel about Kyle Filipowski?
@@paullucas6275 Me and my scout buddies aren’t too high on him personally. The shooting ability is cool and so is the size, so that alone is intriguing. We are in agreement that his attitude is kinda a concern. That’s a concern when translating to defense, rebounding, versatility.
I think he has a spot in the league I just don’t think it’s a huge role.
Zach Edey is the Pick
I don’t know how much basketball sense it makes right now but I see where you’re going with it. The basketball fan in me just wants to see them on the court at the same time 😂.
@@_AVC_ I feel like Twin Towers is a model that could gain in popularity after Brook Lopez/Giannis won a title, and KAT/Gobert may very well win this year. Edey has physical dominance in spades to go along with Chet's lanky, mobile build and outside shooting capabilities. Edey isn't the most mobile guy, but I think he moves about as well as a standard 7'0" 250 lb true center, which is impressive for actually being 7'4" 300 lbs, and if he can be an offensive mismatch without being a defensive liability, that's a scary weapon to add to an already talented team.
@@heavylobster4339 I think there is a substantial difference between the guys listed and a potential of Chet and Zach 😅. I like the thinking but I worry we’re taking away some of Chet’s advantages if we move him out of the center position. I won’t say it’s not worth exploring because it is interesting and sounds fun but there is just such a physical difference between the people listed and those two.
Again as a pure basketball fan though I support it 😂.
I may be mad but I think Edey will be an All Star one day
@@Aussie_OKC_fan I personally disagree but hey he’s very physically imposing. All these dudes are talented in some capacity, the right scheme/system/opportunity matters so much.
Dallas killed OKC with their playing of two bigs who caused all sorts of issues with wide open alley oops, blocked shots and offensive rebounds. OKC was clearly the better team at every position other than Luka but still lost 4-2 although they were a play away from game 7. The blueprint of playing two bigs looks pretty solid now with Dallas and Minnesota doing this very effectively. If OKC can get Edey or Filipowski it's game over.
I’ve always been a proponent of telling teams that they need to address the backup center position before anything else on the bench. Bigs are always the scarcest resource because there just aren’t many of them, so depending on which one you get it can help you determine what else you need to do to fill in the gaps.
I totally agree with what you’re saying about the bigs. I don’t know if OKC goes for either of those two (although just as a basketball fan Big E would be awesome to see on that team haha) I think the idea is really onto something!
A little insight on the draft process, since I’ve been talking to a ton of scouts, there are not a ton of positive remarks coming about Filipowski. It’s a lot of “eh” remarks. Obviously he could be the next great big for all we know, but from the trained eyes we are kinda eh on him.
Kris Dunn is a solid signing.
Always is haha
Been binging this series since it popped up in my recommendations awesome content man i would like a link to the spreadsheet
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Love the bridges idea. As far as the big man that OKC needs though. Man it gets so tricky. Which is a great problem to have. The thunder love everybody dribble driving to eventually shoot a good shot or get a good look at the rim.
That’s why Chet worked out so well, and as much as we need a rebounder. There’s not many bigs who can rebound, dribble drive, and shoot it from deep. At least those who aren’t named Joel Embiid Nikola Jokic or Giannis.
I’ve not heard a lot of talk about this guy, so this is why I’ll ask your thoughts. Da’ron Holmes from Dayton seems like a man that could fit right in with this group. As well as checks all 3 boxes. What are your thoughts on Holmes? I think he’s our guy but no one is mentioning him
You make a great point that people constantly don’t mention. There are very few guys that can do everything haha. I always see comments like “Yeah we need some lengthy 3&D wings that can handle a bit.” I’m always like “Okay I don’t think Jayson Tatum is available haha.”
That’s why it’s so important to find role players that can really be positive in small parts of the game.
As far as Holmes goes I don’t know what problem he would necessarily solve for OKC. He can do a bit of everything but it wasn’t very efficient even at the college level. Shot was pretty bleh, turned it over a ton, his advanced rebounding numbers are pretty subpar for his height. I also don’t think he has the frame to be a good NBA rebounder since he’s so light.
I’d position him at the 4 and try to turn him into a wing before trying to make him a center personally.
Good vid
In the next couple years I want to see them be even more aggressive soon with trading their picks lthan just a guy like bridges. Theres a very short list of guys they couldnt get if they really wanted to. Its awesome to have so many picks but I feel like it would get redundant soon
Oh yeah 100%. That’s why I figured you start using some now. Because you’re exactly right, at some point people know you can’t use them all and they make you hold them.
