The Early History of Albania in 6 minutes.
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2021
- In this video I try to briefly sumarise the early history of the Albanian people.
The video starts from the ancient period when the lands which form modern day Albania were inhabited by a ancient people called the Illyrians and finishes with death of the famous Albanian hero Scanderbeg and the Ottoman conquest of "Sqiperia".
I love albania from 🇬🇪
Thank you
I like also Georgia 🇬🇪
Georgia has long and rich history
Thnx bro love back to Georgia from Albania
Then you must love independent south Ossetia as a country right.
@@milotfokusi2124 unlike albania
Love Bulgaria from Albania!🇦🇱🖤🇧🇬
Respect to Bulgarian people,..we have some Bulgarian minorities in Albania which arrived in Albania long time ago , and are very well respected community,..they are very nice people and also generous,..one of them is friend of mine !
Ku Jan keta bullgaret ne Shqiperi o vlla
@@histori_shqiptare0225
Katundi Gollobord Diber,…gjithashtu dhe ne Kukes,…dhe ne Pogradec rreth Prespes
@@histori_shqiptare0225 goranet ne diber
@@histori_shqiptare0225 🤣😂😂 po mirë ja ke thën!
@@Energy_69 qka kan lypë bullgar në shqipri?
I born in turkey my origin of my grand grand grand father is frome Dardania Kosova , you have no idea how many Albanians are in Istanbul Izmir
we are learning Shqip now 🇽🇰🇦🇱❤️
You should pull a Gjergj Kastrioti and become the next Skenderbeg - Homeoand is calling
Thank god, respect brother ❤
Bah, that’s 4 generations ago, you barely have any Albanian dna
@@scorpionfiresome3834 yes we have , cause we marry other albanian womans from other tribes FIS , we know what we are where we came from , and how we came here who is the reason what is the reason
@@Anicapp I love your thinking👌👍
Scythians and Illyrians are good neighbors
🇧🇬🤝🇦🇱
@@kalushevish1844 yes
@@kalushevish1844 its real Scythian origin of Bulgarians
@@bulgariannationalist1637 kk
@@wallachianknight557 bulgars were scytho-turks. Bulgarians are thracians, don't listen to uneducated people's comments.
@@wallachianknight557 depends which region you're from, northern Bulgarians are more Slavic while us Thracian Bulgarians from Thrace have more Balkan i2a haplogroup which is Thracian and illyrians
You have to give respect to these peoples that have been conquered by many different empires and still survived and kept their identity and language.
And now want to claim all of them our hidtory
@@costenics_sw no! Just respect
@@costenics_sw Not even a thank you that we made your modern state, thanks to Arvanites.
@@dios1ish868 Arvanites are Greeks lol their pedigree is from North Iperus.
@@costenics_sw Ask Arberesh in Italy how greek they are.
I love my country because for me have best people 🌹❤🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱⛪
Yeah, right! Terrorists are really wonderful people. 😒🤢🤮
Dikur, sot populli i yt eshte tradhtar, kriminal dhe nje pjese e madhe puntor te medhenje por per boten dhe jo per vendin e vet.
*Love and respect from Serbia!🇷🇸🇦🇱❤*
Tell me you support terrorist without telling me you support terorist.
@@kosovoisserbia8937 😂😂😂
Kosovo is dardanian 👍
@@stefanbuge2320 dreamer. Serb special forces in Leposavić. Next step Prizren.
@@kosovoisserbia8937 take care that you don't lose vojvodina, because to get to prizren, papa can't help Russia either!.
@@stefanbuge2320 HAHAHAHAHA 😂🤣🤣😂. Big dreams for country was made up in 1912 to block Serbian sea acses.
You have a few mistakes. It’s called the Illyrian Peninsula before anything Balkan ever was created.
It was called ILLYRICUM by the Romans
Albanians have absolutely nothing to do with Illyrians. If anything the tall Serb/Croats have more affiliation in culture and physical looks. Albanians in the 20th century wanted to abandon their Turkish identity and embrace Europe-the intelligentsia that is, the common Albanian loved to call himself Turk. They are Muslims after all.
Albanians are related to Romanians and are not even indigenous to Albania, who were always a small minority in Greece. There were maybe a couple thousand for instance in Athens at most in the early 1800s.
Southern Albania still has Greeks as it is really northern Epirus. Albanians are likely from the Carpathian Mountains, since they also have many similarities to the substrate of Romanian. We can’t say for sure because no Albanians ever left even one literal sentence for archeologists-yet they want us to believe they were the original neighbors of the most literate Greeks and Romans, who even wrote about China and Ethiopia but never a so-called Albania. Where were they? No saints, kings, poets-not even peasants are mentioned by any Byzantines. And no, the latter never considered Albanians Romans or “Byzantines”. In fact the Romans only used the word Roman for Greeks. Even Bulgarians when rules for centuries were never called Byzantines ie Romans. Not even Armenians or Coptics were called Romaioi. But many slavs (the “Macedonians”) and Albanians etc not only wish they were ancient Greeks but they want to be medieval Greeks too. Be proud of your ancestors were all part of the human story.
Textbooks in FYROM (i.e. “North Macedonia”) written by Albanian authors during the Soviet era (“North Macedonia”; “Macedonians” only make up 65% of FYROM; 25% is Albanian) never claimed Illyrian origins. They never taught Albanians were Illyrians but did go over Illyrian history.
In “Albanian identities: myth and history”, USA: Indiana University Press, p. 43, written essays by an assortment of western academics, they say of Kastrioti (Greek name):
“…an episode taken from medieval history was central for Albanian national mythology. In the absence of medieval kingdom or empire the Albanian nationalists chose Skanderbeg....”
They go in to explain,
“The need to combine communist and nationalist ideologies made necessary the elaboration and enlargement of the nationalist myths sometimes even their modification-through a technique of synchronized combination with communist myths. In analyzing this technique it is important to keep in mind that nationalist-communist ideology was represented in two forms: in its religious form claiming that the doctrine of Marx was ‘just, harmonious and complete’(Lenin); and in its theoretical form claiming that belief in this ideology was based on scientific knowledge, not on the unknown and the transcendental. In fact the ideology was neither a religion nor a theory, but a mutation of both. Acting as a belief, while asserting at the same time to be scholarly knowledge the national-communist ideology froze many truths (among them historical ones). There was thus a mutation of mythology into science and of science into mythology. For instance, the ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars during the 1950s, but when Enver Hoxha declared that their origin was Illyrian (without denying their Pelasgian roots) no one dared participate in further discussion of the question. During the communist era, literary and artistic activity as well as academic studies (especially historical and linguistic studies) all adhered to this pattern. By this means a virtual world was created in which Albanians lived within the propaganda framework ofthe party and of the literary, artistic and academic works which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theatres and exhibitions.
Sober-minded Albanians reject the Illyrian propaganda pushed by Hoxha too (Some Slavs including Croat/Serbs said they were Illyrians in the 19th cent too):
Albanian names bear witness to the historic drive to prove the Illyrian link.
Not Pandeli Pani. When he was born in Tirana in 1966, midway through the long dictatorship of Enver Hoxha, his father told the local registry office that he wished to name him after his grandfather.
Pani recalls his father’s hard-fought battle not to have to give his son an Illyrian name.
Staff at the civil registry office apparently said that naming the future linguistics professor after his grandfather was not a good idea, as he was dead. They suggested an approved Illyrian name instead.
“But the Illyrians aren’t alive either,” Pani recalls his father as quipping.
Many members of Pani’s generation born in the Sixties did not have such stubborn fathers. Their parents subscribed to the government policy of naming children after names drawn from ancient tombs.
In the eyes of the world, they aimed to cement the linkage between modern Albania and its supposedly ancient past.
“While I was named after my grandfather, keeping up a family tradition, other parents gave their children Illyrian names that I doubt they knew the meaning of,” says Pani, who today teaches at Jena university in Germany.
“But I doubt many parents today would want to name their children ‘Bledar’ or ‘Agron,’ when the first means ‘dead’ and the second ‘Arcadian,” he adds.
Pani says that despite the Hoxha regime’s efforts to burn the doctrine of the Albanians’ Illyrian origins into the nation’s consciousness, the theory has become increasingly anachronistic.
“The political pressure in which Albania’s scientific community worked after the Communists took over, made it difficult to deal with flaws with the doctrine of the Illyrian origin,” he said.
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
Austrian Scholars Leave Albania Lost for Words
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
balkaninsight.com/2011/03/25/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAlbanian%20is%20not%20as%20the,language's%20broad%20shape%20resembles%20Greek.Albanians likely came from the Carpathian Mountains near Romania. It’s why the two languages (Romanian and Albanian) share unique words only between themselves. The link is undeniable. Both share substrucutres in language unique to the two. There are native words in Albanian for certain trees in the carpathian region etc. No Albanian native coastal words but plenty of mountain words, meaning they weren’t a sea people while the Illyrians were infamous pirates and sailors. Likely the Albanians migrated during during the first millennium CE.
Here is one of the best answers on Quora:
George Demo's answer to Are the Albanians the descendants of the ancient Illyrians?
www.quora.com/Are-the-Albanians-the-descendants-of-the-ancient-Illyrians/answer/George-Demo?ch=17&oid=294623803&share=2938355a&srid=uKx2E&target_type=answerGenetically there are strong affiliations as well between the carpathians and Albania. To quote the author of the above Quora article regarding genetic evidence:
To clarify, their logic goes something along the lines of: J2b-L283 was found in southern Croatia which was inhabited by Illyrians, who are the descendants of the Albanians and there are Albanians who carry this subclade, therefore it’s proven that Albanians are Illyrians. Idiotic, I know. Below is an approximate map of where European subclades of E-V13 are present (which is the most common haplogroup amongst Albanians). You won’t come across any Albanian nationalist claim “Look, E-V13 is mostly concentrated in Albania and in the Carpathian Mountains. It’s proven that we descend from the Carpathians”, like they do with J2b-L283.
The diversity of haplogroups among modern Albanians reflect their complex ethnogenesis (Peričić et al. 2005; Battaglia et al. 2008): An origin of the Albanoid homeland close to the north-west Pontic region during the Iron Age, before their expansion and subsequent Y-DNA bottlenecks, is supported by the prevalent E1b1b1a1b1-L618 lineages (ca. 24-44%)-mainly V13+ (formed ca. 6100 BC, TMRCA ca. 2800 BC)-a haplogroup found previously in Neolithic Hungary and among Scythians
Most of the Illyrians lived from Montenegro all the way to northern Italy. Southern Albania was Greek and even in 1914 Albania was supposed to recognize their autonomy. John Wilkes the foremost modern authority on Illyrians says they should not be equated to the relatively shorter and swarthy Albanians. Illyrians were tall with light features and many speculate they may have been part Celt. They had similarities to celts also and lived as neighbors with them for centuries. Even Kastrioti is a Greek name and declares himself Greek epirote. His father and brother were Konstantinos and Giorgos. Why didn’t they use Albanian names? If Albanians had always been there we would have heard about them since they are between Greece and Italy the two centers of literacy in ancient Europe. Nor do other Europeans mention Albanians until the last millennium, maybe around tue 11-12th centuries. The via ignacia passes right through Albania but never do we hear of any Albanians from Roman’s or Greeks until medieval times. Yet the Romans/Byzantines knew about China, Ethiopia, and India but not a nation right in the backyard-actually in the middle of their years? The Carpathian hypothesis makes most sense under the circumstances and there is genetic-cultural connections to the area particularly with Romania, the Carpathian heartland. There are native Albanian words for trees found in the carpathians not not native to Albania, and Albanian vegetation often used borrowed words for things like specific oak trees etc. As
@@Vishnujanadasa108 Ah yes, the Serbs....the great authority on all things history. Can I as an Albanian also make up some history about your people, or do only Serbs get to spew bs like this?
@@Vishnujanadasa108because you do not want to, to except the fact. Do you know I live an other country and can touch Illyrian language. How do I understand, simply is Albanian
@@shpresa6939 ironic. There are no Illyrian scripts so how can you understand it? Some naive Albanians concoct pseudo-linguistics to satisfy themselves about their supposed Illyrian roots. They say things like Herakles means “strong oak” in Albanian (a nonexistent language until a few hundred years ago) yet severe sane person knows it means “Heat’s glory” since he performed the 12 labors of Hera. Or my favorite: Alexander means according to them “like a dream” because he was so dreamy. It really means “protector of men” in Greek. Did you Jesus and Buddha were Albanian too?
Nice brother, greetings from albania 🇦🇱❤🇧🇬
WE in Ukraine learn at schools that Epirus is Albanian not Greek
Yet we all know that Ukraine is a Russian corner
Epirus is both Albanian and Greek dear friend.Epirus was always a "mixed" territory.
lol Ukraine is fake no wonder you learn fake history. Epirus was and is always Greek. Also Ukraine is fake country
@@shqipemalesore2620 Was Albanian,but Greeks took it with war
@@mr.president9324 analbania never existed this is propaganda haha because im historical
Ottoman Sultans - "I fear no man. But those things..."
