What If Rhaenyra Went To Rooks Rest? (House Of The Dragon)

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  • @ph89787
    @ph89787 4 місяці тому +118

    Personally, the Black's use of the Dragons should have been "All or nothing." Either Rhaenyra commits all of her Dragons at once or hold them off and let the army handle it.

    • @J_ads2000
      @J_ads2000 4 місяці тому +24

      That’s what Jaehaerys planned to do against Maegor. Vermithor, Silverwing and Dreamfyre vs Balerion.

    • @alejandronunez5110
      @alejandronunez5110 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@J_ads2000 that would have been a sight to behold

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 4 місяці тому +4

      Disagree. Send squads of three out whilst both aegon and aemond are a factor, reduce the squads to two once one is out of the equation. And whilst aemond is alive at least one squad should have both daemon and rhaenys since only their dragons combined stand a chance at killing vhagar without casualties. The third dragon in that squad is to distract aegon.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@J_ads2000balerion would have won. Those dragons were teenagers at best at that time.

  • @Jacaerys1
    @Jacaerys1 4 місяці тому +77

    If Rhaenys dispatches Sunfyre just like in the show, does that leave Meleys and Syrax vs Vhagar? Vhagar is strong, but she can’t exactly guard her rear and front at the same time. Aemond may have to flee. 🤔

    • @AniSwiftTVRecaps
      @AniSwiftTVRecaps 4 місяці тому +2

      nah vhagar first surprise attack would kill the dragon that is not entangled with aegon leaving it as a 1v1 so things should go the same way but maybe this time aegon and rhaenyra dies instead of melys and her rider

    • @khoi3531
      @khoi3531 4 місяці тому +15

      Honestly Daemon was kinda right, they really needed to take out Aemond and Vhagar at the very start of the war, when team black was at its full strength. As good as Vhagar is, I really don’t see her winning a 3v1 against Meleys, Caraxes and Syrax. I doubt Sunfyre showing up changes the outcome either, but I haven’t read Fire and Blood so I’m only going of the show, idk if Sunfyre is more capable in the book.

    • @AniSwiftTVRecaps
      @AniSwiftTVRecaps 4 місяці тому +3

      @@khoi3531 nahn ur right the only thing sunfyre can do is act as a distraction so vhagar can get a free kill

    • @J_ads2000
      @J_ads2000 4 місяці тому +8

      @@AniSwiftTVRecaps Think you’re underestimating how quick Meleys AND syrax would dispatch Sunfyre. In the show Sunfyre was able to temporarily get away from Meleys, that wouldn’t happen if he was against two dragons. Vhagar came much later than that.

    • @J_ads2000
      @J_ads2000 4 місяці тому +3

      @@khoi3531 You’re right but I can’t see any battle where Vhagar doesn’t take someone down with her. Once them Jaws are locked then whoever’s in them is also dead. It’s Russian roulette.

  • @chris10180d
    @chris10180d 4 місяці тому +58

    What if Lucerys & Arrax were able to successfully evade Aemond & Vhagar and make it back to Dragonstone in one piece?
    What if Arrax had burned Aemond instead of Vhagar?

    • @kenyabrunson4985
      @kenyabrunson4985 4 місяці тому +11

      Lucerys would be a giga-chad if he burnt Aemond, AND put his eye out.😂

    • @LoveK1
      @LoveK1 4 місяці тому +8

      @@kenyabrunson4985Aemond would be fighting the air in his sick bed if Luce got the drop on him not once, but TWICE.😂

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 4 місяці тому +1

      Aemond would be so pissed before he falls to his death that even with the worlds largest dragon he still lost to lucerys

    • @rias.gremoryyy
      @rias.gremoryyy 3 місяці тому

      Interesting way to cope

  • @davidbalogun7569
    @davidbalogun7569 4 місяці тому +31

    Not a chance Rhaenyra goes alone. Only way this happens is if she goes WITH Rhaenys as some protection if not they'd put her under house arrest lol. I actually think an interesting what if would be a black victory at rooks rest, let's say one of Rhaenyra or Jace decides to go after Rhaenys to help and joins the fight vs aegon

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 4 місяці тому +49

    What if Rhaenyra took Gwayne Hightower as a Lover instead of Harwin Strong?
    What if Lucerys lost his eye *instead* of Aemond?
    What if both Lucerys & Aemond died in episode 10?
    What if Aemma Arryn last child, Baelon was born a girl that married Aegon-II?
    What if Viserys had Aegon II married Rhaenyra *After* Laenor’s death?
    What if Rhaenyra was like Jaehaerys The Conciliator?
    What if Rhaenyra Targaryen married Borros Baratheon?
    What if Viserys-I made Rhaenyra Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Viserys-I made Rhaenys Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Viserys-I made Daemon Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Rhaenyra married Otto after Alicent married Viserys?
    What if Aegon-III lived longer and made his Daughter Daena hair after the death of his sons?

    • @lancehenry1936
      @lancehenry1936 4 місяці тому +1

      These are great ideas!

    • @carastone3473
      @carastone3473 4 місяці тому +1

      Gwayne Hightower was in Old town, not King's landing, when Rhaenyra was seeing Ser Harwin.

