@@filmretrospective63 : C'est vraiment dommage, tout ce documentaire est complètement raté à cause de la voix de pédé du commentateur et surtout à cause de son accent anglais stupidement exagéré. Il faut le tuer ! * It's a real shame, this whole documentary is a complete failure because of the commentator's queer voice and especially because of his stupidly exaggerated English accent. We must kill him !
Walking home from 3rd grade after school I found the Neil Young Harvest album in someones curb trash pickup . Went home an told my mom what I found . Mom was completely blind but told me to put it on the console stereo turntable . The record was badly scratched but we didnt care , we played it over an over . Christmas that year santa left me that album under the tree , thanks santa lol . That was 50 yrs. ago . Great memory , thanks mom . RIP
Harvest was also my entry in to their world. My older brother had bought the album. He would rarely let me touch his stuff, so I would ask him play it...😅
you're only getting the worst and ugliest aspects (to the extent this creator does his research and is even accurate). It's the entire theme of the channel. What makes it particularly special is the voice of the guy. It is like the accent of depression itself.
Thanks to guys like Earle Bailey, you hear quite a bit of Manassas on Sirius/XM's Deep Tracks.... Dude always plays great stuff, since his days on WMMR in Philly. 🚬😎👍
Great film, please do the follow up. Complicated man is Neil Young. I saw him at Hammersmith, it was epic, he played an hour of solo acoustic, then two hours of electric with the band, an incredible night.
Somebody else suggested this, but I think it's worth repeating. In his heart Neil is a soloist first, who uses bands when they suit his purposes. Stephen is a collaborator with extraordinary technical chops. He seems to relish working with others and doing whatever is needed, whether it's taking charge or filling gaps.
Well, 7 days since your posting,I feel fortunate to have this show up on my YT feed. I really appreciate your presentation of this music history. Whenever you have a group of people working together,people are going to bang heads. Friends,family,the job,etc. At best it will eventually disintegrate to a status quo, so as to maintain some level of function,as necessary. Water seeks it own level. Just human nature,as I see it. Talented,unique individuals,in unique situations,at a moment in time. The ebb and flow,and the beauty created,if but for a moment... Think of The Beatles,The Kinks,Cream,CSNY,Grand Funk Railroad,Greg Allman/Dickey Betts,... How many times did Janis Joplin,Jimi Hendrix,Bob Dylan,Joni Mitchell,Miles Davis, and Neil Young,switch gears,and follow their vision? Why continue with a situation,that is untenable? Or boring? The list goes on,and on,and on,does it not? We all "gotta do,what we gotta do". They all touched our lives,forever...? I'm a big Neil Young fan,and enjoy playing many of his acoustic tunes. Although I don't/can't play a single tune,from either of these albums- On The Beach,and Tonight's the Night. They are by far, my favorite Neil Young albums. Spontaneity,and undeniable heartfelt energy,at it's best. The Real Deal Cheers!
Odd I always thought that "tonight's the night" is one of his best efforts. I really like Neil Young's music and have many of his recordings "Tonight's the night" is probably my favorite.
Neil is amazing CSN amazing all 4 was magic. saw them all together and separate over 40 years, Good documentary its hard to capture the vibe in the early seventies, the timing of there music and social issues couldn't have been more perfect. stills young was great
Considering all the turmoil going on between band members, it’s pretty amazing CSNY were able to launch two quality albums, and only one of them a studio release. No wonder Deja Vu became such a legendary piece. I think it’s impressive when a group can set aside their differences to put out timeless, memorable music.
"Impressive" to "set aside their differences"? Isn't that something every group has to do to be successful? And every marriage partner? Every set of friends? That's the norm. Doing what you are supposed to do anyway is not my definition of impressive. And wow, they released two entire albums? And one of them studio? Not my idea of "pretty amazing".
I concur, and they set the genre and got out there and did it with no handbook, no support, with no real idea of consequences or much technical expertise, at a time when there was zilch in terms of recovery from narcotic addiction and alcoholism and at a dnagerous time of social unrest, when the drugs were 100% pure, the judgement around the perosnal clashes of the band members are neither here nor there, plenty of other bands and musicians were like it around the same time, and punk made a point of it later on in the 70s.
@@kvernon1 I read a quote from Graham Nash calling CSN [and maybe CSNY] failures. Because they couldn't get along well enough to make more than a few good recordings. I don't remember if he attributed this to ego and substance abuse :^) He seems to have been a very patient person.
Neil certainly added something special to CSNY. I have a vivid, lifelong memory of a particular Neil song that was included in the sound track of the movie, "The Strawberry Statement", which was about the student protests at Columbia University. I think it was back in '71. Somewhere In the movie, after some scenes of action and conflict, the visual goes to a night scene of the sky, with Neil's voice lamenting: "Big birds flying across the sky, throwing shadows on our eyes, leave us helpless, helpless, helpless, helpless." Neil certainly was not helpless, but he surely helped us, at that cinematic moment, to express our frustration in trying to end the war in Vietnam.