*Skanderbeg & Vlad Tepes ominously glare through a window*
Ottoman Sultans - "They scare me."
Hi drom dardania✋🇦🇱
From*
Hi from son of Metohija Kosta Pećanac Chetniks ! Unfortunately only 4000 Albanians were neutralized by them. Next time 4 milon.
@@kosovoisserbia8937 Don't forget to change your serbian plates with RKS when you cross the border between Kosovo🇽🇰🇦🇱 and Serbia
@@kosovoisserbia8937 tbh jasenovac
@@kosovoisserbia8937 you have some shiti dreams no one can make your wishes come true
The new animation is lit ! Well done !
Rarely do you see such an unbiased factual video of the balkans, very well done. You have my respect.
Albanians have absolutely nothing to do with Illyrians. If anything the tall Serb/Croats have more affiliation in culture and physical looks. Albanians in the 20th century wanted to abandon their Turkish identity and embrace Europe-the intelligentsia that is, the common Albanian loved to call himself Turk. They are Muslims after all.
Albanians are related to Romanians and are not even indigenous to Albania, who were always a small minority in Greece. There were maybe a couple thousand for instance in Athens at most in the early 1800s.
Southern Albania still has Greeks as it is really northern Epirus. Albanians are likely from the Carpathian Mountains, since they also have many similarities to the substrate of Romanian. We can’t say for sure because no Albanians ever left even one literal sentence for archeologists-yet they want us to believe they were the original neighbors of the most literate Greeks and Romans, who even wrote about China and Ethiopia but never a so-called Albania. Where were they? No saints, kings, poets-not even peasants are mentioned by any Byzantines. And no, the latter never considered Albanians Romans or “Byzantines”. In fact the Romans only used the word Roman for Greeks. Even Bulgarians when rules for centuries were never called Byzantines ie Romans. Not even Armenians or Coptics were called Romaioi. But many slavs (the “Macedonians”) and Albanians etc not only wish they were ancient Greeks but they want to be medieval Greeks too. Be proud of your ancestors were all part of the human story.
Textbooks in FYROM (i.e. “North Macedonia”) written by Albanian authors during the Soviet era (“North Macedonia”; “Macedonians” only make up 65% of FYROM; 25% is Albanian) never claimed Illyrian origins. They never taught Albanians were Illyrians but did go over Illyrian history.
In “Albanian identities: myth and history”, USA: Indiana University Press, p. 43, written essays by an assortment of western academics, they say of Kastrioti (Greek name):
“…an episode taken from medieval history was central for Albanian national mythology. In the absence of medieval kingdom or empire the Albanian nationalists chose Skanderbeg....”
They go in to explain,
“The need to combine communist and nationalist ideologies made necessary the elaboration and enlargement of the nationalist myths sometimes even their modification-through a technique of synchronized combination with communist myths. In analyzing this technique it is important to keep in mind that nationalist-communist ideology was represented in two forms: in its religious form claiming that the doctrine of Marx was ‘just, harmonious and complete’(Lenin); and in its theoretical form claiming that belief in this ideology was based on scientific knowledge, not on the unknown and the transcendental. In fact the ideology was neither a religion nor a theory, but a mutation of both. Acting as a belief, while asserting at the same time to be scholarly knowledge the national-communist ideology froze many truths (among them historical ones). There was thus a mutation of mythology into science and of science into mythology. For instance, the ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars during the 1950s, but when Enver Hoxha declared that their origin was Illyrian (without denying their Pelasgian roots) no one dared participate in further discussion of the question. During the communist era, literary and artistic activity as well as academic studies (especially historical and linguistic studies) all adhered to this pattern. By this means a virtual world was created in which Albanians lived within the propaganda framework ofthe party and of the literary, artistic and academic works which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theatres and exhibitions.
Sober-minded Albanians reject the Illyrian propaganda pushed by Hoxha too (Some Slavs including Croat/Serbs said they were Illyrians in the 19th cent too):
Albanian names bear witness to the historic drive to prove the Illyrian link.
Not Pandeli Pani. When he was born in Tirana in 1966, midway through the long dictatorship of Enver Hoxha, his father told the local registry office that he wished to name him after his grandfather.
Pani recalls his father’s hard-fought battle not to have to give his son an Illyrian name.
Staff at the civil registry office apparently said that naming the future linguistics professor after his grandfather was not a good idea, as he was dead. They suggested an approved Illyrian name instead.
“But the Illyrians aren’t alive either,” Pani recalls his father as quipping.
Many members of Pani’s generation born in the Sixties did not have such stubborn fathers. Their parents subscribed to the government policy of naming children after names drawn from ancient tombs.
In the eyes of the world, they aimed to cement the linkage between modern Albania and its supposedly ancient past.
“While I was named after my grandfather, keeping up a family tradition, other parents gave their children Illyrian names that I doubt they knew the meaning of,” says Pani, who today teaches at Jena university in Germany.
“But I doubt many parents today would want to name their children ‘Bledar’ or ‘Agron,’ when the first means ‘dead’ and the second ‘Arcadian,” he adds.
Pani says that despite the Hoxha regime’s efforts to burn the doctrine of the Albanians’ Illyrian origins into the nation’s consciousness, the theory has become increasingly anachronistic.
“The political pressure in which Albania’s scientific community worked after the Communists took over, made it difficult to deal with flaws with the doctrine of the Illyrian origin,” he said.
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
Austrian Scholars Leave Albania Lost for Words
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
balkaninsight.com/2011/03/25/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAlbanian%20is%20not%20as%20the,language's%20broad%20shape%20resembles%20Greek.Albanians likely came from the Carpathian Mountains near Romania. It’s why the two languages (Romanian and Albanian) share unique words only between themselves. The link is undeniable. Both share substrucutres in language unique to the two. There are native words in Albanian for certain trees in the carpathian region etc. No Albanian native coastal words but plenty of mountain words, meaning they weren’t a sea people while the Illyrians were infamous pirates and sailors. Likely the Albanians migrated during during the first millennium CE.
Here is one of the best answers on Quora:
George Demo's answer to Are the Albanians the descendants of the ancient Illyrians?
www.quora.com/Are-the-Albanians-the-descendants-of-the-ancient-Illyrians/answer/George-Demo?ch=17&oid=294623803&share=2938355a&srid=uKx2E&target_type=answerGenetically there are strong affiliations as well between the carpathians and Albania. To quote the author of the above Quora article regarding genetic evidence:
To clarify, their logic goes something along the lines of: J2b-L283 was found in southern Croatia which was inhabited by Illyrians, who are the descendants of the Albanians and there are Albanians who carry this subclade, therefore it’s proven that Albanians are Illyrians. Idiotic, I know. Below is an approximate map of where European subclades of E-V13 are present (which is the most common haplogroup amongst Albanians). You won’t come across any Albanian nationalist claim “Look, E-V13 is mostly concentrated in Albania and in the Carpathian Mountains. It’s proven that we descend from the Carpathians”, like they do with J2b-L283.
The diversity of haplogroups among modern Albanians reflect their complex ethnogenesis (Peričić et al. 2005; Battaglia et al. 2008): An origin of the Albanoid homeland close to the north-west Pontic region during the Iron Age, before their expansion and subsequent Y-DNA bottlenecks, is supported by the prevalent E1b1b1a1b1-L618 lineages (ca. 24-44%)-mainly V13+ (formed ca. 6100 BC, TMRCA ca. 2800 BC)-a haplogroup found previously in Neolithic Hungary and among Scythians
Most of the Illyrians lived from Montenegro all the way to northern Italy. Southern Albania was Greek and even in 1914 Albania was supposed to recognize their autonomy. John Wilkes the foremost modern authority on Illyrians says they should not be equated to the relatively shorter and swarthy Albanians. Illyrians were tall with light features and many speculate they may have been part Celt. They had similarities to celts also and lived as neighbors with them for centuries. Even Kastrioti is a Greek name and declares himself Greek epirote. His father and brother were Konstantinos and Giorgos. Why didn’t they use Albanian names? If Albanians had always been there we would have heard about them since they are between Greece and Italy the two centers of literacy in ancient Europe. Nor do other Europeans mention Albanians until the last millennium, maybe around tue 11-12th centuries. The via ignacia passes right through Albania but never do we hear of any Albanians from Roman’s or Greeks until medieval times. Yet the Romans/Byzantines knew about China, Ethiopia, and India but not a nation right in the backyard-actually in the middle of their years? The Carpathian hypothesis makes most sense under the circumstances and there is genetic-cultural connections to the area particularly with Romania, the Carpathian heartland. There are native Albanian words for trees found in the carpathians not not native to Albania, and Albanian vegetation often used borrowed words for things like specific oak trees etc. As
@@mikey_zari yawn. Need a hug? Albanians have zero connection with Illyrians, they just wish they were like Greeks and Italians the way Slavs bordering Greece wish they were Greek Macedonians. It’s understandable that being so close to Greek glory they would go mad. John Wilkes the foremost authority on Illyrians said the short dark modern-day Albanians shouldn’t the confused with tall light-haired Illyrians. He said Croats/Serbs were closer to the Illyrian homeland (near Bosnia), are tall (a fact of you know Yugoslavians) and had some faint cultural traits of Illyrians. Nothing like that exists for Albanians. Even their language is one of the most mixed in Europe if not the world. Albanian is full of Greek, Turk, and Slav names. Many areas of Albania bear Slavic names too because they came before Albanians in the late 6th century. Albanians came from the carpathians later in the Middle Ages. They have names for fauna that only exists in the carpathians and no local native coastal words which they had to borrow from Greeks. Illyrians were pirate sea peoples so that doesn’t make sense if Albanians are Illyrians. The closest language to Albanian is Romanian in that they both share a substrate that is very similar. Also khazar, bulgar, etc. which makes sense if they came with waves of step nomads or were running from them and came down the Balkan passes to hide in the mountains of modern Albania-which was always Greek Epirus since time immemorial. Look at any ancient map. Albanians are embarrassed by these fact-well not the sober ones. Just like not all south Slavs are delusional claiming they are Macedonians. The sober ones mock such nonsense. This is all communist Hoxha propaganda.
Where were all these Albanians during most of Buzo time history? No one wrote about them until the high Middle Ages? That’s bizarre since Albania was between the most literate parts of the Roman Empire, Italy and geeece--yet none of them wrote about Albania? You’re kidding yourself. Until practically 1912 Albanians preferred the name Turk since they were all Muslims.
George Demo's answer to Are the Albanians the descendants of the ancient Illyrians?
www.quora.com/Are-the-Albanians-the-descendants-of-the-ancient-Illyrians/answer/George-Demo?ch=17&oid=294623803&share=2938355a&srid=uKx2E&target_type=answerGenetically there are strong affiliations as well between the carpathians and Albania. To quote the author of the above Quora article regarding genetic evidence:To clarify, their logic goes something along the lines of: J2b-L283 was found in southern Croatia which was inhabited by Illyrians, who are the descendants of the Albanians and there are Albanians who carry this subclade, therefore it’s proven that Albanians are Illyrians. Idiotic, I know. Below is an approximate map of where European subclades of E-V13 are present (which is the most common haplogroup amongst Albanians). You won’t come across any Albanian nationalist claim “Look, E-V13 is mostly concentrated in Albania and in the Carpathian Mountains. It’s proven that we descend from the Carpathians”, like they do with J2b-L283.
The diversity of haplogroups among modern Albanians reflect their complex ethnogenesis (Peričić et al. 2005; Battaglia et al. 2008): An origin of the Albanoid homeland close to the north-west Pontic region during the Iron Age, before their expansion and subsequent Y-DNA bottlenecks, is supported by the prevalent E1b1b1a1b1-L618 lineages (ca. 24-44%)-mainly V13+ (formed ca. 6100 BC, TMRCA ca. 2800 BC)-a haplogroup found previously in Neolithic Hungary and among Scythians
Most of the Illyrians lived from Montenegro all the way to northern Italy. Southern Albania was Greek and even in 1914 Albania was supposed to recognize their autonomy. John Wilkes the foremost modern authority on Illyrians says they should not be equated to the relatively shorter and swarthy Albanians. Illyrians were tall with light features and many speculate they may have been part Celt. They had similarities to celts also and lived as neighbors with them for centuries. Even Kastrioti is a Greek name and declares himself Greek epirote. His father and brother were Konstantinos and Giorgos. Why didn’t they use Albanian names? If Albanians had always been there we would have heard about them since they are between Greece and Italy the two centers of literacy in ancient Europe. Nor do other Europeans mention Albanians until the last millennium, maybe around tue 11-12th centuries. The via ignacia passes right through Albania but never do we hear of any Albanians from Roman’s or Greeks until medieval times. Yet the Romans/Byzantines knew about China, Ethiopia, and India but not a nation right in the backyard-actually in the middle of their years? The Carpathian hypothesis makes most sense under the circumstances and there is genetic-cultural connections to the area particularly with Romania, the Carpathian heartland. There are native Albanian words for trees found in the carpathians not not native to Albania, and Albanian vegetation often used borrowed words for things like specific oak trees etc.
