hmm why do i get ww1 vibe, oh wait, the brits did this lol,they kept reinforcing while the turks republican was waiting in the mountain waiting for them to land
Maintenance company is almost essential for minor powers. It's less useful for secondary and especially major powers which can just spam hundreds of military factories.
I followed Hatless Spider's insane guide for Byzantium by 1938. Basically as Greece you ally with Germany take out Albania/Italy, Austria, and the UK (declare on Lithuania) with your starting army. Then you declare on Netherlands, then Belgium, and then France. Right before you take Paris, you declare x3 on Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, and Turkey (Focus tree) so they join the Allies. Once France capitulates, all the majors are defeated and Allies lose. You can just take all cores to make Byzantium. Only thing left is to fight USSR with Germany to puppet Moscow for the Bad Romeance Achievement
you can also block amphibious crossings with even just submarines, so the Bosporus Strait is a good place to do such a thing, also strait of messina, kerch strait, all of Denmark, etc.
Imagine how the troops must felt when hearing the orders: Yo guys take that po- actually dont or nevermind take it oh never mind fall back or actually I changed my mind attack back
It works better if you delete the front line. Having the units around the port without the front line, then conrtol+right clicking gets the blue support arrow, and they wont move into the tile (you wont have to press an extra button to stop them)
The way you do it in this video needs you to stop the attack manually, do not assign orders then support attack into the port and you won't have to stop the troops manually, it's so much easier that way
@@grucci3722shift right click or control right click on specifically the unit not the tile. It forces a support attack order without a normal attack needed. The units then remain stationary after they kill off the enemy. Unless you use a frontline order ofcourse
Players will sometimes not notice either that they still got troops on the way, or think they can use the port to land troops for a assault if it looks ill or undefended.
They seriously need to fix the mentally handicapped ai because the problem with hoi4 imo is, AI is just far to easy to cheese and brainless, making singeplayer very unengaging. But multiplayer, oh god I have experienced very few games with the same amount of toxicity. And the balance is fucked, and so many tryhards with a defined meta who shit in you if you don’t know everything. Also to this date, paradox games remain broken and unstable in multiplayer.
@@ryanbraud2813 control+click the unit you are attacking, if you are doing this you must delete the frontline because the units will automatically take it
Literally exploited this since day 1, made my no focus tree Portugal playthrough bearable, this was before the Spanish focus tree was added, literally started playing when Waking the Tiger was the latest DLC.
My justification would be that it's really not that serious of a game. I also get the people who want for a more immersive experience in their playthroughs. Hope you have fun with it
@@ChillGeneral Yeah the more I've played the more it strikes me as a game that would need to be rebuilt from the ground up to be "realistic". That's why nobody bothers making historical balance once you learn the game because it heavily incentivizes you to just cheese the system.
I used this to inflict a billion casualties as socialist Czechoslovakia that had formed Austria-Hungary and just needed to get to Australia. I was at war with most of the world, including China.
I doubt Paradox's attention is really on any of these but you can roll back to previous versions of the game to have a go at some of the tricks you've been missing
It still works, i have inflicted millions casualties to enemy with this. You also can raid the enemies troops convoy route to maximize loss and equip your troops with maintenance company to capture enemies equipment. Use more ports to maximize your encirclement farm industry💪💪💪
@@anwarsaipulrohmi8279 yes I usually have separated template to encircle and get extra equipment but mid and late game most of the time you won't run out of guns
Also, no, inflicting casualties does not increase war score. Yes, this means theoretically, if you suffered no casualties, conquered the enemy yourself, and did nothing else that increased your war score, the AI would have 100% war score, leaving you with none, despite you doing all the work
Can you provide more specifics on how you're trying it? They might be getting their convoys sunk The warscore gain used to work that way but now land combat damage counts massively so you should be getting warscore
@@F.R.E.D.D2986 Well, you get most warscore via shooting down planes and encircling enemy divisions. The thing that virtually doesn't give warscore is occupying enemy provinces.
@@budibasabasik I'm gonna have to check that because I have played a lot of this game and I have found occupation to be by far, the most important aspect of it, at least in the modern versions, not the older ones.
Because not everyone is as skilled? For me just fighting the AI is hard, I still can’t do sea lion at 2,500 hours. And now I should fight other players? I am not a masochist, thank you very much
how to do support attack in this case, i saw many yt videos of people doing it so they dont need to stop units to move in province. He is using right click in this case what i need is support attack. tnx
@ I ask because I feel like I struggle to learn the game and how to counter other divisions templates and things of that nature and when googling stuff it’s all just put into fractions 😂
Yeah I've been there for sure. I think with every DLC game also gets a bit more complicated. One starter tip I can give you is that whatever division you end up trying, always have engineer support, artillery support and anti-air support in your division templates. I think you can safely experiment with the rest as long as you have those covered.
