This is such an amazing scene. It's the death of Vash's innocence and the ideal he lived by. By killing Legato he realized that Rem wasn't right. She wasn't wrong either though. Sometimes you have to kill the spider to save the butterfly. It shows that Vash could have saved others by killing one person. What's sad is his ideal got Wolfwood killed too. Wolfwood finally came around to Vash's belief after watching him for so long and after killing a kid. And it got him killed.
I remember years ago when my brother and I discussed this, the true tragedy of Legato Bluesummers. Everything that Vash was put through in the series was to bring him to this moment, where he'd have Legato at his mercy and be forced to make the conscious and deliberate decision to take someone else's life. Legato's sole purpose, his reason for existence that Knives gave to him, was to die by Vash's hand so that he would finally understand that sometimes you have to kill the spider to save the butterflies. When Vash pulled that trigger, he didn't just kill Legato; he killed his innocence.
Y'know, I never thought of it like that. I can see that, as an added cruelty, Knives would want Vash to make that connection: by taking someone else's life of his own free will, even someone as evil as Legato, Vash was in essence killing the memory of Rem that said "No one has the right to take the life of another." And Knives wanted Vash to suffer as he learned this lesson.
He is always playing with children because he wants to go back to the time when he was most happy, being on the ship wirh his brother and not having any pain or responsibilities. Then he met maryl and she gave him a new sense of happiness. One that lasted beyond an adolescent kinship but real love. She fought for him and nearlu died for him several times because of Rem's ideology. So Vash now has gone past the youthful prankster who loves eating doughnuts and plays with kids, he now had to kill to survive and that was the gung ho guns entire meaning. To kill vash's innocence
For anyone who doesn't know, the reason Lagato can control Vash is because he has Vash's arm, the one that Knives shot off. Knives created him from Vash's DNA for the sole purpose of making Vash suffer.
I thought he was just a psychopath that Knives hired and attached Vash's arm onto him.... But he is actually a clone of Vash?! That makes it even creepier/cooler.
In the manga it's just a power he has. In fact the already has it when Knives first meets him. It's a bit weird in the manga that he is nearly as strong as Vash and Knives, but his storyline is way better there.
@@yourworstentertainment983 I guess that in anime as deep as Trigun, Bluesummers doesn't really need that edgy tear-jerking backstory from manga. His whole purpose was to be Knives' will on the Gunsmoke, since in anime Knives obviously sees humanity's pitiful state as an already good result, and the only thing that buggers him is that his own brother doesn't grow up. When you think about it,byou may actually notice that Knives wasn't even as edgy-hateful of humanity in the anime, he even gave Wolfwood and his teacher a second chance by letting orphans and kids from all the Gunsmoke go to the well protected and flourishing place, as they would obviously grow up into something somehow acceptable by Knives. The whole bloodshed in the anime was started with the sole purpose of reeducating Vash, and since Knives doesn't care about humanity that much, he simply uses people's lives and deaths to teach Vash some lessons. I also want to note that in every encounter in the anime with his brother it was Vash who resorted to violence without a thought, which is, in my opinion, makes the story less black-and-whitish.
Trigun begun as a comic countrapart of Cowboy Bebop. Somehow, it have one of the crazy mindfucks in anime (at the same level as Evangelion and Lain). Probably one of the most underrated moments in anime.
Just got to this part in the show. Very incredible scene. Legato really gives vash absolutely no option here, even though vash is so desperate to hold to his philosophy, even he can't ignore that this kill has to be justified. He would absolutely have been in the wrong if he didn't kill legato here. It's an important lesson for a fighter for justice and freedom such as vash, that bloodshed is going to happen, and it's far preferable for someone like legato to die here rather than Milly, Meryl and the people. However this decision still destroys vash......
Exactly, The Vash we saw the *ENTIRE* show up to this point.... Died... Ceased to be, He had to admit... Sometimes... just sometimes..."You *DO* Have to kill the Spider to save the butterflies." and that "No, Sometimes, Someone *DOES* have the right to take the life of another." .... Essentially saying that.... Knives was right, and Rem was wrong.... The Vash we knew.... Died when he pulled that trigger. And for the rest of Vash's life, he will have to deal with the pain and sorrow of all the lives he could have saved if he had *ACTUALLY* killed the spiders.... He was wrong, and a "Bad Guy" for the vast majority of the show.... We don't want to believe it, Vash didn't want to believe it, but Legato and Knives knew... And finally.... Vash does to....