Albanians will concoct pseudo linguistics too gaslighting themselves and others. They say things like Herakles means “strong oak” in Albanian (a nonexistent language until a few hundred years ago) yet severe sane person knows it means “Heat’s glory” since he performed the 12 labors of Hera. Or my favorite: Alexander means according to them “like a dream” because he was so dreamy (sigh). It really means “protector of men” but your Soviet-era library never taught them Greek. Did you Jesus and Buddha were Albanian too?
@@mikey_zari
Albania was even liberated by Serbia and Greece during the second Balkan War. Greeks would prefer cordial relations and always take the initiative despite Albanian attempts at ethnic cleansing of Northern Epirus’ Greek minority (approximately 300,000-plus strong). In Albanian identities: myth and history”, USA: Indiana University Press, p. 43, scholar Bernd J. Fischer in the chapter “Perceptions and Reality In Twentieth-Century Albanian Military Prowess” writes, “After witnessing an attack by 800 partisans on a village in 1943, and the rapid dispersal of those partisans by some 300 Germans, a British observer complained that the partisans were little more than ‘a thorough band of rascals with no fighting ability whatsoever.’
German evaluations of the nationalist and collaborationist forces were even less flattering. SS General Josef Fitzthun, charged with the creation of the regular army for the puppet regime of Rexhep Mitrovica, blamed his failure on the Albanian officer corps, which he complained was not only worthless but full of pederasts. General August Schmidthuber, the German commander of the SS Skanderbeg division, explained his failure by suggesting that the legend of Albanian military heroics was just a saga and that he personally could chase them all around the world with a light grenade-launcher.
While these comments must be kept in the context of the source, the partisans did only very limited damage to the Germans. They were rarely able to hold fixed positions if the positions threatened German lines of communication, or German security in general. The large areas which the partisans controlled by late 1944 were generally areas in which the Germans had little interest. The largest battle took place in late October 1944 as the Germans had all but withdrawn from Albania. In the battle of Tirana, Enver Hoxha bunched units of his now 40,000-strong partisan brigades at the capital, following a significant lull in September, during which political considerations consumed much of Hoxha's time. This last assault on the Germans left the impression that Hoxha felt it necessary to get off a few shots before all the Germans had gone.
Iliri pellazghi Albanian Legend terra di Teuta Enea Dardani Achille Alessandro Magnio Pirro di Epire Gjergj Kastriot Skanderbeg Madre Teresa Albanian Legend
Mother Teresa was a terrible.!
@@a-k9161 injorante
@@bujarcullhai3567 kush eshte injorant dhe pse.?
@@a-k9161 ti!
@@illyriusk3919 ti nuk e ke idene se kush eshte Gonxhe Bojaxhiu. Me mire mos u mer me kete pun.!
No matter religion no matter language no metter if there are ottomans or slavic or whatever there is a Thracian Dna (blood) , Thracianas And Ilyrians especially Dardanians(Albanian from Kosovo) will respect Today Bulgarians.
Right on! And the genetic analysis just shows that you have no connection with the Illyrians, and as for Dardania, read the real history, don't read your propaganda bullshit, and find out what Dardania was.
There are some small mistakes but very good video! Nice work!👍
@Mighty Triballian proof for that? or just trust me bro?
@Mighty Triballian proof?
Albanians have absolutely nothing to do with Illyrians. If anything the tall Serb/Croats have more affiliation in culture and physical looks. Albanians in the 20th century wanted to abandon their Turkish identity and embrace Europe-the intelligentsia that is, the common Albanian loved to call himself Turk. They are Muslims after all.
Albanians are related to Romanians and are not even indigenous to Albania, who were always a small minority in Greece. There were maybe a couple thousand for instance in Athens at most in the early 1800s.
Southern Albania still has Greeks as it is really northern Epirus. Albanians are likely from the Carpathian Mountains, since they also have many similarities to the substrate of Romanian. We can’t say for sure because no Albanians ever left even one literal sentence for archeologists-yet they want us to believe they were the original neighbors of the most literate Greeks and Romans, who even wrote about China and Ethiopia but never a so-called Albania. Where were they? No saints, kings, poets-not even peasants are mentioned by any Byzantines. And no, the latter never considered Albanians Romans or “Byzantines”. In fact the Romans only used the word Roman for Greeks. Even Bulgarians when rules for centuries were never called Byzantines ie Romans. Not even Armenians or Coptics were called Romaioi. But many slavs (the “Macedonians”) and Albanians etc not only wish they were ancient Greeks but they want to be medieval Greeks too. Be proud of your ancestors were all part of the human story.
Textbooks in FYROM (i.e. “North Macedonia”) written by Albanian authors during the Soviet era (“North Macedonia”; “Macedonians” only make up 65% of FYROM; 25% is Albanian) never claimed Illyrian origins. They never taught Albanians were Illyrians but did go over Illyrian history.
In “Albanian identities: myth and history”, USA: Indiana University Press, p. 43, written essays by an assortment of western academics, they say of Kastrioti (Greek name):
“…an episode taken from medieval history was central for Albanian national mythology. In the absence of medieval kingdom or empire the Albanian nationalists chose Skanderbeg....”
They go in to explain,
“The need to combine communist and nationalist ideologies made necessary the elaboration and enlargement of the nationalist myths sometimes even their modification-through a technique of synchronized combination with communist myths. In analyzing this technique it is important to keep in mind that nationalist-communist ideology was represented in two forms: in its religious form claiming that the doctrine of Marx was ‘just, harmonious and complete’(Lenin); and in its theoretical form claiming that belief in this ideology was based on scientific knowledge, not on the unknown and the transcendental. In fact the ideology was neither a religion nor a theory, but a mutation of both. Acting as a belief, while asserting at the same time to be scholarly knowledge the national-communist ideology froze many truths (among them historical ones). There was thus a mutation of mythology into science and of science into mythology. For instance, the ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars during the 1950s, but when Enver Hoxha declared that their origin was Illyrian (without denying their Pelasgian roots) no one dared participate in further discussion of the question. During the communist era, literary and artistic activity as well as academic studies (especially historical and linguistic studies) all adhered to this pattern. By this means a virtual world was created in which Albanians lived within the propaganda framework ofthe party and of the literary, artistic and academic works which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theatres and exhibitions.
Sober-minded Albanians reject the Illyrian propaganda pushed by Hoxha too (Some Slavs including Croat/Serbs said they were Illyrians in the 19th cent too):
Albanian names bear witness to the historic drive to prove the Illyrian link.
Not Pandeli Pani. When he was born in Tirana in 1966, midway through the long dictatorship of Enver Hoxha, his father told the local registry office that he wished to name him after his grandfather.
Pani recalls his father’s hard-fought battle not to have to give his son an Illyrian name.
Staff at the civil registry office apparently said that naming the future linguistics professor after his grandfather was not a good idea, as he was dead. They suggested an approved Illyrian name instead.
“But the Illyrians aren’t alive either,” Pani recalls his father as quipping.
Many members of Pani’s generation born in the Sixties did not have such stubborn fathers. Their parents subscribed to the government policy of naming children after names drawn from ancient tombs.
In the eyes of the world, they aimed to cement the linkage between modern Albania and its supposedly ancient past.
“While I was named after my grandfather, keeping up a family tradition, other parents gave their children Illyrian names that I doubt they knew the meaning of,” says Pani, who today teaches at Jena university in Germany.
“But I doubt many parents today would want to name their children ‘Bledar’ or ‘Agron,’ when the first means ‘dead’ and the second ‘Arcadian,” he adds.
Pani says that despite the Hoxha regime’s efforts to burn the doctrine of the Albanians’ Illyrian origins into the nation’s consciousness, the theory has become increasingly anachronistic.
“The political pressure in which Albania’s scientific community worked after the Communists took over, made it difficult to deal with flaws with the doctrine of the Illyrian origin,” he said.
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
Austrian Scholars Leave Albania Lost for Words
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
balkaninsight.com/2011/03/25/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAlbanian%20is%20not%20as%20the,language's%20broad%20shape%20resembles%20Greek.Albanians likely came from the Carpathian Mountains near Romania. It’s why the two languages (Romanian and Albanian) share unique words only between themselves. The link is undeniable. Both share substrucutres in language unique to the two. There are native words in Albanian for certain trees in the carpathian region etc. No Albanian native coastal words but plenty of mountain words, meaning they weren’t a sea people while the Illyrians were infamous pirates and sailors. Likely the Albanians migrated during during the first millennium CE.
Here is one of the best answers on Quora:
George Demo's answer to Are the Albanians the descendants of the ancient Illyrians?
www.quora.com/Are-the-Albanians-the-descendants-of-the-ancient-Illyrians/answer/George-Demo?ch=17&oid=294623803&share=2938355a&srid=uKx2E&target_type=answerGenetically there are strong affiliations as well between the carpathians and Albania. To quote the author of the above Quora article regarding genetic evidence:
To clarify, their logic goes something along the lines of: J2b-L283 was found in southern Croatia which was inhabited by Illyrians, who are the descendants of the Albanians and there are Albanians who carry this subclade, therefore it’s proven that Albanians are Illyrians. Idiotic, I know. Below is an approximate map of where European subclades of E-V13 are present (which is the most common haplogroup amongst Albanians). You won’t come across any Albanian nationalist claim “Look, E-V13 is mostly concentrated in Albania and in the Carpathian Mountains. It’s proven that we descend from the Carpathians”, like they do with J2b-L283.
The diversity of haplogroups among modern Albanians reflect their complex ethnogenesis (Peričić et al. 2005; Battaglia et al. 2008): An origin of the Albanoid homeland close to the north-west Pontic region during the Iron Age, before their expansion and subsequent Y-DNA bottlenecks, is supported by the prevalent E1b1b1a1b1-L618 lineages (ca. 24-44%)-mainly V13+ (formed ca. 6100 BC, TMRCA ca. 2800 BC)-a haplogroup found previously in Neolithic Hungary and among Scythians
Most of the Illyrians lived from Montenegro all the way to northern Italy. Southern Albania was Greek and even in 1914 Albania was supposed to recognize their autonomy. John Wilkes the foremost modern authority on Illyrians says they should not be equated to the relatively shorter and swarthy Albanians. Illyrians were tall with light features and many speculate they may have been part Celt. They had similarities to celts also and lived as neighbors with them for centuries. Even Kastrioti is a Greek name and declares himself Greek epirote. His father and brother were Konstantinos and Giorgos. Why didn’t they use Albanian names? If Albanians had always been there we would have heard about them since they are between Greece and Italy the two centers of literacy in ancient Europe. Nor do other Europeans mention Albanians until the last millennium, maybe around tue 11-12th centuries. The via ignacia passes right through Albania but never do we hear of any Albanians from Roman’s or Greeks until medieval times. Yet the Romans/Byzantines knew about China, Ethiopia, and India but not a nation right in the backyard-actually in the middle of their years? The Carpathian hypothesis makes most sense under the circumstances and there is genetic-cultural connections to the area particularly with Romania, the Carpathian heartland. There are native Albanian words for trees found in the carpathians not not native to Albania, and Albanian vegetation often used borrowed words for things like specific oak trees etc. As
Too much slavic semen in your froot loops for breakfast?@@Vishnujanadasa108
Well done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You told the correct history that noone did as correct as you, to be honest I didn't expect this! 😍
Thank you so much for this video, respect from Kosovo 🇽🇰🇦🇱❤️
Albanians have absolutely nothing to do with Illyrians. If anything the tall Serb/Croats have more affiliation in culture and physical looks. Albanians in the 20th century wanted to abandon their Turkish identity and embrace Europe-the intelligentsia that is, the common Albanian loved to call himself Turk. They are Muslims after all.
Albanians are related to Romanians and are not even indigenous to Albania, who were always a small minority in Greece. There were maybe a couple thousand for instance in Athens at most in the early 1800s.
Southern Albania still has Greeks as it is really northern Epirus. Albanians are likely from the Carpathian Mountains, since they also have many similarities to the substrate of Romanian. We can’t say for sure because no Albanians ever left even one literal sentence for archeologists-yet they want us to believe they were the original neighbors of the most literate Greeks and Romans, who even wrote about China and Ethiopia but never a so-called Albania. Where were they? No saints, kings, poets-not even peasants are mentioned by any Byzantines. And no, the latter never considered Albanians Romans or “Byzantines”. In fact the Romans only used the word Roman for Greeks. Even Bulgarians when rules for centuries were never called Byzantines ie Romans. Not even Armenians or Coptics were called Romaioi. But many slavs (the “Macedonians”) and Albanians etc not only wish they were ancient Greeks but they want to be medieval Greeks too. Be proud of your ancestors were all part of the human story.