If they run it back with the same team, the same results will happen. Western teams are going to get better and making the adjustment that are needed is pivotal for the Thunder now
To an extent yes. Teams will find a way to get better/worse but we can’t undervalue the power of development. This was their first playoff run and these are just you g dudes in general. From my time in coaching I coached a lot of 18-23 year olds. The growth that happens physically and mentally during that time is actually nuts.
Quality video just got yourself a subscriber mate!
Thank you 🫡.
Haha I really like this series, glad you liked it!!
As much as I don’t want Giddey to get traded bc of how young he still is, Mikel Bridges to OKC would be pretty dope.
Yeah I feel ya on that. It’s probably just better for both sides if they separate as well. Giddey is never gonna get to be the full player he can be otherwise.
Mark gonna run it back with his same starting 5 and sure up the bench. Mo Wagner is a name to look out for not hartenstein. Mark gonna draft Tyler or Tidjane and Ous will technically be their first round pick hes gonna see the court a whole lot
I can totally see them just saying eh we good and just picking up another big. No reason not to let this team grow together. I do really think they move Giddey though. Probably best for both parties.
Both Jalen/Jaylin Williams came in the same year, with Chet and Dieng, and all have played 2 years and have the 2 team options left on their 2+2 contracts, so they should all say 2 years left.. just saying
You are so right! So I scrape from basketball reference and apparently at the time I did the scrape they had some extra contract info for some reason. It seemed to only be for OKC though… kinda confused how that happened but hey great catch!!
@AVC_Streams No worries, I generally use Spotrac for contract details for that exact reason, they seem to have super accurate info. That said, I like the video and ideas, I do think it's unlikely the Nets would be willing to do Giddey and just the two mid 1sts as apparently they were thrown some pretty good offers this year for Bridges, so the idea of having to bid more, honestly I think your offer, then including the 12th overall (sounds like alot, but look at the big trades lately, teams are willing to throw 3, 4, 5 1sts at teams.) I think the exact problem you ran into with almost having to force a pick at 12, in a very week class kinda gives us that ability to just say screw it, let's cash in, make sure we get an Unbelievable fit (I can't think of a better player for OKC to add, including some of the other fan favorites of KAT, Lauri, Mobley/Allen than Bridges) and just sell out trying to win a title in these next two years before maxing out both Chet and Dub as well as Shai. Then most likely sign and trading Bridges at that point?
But the most important point you made: The Thunder, specifically Sam Presti has already done the hard work, and if anyone can put the finishing touches on this team, it is him. What a time to be a Thunder fan. 🙌🙌
@@drewmcgrady3766 You Thunder fans are so lucky. Looks like bright roads ahead! As for my Bulls… 😞
Can I get the spreadsheet? This whole idea is so cool and I absolutely love it
Ayyye I’m glad you like it! Wasn’t sure how it would do when I thought of it but it’s definitely the best series on the channel now haha!
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We should go over to the pistons and get cade for giddy and some pick
If you find a way to pull that one off I think all of Detroit will end up on a particular watch list 😅
Claxton and Hartenstein will be seeking more than the thunder can offer, the Joe extension will put them out of reach. Joe has to get an extension this offseason or he will become an unrestricted free agent after next season, of course he can be used in a trade but riding out his 2 mill next season is not an option.
I would tend to agree with this comment here ^
Yeah I don’t see them signing there haha.
I am 100% of the opinion that the Thunder should do nothing this offseason. Well, other than giving Wiggins and Joe a new deal. Those two guys are key.
Chemistry matters and teams need continuity. Any changes will make them worse than a more experienced version of this current team. I would be fine with OKC trading the draft pick for something further in the future if the opportunity presented itself.
That first paragraph I totally can agree with. Why not just let the chemistry build and the talent develop? Totally can get on board with it.
Trading the pick I would say probably not. At a certain point all those picks are gonna have a negative impact. Since at a certain point you literally won’t be able to use them all teams will use that against you in negotiations. That’s why I wanted to start using a few now, but overall I get what you’re saying and I’m with ya. Just let the core get better.
I will check out after knicks pacers but comment for algorithm 🙌
Goated comment 😂. I’m also tuned in right now!
Cool vid, can I get a link to the spreadsheets?
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I want this sheet!! Please!
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The Thunder doesn't need Mikal (and his contract) -- they have enough sub-6'7" players. They need SIZE. Why don't so-called analysts know this?
I had to click out of this video for that nonsense alone.
