"In recent years, several bodies had been dumped at this secluded spot." Well, I think it's high time they install some CCTV cameras around there then so they could get a good gander at who is dumping the bodies and/or some license plates numbers!
to know that if his wife wasn't being a cheater she'd still be alive! Tragic. Poor husband and poor children. Shame on her for inviting such evil into their lives.
Imagine finding out your wife and the mother of your children was brutally murdered and you wake up to have random people taking pictures of your family because it’s their “job”. You already know what they look like. Leave the family alone
Hope Nancy Grace apologized to her husband and kids. Poor dude finds out his wife is murdered, gets blamed for it, then find out she was cheating with multiple dudes. That's brutal af.
It's infuriating that the cops arrested a 13yr old boy, handcuffed him & dragged him to the police station. They should be sued for this. The media blaming the victim for her own death is disgusting. People turn into saints when judging others. No one deserves to die such a violent death. RIP Orsolya!
@@hideousruinthis is UA-cam, not an English lesson, so perhaps you should get down from that high horse of yours? Actually, since you've brought it up, the articulation of the sentence was perfectly fine and completely inoffensive, whereas your judgements are not.
What the cops did to the boy of 13 is despicable. Deserves litigation. Excellent respectful work here. Thanks for bringing the story to light. Appreciate
Cops do no wrong, in eyes of a bootlicker! Cops have rules, procedures and protocol (Well, the "good" ones anyway!) Kids' rights were trampled by thugs.
@Zen I disagree Karen. I think they show a great deal of respect when detailing the victims. If you're so worried about them making money, stop watching.
Dragging a 13yr old boy out of his house without shoes, interrogate him without an adult, hearing his mom was found dead during the interrogation and all this just while he woke up that morning. Well this boy is traumatized for a long time. I hope his dad sue this presinct. Just a sorry doesnt cut it 4 me☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼
@Chris Shaffer Yes I do. I think dragging a half sleeping kid out of bed with no shoes and accusing him of killing his Mother with little too no proof it was him, and in doing this breaking the news to him that his Mother was murdered...yes, yes I definitely think this added to the trauma.
I feel so bad for the husband. You are minding your own business, provide for the family, and support the kids, and not only you find out your wife was murdered, but by the one of the multiple dudes she was sleeping with 😐. How can you trust someone else after this? I mean, he must be devastated in 2 different ways: loosing the wife, and cheated by her,that is so messed up!
You all are so confused imho and unempathic. As its ts the guj who was stalking And harassing her. And even when she was murdered in this horrible way you all mention her as if she deserves IT suiker the killer was a father and husband. There is no comment about his infidelity.. Its disgusting to see so much hatred towards women even when they are slaughtered and abused and are in no way worse than than the Opposites sexe .
@@roxi_lovesmakeup Some people aren't able to sympathise with men. They are deeply hateful and tend to project, and call others hateful in the process, you're fine. Your comment is perfectly reasonable, the husband certainly lost a lot.
@@eabeloth7035 okay, so because she is a woman we can’t say that it was wrong of her to cheat on her husband and that it was sad for the husband to not only find out that his wife was murdered and that on top of that she was Amos cheating on him? I really dislike it when people do what you are doing. I’m a woman and I feel bad for her husband. We need to be careful with who we get involved with, you never know who you are letting into your life. It is sad she was murdered but just because she is a woman and got murdered does not justify her affair.
I don't have any respect for law enforcement anymore. I'm happy they remove murderers,rapists,and pedos from the streets. But mostly, they flash and flaunt their badges. And most sign up just to use their weapons.I heard that from an ex police officer. 🖕
I doubt the HIV claim was true. It has never been reported. But that poor husband! She’s cheating with 3 men, and she gets killed? If she’s got 3 men now, how many did she have throughout the marriage?
I still have a hard time believe she would get with that dude...ew they don't come from any part of the "same cloth" in any walk or part of life. But such is life sometimes if I'm wrong.
I said that in one of the first videos I saw of him as well yesterday or earlier this morning lol, idk when I been binging lol. But yeah that’s something I really like and respect that I literally never see any of the other channels I watch that use these people’s stories as a way for them to get views and make money do ever. It is nice to see someone actually say it and all, even if the other channels I’m sure mean it just don’t say it, I never hear any of them say it and it is a nice thing to do for each and every person’s story he follows.
I saw a comment earlier saying this page is a cut above the rest when it comes to these true crime videos. That respect that he pays to the victims is that one extra cut that puts him above the rest for real!!!
To the narrator of this video, who described this woman so beautifully, well done. To the police, Nancy Grace and everyone else to handled this case, absolutely disgusting. So poorly handled and that 13 year old boy will forever be traumatized. Those were the moments he should have been comforted the most, and instead he was illegally questioned and man handled. So tragic. I pray this family is able to heal and find some peace after this unimaginable event.
How did they think this child put a grown adult in a duffle bag and dragged her all the way to a highway? Disgusting, adding more trauma to this poor boys life. I hope they get sued for gross misconduct.
@Augusto Pinochet that's not the end all, be all. There are limitations which is why people commonly win lawsuits against cops/departments or receive settlements thru the possibility of wrongdoing being found if the suit continued .
i agree, but tbf in the photo where they are near the car, the 13 yo kid is quite tall for his age. he is as tall as the police officer who is standing beside him.
I don't see any issue with the idea of a 13 year old boy being able to drag approximately 100-120 lbs a few blocks. The police also didn't have the video yet. What they did have was a bloody crime scene downstairs, a trail of blood from the body to that scene and the son being the only person in the house. Kids that age and younger have done as bad. What if he had killed his mom and they ignored him. The police would justifiably be called idiots who should be fired for ignoring evidence and a likely suspect
I thought it was interesting how the only real mention of the husband was while they were trying to tie him to the murder despite his seemingly airtight alibi. They never clear him or speak of his emotional roller coaster.
I can’t believe the teen was in the police station without an adult . If that had happened to my child I’d be suing. He was accused of her murder, that’s how he found out she was dead? Oh my gosh 😢😢😢😢😢😢 The police owe that child an apology!!!! They had him with no shoes ??? I’m sorry but I lose respect for cops daily hearing these horrible things.
[possibly the worst way ever...traumatizing. an apology is the least they owe him-idk what could make that right. Their mother raised 2 wonderful young men]
@@ginaharden2111 It’s so tragic that he had to find out his life was changed now and his dear mum was m…der! Trauma he will be burdened with always. No adult present, no shoes on and handcuffed. I hope the Department compensates this lost young man and an HUGE APOLOGY …. PUBLICLY ! I mean… ‘GARGANTUAN’, I love 💕 that word! I pray 🙏 for your boys to make it count how well you did raise them… 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Accusing the kid = He was the only one at the end/beginning of the blood trail. Treating brutishly= That is one person's subjective opinion. You nor I was there. Naming the husband and the other kid as persons of intrest w/o evidence = The tweets were suspect and the husband is ALWAYS the 1st suspect. Futhermore the chick was kinda of a slut. Piss off any dude. Cops as thugs?? Naah just doing their job. Did pretty well really...got the right guy. 🤷♂️
The guy who discovered the body and it's source through the blood trail is a true angel. It was definitely his job to unveil everything about the where and what of the crime. The police however had to unveil the how. I am glad this murder was solved and I hope the family heals from this gruesome trauma. Sad her husband and kids had to be put under a spotlight during the time of their grief.
I was wondering why he wasn't the prime suspect. And to be fair, I don't think he discovered anything important that wasn't going to be discovered within the next hour anyway.
Funny how they all came for the husband only to be disappointed that it wasn't him. They didn't even apologize! Imagine everybody in town dating your wife and then being accused of her death done by one of her lovers, then finding out she had HIV, and now you have to go test yourself and your kids because their mom might have infected everybody.
Now everyother true crime utuber is gonna jump on the band wagon.. It's crazy how they all do this except the exceptional few who earned their spot on here..
Damn, the husband has to deal with all of this BS and he was just doing the best for his family. Can see why he was pissed at the camera man. Wife was murdered by a dude she was cheating with...while he was out their just being a husband supporting the family. Sons have to deal with loss of mom and her cheating on their dad with multiple guys.
I know, right. Cheating not only destroys a marriage, it literally ruins people. Like, if you want attention and/or need to sleep around that bad at 50 yrs old, then just get a divorce for Christ's sake - and get it BEFORE you start ho'ing around - as to save your spouse & kids embarrassment & even more trauma. Kids don't deserve that sh!t. The WORST is when people are ho'ing around and say they're staying married "for the kids". 😅
@@1w598 Why do you assume she was "cheating" you have no idea what her marriage was like. There is such a thing as an open marriage and he could have had girlfriends as well. Who is the ho in that situation? People are so shitty when it comes to women but completely unsurprised when a man is caught outside the marriage bed.
Besides the children, I feel bad for the husband too. Of course in this type of cases a husband will be the first person of interest, but that reporter guy taking pictures of him while treathening to call the police is really irritating, also that old bat Nancy who always acusses the wrong person... Plus she cheated him with that ugly creepy looking stalker, that probably hurts him the most.