Textbooks in FYROM (i.e. “North Macedonia”) written by Albanian authors during the Soviet era (“North Macedonia”; “Macedonians” only make up 65% of FYROM; 25% is Albanian) never claimed Illyrian origins. They never taught Albanians were Illyrians but did go over Illyrian history.
In “Albanian identities: myth and history”, USA: Indiana University Press, p. 43, written essays by an assortment of western academics, they say of Kastrioti (Greek name):
“…an episode taken from medieval history was central for Albanian national mythology. In the absence of medieval kingdom or empire the Albanian nationalists chose Skanderbeg....”
They go in to explain,
“The need to combine communist and nationalist ideologies made necessary the elaboration and enlargement of the nationalist myths sometimes even their modification-through a technique of synchronized combination with communist myths. In analyzing this technique it is important to keep in mind that nationalist-communist ideology was represented in two forms: in its religious form claiming that the doctrine of Marx was ‘just, harmonious and complete’(Lenin); and in its theoretical form claiming that belief in this ideology was based on scientific knowledge, not on the unknown and the transcendental. In fact the ideology was neither a religion nor a theory, but a mutation of both. Acting as a belief, while asserting at the same time to be scholarly knowledge the national-communist ideology froze many truths (among them historical ones). There was thus a mutation of mythology into science and of science into mythology. For instance, the ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars during the 1950s, but when Enver Hoxha declared that their origin was Illyrian (without denying their Pelasgian roots) no one dared participate in further discussion of the question. During the communist era, literary and artistic activity as well as academic studies (especially historical and linguistic studies) all adhered to this pattern. By this means a virtual world was created in which Albanians lived within the propaganda framework ofthe party and of the literary, artistic and academic works which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theatres and exhibitions.
Sober-minded Albanians reject the Illyrian propaganda pushed by Hoxha too (Some Slavs including Croat/Serbs said they were Illyrians in the 19th cent too):
Albanian names bear witness to the historic drive to prove the Illyrian link.
Not Pandeli Pani. When he was born in Tirana in 1966, midway through the long dictatorship of Enver Hoxha, his father told the local registry office that he wished to name him after his grandfather.
Pani recalls his father’s hard-fought battle not to have to give his son an Illyrian name.
Staff at the civil registry office apparently said that naming the future linguistics professor after his grandfather was not a good idea, as he was dead. They suggested an approved Illyrian name instead.
“But the Illyrians aren’t alive either,” Pani recalls his father as quipping.
Many members of Pani’s generation born in the Sixties did not have such stubborn fathers. Their parents subscribed to the government policy of naming children after names drawn from ancient tombs.
In the eyes of the world, they aimed to cement the linkage between modern Albania and its supposedly ancient past.
“While I was named after my grandfather, keeping up a family tradition, other parents gave their children Illyrian names that I doubt they knew the meaning of,” says Pani, who today teaches at Jena university in Germany.
“But I doubt many parents today would want to name their children ‘Bledar’ or ‘Agron,’ when the first means ‘dead’ and the second ‘Arcadian,” he adds.
Pani says that despite the Hoxha regime’s efforts to burn the doctrine of the Albanians’ Illyrian origins into the nation’s consciousness, the theory has become increasingly anachronistic.
“The political pressure in which Albania’s scientific community worked after the Communists took over, made it difficult to deal with flaws with the doctrine of the Illyrian origin,” he said.
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
Austrian Scholars Leave Albania Lost for Words
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
balkaninsight.com/2011/03/25/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAlbanian%20is%20not%20as%20the,language's%20broad%20shape%20resembles%20Greek.Albanians likely came from the Carpathian Mountains near Romania. It’s why the two languages (Romanian and Albanian) share unique words only between themselves. The link is undeniable. Both share substrucutres in language unique to the two. There are native words in Albanian for certain trees in the carpathian region etc. No Albanian native coastal words but plenty of mountain words, meaning they weren’t a sea people while the Illyrians were infamous pirates and sailors. Likely the Albanians migrated during during the first millennium CE.
Here is one of the best answers on Quora:
George Demo's answer to Are the Albanians the descendants of the ancient Illyrians?
www.quora.com/Are-the-Albanians-the-descendants-of-the-ancient-Illyrians/answer/George-Demo?ch=17&oid=294623803&share=2938355a&srid=uKx2E&target_type=answerGenetically there are strong affiliations as well between the carpathians and Albania. To quote the author of the above Quora article regarding genetic evidence:
To clarify, their logic goes something along the lines of: J2b-L283 was found in southern Croatia which was inhabited by Illyrians, who are the descendants of the Albanians and there are Albanians who carry this subclade, therefore it’s proven that Albanians are Illyrians. Idiotic, I know. Below is an approximate map of where European subclades of E-V13 are present (which is the most common haplogroup amongst Albanians). You won’t come across any Albanian nationalist claim “Look, E-V13 is mostly concentrated in Albania and in the Carpathian Mountains. It’s proven that we descend from the Carpathians”, like they do with J2b-L283.
The diversity of haplogroups among modern Albanians reflect their complex ethnogenesis (Peričić et al. 2005; Battaglia et al. 2008): An origin of the Albanoid homeland close to the north-west Pontic region during the Iron Age, before their expansion and subsequent Y-DNA bottlenecks, is supported by the prevalent E1b1b1a1b1-L618 lineages (ca. 24-44%)-mainly V13+ (formed ca. 6100 BC, TMRCA ca. 2800 BC)-a haplogroup found previously in Neolithic Hungary and among Scythians
Most of the Illyrians lived from Montenegro all the way to northern Italy. Southern Albania was Greek and even in 1914 Albania was supposed to recognize their autonomy. John Wilkes the foremost modern authority on Illyrians says they should not be equated to the relatively shorter and swarthy Albanians. Illyrians were tall with light features and many speculate they may have been part Celt. They had similarities to celts also and lived as neighbors with them for centuries. Even Kastrioti is a Greek name and declares himself Greek epirote. His father and brother were Konstantinos and Giorgos. Why didn’t they use Albanian names? If Albanians had always been there we would have heard about them since they are between Greece and Italy the two centers of literacy in ancient Europe. Nor do other Europeans mention Albanians until the last millennium, maybe around tue 11-12th centuries. The via ignacia passes right through Albania but never do we hear of any Albanians from Roman’s or Greeks until medieval times. Yet the Romans/Byzantines knew about China, Ethiopia, and India but not a nation right in the backyard-actually in the middle of their years? The Carpathian hypothesis makes most sense under the circumstances and there is genetic-cultural connections to the area particularly with Romania, the Carpathian heartland. There are native Albanian words for trees found in the carpathians not not native to Albania, and Albanian vegetation often used borrowed words for things like specific oak trees etc. As
@@Vishnujanadasa108 🤣🤣🤣 Do you really think I am going to read all that fantastic novela?! Oh poor you! 😂
@@albanianmapping too many words? Need the comicbook version? no I didn’t it’s for intelligent persons with attention spans of mature adults. Deposit tears here 🥤
I'm glad you're making a bunch more videos these days
And serbs from Iran saying Kosova is serbia how ? They don’t even exist in ancient times look Kosovo called dardania and more bigger this is why we fight for ILIRYAN GLORY respect to your thrakia brothers in Bulgaria
illyria is only a theory
@@yungparadise7481 😂most dumb answer came from dumb people think before talk Ilirya mean freedom in Albanian with Albanian kings agron bardhyl dardanian kings today Kosova albanian real name bardhyl agron we have these names today stop beings jealous because iliryans were first civilization I dream about ilirya everyday to came back I don’t need milion euros I need ilirya empire back
When you fought for this lands?
And who are you?
Then why you claim Iperus?Iperus as you saw in this video was always Greek , so south albania is Greek
I love that whenever a video mentions albania, it basically turns into a battleground between Serbs and Albanians
We Bosniaks ,most of us,love Albania and Albanians. Kosovo is not Serbia.Sadly thousands of our Bosniak women and young girls suffered during the aggression ,(RAPED In Brutal Ways).We should be little devils also back then and stretched out Serbian women and girls but there is always time for that in the other round ( if it comes to it ).Srebrenica was also very sad and a war crime against us Bosnian Muslims……
Greek pseudo historians are usually the first to comment 🤣
Don't forget the Greeks too. They hate being left out.
What did Albanians 🇦🇱 have before the Ottoman invasion?
1. Albanians had a University in 1380 in Durrës. To give you an idea: Germany opened its first university, 6 years after Durrës (Heidelberg University).
2. Albanians had 6 fully developed cities as much as Florence, Venice, Marseille or Paris. (Durrës, Shkodra, Drishti, Lezha, Berat and Preveza).
3. Albanians had the aristocratic class with 8 noble families (Balshaj, Topiaj, Muzakaj, Kastrioti, Arianiti, Zebenishta, Spataj and Dukagjini) connected by marriage even with the Habsburgs and the Bourbons.
4. Albanians had the humanist philosophers, who with their genius ideas, were advisers to the imperial families in Hungary, Italy and Austria (Gjon Gazhuli, Pal Ungjëlli, Leonik Tomeo and Gjon Durrsaku).
5. Albanian cities had statutes and were governed by democracy while at the same time America for example it was governed by the Cherokee Indians or the Aztec tribes who still drank human blood and lived as cannibals.
6. In Durrës, intellectualism was so high that we have documented in the 12th century for the first time the note of protest of an Orthodox Metropolitan, who writes to Constantinople, against slavery, 300 years before it started as a debate in Europe.
7. In Durrës, trade was done even with Tunisia, Ukraine and France, since the 5th century. While at the same time for example the Scandinavian countries still lived by worshiping the tree or the mountain.
8. The Church of Albania had issued a Cardinal (and a cardinal was no small thing then).
What happened next? The Ottomans just came and for 500 years made that every Albanian forgot who they really were.
illyrians🇦🇱🇽🇰
@Mighty Triballian lol triballian. You came after 700AD. No ancient history for u people
@Mighty Triballian 700AD
@Mighty Triballian proNoSlavEsius
I-BY33164*, I-Y28222*, J-Z615*, R-CTS7556, R-CTS7556* 👈 Google it, and CRY SOME MORE. Where is Albanian ancient DNA marker? 🤣🤣🤣
Reality is hard. To escape it, some get high on drugs, others on delusions. You can call a fish a cow, but you will never be able to milk it.
Illyrian 😂😂😂
The Iron Gates Mesolithic (from Lepenski vir in Serbia) dates from 9500 BC to 5700 BC. Inhabitants of this culture were closely related to Western European hunter-gatheres but with same additional affinity toward Eastern European hunter-gathers and Anatolian Neolithic farmers. Their paternal haplogroups were I2 and R1b, which predominates in other European hunter-gatheres as well. The next culture in the Balkans is Starchevo culture, near-modern day Belgrade, dated to the Neolithic period between 5700 and 5300 BCE. A 2018 study published in Nature analyzed three samples from Croatia and one from Serbia. They belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup C, H2, and I2. For the first 1,700 years of agriculture in the Balkans, those Near Eastern farmers did not mix much with Mesolithic European hunter-gatherers in the Balkans. The few Mesolithic Balkanic lineages that were assimilated by farmers would belong to Y-DNA haplogroup I2. Following Starchevo, the Vinča culture emerged, flourishing in the same territory as the Starchevo culture between 5300-4500 BC. The 2017 and 2018 archaeogenetic studies on 15 samples show that all execept one belonged to the paternal Y-DNA haplogroup G, while the remaining samples belong to haplogroup H. Today 39% of Serbian people belong to a haplogroup I2a (Mesolithic hunter-gatheres), 1% to G, and 0% to H (Neolithic farmers). This indicates that Neolithic farmers settled in the Balkans in relatively small numbers compared to the indigenous population and were assimilated into the wider hunter-gatherer society. In addition, you are in the year of 7533. The old Serbian calendar stands as one of the oldest in the world. Unlike many modern calendars with four seasons, the old Serbian calendar simplifies time into two: summer and winter. Its divisions are based on the sun's influence on the north and south hemispheres. The knowledge of these solar effects on hemispheres, though mysterious, was recognized by the people in the past who celebrated the new year during the transition from winter to summer. This contrasts with the Gregorian calendar, which places the new year in the midst of winter, seemingly illogical from the calendars perspective. Serbia holds a unique distinction as one of the few nations with a symbol for time and the calendar, known as the Galactic Bow. This symbol, a curve intersected by two lines representing the shifts from winter to summer and vice versa, holds cultural significance, the Galactic Bow, alongside the Serbian cross and twenty Vinča script letters, has roots dating back to the Vinča civilization. This ancient European civilization flourished between 5300-4500 BCE, tying the Serbian calendar to the beginning of the Vinča civization. In essence, the old Serbian calendar carries the weight of centuries, blending history, tradition, and a deep understanding of celestial phenomena into a unique chronicle of time.
My Albanian pride I will not hide.
My Pelasgian ancestors I will not disgrace.
My illyrian blood flows hot and true.
