@@FogofWar I am I just had bad luck with the transports I bought a couple boxes of them and they were broken even the replacement ones were. But I’m still looking forward to the new stuff and maybe one day they’ll come out with a plastic version
The Bundeswehr gave up their presence in Shilo somewhere around 2000. It was mainly used by the armoured forces, I have seen many pictures of Leopard 1s and Marder IFVs. I don't know, if those were kept in storage in Canada or if they were shipped there by every unit. In Germany it wasn't really possible to do life fire exercised with armoured units and Canada (much like you down under) had plenty of space to do so. Those changes to some extend, after the reunification, since east Germany had much more free space and of course the downsizing of the army did its part. During my time in the army I have seen a few training grounds and the life fire for our artillery was very limited, even in the 2000s.
@@FogofWar so I can just say how it worked for our NATO excercises in Norway. I was part of an artillery battalion (equipped with the fh155-1) and we had to ship our trucks up to Tromsö , where we had older outdated 105mm howitzers (and some other vehicles) in storage. So we packed all the booze we could fit in the trucks, because no one can afford drinking up there.
@@el-cee 45 - As a Canadian Army reservist I used to train in the same training areas as those guys when the GATES shut down for the winter training cycle. We even did one EX with a couple of Leo 1's back when. Anyhow, they cycled about 1/3 of the kit back to the Bundesrepublik every year for refurbishment and upgrading, etc. Over time they cycled in Leo 2s, although I can;t recall if they were the latest and greatest or older models. I think they were pretty much state of the art at the time. It was always quite a treat to drive past the German vehicle compound for us kit starved Canadian Army Reservists ! My favourite experience was siting in the engine well of a leo 2 that had it pulled for some reason thinking it'd make a great hot tub... They cycled something like 4 or 5 kampfgruppes through every summer at the high point of operations. A Panzer battalion and a panzer grenadiere battalion would make up each rotation, and each roto was 3 weeks. Basic skills week 1, more advanced, then full battle group ops I understand. I atteneded at least one Open House type weekend where they took people for rides in the Marders or Leos, also quite a treat for some locals who had never seen a tank before.
The Canadian Home Forces are the ones I'm most looking forward to. I was in when we used that stuff. It'll be quite a challenge to match up against BMPs or even BTRs, but what the heck ! 🙂
Great review as Always Harry… I don’t have any armies in this book Yet… but I already have some wants out of it… the Red Dawn Canadian aspect, The French forces are appealing for the European Theatre, and the Australian forces with the Skyhawks are very tempting… I feel in love with the Skyhawk in my Teens when I saw it in the first TOP GUN movie… definitely need to get some of those… hopefully Battlefront incorporated a plastic model kit for it … I’m not looking forward to resin aircraft… I’m really looking forward to the redo of Oil Wars… I have wanted that book since I first saw it… but I keep hearing that the redo with the upgrades is coming soon… I would like to see an expansion to the Pacific Theater… with possibly a re ignition of the Korean War
I hoped for the AMX-30 Brenus. Just for the look. But I think it doesn't add much additional punch for the french. I also guess making a Bernus plastic (upgrade?) kit was not as easy as it was with the T-72 or T-64. Anyway, the Leclerc is a great new addition. My (self made) multi-national Nordic Joint Fast Respond Brigade (NJFRB) will get a pln as support.
I had a similar hope for the Canadian Leopard C2 (upgraded Leopard 1s) rather than the Leopard 2, but like the Brenus, this wouldn't add much and the Canadians would remain undergunned.
Trekan - What would it take to add the Brenus upgrade to the existing AMX-30 kit? It would be definitely a new turret with the ERA. There could be add-on ERA blocks for the hull. Would it need a new gun with thermal sleeves? There's the remote weapon station. Seems like it might be doable as an upgrade kit. But the Leclerc gives the French a big boost.
Could you go over the fact that the unit cards have included allies in them? ie the Belgium unit cards has both the west German cards and British cards. Could you show the catalogue unit card pack for Canada, Dutch and ANZAC? Could you confirm if the Canadian unit card pack comes with the allied cards?
OK. I had a look. Only the Belgian card pack seems to come with Allies. Certainly the Canadian and French card packs just have the cards for that nation.
So what jackanory have BF come up with for Belgian Leo 1 BE having uparmoured turrets ,which they never got ? Have a look at the Leo 1A5 BE , which they are selling to an eastern European country now .
I think BF just went with the closest turret they had. Belgium’s tanks were upgraded to the Leopard 1A5 standard for fire control and sights, just not the armour package. But the plastic kit doesn’t have an unarmoured option for the cast turret, so you can’t build it that way from the box without scratch building.
