Airbus' big mistake with the A380 was not to develop an A390 with it that would have only 2 engines. Sure that wasn't possible at the time but they could have designed the wings ready to take just 2 so when engines developed enough. Also it wouldn't have to have fantastic take off performance in the early models. The A340 was then a success and when the sun set on it, the co-developed A330 became a star performer.
This is a Badley designed aircraft, its designed to suit Boeing, NOT the customers. The future is single isle with three or four engines for hybrid technology. Just build a new, updated 757 and makes some cash...at least they fly.
@@donpierce4829 Don't think so. In the last chapter he is very positive about the 777x . He says the plane has many problems but once it will enter service it will revolutionnize the aviation industry !
@@guysterges1382 This guy probably never seen the inside of and airplane. His headlines are all full of crap. All planes have some problems when they are being developed!!!
I don't understand why the wing tips don't fold down rather than up. That way they wouldn't need amazing hydrolics to fold and unfold them. Airflow would do that for you and all you'd need is a stopper to stop them folding the other way.
@@michaelpillingnow ground equipment issues at the aprons, parking stands… the amount of collisions nowadays with planes parked is high enough, surely the folding winglets would be on the news also if they did so like that. You would think GSE drivers are careful and received instructions on how to operate, seems otherwise
The BIG problem Boeing are working on now is the one with the thrust-links of the engines of the 777X. Because of the cracks in them they discovered in the summer the whole test fleet is grounded for now. I thought you had some news about it here, but nothing .....,It isn't even mentionned !
@@michaelshore2300 Exactly ! Some news: They have installed a new version of the thrust links on one of the 777X (was shown on Paine Airport twitter). So surely or hopefully they will be testing begin 2025 .
@@FLIGAVIA it’s more than just a folding wingtip… until now Airbus with their A350 has a huge lead and less delays than Boeing. Who delivers first, which engine saves more fuel and thus money, which plane requires less maintenance and changing parts, which plane has more technology in the flightdeck, which one offers better cabin and cargo space, these are things that customers really look into, the folding winglet isn’t a breakthrough innovation, that has been done on navy carrier planes many decades ago.
They could have developed a clean sheet design in this same time period. The moral:dont waste time and money re-engineering old and outdated current designs
The 777X is a white elephant for Boeing. An airplane the market doesn't need or really want. It's too big and Boeing can't even get its long overdue Max 7 and Max 10s certified by the FAA, much less bring another new airplane in the fold, one with little demand. Southwest, United, American and Delta are hurting waiting on their Max 7/10s. The legacy 777 was already a perfect airplane, especially the 300ER model which killed off the 747-8i. Airlines don't want bigger, they want smaller to pursue the growing long and thin demand. A neo of the current 777 would've sufficed to counter the A350, but instead Boeing opted to jump the shark with the 777X. The 787-3 would've been (and still could be) a perfect and versatile middle of the market replacement. Sort of like a modern day B767-200ER or A310-300ET. Since they've all but lost out most of the fmr. 757 customer base to Airbus on the narrow body medium/long&thin with 321neo/XLR, the 787-3 is the way and it wouldn't be a new program, but a new variant. That would be too rational though for Boeing, Airbus is destroying them. Sad fall from grace for a great American company.
There something problem after BOEING 777X in BIG TROUBLE than before, Jeju air flight 2216 BOEING 737-800 crash in Muan Airport South Korea as I heard today in Tik Tok when my father told me about happened as Jeju air flight 2216 BOEING 737-800 crash in Muan Airport South Korea.
The South Korea crash was nothing to do with the airplane. Inadequate maintenance. Poor pilot training in Emergency Procedures. And dumb airport design. You know that all 737's in service perform over 7,000 safe landings per year. You probably don't. Don't let the facts get in the way of your desire to see others fail. You are a sick person my friend.
@@DennisMerwood I'm sorry to say that I will never get on a plane with Korean pilots. There are very strong cultural reasons why they cannot do teamwork especially in an emergency. It's not their fault, you can't override a whole lifetime of cultural learning in a split second.
@@michaelpillingnow South Korea for such a small country and amount of flights flown has an abysmal airline transport safety record. That has been going on decades. It was at a crisis level in the 90s and has only marginally improved since then. The main flag carrier has largely fixed the human factors (cultural/seniority deference) but it clearly hasn't trickled down to Asiana and the discount carriers. Only country in the world with western-like living standards but with 3rd world airline safety. You couldn't pay me to fly on a Korean carrier either. The Jeju crash is very similar to the Pakistan A320 crash in 2020. Inconceivable airmanship.
