Skyrim's Cut Arena
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Episode 1 of Skyrim - The Cutting Room Floor, an in-depth investigation into the cut content design and development of The Elder Scrolls Skyrim. In today's episode we take a look at Skyrim's cut arena called the Windhelm Pit, featuring cut characters Huki, Brond, Liesl, Endorfin and more, while also exploring the location's link to the Dark Brotherhood quest mourning never comes.
00:00 The Pit
02:41 Bloodworks
06:42 In The Jailhouse Now
09:45 Bloodsport
12:30 Mourning Never Comes
17:49 Benkum the Bookie
20:59 Cut Conversations
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You would think after so many re-releases, they would add stuff back in that was cut due to time constraints
@@Roxor030yeah and also probably because the game couldn’t handle it became engine. I mean you gotta think about it. This game was released for Xbox 360 and PS3 at the time. Yes there is the PC as well but like I said it again think about it when this game was released, it was released in 2011 for older hardware generation consoles
You think they give a shit?
@@masterofdisaster26 shit excuse, mods do so much more than a simple arena
A somewhat different subject, but something I remember wondering when the Special Edition originally came out was why they didn't make a deal with the Unofficial Patch team to include their fixes, or something.
I mean, yeah you could just nab bug fix mods from the in-game mod browser and the version Bethesda would ship would undoubtedly never be updated, but for anyone who jumps into these games without looking at mods it'd be a hell of a lot better than the rather bare number of fixes (speaking in terms of "included in the .esm/.bsa"-level changes, rather than core engine things) that Special Edition originally shipped with.
@Vargen Fjorton I can't say I'm personally familiar with any drama with the Unofficial Patch teams or their leaders, nor for that matter can I say that I really want to learn more.
I meant more in general how come Bethesda didn't do more to try to incorporate fan fixes into the Special Edition, if they weren't going to do it themselves. Wouldn't necessarily have to had been the Unofficial Skyrim Patch, could be any number of bug fix mods at the time.
Though, the way you describe it, it could be that they've learned their lesson now, but I guess we'll see whenever Starfield releases.
I do like how the "Holds" mod is attempting to reintegrate this cut feature into the main game.
All i was hoping he would say throughout this video is thankfully you can experience this through the pitt restoration mod 🥺
There was a mod for OG Skyrim that kinda sorta restored it - it didn't restore the original NPCs or the concept of fighting for your freedom, but it did reuse the pit cell and let you fight in matches in it. Unfortunately, the author only ever released it on Steam workshop so it never got ported to Skyrim SE as far as I know.
@@kvant13 Yes! THE FACTION PIT FIGHTER mod, a modder ported the complete mod with travel on SE (also works on my AE 1.6.640) just search for "faction pit fighter"
It just adds npcs and exterior. Nothing else.
Does not even remove placeholder spectators.
There is a reason why there are so many Skyrim arena mods, and The Arena in Oblivion was one of the game's highlights. It'd be wonderful if developers had time to implement such amazing locations.
I always loved the Arena in Oblivion, it gave me the feeling of glory whenever I'd cut down my opponent compared to some stinky bandit or daedra. I gotta go back and finish Oblivion, man, Would've loved to see it come back in Skyrim but of well... maybe in the next game
Funnily enough, there’s a mod by Arthmoor AKA the Unofficial Patch guy that adds in an arena and a questline alongside it, though surprisingly it’s located in Riften’s sewer network and is considered more of an underground fight club with both rich and poor patrons coming to watch and bet on the fights rather than a lawfully sanctioned gladiatorial competition. I’m honestly just glad somebody decided to give us an arena to fight in since I too missed Oblivion’s arena.
Triangle City is now doing Skyrim. We'll have content for at least ten millennia.
This Dark Brotherhood quest feels more interesting than what we got in a final game! It's a shame the pit didn't make it.
P.s. If you want an arena expirience in Skyrim, try Ravengate mod. It adds an underground arena in Riften with plenty of tough npc's to fight. Each has their own character and items. The mod is a bit tough around the edges, but still pretty awesome.
Also one of the chapters being titled "In the Jailhouse Now" is a great refrence, even if its not a refrence it made me happy.
Always interesting to see Skyrim content. Feels like there had to have been a lot of things people wanted to do with it that ultimately didn't make the cut.
I think its pretty crazy how the beginning scripts work if you place Huki in the world, but when you agree to fight the scripts stop working
Its really sad to see something so close to being added but just left because Todd wanted 11.11.11 to be the release
He announced that date in 08, the devs probably shat themselves having a deadline out of nowhere whilst in preproduction
I genuinely wonder how the mass appeal of skyrim would be different if it was released without having so much content scaled back and cut. Did making quests/locations shorter and more straightforward help? Would it be remembered more like the Witcher 3 if the devs had the time and resources to pull everything off? Who knows
It's a shame this never was finished I'd be willing to pay like 15 bucks for this if it was creation Club or just an outright expansion but they moved on from actually working on Skyrim
Glad to see you are finally getting to Skyrim cut content. I have played and modded Skyrim to death and back, and as much as I loved it, there was definitely aspects lacking to it.