I think if we are judging 6’6 vs 6’7 we might have set unrealistic expectations 😅. I hear what you’re saying but come on haha, plus we add size later in the video to try and combat that issue.
I’d encourage you to form a complete thought on the vid and then let’s debate how much it makes sense! There are definitely some other cool ideas out there and I am down to listen.
@@_AVC_ @AVC_Streams By "sub-6'7"" I mean 6'6" and under. The Thunder has way too many 6'6" and under players to the point we've often run all-6'6" under lineups (with K-Rich at the 5) for two seasons. Mikal is a redundant player -- we have enough defensive-minded players his size. *We need size and experience.* Even Dort's (sole) previous playoff experience happened in the bubble. This current playoffs was his and most of the team's first Playoffs in front of a crowd, and SGA's second.
Again, the team needs size. I tried to continue watching the video, but I had to stop it when I saw that you wanted to go to the draft for size. Everyone knows bigs need time to develop, and with Mikal in the lineup, we'd be looking at 4 out of 5 starters being sub-6'7" or putting a draftee in the starting lineup and wasting more of Shai's time. (Keep in mind, Chet had a chance to experience and learn the NBA for a season before his "rookie" season and he still needed more experience for the playoffs.) We need to *trade* for a starter-caliber big, and if the rest of the video doesn't cover that, I can't keep watching. Mikal is not a 4, nor is Dub. Teams are getting taller and taller and we need an experienced starter-level 4 to counter that.
@@gellebelle1 Well if you do decide to watch the video a center does get added. If you don’t have the stomach for the listen though I can’t help ya haha.
I’ll leave my discord link here, feel free to hop on and we can discuss the topic. I try to give people the opportunity to get off the keyboard and talk about their stuff. I think I could share some pretty cool stuff with ya as well that you would find pretty interesting.
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Really well thought out video and spreadsheet.
Only thing that definitely won't happen is Andre Drummond. He is too one dimensional and he is not a Presti type of guy
Honestly I think they need a really good role player like him. Just has his job and does it well haha. Why do you think he’s not a Presti guy? Not disagreeing just curious.
Appreciate the love by the way!!
@@_AVC_ thanks for replying. I want us to go after Mo Wagner because he has that mongrel in him, can rebound and shoot the three
Maybe Drummond is a Presti guy?? I don't know. I just think he doesn't fit our 5 out offense.
Did you see Edey at the combine? He looks the goods. Much quicker than expected and seems able to shoot the three better than expected
@@Aussie_OKC_fan I respond to every comment haha. I doubt he leaves Orlando but I do agree that he has some attitude that would be useful on OKC! Fits the system as well. I worry about having an inbreeding of players like that but it’s certainly interesting.
@@Aussie_OKC_fan I have no idea I’ve never met the guy haha. Yeah I think Edey goes like 18-24 somewhere in there. I definitely like him more than the year before. I don’t see a star in him because his game is pretty simple but I do think he could make a real difference as a backup center right away.
Cason Wallace is not a backup PG... continue
I guess if you want to argue positions in basketball then fair enough haha. I would feel pretty good playing him at the 1 or 2.
#freeAaronWiggins #heaterp so he can reach his full potential the Hayward trade was a bust as he cut into his minutes noone played harder but yet underutilized than him
Yeah he only got like 15mpg but they have a lot of talent on the team. I definitely agree though that there is some interesting potential to explore. Where would you wanna see him go?
Denver or Clippers he can learn from Kawhi
@@jacewoods411 Is he coming off the bench for those teams?
Also is thing Joe will be worth too much after the year he has had shooting wise. Look for him to get moved unfortunately
That is certainly a possibility. I hope they keep him.
I'm going to keep saying it bring back Steven Adam's of the beach and get a stretch big in the draft
I don’t think Houston is giving up a guy they just traded for 😅.
@@_AVC_ everybody got a price
@@brandonross6249 Ouuu damn 😂😂. Whatcha willing to throw their way?
@AVC_Streams idk probably giddy an some pics 😆
@@brandonross6249 Aw dammit I thought you was gonna cook up some real shit 😂. Had me mad curious lol.
Alright... stopping this video because it's insulting... your analysis is like the family guy of analysis... just mad lib teams and players and place buzzwords..... can't believe anyone listens to this crap... at least about OKC you are totally off base.
