Definitely, my bit brother is 10 years older than me and he just doesn’t give a shit about me. I’ve always wanted him to love me like Max loves Lea. This poor family they must be so broken 😞😞
@@alicesewnsew2413 This is the sort of sibling all of us wish we had, I think. My little sister is 13 years younger than me, literally born on my birthday & she's always been more like my daughter than our parents child. It's a long story best summarized as older parents getting a big surprise later in life when they were already about ready to start spoiling grandchildren. Our parents are gone now & she lives about five hours away with her fiance. I'm always worried about that girl. She has a terrible knack for self-sabotage, getting involved with the wrong sort & acts far too often before she thinks things through. Gotta love her though, she's my only sibling & last blood relation (besides my children) I have a meaningful relationship with.
@@msriver11 Thankfully she understands that I care about her & worry over her. At present she's trying to figure out some way to get us to relocate to a location closer to her geographically.
Finally a story were the family gets to actually put hands on the killer… and make threats back to the killer. I would not be able to contain myself..:.
My heart breaks for Max. Losing a sibling is living hell I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I lost my older brother Sean in a motorcycle crash back in 2011, just two weeks before his college graduation. It’s been almost 12 years since he died, and not a day goes by where I don’t miss him and think of him. And I love him endlessly. Your siblings are the ones you expect to grow old alongside. When you lose a sibling, you lose your past, present and future. Losing mine in a motorcycle crash was traumatic in it’s own right. But I honestly don’t think I would’ve been able to cope if he had been murdered.
Sending you and your family the strength you need on those hollow days without him. I bet he would be massively proud of the human you’ve became. You will be making him so proud just by continuing on after such a devastating heartbreak. Here’s to your continued health for the future xx
@Nadiya Business please explains how "no body, no parole" is an antiquated concept when it's being introduced across multiple countries? What I find ludicrous is that people like you feel these families don't deserve to have their loved one returned. Thankfully it's a law in the state I live.
I can't understand how he could take a plea based on the premises that he will reveal the location of the body and then, when he did not give the correct information they didn't give him a full sentence, instead. Maybe it's just because I don't know how criminal justice works in the US, but this is absolutely wrong in my opinion.
The verdict is heinous. He could be out in 25 years...and harm someone else. Its possible that he won't give up the body because he knows, with his education, that her body will reveal the real extent of his depravity. Thanks for your work.
@@sam-jf8uf It has nothing to do with him being white. Y’all are always trying to play the race card... By trying to say it is like this is so disrespectful to the family. Every state has a different law. Even down to the city and county the laws can be different. With no body it is extremely hard to charge somebody with life.
Max is the brother I can only dream about having. It's so kind of him to have his sister inside his circle of friends. RIP Lea. This is indeed tragic that humans like this exist.
Lea battled with separation anxiety, which many people dismiss as a non-issue but which can be an extremely debilitating form of anxiety - a mental illness. She needed help but instead found an asshole and enabler of a boyfriend. What a tragic story.
Agreed the nasty age gap relationship pissed me off, grown man introducing vulnerable teens to heroine 😒 Dude find a grown woman your age to do these vices with, why target and ruin a college student? He should be ashamed for that.
@@dreamivey3405 It really is tragic when old men lurk on teen girls and introduce them to hard drugs because they are trash. Also he didn’t look very emo to me. Grow up and gain some EQ.
Lee and Max were blessed to have each other as siblings. My heart breaks for Lee's entire family and for Lea's life being ended so unfairly and much too soon. RIP sweet angel
I don't know about that. She seemed too dependent on him. She would prefer to hang around his friends instead of having her own. I raised two kids four years apart. My youngest loved his brother so much he used to draw him all the time and he would draw him bigger than my husband or me. When the eldest became a teenager my youngest son started to feel jealous and that's when I intervened making him understand that although his brother loved him all the same he was going through some changes and he needed his space. I explained that he needed to find his own friends because he was gonna need then for when he himself bacame a teenager. I made sure though to remind my oldest son who his brother was and to spend quality time with him every week. They grew up to be a pair of good and healthy young men. You as a parent are obliged to look after them, to see the signs and to deal with their problems, to make them feel that they can open up to you, confide in you, understand the situation and look for healthy solutions. Problems just don't go away.
Considering what he was into, his diary, and such.. I'm willing to bet he did some horrible, monstrous stuff to her. He can't let them find her. He will do it again when released.
I truly am actively trying to not carry so much hate and anger in my heart but its so hard when you see what evil people do, the level of their cowardice in every instance. I hope every moment till his last breath is terrible and hopeless. If that was your daughter, dumped carelessly in a landfill, possibly never to be found,after being used and killed to satiate an ego. Absolutely devastating...
❤ Thank you for always starting your videos by expressing your sympathy to the family and friends of the victim. As a true crime connoisseur, I watch a lot of other channels and you're the only creator who does this. Class act. 😊
Co-dependent relationships are so dangerous. I’m surprised nobody in her family caught on to this. Lee did everything she could to be near her brother. She spiraled out of control when he left. It could have been prevented if they got Lee psychiatric help when she was younger. Parents- don’t be afraid of your children!! Give them what they need!!
That was exactly my thought as well. She had an unhealthy view of her relationship with her brother. It was only natural that she try to fill that hole that his leaving would have left.
@@shamirquinones8607 Totally agree. They were a bit too close. It's abnormal for any sibling to show that level of dedication. She was way too attached. She would have not functioned properly in society as she got older. Not at the rate she was going anyways.
It's quite rude of you to label this as a codependent relationship. Since it would imply that her brother would be directly encouraging her overly attached behavior. I'm not a therapist but this seems to be much more a likely case of DPD or dependent personality disorder focused primarily on the relationship with her brother.
@@NotBlackWolf idk about that. It doesnt sound like she had DPD, that's a bit extreme. By all accounts according to the video, she could function quite well on her own, just as long as her brother was within range.
@@Vojou345 I mean we definitely don't have enough information from this video to say she has dpd but it's still better than saying her and her brother have a codependent relationship.
wow... that shows the amount of love Max had for his sister Lea. Props to him for doing that and restraining himself for killing the bastard right then and there. The Fear Files with another great story and I like this narrator he has a Dateline-ish vibe to him.
Max is a good big brother and people saying that their relationship was weird or whatever, think bout what lengths your family would go for you. Evidently not that far. Rip Lea.
Dude their relationship way its described is off, yeah brother stepped up but most siblings would step up without having a weird relationship as per described
@@craigcassidy6078 What because she had separation anxiety and a small circle? I admit their relationship was maybe on the extreme side but I don't think it's as *weird* as people are making it out. Like implying that Max molested Lea or vice versa. That's the true weird thing imo.
As someone who does not have a close relationship with my brother and never did I still do not think the way they describe their relationship is off at all - I think that being close with your family and feeling like your sibling is your friend is a positive thing and only a reflection of a healthy family dynamic. It just seems like her and her brother we're good friends and got along well and trusted each other I think that's a beautiful thing that I wish I had with my brother. I feel like because of the overwhelming amount of people with unhealthy family dynamics people really have a hard time conceptualizing the reality of actually enjoying someone who is a family member that much and not having to be weird or incestual. Also if you can imagine someone who possibly struggles with mental health issues - who has always been close to their sibling... I would assume her brother has been a big support system for her, someone who she could always turn to someone who always had her back, someone who she always knew if things got rough she could turn to or would be there to help her out. I imagine him moving away could definitely have a negative effect on her emotionally and possibly make her vulnerable looking to other people for support who are not healthy for her. If anything I have an overwhelming amount of respect for her brother and a whole lot of admiration for the relationship they had. My own brother put my life at risk before putting his hands on me and making me fear for my life, I think it sounds absolutely beautiful to have someone who is your blood sibling care about you so much.
One thing is being close to your siblings, it is something entirely different for someone’s life to completely spiral out of control because their sibling was moving on in their lives which is a totally normal thing. She has unhealthily codependent on her brother and someone should have stepped up and helped her.
The collapse of her ENTIRE life after her brother was no longer around seems to imply that she was headed towards an inevitable crisis, it is unfortunate that the worst outcome came to be, but I am curious as to why no one in this girls life picked up on the signs that she was DEPENDENT on the male figures in her life. Not her fault in anyway, it is just such an intensely short period of time to go from a year from graduating college to homeless and addicted to heroin when the only change was her brother was no longer around.