Love the music all of these extremely talented musicians made. Its unfortunate that they couldn't hold it together. They all made some of my favorite music.
I was at that Boston show. Neil was also pissed at some bubblehead screaming, ‘Neil.., your bogus!’ Neil responded, Someone slap that guy before I do!” This huge guy told the bubblehead, Knock it off. Then Neil rocked the night. Saw him so many times with great stories and memories. Love sent
I was around 12 or 13 in around 1974. I was an only child but my friends all had older siblings. When my babysitter, Jeannie, brought over the 45 Hello Goodbye/I am the Walrus by the Beatles, I was mesmerized. This was 1968 and I was 7. After that exposure, I was on a quest to find more of that kind of music. A friend’s brother had CSN’s debut album released in ‘69. We listened to it over and over and I decided that they were the coolest band ever, Deja Vu was even better. Their story is one of great highs and lows. Regardless of their personal struggles and creative differences, they were special, very special. They influenced me in a good way. Thanks for the great doc. ✌🏻
Oh, man same here! My wife and I have used it many times on a couple of different cats we've had. They don't mean to be annoying, destructive, whatever...they just can't help themselves.
I love that line from "Tired Eyes", hysterical! Neil certainly is a one off original. My favorite artist of all time, but it's quite obvious that he was not "easy" to work with!
I have fond memories of Old Man. "Old man, look at my life, I'm a lot like you were". Reminds me of my dad, who passed 12 years ago. Dad was an old fashion, classic music (Opera etcetera) kind of Guy, but he really liked CSNY and aspecially NY. R.I.P. dad. (Gone, but not forgotten).
I understand why, but I'm usually disappointed when music documentaries don't feature the music of the artists they profile due to copyright, but I didn't miss it at all with this one. Well told and engaging. Keep it up!
wait a second, you said Neil is a nightmare of a human being, what about all the benefit concerts Neil did for disabled children, farmers, environmental issues, humanitarian issues, etc..........making millions of $$$$$$$$ for these organizations.
Yes Buffalo Springfield had a lot of drama but they were so much more than that. Their albums are now recognized as classics and they did include tiimeless singles that everybody has heard including For What It's Worth, Mr Soul and Bluebird.
Saw Neil and Crazy Horse at The Rosemount Horizon outside Chicago over 30 years ago with my wife. Opening show for the Weld Tour. Sonic youth opened and blew everyone's ears out.
Stills' historic "Something happening here. . ." is recalled in page 248 of my novel, King of Soul, recalling events at Kent State U, May 1970, a classic moment of American tragedy.
Yes, I understand that. But I believe Stephen Stills himself will attest that the message in his song about protest had become an anthem for our generation, especially after their "Ohio" song. "Four dead in Ohio"@@JJS1953JJS
I was fortunate enough to see Neil Young and Crazy Horse in the late 70’s. First half of the show was Neil playing acoustic, Crazy Horse with Neil playing electric guitar the second half. Huge blow up amps, cone heads, hooded monks with red eyes…it was a great show.
My college girlfriend and I were walking on that beach when they were taking photos of Neil facing the water. My girlfriend walked up to him and asked if he lost something. I was shocked at her balls. I had been around Neil before, but this was pretty weird as nothing moved for hours.
Great presentation! This was informative, in-depth, and really a joy to watch. Born in 63 I do remember some of these events. The detail and photos along with the time line was just terrific. Lot's of info I knew nothing about! Subbed! Keep up the good work! Best wishes😌
I thought the same thing, and it's so obvious I'm sure it was suggested. I could see Stills saying, "man, I don't want people to think I play left-handed" :)
I was in a thrift store in Los Angeles around 2015 and found "4 Way Street" on wax for a few dollars and bought it only because Neil was on it. His originals on there are so tasty. Plus Im from Ohio. So you cant ignore the live version of "Ohio" on that record.
@@derhandtrommler yea true you have a point, but they all inspired many sounds such as the eagles; the eagles stole their bassist twice haha. It doesn’t matter where you are from, you can still inspire a sound in a certain dynamic. All artists eventually move to LA and try to make it big there, then a sound get constructed as “the California sound” even if they aren’t from there
Stills’ performance of “4x20” on Dick Cavett is mesmerizing. Whenever I watch it I always look at Joni Mitchell. She’s so into it, it’s like she’s in a trance.
You too. This channel is SO good. If you love music and learning about the people behind the classic - you're in the right place. To use 60s slang it's Groovy! David
In the liner notes for Neil's "Decade" compilation album many, many years ago, he wrote that the LP Harvest "put him in the middle of the road. I soon headed for the ditch. The ride was rough but I met more interesting people there."
I'm familiar with that quote, as I have "Decade" and have read the liner notes. Based upon things I've read about Neil, it's not surprising that that quote is somewhat contradictory. When he was with Springfield, he seemed to be distraught that they didn't achieve commercial success, but when he does with Harvest, he seems "dismissive" of it. I guess it's just typical of young people and "artists", especially. Most of them are egomaniacs, which is why it's so rare they can get along with bandmates.