Kia ora Harry, I'm afraid I have to rate this video as a conditional fail because you missed the very important changes to French recon completely. Even their new VBL vehicle. It seems almost as if that never happened other than a fleeting glimpse at circa 15m of the catalog pages. It is great to have all the other details of course and that might allow a limited pass, but you have seriously failed me with the lack of the French recon data. At least that might have had similar treatment to the changes to Aussie recon which we like a lot of course. Please update the French recon ASAP in a supplement or re-cut of this video.
Hi Sofia. It appears I did miss the VBL for the French. That is entirely my bad. The forces overview in this was only meant to be an overview. I have more detailed look at the forces coming up in later videos. Now I see the VBL and the recon formations, I’ll be sure to cover them in detail when I talk French for Wave 3.
Very pleased to have actual rules for my RNZAF Skyhawks instead of them being "counts as Harriers".
Oh yeah me too, I have both Skyhawks and mirage flights as count as harriers! (Rule Of Cool)
It is nice to get Skyhawks. Not sure about the points cost for Maverick though.
Excellent video Harry! I've been incredibly impressed by this book, there is so much content. Must resist the temptation to start something new ...
Thank you. Hopefully you can paint something for the new forces. That might suck you in.
very pumped to add to my Canucks and re-role some of my 4CMBG grunts to FMC. Thanks for the great review.
You're welcome!
Thanks for the initial disclaimer, look forward for more about the release
It’s always best to make this sort of thing clear up-front.
Comment for the solid video and for the algorithm
Thank you.
Looking forward to Canadian and French updates!
The Canadians look great!
160 Pages....BEEFY!!!!! Very happy NATO getting a boost. Glad they included Belgium too.
It was always going to be big. Belgium is nice, but I’m expecting people are going to like the options added to Canada.
@@FogofWar very intrigued by the Canadian helicopter formation with Iltis airmobile options.
Nice can’t wait to get my French going I just really wished we could get plastic VAB transports
Plastic would have been nice. Are you looking at using the VAB T20s?
@@FogofWar I am I just had bad luck with the transports I bought a couple boxes of them and they were broken even the replacement ones were. But I’m still looking forward to the new stuff and maybe one day they’ll come out with a plastic version
Can’t wait til this comes out!
Lots of fun stuff, isn’t there!
The Bundeswehr gave up their presence in Shilo somewhere around 2000. It was mainly used by the armoured forces, I have seen many pictures of Leopard 1s and Marder IFVs. I don't know, if those were kept in storage in Canada or if they were shipped there by every unit. In Germany it wasn't really possible to do life fire exercised with armoured units and Canada (much like you down under) had plenty of space to do so. Those changes to some extend, after the reunification, since east Germany had much more free space and of course the downsizing of the army did its part.
During my time in the army I have seen a few training grounds and the life fire for our artillery was very limited, even in the 2000s.
I’m guessing having equipment stationed in-situ makes more sense than shipping units of tanks back and forth. But you never know!
@@FogofWar so I can just say how it worked for our NATO excercises in Norway. I was part of an artillery battalion (equipped with the fh155-1) and we had to ship our trucks up to Tromsö , where we had older outdated 105mm howitzers (and some other vehicles) in storage. So we packed all the booze we could fit in the trucks, because no one can afford drinking up there.
@@el-cee 45 - As a Canadian Army reservist I used to train in the same training areas as those guys when the GATES shut down for the winter training cycle. We even did one EX with a couple of Leo 1's back when.
Anyhow, they cycled about 1/3 of the kit back to the Bundesrepublik every year for refurbishment and upgrading, etc.
Over time they cycled in Leo 2s, although I can;t recall if they were the latest and greatest or older models. I think they were pretty much state of the art at the time. It was always quite a treat to drive past the German vehicle compound for us kit starved Canadian Army Reservists ! My favourite experience was siting in the engine well of a leo 2 that had it pulled for some reason thinking it'd make a great hot tub...
They cycled something like 4 or 5 kampfgruppes through every summer at the high point of operations. A Panzer battalion and a panzer grenadiere battalion would make up each rotation, and each roto was 3 weeks. Basic skills week 1, more advanced, then full battle group ops I understand.
I atteneded at least one Open House type weekend where they took people for rides in the Marders or Leos, also quite a treat for some locals who had never seen a tank before.
The Canadian Home Forces are the ones I'm most looking forward to. I was in when we used that stuff. It'll be quite a challenge to match up against BMPs or even BTRs, but what the heck ! 🙂
They do add a lot of options to Canadian forces. I’m looking forward to seeing the Grizzly and Cougar in action.
Thanks. A great look at an awesome book.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice review! Looking forward to the review of the Leclerc.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice preview. The new French tanks look sweet.
Thank you. I just wish the French tank names were easier to pronounce.