We are in opioid crisis in 2019 75% of deaths in the US were from overdoses. The crisis will continues and continues to get worse. It’s mind blowing and crazy how uneducated majority of people are on opioid addiction when it effects so many people and children. this WILL effect your childern and childern of the future. Parents when you tell your kids not to drugs and You don’t know why they don’t either. Learn about how most people become addicted and what opioid withdrawals are and what is the best way for people to get sober (methadone) it is the best way to get sober but barley anyone knows about it. Instead addicts are pointed to ways to recover that have almost 0% success rate. Methadone guarantees success and there needs to be more awareness parents get educated it’ll save lives
@@kjgrjugcnr4513 Methadone as well as Suboxone/Buprenorphine. Sorry, just wanted to add that in but I absolutely agree. And also just to add, a lot of those suffering from opioid addiction are shunned and discouraged from medications like Methadone or Suboxone because of this deceptive statement of "it's just trading one addiction for another." First, people need to learn the difference between physical dependence and substance abuse addiction. They are 2 very different things. You can be physically dependent upon a medication without abusing it and without obtaining a euphoria/high from it. If you're using either of these medications correctly, you will not be high on it. Instead, many of those suffering from opioid addiction are wrongly steered towards things like NA or AA, which, if you look up success rates, are possibly as low as 2% or more. There are good aspects of this program, but it's not a substitute for true medical treatment, please remember this, folks. Methadone and Suboxone both save lives. Look up latest scientific research on addiction, specifically opioid addiction before making recommendations and passing judgments on your loved ones, who's last day could be today, given the state of the opioid crisis as it is today (Fentanyl, other very strong and highly dangerous and cheap narcotics being put into the "heroin" today that are killing people.) Sorry, don't mean to be rude, just wanted to piggy back onto your comment because opioid addiction really is killing our loved ones and we all should be doing so much more about it instead of shaming people. This is such a shame for us as a society.
i was curious if anyone had picked up on that. i have 6 siblings all of who i love very much, and maybe its bc my family wasnt as close as theirs growing up, but it seemed odd how codependent she was to the point where she was following her brother to college and not quite developing a life outside of him.
I know I’m late to comment but I’ve heard this story on several podcast. The entire audio. The “friend” he brought with him was her ex. The one she just broke up with. Him and Max got together and decided to go meet up with her murderer. The cops were on stand-by. I love this UA-cam channel. I’m new to it. Just thought I would chip in a little on what I’ve previously heard. The recording actually has the ex and Max interrogating him at the park.
Let's take a moment to appreciate and thank this creator for paying respect to the victims they cover. A very uncommon thing among True Crime channels that shouldn't be
Yes. Most reputable true crime channels respect the victims. Some even put the name of the victim in the video instead of the killers name to bring attention to them instead of glorifying the killer.
Absolutely heartbreaking. This young lady had so much to give the world, so much life to live. This one is going to stick with me. Why would they hold up his end of the plea bargain when he never led them to her body?? Disgusting. Her family will never have proper closure until they find her. I pray that one day they do :( We all need a brother like Max for sure, though.
I cannot even explain how close this hits to home for me. Heroin is so serious. Many loved ones have passed. I recovered from it. And I moved 3000 miles away from anyone I know with it. I dont know how. With the grace of GOD its almost 10 years clean. Not without help from doctors still today though. The withdrawal is a feeling and a severe pain indescribable that you dont understand unless you go through it. And it will take hold of the best of the best of people anyone...it doesnt matter who you are. It is not like marijuana alcohol or cocaine . you just cant try it. Youre physically hooked right away with a deep deep physical pain. I am so sorry for this beautiful family.
8 months clean is a lot of work. I used to think the the 1st 3 days were hard then I noticed 7 days was worse ...then it got harder and harder. .. It doeant get easier...in time it does ...i think I hope. Everyday just makes you stronger. When you have those dreams or wierd feelings...give yourself a 5 second task of distraction. I have children...so its easy to erase my brain of bad thoughts. But many prayers for you and good job. Always be proud . it is very hard.
@@heatherkrug8401 you have a good attitude and that’s the most important part. You’re determined that no matter how hard it gets, you won’t relapse and go back to using because you now know that’s not a solution to your problems. 8 days, 8 months, 8 years... we all have to be diligent and serious about our sobriety. Congrats to all of you and keep your head up! I’m 5 years clean myself and feel better than I ever have.
As someone who doesn’t even have kids, it’s hard to just see the pictures, hear the stories and then imagine that someone lost their child. Heart-breaking.
I have a son who is my world and I have to actively not think about ever losing him (I watch too much true crime) I don’t know how any of these parents go on bc I don’t think I could. They’re so strong
When you lose your spouse your a widow, when you lose your parents your an orphan, losing your child is an indescribable loss there are no words for it.
It is so sad that this happened to this young woman. I pray that she is found and the family can find some sense of closure to all of this. As far as her killer is concerned, death is far too merciful a fate for a monster like that. I could think of other ways for him to be punished.
Such a sad story. Her brother is an amazing person, I feel so awful for him, finding out she had become addicted to heroin would have been devastating and then to lose her in such an awful way is just unthinkable.
That guy has no remorse. If he did he would tell the police where she's at. Nobody should have to be murdered and not get a proper burial. Cats and Dogs are treated better. So sorry to the mom and dad. I feel pain for them.
I am so sorry for this family. We had a neighbor kidnapped and killed. The family suffered until Patrica body was found. It was so so sad 10 years watching for their 16 year old girl
As a skydiver I jumped over 750 times, and over 150 BASE jumps, I was the victim of an attempted car jacking, and was deployed to Afghanistan 6 times...the only thing I truly fear is the feeling of not knowing what happened to my child.
Lea was a bright, smart, beautiful woman. Thank you for covering this case. As a friend of Lea, the more eyes on the story, the more chances to find her remains. So it means a lot.
How could he be given a plea deal when he didn’t fulfill his part of the agreement, producing her body? District attorneys are quick to jump at plea deals because it mean MUCH less work for them and they still get to put a conviction on their resume.
A good DA runs it by the family. I don't know if they did in this case but trials are long and drawn out and some families don't want to go through that.
What a very sad story, this girl growing up too dependent on her brother, not having learned yet to stand on her own feet. I wish she would have got the chance to correct herself and find balance in her life. R.I.P.!
Im Suprised the brother didint end that man when he had the chance. That takes strength i know i couldint do the same . Rest her soul and may she be at peace eternally. May her family remember the the joy she brought to them and let her light shine on them everyday in their hearts.
I can’t stand when they give those low life a plea bargain and even if they don’t keep there end of the plea they still get less sentence , he should have a life sentence with no parole since her body wasn’t found
It's time to bring back "drawing and quartering" as a punishment. It's not cruel and unusual punishment to take a murderer's life this way because they'd be aware that this would be the punishment for killing an innocent person BEFORE they committed the barbaric, cruel act. And knowing that this was the result, they'd have the opportunity to reconsider having their life taken in such a barbaric way. Murdering an innocent is what should be considered cruel and unusual punishment. The killer made a CHOICE that resulted in their punishment. Period. The victim had no choice and lost everything. And the fear and regret in their last moments would likely be the most profoundly horrifying feeling that somebody could ever feel. To have no control or any say in one's life ending and to never see one's loved one's again...it does not get more tragic. I dare say that would be more brutal than the impending act of violence committed against them. The demolishing of their emotional being seconds before the end of their physical being is too terrible to consider, in my opinion. And so, to tear the killer's body, limb from limb, literally is not cruel, nor unusual. If we made that the rule of thumb, I suspect in a short span of time, the murder rate would subside greatly. Televise it. I know that I would only have to witness this form of death sentence one time to be completely free of any possible consideration that I'd commit murder against anybody.
And who would do this awful thing? The reason they automated the lethal injection was because the chair left those who had to throw the switch with PTSD. The only ones who would willingly butcher someone would be serial killers and lunatics. Besides which, there's no evidence that capital punishment acts as a deterrent but plenty of evidence it doesn't, the huge number of inmates on death row being the most obvious.