Nah. Vash continued to push forward even after almost killing knives. He decided to start a new life, one based on his own logic and learn from what Wolfwood and the others had taught him theoughout his journey. He didnt have to kill to live yet he didn't have to die to be happy. He went through severe depression and almost died but lived for maryl's sake, not live for Rem's logic any longer.
@@bobbyewing311 Exactly, The Vash we saw the *ENTIRE* show up to this point.... Died... Ceased to be, He had to admit... Sometimes... just sometimes..."You *DO* Have to kill the Spider to save the butterflies." and that "No, Sometimes, Someone *DOES* have the right to take the life of another." .... Essentially saying that.... Knives was right, and Rem was wrong.... The Vash we knew.... Died when he pulled that trigger. And for the rest of Vash's life, he will have to deal with the pain and sorrow of all the lives he could have saved if he had *ACTUALLY* killed the spiders.... He was wrong, and a "Bad Guy" for the vast majority of the show.... We don't want to believe it, Vash didn't want to believe it, but Legato and Knives knew... And finally.... Vash does to....
@@bobbyewing311 Welp, actually nope. Old "Vash Stampede" died right there, at that moment after killing Legato. He realised that both Wolfwood and Legato were right: some people don't deserve to live and must be killed to save innocent. At the end Vash realised that Knives point of view was the right one and Legato was only a tool to help Vash understand it. In the end Vash had to fight Knives not due to different philosophies, but due to a fact that Knives saw humanity as a cancer, parasites to killed. Scene after the duel, when Vash throws away his red duster/jacket, he throws away Rem's ideals, picks up Knifes and starts new journey on his own path.
@@lxdead5585 Thats what I said. I may have not said it in so many words but that's what I said. The ideology he adapted at the end of the series was his OWN logic not what Rem had believed in. He realized that he had to follow his own path and find some kind of middle ground because fighting tooth and nail for rigid ideology has gotten people killed. Had Vash fought 100% at the beginning of the series, perhaps there would have been less suffering. he saw what he was doing to Maryl and Millie. He saw how HE caused Wolfwood's death by making HIM adopt HIS ideology. He saw that he was wrong to force his way of life on others and that HE himself would find his own path and perhaps save Knives from himself.
Vash has a strict view on maintaining his pacifism. It was his last connection to his mother figure, since her ideals passed to him. Vash still has his innocence. Killing Legato is him killing his innocence and his last connection to his mom. The villains want this to make Vash suffer eternally.
@@MerDuke Vash’s brother hates humanity. He finds it disgusting and basically wants to nuke it so it is just him and his brother in the world. Vash, on the other hand, loves humanity and believes everyone deserves to live and their own happiness. Because of his beliefs, Vash’s brother wants him to suffer and go back to his side before he kills humanity.
The spider serves no purpose only to take not to give the butterfly gives to help the world keep spinning so knives sees the spiders as in bad people in existence equal to the butterflies because they’re both living things but that’s not the case because if it was all spiders they would eat each other although I’m curious what would happen to the butterflies?
All butterflies would lead into over population and then starvation as the huge numbers of butterflies would consume all available food which would eventually kill them all off or cause an evolution to possibly make cannibal butterflies so they could survive
You're clearly a _Speciesist_ (joking version of "racist" but for different species) but honestly, spiders aren't that bad of a species, and do a lot more good than you would think. Yes, they are a "Predator"... but so the Vast majority of Nature... including us. So it kills to eat... what exactly do *WE* do again? lol
The complete soundtrack has been recently uploaded to Spotify, so you can search it there. I think it was added this year because I remember searching Trigun OST back in 2019 and i didn't find anything.
@@BigTArmada To you maybe, but Vash destroyed any semblance of Rem, his mother figure when he killed Legato. His idealism and vow to never kill was his last connection to her. Irrational? maybe. Selfish? I don't think so.
@@teriosshadow17 it's just silly not to call that selfish. Vash is very clearly the only one who can deal with that monster. So other people should suffer so he can maintain his idea of a connection? Changing his understanding of the world and how he fits into it doesn't make him any less close to Rem, and it certainly doesn't mean he disrespects her or doesn't love her. It's crazy selfish, it's the denial of growth and responsibilities to preserve a comfortable ideal.
@@BigTArmada Thats kinda the point because it shows that Vash takes Rem's words literally and has to learn that he cannot always save everyone. In Vash's mind he thinks Rem will disappear forever.
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I love how when Vash finally breaks, Legato knows it and closes his eyes ready to accept his fate.
Damn. The piercing shot and the way Legato just slumps over dead. Awesome scene.
