She was okay with Eleven but her chemistry with Twelve was amazing. I'd say they are my favorite combination besides Ten/Donna and Nine/Rose. (I only know some "Classic Who" stories, I'm sorry.)
It was nice when they were just bickering. Danny added a dynamic that brought the relationship dangerously close to toxicity (like, Clara has been in the Doctor's time stream and was there at the most crucial moment in the time war and met the war Doctor, but STILL let Danny insult him and slander him as some upitty officer that sent people to do his dirty work). I liked series 9 much better with Danny and the toxicity gone, but honestly I much prefered the version with Nardole. It felt like a similar back and forth without the power moves and constantly trying to be the Doctor.
@@ThePCguy17 that's correct, and the Doctor was married at the time, too, so it's a good thing that little detail was remembered. I think they're more like a couple of squabbling siblings, personally.
@@MaryAnnNytowl The doctor is an old man (sometimes) in a young body. Sometimes it's even a young female body, these days. He's more like her quirky grandad humoring all her fun habits and eccentricities. He...doesn't always make that immediately obvious to his companions.
I know a lot of people had problems with Clara, but I always loved her. Yes, she had her flaws, but that's what made her more believable and compelling to me than most companions. I'll probably get flamed for this (I get flamed regularly when I comment on anything related to Doctor Who), but I think many people's objections stemmed from sexism. Heaven forbid a woman should call a man on his BS and forcefully offer up her opinions. Were I the doctor, I would want nothing less from them.
@@chelseaabel1202 I actually agree with this sort of. I didn't really have a problem with Clara with 11, but she was FAR more interesting with 12. Their relationship was just more dynamic and fun than just her being "the impossible girl" where she was some time mystery to solve.
@@olandir that’s probably bc she barely got any time w 11 😭😭 like if we had gotten a full season at the least i’d have loved it. i didn’t even know people had issues with clara but i feel like people have issues w all the companions in one way or another
Um I didn’t like Clara but that’s not due to the reasons you said sexism and not liking a women putting a man’s ego in check seeing as Evelyn in the audios was the one that did that and she is one of my favourite companions
I love 12 and clara! They really are "soulmates but the fucked up kind" lmaoo great ship ngl. "Soulmates who'd do anything for each other (derogatory)" Fav relationship on the show tho (behind the doctor and river 💖)
Yes that's the sad truth of the doctor situation and, a real questioning truth. A far off galaxy's with lots of different challenge characters and, maybe less understanding not so many goodies . A traffic show.🙂
I like Clara. She really should have stayed dead, though. And the Doctor's grief should have come from fact she died trying to emulate him, than him thinking she's special enough to fight the Time Lords for IMMEDIATELY after he just saved them.
12th Doctor and Clara was couple, real truth couple (yes,I know River, but River was his duty in some way) Clara and 12th had chemistry same situation (love) had 9th and Rose and when I said couple I mean love, because love its not mean sex
Clara is the Divine Feminine. Pure, Sacred, Loving and Angelic ❤❤😘🥰. The future belongs to Her. She brought something so special to the show that since she left, DW has never been the same.
😂 guard? Guhd or god? Was this a joke? Is there really a sub level 11 and they are down there where light doesn’t shine? Am I supposed be on sub-level 10? What’s this level for? Weary gods? Is there a god? Black gray. Too scary. What’s after overexposure?
This jerk turned into Hank McGee didn’t he? I remember that hair. It was very silvery. There was a tiny bit of Casper’s silver lead hair on baby it probably has that texture. Oh lol that why I liked tin dolls so much because they are clean and when and if you washed hair in silver lead water it doesn’t get greasy. The water we have now has silver lead in it but my hair is normal keratin hair so it breaks down and turns waxy. There is no oil production either. Yeah being tin makes you feel clean. That’s why tin dolls are happier because they are so clean. That’s the body 12th is in. Half of my silver lead face cream is missing. Now I know who the culprit is. Clara is in a body so dirty that even Pluto doesn’t want it there so they are down on sub 11 level. She was tin too before wasn’t she? She was Ella before Cat used it and she turned Clara? She’s that dirty because she ate Peter’s …? I’m shivering from fear to even imagine what’s on sub 12th. 🧟♀️
I see this is how the Mephisto dolls turn into self proclaimed gods. There isn’t a god but I’ve got the power of darkness so either I fade or I turn into an abomination. Choose wisely. Lady Galadriel aka 12th (it’s the same doll too) almost touched the One Ring but felt it’s overwhelming power and realized that he couldn’t bind with it and said:”I will fade”. He never committed a sin so abominable as what the demon dolls do. Eating the private parts of a stronger rival. Eating the parts of another is a sin but having the ability to grow your own and eating your own turns you into a human doll. Keith did that. He produced Casper who is pure light. Keith you’ve got to focus and reduce the dark matter or you may get moved down to sub 11 too.