Why did they let him go the first time? They could hold him on child pornography charge. Police could easily get this out of him but Max had to do their work. Wow! Max is a friend and brother we all need.
You don’t know how things work , there is a body to be found , holding him on child pornography charges would divert the whole attention on the main case and make him even resilient and belligerent to confess any further on things
@@tristan583 been following true crime, trials, interrogations anr all most of my life; long before it became popular on UA-cam. I think I know enough.
Absolutely horrible what she must have went through. My suggestion to the authorities/correction officers is to have him bunk with big bubba or big Leroy and just let them abuse him and I guarantee he'll give up the location to Lea's remains. Then let him stay in there with them for about a year just to get a little more satisfaction out of it. I can't say what I'd actually want to happen to him because I'd get a lifetime ban from UA-cam....
TubbyTubb I already received my original account deactivated, because of how, if I was elected POTUS, buy 2 separate islands, one for men and the other for women, then gather up the deplorables in prison, sedate them, then drop them off on these islands to let them fight it out. Oops! I guess that I'm going to have to think of another account. 🤣🤣🤣
What a breath of fresh air your analyses are. Thank you- for humanising Lea, Max and all of Lea’s family, and all the people victimised who are featured in your analyses. It brings me to tears to find a channel which actually centres and, more importantly, affirms the human beings who were victims of crime. Your storytelling firmly keeps Lea, and all others featured, as the main characters of their own lives. Their names aren’t forgotten, or overshadowed by glorification of their executioners, like on most other channels. Thank you, and rest in paradise Lea. To Max and family; may Lea’s love keep you warm for the rest of your days.
I knew Lea personally going to college in Pueblo this is a super sad story and her family deserves clarity.. thoughts and prayers extended there way to this day! 🙏🏽
I saw the video of him recording Waide at the park saying all this. It’s crazy how smart and strategic he was!! It’s like he was his own detective! His sister was definitely looking down on him at the time saying “yeah, that’s my brother!” 😢
I've watched videos about many similar cases, but this one made me especially sad... Seeing how she grew up with so much potential and talent. But then at some point her life went completely downhill, after her "boyfriend" introduced her to heroin. I hate people like this guy so much. They seek out those who are already vulnerable and make them hurt even more. How could you give hard drugs to a person you love? People like this probably aren't able to love anybody full heartedly. Just like Lea's killer, this "boyfriend" is responsible for destroying her life. I hope, her body will be discovered soon and her family may find peace. greetings from germany ❤️
Oh man… I can’t take the overwhelming emotion of just thinking about how her brother felt hearing those words coming out of his sister’s killer mouth. . I have 4 brothers and this hit me hard. I would have a hella of time losing them. Damnit.
Mad props to Max!!! I wish u had a brother like you. That was really clever and smooth the way u worked that weirdo into confessing. I can guarantee your sister is still moved by what u did for her. I know I would be. God bless you and ur family.
I don’t see how they can follow through with the plea deal if her remains have not been returned to the family. I would have voided that deal until she was found.
It seems like Lea had some other issues that her family is well aware of but don't want to discuss. It's not uncommon for siblings to have the same major especially in situations where it may be a career most of their family embarked on or just similar interests but hers doesn't seem to come from that. It seems like an unhealthy obsession or dependency. Her brother finding a job in a different state shouldn't have led to such a level of devastation and depression. Its deeper than what has been revealed.
I love my siblings like this. I hate not living close to them. You never know maybe they were just that close. It doesn’t have to be deeper or something the family won’t discuss it could just be that they were that tight. Like I said I’m like that with my sister and brother. I’m the oldest and I took them under my wing just like max did to Lea. Anyway just sharing my experience and perspective.
@@marieeiram7061 I get it because of one of three and when my youngest sister moved to a different state, I tried to talk her back home but it didn't turn into depression. I also thought it was weird that she wanted to go anywhere but home.
@@yolandawilson6619 yeah you’re right we’ll never know I guess. It’s so sad. I hope you get to visit your sister often. I’m glad you were able to maintain and not get depressed. Sending you good vibes and a hug 🤗
I’m glad Max got some punches in to the monster, these plea deals they all get piss me off , when he gets out he’ll probably do the same. I feel so sad for her family!
When someone tells you they're addicted to heroin, fentanyl, or any other serious drugs or alcohol... PLEASE don't start lecturing them about how bad & dangerous, said drug is! They know it! It doesn't help.. in fact (from personal experience), it does the exact opposite of what you intend.
Best thing you can do is talk them into a Methadone/Suboxone clinic. Addicts don't use to get high, they use to not be sick. Suboxone saved my life! Congrats, my friend, you beat the beast.
I love this channel, because unlike others covering the case, the comments arent full of unsubstantiated, callous, hurtful remarks about a certain aspect of those involved. Good people.
This is heartbreaking. I too had gone through heroin addiction around the same age as her. I really wish she could of not had people hurt her. She seemed like a good hearted person who just had to overcome the addiction. It's really such a difficult situation because the withdrawals are so unbelievably difficult and it just makes even the strongest willed people have the hardest time and I really hope we can find a way to get better support for these people who are good people but got stuck in the physical addiction that heroin causes. I really relate to this one because I grew up never being a trouble maker and it just was a shock that it came about and even when I was using I wasn't a trouble maker, I was just stuck in the physical parts of it but I didn't want to be a bad person. I just had to stop using and I finally overcame it but it was one of the most difficult things that I have ever gone through and it went on for months before I even remotely started feeling semi okay and not just dying. But now I'm 8yrs clean and I wish this guy didn't hurt this girl because she could of gotten through it too. She had a loving family and that's very important. It helps so much. Sending love out there with this one. ❤️
God bless I am truly proud of you. You are a real life hero; you fought a monster and won. You should try being a recovery coach. I promise sweetheart you are needed
@@leahflower9924 it's easy to frame it in that manner. Trust me I was such a goody goody and told myself I would never do drugs especially hard drugs. But at 20yrs old I was drinking occasionally and randomly I had a girl talk me into trying ecstasy. I had never experienced anything of that nature before. It was in a way profound because it felt like it helped me over come some mental trauma's BUT later on I came home to my apartment and my roommate was experimenting with heroin and I initially was so pissed. But idk how, since I was drunk and on ecstacy I somehow let my boundaries down and agreed to "just try it" it was the dumbest thing I ever did because I underestimated how much I would have a hard time controlling myself about it because It made me feel good, I stayed active, I mixed it into my life and I totally underestimated how horrid the physical withdrawals were. I convinced myself that if I can control how mentally I get hooked then I can just stop when I want. It's the total opposite. You can be completely not mentally addicted but it doesn't matter at all. Your body is so physically reliant on it that you feel like you're dying and having your muscles ripped off your bones and you don't realize that is how it's going to be until it's too late. Seriously, you can try all you want to describe it but it really is a thing that just happens and you learn the hard way, in the hardest way possible and most people don't come out of that honestly and it's really sad. I hope they can find a way to help people with this problem get clean in a new way because 100% it's the part you can't control that effects everyone from success. It's the how sick and debilitated you get. For months. It took me like 3 months of being so sick, before I could even attempt to walk around the block, and when I tried I made it only part way before just dying, sitting down and just feeling so weak, winded, my blood pressure was dropping then going up, heart rate up and down.. sweats, hot cold, muscle aches... And this was months into quitting. It literally took the most internal mental will power. Yes it was physical but it took so much mental energy to overcome that. I literally felt like I died and was coming back to get a 2nd chance at life and it definitely made me so much more grateful for everything I once overlooked. Not anymore. I appreciate freaking everything nowadays. It's worth pushing through because if you can have a moment in your life you go through experimenting or something, and then can come out the other side, you really can make the best of life without all that, it can just be a chapter of your life's experience. It doesn't need to be a part of you forever. It can just be a thing that evolved you because you sometimes have to learn the hard way. At least some people are like that. Just trying to make the best out of bad situation because there's no point in not because then you can convert that energy into bettering your life now. Now 8 yrs sober. I'm pretty content. I don't even have to think about it anymore, im totally content with my self control and will power and I've gained a ton of trust in myself. The answers are and were within you the whole time anyways, you just have to learn to look at things the right way. Best of love to everyone ❤️
Absolutely believe that dad would himself kill Waide if Justice wasn't served . Honestly the dad is a damn good man which is also why his son is a good man . Such a sad story truly . Her addiction def clouded her thought process and she was around true evil . I wish the family much care in their grief process and good things in life forward .