It reminds you how easy it is to end a human life...
@@amaulana090 that's deep
Such a heartbreaking scene for Vash, but also somewhat peaceful for Legato. All that suffering he’s been through can finally end.
he won
he is the only villain that managed to defeat vash
Most OG moment in anime
"I kill the spiders to save the butterflies"
Big facts
This is such an amazing scene. It's the death of Vash's innocence and the ideal he lived by. By killing Legato he realized that Rem wasn't right. She wasn't wrong either though. Sometimes you have to kill the spider to save the butterfly.
It shows that Vash could have saved others by killing one person. What's sad is his ideal got Wolfwood killed too. Wolfwood finally came around to Vash's belief after watching him for so long and after killing a kid. And it got him killed.
Merle and Millie = the Butterfly
Legato = the Spider
Vash = Knives
I remember years ago when my brother and I discussed this, the true tragedy of Legato Bluesummers. Everything that Vash was put through in the series was to bring him to this moment, where he'd have Legato at his mercy and be forced to make the conscious and deliberate decision to take someone else's life. Legato's sole purpose, his reason for existence that Knives gave to him, was to die by Vash's hand so that he would finally understand that sometimes you have to kill the spider to save the butterflies. When Vash pulled that trigger, he didn't just kill Legato; he killed his innocence.
TheKamikazeCam I just screenshotted this sir.
TheKamikazeCam well said my friend. :-)
TheKamikazeCam which is why I would have loved to see a season 2 where Vash takes on a darker role
not just that he killed the memory of Rem Vash lost her again this time forever
Y'know, I never thought of it like that. I can see that, as an added cruelty, Knives would want Vash to make that connection: by taking someone else's life of his own free will, even someone as evil as Legato, Vash was in essence killing the memory of Rem that said "No one has the right to take the life of another." And Knives wanted Vash to suffer as he learned this lesson.
Whenever I look at Vash, I literally just see the little boy he was when he was younger. He just seems so innocent despite his playful demeanor
He is always playing with children because he wants to go back to the time when he was most happy, being on the ship wirh his brother and not having any pain or responsibilities. Then he met maryl and she gave him a new sense of happiness. One that lasted beyond an adolescent kinship but real love. She fought for him and nearlu died for him several times because of Rem's ideology. So Vash now has gone past the youthful prankster who loves eating doughnuts and plays with kids, he now had to kill to survive and that was the gung ho guns entire meaning. To kill vash's innocence
One of the few times where a villain won by dying. Legato is still one of the best. He was such an interesting villain.
For anyone who doesn't know, the reason Lagato can control Vash is because he has Vash's arm, the one that Knives shot off. Knives created him from Vash's DNA for the sole purpose of making Vash suffer.
Holy sh/t
For the anima though, it's a bit different in the manga.
@@iamhungey12345 something, something, sex slave. Something, something, brain wires
I thought he was just a psychopath that Knives hired and attached Vash's arm onto him....
But he is actually a clone of Vash?! That makes it even creepier/cooler.
In the manga it's just a power he has. In fact the already has it when Knives first meets him.
It's a bit weird in the manga that he is nearly as strong as Vash and Knives, but his storyline is way better there.
We often crave shows of action, destruction and death...but this series wanted to prove otherwise 😭
I have watched a GREAT deal of anime. And in my humble opinion, I feel that the antagonist most deserving of a WHOLE backstory is Legato.
this comment is really late, but you can read the manga and find out about legato's backstory ;)
@@yourworstentertainment983 haha you're good, I did it but I still wish they could animate it or even make a spin off for it
@mini fuzz true, I wish trigun would receive the brotherhood treatment
@@yourworstentertainment983 good news. Trigun is coming back! But sadly not the same VAs
@@yourworstentertainment983 I guess that in anime as deep as Trigun, Bluesummers doesn't really need that edgy tear-jerking backstory from manga. His whole purpose was to be Knives' will on the Gunsmoke, since in anime Knives obviously sees humanity's pitiful state as an already good result, and the only thing that buggers him is that his own brother doesn't grow up. When you think about it,byou may actually notice that Knives wasn't even as edgy-hateful of humanity in the anime, he even gave Wolfwood and his teacher a second chance by letting orphans and kids from all the Gunsmoke go to the well protected and flourishing place, as they would obviously grow up into something somehow acceptable by Knives. The whole bloodshed in the anime was started with the sole purpose of reeducating Vash, and since Knives doesn't care about humanity that much, he simply uses people's lives and deaths to teach Vash some lessons.