@@policestate4879 dude/dudette WHY THE HATE? WHY? Does it give you PERVERTED relief? Does your comment give you some other kind of relief like “ mommy” issues? Or, daddy issues? ….. chill ffs
Or my favorite, "they were full of life" or "loved life" lol. Like oh too bad they killed this wonderful person instead of some loser who didn't love life. But then yeah you find out they're deeply flawed and were f'ing around before they found out.
I feel so so sad for what her family has been through and is going through for sooo many reasons. It's not enough that your mom and your wife are brutally murdered...you also have to find out that she isn't who you thought she was. My heart breaks for them. God be with this family...
ASMIRA : So much agree. She lived a double life. It all will come out sooner or later, and never underestimate the actions of other that you fooled around with.
Agree! The family she LEFT behind suffers the collateral damage. Selfish nasty piece of work. She should still be alive had she NOT lived in promiscuity.
I think it's kind of inevitable when you have married a barbie..... she is going to find crazies who will do ANYTHING for her I mean appreciate her beauty despite being a married woman I dated a really hot chick a few years back I couldn't believe how much her ex boyfriends were still trying to get in touch with her or still in love with her lol life is nt as easy as it seems for hot people
Out of many murder and crime shows on UA-cam, yours rate higher than most. They are really well produced, video-taped, narrated, etc. I also really like that the crime is solved instead of ending with out a definite conviction and sentence. Your series is very watchable, suspenseful good entertainment.😉
So glad to discover that this narrator is a real person. Love your voice Jason Forbis. You're the reason I subscribe to this channel rather than the myriad others.
I feel sorry the most for her husband he lived with a cheating wife ending in her shocking murder & pepole harassing him accusing him for her murderer especially Nancy drew who likes to play a detective on her show moving the media against a man who proved innocent and on top his wife infidelity exposed to the whole world, he have to live with all that, my sympathy for the husband and kids
@@Seashellsbytheseashore21 if she is a prosecutor than it is in her profession, not in her nature. Now Nancy is not a prosecutor, she's just a televised opinion maker.
Firstly-Nancy Grace, uggggh! OK got that out of my system. Though I understand the police tend to take an interest in spouses as a suspect in murder cases, but to drag a 13 year old out like some seasoned felon and treat him so shockingly is completely inexcusable. Though it’s a terrible thing, Orsolya’s murder, to not only to be treated as the murderer of your wife who you then discover was being unfaithful for so many years must have sent him into an emotional spin and a half. So his wife dies, and she is not who he believed her to be. His son is manhandled and intimidated. He’s being held responsible. I wish him and his son the best, hopefully somehow they can keep some type of sanity to get through life.
Fear files actually has a great presentation. Unlike other channels, I like how this channel only has a narrator that doesn't show their face. Nothing is wrong with that, but i don't like that style. Also, showing pictures/videos of what ever that is relevant to the case is what sepperates this channel's presentation apart from others. I applaud.
Interesting - I find presentations where the narrator becomes a focal point or personality distasteful. Good thing youtube has a good variety to choose from!
@@jessosiyoway if the presenter is likeable but also heartfelt while discussing a tragic situation... I find it easier to digest the information. Like Mike from that chapter. But a good narrator is awesome also. I can dig both ways of doing it as long as it is done tasteful and respectful to the victim and family.
Jeeze! It's almost like the police wanted the murderer to be a family member. That poor kid. And her husband being hounded by the press. The police were terrible on this one.
@@DJVIIIMan your point? it doesnt hurt the media to wait until they know forsure, and dragging a 13 year old out the house and treating him with no dignity is fucked up. it’s not hard to be a lil compassionate.
@Chris Shaffer yes but sending reporters to people houses and harassing them, juss because they might be a suspect and ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE FAMILY is fucked up. the guy wasn’t even in the same state bruh. that doesn’t resolve him but it don’t make sense why the media would demonize him so early on. what planet do you live on?
@@sxlrac_barlos3392 the problem is,it might well have been the son,or the husband.I’m so glad it wasn’t.But it happens so many times,they have to treat them as suspects.Sad,but true.
1. Cops are usually the ones that give bad news sooooo why would that be out of the ordinary 2. They detained his father and his son was a suspect, were they suppose to leave him at the house. 3. Finding the murderer is the MAIN GOAL. I'll leave this so you have a better grasp of the law. Children under the age of 18 are subjected to the same conditions as adults with regard to pre-arraignment detention. In New York State, this may mean up to or exceeding 24 hours in custody subjected to interrogation, potentially without a parent or guardian present.
@@felixfungle-bung4688 Thanks for commenting/replying one month later, when I have no recollection of this video. Next time chime in sooner, sonny boy, if you're looking for a meeting of the minds.
And that she was murdered just floors below you and the killer could have easily decided to kill you and your brother too. Thank God the husband didn't call the police. The murderer thankfully just went after the person who scorned him.
That poor kid. I really feel for him. And what he went through. I cant imagine losing my Mother. And I’m a grown adult. But to murder? I cant begin to imagine that pain. On top of that, to be accused of her murder? That’s pain no one should feel.
Nancy Grace has exhausted her 15 minutes of fame…a thousand times over. I can’t believe she’s legally allowed to be on tv still, the way she throws accusations around like some gossiping ninny.
Most gagged on her when she was pregnant with the twins. Everyone was if I here her mouth one more time. I never mention her name, she a ton of people sick of her, yes she is super rude and a finger pointer. I'm sure she has always been critical of everyone. Imagine living with her 🤯
When she had her show on regular TV years ago... I used to joke that she was keeping all the missing people she would report on tied up in her basement to keep her show filled with victims. The number of times she has been wrong about cases like this one... or pounded others to suicide or madness is obscene. She needs to put a cork in that pie hole. Early on she was a guilty pleasure now she is just a harpy and a bore!
I cannot imagine the trauma Leo suffered that day. Imagine waking up and suddenly you’re arrested under suspicion of murdering your mom, and then you’re trying to even grapple what’s going on and that your mom died, and you’re being interrogated alone…. I literally cannot imagine what that was like for him. I understand they would of course need to question him and that he may have been a suspect immediately, but it was handled SO wrong
The children 😞 as a mother I wish I could hug them , just so sad , the courage of the son at the end paying tribute to his mother’s memory ♥️ , heart breaking !! I wish the sons and father a happy life and a beautiful future a head ♥️✨✨✨✨✨
The person I think needs to have charges brought against is the misdirected, big mouthed, egotistical television announcer who acted as though she was a real detective and falsely accused this poor husband who had already suffered heart break from his unfaithful wife only to be slandered by the uncaring, front page grabbing television announcer. SHAME ON YOU!
Yeah, he shouldn't get any sympathy. His wife was murdered then later finds out she was unfaithful. His son was traumatized by the cops. He should get over it, right?
I can’t wait for this one I have been following this case and it’s really horrific how people are pointing fingers to the husband of the victim but later turned something else
Sunday dumaka- people are always, quick to judge, you see. Such a’ tragedy!!! Can, I say, beautiful 😻 little girl u have, on the photo,,, sweetie. Stay safe guys.
Idk if I should feel bad for the wife's death or disappointed and ashamed of her infidelity. Either way the husband went through the worst. Hope they apologized. A prayer to him hope he heals
God, I would hate to be the victim and/or any of her family members, but I would also hate to be Glen, the man that found her. Glad you guys found a recent case; haven't heard of this one yet.
This is a sad situation no matter how you slice and dice it. Mother loses her life, kids loses their mother, husband loses his ‘unfaithful’ wife and has to live with the humiliation of it all. 🤦🏽♀️
So very true. As a married person you not only betray your partner, but the kids as well. This murder would have never happened without her being unfaithful.
@@LiquidShivaz and also the strumpet to immediately attack anyone mentioning anything about her cheating. No one is saying she deserved what she got, these are very much facts of the case. That's why it was mentioned in the video.
@@fredajordan5704 Don't be ridiculous! She was unfaithful, not a first not last either and it's not a crime. She shouldn't have been murdered for it!! Are you serious? We don't know anything about these people's married life. He could've been unfaithful too, we don't know anything. Stop with a victim blaming!
That’s one costly affair ? She surely did not deserve to be murdered over the indiscretion. I feel very badly for her husband and children especially the 13 year old boy who was interrogated by incompetent police. What a horrific tragedy all the way around.
This was a great episode. I have been following this case from the UK. I'm sad to say but I initially thought her husband had something to do with it. Imagine loving your wife, having children, providing a rich lifestyle and you find your wide murdered then find out she had multiple lovers on the side
@Rob W Right?! The day this hit the news I facetiously commented on the news video about “it probably being her side piece that did it” with no knowledge of the situation and got absolutely hated for it. Turned out that is exactly what happened. It Usually is for the bored house wives of wealthy-ish husbands who provide everything a wife could want……
@@RizztrainingOrder I agree with you. People got angry with me when I said this would likely not have happened had she not been cheating on her husband. I thought she had one lover, I did not know she had multiple men on the go, so she did not feel too bad about betraying her husband . She was looking for a replacement lover when she was murdered. I feel sad for the children, her family, and most of all her husband. Sounds like she was staying in the marriage for the kids and the cold hard cash.