Interesting but sad story. I wonder how he planned on leading police to her body if he dumped her in a Dumpster and she would have ended up in a landfill that he had no specific knowledge of. Also, he should have gotten life. I didn't hear any changes in his charges even though he couldn't lead them to her body.
He didnt plan on any of that. Once the deal for 2nd degree murder was signed he was good. He probably knew all along what he was doing, trying to play the police.
I remember watching the interview with her brother (at the park were they had met under the guise of tarot reading). I don't think Chris's 'recollections' of what transpired that night are all lies. He clearly took advantage of the fact that she was an addict, knowing she'd most likely do whatever for some cash. Yet, never had any intention of giving her any. Add his unhealthy obsessions to the mix and you have a murder. She might've unintentionally, helped put away a future sk,rpist, and/or Cp distributor for good.Sad case.
As a former herion addict this story watered me up…I knew before u stated she was on drugs…she was on drugs based on the depression she no doubtedly suffered from the life change and being away from someone she stayed so very close to..extremely sad story and one that definitely hit close to home
I ALSO AM A RECOVERING HEROIN ADDICT, THE DIFFERENCE BTWN MALE ADDICTS AND FEMALES IS HOW VULNERABLE GIRLS ARE WHILST IN THE GRIPS OF THE WHITE DEMON AKA HEROIN. IT IS A SEDUCTIVE, CRUEL DRUG THAT TAKES EVERYTHING FROM YOU. SOMETIMES IT CAN BE YOUR LIFE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IT TOOK ME 20 YEARS TO FINALLY BEAT THIS EVIL DRUG. SO HITTING CLOSE TO HOME I TOTALLY KNOW WHERE UR COMING FROM. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK REMAINING CLEAN MY RECOVERING BROTHER. RIP TO LEA AND TO HELL WITH HER KILLER. PEACE. OUT.
My heart, thoughts and prayers go out to Lea's family and friends! Max is definitely her hero and angel! It's sickening that this piece of 💩 will not be honest enough to help her family locate where she is, so I hope that he receives "prison justice" every single day and night!
I don't uderstand the 'plea deal'. If he didn't disclose where the remains of Lea are, what's the 'deal'? He already confessed to killing her. So, am I missing something?
I got more than half way thru this doc before I realized I had heard this case before. I really appreciate your team because this shines a much better light on Lea. RIP Baby girl❤
Hey, I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your podcast, it is definitely my favourite and I recommend it to everyone. Please continue to tell these amazing stories on behalf of the victims., I’m a super fan for life💛💛💛
Good in Max!! That’s a fucking man and a hell of a big brother. What bothers me is how incompetent the police were in this. Far too often civilians do the police work but police get the credit
It honestly probably wasn’t the best idea to force him to confess while threatening violence. A confession made under durress like that would be worthless in any court and could’ve hurt the case. I understand why he did it though.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx it wasn't made under duress. Violence was used after it was admitted. Max could be charged with assault but the confession should still stick.
Max is the brother that everyone needs in life.. bless him
Definitely, my bit brother is 10 years older than me and he just doesn’t give a shit about me. I’ve always wanted him to love me like Max loves Lea. This poor family they must be so broken 😞😞
@@alicesewnsew2413 This is the sort of sibling all of us wish we had, I think. My little sister is 13 years younger than me, literally born on my birthday & she's always been more like my daughter than our parents child.
It's a long story best summarized as older parents getting a big surprise later in life when they were already about ready to start spoiling grandchildren. Our parents are gone now & she lives about five hours away with her fiance. I'm always worried about that girl.
She has a terrible knack for self-sabotage, getting involved with the wrong sort & acts far too often before she thinks things through. Gotta love her though, she's my only sibling & last blood relation (besides my children) I have a meaningful relationship with.
@@athelwulfgalland I hope she finds her way to be more close to you and realize how much you care. I wish her all the best. ❤️
@@msriver11 Thankfully she understands that I care about her & worry over her. At present she's trying to figure out some way to get us to relocate to a location closer to her geographically.
@@athelwulfgalland that's good to know. All the best! ❤️
Finally a story were the family gets to actually put hands on the killer… and make threats back to the killer. I would not be able to contain myself..:.
His deal shouldn’t of been upheld because he didn’t give up her body. He lied and they still gave him some leniency. He deserve street justice.
I agree ! It absolutely makes no sense at all 🤬😤😡
No doubt...slow and painful. This guy is beneath contempt.
I hope he gets it.😡
I thought part of the plea was to tell them where her remains are….
Well he’ll have Chimo charges which the inmates will know, so it’s likely he will get it unless he’s kept in protective custody.
My heart breaks for Max. Losing a sibling is living hell I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I lost my older brother Sean in a motorcycle crash back in 2011, just two weeks before his college graduation. It’s been almost 12 years since he died, and not a day goes by where I don’t miss him and think of him. And I love him endlessly. Your siblings are the ones you expect to grow old alongside. When you lose a sibling, you lose your past, present and future. Losing mine in a motorcycle crash was traumatic in it’s own right. But I honestly don’t think I would’ve been able to cope if he had been murdered.
Heart breaking!
Condolences to you and yours. I pray he finds peace wherever he is.
Sending you and your family the strength you need on those hollow days without him. I bet he would be massively proud of the human you’ve became. You will be making him so proud just by continuing on after such a devastating heartbreak. Here’s to your continued health for the future xx
i'm so sorry. x
I lost my little brother in a motorcycle accident too, last year. 3 months before his first son was born. This definitely hit me in the gut.
It should be "no body, no parole". May Lea fly high with the anglels till her family can lay her to rest.
@Nadiya Business go on...
@Nadiya Business Probably reread it... She said No body, No parole.
Angels. Angles are ✂️
@Nadiya Business please explains how "no body, no parole" is an antiquated concept when it's being introduced across multiple countries? What I find ludicrous is that people like you feel these families don't deserve to have their loved one returned. Thankfully it's a law in the state I live.
@@carriejustice7433 cheers, my bad lol
I’m so incredibly sorry for Max and proud of him at the same time.
He knew how to clean a crime scene......but left the knife and bloodstains to be found. And he couldn't even clean his filthy apartment.
Too bad he doesn’t know how to clean his house
Can’t imagine what he had in there that the smell was that bad! Just nasty.
He couldn't even clean his apartment. He didn't clean anything. The knife and the bleach told their own stories.
@@TahtahmesDiary likely very bad mold
It's actually a good thing he didn't clean his place... they probably wouldn't have found the evidence they did if he had.
I can't understand how he could take a plea based on the premises that he will reveal the location of the body and then, when he did not give the correct information they didn't give him a full sentence, instead.
Maybe it's just because I don't know how criminal justice works in the US, but this is absolutely wrong in my opinion.
The verdict is heinous. He could be out in 25 years...and harm someone else. Its possible that he won't give up the body because he knows, with his education, that her body will reveal the real extent of his depravity. Thanks for your work.
I agree. Some people are clearly a threat to society. This guy is one of them. No way I’d want him anywhere near me or my family. Ugh.
Dont worry he is white
@@sam-jf8uf It has nothing to do with him being white. Y’all are always trying to play the race card... By trying to say it is like this is so disrespectful to the family. Every state has a different law. Even down to the city and county the laws can be different. With no body it is extremely hard to charge somebody with life.
@@sam-jf8uf whats that have to do whith anything
There are monsters white and black
He should never walk free
In fact, he should be put down
@@georginatoppings5912 thank you
Max is the brother I can only dream about having. It's so kind of him to have his sister inside his circle of friends. RIP Lea. This is indeed tragic that humans like this exist.
Lea battled with separation anxiety, which many people dismiss as a non-issue but which can be an extremely debilitating form of anxiety - a mental illness. She needed help but instead found an asshole and enabler of a boyfriend. What a tragic story.
Its not that tragic. I think it was gonna happen regardless
I'm sorry but if you date emo white guys who do hard drugs, what do you expect.
Agreed the nasty age gap relationship pissed me off, grown man introducing vulnerable teens to heroine 😒 Dude find a grown woman your age to do these vices with, why target and ruin a college student? He should be ashamed for that.