I also want to note that in every encounter in the anime with his brother it was Vash who resorted to violence without a thought, which is, in my opinion, makes the story less black-and-whitish.
Trigun begun as a comic countrapart of Cowboy Bebop. Somehow, it have one of the crazy mindfucks in anime (at the same level as Evangelion and Lain). Probably one of the most underrated moments in anime.
same
It's a classic. Not an underrated anime.
Just got to this part in the show. Very incredible scene. Legato really gives vash absolutely no option here, even though vash is so desperate to hold to his philosophy, even he can't ignore that this kill has to be justified. He would absolutely have been in the wrong if he didn't kill legato here. It's an important lesson for a fighter for justice and freedom such as vash, that bloodshed is going to happen, and it's far preferable for someone like legato to die here rather than Milly, Meryl and the people. However this decision still destroys vash......
And no matter if he killed him or not, it's all part of knives fucked up plan to ruin vashs life.... fuck knives!
0:44 Pain: Could this be one of my people
Great Scene!!! Thank you for the upload.
I was waiting this moment from the second episode!
Seki Toshihiko is an amazing choice always
That was the best way to get Vash
This anime took the:
“I’m getting tired of this shit”
To a whole new level
I get what u mean.
Legato Bluesummers, the most evil character i have ever seen.
Saif Alharbi Oh yea and what exactly makes him so evil?
Not evil, he was pretty nice really. He was a sad existence, but trust me I'd also love to be able to control minds.
The Major He literally killed so many people, just so he could mentally break Vash, and die. He is a trash human being, Knives too.
You prolly never heard griffith
@@jakewalter1378 His intention's dude.
RIP Vash the Stampede
Exactly, The Vash we saw the *ENTIRE* show up to this point.... Died... Ceased to be, He had to admit... Sometimes... just sometimes..."You *DO* Have to kill the Spider to save the butterflies." and that "No, Sometimes, Someone *DOES* have the right to take the life of another." .... Essentially saying that.... Knives was right, and Rem was wrong.... The Vash we knew.... Died when he pulled that trigger. And for the rest of Vash's life, he will have to deal with the pain and sorrow of all the lives he could have saved if he had *ACTUALLY* killed the spiders.... He was wrong, and a "Bad Guy" for the vast majority of the show.... We don't want to believe it, Vash didn't want to believe it, but Legato and Knives knew... And finally.... Vash does to....
Damn,the entire purpose of legatos being was just to fuck up vash
Afaik, Iori Yagami's hairstyle and appearance was inspired from Legato
He was right vash died that day. Inside
Nah. Vash continued to push forward even after almost killing knives. He decided to start a new life, one based on his own logic and learn from what Wolfwood and the others had taught him theoughout his journey. He didnt have to kill to live yet he didn't have to die to be happy. He went through severe depression and almost died but lived for maryl's sake, not live for Rem's logic any longer.
@@bobbyewing311 Exactly, The Vash we saw the *ENTIRE* show up to this point.... Died... Ceased to be, He had to admit... Sometimes... just sometimes..."You *DO* Have to kill the Spider to save the butterflies." and that "No, Sometimes, Someone *DOES* have the right to take the life of another." .... Essentially saying that.... Knives was right, and Rem was wrong.... The Vash we knew.... Died when he pulled that trigger. And for the rest of Vash's life, he will have to deal with the pain and sorrow of all the lives he could have saved if he had *ACTUALLY* killed the spiders.... He was wrong, and a "Bad Guy" for the vast majority of the show.... We don't want to believe it, Vash didn't want to believe it, but Legato and Knives knew... And finally.... Vash does to....
@@bobbyewing311 Welp, actually nope. Old "Vash Stampede" died right there, at that moment after killing Legato. He realised that both Wolfwood and Legato were right: some people don't deserve to live and must be killed to save innocent. At the end Vash realised that Knives point of view was the right one and Legato was only a tool to help Vash understand it.
In the end Vash had to fight Knives not due to different philosophies, but due to a fact that Knives saw humanity as a cancer, parasites to killed.
Scene after the duel, when Vash throws away his red duster/jacket, he throws away Rem's ideals, picks up Knifes and starts new journey on his own path.
@@lxdead5585 Thats what I said. I may have not said it in so many words but that's what I said. The ideology he adapted at the end of the series was his OWN logic not what Rem had believed in. He realized that he had to follow his own path and find some kind of middle ground because fighting tooth and nail for rigid ideology has gotten people killed. Had Vash fought 100% at the beginning of the series, perhaps there would have been less suffering. he saw what he was doing to Maryl and Millie. He saw how HE caused Wolfwood's death by making HIM adopt HIS ideology. He saw that he was wrong to force his way of life on others and that HE himself would find his own path and perhaps save Knives from himself.