@@Deez80085 Well everybody is originally from somewhere else, except for the indigenous. America even decided to break away, and gain independence from England.
Thank you so much for the detailed coverage and respect you show to the victims and their families. Can you please cover the case of Jawaher Heji. Not a lot of people are talking about it and something seems fishy and unfair about the whole case, and her mom is seriously heartbroken since she's trying to get the authorities to take her case seriously but keeps getting ignored or treated badly for an unknown reason. Thank you for all that you do.
I remember when this came out. Everyone on FB blamed the husband and swore it was him and how he was probably cheating and he was a pod. And then when they figured out it was instead the wife, they said oh we shouldn’t judge. Man dragged through the mud and the woman gets a pass every time.
Imagine being handcuffed at age 13 not knowing what's going on and then finding out that your mom is murdered because they're accusing you of doing it. I would be devastated. This poor boy do they really think that this 13 year old stuffed his dead weight mother into a double bag and dragged her across town? These officers should be ashamed
I feel for the kids and husband. Nothing rips your heart out like a cheating partner and then this on top of it... Not sure how those 3 males will ever find any sort of normality ...
It's shocking how other's can make assumptions about innocent people (the husband) and harass them, with NO consequences for their action's. Not all families are involved in such horrific situation's. It's so sad. 💔
I’m sorry but people interested in “true crime” do this all the time. They stalk and harass victims and their friends and family. They accuse innocent people. Look at how people acted when those college kids were killed in Idaho.. so many innocent people accused and harassed.
I live only 20 minutes away from forest hills. I remember when this story came out. Usually very quiet and family environment ...very shocking and chilling crime. R.i.p
I love your channel. You always have obscure stories unlike my former favorite channels that seem to tell overly reported stories, with very predictable endings. Thanks for digging deep for your channel
It is absolutely terrifying and traumatic that that poor boy had to learn about the horrible way his mom passed away in the way that he did. I lost my dad as a 9 year old and that was horrible enough to be told about it from my own mom. I cannot imagine how much pain he, his dad, brother and the rest of their family is going through. Also, it's one thing to have an affair, but it's another thing to be murdered. She WAS wrong to be cheating on her husband - but so many people sadly do it every day, for years. I don't have much empathy for people who choose to have affairs, but I do have empathy for her and her family because she did NOT deserve to be murdered so ruthlessly and left there with no care. Those boys didn't have a chance to say goodbye to their mom, and the choice they would've had to forgive her for her wrongdoings was taken away from them and put on public display for everyone to make assumptions about her. That's got to be difficult. I completely agree that it is an instance of genuine victim shaming.
And ppl ignore the fact that all the killer did was study how to emotionally manipulate women and that she actually ended the relationship. He was so persistent, it’s nonsense to blame her like that
Seriously disturbing to see people use her affair to justify her murder... If you cheat on your partner, you deserve being dumped/broken up with/ divorced etc. You do not deserve to be fucking savagely murdered and stuffed into a goddamn duffel bag and thrown into the street like garbage. wtf is wrong with people
@@ScratchthechalkBoard True. However, he was only one of many affairs which was a motive for his murdering her. Sorry, but her actions not only caused her death, it's sentenced her children to a lifetime of indescribable pain, anguish and heartache as well. She did NOT deserve to be murdered, period.
@@Nostalgic_1 he claimed she was seeing another man. HE claimed she was seeing another man. He also considered her to be cheating when she was married which is a peek into his perception of things..
Orsolya had a great looking family and living nicely, no need to walk alone to a bar past midnight then walk back home. She’s 50 yo and had NO business getting involved with other men, this is a reckless, hi risk and immoral behavior !
@@Tabiannax84x Heavens NO, it’s never justified; however, she lived in a 2-4$ million dollar house, the last guy to finish her off was practically homeless. They were as incompatible as oil in water, she was twice his age, married, has a family and a wonderful life. The girls called the police twice coz they were scared of him.
@katieszarkowicz7254 An inebriated woman alone walking alone past mid nite is a terrible decision, piss poor judgement. What does this have to do w. the bible
Uh, well, the adult in his life was dead and the other adult was out of state. He’s on the site with a bloody body . That’s how you interrogate a minor. Statistics show that murdered people are related to the murderer. Any other questions, Nancy Drew?
The key is not everyone is human but If you are , it is detrimental not to mingle with animalistic energies! If people only new that having a human body does not make one human!
Orsolya is pronounced "Orshoya" and it is the formal version of the name. The informal version is Orsi (Orshee). May she rest in peace... Nice documentary, keep up the good work!
Wow! Thank you for filling us in! There’s a big difference between the spelling and the target words! How is it that the “l” is not pronounced? I haven’t watched the whole documentary still, but would you mind telling me where is she from, so I can check the pronunciation system of their language! Thanks again! 💗
@@issafula So in hungarian language we have more letters in the alphabet than in english. We have two "y", one is "j" and the other one is "ly". Both are pronounced as y. Don't ask me what the point is though... We just have to learn as kids which word has got j in it like "papagáj" (parrot) and which has ly in it like "folyó" (river). Also the english "s" is "sz" in hungarian. We also have "zs" which is a softer version of the sound "sh". Please don't get me started on "ty", "gy" 'cause we have those too.😂 Apparently hungarian is one of the hardest languages to learn for an english speaker. Grammar is totally different too. Beautiful language though!
@@Essie-Cakes She said “don’t get me started with…” 🤣🤣🤣. It’s beautiful though and very much interesting. I studied Estonian for my thesis and I love every bit of it. It was interesting and different. Estonian was not as difficult though. I’d like to know how it work with Hungarian. I saw their spelling and omg haha it definitely looks difficult. However, if I ever had the chance to study Hungarian I would have too. I actually went there in 2016. Very beautiful country 💗. Thank you, Ester 🤍 (I am Spanish btw)
@@issafula Spanish?? My most favourite people! I had the luck to work with spanish nationals and they all were like a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. Always happy and cheerful and kind. ♥️
Amazing job with covering this case! All of your content is great. And the time put into research, and getting the details, really shine in this one. It is very sad, and such a tragedy. My heart breaks for her sons, husband, and family.
Orsoyla most certainly didn't deserve to die, but I think a lot of the critical talk surrounding her is moreso a reminder for each and every person to be cautious and aware of the people you surround yourself with. That being said, even if Orsolya had been divorced and just dating these men, considering the dark and twisted nature of her killer, he probably would have killed her or someone else at some point anyway.
The name of the theme song is “Credulous Gal” by Anzem. I know I was searching for it for a long time and finally had to email Fear Files to get the title/artist name. I told them I’d pass on the information for them, one more thing that they don’t really have time to do. It’s a royalty free song, so anyone can use it, so long as they credit the artist. ua-cam.com/video/ojAx7kMJ1TE/v-deo.html
So if you walk up to someone who is stabbing another person to death in an alley, and try to stop them, then they turn around and stab you to death... does that make you a victim? Sure. Does that make you partially responsible for your own demise? Absolutely. How about this one.. If you murder someone and the state decides to give you the death penalty, does that make you a victim? Yes, you're a victim of the state. Does that make you accountable for your own death? ABSOLUTELY. Point is, people can be victims, and accountable for their own death at the same time. This woman spent all this time cheating on her husband with MULTIPLE men over several years, and took way too many risks. Did she deserve death? No way. Did she contribute to her own death? Definitely!
It’s always hard to feel much empathy for an adulterer. If you mess around with someone willing to sleep with someone else’s spouse (ie a home wrecker), know that you are sleeping with a very disturbed individual
Anyone know if Nancy Grace recanted her "social commentary" against the husband? I feel for the guy who would have been hounded in spite of his innocence. Several thousand kms in distance is a little hard to argue for him being a culprit...
*_I cannot stand Nancy Grace!_** She speculates and makes unfounded claims, and just rolls right along without ever saying she might be wrong, or apologizing when her statements prove erroneous! That's the one thing I wanted to comment on and I'm glad someone else noticed it too. She's a menace and needs to be stopped!*
This is truly horrible, shocking and traumatic for her sons and husband, I really feel for them. Even though Orsolya had extra-marital affairs she did not deserve to be killed. What she saw in that ugly lowlife beats me. She seemed to have it all; handsome husband, lovely boys, nice home and all thrown away for a worthless fling /affair which sadly resulted in her own horrific death and the lifelong trauma of her immediate family.
She didn’t deserve to die by no means but yes Had she been faithful to her Husband like she should of been she would still be here alive with her kids.