I saw CSN&Y in houston. Nash said Neil missed the fisrt couple of numbers. Because he was throwing a tantrum . He said it to the audience in attendance.
Producers were like, you wouldn’t happen to know anyone that’s your type with half the talent, goofier, not losing their hair, and has straight teeth.. ?🤞😬 Steven: “I do actually”
That's sad- but hysterical (!) Maybe both are true, I read he decided he wasn't into it and suggested York. But he wasn't destined to be a Monkee. Jimi Hendrix was brought on tour to open for them! Can you imagine? Those teeny boopers were unprepared for that!
That's definitely what Graham Nash believed, at least when the idea was pitched to him that Neil should join. He talks about how against the idea he was, in his autobiography.
I dunno. Neil might have balked upon listening to how horrendously out-of-tune was the guitar that Stephen was forced to play-seconds before they went on.
you left out "wind on the water", a masterpiece I saw performed. " tonight's the night" was a junkie's lament, we loved it. "long may you run" was stills solo performed (with flo and eddie) doing harmonies simultaneously crosby nash doing " wind on the water" with the help of many artists up the road in anaheim. crosby claimed lebanese (hash) for his inability to sing. I saw both concerts. neil did briefly appear with stephen doing songs but that was long ago.
What! George Harrison didn't care for Neil Young's music? I find it very hard to believe I know I read somewhere John Lennon didn't care for Neil Young's music and that I do believe well whether or not George Harrison cared for Neil Young's music or not George Harrison is still my favorite Beatle I love Crosby stills Nash & Young and I like the solo careers been listening to them since I was a small child now my children listen to them especially Neil Young this is 2024 and there's so much more. Unfortunately David Crosby is no longer with us😢 Stephen stills Graham Nash and Neil Young please Keep on rockin in the Free world by the way Neil Young has a new album out❤❤❤ and I'm not sure what the other two are up to😮 this was a very good interview yeah it's so hard to believe that George Harrison did not care for Neil Young's music 🎶❤️🙏❤️🌍✌️💯
He said Neil made a lot of 'noise' and it wasn't what he personally enjoyed listening to...George was listening to Ravi Shankar and searching for Higher Consciousness...i think Neil's anger in a number of songs turned off George.
I've read some old interviews where Crosby used to refer to it as the "extreme psychodramas" that he'd have with the Byrds and CSN&Y. For some reason, extreme psychodramas seemed to follow him wherever he went.
Fascinating. And so not like I always imagined the lives of rock stars to be like. IMHO, the spectrum between Stills control and calculation and Young's spontaneity is exactly the realm in which magic is created. One without the other can be quite excellent. But not magic.
That was a new one to me, although long ago I read that at least one guy in the Springfield, bass player Bruce Palmer, would refer to Stills as "Sarge" because Stills always tried to run the show. And I do think Stills was a military kid.
In the late 90's a friend asked me to source good marijuana for CSN's first tour to South Africa. We got free tickets to their Johannesburg concert, which was fantastic, except Stephen Stills appeared onstage with a broken nose, having slipped in the bath. I don't know how responsible I was for this ;)
So much is left out : Bluebird , Roger McGuinn's contribution to the style and substance Crosby brought to the group ..... So much important detail left out of what was undeniably a masked soap opera
Wow! Excellent documentary. A toxix relationship. They needed relationship counseling before it became popular. Their music may have flourished if they had.
Neil young refused to sign the release for the footage for Woodstock the movie as did many others. He wasn’t cut out they couldn’t use his footage till years later. Before he joined CSN had met w Nash and won Nash over.
@filmretrospective5334 I say , I've just stumbled upon your channel through this viddy as I adored Neil Young in my youth. I quite like your approach. A bit off topic, might you consider reviewing "Quartermass and the Pit" ? Not the BBC serial version, but the proper film.Like old Neil, this flick had me spellbound as a youth & I still believe it mildly gripping today. Cheers
George Harrison probably didn’t sign CSN because Graham Nash was in the Hollies and George hated the Hollies version of “If I Needed Someone,” which George wrote.
I had the Buffalo Springfield albums (in high school). I thought they were a major band (like The Doors). I also thought the "Neil Young" album was awesome. I understand that talented people are not satisfied with anything less than perfection.
I want to understand how George Harrison, in 1968 when he was obsessed with the Band and tripping off to Woodstock to hang out and record with Dylan, could have somehow thought CSN weren't worth signing. He probably thought they weren't Hare Krishna enough or something. He really comes off as a hugely pessimistic and judgemental sour puss.
I get your point. But Harrison was a sensitive sort, and Crosby came off to most who knew him as an insufferable, egotistical douche. Maybe it came down to personalities clashing, rather than the music?