@@dreamivey3405 It really is tragic when old men lurk on teen girls and introduce them to hard drugs because they are trash. Also he didn’t look very emo to me. Grow up and gain some EQ.
Yeah the way she was really attached to her brother and then moved onto a boyfriend.
It’s sad.
Lee and Max were blessed to have each other as siblings. My heart breaks for Lee's entire family and for Lea's life being ended so unfairly and much too soon. RIP sweet angel
I don't know about that. She seemed too dependent on him. She would prefer to hang around his friends instead of having her own. I raised two kids four years apart. My youngest loved his brother so much he used to draw him all the time and he would draw him bigger than my husband or me. When the eldest became a teenager my youngest son started to feel jealous and that's when I intervened making him understand that although his brother loved him all the same he was going through some changes and he needed his space. I explained that he needed to find his own friends because he was gonna need then for when he himself bacame a teenager. I made sure though to remind my oldest son who his brother was and to spend quality time with him every week. They grew up to be a pair of good and healthy young men. You as a parent are obliged to look after them, to see the signs and to deal with their problems, to make them feel that they can open up to you, confide in you, understand the situation and look for healthy solutions. Problems just don't go away.
If you are going to lie to the family about where her body is, it seems extra cruel to say you chopped her up and threw her in the trash.
I think the same 😭😭😭😭...
I think the ole helping-out-with-the-search bit is particularly despicable.
Considering what he was into, his diary, and such.. I'm willing to bet he did some horrible, monstrous stuff to her. He can't let them find her. He will do it again when released.
Whenever a killer says,"she came onto me..." isn't it obvious that no one will believe that!? How delusional these 'men' are.
Translation is he came on to her, she rejected him so he killed her.
Yeah like...she ran into my knife. Those people are selfish and delusional 🙄 what a vile creature he is.
I truly am actively trying to not carry so much hate and anger in my heart but its so hard when you see what evil people do, the level of their cowardice in every instance. I hope every moment till his last breath is terrible and hopeless. If that was your daughter, dumped carelessly in a landfill, possibly never to be found,after being used and killed to satiate an ego. Absolutely devastating...
I think he was supposed to pay her for the sex they had and afterwards didn’t want to. RIP, you poor girl. Wish I could have been there to help you ❤️
That's kinda sad for men though. The fact that no one would believe that a woman is perfectly capable of behaving that way too.
❤ Thank you for always starting your videos by expressing your sympathy to the family and friends of the victim. As a true crime connoisseur, I watch a lot of other channels and you're the only creator who does this. Class act. 😊
Totally agree 👍 that is the best thing about this channel 👏
Honestly!
True
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I find it a bit fake, to be honest.
Co-dependent relationships are so dangerous. I’m surprised nobody in her family caught on to this. Lee did everything she could to be near her brother. She spiraled out of control when he left. It could have been prevented if they got Lee psychiatric help when she was younger. Parents- don’t be afraid of your children!! Give them what they need!!
That was exactly my thought as well. She had an unhealthy view of her relationship with her brother. It was only natural that she try to fill that hole that his leaving would have left.
@@shamirquinones8607 Totally agree. They were a bit too close. It's abnormal for any sibling to show that level of dedication. She was way too attached. She would have not functioned properly in society as she got older. Not at the rate she was going anyways.
It's quite rude of you to label this as a codependent relationship. Since it would imply that her brother would be directly encouraging her overly attached behavior.
I'm not a therapist but this seems to be much more a likely case of DPD or dependent personality disorder focused primarily on the relationship with her brother.
@@NotBlackWolf idk about that. It doesnt sound like she had DPD, that's a bit extreme. By all accounts according to the video, she could function quite well on her own, just as long as her brother was within range.
@@Vojou345 I mean we definitely don't have enough information from this video to say she has dpd but it's still better than saying her and her brother have a codependent relationship.
wow... that shows the amount of love Max had for his sister Lea. Props to him for doing that and restraining himself for killing the bastard right then and there.
The Fear Files with another great story and I like this narrator he has a Dateline-ish vibe to him.
Max is a good big brother and people saying that their relationship was weird or whatever, think bout what lengths your family would go for you. Evidently not that far. Rip Lea.
Dude their relationship way its described is off, yeah brother stepped up but most siblings would step up without having a weird relationship as per described
@@craigcassidy6078 What because she had separation anxiety and a small circle? I admit their relationship was maybe on the extreme side but I don't think it's as *weird* as people are making it out. Like implying that Max molested Lea or vice versa. That's the true weird thing imo.
As someone who does not have a close relationship with my brother and never did I still do not think the way they describe their relationship is off at all - I think that being close with your family and feeling like your sibling is your friend is a positive thing and only a reflection of a healthy family dynamic. It just seems like her and her brother we're good friends and got along well and trusted each other I think that's a beautiful thing that I wish I had with my brother. I feel like because of the overwhelming amount of people with unhealthy family dynamics people really have a hard time conceptualizing the reality of actually enjoying someone who is a family member that much and not having to be weird or incestual. Also if you can imagine someone who possibly struggles with mental health issues - who has always been close to their sibling... I would assume her brother has been a big support system for her, someone who she could always turn to someone who always had her back, someone who she always knew if things got rough she could turn to or would be there to help her out. I imagine him moving away could definitely have a negative effect on her emotionally and possibly make her vulnerable looking to other people for support who are not healthy for her. If anything I have an overwhelming amount of respect for her brother and a whole lot of admiration for the relationship they had. My own brother put my life at risk before putting his hands on me and making me fear for my life, I think it sounds absolutely beautiful to have someone who is your blood sibling care about you so much.
@@autumnblossom00 Thank you. This ☝️
I couldn't really articulate what I meant, but you absolutely nailed it. People project so much, it's telling.
One thing is being close to your siblings, it is something entirely different for someone’s life to completely spiral out of control because their sibling was moving on in their lives which is a totally normal thing. She has unhealthily codependent on her brother and someone should have stepped up and helped her.
I appreciate your kind words to the family and friends of the deceased at the beginning of your vid’s. No one does that . Very nice to see .
I agree. I was going to say the same. Ill like your comment instead. I already left too long of a comment. it is very nice that they do that.
I agree. I think that's a lovely gesture too
Truth4Reality channel is excellent in this manner too.
agreed!!! literally said this to my boyfriend a few seconds ago before scrolling the comments and seeing this. Truly so kind.
I agree!
The collapse of her ENTIRE life after her brother was no longer around seems to imply that she was headed towards an inevitable crisis, it is unfortunate that the worst outcome came to be, but I am curious as to why no one in this girls life picked up on the signs that she was DEPENDENT on the male figures in her life. Not her fault in anyway, it is just such an intensely short period of time to go from a year from graduating college to homeless and addicted to heroin when the only change was her brother was no longer around.
I agree. It seems unusual for sure.
Yeah that's strange that she turned into a heroin addict bc her brother left collage&moved.hmm
We are in opioid crisis in 2019 75% of deaths in the US were from overdoses. The crisis will continues and continues to get worse. It’s mind blowing and crazy how uneducated majority of people are on opioid addiction when it effects so many people and children. this WILL effect your childern and childern of the future. Parents when you tell your kids not to drugs and You don’t know why they don’t either. Learn about how most people become addicted and what opioid withdrawals are and what is the best way for people to get sober (methadone) it is the best way to get sober but barley anyone knows about it. Instead addicts are pointed to ways to recover that have almost 0% success rate. Methadone guarantees success and there needs to be more awareness parents get educated it’ll save lives
@@kjgrjugcnr4513 Methadone as well as Suboxone/Buprenorphine. Sorry, just wanted to add that in but I absolutely agree. And also just to add, a lot of those suffering from opioid addiction are shunned and discouraged from medications like Methadone or Suboxone because of this deceptive statement of "it's just trading one addiction for another." First, people need to learn the difference between physical dependence and substance abuse addiction. They are 2 very different things. You can be physically dependent upon a medication without abusing it and without obtaining a euphoria/high from it. If you're using either of these medications correctly, you will not be high on it.
Instead, many of those suffering from opioid addiction are wrongly steered towards things like NA or AA, which, if you look up success rates, are possibly as low as 2% or more. There are good aspects of this program, but it's not a substitute for true medical treatment, please remember this, folks.