@ *DRTBKE* I completely agree, Nick Crowley really touches on some dark stuff too, especially 'UA-cams Most Disturbing Channels' series. Especially the episode about that convicted Ped who was making terrifying uploads (sorry I'm writing this here but I couldn't respond on the Live Chat mmy friend lol). Was gonna subscribe to your channel but couldn't find it! It's a real pleasure! Love the Fear Files family! You're all *AWESOME* and of course, THANK YOU for another fantastic upload as always!!!!! Beautiful watching quality rise to the top!!! Stay safe family and blessed be
Forest Hills is a beautiful neighborhood. In fact it’s much more interesting than the stock footage used at the beginning of the video. Sad story, condolences to the family.
Are you victim blaming? She can't tell her side of the situation. She was brutally murdered; she was taken away from her children. He is 100% responsible for his actions; someone ending a relationship is not a reason to kill them ever.
Imagine being a child drug out of your house by police half asleep and cuffed being accused of murdering your own mother. That poor family R.I.P Orsolya
I hope the sons farther went after the police that cuffed and interrogated his 13-year-old son accusing him of killing his mother. How could a 13-year-old use up the energy it takes two stab someone over 50 times and then have the strength to put her in a duffle bag and drag her what looked like miles and miles from the little map that they showed at the beginning of the video and then walk back home get rid of any evidence that he would have had on him bloody clothes bloody shoes so obviously they didn't look around for any bloody clothes in the trash cans or look to see if the shower or bathtubs had been used hell didn't even look to see if he could have cleaned up outside. Every single person that had anything to do with taking that child to the police station and interviewing him should be fired.
It's not uncommon as.they put my 16 yr old daughter in a cell at the station when she was.with me and I was pulled over for a ticket I'd not gone.to.court on. The superior finally saw her and told them to take her out of the cell. Idiots. Cops are not the best and brightest let me tell u.
"In recent years, several bodies had been dumped at this secluded spot."
Well, I think it's high time they install some CCTV cameras around there then so they could get a good gander at who is dumping the bodies and/or some license plates numbers!
That would make too much sense and cut into the doughnut fund.
Or at least a “dump bodies here” sign.
Or a big "No Dumping" sign should do the trick.
It’s not that often.. I grew up around this area.. it is a huge park but for the most part it isn’t very isolated, constant traffic there
Tbh I thought serial killer dumping ground
The poor husband, what a strange mix of emotions he has to deal with.
to know that if his wife wasn't being a cheater she'd still be alive! Tragic. Poor husband and poor children. Shame on her for inviting such evil into their lives.
Sure he had some idea
It's not illegal to cheat and sometimes it helps a relationship to thrive.
Not to mention being harassed by media and whack jobs
He made a mistake in 94.
Imagine finding out your wife and the mother of your children was brutally murdered and you wake up to have random people taking pictures of your family because it’s their “job”. You already know what they look like. Leave the family alone
SO much agree.
it makes news what do you want? it is business
and I would curse my wife for putting me through that
And also that she'd made a fool of you and been running around with at least one dude.
@@Sinsteel and with the ugly Mesican handyman? are you kidding me? Is that the best she could find? this is just an insult to the injury...
Jason Forbis is the best narrator this channel has acquired to date. Please keep him moving forward.
He even managed to paint that little whore as a wonderful person 😂 that wasn’t an easy task. spot on
Hope Nancy Grace apologized to her husband and kids. Poor dude finds out his wife is murdered, gets blamed for it, then find out she was cheating with multiple dudes. That's brutal af.
Good point-My thoughts exactly!! Calling him out on TV like she has any clue about it…obviously she didn’t👎
*She's been doing this speculative, unsubstantiated "commentary" for years and I can't recall her ever admitting to being wrong or at fault for it!*
Do you hope the murderer apologizes too? ... more fake outrage.
Isn’t that defamation?!
Nancy Grace is a cold hearted B. She caused two separate women to commit suicide. I truly have no idea how she lives with herself.
It's infuriating that the cops arrested a 13yr old boy, handcuffed him & dragged him to the police station. They should be sued for this. The media blaming the victim for her own death is disgusting. People turn into saints when judging others. No one deserves to die such a violent death. RIP Orsolya!
Well said.
@@alyxcoward3734 You may agree with him but it wasn't "well said." It was actually poorly articulated.
Sorry, I just prefer that words have meaning.
I think you should blame the so called mother and wife not the police they are doing their job but she did not
@@hideousruinthis is UA-cam, not an English lesson, so perhaps you should get down from that high horse of yours? Actually, since you've brought it up, the articulation of the sentence was perfectly fine and completely inoffensive, whereas your judgements are not.
@@hideousruin your opinion and definitely not what I seen I liked reading the comment and didn't see anything in it that was poorly articulated
What the cops did to the boy of 13 is despicable. Deserves litigation. Excellent respectful work here. Thanks for bringing the story to light. Appreciate
Nah
Especially since it’s against the law to question minors without counsel and parental consent
@@MimiB1974 Thank you! Some people here believe it was not only ok but justified. Appreciate you pointing out the rules. Be well
Cops do no wrong, in eyes of a bootlicker! Cops have rules, procedures and protocol (Well, the "good" ones anyway!) Kids' rights were trampled by thugs.
@Zen I disagree Karen. I think they show a great deal of respect when detailing the victims. If you're so worried about them making money, stop watching.
I love that this channel doesn't start with "like, and subscribe!" And instead sincere empathy, every time.
Dragging a 13yr old boy out of his house without shoes, interrogate him without an adult, hearing his mom was found dead during the interrogation and all this just while he woke up that morning. Well this boy is traumatized for a long time. I hope his dad sue this presinct. Just a sorry doesnt cut it 4 me☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼
well too many times it is the 13 year old that killed them
@@lyricberlin that doesnt make it right bcz this time they were wrong.
@@lyricberlin IT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT!
@Chris Shaffer Yes I do. I think dragging a half sleeping kid out of bed with no shoes and accusing him of killing his Mother with little too no proof it was him, and in doing this breaking the news to him that his Mother was murdered...yes, yes I definitely think this added to the trauma.
@@lyricberlin so that’s a good reason to violate rights and cause long term damages to his mental health? That’s Progressive thinking 🤦♂️
The police department should be sued for questioning a minor without the presence of an adult.
And for treating him so violently!
That's kinda the least of things to be worried about
Totally agree on that one! They didn't even let the poor kid get his shoes on..Horrible
FTP! What else to say… 😏😏😏
Oh yeah NYPD are assholes 100%im from NYC
I feel bad for the husband. Imagine being married and finding out your wife was murdered by a man she had an affair with.
Because she was having another affair with a 4th dude. Disgusting
Imagine after finding out your wife was killed by her lover, finding out that she has/had HIV!! 😳
AND murdered not because of you, but because of ANOTHER MAN!!! This one was wild
😳
@@Strlrd1023are you kidding me bro??
I feel so bad for the husband. You are minding your own business, provide for the family, and support the kids, and not only you find out your wife was murdered, but by the one of the multiple dudes she was sleeping with 😐. How can you trust someone else after this? I mean, he must be devastated in 2 different ways: loosing the wife, and cheated by her,that is so messed up!
You all are so confused imho and unempathic. As its ts the guj who was stalking And harassing her. And even when she was murdered in this horrible way you all mention her as if she deserves IT suiker the killer was a father and husband. There is no comment about his infidelity.. Its disgusting to see so much hatred towards women even when they are slaughtered and abused and are in no way worse than than the Opposites sexe .
@@eabeloth7035 internet comment feelings comment blah comment offended comment PCcomment bluh bub bubble bluh blu
@eabeloth7035 I did not say she deserved it, (tho she brought this upon her) I said I was sorry for the husband 🤔, or you cannot read?
@@roxi_lovesmakeup Some people aren't able to sympathise with men. They are deeply hateful and tend to project, and call others hateful in the process, you're fine. Your comment is perfectly reasonable, the husband certainly lost a lot.
@@eabeloth7035 okay, so because she is a woman we can’t say that it was wrong of her to cheat on her husband and that it was sad for the husband to not only find out that his wife was murdered and that on top of that she was Amos cheating on him? I really dislike it when people do what you are doing. I’m a woman and I feel bad for her husband. We need to be careful with who we get involved with, you never know who you are letting into your life. It is sad she was murdered but just because she is a woman and got murdered does not justify her affair.
Poor kid. Imagine being dragged out of your house half-asleep, cuffed then find out your mother was killed. 😢
Soo sad 😢 I feel so, sorry for the,, young lad. May god’ keep, him safe, and healthy, such a tragedy💯💯💯💯❤️🩹🙏🏽
Kids murder their parents and others nowadays so..
I don't have any respect for law enforcement anymore. I'm happy they remove murderers,rapists,and pedos from the streets. But mostly, they flash and flaunt their badges. And most sign up just to use their weapons.I heard that from an ex police officer. 🖕
... whilst you were asleep upstairs in the house?!? That's the scariest part to me. That kid will need a ton of therapy.
So sad!