@@christopher9152Yeah I'm in a creative field and the ego battles are rampant, especially now where it's almost validated whereas before it was seen as somewhat embarassing. Not to give credence, but it kinda goes with the territory, especially at a very high level - but really no one is necessarily "right" and most times everyone ends up looking like a douche. We're just at a point now where looking back you can pretty much decide who's side you're on and the "facts" can be skewed however you want them to be. Look at all the idiots that either bash or praise Lennon or McCartney trying to make it look like a contest of who's better, as if they somehow knew them. It's petty af. Harrison was just giving an opinion - and to me, of course he was wrong as far as not signing them. But look up Decca Records, guess who they DIDN'T sign? Here's a clue - they instead signed Brian Poole and The Tremeloes - remember them? 😂
Correction..Neil Young was not "cut out" of Woodstock. He specifically told the producers of Woodstock..you can film CSN but not Y..do not film my image..your making a lot of money off this Woodstock thing..and your not paying any of the bands you film. So leave me out.
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This documentry should've been longer. It was well told and held my interest.
The follow up.
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Thank You FR much appreciated
@@filmretrospective63 : C'est vraiment dommage, tout ce documentaire est complètement raté à cause de la voix de pédé du commentateur et surtout à cause de son accent anglais stupidement exagéré. Il faut le tuer !
* It's a real shame, this whole documentary is a complete failure because of the commentator's queer voice and especially because of his stupidly exaggerated English accent. We must kill him !
@@paulderby2117Best doc on rock ....these are....top shelf😊
Walking home from 3rd grade after school I found the Neil Young Harvest album in someones curb trash pickup . Went home an told my mom what I found . Mom was completely blind but told me to put it on the console stereo turntable . The record was badly scratched but we didnt care , we played it over an over . Christmas that year santa left me that album under the tree , thanks santa lol . That was 50 yrs. ago . Great memory , thanks mom . RIP
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Harvest was also my entry in to their world. My older brother had bought the album. He would rarely let me touch his stuff, so I would ask him play it...😅
In Jesus Christ Mighty Name AMEN🫶🤘🙏
I was a big Black Sabbath, Grand Funk, and Deep Purple fan.., I asked for the debut C,S,N album. It changed my life.
Thats a nice story, thanks for sharing.
"On the Beach" is - and frankly always was - a fabulous album.
Four guys who all didn’t like to be with each other. Marriage of convenience. Boy could they harmonize!
It's amazing the quality of work given they usually were really annoyed at one another!
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Absolutely.
All the drugs and alcohol didn't help much - surprise!
you're only getting the worst and ugliest aspects (to the extent this creator does his research and is even accurate). It's the entire theme of the channel. What makes it particularly special is the voice of the guy. It is like the accent of depression itself.
Stills played with a band he formed with Chris Hillman called Manassas , their first album , I thought it was one of the best he ever recorded,
Agreed. An absolutely fantastic double album.
One of my all time favorites.
Chris Hillman is so great -loved him in McGuinn, Clark and Hillman.
Thanks to guys like Earle Bailey, you hear quite a bit of Manassas on Sirius/XM's Deep Tracks....
Dude always plays great stuff, since his days on WMMR in Philly.
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The first was quite good, the second one was shite.
Great film, please do the follow up. Complicated man is Neil Young. I saw him at Hammersmith, it was epic, he played an hour of solo acoustic, then two hours of electric with the band, an incredible night.
i love neil young.. his style and music are a treasure!
Somebody else suggested this, but I think it's worth repeating. In his heart Neil is a soloist first, who uses bands when they suit his purposes. Stephen is a collaborator with extraordinary technical chops. He seems to relish working with others and doing whatever is needed, whether it's taking charge or filling gaps.
Dont forget a fascist.
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ok crybaby
He is not he hates trump
@@olecranonrebellion9976 Why is it ultraconservatives (fascists) such as you always call free people that?
That first album was a classic - and still one of my favorites after all these years.
Well, 7 days since your posting,I feel fortunate to have this show up on my YT feed.
I really appreciate your presentation of this music history.
Whenever you have a group of people working together,people are going to bang heads.
Friends,family,the job,etc. At best it will eventually disintegrate to a status quo,
so as to maintain some level of function,as necessary.
Water seeks it own level.
Just human nature,as I see it.
Talented,unique individuals,in unique situations,at a moment in time.
The ebb and flow,and the beauty created,if but for a moment...
Think of The Beatles,The Kinks,Cream,CSNY,Grand Funk Railroad,Greg Allman/Dickey Betts,...
How many times did Janis Joplin,Jimi Hendrix,Bob Dylan,Joni Mitchell,Miles Davis,
and Neil Young,switch gears,and follow their vision?
Why continue with a situation,that is untenable?
Or boring?
The list goes on,and on,and on,does it not?
We all "gotta do,what we gotta do".
They all touched our lives,forever...?
I'm a big Neil Young fan,and enjoy playing many of his acoustic tunes.
Although I don't/can't play a single tune,from either of these albums-
On The Beach,and Tonight's the Night.
They are by far, my favorite Neil Young albums.
Spontaneity,and undeniable heartfelt energy,at it's best.
The Real Deal
Cheers!
Odd I always thought that "tonight's the night" is one of his best efforts. I really like Neil Young's music and have many of his recordings "Tonight's the night" is probably my favorite.