There’s no fun, Paradox not making this game multiplayer in any shape or form is truly tragic, it becomes a stupid af farming simulator. 1v1 Ranked ladder should be very easily done at least.
Take all tiles surrounding said port.Make sure your units do not enter the port which they might do if its apart of your offensive order by splitting off the divisions you want to use for this into a new frontline around the port with no offensive order and edit the offensive order on the main frontline to not go through the port. When enemy divisions are inside the surrounded support tile do a support attack, (which defeats the enemies inside a tile without moving in) by pressing ctrl + right click on the tile instead of the normal right click.
The ottoman empire did this IRL to the Brits in world war one lol
And the brits used the first robot in combat during that battle lol
In Gallipoli war isnt it?
@@nonameguy1331 and they still lost badly
@@prajwal4080Guess which country Got humiliated and Lost all of their empire in WWI
(Hint:The name of a Bird)
LMFAOOO THE TURKISH REPUBLIC DESTROYED THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE NOT THE BRITISH LEARN YOUR HISTORY KID🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@PersianApologetics
"Mr Churchill please just one more landing Mr. Churchill please it will work this time please just one more landing."
hmm why do i get ww1 vibe, oh wait, the brits did this lol,they kept reinforcing while the turks republican was waiting in the mountain waiting for them to land
Insane manpower depleted lol
It also deletes enemy units and if you put maintenance companies in your units you can capture equipment
maintenance com really underrated
@@Kalenderz35 Very overrated unless your fighting a death war only battle planning.
Maintenance company is almost essential for minor powers. It's less useful for secondary and especially major powers which can just spam hundreds of military factories.
@inquerion8867 You dont need more than 20 factories on guns arty & support eq together.
You dont even know how goated this strat is against turkey when trying to form byzantines bruh😭
I followed Hatless Spider's insane guide for Byzantium by 1938. Basically as Greece you ally with Germany take out Albania/Italy, Austria, and the UK (declare on Lithuania) with your starting army.
Then you declare on Netherlands, then Belgium, and then France. Right before you take Paris, you declare x3 on Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, and Turkey (Focus tree) so they join the Allies. Once France capitulates, all the majors are defeated and Allies lose. You can just take all cores to make Byzantium. Only thing left is to fight USSR with Germany to puppet Moscow for the Bad Romeance Achievement
you can also block amphibious crossings with even just submarines, so the Bosporus Strait is a good place to do such a thing, also strait of messina, kerch strait, all of Denmark, etc.
Reverse Gallipoli
Hoi4 players will do anything but use actual strategy 💀
Hey, isnt this illegal?
Hoi4 players: yea, thats the point
It's OP tactic
No. Your allies will end them and take the port..
@@ferdinand8994Don’t call them, then.
@@gay.mer9328 have you ever played hoi4?
@@ferdinand8994 when you disable supply for allies they wont cover that part of the front mate and go elsewhere
It's an exploit, not a tactic
Quick tip for those who didn't know: press H before the red line fills up to halt your divisions and they wont step into the tile :)
This is the best Hint and Tactic I have ever seen In My LIFE !!!
>Right click to attack
>Divs instantly take port
>Right after that the next month starts and game saves
Then just wait for them to naval invade you, the ai really loves naval invasions
tfw greentext in a UA-cam comments section
Imagine how the troops must felt when hearing the orders:
Yo guys take that po- actually dont or nevermind take it oh never mind fall back or actually I changed my mind attack back
It works better if you delete the front line. Having the units around the port without the front line, then conrtol+right clicking gets the blue support arrow, and they wont move into the tile (you wont have to press an extra button to stop them)
Found this when I was fighting Japan on Sakhalin island. Exploited this when AI had to many division and any invasion would be a disaster.
The Ottoman Empire actually did this to the British lol😂
But they had nearly triple the casualties so it didnt really work irl for them
@@omgwind5217no, ottomans 60k brits and french 45k + french and brits lost 6 Dreadnaughts (Lmao against Simple Canons)
@@T.C.Lupina RIP those 6 venerable battle brothers
@@T.C.Lupina israel did nothing wrong
@@T.C.Lupinathe only dreadnought at Gallipoli was the Queen Elizabeth.