My Albanian people I will stand by you.
Through thick and thin till the day we die,
our Albanian flag 🇦🇱 WILL ALWAYS FLY HIGH
Ahahaaa
Awww love it!
I love and respect from Serbia!
I've been there in June,I HAD SUCH AN AMAZING EXPIRIANCE! Thank you! Will come back soon🇷🇸🇦🇱❤..
Ridiculous
@@dusannn and so, thnx God some good serbs exists.
@@dusannn we need to find peace for Kosovo and stop fighting
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT SHOWS TRUE HISTORY OF ALBANIANS, this bulgarian deserves a sub
But Albania has no history
Only 100 years and even those are stolen
@@georgedemos3889 wdym, you modern greekss arent related to ancient greeks. and most historians say that we are illyrians, because we are in the lands and look exactly like them, and we speak the same language. We can read illyrian tablets, yall take hours to read 1 greek letter on an ancient greek tablet.
@@albanianedits the illirian language is a Greek dialect
@@georgedemos3889 when stupid????
@@georgedemos3889 yes an 🇦🇱 Greece and not ☦️Greece!!
Wow, what i great work 👏🤝. Keep it up with this great content bro 💯💯
🇦🇱🇽🇰❤🇧🇬
Albanians have absolutely nothing to do with Illyrians. If anything the tall Serb/Croats have more affiliation in culture and physical looks. Albanians in the 20th century wanted to abandon their Turkish identity and embrace Europe-the intelligentsia that is, the common Albanian loved to call himself Turk. They are Muslims after all.
Albanians are related to Romanians and are not even indigenous to Albania, who were always a small minority in Greece. There were maybe a couple thousand for instance in Athens at most in the early 1800s.
Southern Albania still has Greeks as it is really northern Epirus. Albanians are likely from the Carpathian Mountains, since they also have many similarities to the substrate of Romanian. We can’t say for sure because no Albanians ever left even one literal sentence for archeologists-yet they want us to believe they were the original neighbors of the most literate Greeks and Romans, who even wrote about China and Ethiopia but never a so-called Albania. Where were they? No saints, kings, poets-not even peasants are mentioned by any Byzantines. And no, the latter never considered Albanians Romans or “Byzantines”. In fact the Romans only used the word Roman for Greeks. Even Bulgarians when rules for centuries were never called Byzantines ie Romans. Not even Armenians or Coptics were called Romaioi. But many slavs (the “Macedonians”) and Albanians etc not only wish they were ancient Greeks but they want to be medieval Greeks too. Be proud of your ancestors were all part of the human story.
Textbooks in FYROM (i.e. “North Macedonia”) written by Albanian authors during the Soviet era (“North Macedonia”; “Macedonians” only make up 65% of FYROM; 25% is Albanian) never claimed Illyrian origins. They never taught Albanians were Illyrians but did go over Illyrian history.
In “Albanian identities: myth and history”, USA: Indiana University Press, p. 43, written essays by an assortment of western academics, they say of Kastrioti (Greek name):
“…an episode taken from medieval history was central for Albanian national mythology. In the absence of medieval kingdom or empire the Albanian nationalists chose Skanderbeg....”
They go in to explain,
“The need to combine communist and nationalist ideologies made necessary the elaboration and enlargement of the nationalist myths sometimes even their modification-through a technique of synchronized combination with communist myths. In analyzing this technique it is important to keep in mind that nationalist-communist ideology was represented in two forms: in its religious form claiming that the doctrine of Marx was ‘just, harmonious and complete’(Lenin); and in its theoretical form claiming that belief in this ideology was based on scientific knowledge, not on the unknown and the transcendental. In fact the ideology was neither a religion nor a theory, but a mutation of both. Acting as a belief, while asserting at the same time to be scholarly knowledge the national-communist ideology froze many truths (among them historical ones). There was thus a mutation of mythology into science and of science into mythology. For instance, the ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars during the 1950s, but when Enver Hoxha declared that their origin was Illyrian (without denying their Pelasgian roots) no one dared participate in further discussion of the question. During the communist era, literary and artistic activity as well as academic studies (especially historical and linguistic studies) all adhered to this pattern. By this means a virtual world was created in which Albanians lived within the propaganda framework ofthe party and of the literary, artistic and academic works which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theatres and exhibitions.
Sober-minded Albanians reject the Illyrian propaganda pushed by Hoxha too (Some Slavs including Croat/Serbs said they were Illyrians in the 19th cent too):
Albanian names bear witness to the historic drive to prove the Illyrian link.
Not Pandeli Pani. When he was born in Tirana in 1966, midway through the long dictatorship of Enver Hoxha, his father told the local registry office that he wished to name him after his grandfather.
Pani recalls his father’s hard-fought battle not to have to give his son an Illyrian name.
Staff at the civil registry office apparently said that naming the future linguistics professor after his grandfather was not a good idea, as he was dead. They suggested an approved Illyrian name instead.
“But the Illyrians aren’t alive either,” Pani recalls his father as quipping.
Many members of Pani’s generation born in the Sixties did not have such stubborn fathers. Their parents subscribed to the government policy of naming children after names drawn from ancient tombs.
In the eyes of the world, they aimed to cement the linkage between modern Albania and its supposedly ancient past.
“While I was named after my grandfather, keeping up a family tradition, other parents gave their children Illyrian names that I doubt they knew the meaning of,” says Pani, who today teaches at Jena university in Germany.
“But I doubt many parents today would want to name their children ‘Bledar’ or ‘Agron,’ when the first means ‘dead’ and the second ‘Arcadian,” he adds.
Pani says that despite the Hoxha regime’s efforts to burn the doctrine of the Albanians’ Illyrian origins into the nation’s consciousness, the theory has become increasingly anachronistic.
“The political pressure in which Albania’s scientific community worked after the Communists took over, made it difficult to deal with flaws with the doctrine of the Illyrian origin,” he said.
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
Austrian Scholars Leave Albania Lost for Words
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
balkaninsight.com/2011/03/25/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAlbanian%20is%20not%20as%20the,language's%20broad%20shape%20resembles%20Greek.Albanians likely came from the Carpathian Mountains near Romania. It’s why the two languages (Romanian and Albanian) share unique words only between themselves. The link is undeniable. Both share substrucutres in language unique to the two. There are native words in Albanian for certain trees in the carpathian region etc. No Albanian native coastal words but plenty of mountain words, meaning they weren’t a sea people while the Illyrians were infamous pirates and sailors. Likely the Albanians migrated during during the first millennium CE.
Here is one of the best answers on Quora:
George Demo's answer to Are the Albanians the descendants of the ancient Illyrians?
www.quora.com/Are-the-Albanians-the-descendants-of-the-ancient-Illyrians/answer/George-Demo?ch=17&oid=294623803&share=2938355a&srid=uKx2E&target_type=answerGenetically there are strong affiliations as well between the carpathians and Albania. To quote the author of the above Quora article regarding genetic evidence:
To clarify, their logic goes something along the lines of: J2b-L283 was found in southern Croatia which was inhabited by Illyrians, who are the descendants of the Albanians and there are Albanians who carry this subclade, therefore it’s proven that Albanians are Illyrians. Idiotic, I know. Below is an approximate map of where European subclades of E-V13 are present (which is the most common haplogroup amongst Albanians). You won’t come across any Albanian nationalist claim “Look, E-V13 is mostly concentrated in Albania and in the Carpathian Mountains. It’s proven that we descend from the Carpathians”, like they do with J2b-L283.
The diversity of haplogroups among modern Albanians reflect their complex ethnogenesis (Peričić et al. 2005; Battaglia et al. 2008): An origin of the Albanoid homeland close to the north-west Pontic region during the Iron Age, before their expansion and subsequent Y-DNA bottlenecks, is supported by the prevalent E1b1b1a1b1-L618 lineages (ca. 24-44%)-mainly V13+ (formed ca. 6100 BC, TMRCA ca. 2800 BC)-a haplogroup found previously in Neolithic Hungary and among Scythians
Most of the Illyrians lived from Montenegro all the way to northern Italy. Southern Albania was Greek and even in 1914 Albania was supposed to recognize their autonomy. John Wilkes the foremost modern authority on Illyrians says they should not be equated to the relatively shorter and swarthy Albanians. Illyrians were tall with light features and many speculate they may have been part Celt. They had similarities to celts also and lived as neighbors with them for centuries. Even Kastrioti is a Greek name and declares himself Greek epirote. His father and brother were Konstantinos and Giorgos. Why didn’t they use Albanian names? If Albanians had always been there we would have heard about them since they are between Greece and Italy the two centers of literacy in ancient Europe. Nor do other Europeans mention Albanians until the last millennium, maybe around tue 11-12th centuries. The via ignacia passes right through Albania but never do we hear of any Albanians from Roman’s or Greeks until medieval times. Yet the Romans/Byzantines knew about China, Ethiopia, and India but not a nation right in the backyard-actually in the middle of their years? The Carpathian hypothesis makes most sense under the circumstances and there is genetic-cultural connections to the area particularly with Romania, the Carpathian heartland. There are native Albanian words for trees found in the carpathians not not native to Albania, and Albanian vegetation often used borrowed words for things like specific oak trees etc. As
Hello from Serbia 🇷🇸🇧🇬
Long live Dardania and the Albanian Dardha tribe. Long live the Illyrian tribe of Arianit and Gjergj Arianiti!
Hahaha cfare thua aman Dardani ishte djali i Zeusit e per kete ja vuri emrin Dardani
Edhe vajza e Zeuisit e kishte emrin Evrop ne keshtu e mori emrin kontinenti Europian
Very nice video, i love it. amazing work👍
Fake propaganda,albanians are not illyrians they are made in 1912
Great job
Very thourough documentary. Good job!
Супер е , много време си вложил, само заглавието поправи.
Чак сега го видях хахаха!
Naistina evala brato, stra6na rabota. Blagoderia :)
Love Bulgaria and Bulgarian people in my town in Elbasan we have gollobordas Bulgarians who been here for very long time and they speak a very old bulgarian dialect good people
Love from your Thracian brothers🇦🇱🇧🇬🇷🇴 ❤❤
I am yet to understand why dont Albanians and Bulgarians dont get along like Greeks and Serbs... yes we have some overlapping claims but our anti-Serb, anti-Greek, anti-Macedonian, anti-Turkish mentallity are far greater than a bit of territory.
(This is my opinion, if you don't agree, that's fine, don't go starting a debate, I respect your opinion and I wish for yall to do the same)
@@wrecked8746 yes vlla, but alone, we cannot last forever. I'm not saying bulgarians are the best slavs, cause if so Croats probably are...
Po tash per tash, nuk kemi naj zgjidhje tjeter.
@@wrecked8746 na i kem mbijetu Romes e Turkut, po globalizmit sdo i mbijetojme kshtu.
Cdo qeveri po na del ma e keqe se tjetra.
@@wrecked8746 go ahead AND D9 A DNA TEST I FUCKING DARE YOU 😂
@@wrecked8746 dont know bro i am arvanite related and it showed that i am 87% greek 11% italian and 2%otherinorities sooooo, yeah
Anti Turkish jajaja
When serbs talk about albanians..🙄
He is Bulgarian
Don’t get me started on the whole Kosovo debate
@Mighty Triballian 😂
@@lyd6826 Please dont start it🤣 Im seeing too much in sum comments🤣😫
Leke Dukajini is such a fun name to say!
Rarely do I click so fast on a notification
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love albania from turkey 🇹🇷🇦🇱
This is albanian flag 🇦🇱 this is Bulgarian flag
@@bulgariannationalist1637 you are Pakistani🤣
Well done bro 👍👍
We Bosniaks ,most of us,love Albania and Albanians. Kosovo is not Serbia.Sadly thousands of our Bosniak women and young girls suffered during the aggression ,(RAPED In Brutal Ways).We should be little devils also back then and stretched out Serbian women and girls but there is always time for that in the other round ( if it comes to it ).Srebrenica was also very sad and a war crime against us Bosnian Muslims……
i never got a notification, could i also please contact you? Good Video !
PERFECT MAN 🇦🇱🇦🇱
I thought you're gonna change history because you're bulgarian and support Serbia but I was wrong!
You gained a new subcriber, greetings from Kosovo 🇽🇰🇦🇱
When did Bulgaria ever support Serbia? If you knew history as you don't and as you make it up, you would never say something like this!!!
@@MikaMS030 Who really asked for your opinion?! Mind your own bussines!
@@MikaMS030 plenty of times, 1878, 1903 trade agreement, 1912 march agreement to partition Albania and Macedonia between themselves, first Balkan war, ww1 with Bulgaria occupying Albanian inhabited lands and committing massacres. ww2 occupying Albanian lands once again in eastern Kosovo and western Macedonia. The list goes on and on. The only reason why Bulgarians dont like serbs is because they didnt get what they wanted, had they got everything they wouldnt have hated the serbs nor stopped them against albanina massacres
@MH-jg6vk In 1878 Bulgaria didn't even exist. Bulgarians were massacred by Ottomans and thus a semi independent Bulgarian state was crested in 1878.