I like how you always pay respects to the people and families involved in these stories, it's refreshing
I absolutely agree, that is MOST important!! 👍🏾🤩
It's a big reason I follow this channel
yeah man those "thoughts and prayers" really be changing the world xD 🤡
@@johnandrews9433 🤡
Yeah, that chapter is so disrespectful, even in videos about murdered/abused little children.
Damn, I feel for the husband. She was cheating with 3 guys, gets killed by one AND she might have HIV!?? This is just sad all around.
HIV is not real
I doubt the HIV claim was true. It has never been reported. But that poor husband! She’s cheating with 3 men, and she gets killed? If she’s got 3 men now, how many did she have throughout the marriage?
Yeah unfortunately this kind of massive whores is really frequent. Poor husband and children
I still have a hard time believe she would get with that dude...ew they don't come from any part of the "same cloth" in any walk or part of life. But such is life sometimes if I'm wrong.
I thought they were just in contact with her ??? Didn't realise she was sleeping with them
I love the voices on this channel and how they always pay respect to the loved ones of the victims in a compassionate way.
I said that in one of the first videos I saw of him as well yesterday or earlier this morning lol, idk when I been binging lol. But yeah that’s something I really like and respect that I literally never see any of the other channels I watch that use these people’s stories as a way for them to get views and make money do ever. It is nice to see someone actually say it and all, even if the other channels I’m sure mean it just don’t say it, I never hear any of them say it and it is a nice thing to do for each and every person’s story he follows.
I saw a comment earlier saying this page is a cut above the rest when it comes to these true crime videos.
That respect that he pays to the victims is that one extra cut that puts him above the rest for real!!!
To the narrator of this video, who described this woman so beautifully, well done. To the police, Nancy Grace and everyone else to handled this case, absolutely disgusting. So poorly handled and that 13 year old boy will forever be traumatized. Those were the moments he should have been comforted the most, and instead he was illegally questioned and man handled. So tragic. I pray this family is able to heal and find some peace after this unimaginable event.
Don't believe everything you hear on a made-for-UA-cam video. Lol
@@1w598 you don’t have to believe UA-cam. You can look it up yourself. They were awful
Agree 💯 % May Creator Bless, Guide and Protect this young man! 💜✝️🤍
Nancy grace is horrible!!! She should know better
@@tl214amos4 Yes she certainly should!
How did they think this child put a grown adult in a duffle bag and dragged her all the way to a highway? Disgusting, adding more trauma to this poor boys life. I hope they get sued for gross misconduct.
@Augusto Pinochet that's not the end all, be all. There are limitations which is why people commonly win lawsuits against cops/departments or receive settlements thru the possibility of wrongdoing being found if the suit continued .
I agree , absolute idiots to think a child could do all that and not be seen by the way it's shocking
i agree, but tbf in the photo where they are near the car, the 13 yo kid is quite tall for his age. he is as tall as the police officer who is standing beside him.
What a disgusting woman. What a disgusting woman. Meeting multiple different men in their home, while her children were home. Disgusting. Disgusting.
I don't see any issue with the idea of a 13 year old boy being able to drag approximately 100-120 lbs a few blocks. The police also didn't have the video yet. What they did have was a bloody crime scene downstairs, a trail of blood from the body to that scene and the son being the only person in the house. Kids that age and younger have done as bad. What if he had killed his mom and they ignored him. The police would justifiably be called idiots who should be fired for ignoring evidence and a likely suspect
Love what her son said about his mother. Thank you for the respect you give relating this tragic story. 🙏🏻
I thought it was interesting how the only real mention of the husband was while they were trying to tie him to the murder despite his seemingly airtight alibi. They never clear him or speak of his emotional roller coaster.
Even the innocent need to have a lawyer.
Yeah! I wonder if it was a rocky marriage but he wasn’t the murderer so they decided not to go into it?
@@lisapawlik2510the internet lynch mob also went after the kids cause of their music and appearence.
I can’t believe the teen was in the police station without an adult . If that had happened to my child I’d be suing. He was accused of her murder, that’s how he found out she was dead? Oh my gosh 😢😢😢😢😢😢 The police owe that child an apology!!!! They had him with no shoes ??? I’m sorry but I lose respect for cops daily hearing these horrible things.
[possibly the worst way ever...traumatizing. an apology is the least they owe him-idk what could make that right. Their mother raised 2 wonderful young men]
@@ginaharden2111 It’s so tragic that he had to find out his life was changed now and his dear mum was m…der! Trauma he will be burdened with always. No adult present, no shoes on and handcuffed. I hope the Department compensates this lost young man and an HUGE APOLOGY ….
PUBLICLY !
I mean… ‘GARGANTUAN’, I love 💕 that word!
I pray 🙏 for your boys to make it count how well you did raise them… 🌟🌟🌟🌟
I do not lose respect for cops in general but I do not have respect for the cops who specifically did that to him.....
So sad. 😪
👍👏
y'all would have been the first ones griping about them coddling him if he had murdered her
Accusing a child, treating him brutishly,naming the father and son as persons of interest with no evidence: these cops are thugs themselves.
Accusing the kid = He was the only one at the end/beginning of the blood trail.
Treating brutishly= That is one person's subjective opinion. You nor I was there.
Naming the husband and the other kid as persons of intrest w/o evidence = The tweets were suspect and the husband is ALWAYS the 1st suspect. Futhermore the chick was kinda of a slut. Piss off any dude.
Cops as thugs?? Naah just doing their job. Did pretty well really...got the right guy. 🤷♂️
Blue Line Gang lives matter
That's New York for ya
@samantha8672exactly 💯
Well he was there!! They thought it was him!!! Age means nothing.
The guy who discovered the body and it's source through the blood trail is a true angel. It was definitely his job to unveil everything about the where and what of the crime. The police however had to unveil the how. I am glad this murder was solved and I hope the family heals from this gruesome trauma. Sad her husband and kids had to be put under a spotlight during the time of their grief.
It's very hard to find a huge bag along the sidewalk and the house it came from, if there's a trail of liquid connecting it to that house.
I still havent found fentanyl
I was wondering why he wasn't the prime suspect. And to be fair, I don't think he discovered anything important that wasn't going to be discovered within the next hour anyway.
Funny how they all came for the husband only to be disappointed that it wasn't him. They didn't even apologize! Imagine everybody in town dating your wife and then being accused of her death done by one of her lovers, then finding out she had HIV, and now you have to go test yourself and your kids because their mom might have infected everybody.
Amazing how recent ago this occurred and how well you covered all of the material. Great work, please keep it going!
Now everyother true crime utuber is gonna jump on the band wagon.. It's crazy how they all do this except the exceptional few who earned their spot on here..
Damn, the husband has to deal with all of this BS and he was just doing the best for his family. Can see why he was pissed at the camera man. Wife was murdered by a dude she was cheating with...while he was out their just being a husband supporting the family. Sons have to deal with loss of mom and her cheating on their dad with multiple guys.
I know, right. Cheating not only destroys a marriage, it literally ruins people. Like, if you want attention and/or need to sleep around that bad at 50 yrs old, then just get a divorce for Christ's sake - and get it BEFORE you start ho'ing around - as to save your spouse & kids embarrassment & even more trauma. Kids don't deserve that sh!t. The WORST is when people are ho'ing around and say they're staying married "for the kids". 😅
@@1w598 Why do you assume she was "cheating" you have no idea what her marriage was like. There is such a thing as an open marriage and he could have had girlfriends as well. Who is the ho in that situation? People are so shitty when it comes to women but completely unsurprised when a man is caught outside the marriage bed.
@@1w598 the scarlet whored herself to a suitcase
@@1w598 It's not illegal to cheat and sometimes it helps a relationship to thrive.
@@1w598 💯💯💯
Besides the children, I feel bad for the husband too. Of course in this type of cases a husband will be the first person of interest, but that reporter guy taking pictures of him while treathening to call the police is really irritating, also that old bat Nancy who always acusses the wrong person...
Plus she cheated him with that ugly creepy looking stalker, that probably hurts him the most.
He married a HO lot of things!
@@policestate4879 and????
@@policestate4879 dude/dudette WHY THE HATE? WHY? Does it give you PERVERTED relief? Does your comment give you some other kind of relief like “ mommy” issues? Or, daddy issues? ….. chill ffs
@@2TexasTuff No. its facts. simple
@@BcottStudios Yep you ARE A SIMPLE MINDED. Have a day you deserve…. FACTS. BOOM!
Do you ever hear witnesses describe victims as anything other than ‘happy, loved life, sweet, caring’?
This victim was anything but that, otherwise she wouldn't have slept around.
@@amybugarski2668tbh agree. this is obviously sad, but if she hadn’t betrayed her husband, this would not have happened. 🤷🏽♀️
Or my favorite, "they were full of life" or "loved life" lol. Like oh too bad they killed this wonderful person instead of some loser who didn't love life. But then yeah you find out they're deeply flawed and were f'ing around before they found out.
He left out wh@rish
That statement her teen son makes at the end of the video was way beyond his years. ♥
I was really struck by his maturity too.