Great review as Always Harry… I don’t have any armies in this book Yet… but I already have some wants out of it… the Red Dawn Canadian aspect, The French forces are appealing for the European Theatre, and the Australian forces with the Skyhawks are very tempting… I feel in love with the Skyhawk in my Teens when I saw it in the first TOP GUN movie… definitely need to get some of those… hopefully Battlefront incorporated a plastic model kit for it … I’m not looking forward to resin aircraft… I’m really looking forward to the redo of Oil Wars… I have wanted that book since I first saw it… but I keep hearing that the redo with the upgrades is coming soon… I would like to see an expansion to the Pacific Theater… with possibly a re ignition of the Korean War
Hee hee... I already have a start on my ROK M48A5Ks, just as a "counts as" project using the US M60 list for now. :D
Eric, there are plastic Skyhawks in the correct scale if you want to give this a try. I think Platz has some. Not sure.
Looking forward to this new book. I have asked my local store to order me a copy.
Hope you enjoy it!
A nice look Harry
Thanks Callum. Happy New Year to you!
I hoped for the AMX-30 Brenus. Just for the look. But I think it doesn't add much additional punch for the french. I also guess making a Bernus plastic (upgrade?) kit was not as easy as it was with the T-72 or T-64. Anyway, the Leclerc is a great new addition. My (self made) multi-national Nordic Joint Fast Respond Brigade (NJFRB) will get a pln as support.
I had a similar hope for the Canadian Leopard C2 (upgraded Leopard 1s) rather than the Leopard 2, but like the Brenus, this wouldn't add much and the Canadians would remain undergunned.
Trekan - What would it take to add the Brenus upgrade to the existing AMX-30 kit? It would be definitely a new turret with the ERA. There could be add-on ERA blocks for the hull. Would it need a new gun with thermal sleeves? There's the remote weapon station. Seems like it might be doable as an upgrade kit. But the Leclerc gives the French a big boost.
As far as I'm concerned, I will be holding out until the release of the army list for the Duchy of Fenwick. What? Wait on! You won?
Plenty of fictional stuff coming in 2024.
Nice review
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!
Was the Panhard VBL in the book as I am sure I saw a picture with some, I would also liked to of seen the Jaguar appear for the French and British.
It is in the book. I’ll cover it more in an upcoming video on the French.
I will get the book and see if there is a viable force that I can build without having to get resin/metal kits.
Good luck with that! Most of the forces have some resin/metal.
Could you go over the fact that the unit cards have included allies in them? ie the Belgium unit cards has both the west German cards and British cards. Could you show the catalogue unit card pack for Canada, Dutch and ANZAC? Could you confirm if the Canadian unit card pack comes with the allied cards?
Ooh. I’ll have to check. I understand that is the case, but I don’t have access to the unit cards. I’ll ask BF directly and report back.
OK. I had a look. Only the Belgian card pack seems to come with Allies. Certainly the Canadian and French card packs just have the cards for that nation.
Ahh they did give the NZ Skyhawk the Kahu Maverick!
Sure did. I expect to see that on the table.
So what jackanory have BF come up with for Belgian Leo 1 BE having uparmoured turrets ,which they never got ? Have a look at the Leo 1A5 BE , which they are selling to an eastern European country now .
I think BF just went with the closest turret they had. Belgium’s tanks were upgraded to the Leopard 1A5 standard for fire control and sights, just not the armour package. But the plastic kit doesn’t have an unarmoured option for the cast turret, so you can’t build it that way from the box without scratch building.
@@FogofWar I've special ordered my Leo 1 BE from Butlers Printed Models , no extra turret armour and the imaging box on the mantlet .
@@lesp1964 Nice!
French are also getting VBLs!
Yeah. I missed that, but I’ve done an update video that includes them. Plus we’ll talk about them for the French in Wave 3.
ANZACs lol hope that painting guide for the Armour is a little more in depth then what FoW could show
Hmmm. I might see what I can do about that.
@FogofWar love ya work mate. I am looking foreward to one or two of the things announced in the Christmas cideo.
Wonder when W. Germans and Brits will get Milan 2?
It’s in the NATO Forces book. So they get them NOW!
Nice of them to include GATES.
I'm not sure what that is?
Kia ora Harry, I'm afraid I have to rate this video as a conditional fail because you missed the very important changes to French recon completely. Even their new VBL vehicle. It seems almost as if that never happened other than a fleeting glimpse at circa 15m of the catalog pages. It is great to have all the other details of course and that might allow a limited pass, but you have seriously failed me with the lack of the French recon data. At least that might have had similar treatment to the changes to Aussie recon which we like a lot of course. Please update the French recon ASAP in a supplement or re-cut of this video.
Hi Sofia. It appears I did miss the VBL for the French. That is entirely my bad. The forces overview in this was only meant to be an overview. I have more detailed look at the forces coming up in later videos. Now I see the VBL and the recon formations, I’ll be sure to cover them in detail when I talk French for Wave 3.