Psst. It uses an overwhelming majority of imported/western components. That supply is getting cut off by the incoming US administration. China is at least a decade plus (or more) away from having a mature wholly domestic engine and avionics/sub-systems program for civil aviation. It takes decades to develop that know-how. Even Russia is ahead of China in engines and avionics. Without western engines and avionics the COMACs would be nowhere. Even the ARJ program relies on cannabilized/repurposed MD tooling from the license MD program, and yep, western engines and avionics. Boeing may have its issues, but China is the least of them -- it's a customer, not a near term competitor.
It is very telling that a derivative 777 takes longer to develop and deliver than the original airplane. But then again, the 777X is more complex with it's composite wings (fully baked composite structure, not simply composite skin panels like Airbus does), folding wingtips, etc., not to mention the wonderful gift of Covid adding to the delay. This is going to be a great airplane, but will take at least until 2026 to deliver. It WILL be worth the wait, however irritating for its customers.
The 350 is made of composite, we don't care how.. it is profitable, not the 787 and it is efficient and economical for airlines... It is the best WIDE BODY currently and by far... 300 orders in 2023 and the 1000 will replace the 777 300 when they have to be retired... The 777X sausage is more expensive, heavier, will consume more than expected and will cost more in maintenance... This plane is already outdated even though it is not even certified...
Logically a mismanaged company can not be a great company. It may have been a great company, it might even become a great company again, but presently it is just a mismanaged company.
WAS a great company. A sad fall from grace. The 787 is a good airplane, but the MD hacks after the merger turned Boeing from an engineering company to a profit above all machine. As such they outsourced and sold off a lot of vertical integration to low grade 3rd party contractors, hence the teething issues with the 787. They've mostly resolved the big problems there by having to re-acquire their former internal supply chain, and the MAX is actually a decent airplane now -- but at old Boeing both these programs would've been on point from the start. The 777X will sink the company in its current form if they go through with it. Barring a major reshift/reform, Airbus will be eating their lunch for the next decade or more.
@@ELcinegatto87 The MAX is 70 years old, it is a shortened 707 cell completely unsuited to current engines and avionics...And we have seen the result since the crashes.The MAX cockpit is so outdated that we cannot install the mandatory EICAS on all new planes because of the crashes of this plane precisely ... "Do as I say but not as I do."..
No sh*t it's in trouble.! I'll be obsolete by the time it gets certified, if it ever does? Boeing could have built a "Clean Sheet" aircraft by now and dumped this piece of crap money pit.!!
Only low-information internet Keyboard Warriors sitting at home in their mother's basement think this plane is a piece of crap! The same clowns who said the 747 would be obsolete by the time it gets certified, if it ever does. These folk LOVE to see people fail. They need Mental health care.
This "update" reveals virtually nothing new, is full of filler and wasted my time. It reveals that the title of the video was nothing but click bait.
Never again will I waste time watching this AI channel. It was literally nothing new and the title tells the opposite tale. Pure garbage.
I would suggest Singapore Airlines to cancel its order for 31 777X and operate more Airbus A350s instead.
This video seems like a scratched vinyl record playing over and over and over the same track again and again. Waste of time.
Airbus gave up the A380 but they could transfer many new technologies and skills into the A350 program.
A 350 is more technologically advanced than A 380. Leading technological program, for both, was anyway Eurofighter [constant] development.
Airbus' big mistake with the A380 was not to develop an A390 with it that would have only 2 engines. Sure that wasn't possible at the time but they could have designed the wings ready to take just 2 so when engines developed enough. Also it wouldn't have to have fantastic take off performance in the early models. The A340 was then a success and when the sun set on it, the co-developed A330 became a star performer.
So true A350 is going to be boing killer
Boeing 777 200/300 built by Boeing. Boeing 777X built by McDonnell Douglas
No news at all. Just positive thoughts based on nothing real.😢
This is a Badley designed aircraft, its designed to suit Boeing, NOT the customers. The future is single isle with three or four engines for hybrid technology. Just build a new, updated 757 and makes some cash...at least they fly.
Need a Launch Customer in order for ANY aircraft manufacturer to take on design/development.