Ikr. She made a good job with her sons. Great kids, they didn't deserve this. Részvétem a családnak. 😞
I feel so so sad for what her family has been through and is going through for sooo many reasons.
It's not enough that your mom and your wife are brutally murdered...you also have to find out that she isn't who you thought she was. My heart breaks for them. God be with this family...
ASMIRA : So much agree. She lived a double life. It all will come out sooner or later, and never underestimate the actions of other that you fooled around with.
Agree! The family she LEFT behind suffers the collateral damage. Selfish nasty piece of work. She should still be alive had she NOT lived in promiscuity.
I think it's kind of inevitable when you have married a barbie..... she is going to find crazies who will do ANYTHING for her I mean appreciate her beauty despite being a married woman
I dated a really hot chick a few years back I couldn't believe how much her ex boyfriends were still trying to get in touch with her or still in love with her lol
life is nt as easy as it seems for hot people
Out of many murder and crime shows on UA-cam, yours rate higher than most. They are really well produced, video-taped, narrated, etc. I also really like that the crime is solved instead of ending with out a definite conviction and sentence. Your series is very watchable, suspenseful good entertainment.😉
He really is a cut above the rest!
So glad to discover that this narrator is a real person. Love your voice Jason Forbis. You're the reason I subscribe to this channel rather than the myriad others.
It's anti-Semitic to watch programs outside the mainstream media.
I feel sorry the most for her husband he lived with a cheating wife ending in her shocking murder & pepole harassing him accusing him for her murderer especially Nancy drew who likes to play a detective on her show moving the media against a man who proved innocent and on top his wife infidelity exposed to the whole world, he have to live with all that, my sympathy for the husband and kids
Same I feel sorry for the husband and kids
Nancy is a prosecutor, so it’s in her nature to play detective.
And the poor doggy 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@Seashellsbytheseashore21 if she is a prosecutor than it is in her profession, not in her nature. Now Nancy is not a prosecutor, she's just a televised opinion maker.
@@graciehernandez1364 i don't know what to the doggie
Firstly-Nancy Grace, uggggh! OK got that out of my system. Though I understand the police tend to take an interest in spouses as a suspect in murder cases, but to drag a 13 year old out like some seasoned felon and treat him so shockingly is completely inexcusable. Though it’s a terrible thing, Orsolya’s murder, to not only to be treated as the murderer of your wife who you then discover was being unfaithful for so many years must have sent him into an emotional spin and a half. So his wife dies, and she is not who he believed her to be. His son is manhandled and intimidated. He’s being held responsible. I wish him and his son the best, hopefully somehow they can keep some type of sanity to get through life.
Fear files actually has a great presentation. Unlike other channels, I like how this channel only has a narrator that doesn't show their face. Nothing is wrong with that, but i don't like that style. Also, showing pictures/videos of what ever that is relevant to the case is what sepperates this channel's presentation apart from others. I applaud.
That Chapter?
The Crime Reel and Brief Case are two other channels. Enjoy
Interesting - I find presentations where the narrator becomes a focal point or personality distasteful. Good thing youtube has a good variety to choose from!
@@jessosiyoway if the presenter is likeable but also heartfelt while discussing a tragic situation... I find it easier to digest the information. Like Mike from that chapter. But a good narrator is awesome also. I can dig both ways of doing it as long as it is done tasteful and respectful to the victim and family.
@@desmondmaldonado6466 Sprawls his face all over the place... and makes some seriously corny jokes, too.
I had almost forgotten that Nancy Grace exists. Thanks a lot for the reminder... ☹️
Jeeze! It's almost like the police wanted the murderer to be a family member. That poor kid. And her husband being hounded by the press. The police were terrible on this one.
In their defense, 99.9% of the time, it is a family member.
@@DJVIIIMan your point? it doesnt hurt the media to wait until they know forsure, and dragging a 13 year old out the house and treating him with no dignity is fucked up. it’s not hard to be a lil compassionate.
@Chris Shaffer yes but sending reporters to people houses and harassing them, juss because they might be a suspect and ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE FAMILY is fucked up. the guy wasn’t even in the same state bruh. that doesn’t resolve him but it don’t make sense why the media would demonize him so early on. what planet do you live on?
@@sxlrac_barlos3392 the problem is,it might well have been the son,or the husband.I’m so glad it wasn’t.But it happens so many times,they have to treat them as suspects.Sad,but true.
God, that poor 13-year-old kid getting hauled down to be interviewed like that, only to find out that his mother had died on top of it!
1. Cops are usually the ones that give bad news sooooo why would that be out of the ordinary
2. They detained his father and his son was a suspect, were they suppose to leave him at the house.
3. Finding the murderer is the MAIN GOAL.
I'll leave this so you have a better grasp of the law.
Children under the age of 18 are subjected to the same conditions as adults with regard to pre-arraignment detention. In New York State, this may mean up to or exceeding 24 hours in custody subjected to interrogation, potentially without a parent or guardian present.
@@felixfungle-bung4688 Thanks for commenting/replying one month later, when I have no recollection of this video. Next time chime in sooner, sonny boy, if you're looking for a meeting of the minds.
@@loveforeignaccents internet is forever, so buckle up... the message really isn't for you, it's for the ignorant folks who will read your message.
And that she was murdered just floors below you and the killer could have easily decided to kill you and your brother too. Thank God the husband didn't call the police. The murderer thankfully just went after the person who scorned him.
What a way to find out your mother passed! Jesus I'm so sorry to her son!
What a way to get your throat cut by a trashbag atleast could have worried about her kids before going on the streets
That poor kid. I really feel for him. And what he went through. I cant imagine losing my Mother. And I’m a grown adult. But to murder? I cant begin to imagine that pain. On top of that, to be accused of her murder? That’s pain no one should feel.
Nancy Grace has exhausted her 15 minutes of fame…a thousand times over. I can’t believe she’s legally allowed to be on tv still, the way she throws accusations around like some gossiping ninny.
I couldnt of said it better myself. In the US their all about sueing each other. I wonder what stops her getting sued for the rubbish she talks on tv.
Nancy Grace, queen of the $h!t stirrers.
I thought she "cancelled" herself for something she said a few years back.
Most gagged on her when she was pregnant with the twins. Everyone was if I here her mouth one more time. I never mention her name, she a ton of people sick of her, yes she is super rude and a finger pointer. I'm sure she has always been critical of everyone. Imagine living with her 🤯
When she had her show on regular TV years ago... I used to joke that she was keeping all the missing people she would report on tied up in her basement to keep her show filled with victims. The number of times she has been wrong about cases like this one... or pounded others to suicide or madness is obscene. She needs to put a cork in that pie hole. Early on she was a guilty pleasure now she is just a harpy and a bore!
I cannot imagine the trauma Leo suffered that day. Imagine waking up and suddenly you’re arrested under suspicion of murdering your mom, and then you’re trying to even grapple what’s going on and that your mom died, and you’re being interrogated alone…. I literally cannot imagine what that was like for him. I understand they would of course need to question him and that he may have been a suspect immediately, but it was handled SO wrong
People who commit adultery deserve to die be it a man or a woman. She slept with multiple men. Her husband got justice
@@akshay9602 if I feed you,troll, will you go away? 🍎🍟🍔🧃
The children 😞 as a mother I wish I could hug them , just so sad , the courage of the son at the end paying tribute to his mother’s memory ♥️ , heart breaking !! I wish the sons and father a happy life and a beautiful future a head ♥️✨✨✨✨✨
Such words of grace from the oldest son in remembrance of his mother 🕊❣️🕊
FF, YOU GUYS ARE CONSISTENTLY PUTTING OUT TOP NOTCH MATERIAL HERE, THANK YOU!!! 👍🏾😘👏🏾
The person I think needs to have charges brought against is the misdirected, big mouthed, egotistical television announcer who acted as though she was a real detective and falsely accused this poor husband who had already suffered heart break from his unfaithful wife only to be slandered by the uncaring, front page grabbing television announcer. SHAME ON YOU!
I agree
They call her nasty grace , I think that's a fitting name
I love listening to his videos. "You never know what is lurking in the shadows". Thank you. 🥰
I know right like HIV
She was unfaithful and it cost her.Her husband gave her a great life,she betrayed him.. so shit happens.Sorry for the kids and her husbands grief.
i feel sorry for the husband, first losing your wife, then finding out she was cheating for 2 years.....poor guy
A woman's life was cut short but a man's ego is what matters the most?
@@beatricehart5614 keep you legs and mouth shut sweetheart. . . 😆
@@beatricehart5614 Fr
Yeah, he shouldn't get any sympathy. His wife was murdered then later finds out she was unfaithful. His son was traumatized by the cops. He should get over it, right?
I feel sorry for the murdered person.
It should be known by now that whatever Nancy Grace thinks, it’s always the complete opposite 🙄
I can’t stand Nancy Grace ..
@@molliwilson5639 she’s a bad SNL character except she’s real which makes her existence pretty much criminal
Yes! Completely agree. She’s wrong all the time.