Methadone and Suboxone both save lives. Look up latest scientific research on addiction, specifically opioid addiction before making recommendations and passing judgments on your loved ones, who's last day could be today, given the state of the opioid crisis as it is today (Fentanyl, other very strong and highly dangerous and cheap narcotics being put into the "heroin" today that are killing people.)
Sorry, don't mean to be rude, just wanted to piggy back onto your comment because opioid addiction really is killing our loved ones and we all should be doing so much more about it instead of shaming people. This is such a shame for us as a society.
i was curious if anyone had picked up on that. i have 6 siblings all of who i love very much, and maybe its bc my family wasnt as close as theirs growing up, but it seemed odd how codependent she was to the point where she was following her brother to college and not quite developing a life outside of him.
I know I’m late to comment but I’ve heard this story on several podcast. The entire audio. The “friend” he brought with him was her ex. The one she just broke up with. Him and Max got together and decided to go meet up with her murderer. The cops were on stand-by. I love this UA-cam channel. I’m new to it. Just thought I would chip in a little on what I’ve previously heard. The recording actually has the ex and Max interrogating him at the park.
Big props to her brother. I hope she is found and some kind of peace is brought to all her loved ones.
Let's take a moment to appreciate and thank this creator for paying respect to the victims they cover. A very uncommon thing among True Crime channels that shouldn't be
Unfortunately he consistently mispronounced her name, which was LeA, not Lee
Yes yes yes I love how he is such a Stan for all the victims and makes the killers so pathetic … he’s amazing …
Yes. Most reputable true crime channels respect the victims. Some even put the name of the victim in the video instead of the killers name to bring attention to them instead of glorifying the killer.
Yeah like Mike from that Chapter who is a clown and presenting the cases as if it’s funny.
@@marcop8875 he's my favorite. Really the only improvement he could make would be this.
Absolutely heartbreaking. This young lady had so much to give the world, so much life to live. This one is going to stick with me.
Why would they hold up his end of the plea bargain when he never led them to her body?? Disgusting. Her family will never have proper closure until they find her. I pray that one day they do :(
We all need a brother like Max for sure, though.
Um….. she had nothing to give the world as a heroin addict. A lying, thieving, jobless, mooch.
i love this mans voice. i wish he could narrate my thoughts
This is the first case I ever heard of where the murderer said the tarot cards told him to confess!
I cannot even explain how close this hits to home for me. Heroin is so serious. Many loved ones have passed. I recovered from it. And I moved 3000 miles away from anyone I know with it. I dont know how. With the grace of GOD its almost 10 years clean. Not without help from doctors still today though. The withdrawal is a feeling and a severe pain indescribable that you dont understand unless you go through it. And it will take hold of the best of the best of people anyone...it doesnt matter who you are. It is not like marijuana alcohol or cocaine . you just cant try it. Youre physically hooked right away with a deep deep physical pain. I am so sorry for this beautiful family.
I'm 8 months clean
@@bumsawaymcvey827 💪💪💪
Keep it up my friend. Much love & strength from Australia 😎👍💙❤️🇦🇺
8 months clean is a lot of work. I used to think the the 1st 3 days were hard then I noticed 7 days was worse ...then it got harder and harder. .. It doeant get easier...in time it does ...i think I hope. Everyday just makes you stronger. When you have those dreams or wierd feelings...give yourself a 5 second task of distraction. I have children...so its easy to erase my brain of bad thoughts. But many prayers for you and good job. Always be proud . it is very hard.
@@heatherkrug8401 you have a good attitude and that’s the most important part. You’re determined that no matter how hard it gets, you won’t relapse and go back to using because you now know that’s not a solution to your problems.
8 days, 8 months, 8 years... we all have to be diligent and serious about our sobriety. Congrats to all of you and keep your head up! I’m 5 years clean myself and feel better than I ever have.
Glad you’re doing better now and staying clean.
My new favorite true crime channel because you guys cover cases that aren’t talked about, keep it up 👏🏼
As someone who doesn’t even have kids, it’s hard to just see the pictures, hear the stories and then imagine that someone lost their child.
Heart-breaking.
Same
I have a son who is my world and I have to actively not think about ever losing him (I watch too much true crime) I don’t know how any of these parents go on bc I don’t think I could. They’re so strong
When you lose your spouse your a widow, when you lose your parents your an orphan, losing your child is an indescribable loss there are no words for it.
I admire his brother, he takes action into his own hand. God bless you
It is so sad that this happened to this young woman. I pray that she is found and the family can find some sense of closure to all of this. As far as her killer is concerned, death is far too merciful a fate for a monster like that. I could think of other ways for him to be punished.
Such a sad story. Her brother is an amazing person, I feel so awful for him, finding out she had become addicted to heroin would have been devastating and then to lose her in such an awful way is just unthinkable.
Rip lea porter
That guy has no remorse. If he did he would tell the police where she's at. Nobody should have to be murdered and not get a proper burial. Cats and Dogs are treated better. So sorry to the mom and dad. I feel pain for them.
Hell I buried my gold fish with more respect smdh.
Yes because cats and dogs don’t do heroine and don’t pull knifes when asking for drug money
I am so sorry for this family. We had a neighbor kidnapped and killed. The family suffered until Patrica body was found. It was so so sad 10 years watching for their 16 year old girl
As a skydiver I jumped over 750 times, and over 150 BASE jumps, I was the victim of an attempted car jacking, and was deployed to Afghanistan 6 times...the only thing I truly fear is the feeling of not knowing what happened to my child.
A haunting reality, I wouldn't want to imagine either.
Thank you for serving our country! ❤️
I would go crazy. My life would be over and I would cry day and night. It's the truth.
Yep. I don't even have any kids yet and I still fear it. It is probably the worst thing a human being can experience.
Thank you for your service to our country ❤️
This brother is EVERYTHING!! 🙌 so sorry for this family!🙏❤
his friend too, for letting him get a few hits in....
Lea's dad is what the majority of victims family would say. I don't blame him.
Sending love, prayers and hugs to her family. This case makes me sick every time I hear about it. Her brother is amazing and I admire his tenacity.
Lea was a bright, smart, beautiful woman. Thank you for covering this case. As a friend of Lea, the more eyes on the story, the more chances to find her remains. So it means a lot.
How could he be given a plea deal when he didn’t fulfill his part of the agreement, producing her body? District attorneys are quick to jump at plea deals because it mean MUCH less work for them and they still get to put a conviction on their resume.
Exactly. I thought the plea was only activated when they held up their end of the deal.
@@sneekz07 You should think so, right?! I never will understand these plea deals.
Honestly Pueblo and Westminister are both know to be garbage cities with high crime and corrupt politicians so I’m not surprised.
A good DA runs it by the family. I don't know if they did in this case but trials are long and drawn out and some families don't want to go through that.
What a very sad story, this girl growing up too dependent on her brother, not having learned yet to stand on her own feet. I wish she would have got the chance to correct herself and find balance in her life. R.I.P.!
Im Suprised the brother didint end that man when he had the chance. That takes strength i know i couldint do the same . Rest her soul and may she be at peace eternally. May her family remember the the joy she brought to them and let her light shine on them everyday in their hearts.
I can’t stand when they give those low life a plea bargain and even if they don’t keep there end of the plea they still get less sentence , he should have a life sentence with no parole since her body wasn’t found
Getting the poor girl who was desperately missing her brother on heroin is a crime in itself.
Nothing but respect for this beautiful girl’s dad. RIP Lee
I remember this case and I remember What Her Brother did never forget this case ,, RIP Lea ,, and Much love to her Brother ❤️
It's time to bring back "drawing and quartering" as a punishment. It's not cruel and unusual punishment to take a murderer's life this way because they'd be aware that this would be the punishment for killing an innocent person BEFORE they committed the barbaric, cruel act. And knowing that this was the result, they'd have the opportunity to reconsider having their life taken in such a barbaric way.