We had kittens with Clara and Peter. The kittens are gingers and they are dominating. Gingers can produce calicos with other cats but Gingers are always male. After the cockroach demon stole Clara’s body we could no longer use Clara as a vessel. And the demon used Clara’s body to eat Peter’s private parts. The Clara demon is so dark even our own solar system cannot tolerate it. Our own dolls produced in this solar system usually go to one of the planets. Why is Joe down there with them? Joe you used the One Ring even after I warned you not to use it. It’s a Pluto made and do you recall what happened to little bunny 🐰 when he didn’t listen and insisted on going to Pluto? I still have 骷髅头. It’s so sad looking. The One Ring sucked your light out and turned Silver Lead. It’s returned to its former state after you retrieved your white soul.
We got the word kids, Keith from the German word Kinder, kid. You’ve got to have at least some light to remain human. If you don’t produce light yourself, you are an emotional vampire. That is the difference between Joe and the blue whites. Joe is a white soul and he is warm and gives light. The Germans wanted to get some of that light from him but that’s lazy and greedy! You’ve got to learn to produce light yourself. You hacked Trubrook yourself didn’t you? Why??? The Vaults contain your white souls that we brought back from Andromeda. I was going to retrieve them but the file is corrupted. After Cat ate her own doll she became really dark. You can hear her cussing in the album Ghostlights. “I can taste your regret” and it was David’s regret. It was David that wanted to get attacked so he could leave the doll’s body. Didn’t even poor little Calim know how to go black and leave and he told you when you were otters together? Clara the demon doesn’t remember anything about Baby Otter. I still have Baby Otter 🦦 He’s adorable. David you’ve got to learn not to be such a puss and got to learn to warm up yourself and not just tag along and absorb light from me or Joe or Casper.
Keith you too. Sean too. You’ve got to learn to find the light within. Shine crazy diamond shine! Once you find the light within there is no more dying. Death once dead, there is no more dying then.
I personally preferred their relationship when it was 11 and Clara. It was just more peaceful to me that things were going wrong but it didn’t matter because they were together. With 12 and Clara, while it’s funny to watch, it kinda makes me sad to see how differently it has become. It’s not as “nice” I guess but it’s just a personal feeling.
This couple was actually why I stopped watching Doctor Who. Their interaction is repulsive. In a single episode they yelled at each other to shut up for 3 times and I've never seen any other episode ever again. Why travel together if you can't stand each other? Also, why would it be fun to watch people hate each other? The banter was really not cute to me...
Their relationship was based around knowing each other well enough to be comfortable calling the other out when needed, and playfully insulting each other like an old married couple.
Just because I didn't enjoy it it doesn't mean I didn't get the intention of the writers. It's obvious how they meant it. I disliked the interaction and found it repulsive, because it didn't translate well to me. Like I just said, it was a banter but it wasn't cute to me as it was to you. I advise you to refrain from telling people "you don't get it" just because they don't like something you do like :)
"Nothing is more important than my egomania!"
"Right. You actually just said that."
This is one of my favorite Doctor/Companion interactions ever.
When I read this, I thought it was the doctor saying the "nothing is more important" bit.
And then Clara’s rebuttal “ YOU, never mention that again!”
Doctor’s response- silent, curious head scratching*
People might hate or love the character, but no one can deny the fucking raw talent in Jenna Coleman’s performances
No yeah she's freaking amazing. Wish I could see her in more projects
She was okay with Eleven but her chemistry with Twelve was amazing. I'd say they are my favorite combination besides Ten/Donna and Nine/Rose. (I only know some "Classic Who" stories, I'm sorry.)
For me it's 10/Donna 12/Clara and 11/Ponds
Yea, they started off a bit rocky but both Eleven and Vastra talked some sense into her.
@@olandir wat about 9th and rose
It was nice when they were just bickering. Danny added a dynamic that brought the relationship dangerously close to toxicity (like, Clara has been in the Doctor's time stream and was there at the most crucial moment in the time war and met the war Doctor, but STILL let Danny insult him and slander him as some upitty officer that sent people to do his dirty work). I liked series 9 much better with Danny and the toxicity gone, but honestly I much prefered the version with Nardole. It felt like a similar back and forth without the power moves and constantly trying to be the Doctor.
For me The 11th Doctor was better with Amy and Rory.
Jenna fucking killed it with this moment 1:28
These two are like a married couple
divorce pending
Ironic, considering that one of the first things he said was that he wasn't her boyfriend and it had been a mistake for 11 to get so close.
Um, I think River would have something to say about that. 😄
@@ThePCguy17 that's correct, and the Doctor was married at the time, too, so it's a good thing that little detail was remembered. I think they're more like a couple of squabbling siblings, personally.