Delete the frontline order, Ctrl+ right click so you dont have to cancel the order
Gotta love the smiling portraits 😁
This only works if your allies don't capture the port though.
The AI doesn't need this to be heavily bullied, though ...
They do >:(
Killed the whole Italian army like this as Yugo, they had maybe 5-6 divisions left. Lol
The equipment you capture from thst must br insane
Yep, you get a lot
IA: where is my manpower and my equipment?
Norway is fantastic at this for obvious reasons.
Certified kristibbs moment
Farming simulator 1941
The way you do it in this video needs you to stop the attack manually, do not assign orders then support attack into the port and you won't have to stop the troops manually, it's so much easier that way
how do you do that?
but how "shift" dosnt work for me ?
@@grucci3722shift right click or control right click on specifically the unit not the tile. It forces a support attack order without a normal attack needed. The units then remain stationary after they kill off the enemy. Unless you use a frontline order ofcourse
Players will sometimes not notice either that they still got troops on the way, or think they can use the port to land troops for a assault if it looks ill or undefended.
Yep. I use it for a long time. It's really good tactics
They seriously need to fix the mentally handicapped ai because the problem with hoi4 imo is, AI is just far to easy to cheese and brainless, making singeplayer very unengaging.
But multiplayer, oh god I have experienced very few games with the same amount of toxicity. And the balance is fucked, and so many tryhards with a defined meta who shit in you if you don’t know everything. Also to this date, paradox games remain broken and unstable in multiplayer.
The fact that a happy medium does not exist between stomping single player and getting stomped in multiplayer is a problem for sure
THANK YOU I LEGIT HAVE LIKE OVER 7,000 HOURS AND NEVER KNEW THIS :(
It's nice except when the AI has like 40 naval invasions back to back 😓
Support attack it so your divisions don't take the tile
How do you support attack?
@@ryanbraud2813 control+click the unit you are attacking, if you are doing this you must delete the frontline because the units will automatically take it
Literally exploited this since day 1, made my no focus tree Portugal playthrough bearable, this was before the Spanish focus tree was added, literally started playing when Waking the Tiger was the latest DLC.
As somone with 6k hours its fun seeing people figure how bad the AI is and playing agaist AI is like minecraft creative
They smilling gaves me therrifying
The ottomans at Gallipoli lmao
Imagine getting deployed in beach just to get fucking shot in your head just 1 feet within you
I hope this still works in Gotterdammerung-
why didn’t mussolini think of this
If you dont do a frontline and just do the support attack you cant accidentaly take the port
How to overcome Japanese naval invasion as China 101
Did not know this but now fighting the A.I just got even easier 💀
"It's not an exploit, just poor military strategy on the AIs end" - My Copium when justifying doing it
My justification would be that it's really not that serious of a game. I also get the people who want for a more immersive experience in their playthroughs. Hope you have fun with it
@@ChillGeneral Yeah the more I've played the more it strikes me as a game that would need to be rebuilt from the ground up to be "realistic".
That's why nobody bothers making historical balance once you learn the game because it heavily incentivizes you to just cheese the system.
Cool strategy but honestly, exploits like these just don’t work for me in the terms of having fun.
I used this to inflict a billion casualties as socialist Czechoslovakia that had formed Austria-Hungary and just needed to get to Australia.
I was at war with most of the world, including China.
This is also the best way to get By Merit Alone and Sun Tzu Reborn achievements.
More esploits please, thanks ❤❤❤❤❤
what are these portraits?
*sigh* time to share this video to the hoi4 discord channel
seriously? Do you prefer bugs instead of fighting for one mountain cell for 3 years?
so we can make byzantine empire much easier to attack italian in zara
Good job getting Paradox's attention. The game used to be fun as a minor nation taking over the world before they patched every trick.
I doubt Paradox's attention is really on any of these but you can roll back to previous versions of the game to have a go at some of the tricks you've been missing
Idk who Geneva is, but she’s pissed
Wondering if it works after the new dlc? I use it often not to really weaken the enemy but to level up my generals😅
It still works, i have inflicted millions casualties to enemy with this. You also can raid the enemies troops convoy route to maximize loss and equip your troops with maintenance company to capture enemies equipment. Use more ports to maximize your encirclement farm industry💪💪💪
@@anwarsaipulrohmi8279 yes I usually have separated template to encircle and get extra equipment but mid and late game most of the time you won't run out of guns
ii saw a guy who left USA winowt manpower with this tactic
Pov: otoomans in galipoli
Gallipoli strat
I’m new to HOI4, how do you attack without taking the tile?