Murdering an innocent is what should be considered cruel and unusual punishment. The killer made a CHOICE that resulted in their punishment. Period. The victim had no choice and lost everything. And the fear and regret in their last moments would likely be the most profoundly horrifying feeling that somebody could ever feel. To have no control or any say in one's life ending and to never see one's loved one's again...it does not get more tragic. I dare say that would be more brutal than the impending act of violence committed against them. The demolishing of their emotional being seconds before the end of their physical being is too terrible to consider, in my opinion. And so, to tear the killer's body, limb from limb, literally is not cruel, nor unusual. If we made that the rule of thumb, I suspect in a short span of time, the murder rate would subside greatly. Televise it. I know that I would only have to witness this form of death sentence one time to be completely free of any possible consideration that I'd commit murder against anybody.
Get help.
I hope you get falsely acused and end up on wrong end of the bullcrap you just spewed.
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they should have that punishment for people who rape and murder children
And who would do this awful thing? The reason they automated the lethal injection was because the chair left those who had to throw the switch with PTSD. The only ones who would willingly butcher someone would be serial killers and lunatics. Besides which, there's no evidence that capital punishment acts as a deterrent but plenty of evidence it doesn't, the huge number of inmates on death row being the most obvious.
Very sad how people can kill so easy. My heart goes out to her family.
Why did they let him go the first time? They could hold him on child pornography charge. Police could easily get this out of him but Max had to do their work. Wow! Max is a friend and brother we all need.
You don’t know how things work , there is a body to be found , holding him on child pornography charges would divert the whole attention on the main case and make him even resilient and belligerent to confess any further on things
@@tristan583 been following true crime, trials, interrogations anr all most of my life; long before it became popular on UA-cam. I think I know enough.
Absolutely horrible what she must have went through. My suggestion to the authorities/correction officers is to have him bunk with big bubba or big Leroy and just let them abuse him and I guarantee he'll give up the location to Lea's remains. Then let him stay in there with them for about a year just to get a little more satisfaction out of it. I can't say what I'd actually want to happen to him because I'd get a lifetime ban from UA-cam....
Agree 💯%
TubbyTubb I already received my original account deactivated, because of how, if I was elected POTUS, buy 2 separate islands, one for men and the other for women, then gather up the deplorables in prison, sedate them, then drop them off on these islands to let them fight it out. Oops! I guess that I'm going to have to think of another account. 🤣🤣🤣
@@toniremer1594 that works 4 me
100%.
@@toniremer1594 count me in.
What a breath of fresh air your analyses are. Thank you- for humanising Lea, Max and all of Lea’s family, and all the people victimised who are featured in your analyses.
It brings me to tears to find a channel which actually centres and, more importantly, affirms the human beings who were victims of crime.
Your storytelling firmly keeps Lea, and all others featured, as the main characters of their own lives. Their names aren’t forgotten, or overshadowed by glorification of their executioners, like on most other channels.
Thank you, and rest in paradise Lea. To Max and family; may Lea’s love keep you warm for the rest of your days.
So sad, devastating. I pray they find her body. Prayers for all of them.
The heroin scourge is a terrible thing. I don't think we're ever going to get on top of this. It's very depressing.
I knew Lea personally going to college in Pueblo this is a super sad story and her family deserves clarity.. thoughts and prayers extended there way to this day! 🙏🏽
Really 🙄🙄
Aww💔
Sorry u lost ur friend. Her brother is pretty bad ass tho ehh?!!
I’m sorry you lost your friend what was she like what did she like to do what was her hopes and dreams?
What’s the name of the college? Was surprised this narrator didn’t say.. that I heard, anyway,
So why weren't you talking some sense into Lea? She could have still been alive if it wasn't for you
Like with many murderers, they keep the location of the body to themselves as a trophy of some kind. God Bless her and her family 🙏❤️
so many things to say about this but, no one going through withdrawals is in any mood to have sex. Or do anything of that nature.
I agree
Max is a great brother. This video is highly disturbing, but great coverage.
I saw the video of him recording Waide at the park saying all this. It’s crazy how smart and strategic he was!! It’s like he was his own detective! His sister was definitely looking down on him at the time saying “yeah, that’s my brother!” 😢
I've watched videos about many similar cases, but this one made me especially sad... Seeing how she grew up with so much potential and talent.
But then at some point her life went completely downhill, after her "boyfriend" introduced her to heroin. I hate people like this guy so much. They seek out those who are already vulnerable and make them hurt even more.
How could you give hard drugs to a person you love? People like this probably aren't able to love anybody full heartedly. Just like Lea's killer, this "boyfriend" is responsible for destroying her life.
I hope, her body will be discovered soon and her family may find peace.
greetings from germany ❤️
She wasn't curing cancer. She followed her brother to college to become a massuesse. Very tragic all the same
I love The Fear File. Very well documented and great editing!
Sad to see a brother losing a sibling he's so close to. God bless the family. Max is the man for not killing him in the park. I would've.
Oh man… I can’t take the overwhelming emotion of just thinking about how her brother felt hearing those words coming out of his sister’s killer mouth. . I have 4 brothers and this hit me hard. I would have a hella of time losing them. Damnit.
Mad props to Max!!! I wish u had a brother like you. That was really clever and smooth the way u worked that weirdo into confessing. I can guarantee your sister is still moved by what u did for her. I know I would be. God bless you and ur family.
I don’t see how they can follow through with the plea deal if her remains have not been returned to the family.
I would have voided that deal until she was found.
Because most lawyers are no different than bankers and insurance agents -
They. Don’t. Give. A. F*CK. About. People.
@@maximiliankolbe_NIN yep, it's always, always, ALWAYS, all about the Benjamin's to them!
It seems like Lea had some other issues that her family is well aware of but don't want to discuss. It's not uncommon for siblings to have the same major especially in situations where it may be a career most of their family embarked on or just similar interests but hers doesn't seem to come from that. It seems like an unhealthy obsession or dependency. Her brother finding a job in a different state shouldn't have led to such a level of devastation and depression. Its deeper than what has been revealed.
This video may be exaggerating the closeness of Lea and Max's relationship for dramatic effect.
I love my siblings like this. I hate not living close to them. You never know maybe they were just that close. It doesn’t have to be deeper or something the family won’t discuss it could just be that they were that tight. Like I said I’m like that with my sister and brother. I’m the oldest and I took them under my wing just like max did to Lea. Anyway just sharing my experience and perspective.
@@marieeiram7061 I get it because of one of three and when my youngest sister moved to a different state, I tried to talk her back home but it didn't turn into depression. I also thought it was weird that she wanted to go anywhere but home.
@@yolandawilson6619 yeah you’re right we’ll never know I guess. It’s so sad. I hope you get to visit your sister often. I’m glad you were able to maintain and not get depressed. Sending you good vibes and a hug 🤗
@@notbill08 I doubt that.
I’m glad Max got some punches in to the monster, these plea deals they all get piss me off , when he gets out he’ll probably do the same. I feel so sad for her family!
Brother shouldn't have let him leave uncrippled. Better yet, he shouldn't have left him alive
As an older brother this boils my blood,. Good job though Max, you did what you could.
This is so tragic. I really hope her brother and family somehow find healing ❤️🩹
as an addict in recovery this breaks my heart so much. so often our deaths are overlooked even if its foul play.
Because it’s a very high chance that it is actually the reason, you stupid junk.
I just love his voice as a storyteller!
Yep, perfect voice and pleasant way of telling...
Yep. Very compelling narration.
@@RandoLePerson thats a real voice....a nice voice
@@RandoLePerson the description box literally lists the name of the narrator. 🙄
@@charmainemossallam8410 lol
When someone tells you they're addicted to heroin, fentanyl, or any other serious drugs or alcohol... PLEASE don't start lecturing them about how bad & dangerous, said drug is! They know it! It doesn't help.. in fact (from personal experience), it does the exact opposite of what you intend.
Best thing you can do is talk them into a Methadone/Suboxone clinic. Addicts don't use to get high, they use to not be sick. Suboxone saved my life! Congrats, my friend, you beat the beast.
Sub saved my life. 10 years sober now. 3 years sober from sub.
Wow this video was done so well. Outstanding job!!! Also, my heart and thoughts definitely go out to Lea' s family and friends.
I love this channel, because unlike others covering the case, the comments arent full of unsubstantiated, callous, hurtful remarks about a certain aspect of those involved. Good people.