The decision of 1878 was a Russian one.
What about 1903?
In the 1st Balkan War , Albanian lands were devided between Servs and neo greeks.
In ww2 most Albanian lands were under Albanian control.
Albanians and Bulgarians share common interests in Balkans and should cooperate and create an alliance
@@MikaMS030because bulgars serbs speak same language just like macedon kyrylic language from Russia Ukraine
1:30 During that time Illyria had no king, it had a queen named Teuta, she was betrayed and her country was conquered by Rome.
Great Video you fully based in history ...
Good stuff! :)
Actually the original name used by Albanian was Arbëreshë, Shqiprie is a new term used since XVII century
Albania used to be called "Arbnia or Arberia".. it was around 832 years ago...
great video
Respect, that you tell the truth!
This doesn't have anything with the truth. Nice try, but you can't change historical facts. First of all, you aren't Ilijans. That proves genetic analisis. Secondly, after Dusan Silni and Serbian Empire there has been many Serbian land, not Albania. You become Albania when Austo-Hungary empire gave you contry, just to stop Serbia to get on the sea, even if Serbian army free all that occupated teritory. All what I'm saying has profe whit facts. And once again, nice try of you Bulgarian friend. Now I can say that Albania was on Black sea, and that you lived on the east cost.
@@_callio I know you like to steal everything, including history, but you won't get away with it.
@@MikaMS030 genetic analisis? Genetic analisis or whatever based on ancient people corpses found in croatia,montenegro and albania which date back to 3 to 4000 years ago had the haplogroup ev13 which is the most dominant beared by albanians,so what you on about slav?
Pogger albania
Respect Bulgarian people but the Albanian language is most lickely formed in todays Kosovo Area because we can find illirian words proto Romanian words and Thracian words
And alot of celtic and Vulgar latin
Its most lickly a mix of Illirian and
Thracian language with a significant ad mixure around 50% of the language with Vulgar Latin and Celtic and Dorian Greek
The thing is that the Albanian languages doesnt have as many sea words as it is speculated for the pure illirian language to have thats why alot of mojor linguists and scientists put Albanians North Central Albania in Dardania(Kosovo) south Serbia and (North Macedonia)
But its probably a sub dialect of the illirian language spoken for more than 2.000 years
Then this theory proved wrong as albanians do have many sea words. Also nearly 50% of our language and words are roman latin words illyrised with illyrian phonetics. And not being near the sea does not mean being in kosovo as Albanopolis was on lake Ohrid
3:52 and also a very important family was the Balsha family up in montenegro
Respect
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And your family is Muslim 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂. Albanians change religion every few days. When you find out that illyrians were Jews you will become Jews too. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@kosovoisserbia8937 get a life stop the bs
Orthodox?
Wrong symbols ☪️☪️
@@wankawanka3053 it’s not turk
I am pelasgus from the star 🌟 sirius son of eagle 🦅 (son of zeus )
Ahahahahaha
@Mighty Triballian how do u know it was satem?
@Mighty Triballian how come? Where is the connection
Larpers of the greeks
Aren’t Illyrians supposed to be older in the region than any Greek tribe?
Of course yes, speaking all Albanian language
@@shpresa6939who told u that u can comment ?
@@metigame1450grece Are from North Africa just like slavs from today Ukraine Russia nothing to do with Balkan history
@@shpresa6939😅😅😅
Yes they are older than Greeks, or I might say so-called Greeks might have the same DNA as Albanians.
Beautiful 🇬🇷 Hellenic pride 💪🏼
😂
@@patriotalbanian3205 where Albania again ??? 😂
@@davidscwimer1974 where Greece again?
@@patriotalbanian3205 just open a history book 😂
@@davidscwimer1974 which history book the real one or Greece lies propaganda one 😂
Nice video, it just has some mistakes. Albanians are not Illyrians, Albanian language doesn't come from Illyrian, nor does their culture.
U wouldnt know because you are a slav and came late
Our language and culture is the result of all that came out of Balkans since antiquity, one of the reasons historians called us, Illyrians, Epirots, Macedon, Dardans.
48th yay 😀
There is no confirmed historical or archaeological evidence relating Albanians to Illyrians . Most important there are not ancient writer's references to verify the interaction of the two peoples. Albanians throughout their known history never had or been using any alphabet until 1906.
It will be extremely interesting for more historical information , if available , to be made known.
1:31 queen teuta got betrayed and the illyrian falled to romans
We do a little organ harvesting
Lmao
@@historyrhymes1701 don't play along to Serbian propaganda. There is 0 evidence of that.
BRM...when the Serbs accuse others about organ harvesting is like Hitler who accuses Jews of being Nazis...
@@lagjescuni5482 @mat topia do you lads not get what a joke is?
@@brm5844 I didn't understand it was a joke but believe me that if a lie is repeated many times then some people start to believe it
you just forgot to mention that they came from caucasus albania and that they aint illyran ....
Just like Serbia even Caucas belongs to Us! 🇦🇱
@@ilgrandearthas6429 Caucasus Is only thing that belongs to you. Now go there with azwrbejan mother.
hahahhahaha ur a joke 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@@kosovoisserbia8937
Ok but first dont forget to obtain permission before traveling around in Dardania 🤣🤣
@@ilgrandearthas6429 i was there for Kosovo battle celebration on 28th June. Liars i didn't even cross any borther when coming to Mitrovica and then Kosovo field.
Love albania☝🏻
Thanks bro
You can knock them down but they stand right back up, never out. Now spread all over the world.
Αφού τρέχουνε στα σύνορα, κολυμπησαν μέχρι το Μπάρι, φαγαν τα πόδια τους μέχρι την Καστοριά, με την βαρκούλα μεχρι το Λονδίνο
Yes but, they are not Illyrians💁♂️
We know you are not iliryans
Amazing be this!👍
@@bulgariannationalist1637 yes, becouse they never existed, Greeks call all northern ,,barbarians,, Illyrians and Thracians
@@milosmaksimovic6103 Albanians are Illyrians and are the first people in the Balkans, when the Albanians "Illyrians" existed in the Balkans, the Greeks had not yet come from Asia Minor and Lebanon, while Serbian immigrants had not yet come from Siberia
@@equilibrium8751 first, why Greeks never write something about ,,mighty Illyrians,, ohh look, but they have writings about Slavs.
Secound, Serbs ( Slavs ), and all people in world know that Siberia is one of te coldest places in the world, non people start creating their life, Siberia is settled many centuries after.
I cant write to someone like you natsionalis who believe thet they are ,,Illyrians,, without proofs
Albanians not is Illyrians
That and any other delusions you like to tell yourself
Lol go to your homeland Siberia to drink sam vodka
Pls learn sum history
@@anonymous_7763 Which history? That whom is supported by Serbo-Russian propaganda. FO!
Ofcourse you say that, cause then Serbia can not claim Kosovo 🤡
i want to thank so much
i always was curious about my countries history, i knew how we became independent in 1912 but the only thing i knew before that was skenderbeg
ive always wanted to know about the history before that, and this brief video gave so much info
this is the video i needed for a long time
greetings from serbia
No connection between Albanian and Illyrians.
excluding the fact that messapic is proben to be related to Albanian and genetic evidence as well as Albanii the illyrian teibe mentioned by Herodut.
iF YOU HAVE TO SPEAK THAT UNINTELLIGIBLY, YOU SHOULD AT LEAST SUPPLY SUBTITLES
We Bosniaks ,most of us,love Albania and Albanians. Kosovo is not Serbia.Sadly thousands of our Bosniak women and young girls suffered during the aggression ,(RAPED In Brutal Ways).We should be little devils also back then and stretched out Serbian women and girls but there is always time for that in the other round ( if it comes to it ).Srebrenica was also very sad and a war crime against us Bosnian Muslims……
The fact you advocate for r*pe just proves my belief that Sl*vs are a inf*rior r*ce with no good individu*ls or pe*ple with individu*l character values but rather a collective hatred. This just allows me to hate all not some of you immoral Sl*vs on a origins to origins basis instead of individual character.
Rapist
ndegjoni istori o derra slav
"As has been noted above, the first millennium of Albanian history had little to do with the Albanian peoples themselves. As an ethnic group, the Albanians first emerged from the mists of history in the early years of the second millennium A.D."
Robert Elsie, Keeping an Eye on the Albanians: Selected Writings in the Field of Albanian Studies, 2015, p. 11-40.
Yet, Slavs on the Balkans have more than 70% Balkan genes. No need for hate. Ukraine and central Europe produced a lot of food that contributed to expansion of Slavs. Being a coast tribe had very bad position. They couldn't stand the chance. It was not because Slavs were agresive or something.
There are 3 types of haplotype in the Balkans the further north from Croatia they have I2a which is link to the slavic migration ... E3b-v13 and J2b is common among Albanians but Serbs and bulgerian have this haplotype too due but is more common among Albanians .. but both Serbs have mix more common is albanian integrating into serbian society due to it being more powerful bulgerian is a mix of Bulgars and thricans that why they have high percentage of E3b-v13
When slavs arrived illyrians where already weakened by hundread of years of barbarian incursions like gotes, avars, mthebids, vandals, huns etc..
It said that albania in 3 century was being created but comming from caucas.
Nice video. Can you just give me some proof? for example Something wroten on Ilyrian or Albanian language? some grave of your great Kings or maybe some old Albanian Artifacts?
Look st the city names that survived. You can translate the cities only on Albanian bojan
@@Stratioti11no illyrian word not to mention thrakian, which have high affinity towards Balto Slavic, can be explained by Albanian. Absence of Albanian toponyms in any part of ancient illyric while we have preserved Roman and Celtic ones tells enough
@@nebitno5054 brindisi was founded By the illyrian messapic tribe. The Name brindisi can only be translated With the Albanian language
Brin Means beak
Dhi means goat
So Brindhisi means goatbeak because of the entrance in the Port of brindisi.
The illyrian City Dimal is located in South albania between two mountains.
Di or dy means two in Albanian.
Mal means mountain.
@@Stratioti11I prefer kingdom of arbèria flag is better
@@Stratioti11
The whole world knows that Albania was created by Austria, Germany, and Italy. At the peace treaty in 1919. For TURKISH MERCENARIES ALBANIANS. From Albania, now Azerbaijan in Asia.
Just translate in Albanian this you will see every thing was Albanian shpata (trojet tona) ( i lir) in English sparta troya illirya
Now you even claim sparta 😂😂😂😂
@@wankawanka3053 grece has steal troya sparta from Illiryans Albanians tell me why grek attack city of troya ?because was found from a dardanian Albanian ilir from naissus today nis
@@patriotalbanian3205 sparta was greek sparta is a Greek city not albanian
@@mrtrollnator123 first sparta was province not city second grece didn’t exist in that time neither Albania sparta was Illiryan
@@patriotalbanian3205 greece did exist at that time. The ancient Greek city states. Sparta was one of then. They spoke Greek. They wrote in the Greek alphabet. They were not albanian for God's sake
Did know Albania is that old..
Know u do
🇦🇱Illyria🇦🇱
Vellezerit Dhimtri dhe Gjini I Arberit
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 is it even possible to commit forgery on this scale
Albanians have their origin from the Caucasus and that is what all historical sources say.
No they have Berber origin with predominant factor of romanised Greek population
@@nebitno5054 if the Berbers lived in the Caucasus at that time, it is not recorded anywhere. Albanians have been presenting them ever since and show their geographical location in today's Azerbaijan. They certainly have nothing to do with the Greeks and the Illyrians.
@@nebitno5054 I laugh at them every time they tell me that they are descendants of the Illyrians and Achilles and when I talk to them with historical sources they don't know what to tell me and they just don't answer me.
@@user-qm8gh3eo1u me too, but u should check out George Maniakes and arrival of Albanians (even there name suggest that they are foreign) btw they got mad whan u point out not single Byzantine chronicle mentioned them as native. And last they have genetically predominant greek component because they arbanised a lot of Greeks that's what I was saying
@@nebitno5054 in today's albania, almost half of it is Northern Epirus where the inhabitants are Greeks. Albanians are the northern part of Albania and of course Kosovo, but as many studies have been done they have nothing to do with the Illyrians and the Greeks. if you you are talking about Arvanites, they are not Albanians.
zoti me ne vllezer
Yes skenderbeu was a good strong Christian ✝️ man but the people there now are arabs withe Muslim from arabia so arabs live there now
SqhiptAR bulgAR tatAR kazhAR notice anything???😚
Asian nomads
@@rogersmith7525 🤡
You know, ARber, do you notice anything?
"Shqiptare" it's a different thing.
This has nothing with the truth. I don't understand how can you change the history facts.
Btw, Skedenberg was Serb.
If you speak the truth, less argue would be on Balkan. Especially between Albanians and Serbs.