Honestly, that Bridges suggestion is not bad. I'm a little surprised you picked Drummond over Valencunias, Claxton or Hartenstein though. I like Drummond, but he's past his prime and most of his rebounds come from repeated offensive missed tip ins. He's also horrendous on defense (OKC is defense minded, he wouldn't fit it), that's why his career tanked. Claxton is still developing yet almost a nightly double-double, plus a good defender with 3 blocks a night. He's not a big scorer which actually fits, cause the Thunder already have their other scoring options. I think Claxton would be a fantastic fit for the Thunder - and he's a similar age as the rest of the team, which I think can't hurt.
I like all those guys better than Drummond (I don’t know about JV after the playoffs but before I did lol), but I don’t know why they would go to OKC. Claxton/Hart seem like starters to me and I don’t think they would wanna split their minutes with Chet. We can’t put Chet at the 4 either, just no lol. Maybe you convince JV to play there but I just don’t know. Feel like he could still get one more start somewhere.
Yeah Drummond is traditionally a pretty poor defender but this year he was pretty positive on that end. Nothing crazy but he doesn’t need to be. Literally just a type of player they don’t have which is someone that can grab rebounds and be heavy haha.
Can I get a copy please
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Deni advija
That would be cool but I don’t see Washington giving up on one of their few success stories as of late 😅.
No No No…STOP!
I am currently holding my horses! 😂
Jazz: Giddy, Kenrich Williams
OKC: Collins
Shai, Dort, Williams, Collins, Holmgren
I like Collins the player but does he fit in OKC’s play style? I personally don’t think so but I like that you want more size.
You haven't watched film on Dieng.. because Dieng does not have a 3 pt shot.. Dieng will be traded..bro stop acting like you know thunder.
You've missed on just about every point so far
I would do the bridges trade but include Kenrich Williams and a 2nd to take the contract. I think I like Ware better in the draft, because he gets time to develop, and could replace Jwill as a back up center when his contract expires or take his spot straight up. I do like the Dunn signing, but instead of Drummond I would go after Obi Toppin, I think he would be the perfect depth 4, can defend, rebound a little bit, athletic, and can shoot. So there could be nights where he even closes games. And then I would close out with Jeff Green, just a depth guy who can play 3 positions if injuries really pile up.
I can dig those moves for sure! Ware really does interest me a lot as a prospect, certainly really talented. I don’t know if Brooklyn would take Kenny but it’s probably worth a conversation!
DJJ already said he wants to come back to Dallas. Sorry Thunders.
Have Thunder fans been trying to pry him from Dallas? 😂
I have a Drummond bet with my friends.
I bet $100 that Drummond will not be in OKC. The other 8 bet $5 each that he would.
Drummond will not be in the Thunder he won’t play for them
Ouu well obviously I hope you win the money haha but I do think he would be a nice add for them.
The fact you said Isiah joe was ok and we should bring him back. Like he was amazing lights out shooter saw him drop like 20 earlier this season in person kid is special
Did I really say Isiah Joe was just okay? That doesn’t sound like me but if I did them damn my bad 😂. I’m pretty sure I complimented him more than that but I could be going crazy. Can I get a timestamp?
Trade Josh giddy get DeMar DeRozan and Andre Drummond or Lonzo Ball perfect 👌
I would love to get Giddey on the Bulls personally! Not sure DeMar makes a ton of sense in OKC but I like the idea of trying to add some talent (especially Drummond).
Ur not getting Bridges for Kiddy and 2 non lottery picks
I’ll ask that we leave the Giddey jokes out, not fair to the dude but we can still talk some basketball.
Giddey himself is a really valuable asset. A few years removed top tier pick that has a ton of skill. I don’t know who else is offering something like that. Gives Brooklyn an actual good young player to start their rebuild.
@@_AVC_ Rockets offered Green (before he hit his stride) and the Nets own picks….. Josh is a negative asset at this point, w/his lack shooting, floor spacing, and no value as an on ball defender.
@@kennyhuffman4484 I think most NBA execs are gonna value Giddey more believe it or not. Also I can’t stand this narrative that Giddey is a bad defender. Giddey was literally top 20 in defensive rating. Just below Jaden McDaniels and just above Giannis.
@@_AVC_ Every NBA executive saw him become virtually unplayable….whatever metric has him next to McDaniels Giannis can be summarily dismissed. I get that ur higher on him than most but OKC won’t be able to get a drastically better asset (Bridges) w/o actually giving up incredible value.
Giddey is the 5th best on defense at any given time he's on the court... continue..
Giddey is top 20 in individual defensive rating. 1 spot behind Jaden McDaniels and one above Giannis. I know dome Thunder fans say he doesn’t stay in front of people and yeah I wouldn’t call it the best skill he has but part of it is their early X out defense. It’s part of the scheme to rotate earlier if you don’t hit marks at the right time. I can explain that more if you’re curious.