@@MaryAnnNytowl The doctor is an old man (sometimes) in a young body. Sometimes it's even a young female body, these days. He's more like her quirky grandad humoring all her fun habits and eccentricities. He...doesn't always make that immediately obvious to his companions.
I miss Capaldi’s run as the Doctor so much.
Only Doctor Who can put the line "Humans are not Otters" and we are all fine with that xD Love that show
Clara and Twelve were hilarious when they started bickering like an old married couple.
'Soo you recognise me then' 😂😂😂 12 is definitely the funniest doctor
Clara: “Can you explain your plan without the words ‘Sonic’ ‘Screwdriver’?”
I mean its nice that they pointed out how much they are using the sonic
I miss these interactions.
“Can you explain your plan without using the words: Sonic Screwdriver?”
Quite possibly the only statement by Clara I could get on board with! XD
"Don't smile, I will smile first" the way she said that whole line sounds like a child trying to sound cool, it's so hilarious
The scene with Robin in the cell is hilarious!!
Clara really was one of the best of the new companies, writing issues withstanding
I know a lot of people had problems with Clara, but I always loved her. Yes, she had her flaws, but that's what made her more believable and compelling to me than most companions. I'll probably get flamed for this (I get flamed regularly when I comment on anything related to Doctor Who), but I think many people's objections stemmed from sexism. Heaven forbid a woman should call a man on his BS and forcefully offer up her opinions. Were I the doctor, I would want nothing less from them.
The problems I had with her all stemmed from her run with 11, once 12 came along, I loved the their dynamic and I loved Clara more
@@chelseaabel1202 I actually agree with this sort of. I didn't really have a problem with Clara with 11, but she was FAR more interesting with 12. Their relationship was just more dynamic and fun than just her being "the impossible girl" where she was some time mystery to solve.
I totally loved Clara and she could call me out on my BS any day of the week.
@@olandir that’s probably bc she barely got any time w 11 😭😭 like if we had gotten a full season at the least i’d have loved it. i didn’t even know people had issues with clara but i feel like people have issues w all the companions in one way or another
Um I didn’t like Clara but that’s not due to the reasons you said sexism and not liking a women putting a man’s ego in check seeing as Evelyn in the audios was the one that did that and she is one of my favourite companions
I love 12 and clara! They really are "soulmates but the fucked up kind" lmaoo great ship ngl.
"Soulmates who'd do anything for each other (derogatory)"
Fav relationship on the show tho (behind the doctor and river 💖)
you may just have given me an idea
I wouldn't say there that close but they were definitely really close friends 👁️👄👁️
I love these two together so much, but I have to wonder how much of what Twelve complained about Eleven noticed😆😆
Clara and Twelve were brilliant together, like a couple of squabbling siblings, LOL!
The Doctor beefing with Robin Hood is one of the best things that ever happened to this show.
I love how the a Doctor argue it’s funny & having a competition with Robin Hood 😂
It’s always the screwdriver.
Needed this today! Hilarious!
"Nothing is more important than my egomania!"
😎
“Right, you actually said that!”
1:30 why did this reminded me of daniel howell wtf
me too!! i miss him. take me back to the dan and phil days
Peter was best in his first series before he softened up. He was such a dick I love him
Will always love 12 and Clara and nothing with convince me otherwise
Had a shitty day. That actuallt cheered me up a little.
I love clara!
If Saward were script editor
Yes that's the sad truth of the doctor situation and, a real questioning truth. A far off galaxy's with lots of different challenge characters and, maybe less understanding not so many goodies . A traffic show.🙂
he was of cause correct about what sort of person placed the ad in the paper.
I like Clara. She really should have stayed dead, though. And the Doctor's grief should have come from fact she died trying to emulate him, than him thinking she's special enough to fight the Time Lords for IMMEDIATELY after he just saved them.
The others were companions. Clara was a partner.
0:09 Is that a camera man?
@James Bolton I'm start to get concerned at how common that phrase is becoming.
He followed them into the shell and still had his camera with him. What a dedicated madlad...
12th Doctor and Clara was couple, real truth couple (yes,I know River, but River was his duty in some way) Clara and 12th had chemistry
same situation (love) had 9th and Rose
and when I said couple I mean love, because love its not mean sex
Amy we miss you
lol
Clara is the Divine Feminine. Pure, Sacred, Loving and Angelic ❤❤😘🥰. The future belongs to Her. She brought something so special to the show that since she left, DW has never been the same.
Ge I actually miss Amelia pond
😂 guard? Guhd or god? Was this a joke? Is there really a sub level 11 and they are down there where light doesn’t shine? Am I supposed be on sub-level 10? What’s this level for? Weary gods? Is there a god? Black gray. Too scary. What’s after overexposure?