It's a work of genius and one of my favorites, but not also easy to listen to, for me....
Neil is amazing CSN amazing all 4 was magic. saw them all together and separate over 40 years, Good documentary its hard to capture the vibe in the early seventies, the timing of there music and social issues couldn't have been more perfect. stills young was great
I saw SY in Niagara Falls, NY. It was a great show - although I remember both of them having altercations with the audience.
Caught CSN&Y in Phoenix, 1974...great. Went up front to see Neil, an old Idol. Still dig him too. Thanks Neil.
Saw them in Little Rock the same year, I still have the ticket stub.
Considering all the turmoil going on between band members, it’s pretty amazing CSNY were able to launch two quality albums, and only one of them a studio release. No wonder Deja Vu became such a legendary piece. I think it’s impressive when a group can set aside their differences to put out timeless, memorable music.
Neil Young isn't known to be a team player and Crosby Stills and Nash aren't a backup band.
"Impressive" to "set aside their differences"? Isn't that something every group has to do to be successful? And every marriage partner? Every set of friends? That's the norm. Doing what you are supposed to do anyway is not my definition of impressive.
And wow, they released two entire albums? And one of them studio? Not my idea of "pretty amazing".
I concur, and they set the genre and got out there and did it with no handbook, no support, with no real idea of consequences or much technical expertise, at a time when there was zilch in terms of recovery from narcotic addiction and alcoholism and at a dnagerous time of social unrest, when the drugs were 100% pure, the judgement around the perosnal clashes of the band members are neither here nor there, plenty of other bands and musicians were like it around the same time, and punk made a point of it later on in the 70s.
@@kvernon1 I read a quote from Graham Nash calling CSN [and maybe CSNY] failures.
Because they couldn't get along well enough to make more than a few good recordings.
I don't remember if he attributed this to ego and substance abuse :^)
He seems to have been a very patient person.
Neil certainly added something special to CSNY. I have a vivid, lifelong memory of a particular Neil song that was included in the sound track of the movie, "The Strawberry Statement", which was about the student protests at Columbia University. I think it was back in '71.
Somewhere In the movie, after some scenes of action and conflict, the visual goes to a night scene of the sky, with Neil's voice lamenting: "Big birds flying across the sky, throwing shadows on our eyes, leave us helpless, helpless, helpless, helpless." Neil certainly was not helpless, but he surely helped us, at that cinematic moment, to express our frustration in trying to end the war in Vietnam.
“We are not helpless we are men.”-Stephen Stills
Love the music all of these extremely talented musicians made. Its unfortunate that they couldn't hold it together. They all made some of my favorite music.
I was at that Boston show. Neil was also pissed at some bubblehead screaming, ‘Neil.., your bogus!’ Neil responded, Someone slap that guy before I do!” This huge guy told the bubblehead, Knock it off. Then Neil rocked the night. Saw him so many times with great stories and memories.
Love sent
Turns out Bubblehead was correct.
I was there. The crowd made a lot of noise. Neil or David said something like "It was quiet when I wrote this song"
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@@olecranonrebellion9976 How many times did you spread Covid?
I was around 12 or 13 in around 1974. I was an only child but my friends all had older siblings. When my babysitter, Jeannie, brought over the 45 Hello Goodbye/I am the Walrus by the Beatles, I was mesmerized. This was 1968 and I was 7. After that exposure, I was on a quest to find more of that kind of music. A friend’s brother had CSN’s debut album released in ‘69. We listened to it over and over and I decided that they were the coolest band ever, Deja Vu was even better. Their story is one of great highs and lows. Regardless of their personal struggles and creative differences, they were special, very special. They influenced me in a good way. Thanks for the great doc. ✌🏻
"He tried to do his best, but he could not" is a line of Neil's oft' quoted around our household. ;-)
Oh, i thought you refering to the channell host :)
Oh, man same here! My wife and I have used it many times on a couple of different cats we've had. They don't mean to be annoying, destructive, whatever...they just can't help themselves.
I love that line from "Tired Eyes", hysterical! Neil certainly is a one off original. My favorite artist of all time, but it's quite obvious that he was not "easy" to work with!
I have fond memories of Old Man. "Old man, look at my life, I'm a lot like you were". Reminds me of my dad, who passed 12 years ago. Dad was an old fashion, classic music (Opera etcetera) kind of Guy, but he really liked CSNY and aspecially NY. R.I.P. dad. (Gone, but not forgotten).
Well done. Lots of information and moved right along. Looking forward to a part 2.
I understand why, but I'm usually disappointed when music documentaries don't feature the music of the artists they profile due to copyright, but I didn't miss it at all with this one. Well told and engaging. Keep it up!
I agre with you but I dislike when the volume interferes with the dialog.
Young was an amazing artist and a nightmare of a human being.
wait a second, you said Neil is a nightmare of a human being, what about all the benefit concerts Neil did for disabled children, farmers, environmental issues, humanitarian issues, etc..........making millions of $$$$$$$$ for these organizations.