Ooo, ES content from Triangle! Honestly wouldn't mind seeing you delve into ES 3-5 like you have FO stuff. That'd be another several years of content right there.
Oh man, i’m still learning new things about skyrim. Great video and discovery! This looks like it would’ve been so cool. I wish they’d not have cut it. Maybe in ES6…
hey glad you did this my friend
I've been waiting for some more Skyrim content
God your videos are such a treat
"Endorfin" lmao like endorphins. Genius, Bethesda.
It's painfully bad lol
Eggcellent video dude.
Ayye cut Skyrim content, excited
I really hope ES VI reintroduces an arena. Maybe even mounted combat, like jousts
Jousts would be really cool
But then they would also have to reintroduce spears, so I don’t know
@@fietehermans9903 Could just have lances as a joist specific weapon, but that would be a lot of work for something that many players might not use
@@TriangleCity wouldn't be the first time Bethesda spent time on something no one would ever use. The nirnroot quest is a great example
It warms my heart to be in the first 1000 views. God I love this channel!
I played that and the area you say is snow in the arena was a gliched area that could not be fixed and at the time it took to much memory. That is why it was removed.
Funny how Bethesda been cutting arenas ever since Oblivion. Fallout 3 The Pitt doesn't really count - it was a minor quest, not a proper arena.
The Pit in Skyrim, Combat Zone in Fallout 4... Man, even Fallout 76 has an arena, in form of a quest, though.
Nah they've been cutting Arena's since Arena lol
Oh sweet Skyrim content
Thank you for the Sargent vatred, venture bros doesn’t get enough love
I'm so excited about the movie :))
@@TriangleCity me too man, go team venture! ✌️✌️
Ultimately though a Skyrim cut content video was unexpectedly not on the cutting room floor
I only learnt about The Chill the other day (I guess I'm usually well behaved in Winterhold)
How much of this unused content was used in the Wabbajack quest? It looks very similar to the arena fight in it.
I am pretty sure I saw a mod that had this Pit. I don't know which one it is exactly but it was fully functional
That was s a very short break you're taking, I was expecting 1 month or something 😂
I did always find it weird alain a bandit leader wears regular upper-class clothes
So we could have a had an Adoring Fan in Skyrim
>Progressively difficult fights
Oh please. Just shout at them.
I wonder what will happen to the Starfield arena
At least the arena itself physically appeared in Fallout 4 unlike with Fallout 3 and Skyrim
He'll Yeah
New Game
More Cut Content
13:41 "Re teil" ?
Retail
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is there cool cut content in fallout 4
There's a lot of cool cut content from F4 :)
No Adoring Fan?
No remnant of one at least
@@TriangleCity That's a shame, I used to enjoy making him suffer in Oblivion.
There's going to be some form of an Adoring Fan in Starfield at least.
@@AlchemistOfNirnroot If there isn't it would be easy enough to make one.
What is with Bethesda and cut combat arenas?
I guess gladiator fights are a trope they have a thing for, but have historically considered it a non-critical feature worth cutting when the pressure is on.
In a way this actually goes all the way back to the very first Elder Scrolls, which was supposed to be a straight-up fantasy gladiator game but ultimately turned into an RPG with no such arenas to fight in (to my recollection anyway).
@@LonelySpaceDetective I think it was called Arena because the game world was a metaphoric arena.
@@AlchemistOfNirnroot That is true from what I recall, but it's my understanding that it's something they came up with to justify the name they already trademarked and/or was on the boxart they already commissioned from back when the game was focused on gladiatorial combat.
@@AlchemistOfNirnrootYeah because cover art was pricey back then and they already had the skimpy gladiatrix with ARENA over her head drawn up.
God it was practically finished. Wtf whyd they cut it??
A lot of the scripting was done, but there's still a lot missing. I'm guessing they weren't going to delay the release date and realized there just wasn't time to finish the Pit alongside everything else that still needed work, so they cut it out, covered it up and switched up the Dark Brotherhood questline to make the deadline.
@@TriangleCity imagine if they did delay the game. How different it coulda been
Oh no, it's Skyrim! It won't last. Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Elder Scrolls Fans and Fallout Fans! Or Cyberpunk fans and Fallout Fans! Or Metro Fans and Fallout Fans! Or Obsidian Fans and other Bethesda Fans! Damn Fallout Fans! They ruined Fallout!