This jerk turned into Hank McGee didn’t he? I remember that hair. It was very silvery. There was a tiny bit of Casper’s silver lead hair on baby it probably has that texture. Oh lol that why I liked tin dolls so much because they are clean and when and if you washed hair in silver lead water it doesn’t get greasy. The water we have now has silver lead in it but my hair is normal keratin hair so it breaks down and turns waxy. There is no oil production either. Yeah being tin makes you feel clean. That’s why tin dolls are happier because they are so clean. That’s the body 12th is in. Half of my silver lead face cream is missing. Now I know who the culprit is. Clara is in a body so dirty that even Pluto doesn’t want it there so they are down on sub 11 level. She was tin too before wasn’t she? She was Ella before Cat used it and she turned Clara? She’s that dirty because she ate Peter’s …? I’m shivering from fear to even imagine what’s on sub 12th. 🧟♀️
I see this is how the Mephisto dolls turn into self proclaimed gods. There isn’t a god but I’ve got the power of darkness so either I fade or I turn into an abomination. Choose wisely. Lady Galadriel aka 12th (it’s the same doll too) almost touched the One Ring but felt it’s overwhelming power and realized that he couldn’t bind with it and said:”I will fade”. He never committed a sin so abominable as what the demon dolls do. Eating the private parts of a stronger rival. Eating the parts of another is a sin but having the ability to grow your own and eating your own turns you into a human doll. Keith did that. He produced Casper who is pure light. Keith you’ve got to focus and reduce the dark matter or you may get moved down to sub 11 too.
We had kittens with Clara and Peter. The kittens are gingers and they are dominating. Gingers can produce calicos with other cats but Gingers are always male. After the cockroach demon stole Clara’s body we could no longer use Clara as a vessel. And the demon used Clara’s body to eat Peter’s private parts. The Clara demon is so dark even our own solar system cannot tolerate it. Our own dolls produced in this solar system usually go to one of the planets. Why is Joe down there with them? Joe you used the One Ring even after I warned you not to use it. It’s a Pluto made and do you recall what happened to little bunny 🐰 when he didn’t listen and insisted on going to Pluto? I still have 骷髅头. It’s so sad looking. The One Ring sucked your light out and turned Silver Lead. It’s returned to its former state after you retrieved your white soul.
We got the word kids, Keith from the German word Kinder, kid. You’ve got to have at least some light to remain human. If you don’t produce light yourself, you are an emotional vampire. That is the difference between Joe and the blue whites. Joe is a white soul and he is warm and gives light. The Germans wanted to get some of that light from him but that’s lazy and greedy! You’ve got to learn to produce light yourself. You hacked Trubrook yourself didn’t you? Why??? The Vaults contain your white souls that we brought back from Andromeda. I was going to retrieve them but the file is corrupted. After Cat ate her own doll she became really dark. You can hear her cussing in the album Ghostlights. “I can taste your regret” and it was David’s regret. It was David that wanted to get attacked so he could leave the doll’s body. Didn’t even poor little Calim know how to go black and leave and he told you when you were otters together? Clara the demon doesn’t remember anything about Baby Otter. I still have Baby Otter 🦦 He’s adorable. David you’ve got to learn not to be such a puss and got to learn to warm up yourself and not just tag along and absorb light from me or Joe or Casper.
Keith you too. Sean too. You’ve got to learn to find the light within. Shine crazy diamond shine! Once you find the light within there is no more dying. Death once dead, there is no more dying then.
I personally preferred their relationship when it was 11 and Clara. It was just more peaceful to me that things were going wrong but it didn’t matter because they were together. With 12 and Clara, while it’s funny to watch, it kinda makes me sad to see how differently it has become. It’s not as “nice” I guess but it’s just a personal feeling.
Clara and the Doctor never argued...Clara whined, and the Doctor lost his nerve...
God this was a bad season wasn’t it
This couple was actually why I stopped watching Doctor Who. Their interaction is repulsive. In a single episode they yelled at each other to shut up for 3 times and I've never seen any other episode ever again. Why travel together if you can't stand each other? Also, why would it be fun to watch people hate each other? The banter was really not cute to me...
you just didnt get it. their relationship showed that despite how much they may have annoyed each other at first, they always cared about each other.
Their relationship was based around knowing each other well enough to be comfortable calling the other out when needed, and playfully insulting each other like an old married couple.
Just because I didn't enjoy it it doesn't mean I didn't get the intention of the writers. It's obvious how they meant it. I disliked the interaction and found it repulsive, because it didn't translate well to me. Like I just said, it was a banter but it wasn't cute to me as it was to you. I advise you to refrain from telling people "you don't get it" just because they don't like something you do like :)
@@sanbilge im sorry, i didnt mean to be rude. it's not like me to react in such a way. thank you for your calm & patient response.
Jenna coleman is such a beautiful woman