@@artvallejos1460He's always been super selfish in regards to music. He's left people in the lurch several times
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Many many Rock Stars are selfish and left other people in the lurch. to many to list. Even The Beatles.
Great video enjoyed it very much. I’m a big Neil fan and don’t know much about CSN without Young.
São todos ótimos. Junto a Elvis e Bon Dylan, são referência do Rock americano
Yes Buffalo Springfield had a lot of drama but they were so much more than that. Their albums are now recognized as classics and they did include tiimeless singles that everybody has heard including For What It's Worth, Mr Soul and Bluebird.
That's " half a million strong" talking about all the people at woodstock
Very good Presentation , I have collected a lot of the old LP's :) QC
Had that first album of young’s should have got a hell of a lot more recognition than it did
Saw Neil and Crazy Horse at The Rosemount Horizon outside Chicago over 30 years ago with my wife. Opening show for the Weld Tour. Sonic youth opened and blew everyone's ears out.
“This our second gig, man. We’re scared shitless!”
It's amazing these guys got anything done at all!!
Journey Through The Past was a great album and great movie!!
Excellent video. Perfectly succinct! Glad that you mentioned that "On The Beach" ended up being as good as it is!
Stills' historic "Something happening here. . ." is recalled in page 248 of my novel, King of Soul, recalling events at Kent State U, May 1970, a classic moment of American tragedy.
Only the song was not about Kent State. It was about the Sunset Strip curfew riots in Los Angeles in November 1966
Yes, I understand that. But I believe Stephen Stills himself will attest that the message in his song about protest had become an anthem for our generation, especially after their "Ohio" song. "Four dead in Ohio"@@JJS1953JJS
Wouldn't call that a tragedy
@@choossuck7653you wouldn't call people shooting innocent protestors a tragedy?
I thought the song was about the youth riots on Hollywood Blvd when the cops placed a curfew on rock and roll.
Look for the vid where they jam with Tom Jones, Tom is absolutely astounding. Even Neil cracks a big smile during the performance.
The picture of Crazy Horse ( The Rockets) is wrong. Frank "Poncho" Sampedro was a replacement for Danny Whitten.
Half a million, not half a billion. That would have been more than twice the entire population of the US at the time.
I was fortunate enough to see Neil Young and Crazy Horse in the late 70’s. First half of the show was Neil playing acoustic, Crazy Horse with Neil playing electric guitar the second half. Huge blow up amps, cone heads, hooded monks with red eyes…it was a great show.
I would urge all of you to watch C,S,N,&Y on the Tom Jones television show.., it catches them at their finest..!
I really like CSN&Y. But the Tom Jones show sounds like a lotta caterwauling.....
The irony of a fight breaking out on stage during the concert for the study of non-violence.
Young has always been a scumbag and hypocrite.
I met a guy in the 70s who travels CSN and mentioned they all hated each other, I'm first exposure to the underbelly of Rock & Roll...
My college girlfriend and I were walking on that beach when they were taking photos of Neil facing the water. My girlfriend walked up to him and asked if he lost something. I was shocked at her balls. I had been around Neil before, but this was pretty weird as nothing moved for hours.
Great presentation!
This was informative, in-depth, and really a joy to watch. Born in 63 I do remember some of these events.
The detail and photos along with the time line was just terrific. Lot's of info I knew nothing about!
Subbed! Keep up the good work! Best wishes😌
For the CSN cover, they should have flipped the negative. Or done it optically.
I thought the same thing, and it's so obvious I'm sure it was suggested. I could see Stills saying, "man, I don't want people to think I play left-handed" :)
Got to see Neil Young and Crazy Horse in 83. They had the stage set up like an old garage and a big RC cockroach running around. Very fun.
Angst and conflict have birthed perhaps the most creative and sublime music and art in general
I was in a thrift store in Los Angeles around 2015 and found "4 Way Street" on wax for a few dollars and bought it only because Neil was on it. His originals on there are so tasty. Plus Im from Ohio. So you cant ignore the live version of "Ohio" on that record.
Someone mentioned it on the comments. It summarizes what Neil Young is. AMAZING❤❤❤
Great video, I'm a big fan of all these guys. Are you going to do a Part 2? There are more chapters which could be covered'
Amazing video as always ! Can you please do one about Poco Early years?
The pioneers of the California country twang
except that only Tim Schmit was from California. Do your homework.
@@derhandtrommler yea true you have a point, but they all inspired many sounds such as the eagles; the eagles stole their bassist twice haha. It doesn’t matter where you are from, you can still inspire a sound in a certain dynamic. All artists eventually move to LA and try to make it big there, then a sound get constructed as “the California sound” even if they aren’t from there
Stills’ performance of “4x20” on Dick Cavett is mesmerizing. Whenever I watch it I always look at Joni Mitchell. She’s so into it, it’s like she’s in a trance.
-and he wasn’t into selling door-to-door.