This is heartbreaking. I too had gone through heroin addiction around the same age as her. I really wish she could of not had people hurt her. She seemed like a good hearted person who just had to overcome the addiction. It's really such a difficult situation because the withdrawals are so unbelievably difficult and it just makes even the strongest willed people have the hardest time and I really hope we can find a way to get better support for these people who are good people but got stuck in the physical addiction that heroin causes. I really relate to this one because I grew up never being a trouble maker and it just was a shock that it came about and even when I was using I wasn't a trouble maker, I was just stuck in the physical parts of it but I didn't want to be a bad person. I just had to stop using and I finally overcame it but it was one of the most difficult things that I have ever gone through and it went on for months before I even remotely started feeling semi okay and not just dying. But now I'm 8yrs clean and I wish this guy didn't hurt this girl because she could of gotten through it too. She had a loving family and that's very important. It helps so much. Sending love out there with this one. ❤️
Awful isn't it. Kudos to you though for getting off and staying off. You have my utmost respect! Good luck for the future, Ben! Xxx
God bless I am truly proud of you. You are a real life hero; you fought a monster and won. You should try being a recovery coach. I promise sweetheart you are needed
You have my upmost respect, stay well 🙏🏼🙌
was anyone around for sid and nancy or the grunge era didn't these people warn how heroin was a death trip?
@@leahflower9924 it's easy to frame it in that manner. Trust me I was such a goody goody and told myself I would never do drugs especially hard drugs. But at 20yrs old I was drinking occasionally and randomly I had a girl talk me into trying ecstasy. I had never experienced anything of that nature before. It was in a way profound because it felt like it helped me over come some mental trauma's BUT later on I came home to my apartment and my roommate was experimenting with heroin and I initially was so pissed. But idk how, since I was drunk and on ecstacy I somehow let my boundaries down and agreed to "just try it" it was the dumbest thing I ever did because I underestimated how much I would have a hard time controlling myself about it because It made me feel good, I stayed active, I mixed it into my life and I totally underestimated how horrid the physical withdrawals were. I convinced myself that if I can control how mentally I get hooked then I can just stop when I want. It's the total opposite. You can be completely not mentally addicted but it doesn't matter at all. Your body is so physically reliant on it that you feel like you're dying and having your muscles ripped off your bones and you don't realize that is how it's going to be until it's too late. Seriously, you can try all you want to describe it but it really is a thing that just happens and you learn the hard way, in the hardest way possible and most people don't come out of that honestly and it's really sad. I hope they can find a way to help people with this problem get clean in a new way because 100% it's the part you can't control that effects everyone from success. It's the how sick and debilitated you get. For months. It took me like 3 months of being so sick, before I could even attempt to walk around the block, and when I tried I made it only part way before just dying, sitting down and just feeling so weak, winded, my blood pressure was dropping then going up, heart rate up and down.. sweats, hot cold, muscle aches... And this was months into quitting. It literally took the most internal mental will power. Yes it was physical but it took so much mental energy to overcome that. I literally felt like I died and was coming back to get a 2nd chance at life and it definitely made me so much more grateful for everything I once overlooked. Not anymore. I appreciate freaking everything nowadays. It's worth pushing through because if you can have a moment in your life you go through experimenting or something, and then can come out the other side, you really can make the best of life without all that, it can just be a chapter of your life's experience. It doesn't need to be a part of you forever. It can just be a thing that evolved you because you sometimes have to learn the hard way. At least some people are like that. Just trying to make the best out of bad situation because there's no point in not because then you can convert that energy into bettering your life now. Now 8 yrs sober. I'm pretty content. I don't even have to think about it anymore, im totally content with my self control and will power and I've gained a ton of trust in myself. The answers are and were within you the whole time anyways, you just have to learn to look at things the right way. Best of love to everyone ❤️
Absolutely believe that dad would himself kill Waide if Justice wasn't served . Honestly the dad is a damn good man which is also why his son is a good man . Such a sad story truly . Her addiction def clouded her thought process and she was around true evil . I wish the family much care in their grief process and good things in life forward .
Thoughts and prayers to Lea’s family. I hope they finally get the closure they deserve someday…
I really hope they find her body. How heartbreaking 💔
So many sketchy characters in the drug scene, very dangerous for a young woman.
Sketchy characters everywhere.......
48 years for murder and child porn?? Holy fuck people have gotten harsher sentences for downloading linkin park cds.
I gotsta have my rock-rap fix
Interesting but sad story. I wonder how he planned on leading police to her body if he dumped her in a Dumpster and she would have ended up in a landfill that he had no specific knowledge of. Also, he should have gotten life. I didn't hear any changes in his charges even though he couldn't lead them to her body.
At least Police can find which dumpster contents go to what landfill . Bodies have been found at Police landfill searches before.
He didnt plan on any of that. Once the deal for 2nd degree murder was signed he was good. He probably knew all along what he was doing, trying to play the police.
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What a great dude max is.
My brother and I have this same kind of relationship since birth. He has been my very best friend my entire life. Glad she had Max.
I remember watching the interview with her brother (at the park were they had met under the guise of tarot reading). I don't think Chris's 'recollections' of what transpired that night are all lies. He clearly took advantage of the fact that she was an addict, knowing she'd most likely do whatever for some cash. Yet, never had any intention of giving her any. Add his unhealthy obsessions to the mix and you have a murder. She might've unintentionally, helped put away a future sk,rpist, and/or Cp distributor for good.Sad case.
As a former herion addict this story watered me up…I knew before u stated she was on drugs…she was on drugs based on the depression she no doubtedly suffered from the life change and being away from someone she stayed so very close to..extremely sad story and one that definitely hit close to home
I ALSO AM A RECOVERING HEROIN ADDICT, THE DIFFERENCE BTWN MALE ADDICTS AND FEMALES IS HOW VULNERABLE GIRLS ARE WHILST IN THE GRIPS OF THE WHITE DEMON AKA HEROIN. IT IS A SEDUCTIVE, CRUEL DRUG THAT TAKES EVERYTHING FROM YOU. SOMETIMES IT CAN BE YOUR LIFE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IT TOOK ME 20 YEARS TO FINALLY BEAT THIS EVIL DRUG. SO HITTING CLOSE TO HOME I TOTALLY KNOW WHERE UR COMING FROM. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK REMAINING CLEAN MY RECOVERING BROTHER. RIP TO LEA AND TO HELL WITH HER KILLER. PEACE. OUT.
Max fucking rocks. I hope they can find Lee soon so the family can get some closure
Im so sorry to hear this for the family of Lea 😔 How heartbreaking !! I pray that she is found and that her family can properly lay her to rest. 🙏
My heart, thoughts and prayers go out to Lea's family and friends! Max is definitely her hero and angel!
It's sickening that this piece of 💩 will not be honest enough to help her family locate where she is, so I hope that he receives "prison justice" every single day and night!
I don’t usually get emotional with these videos . With the brother controlling his emotions and getting a confusion for his sister really got me
Absolutely love fear files keep the storys coming I really appreciate this channel I really do love it
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Very well Narrated .
Comprehensive and excellent coverage.
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Much Appreciated.
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I don't uderstand the 'plea deal'. If he didn't disclose where the remains of Lea are, what's the 'deal'? He already confessed to killing her. So, am I missing something?
True talent for narrating true crime. Please keep up the great work. Subscribed.
I don't understand why this guy wouldn't say where Lea is, he's already busted. Why not let the fam have their closure of her funeral?
Leverage for trying to get his sentence reduced probably. That’s usually what that is.
Doesn't want them to find the body, as the autopsy will show his story is absolute bullshit.
I got more than half way thru this doc before I realized I had heard this case before. I really appreciate your team because this shines a much better light on Lea. RIP Baby girl❤
Bless her soul and bless the family that they bring her home someday soon. Bless them and give them the strength they need.
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It only took a few more punches by the brother to reveal the location of her body. That's the only way to get a confession from criminals.
Good in Max!! That’s a fucking man and a hell of a big brother. What bothers me is how incompetent the police were in this. Far too often civilians do the police work but police get the credit
It honestly probably wasn’t the best idea to force him to confess while threatening violence. A confession made under durress like that would be worthless in any court and could’ve hurt the case. I understand why he did it though.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx it wasn't made under duress. Violence was used after it was admitted. Max could be charged with assault but the confession should still stick.