If those medieval angry crowds that burned witches at the stakes was a single person, it would be Nancy Grace. She needs to chill.
Yeah....can't stand her.
I can’t wait for this one I have been following this case and it’s really horrific how people are pointing fingers to the husband of the victim but later turned something else
it was you.
you're the culprit 🤔
I'm kidding
I'm reading your comment at the beginning of the video.. Thinking plz don't tell me, I haven't watched it yet 😂.
Sunday dumaka- people are always, quick to judge, you see. Such a’ tragedy!!! Can, I say, beautiful 😻 little girl u have, on the photo,,, sweetie. Stay safe guys.
Seriously! If it was up to those people he would’ve been executed already lol
you do realize they ALWAYS go for the spouse/partner of the victim as suspects before anyone else.... like chill they obviously found the correct guy.
Idk if I should feel bad for the wife's death or disappointed and ashamed of her infidelity. Either way the husband went through the worst. Hope they apologized. A prayer to him hope he heals
Thank you for this narrator. He's the best. Love your channel!
God, I would hate to be the victim and/or any of her family members, but I would also hate to be Glen, the man that found her. Glad you guys found a recent case; haven't heard of this one yet.
This is a sad situation no matter how you slice and dice it. Mother loses her life, kids loses their mother, husband loses his ‘unfaithful’ wife and has to live with the humiliation of it all. 🤦🏽♀️
So very true. As a married person you not only betray your partner, but the kids as well. This murder would have never happened without her being unfaithful.
Ah the incels are here too
@@LiquidShivaz and also the strumpet to immediately attack anyone mentioning anything about her cheating. No one is saying she deserved what she got, these are very much facts of the case. That's why it was mentioned in the video.
@@fredajordan5704 Don't be ridiculous! She was unfaithful, not a first not last either and it's not a crime. She shouldn't have been murdered for it!! Are you serious? We don't know anything about these people's married life. He could've been unfaithful too, we don't know anything. Stop with a victim blaming!
@@mireiification if she wasn't cheating she wouldn't be in this situation...no she shouldn't have been murdered..bitches really hate accountability
That’s one costly affair ? She surely did not deserve to be murdered over the indiscretion. I feel very badly for her husband and children especially the 13 year old boy who was interrogated by incompetent police. What a horrific tragedy all the way around.
What she did put herself at risk no different than driving while drunk
This was a great episode. I have been following this case from the UK. I'm sad to say but I initially thought her husband had something to do with it. Imagine loving your wife, having children, providing a rich lifestyle and you find your wide murdered then find out she had multiple lovers on the side
Rob congratulations 🎊 on coming out trans.
@Rob W Right?! The day this hit the news I facetiously commented on the news video about “it probably being her side piece that did it” with no knowledge of the situation and got absolutely hated for it. Turned out that is exactly what happened. It Usually is for the bored house wives of wealthy-ish husbands who provide everything a wife could want……
@@skallywag2455 - I don't talk to rude twatts.
@@RizztrainingOrder I agree with you. People got angry with me when I said this would likely not have happened had she not been cheating on her husband. I thought she had one lover, I did not know she had multiple men on the go, so she did not feel too bad about betraying her husband . She was looking for a replacement lover when she was murdered. I feel sad for the children, her family, and most of all her husband. Sounds like she was staying in the marriage for the kids and the cold hard cash.
@@Deez80085 Well everybody is originally from somewhere else, except for the indigenous. America even decided to break away, and gain independence from England.
I think I’ve been watching too many of these videos. Now, I’m scared shitless of everybody.
Thank you so much for the detailed coverage and respect you show to the victims and their families. Can you please cover the case of Jawaher Heji. Not a lot of people are talking about it and something seems fishy and unfair about the whole case, and her mom is seriously heartbroken since she's trying to get the authorities to take her case seriously but keeps getting ignored or treated badly for an unknown reason. Thank you for all that you do.
I remember when this came out. Everyone on FB blamed the husband and swore it was him and how he was probably cheating and he was a pod. And then when they figured out it was instead the wife, they said oh we shouldn’t judge. Man dragged through the mud and the woman gets a pass every time.
And all along it was an illegal alien.
Imagine being handcuffed at age 13 not knowing what's going on and then finding out that your mom is murdered because they're accusing you of doing it. I would be devastated. This poor boy do they really think that this 13 year old stuffed his dead weight mother into a double bag and dragged her across town? These officers should be ashamed
Yeah seriosuly not only that but it was the 13 year old boys own hockey bag as well.
The fact the investigators didnt notice a freaking mile long blood trail n had to be alerted AFTER they been out there just shows n says a lot 🤦♀️
The way they treated the 13 year old son is quite disturbing. Poor child.
I work across the street from where her body was found. This just 🤯
I feel for the kids and husband.
Nothing rips your heart out like a cheating partner and then this on top of it...
Not sure how those 3 males will ever find any sort of normality ...
Showing all this blood lis not necessary.
I love this narrator voice. ....
Does anyone know what happened to the twisted minds channel?
It's shocking how other's can make assumptions about innocent people (the husband) and harass them, with NO consequences for their action's.
Not all families are involved in such horrific situation's.
It's so sad. 💔
I’m sorry but people interested in “true crime” do this all the time. They stalk and harass victims and their friends and family. They accuse innocent people. Look at how people acted when those college kids were killed in Idaho.. so many innocent people accused and harassed.
Surprised you didn’t mention Forest Hill’s biggest claim to fame, birthplace of The Ramones!
That explains it 🤣
I live only 20 minutes away from forest hills. I remember when this story came out. Usually very quiet and family environment ...very shocking and chilling crime. R.i.p
Poor Leo. I’m so sorry that this happen to him and that is how he found out about the death of his mother.
"Poor Leo"???🤔
Her poor husband had to find out that his wife was a H0€😏😏
21:27 "and a child's understanding of dating" just cracked me up so much. You're savage lol.
Your videos get better and better. Love this channel 😁😁😁
Agreed. Compared with others of this genre, Fear Files are the real deal quality vids.
I love your channel. You always have obscure stories unlike my former favorite channels that seem to tell overly reported stories, with very predictable endings. Thanks for digging deep for your channel
It is absolutely terrifying and traumatic that that poor boy had to learn about the horrible way his mom passed away in the way that he did.
I lost my dad as a 9 year old and that was horrible enough to be told about it from my own mom.
I cannot imagine how much pain he, his dad, brother and the rest of their family is going through.
Also, it's one thing to have an affair, but it's another thing to be murdered. She WAS wrong to be cheating on her husband - but so many people sadly do it every day, for years.
I don't have much empathy for people who choose to have affairs, but I do have empathy for her and her family because she did NOT deserve to be murdered so ruthlessly and left there with no care.
Those boys didn't have a chance to say goodbye to their mom, and the choice they would've had to forgive her for her wrongdoings was taken away from them and put on public display for everyone to make assumptions about her. That's got to be difficult.
I completely agree that it is an instance of genuine victim shaming.
And ppl ignore the fact that all the killer did was study how to emotionally manipulate women and that she actually ended the relationship. He was so persistent, it’s nonsense to blame her like that
Seriously disturbing to see people use her affair to justify her murder... If you cheat on your partner, you deserve being dumped/broken up with/ divorced etc. You do not deserve to be fucking savagely murdered and stuffed into a goddamn duffel bag and thrown into the street like garbage. wtf is wrong with people
@@ScratchthechalkBoard
True.
However, he was only one of many affairs which was a motive for his murdering her.
Sorry, but her actions not only caused her death, it's sentenced her children to a lifetime of indescribable pain, anguish and heartache as well.
She did NOT deserve to be murdered, period.
@@ScratchthechalkBoard the 4
@@Nostalgic_1 he claimed she was seeing another man. HE claimed she was seeing another man. He also considered her to be cheating when she was married which is a peek into his perception of things..
Orsolya had a great looking family and living nicely, no need to walk alone to a bar past midnight then walk back home. She’s 50 yo and had NO business getting involved with other men, this is a reckless, hi risk and immoral behavior !
Yes, but not a death sentence.
@@Tabiannax84x
Heavens NO, it’s never justified; however, she lived in a 2-4$ million dollar house, the last guy to finish her off was practically homeless. They were as incompatible as oil in water, she was twice his age, married, has a family and a wonderful life. The girls called the police twice coz they were scared of him.
@katieszarkowicz7254
An inebriated woman alone walking alone past mid nite is a terrible decision, piss poor judgement. What does this have to do w. the bible
Absolutely disgusting how they treated her 13yr old son! Poor kid just lost his mum & they drag him around in handcuffs.
I know! They could’ve easily taken him without the handcuffs jeez
The police department were horrible 😩how do you interrogate a minor?
Because they're police. They don't care if they even have the right guy, they just want a confession so they don't have to do any more work.
Happens all the time. Central Park 5 ring a bell?