Switch the playback to 1.25. You’re quite welcome.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day also happy st Patrick's day ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
You too. This channel is SO good. If you love music and learning about the people behind the classic - you're in the right place. To use 60s slang it's Groovy!
David
In the liner notes for Neil's "Decade" compilation album many, many years ago, he wrote that the LP Harvest "put him in the middle of the road. I soon headed for the ditch. The ride was rough but I met more interesting people there."
I'm familiar with that quote, as I have "Decade" and have read the liner notes. Based upon things I've read about Neil, it's not surprising that that quote is somewhat contradictory.
When he was with Springfield, he seemed to be distraught that they didn't achieve commercial success, but when he does with Harvest, he seems "dismissive" of it.
I guess it's just typical of young people and "artists", especially. Most of them are egomaniacs, which is why it's so rare they can get along with bandmates.
Wow, I had no idea of the turmoil in their group.
In Amsterdam, on the way to India in 1971 and their music was playing.
By the time we got to Woodstock, we were half a MILLION strong, not billion.
I saw CSN&Y in houston. Nash said Neil missed the fisrt couple of numbers. Because he was throwing a tantrum . He said it to the audience in attendance.
Actually, Stephen Stills was not cast because he had crooked teeth and a receding hairline
I said according to him 👍
I've heard that, too. My understanding is that he referred Peter Tork.
Don't they all
Producers were like, you wouldn’t happen to know anyone that’s your type with half the talent, goofier, not losing their hair, and has straight teeth.. ?🤞😬
Steven: “I do actually”
That's sad- but hysterical (!)
Maybe both are true, I read he decided he wasn't into it and suggested York.
But he wasn't destined to be a Monkee.
Jimi Hendrix was brought on tour to open for them! Can you imagine? Those teeny boopers were unprepared for that!
Neil Young is somehow a hero to me. I still cover songs like After the Gold Rush.
CSN should have stayed CSN. They did not need another member.
That's definitely what Graham Nash believed, at least when the idea was pitched to him that Neil should join. He talks about how against the idea he was, in his autobiography.
Too much talent and ego is not a recipe for a group that will last.
You forgot the part about alcohol and drug abuse :^)
Neil Young is the one of the most fascinating artists in rock history.
I have to say that I don't blame the producers of the Woodstock film for editing Young out of the final cut. The guy had his priorities backwards.
It''s basically Karma. If you treat photographers like crap-they might not want to film you. I thought it was funny!
I dunno. Neil might have balked upon listening to how horrendously out-of-tune was the guitar that Stephen was forced to play-seconds before they went on.
Groovy Baby 10-4 These Guys were Just Great R I P David
Good documentary. Thanks
Great artists all. It’s a shame that great music is not being produced anymore. Great music. Great era.
That acoustic solo tour he did back in 1968 was actually awesome! It dates well and is some of his best playing and singing, imo.
you left out "wind on the water", a masterpiece I saw performed. " tonight's the night" was a junkie's lament, we loved it. "long may you run" was stills solo performed (with flo and eddie) doing harmonies simultaneously crosby nash doing " wind on the water" with the help of many artists up the road in anaheim. crosby claimed lebanese (hash) for his inability to sing. I saw both concerts. neil did briefly appear with stephen doing songs but that was long ago.
I got to see them in Canada on the 74 tour. CSN&Y and The Band.
12 bucks.
What! George Harrison didn't care for Neil Young's music? I find it very hard to believe I know I read somewhere John Lennon didn't care for Neil Young's music and that I do believe well whether or not George Harrison cared for Neil Young's music or not George Harrison is still my favorite Beatle I love Crosby stills Nash & Young and I like the solo careers been listening to them since I was a small child now my children listen to them especially Neil Young this is 2024 and there's so much more. Unfortunately David Crosby is no longer with us😢 Stephen stills Graham Nash and Neil Young please Keep on rockin in the Free world by the way Neil Young has a new album out❤❤❤ and I'm not sure what the other two are up to😮 this was a very good interview yeah it's so hard to believe that George Harrison did not care for Neil Young's music 🎶❤️🙏❤️🌍✌️💯
He said Neil made a lot of 'noise' and it wasn't what he personally enjoyed listening to...George was listening to Ravi Shankar and searching for Higher Consciousness...i think Neil's anger in a number of songs turned off George.
George, God luv him, but he had something negative to say about a lot of performers.
Excuse me but George Harrison was very spiritual and I would not believe that he would judge anyone!
George Harrison was probably concerned about Neil Young's anger 😠 but I bet you that he prayed for him! 💔❤️🙏❤️🎶🌍✌️💯
Musicians names who are multi millionaire’s and “hard times” should not be allowed in the same sentence..!
I've read some old interviews where Crosby used to refer to it as the "extreme psychodramas" that he'd have with the Byrds and CSN&Y. For some reason, extreme psychodramas seemed to follow him wherever he went.
In Neil's book he spoke very favorably of Stills, not so much of Crosby.
Fascinating. And so not like I always imagined the lives of rock stars to be like.