How and when did Ortberg reveal the 777X is in BIG TROUBLE? And what did he say the solution is?
This Guy is just anti Boeing!!!
@@donpierce4829 Don't think so. In the last chapter he is very positive about the 777x . He says the plane has many problems but once it will enter service it will revolutionnize the aviation industry !
@@guysterges1382 This guy probably never seen the inside of and airplane. His headlines are all full of crap. All planes have some problems when they are being developed!!!
@@donpierce4829 Boeing's BoD is more anti-Boeing with their greed.
The U.S. Navy has been folding wings for years!
Life of soldiers are nothing compared to civilians's.
I don't understand why the wing tips don't fold down rather than up. That way they wouldn't need amazing hydrolics to fold and unfold them. Airflow would do that for you and all you'd need is a stopper to stop them folding the other way.
@@michaelpillingnow ground equipment issues at the aprons, parking stands… the amount of collisions nowadays with planes parked is high enough, surely the folding winglets would be on the news also if they did so like that. You would think GSE drivers are careful and received instructions on how to operate, seems otherwise
Es wird Zeit, dass die endlich perfekt fliegt.
The BIG problem Boeing are working on now is the one with the thrust-links of the engines of the 777X.
Because of the cracks in them they discovered in the summer the whole test fleet is grounded for now.
I thought you had some news about it here, but nothing .....,It isn't even mentionned !
NO answers ,no solutions so NO news
@@michaelshore2300 Exactly !
Some news: They have installed a new version of the thrust links on one of the 777X (was shown on Paine Airport twitter). So surely or hopefully they will be testing begin 2025 .
Outdated if ever ready to sell
This video focused a lot on the wingtips, I don’t think it’s gonna make Boeing come back to compete strong with Airbus…
So your opinions are…
@@FLIGAVIA it’s more than just a folding wingtip… until now Airbus with their A350 has a huge lead and less delays than Boeing. Who delivers first, which engine saves more fuel and thus money, which plane requires less maintenance and changing parts, which plane has more technology in the flightdeck, which one offers better cabin and cargo space, these are things that customers really look into, the folding winglet isn’t a breakthrough innovation, that has been done on navy carrier planes many decades ago.
Boeing must survive, the 777X will be The Solution!
At a very high price for Americans, for sure.😂
They could have developed a clean sheet design in this same time period. The moral:dont waste time and money re-engineering old and outdated current designs
You don't have a clue, Bill!
They have no choice.
They need to get their head out of their bottom.
Better that you get your head out of your bottom.
Mr. Unemployed Keyboard Warrior!
The 777X is a white elephant for Boeing. An airplane the market doesn't need or really want. It's too big and Boeing can't even get its long overdue Max 7 and Max 10s certified by the FAA, much less bring another new airplane in the fold, one with little demand. Southwest, United, American and Delta are hurting waiting on their Max 7/10s. The legacy 777 was already a perfect airplane, especially the 300ER model which killed off the 747-8i. Airlines don't want bigger, they want smaller to pursue the growing long and thin demand. A neo of the current 777 would've sufficed to counter the A350, but instead Boeing opted to jump the shark with the 777X. The 787-3 would've been (and still could be) a perfect and versatile middle of the market replacement. Sort of like a modern day B767-200ER or A310-300ET. Since they've all but lost out most of the fmr. 757 customer base to Airbus on the narrow body medium/long&thin with 321neo/XLR, the 787-3 is the way and it wouldn't be a new program, but a new variant. That would be too rational though for Boeing, Airbus is destroying them. Sad fall from grace for a great American company.
But apparently the airlines still want it : there are 515 orders for the 777X + 116 options
Yes
There something problem after BOEING 777X in BIG TROUBLE than before, Jeju air flight 2216 BOEING 737-800 crash in Muan Airport South Korea as I heard today in Tik Tok when my father told me about happened as Jeju air flight 2216 BOEING 737-800 crash in Muan Airport South Korea.
The South Korea crash was nothing to do with the airplane.
Inadequate maintenance. Poor pilot training in Emergency Procedures. And dumb airport design.
You know that all 737's in service perform over 7,000 safe landings per year. You probably don't.
Don't let the facts get in the way of your desire to see others fail. You are a sick person my friend.