Draft Cody Williams. Trade for Deni A. Sign Hartenstein
Ouu wow a lot of thoughts here. Love it! I have some questions though…
I can see the cody Williams thing so no questions there. How much are you willing to give up for Deni because that franchise has very few wins as of late and they might not want to lose one of the few they have. He also won’t get to play his best play style there.
How are you planning to play IHart rotationally? Not sure he wants a bench role and (I’ve talked about this in other comments so maybe look for a deeper explanation there) I think moving Chet to the 4 doesn’t make much sense.
Can I get this excel sheet? What’s your discord
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Yes some dude who plays myGM on 2k knows best.
Not even trying to be a dick but I promise you my resume is better than most I know on UA-cam 😅. If you want I can share it with ya. I take it you probably don’t but I just don’t wanna have the wrong idea out there.
Imagine talking about a team you've never even followed... oh wait that's most of Fox sports and ESPN.
Whatcha talking about Rusty? 😂
@@_AVC_ It's like mad libs for basketball meets a family guy episode.. nonsense
@@rustytv3023 I’m down to have a conversation about stuff my man 😅 I don’t know why you choose violence today haha but I’m here to talk about this stuff!
Filopowski is the ideal fit for OKC there
He fits how they want to play. With those options Kyle is the pick
I hear what you want to do there and I totally get why. He doesn’t fit the system to a T because he can’t move really at all but it’s pretty damn close for sure. But I don’t think you want to fit the system that perfectly.
When you have everyone doing the same thing with the same skillset you run into problems come playoff time. Eventually you need role players that can be great in areas of general weakness for the team. Like having a guy that can just go get you some rebounds would be a nice thing.
Loved this vid.. you got a special talent to do what you just did! Keep it up brother!
Hey I really appreciate the kind words! Glad you enjoyed!!
I see another name that OKC could go for and it's Deni Avdija from WAS. Younger and a bit taller then Bridges and I'd say he's also an elite defender and he always guards the best players in every team and he can guard 1-4 He can also guard some undersized Centers and I don't wanna forget. His rebounding could be really useful with this thunder squad and he's just 23... really fits the age of this thunder team
I do like the fit of Deni a lot for OKC. I personally don’t think WAS is gonna let him go as they need to hold onto any success they have right now but if he becomes available then hell yeah!
I think another name I had is Jarret Allen, now personally I'd prefer someone like turner but we know pacer aint gonna give him for free but Allen would also do nice with this thunder squad since the Cavs wanna try to make Mobly the starting center I dont think allen has a purpose in that team already sooo might as well try bringing him in with this young team. Deni's a good idea esp with his versatility to play 3 and 4 which is hard to find rn, Id have to think It would be Giddy and a 1st for him
@@HenryBarlowe I mean don’t get me wrong that would be super cool. Love Allen a ton. I just don’t think another starting center makes a ton of sense. Chet doesn’t belong at 4 and you wouldn’t bring either dude off the bench, but hey if you could tell me that one of them is willing to then shit sign me up haha.
@@_AVC_ I guess I'm just worried about the size disadvantage OKC has esp after watching their matchup with the MAVS who just put so many tall and big bodies against this Team
@@HenryBarlowe Oh I totally hear you. That’s why I suggested Drummond. Doesn’t get much bigger than that guy haha. He’s not a perfect player but an elite role player!
I think the guy the thunder should get is lauri markannen although i think hes happy in utah and the jazz wanna win. Bridges from brooklyn is interesting although i think there also focused on building around him especially with none of there own picks.
I think the thunder will probably decline isaiah joes and wiggins team options to resign them in restricted free agency since they will be unrestricted the following yr. That gordon hayward trade they didnt give up much considering where they stand but they lost that trade.
Maybe the thunder call up atlanta and see how much capela costs and make him there backup center. They could renounce gordon hayward cap hold and use picks and or another cheap player in trade. Ive seen people throw around jarrett allens name but cavs would need player value probably so unless theres a 3 teamer idk and how they feel about chet at 4 and allen at 5.
The Capela idea is really interesting actually. They can afford him, probably costs 1 first only, and would make a big difference. I like that a lot.
I actually don’t know if you can decline an option and still get them in restricted free agency. I think they become unrestricted then. You could just extend them though.