IMHO, the spectrum between Stills control and calculation and Young's spontaneity is exactly the realm in which magic is created. One without the other can be quite excellent.
But not magic.
I enjoyed this thanks you! Stephen Stills, US marine corps
That was a new one to me, although long ago I read that at least one guy in the Springfield, bass player Bruce Palmer, would refer to Stills as "Sarge" because Stills always tried to run the show. And I do think Stills was a military kid.
@@anthonyc1883A new one for me too. So funny though.
To paraphrase : “ dear Steven it’s funny how things that start spontaneously… end spontaneously, eat a peach…”
Good doc and research…
@jpaulsteadman When it came to commitment Neil was the pits.
ANOTHER great video! Thanks for all the research and editing!
Nice work, never really knew about all the regroups. You can't have that many chiefs and all be artists
Great Stuff- THANK YOU
After the gold rush & Everybody knows this is nowere are great albums to listen to on acid.
The audience is still asleep ! This is how many years latter ?
Crosby always gets the bad wrap for being disagreeable. But really all four of them seemed hard to work with and had stubborn personalities
In the late 90's a friend asked me to source good marijuana for CSN's first tour to South Africa. We got free tickets to their Johannesburg concert, which was fantastic, except Stephen Stills appeared onstage with a broken nose, having slipped in the bath. I don't know how responsible I was for this ;)
CSN album is one of the best ever only topped by Deja Vu by CSN&Y
The opposite is true.
HARVEST is a very good album!
Much enjoyed. It held my interest throughout. Well done man.
So much is left out : Bluebird , Roger McGuinn's contribution to the style and substance Crosby brought to the group ..... So much important detail left out of what was undeniably a masked soap opera
Wow! Excellent documentary. A toxix relationship. They needed relationship counseling before it became popular. Their music may have flourished if they had.
Great doc
Neil young refused to sign the release for the footage for Woodstock the movie as did many others. He wasn’t cut out they couldn’t use his footage till years later. Before he joined CSN had met w Nash and won Nash over.
* "By the time we got to Woodstock, we were half a MILLION strong."
Art is fascinating. Appealing to one and torture to another, all from a single work. Thus comparison is pointless, it’s all subjective.
well stated
It was ever thus.
why the sudden STOP.....
I was going to do a follow up that takes us through to present day if the video got enough interest
@@filmretrospective63 thank you .. hope the response ☝ is good
@filmretrospective5334 I say , I've just stumbled upon your channel through this viddy as I adored Neil Young in my youth. I quite like your approach. A bit off topic, might you consider reviewing "Quartermass and the Pit" ? Not the BBC serial version, but the proper film.Like old Neil, this flick had me spellbound as a youth & I still believe it mildly gripping today. Cheers
Whoa you totally skipped 'After The Gold Rush' recordings, dude.
Always thought that Neil saved his best tunes for his solo work. For instance, After the Goldrush released 5 months after Deja vu.
George Harrison probably didn’t sign CSN because Graham Nash was in the Hollies and George hated the Hollies version of “If I Needed Someone,” which George wrote.
Always thought HARVEST was the highlight of Neil Youngs writing talent... at least to my ear lol
neil young is a fool , I stand by this comment
you are a fool for making a foolish comment. I stand by this comment.
@@artvallejos1460 foolish comment
Love it🎉
I had the Buffalo Springfield albums (in high school). I thought they were a major band (like The Doors). I also thought the "Neil Young" album was awesome. I understand that talented people are not satisfied with anything less than perfection.
I want to understand how George Harrison, in 1968 when he was obsessed with the Band and tripping off to Woodstock to hang out and record with Dylan, could have somehow thought CSN weren't worth signing. He probably thought they weren't Hare Krishna enough or something. He really comes off as a hugely pessimistic and judgemental sour puss.
Jesus can someone have an opinion without being judged personally? Who cares.
I get your point. But Harrison was a sensitive sort, and Crosby came off to most who knew him as an insufferable, egotistical douche. Maybe it came down to personalities clashing, rather than the music?
@@christopher9152Yeah I'm in a creative field and the ego battles are rampant, especially now where it's almost validated whereas before it was seen as somewhat embarassing. Not to give credence, but it kinda goes with the territory, especially at a very high level - but really no one is necessarily "right" and most times everyone ends up looking like a douche. We're just at a point now where looking back you can pretty much decide who's side you're on and the "facts" can be skewed however you want them to be. Look at all the idiots that either bash or praise Lennon or McCartney trying to make it look like a contest of who's better, as if they somehow knew them. It's petty af. Harrison was just giving an opinion - and to me, of course he was wrong as far as not signing them. But look up Decca Records, guess who they DIDN'T sign? Here's a clue - they instead signed Brian Poole and The Tremeloes - remember them? 😂
Who cares. George was a Beatles member and Crosby was ....sorry who? 😅
Correction..Neil Young was not "cut out" of Woodstock. He specifically told the producers of Woodstock..you can film CSN but not Y..do not film my image..your making a lot of money off this Woodstock thing..and your not paying any of the bands you film. So leave me out.