@@DennisMerwood I'm sorry to say that I will never get on a plane with Korean pilots. There are very strong cultural reasons why they cannot do teamwork especially in an emergency. It's not their fault, you can't override a whole lifetime of cultural learning in a split second.
@@michaelpillingnow South Korea for such a small country and amount of flights flown has an abysmal airline transport safety record. That has been going on decades. It was at a crisis level in the 90s and has only marginally improved since then. The main flag carrier has largely fixed the human factors (cultural/seniority deference) but it clearly hasn't trickled down to Asiana and the discount carriers. Only country in the world with western-like living standards but with 3rd world airline safety. You couldn't pay me to fly on a Korean carrier either. The Jeju crash is very similar to the Pakistan A320 crash in 2020. Inconceivable airmanship.
Boeing couldn’t get a worse reputation.
🙂↕️
No, the public aren't interested in this, or any other Boeing product for that bad reputation they earned over the years.
It's time for the C919 /C929 to shine
Psst. It uses an overwhelming majority of imported/western components. That supply is getting cut off by the incoming US administration. China is at least a decade plus (or more) away from having a mature wholly domestic engine and avionics/sub-systems program for civil aviation. It takes decades to develop that know-how. Even Russia is ahead of China in engines and avionics. Without western engines and avionics the COMACs would be nowhere. Even the ARJ program relies on cannabilized/repurposed MD tooling from the license MD program, and yep, western engines and avionics. Boeing may have its issues, but China is the least of them -- it's a customer, not a near term competitor.
It is very telling that a derivative 777 takes longer to develop and deliver than the original airplane. But then again, the 777X is more complex with it's composite wings (fully baked composite structure, not simply composite skin panels like Airbus does), folding wingtips, etc., not to mention the wonderful gift of Covid adding to the delay. This is going to be a great airplane, but will take at least until 2026 to deliver. It WILL be worth the wait, however irritating for its customers.
let's see. In any way, Airbus can't fill the potential demand for the 777X.
The 350 is made of composite, we don't care how.. it is profitable, not the 787 and it is efficient and economical for airlines... It is the best WIDE BODY currently and by far... 300 orders in 2023 and the 1000 will replace the 777 300 when they have to be retired... The 777X sausage is more expensive, heavier, will consume more than expected and will cost more in maintenance... This plane is already outdated even though it is not even certified...
@@augustiner3821 Great to see a person who does not want to see thousands of American families on the bread line.
@@guillaumedupont7565 Just another Boeing basher. And Airbus fanboy!
Boeing is a great company that has been mismanaged. Still produces a great product!
Logically a mismanaged company can not be a great company. It may have been a great company, it might even become a great company again, but presently it is just a mismanaged company.
MAX is a great product ? LOL !! Only in your dreams..And he 787 nightmareliner ? Sell at a loss ..
WAS a great company. A sad fall from grace. The 787 is a good airplane, but the MD hacks after the merger turned Boeing from an engineering company to a profit above all machine. As such they outsourced and sold off a lot of vertical integration to low grade 3rd party contractors, hence the teething issues with the 787. They've mostly resolved the big problems there by having to re-acquire their former internal supply chain, and the MAX is actually a decent airplane now -- but at old Boeing both these programs would've been on point from the start. The 777X will sink the company in its current form if they go through with it. Barring a major reshift/reform, Airbus will be eating their lunch for the next decade or more.
@@ELcinegatto87 The MAX is 70 years old, it is a shortened 707 cell completely unsuited to current engines and avionics...And we have seen the result since the crashes.The MAX cockpit is so outdated that we cannot install the mandatory EICAS on all new planes because of the crashes of this plane precisely ... "Do as I say but not as I do."..
Your full of BS Boeing isn't in big troubles with the 777 they just got a big order!!! You need to fold up your tent and find another subject!!!
Poor video, poor editing
Airbus A350 1000 has won again, boing 777x.
To this day the A350-1000 has about 315 orders, while the 777X has 515 orders+116 more options.
Get this youtube channel out
777x will never fly
No sh*t it's in trouble.! I'll be obsolete by the time it gets certified, if it ever does? Boeing could have built a "Clean Sheet" aircraft by now and dumped this piece of crap money pit.!!
Only low-information internet Keyboard Warriors sitting at home in their mother's basement think this plane is a piece of crap!
The same clowns who said the 747 would be obsolete by the time it gets certified, if it ever does.
These folk LOVE to see people fail. They need Mental health care.