I see your point on Bridges. I don’t think in his last 2 years though that they’ll be able to right the ship and then they risk losing him. You get Giddey and you get a lotto talent for two year, and whatever you extend him for. Thoughts?
The Jazz are gonna have to trade Lauri they just went 31-51 good for 12th in the west and Houston is on the rise and I think San Antainto is good for an ascention to the top of the west like we had
@@ballinwitac2258 I mean that’s a really logical way to look at that so I hear ya. Utah generally doesn’t ever blow things up, and that’s why we did the rebuild like this. They are one of like 4 franchises that subscribes to the idea of “we always try to win”. Which is great for culture but it can be hard to build an elite product. When you do get the talent though it’s phenomenal!
@@_AVC_ the new orleans pelicans did it with herb jones. They declined his team option and gave him like 4 yrs 55 mil.
I agree the nets are in a terrible position. I dont see them being contenders but from what ive seen the jazz is they also are trying to win. The nets getting a pg they have needed since splitting there big 3 is big but they are also losing offense they need as they were already a bottom 6 offense. Maybe trade simmons big contract for some depth pieces/shooting. But at that point why not just build around bridges with what u have. No matter what they are without their own picks so being bad does nothing but lose sales in revenue
@@ballinwitac2258 i agree with you. Although i do think the spurs aint ready just yet. They can still use another yr or 2 to develop. They have picks and salary to trade for someone sure but then ur gonna be stuck in a competitive western conference. Like u mentioned the rockets, but u got the grizzlies who should be healthy and every team this yr 1-10 in west will be competitive. Just dont know the jazz fo agrees
Awesome video man can tell you put a lot of time into it!
Haha I try to not plan it out s ton because I want people to see my entire thought process but these take about 1.5 hours to film. I try to really think it through logically. I really appreciate the compliment!
We need a 3 pt shooting rebounder who can defend
That’s a tall ask 😅, if those guys were just readily available then yeah sure sounds great haha.
Drummond, how about Dennis Rodman.
Wait what? 😂
Don’t change…just grow!!!❤
This is a totally fair take! There is a great argument for just letting this group grow together!
They need a rebounder and another scorer
@@Vasco224 Rebounder for sure. Someone with some weight to go along with it haha. I think you’ll see development in scoring so I don’t think it’s a must but it would be nice!
I think they draft a center or pick up a center and move Chet to four. Lauri,Jarret. And then use the 12 for a long wing player
Yeah I keep seeing move Chet to the 4 and that idea really confuses me. Like I know he can shoot but I think more goes into this than that. There is a concept we talk about called player utility (same as the theory of utility in economics). I think the Utility of Chet at the 4 decreases his value enough to where it isn’t worth it, even if you get a good center.
I do think you’re right that they will target a big this offseason though, it’s clearly a hole on the team. I just think it’ll be more of a role player.
@@_AVC_ He has always been a 4, even in College. The idea would be to draft a stretch 5. Like Kyle Flip fits into the offense perfectly. Giddy could be traded and draft picks for Lauri which always fits the stretch that can rebound. I don’t see us wining a ring without 2 7footers.
@@_AVC_ getting out played by Derek Lively is unacceptable, imagine what the top centers would do to Chet. He must come down and play the 4
@@Dirtybyrd2xx Okay a lot going on there I’ll try to dissect it all.
I think you mean to say Chet should have always been a 4. He’s always played center. I still don’t know why we want him there I think he’s good where he’s at so I guess I’ll want to hear your idea with it.
Flip really doesn’t fit what the Thunder currently do at all. The Thunder lived this whole season by having 5 dudes that can put the ball on the floor and attack close outs. Flip isn’t that type of player. If you want just a pick and pop guy then sure that is probably the hope with him.
I like trading Giddey, if you can get Lauri then great but Utah is pretty insistent that he’s sticking around. Having two dynamic 7 footers would be cool though. I don’t think you NEED it but I think every team would like that haha.
@@_AVC_ at Gonzaga Chet was a 4, Drew Timme Played Center. He’s more fitted for a four
Great video overall. I believe the starting 5 should be caso, shai, jdub, (new pf) chet.
Josh and lu should be traded along with picks to bring in the new pf. Then sign a back up center and pg. Kenny is also a valuable asset.
Ousmane could earn that pf spot if he is ready. They believe in his development but wont rush it, so another pf to ease him in would make sense.
And YESSS I LOVED THE SALAUN PICK. If not him, i know it’s a frontcourt player that presti likes.
I appreciate it! I personally wouldn’t trade Dort but I guess if the right player is available then it’s whatever haha.