Facts by Deretic
Hahah serbs only stole history 😂😂😂
Your heroes are warcriminals
Skanderbeg is Albanian
Skanderbeg's contemporaries and early biographers all considered him an Albanian. According to Marin Barleti (fl. 1508), his main biographer, he was an Albanian fighting for Albanian freedom alongside his fellow Albanians.
Here's a few archival sources:
1. A report of the envoy of the Duke of Milan from 1454 calls Skanderbeg "an Albanian Christian" ("quello Sanderbech...è christiano Albanexe").
2. The Italian humanist and poet Antonio Bonfini Asculano (1427-1502) calls Skanderbeg an "Albanian prince" ("Sandorbegum Albanensem Principem").
3. Even the Venetians never questioned his Albanian origins. In 1464, a Venetian senator angrily said of Skanderbeg, that "we do not trust him at all, because he is Albanian, treacherous and dangerous" ("nuy non si fidamo di luy per niente, perche è Albanese et è traditore et tristo!").
4. In 1464, the Duke of Milan, Francesco Sforza, wrote a letter to Skanderbeg, Addressing him with these words: "The excellent and powerful lord, like our dear brother, the Albanian lord Gjergj Kastrioti, called Skanderbeg". ("Illustri et potenti Domino tanquam fratri nostro carissimo Domino Georgio Castriot Aliter Scanderbeg albanesi").
5. In a letter from Giovanni Antonio, the prince of Taranto, on October 31, 1460, at the beginning of the letter he addresses Skanderbeg with these words: "Giovanni Antonio, prince of Taranto, sends greetings to George the Albanian!" ("loannes Antonius princeps Tarenti Georgio Albano salutem!"). He goes on to say: "Italian blood is not afraid of the Albanian face!" (nec faciam Albanam timebit Italicus sanguis!") and other such insults to the Albanians.
Likewise Ottoman sources, historians and chroniclers, describe him as being Albanian:
Aşıkpaşazade (1400-1484)
Tursun Beg (1420-1499)
Mehmed Neşri (1450-1520)
Idris Bitlisi (1457-1520)
Ibn Kemal (1468-1534)
Sadeddin Efendi (1536-1599)
Mustafa Ali (1541-1600)
Solakzade (1592-1658) and others, all describe him as being an Albanian (arnavud).
Hoca Sâdeddin Efendi (1536-1599), in his Tacü't- Tevarih, says:
"The Albanian ruler had a handsome son named Iskender, whose bodily figure inspired love, while his attractive face was an expression of his beauty and grace."
Ibn Kemal (1468-1534) writes: "The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battlefield, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse..."
Skanderbeg's own testimony, however, is stronger than both Western and Ottoman sources combined. So what excatly did he say about himself? Let's see how he replied to that albanophobe guy cited above, namely Giovanni Antonio of Taranto who had insulted the Albanian nation:
"Moreover, you scorn our people, and compared the Albanians to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with only insults. It would seem you know nothing of the origins of our race. Our elders were the Epirotes from whence Pyrrhus himself came forth, the might of whom the Romans could barely withstand. Those very Epirotes whom with their weapons set forth and conquered Taranto and much of Italy.There exists no challenge to their might from the likes of the Tarantines, a species of wet men born only to catch fish.
And since you proclaim Albania as part of Macedonia, you grant also then, our elders as nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great, defeating all the people that came before them with great ease.
From those men descend these who you now call sheep. But the nature of things have not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?" (Taken from Pope Pius the II's Commentaries)
To serbs who Claim Skenderbeg, The issue is that 80% of todays serbians are Albanian origin. They are Albanians asimilated via orthodox church..
So, we know, yes Skenderbeg belongs to you as well, but belongs only to your Albanians part 🤣🤣
So Shqipe go on!! claim your real root, rise your real flag🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
throw away the fake one, Speak your grandfathers real Language 🇦🇱!!
He was Greek. George Kastriotis. Kastriotis is greek surname and he used the Greek Byzantine flag
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Not only Kastriot, but Also name Greek or Hellas itself is Albanian!
@@DCCrisisclips fucking lmao
@@ilgrandearthas6429 😂😂😂now you are making us laugh your pseudo linguists can claim all the words in the word but still too bad you'll never find written evidence unlike all the documented greek evidence 😚
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Well all so called greek documents are full of Albanian words.. Even greece itself is full of Albanian names so we might have used so called "greek" alphabet but it is full of Albanian words.
So let me know What does Hellen or mean? Greak mean? Zotiko mean? or Hellas mean?
Your greek idiotism is in global scale unfortunatelly.. You have less(27) letter then us(36) in your alphabet but you are not ashame of claiming e everything that in reality belong to us. İts pitty for worlds cultural heritage that such a big civilisation have been tried to be explained with a poor form of writing such the greek one.
Exactly Albania is a small place in reality but they are dreaming big Albania and places that they never been in the past.
What about arvanites in greece? Have we never been in greece? Where the population has been differs from where albanians were free and independent
@@denissaliaj9459 so this is excuse because you can not answer? Secondly we noone is sure about who was this Arvanites. 3rd was a small minority who takes greek land With the help of ottomans according to greek heros memoirs
@@gelisgeo1309 principality of Arta check it out in this video. Arvanites are still today speaking their version of albanian as a culture. And ethnic maps of ottoman empire shows where they have lived and thats preety much the whole attika northern peloponese and thebes livadia. Principality of arta was 100 year before the ottomans and who knows how older they were in this land. According to greek propaganda everything albanian was ottoman but its 2021 its shameful to have 1921s thoughts and mentality
@@denissaliaj9459 yes yes your version of the Albanian fairytails. Arta is the ancient greek city Amvrakia one of the biggest cities of later Helkinistic Epirotic Union .Nothing common with Albania. There was never exist Arta principality . There was the byzantine Despotato Of Epirus with capital city Arta. Absolutely greek . As well know from ottomans the albanians in Epirus was 1/20 families.....even the Jew was much more. You are lucky because i am from this place and I can educate you..
For the end few people in greece speak the multetnic language of arvanitika (which actually was 3-4 dialects with all the balcanic languages and albanian grammar ) . It is no coincidence that all Arvanites deny the connection to the Sqiperia origin. On the other hand your half population are in reality Greek and all your cities have greek names....
@@gelisgeo1309 greek toponymes are because of colonialism and im not afraid to deny the truth. The procedure of colonies in antiquity was simple. Greek aristocracy and native population. The population was not greek but your propaganda teaches that there was greek population even in today's monaco. But to deny the principality of arta means denying all the history of greece. Today Arberesh who were from morea still speak albanian version in sicily. Check a video on youtube where arvanites arberesh and albanian compare their words. We understand eachother. Greeks in albania have a population of 6000 inhabitants while tosks only are 1.600.000. Arta was the center of albanians in greece and the word arta means golden. If we speak about antiquity herodotus itself tells that epirotes were barbarians and illyrian borders are in ambracia
we have Bulgarian Muniroty but also Bulgarian have Albanian Miniroty
The place called Greece never existed before as we know it today. The people who live in so called Greece today used to be called "Romej" during Byzantine Empire and "Raja" during Ottoman Empire times (except the Arvanitas who used to be called always by their name like "Albani", "Arbanoi", etc.) and the name "Greece" never existed during Byzantine times.
The people who live in the so called Greece today are NOT the descendants of ancient Greece (as the world history knows it). That ancient culture and civilization, went extinct times ago, like many other ancient civilizations (like Latin civilization as well, language of which is spoken only in the certain official religious ceremonies in Vatican today and for international medical terminology).
During Ottoman times in the Balkans, after the big powers pushed for an uprising in the place that today is called "Greece", an independent country was formed in 1821-1832. The majority of the population there was of Arvanitas (and Chameria) stock, they also were the backbone of the uprising for independence from the Ottoman Empire. The rest of the minority population was of Slav, Turks and Aromanian stock.
After the gain of independence the place was so divided, and with a prolonged civil war that a real country could not be formed.
Fearing the disintegration of the place after Ottomans left (and possibility of a return of the Ottomans), Prince Otto of Germany was brought in by European powers to clear the mess and do nation - building there. He was proclaimed King of the place by big powers and given plenipotentiary powers.
The Price Otto royal family in Germany happen to be an admirer of the ancient civilizations, one of them being the extinct ancient Greek civilization, traces and archeological findings of which are also seen in that region called today
"Greece" as well.
Being an ancient history romantic and buff, Otto came up with the idea, that the only way to keep the place together and for a chance to build a country there, was to adopt/impose some kind of neutral/foreign ancient language and culture
for all people living in that place, that will make possible for the people to stick together under one language and culture imposed on them.
So with a special royal decree, he proclaimed a version of the ancient Greek (the easier one to be taught and learned by people there in those times) as an official language of the place, and also came up with the new name for the
place, calling it with a special royal decree "Greece".
Everything else was banned, and the new "country" formed, was ordered to be rebuild anew in resemblance of the old romantic view of the ancient Greek civilization, starting with the buildings, names of people, places, cities and villages, regions, mountains, fields and all were changed to made-up names loaned by the ancient literature of ancient Greek
civilization.
This of course was associated with money brought by European powers to rebuild. The more people in that place agreed with the change of their true national and ethnic identity and declare themselves artificially "Greeks/Helenes" and adopt to the new order, the more money was to be pouring in.
Naturally, the strongest resistance to this artificial and made-up solution, was made by the Arvanitas (and Chameria), but at no avail.
It is legendary, the loss by one vote in the Price Otto's Parliament of that time, of Arvanitas proposal to have the Albanian
(Arvanite) language as an official language of the place called 'Greece" today, and to call the new country "Arvanoi" (instead of "Greece").
There is plenty of scientific and factual evidence, archival and historical documents, as well as studies and publications by major authors and authorities in the field about as above.
One interesting fact here, is that one of the earlier German/Austrian well known historians and scientists of that time, Fallmerayer, alerted Prince Otto and others to this nonsense, of declaring a whole people and place by a
name not belonging to them, and injecting an extinct language, culture and civilization on people who had no idea about it and did not belong to it at all. Well, Fallmerayer may have proven to be right.
By the way, Fallmerayer, is a banned figure and historian in what is called Greece today.
Germany is still paying for the Otto's mistake, even today. It has gotten stuck with the country so called "Greece". It is now forced to pour free money, even today, out of Germany's pocket (through European Union as well) year after year to keep it alive and going, as this "Greece" cannot stand on its own. It is an artificial creation of Prince Otto's fantasy (a "zombie" country so to speak), and the new generations of the Germans and Europeans are continuing to pay the price for it.
Moreover, what Prince Otto did back then, is tantamount to ethnic cleansing. He forced inhabitants of a whole region/place (called "Greece" today) to change by force their culture, language, national and ethnic identity to something
else that those people were not, so they could artificially change in order to look modern and civilized (like ancient Greeks in Otto's personal view) and possibly be united. And of course, Arvanites and Chams (as the majority population in the region) suffered mostly from this ethnic cleansing.
All this revelation, informs another major point: history taught about what today is called Greece, it appears to be taught wrong. People are wrongly taught in schools that today's Greece and its people are the direct descendants of ancient Greeks. Greece and Greeks of today, in some extend, also think they are superior to others just because they are called
"Greeks" and their country "Greece" by decree (not by the virtue of the truth). They also seem to believe for some reason, they are entitled to the German and European money being handed out to them.
The school textbooks and historiography should change, telling people the truth as it is. And with this, will come many other changes, in the way we see relations with the country called "Greece" today
love from serbia
What the fuck are you doing. No love to them
@@serbianwarrior5930 what the fuck are you doing here if you hate us
@@serbianwarrior5930inbred.
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Albanian history is longer than 2000 years let alone 6 minutes dating back to Pelasgians
U ppl can't possible believe this? Is all of Albania illiterate?
3,000 years.
What is this💀?
Novokomponovana istorija brt. Msm kapiram da moraju da izmisljaju da bi se opravdali.
Ilirians 🇦🇱🦅🇦🇱🦅🇦🇱🦅🇦🇱🇦🇱🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Albanians are related to Romanians and are not even indigenous to Albania, who were always a small minority in Greece. There were maybe a couple thousand for instance in Athens at most in the early 1800s.
Southern Albania still has Greeks as it is really northern Epirus. Albanians are likely from the Carpathian Mountains, since they also have many similarities to the substrate of Romanian. We can’t say for sure because no Albanians ever left even one literal sentence for archeologists-yet they want us to believe they were the original neighbors of the most literate Greeks and Romans, who even wrote about China and Ethiopia but never a so-called Albania. Where were they? No saints, kings, poets-not even peasants are mentioned by any Byzantines. And no, the latter never considered Albanians Romans or “Byzantines”. In fact the Romans only used the word Roman for Greeks. Even Bulgarians when rules for centuries were never called Byzantines ie Romans. Not even Armenians or Coptics were called Romaioi. But many slavs (the “Macedonians”) and Albanians etc not only wish they were ancient Greeks but they want to be medieval Greeks too. Be proud of your ancestors were all part of the human story.