Lots of teenagers have murdered their parents though
@@minilea144 doesn’t matter wtf is the point of police if they themselves can’t even follow the law
Uh, well, the adult in his life was dead and the other adult was out of state. He’s on the site with a bloody body . That’s how you interrogate a minor. Statistics show that murdered people are related to the murderer. Any other questions, Nancy Drew?
Rest in peace Orsolya.
Sincere sympathy to her sons and her husband.
Nobody has the right to murder another human being.
Ya think? Nobody has the right. That pretty much goes without saying. That's why it's against the law.
Does that include murdering innocent babies in the womb? Or do they not count?
@@TheVeek192 Point taken. Sorry for stating the obvious.
@@lauraswann5543 dont apologize - there was nothing wrong with your comment. Commenter above was being an ass.
The key is not everyone is human but If you are , it is detrimental not to mingle with animalistic energies! If people only new that having a human body does not make one human!
Your videos are very well done. Thank you for all the time and research you must put in to produce them.
Orsolya is pronounced "Orshoya" and it is the formal version of the name. The informal version is Orsi (Orshee). May she rest in peace...
Nice documentary, keep up the good work!
Wow! Thank you for filling us in! There’s a big difference between the spelling and the target words! How is it that the “l” is not pronounced? I haven’t watched the whole documentary still, but would you mind telling me where is she from, so I can check the pronunciation system of their language! Thanks again! 💗
@@issafula So in hungarian language we have more letters in the alphabet than in english. We have two "y", one is "j" and the other one is "ly". Both are pronounced as y. Don't ask me what the point is though... We just have to learn as kids which word has got j in it like "papagáj" (parrot) and which has ly in it like "folyó" (river). Also the english "s" is "sz" in hungarian. We also have "zs" which is a softer version of the sound "sh". Please don't get me started on "ty", "gy" 'cause we have those too.😂 Apparently hungarian is one of the hardest languages to learn for an english speaker. Grammar is totally different too. Beautiful language though!
@@Essie-Cakes She said “don’t get me started with…” 🤣🤣🤣. It’s beautiful though and very much interesting. I studied Estonian for my thesis and I love every bit of it. It was interesting and different. Estonian was not as difficult though. I’d like to know how it work with Hungarian. I saw their spelling and omg haha it definitely looks difficult. However, if I ever had the chance to study Hungarian I would have too. I actually went there in 2016. Very beautiful country 💗. Thank you, Ester 🤍 (I am Spanish btw)
Bye
@@issafula Spanish?? My most favourite people! I had the luck to work with spanish nationals and they all were like a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. Always happy and cheerful and kind. ♥️
What a horrible way to find out your mom has passed away and was murdered to boot. My heart goes out to her family and son.
Rip
Amazing job with covering this case! All of your content is great. And the time put into research, and getting the details, really shine in this one. It is very sad, and such a tragedy. My heart breaks for her sons, husband, and family.
No matter her relationships with other men, Orsolya raised good kids. The older son speaking at his moms funeral showed a lot of courage and wisdom.
Orsoyla most certainly didn't deserve to die, but I think a lot of the critical talk surrounding her is moreso a reminder for each and every person to be cautious and aware of the people you surround yourself with. That being said, even if Orsolya had been divorced and just dating these men, considering the dark and twisted nature of her killer, he probably would have killed her or someone else at some point anyway.
I disagree. She deserved it.
She should've divorced first, regardless.
The name of the theme song is “Credulous Gal” by Anzem. I know I was searching for it for a long time and finally had to email Fear Files to get the title/artist name. I told them I’d pass on the information for them, one more thing that they don’t really have time to do. It’s a royalty free song, so anyone can use it, so long as they credit the artist.
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But they DON'T credit the artist. You had to dig for it.
uhmmm... its in their description box for the longest time 😂
Blaming the victim for getting murdered is absolutely insane! Nobody has the right to take a life. Only in self defense
of course no one has the right however it still can happen . ACCOUNTABILITY is not victim blaming . better choices need to be made
It's not illegal to cheat and sometimes it helps a relationship to thrive.
@@swallowedinthesea11 are u kidding?
@@swallowedinthesea11 Just because it worked for your parents, doesn‘t mean it‘s a general rule...
So if you walk up to someone who is stabbing another person to death in an alley, and try to stop them, then they turn around and stab you to death... does that make you a victim? Sure. Does that make you partially responsible for your own demise? Absolutely.
How about this one.. If you murder someone and the state decides to give you the death penalty, does that make you a victim? Yes, you're a victim of the state. Does that make you accountable for your own death? ABSOLUTELY.
Point is, people can be victims, and accountable for their own death at the same time. This woman spent all this time cheating on her husband with MULTIPLE men over several years, and took way too many risks. Did she deserve death? No way. Did she contribute to her own death? Definitely!
It’s always hard to feel much empathy for an adulterer. If you mess around with someone willing to sleep with someone else’s spouse (ie a home wrecker), know that you are sleeping with a very disturbed individual
Be quiet!
@@victoriadime9057 why should they. are you triggered coz you an adulterer yourself.
Anyone know if Nancy Grace recanted her "social commentary" against the husband? I feel for the guy who would have been hounded in spite of his innocence. Several thousand kms in distance is a little hard to argue for him being a culprit...
*_I cannot stand Nancy Grace!_** She speculates and makes unfounded claims, and just rolls right along without ever saying she might be wrong, or apologizing when her statements prove erroneous! That's the one thing I wanted to comment on and I'm glad someone else noticed it too. She's a menace and needs to be stopped!*
Probably not, she caused 2 women to commit suicide and never apologized for that so I doubt it on this case.
@@babyface45 She did? Have you got a link?
@@pphedup let me look.
@@pphedup ua-cam.com/video/LETFueavI9A/v-deo.html
Such a sad story. I pray for the family to find peace✝️
This is truly horrible, shocking and traumatic for her sons and husband, I really feel for them. Even though Orsolya had extra-marital affairs she did not deserve to be killed. What she saw in that ugly lowlife beats me. She seemed to have it all; handsome husband, lovely boys, nice home and all thrown away for a worthless fling /affair which sadly resulted in her own horrific death and the lifelong trauma of her immediate family.
She didn’t deserve to die by no means but yes Had she been faithful to her Husband like she should of been she would still be here alive with her kids.
@ *DRTBKE* I completely agree, Nick Crowley really touches on some dark stuff too, especially 'UA-cams Most Disturbing Channels' series.
Especially the episode about that convicted Ped who was making terrifying uploads (sorry I'm writing this here but I couldn't respond on the Live Chat mmy friend lol).
Was gonna subscribe to your channel but couldn't find it! It's a real pleasure! Love the Fear Files family! You're all *AWESOME* and of course, THANK YOU for another fantastic upload as always!!!!! Beautiful watching quality rise to the top!!!
Stay safe family and blessed be
Forest Hills is a beautiful neighborhood. In fact it’s much more interesting than the stock footage used at the beginning of the video. Sad story, condolences to the family.
I feel so badly that her youngest son was handcuffed and learned of his mothers murder in such a horrific way. That’s just plain cruel.
Oh shut up
She was licentious and unfaithful. Her selfish recklessness left two children without a mother and a grieving husband to pick up the shattered pieces.
Are you victim blaming? She can't tell her side of the situation. She was brutally murdered; she was taken away from her children. He is 100% responsible for his actions; someone ending a relationship is not a reason to kill them ever.
Shouldn't have cheated then 😂 @@PamMinnick
@@PamMinnick Victim blaming what a stupid term like racist. Just made to stop the truth from being known.
@@PamMinnickI’m victim blaming. What of it?
@tomcampbell8934 noone cares about you
don't suppose Nancy Grace apologised to the family for her unfounded accusations
Imagine being a child drug out of your house by police half asleep and cuffed being accused of murdering your own mother. That poor family R.I.P Orsolya
Yeah, "R.I.P." but just forget about the husband 🙄... you people are delusional.
I hope the sons farther went after the police that cuffed and interrogated his 13-year-old son accusing him of killing his mother. How could a 13-year-old use up the energy it takes two stab someone over 50 times and then have the strength to put her in a duffle bag and drag her what looked like miles and miles from the little map that they showed at the beginning of the video and then walk back home get rid of any evidence that he would have had on him bloody clothes bloody shoes so obviously they didn't look around for any bloody clothes in the trash cans or look to see if the shower or bathtubs had been used hell didn't even look to see if he could have cleaned up outside. Every single person that had anything to do with taking that child to the police station and interviewing him should be fired.
well look at the young 14 year old boy who lured a young girl to the woods with him Amd Stabbed her 100 times!! BUT IN THIS CASE...IT WASNT THE KIDS
It's not uncommon as.they put my 16 yr old daughter in a cell at the station when she was.with me and I was pulled over for a ticket I'd not gone.to.court on. The superior finally saw her and told them to take her out of the cell. Idiots. Cops are not the best and brightest let me tell u.
That was a beautiful message from her son 🙏🏾❤️
So terribly sad for her son's, and poor husband. I wonder if he even knew that his wife was going out on him!!