@@bobbyewing311 does the manga expands more on this?
Even thought I would like a final fight, this kinda felt better.
Very heartbreaking
This is my favorite moment in any form of media I’ve consumed. Meruem vs Netero and Gintoki vs Takasugi make the top 3
whats the song at the start
I beg you, tell me the name of the music in this moment
Suna no hoshi and lost planet.
@@josemiranda-tf5lu thank you very much!!!!!!
4:41 - BANG
Based on the anime watcher’s comments, why was it so important for this Legato dude to make Vash kill?
Vash has a strict view on maintaining his pacifism. It was his last connection to his mother figure, since her ideals passed to him. Vash still has his innocence. Killing Legato is him killing his innocence and his last connection to his mom. The villains want this to make Vash suffer eternally.
@@NANAbananabanar Thanks, but what has he done for his enemies to want to damn him like this?
@@MerDuke Vash’s brother hates humanity. He finds it disgusting and basically wants to nuke it so it is just him and his brother in the world. Vash, on the other hand, loves humanity and believes everyone deserves to live and their own happiness. Because of his beliefs, Vash’s brother wants him to suffer and go back to his side before he kills humanity.
@@NANAbananabanar alright, thanks for clarifying!
The best trigun
..reminds me of the movie Se7en...
I love this scene the only thing I don’t like is that legato fell the wrong side when he was killed
history
precies gezang van een mooi lied
he made me do it 😭
aww i love legato
This version of Legato and how this plays out is unironically better than the manga. It's more thematically coherent even.
For a guy Who said that Life is meaningless, his death sure that meaning.
The spider serves no purpose only to take not to give the butterfly gives to help the world keep spinning so knives sees the spiders as in bad people in existence equal to the butterflies because they’re both living things but that’s not the case because if it was all spiders they would eat each other although I’m curious what would happen to the butterflies?
All butterflies would lead into over population and then starvation as the huge numbers of butterflies would consume all available food which would eventually kill them all off or cause an evolution to possibly make cannibal butterflies so they could survive
You're clearly a _Speciesist_ (joking version of "racist" but for different species) but honestly, spiders aren't that bad of a species, and do a lot more good than you would think. Yes, they are a "Predator"... but so the Vast majority of Nature... including us. So it kills to eat... what exactly do *WE* do again? lol
Didn’t vash break a guys neck game in the first three episodes?
Lol
Remember when anime wasn't all about boobs and stupid lolis and candy eye?
OST?
Suna no Hoshi
@@tatzuu3239 i have been waiting for you....
The complete soundtrack has been recently uploaded to Spotify, so you can search it there. I think it was added this year because I remember searching Trigun OST back in 2019 and i didn't find anything.
Remember, Legato is voiced by Dio
Nihilism, breaker of Pacifism.
Pacifism is overrated anyway. And in the end it doesn't work.
@@angryman1206 being the harder path doesn't make it the wrong one.
@@VivaLaDnDLogs Rambo 4. That is my reply to that.
@@angryman1206 Avatar Aang vs Fire Lord Ozai.
@@VivaLaDnDLogs You do realize the only reason Aang pulled that off is because the Lion Turtle gave him a machina right.
Kino
Imagine a person with your left arm torturing you. Dunno y vash didn't reattach his own arm after this.
The fact that he waits so long for his own sensibilities is kinda low key selfish
Nobody has the right to take another persons life
@@nothingthenothing2938 incorrect and naive
@@BigTArmada To you maybe, but Vash destroyed any semblance of Rem, his mother figure when he killed Legato. His idealism and vow to never kill was his last connection to her. Irrational? maybe. Selfish? I don't think so.
@@teriosshadow17 it's just silly not to call that selfish. Vash is very clearly the only one who can deal with that monster. So other people should suffer so he can maintain his idea of a connection? Changing his understanding of the world and how he fits into it doesn't make him any less close to Rem, and it certainly doesn't mean he disrespects her or doesn't love her. It's crazy selfish, it's the denial of growth and responsibilities to preserve a comfortable ideal.
@@BigTArmada Thats kinda the point because it shows that Vash takes Rem's words literally and has to learn that he cannot always save everyone. In Vash's mind he thinks Rem will disappear forever.
Such power wasted on a naive fool, i hope he got to live happily with his two girlfriends at least
え、、？？
Legato broke Vash legacy