Textbooks in FYROM (i.e. “North Macedonia”) written by Albanian authors during the Soviet era (“North Macedonia”; “Macedonians” only make up 65% of FYROM; 25% is Albanian) never claimed Illyrian origins. They never taught Albanians were Illyrians but did go over Illyrian history.
In “Albanian identities: myth and history”, USA: Indiana University Press, p. 43, written essays by an assortment of western academics, they say of Kastrioti (Greek name):
“…an episode taken from medieval history was central for Albanian national mythology. In the absence of medieval kingdom or empire the Albanian nationalists chose Skanderbeg....”
They go in to explain,
“The need to combine communist and nationalist ideologies made necessary the elaboration and enlargement of the nationalist myths sometimes even their modification-through a technique of synchronized combination with communist myths. In analyzing this technique it is important to keep in mind that nationalist-communist ideology was represented in two forms: in its religious form claiming that the doctrine of Marx was ‘just, harmonious and complete’(Lenin); and in its theoretical form claiming that belief in this ideology was based on scientific knowledge, not on the unknown and the transcendental. In fact the ideology was neither a religion nor a theory, but a mutation of both. Acting as a belief, while asserting at the same time to be scholarly knowledge the national-communist ideology froze many truths (among them historical ones). There was thus a mutation of mythology into science and of science into mythology. For instance, the ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars during the 1950s, but when Enver Hoxha declared that their origin was Illyrian (without denying their Pelasgian roots) no one dared participate in further discussion of the question. During the communist era, literary and artistic activity as well as academic studies (especially historical and linguistic studies) all adhered to this pattern. By this means a virtual world was created in which Albanians lived within the propaganda framework ofthe party and of the literary, artistic and academic works which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theatres and exhibitions.
Sober-minded Albanians reject the Illyrian propaganda pushed by Hoxha too (Some Slavs including Croat/Serbs said they were Illyrians in the 19th cent too):
Albanian names bear witness to the historic drive to prove the Illyrian link.
Not Pandeli Pani. When he was born in Tirana in 1966, midway through the long dictatorship of Enver Hoxha, his father told the local registry office that he wished to name him after his grandfather.
Pani recalls his father’s hard-fought battle not to have to give his son an Illyrian name.
Staff at the civil registry office apparently said that naming the future linguistics professor after his grandfather was not a good idea, as he was dead. They suggested an approved Illyrian name instead.
“But the Illyrians aren’t alive either,” Pani recalls his father as quipping.
Many members of Pani’s generation born in the Sixties did not have such stubborn fathers. Their parents subscribed to the government policy of naming children after names drawn from ancient tombs.
In the eyes of the world, they aimed to cement the linkage between modern Albania and its supposedly ancient past.
“While I was named after my grandfather, keeping up a family tradition, other parents gave their children Illyrian names that I doubt they knew the meaning of,” says Pani, who today teaches at Jena university in Germany.
“But I doubt many parents today would want to name their children ‘Bledar’ or ‘Agron,’ when the first means ‘dead’ and the second ‘Arcadian,” he adds.
Pani says that despite the Hoxha regime’s efforts to burn the doctrine of the Albanians’ Illyrian origins into the nation’s consciousness, the theory has become increasingly anachronistic.
“The political pressure in which Albania’s scientific community worked after the Communists took over, made it difficult to deal with flaws with the doctrine of the Illyrian origin,” he said.
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
Austrian Scholars Leave Albania Lost for Words
Viennese researchers upset traditionally minded Albanians by pouring cold water on the theory that the Albanian language has its roots in Ancient Illyria.
balkaninsight.com/2011/03/25/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAlbanian%20is%20not%20as%20the,language's%20broad%20shape%20resembles%20Greek.Albanians likely came from the Carpathian Mountains near Romania. It’s why the two languages (Romanian and Albanian) share unique words only between themselves. The link is undeniable. Both share substrucutres in language unique to the two. There are native words in Albanian for certain trees in the carpathian region etc. No Albanian native coastal words but plenty of mountain words, meaning they weren’t a sea people while the Illyrians were infamous pirates and sailors. Likely the Albanians migrated during during the first millennium CE.
Here is one of the best answers on Quora:
George Demo's answer to Are the Albanians the descendants of the ancient Illyrians?
www.quora.com/Are-the-Albanians-the-descendants-of-the-ancient-Illyrians/answer/George-Demo?ch=17&oid=294623803&share=2938355a&srid=uKx2E&target_type=answerGenetically there are strong affiliations as well between the carpathians and Albania. To quote the author of the above Quora article regarding genetic evidence:
To clarify, their logic goes something along the lines of: J2b-L283 was found in southern Croatia which was inhabited by Illyrians, who are the descendants of the Albanians and there are Albanians who carry this subclade, therefore it’s proven that Albanians are Illyrians. Idiotic, I know. Below is an approximate map of where European subclades of E-V13 are present (which is the most common haplogroup amongst Albanians). You won’t come across any Albanian nationalist claim “Look, E-V13 is mostly concentrated in Albania and in the Carpathian Mountains. It’s proven that we descend from the Carpathians”, like they do with J2b-L283.
The diversity of haplogroups among modern Albanians reflect their complex ethnogenesis (Peričić et al. 2005; Battaglia et al. 2008): An origin of the Albanoid homeland close to the north-west Pontic region during the Iron Age, before their expansion and subsequent Y-DNA bottlenecks, is supported by the prevalent E1b1b1a1b1-L618 lineages (ca. 24-44%)-mainly V13+ (formed ca. 6100 BC, TMRCA ca. 2800 BC)-a haplogroup found previously in Neolithic Hungary and among Scythians
Most of the Illyrians lived from Montenegro all the way to northern Italy. Southern Albania was Greek and even in 1914 Albania was supposed to recognize their autonomy. John Wilkes the foremost modern authority on Illyrians says they should not be equated to the relatively shorter and swarthy Albanians. Illyrians were tall with light features and many speculate they may have been part Celt. They had similarities to celts also and lived as neighbors with them for centuries. Even Kastrioti is a Greek name and declares himself Greek epirote. His father and brother were Konstantinos and Giorgos. Why didn’t they use Albanian names? If Albanians had always been there we would have heard about them since they are between Greece and Italy the two centers of literacy in ancient Europe. Nor do other Europeans mention Albanians until the last millennium, maybe around tue 11-12th centuries. The via ignacia passes right through Albania but never do we hear of any Albanians from Roman’s or Greeks until medieval times. Yet the Romans/Byzantines knew about China, Ethiopia, and India but not a nation right in the backyard-actually in the middle of their years? The Carpathian hypothesis makes most sense under the circumstances and there is genetic-cultural connections to the area particularly with Romania, the Carpathian heartland. There are native Albanian words for trees found in the carpathians not not native to Albania, and Albanian vegetation often used borrowed words for things like specific oak trees etc. As
Greeks are related to Romanians and are not native in Greece. There was no such thing as ancient "Greek". The Greeks are a false creation of British imperialists so there are no such thing as Greek since Greeks didn't exist in antiquity. Albania is an autochthonous people that has been fighting for its freedom and independence for centuries against enemies and oppressors of all kinds: the Albanians: Through all the struggles and all the historical upheavals, this people has retained its originality; Neither the migration of peoples nor the battles with Greeks, Serbs, Turks and other conquerors and oppressors were able to prevent the Albanians from maintaining their uniqueness pure and unadulterated in race and language, in customs and manners.
Historian - Hanslörg Frommer
Today only the Albanians, with their independent language, see themselves as descendants of the Illyrians.
Historian -Theodor Mommsen
was a German historian and is considered one of the most important antiquarians of the 19th century. The only Nobel Prize winner for literature. The brave ones from Epirus are the Albanians from antiquity, loyal, courageous traditional people whose flag has always been their eagle.
Karl Kaser - historian
Sees today's Albanians as the descendants of the remaining non-romanized Illyrian population. To support his view, he cites results from Albanian archeology and linguistics
Johann Georg von Hahn
Josef ritter von xylander historian
These two represent the thesis of the autochthonous nature of today's Albanians, which is linked to the Pelasgians
The Albanians have a language completely different from that of the Latins, Greeks and Slavs, so they cannot communicate in any way with other peoples". Whereas Greek is a fake language mixed with Albanian, Turkish, Slavic and Latin words. That's why it's placed on a separate branch because it is a Bastardized language.
Historian - Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer
There is a people on the Illyrian Peninsula whose language, in its structure and core, bears not the slightest resemblance to either Greek, Turkish or the Slavic dialects spoken today in most of south east europe.
The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes.
To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin.
Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries.
Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek.
Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts.
In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
Concrete proof of the Illyrian-Pelasgian origin of Albanians is provided by the study of the Albanian language. Despite some points of similarity in structure and phonetics, the Albanian language is entirely distinct from the languages, spoken by neighboring natonalities. This language is particularly interesting as the only surviving representative of the Pelasgian group of languages, which formed the primitive discourse of the inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula. While other words like Greek or Latin, which is younger than the Albanian language, yet there is some indication that the early Illyrian language manifested some degree of influence on the grammatical development of the languages. Now spoken in the Balkan Peninsula. There is, however, one very striking peculiarity in this entire question: that the Albanian language allows a reasonable explanation of the meaning of the names of so called ancient "Greek" Gods as well as the rest of the mythological creations. The explanations are so convincing to confirm the fact that so called ancient "Greek" mythology had been borrowed, in its entirety, from the Illyrian-Pelasgians. As it was mentioned before, Zeus survives as "Zot" in the Albanian language. The invocation of his name is the common form of oath among modern Albanians. Athena (Latin Minerva), the goddess of wisdom as expressed in speech, should obviously derive its derivation from the Albanian "E Thëna," which means "simply speech". Thetis, the goddess of waters and seas, would seem to be only Albanian "Det" which means "the sea". It would be interesting to note that the word "Ulysses", if in its Latin or Greek form "Odysseus", means "the traveler" in the Albanian language, according to like the word "udhë", that stands for "the route "and" the journey ", is written with" d "or" l ", both forms being in use in Albania. Such examples can be provided ad libitum (libitum). No such facility is, however, permitted by the Greek language, unless the explanation is an obligatory and distorted one; but in many cases even a mandatory and distorted so is not available at all.
Moreover, we must not forget the fact that Zeus was God Pelasgian par excellence, his original religious building being Dodona.
Why Ptolemy mentions Albania in 150 AD in south Epirus? 😂
@@southepirote7676 Ptolemy never mentions Albania or Albanians-no one does until the late middle ages in Europe. Why? Where were they? Between Greece and Italy the most literate parts of Europe surely they would mention Albanians. Because they never existed natively to modern Albania which was Epirus for most of its history ie Greece. “Macedonian is Doric Greek. So was Epirus. The birth-place of the Macedonians was Orestis, where, according to ancient tradition, their royal dynasty originated. The dynasty had two names: Argeades and Timenides. Due to the fact that Timenes was also the name of the leader of the Dorians of Argos, the tradition evolved that the origins of the Macedonian Kings was Peloponnesian Argos.
Archaeological evidence suggests this.
We must remember that Alexander and Philip were Greeks, descended from Heracles; they wished to be recognized as benefactors of the Greeks even as Heracles had been...Since childhood he [Alexander] had worshipped Heracles, son of Zeus, and a mortal woman through his mother he was descended from Achilles, son of goddess Thetis and a mortal Peleus."
-Nicholas G. Hammond, The Genius of Alexander the Great, p.257
“Macedon is a Greek speaking kingdom in Northern Greece, populated by people using Greek names, Greek months of the year, worshipping Greek gods. Those who live in Skopje and say that they are Macedonia and Alexander's home are as ignorant and outrageous as if someone were to say that Oxford was in Belarus and that Oxford is Minsk."
-Dr. Robin Lane Fox
In the northwest, the peoples of Molossis, Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially “Greeks”. The main difference between Macedonia and the city states of the south was that it was ruled by a king and powerful nobility."
-Robert Morkot, Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece, p.70
Genetic studies have shown Greeks have the same genetics as the Mycenaeans. Albanians have no such connections to Illyrians:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals
In fact the most popular histories of classical Greece were called Hellenica meaning the history of Greece, such as that of Xenophon. Greeks clearly considered themselves one people, including Macedonians. To the Servo-bulgars in FYROM Ie “North Macedonia” it doesn’t matter as they are Bulgarian/Serbs and have nothing to do with ancient Macedonians either way. There is no such country as North Macedonia. They just took a well-known name instead of their traditional title Vardarskans. Bulgarians are awesome I don’t see the problem. It’s a victim of history and politics issue. Communists pushed the name to grab free NATO Greek land. The sober-minded in their own government admit their is no historical connection to Classical Greek Macedonia. The name Macedonia is literally a Greek word me meaning extended land or land of the tall. From the adjective μακεδος (makedos), tall or slender. Arrian’s history, the authority on Alexander, has countless references to Macedonians in a Greek context as Greeks.