H for hold position hotkey
@@ChillGeneral thanks
Why are all of your generals smiling
I don't know but they don't for me, they have 2 in there, put three more in, and then they never do again
Also, no, inflicting casualties does not increase war score.
Yes, this means theoretically, if you suffered no casualties, conquered the enemy yourself, and did nothing else that increased your war score, the AI would have 100% war score, leaving you with none, despite you doing all the work
Can you provide more specifics on how you're trying it? They might be getting their convoys sunk
The warscore gain used to work that way but now land combat damage counts massively so you should be getting warscore
@@F.R.E.D.D2986 Well, you get most warscore via shooting down planes and encircling enemy divisions. The thing that virtually doesn't give warscore is occupying enemy provinces.
@@budibasabasik I'm gonna have to check that because I have played a lot of this game and I have found occupation to be by far, the most important aspect of it, at least in the modern versions, not the older ones.
How do you attack without taking the tile?
H for hold position hotkey
How do you attack without moving your divisions in?
H for hold position
What key are you clicking after right-clicking the port?
H for hold command
@@ChillGeneral ありがとうございます!
Isn't there a way to click attack where your divs attack but won't advance into the tile? I can never remember the various hotkeys for the game lol
Same input as the support attack (hold Ctrl and right click)
@Rumennewdells thanks friend!
Against ai, all you need to do is battle plan. I don't understand why anyone plays single player, there's nothing to it
Because not everyone is as skilled? For me just fighting the AI is hard, I still can’t do sea lion at 2,500 hours. And now I should fight other players? I am not a masochist, thank you very much
How do you attack without taking the territory? It seems like a cool exploit
I just manually stop them from walking in with H hotkey but you can also launch a support attack with ctrl right click
Once found ang flaws, anything about it was just bump.
How do you stop making the troops move tho?
H for hold position
@@ChillGeneral thx
how to do support attack in this case, i saw many yt videos of people doing it so they dont need to stop units to move in province. He is using right click in this case what i need is support attack. tnx
As a new player is the way to play HOI4 just to exploit things like this? The game seems tough.
It's a relaxing game for the most part and you can spend hours having fun with it without ever needing to exploit
@ I ask because I feel like I struggle to learn the game and how to counter other divisions templates and things of that nature and when googling stuff it’s all just put into fractions 😂
Yeah I've been there for sure. I think with every DLC game also gets a bit more complicated. One starter tip I can give you is that whatever division you end up trying, always have engineer support, artillery support and anti-air support in your division templates. I think you can safely experiment with the rest as long as you have those covered.
Я так за Албанию нанёс Оси потери в 2 миллиона и захватил Италию
How you cancel the attack order so fast?
H key
What's the point of playing like that? How is it different to just simply using the console?
Galopili be like
In my opinion, it doesn't feel right, so mainly I didn't use such a tactic)😅
The AI is already pretty dumb, so this exploit is very unnecesary.
I did this to get a achievement
And This is why I don’t play singleplayer
Works for germany?
Yep
Feedbackgaming strat
ユーゴ君、充足割れてるゾ!
And where is the fun in that?
There’s no fun, Paradox not making this game multiplayer in any shape or form is truly tragic, it becomes a stupid af farming simulator.
1v1 Ranked ladder should be very easily done at least.
Wow so good this dude is AI
He is a traitor
Wait that's illegal.
We've invented this in Russian comunity years ago.
Я думал, что это работает только с Зарой и Италией
How do i attack without moving my units
Как отменять атаку сразу всех дивизий?
just dont do it to USA, last time my Sov campaign I did this now they are gathering in Moscow. 😢
Genius
If use this exploit is better for u play pacman. It have no sense
Yes! And it's cheesy af.
I e never done this cause it’s cheap asf.
Nah im not exploiting against ai, it just stupid
How to do?
Take all tiles surrounding said port.Make sure your units do not enter the port which they might do if its apart of your offensive order by splitting off the divisions you want to use for this into a new frontline around the port with no offensive order and edit the offensive order on the main frontline to not go through the port. When enemy divisions are inside the surrounded support tile do a support attack, (which defeats the enemies inside a tile without moving in) by pressing ctrl + right click on the tile instead of the normal right click.
I call it Noob tactic
And Palermo
If you're gonna exploit AI mechanics just use mods.
its ruins all joy from game
Imagine cheesing ai what is even the point of playing anymore???