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@carastone3473 then what if Otto took Gwayne with him? Then Rhaenyra spotted him and immediately recognized him as Allicent's brother, then in a spur of the moment pettiness, comes with a plan and boom, they bumping uglies

    • @AniSwiftTVRecaps
      @AniSwiftTVRecaps 4 місяці тому +1

      meh im bored sowhat if lucerys lost an eye.
      aemon goes to the castle on vhagar and sees the mighty arrax loaming in the court yard, it shrieks and although small its roar seemed to crack the sky. lucerys enters the castle "uncle I see your doing well but its your lucky day as I have come as a messenger"
      aemon "I see nephew but u dont belong here, run back to your mother"
      lucerys begins walking away when his uncle says "I hope u can find your way home its hard to see in such a strong storm"
      everyone begins laughing at the crown prince but he kept his anger hidden and left.
      The next day after the storm passed aemon makes his way to kings landing with the good news but every time the wind blows vhagar seems agitated and more wild like she senses something but the prince calms her down unaware of the loaming threat. something suddenly crashed into vhagar head from above shooting flames but the she-dragon long accustomed to fighting turned just in time for the fire to miss her rider.
      "I will bring my mother your head traitor" lucrys shouted
      "are u mad boy" aemon replied
      both of them are princes but there was two differences aemon spent his life in luxury after claiming vhagar having everything he wanted since he had nothing to prove, but lucerys lost it all that day, he lost a fight where he had all the advantage, he lost the respect of his soon to be wife as he couldn't stand against the thief who stole her mother's dragon and everyone still called him the one eye'd bastard behind his back.
      Aemon felt confusion, fear, yes he was terrified and all these emotions were leaking into vhagar while lucerys only felt one thing rage, arrax maneuvered around chagars claws tail whip and teeth masterfully but never attacked as to attack would mean death while fighting the mighty vhagar but lucerys wasn't aiming to kill vhagar, on one of the big dragons wild strike she left her rider open for a moment but even a slight slip up is fatal in a fight between dragons arrax flew up with all the strength he reserved from not attacking and boy and dragon screamed together as the jaws of arrax closed around aemons head and tore it clean off. the riderless dragon screamed and mourned for her rider and lucerys prepared to die as arrax had no strength left to runaway at the speed needed much less to fight, vhagar was far away but he looked into the boys one eye and they both roared however surprisingly the bigger dragon turned to go back to kings landing as lucerys returned to storms end and won the Baratheon to his mothers cause with fire and blood.

    • @ewanlxne
      @ewanlxne 4 місяці тому +6

      the idea of nyra marrying otto is hilarious

  • @justicedunham4088
    @justicedunham4088 4 місяці тому +33

    There is no way Rhaenyra would have gone alone. She would have to fly with Rhaenys and Baela. The real question is, could they win the 3v1 against Vhaegar or a 3v2

    • @invictus6176
      @invictus6176 4 місяці тому +4

      if its the show version I reckon they could kill Sunfyre before Vhaegar could jump in TBH which then i could see Baela dying and Syrax possibly being crippled with Vhaegar ultimately dying

    • @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
      @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 4 місяці тому +2

      Rhaenys would've definitely gone with her, Jace and Baela can defend D.Stone. Aemond held back only because he saw Sunfyre, but he didn't know that the Black sent 2 dragons (in this scenario). Rhaenyra n Rhaenys would've taken care of Sunfyre/Aegon before Aemond could take flight.

  • @ph89787
    @ph89787 4 місяці тому +40

    Aegon: Got her. Merry Christmas for Aegon!
    Alicent: Aegon No!
    Aegon: Aegon Yes!!

  • @CristianMartinez-yc6pr
    @CristianMartinez-yc6pr 4 місяці тому +45

    Daemon would press his own claim

    • @dellavonta187
      @dellavonta187 4 місяці тому +2

      Well his son Aegon has the best claim after aegon and the greens

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@dellavonta187by green line of succession after the greens its daemon himself with the best claim.

    • @uncannybook581
      @uncannybook581 4 місяці тому

      @@dellavonta187 Exactly, and the youngest "child" of laenor is due to be heir to Hull, so it will be Aegon

  • @TheRealHerbaSchmurba
    @TheRealHerbaSchmurba 4 місяці тому +5

    I think you made this a bit too contrived with Rhaenys not going with Rhaenyra. If Rhaenyra goes then Rhaenys absolutely goes as well. They wouldnt allow her to go by herself.

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo 4 місяці тому +7

    16:47 Don’t forget, Daeron’s dragon is the blue queen

  • @AndieeeX
    @AndieeeX 4 місяці тому +6

    Not sure if this is on brand for your content, but would love to see a funny video of like... what if the dragons could talk. Maybe for an april fools video or something haha. Keep up the great work!

  • @christopherdavis3424
    @christopherdavis3424 4 місяці тому +2

    What if Viserys named Daemon his heir instead of Rhaenyra after Aemma and Baelon’s deaths?

  • @pckrichards7980
    @pckrichards7980 4 місяці тому +2

    What if aliscent was actually similar to her book character

  • @neneninetails5803
    @neneninetails5803 4 місяці тому +3

    So I have a possibly interesting “what if”. What if Aemond was at the castle for the blood and cheese incident. Would he die instead of the child and how would that effect the storyline? I really hope it’s covered. And I love your videos 😁

  • @playmademj3939
    @playmademj3939 4 місяці тому +2

    Here’s one what if Balerion the black dread was alive during the dance of the dragons

  • @christopherdavis3424
    @christopherdavis3424 4 місяці тому +1

    The Dance of the Dragons has now become the “War of Three Kings.”

  • @Vanny1980
    @Vanny1980 4 місяці тому +6

    PART 2!!! Make one plsss 😭😭😭

  • @Corbin-l5h
    @Corbin-l5h 4 місяці тому +1

    I think it would be interesting if they both went together

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 4 місяці тому +4

    I don’t remember you saying it but what about the secret prince that was promise? The song of ice and fire?
    Not sure if Rhaenyra told Jace this but with her died, Daemon is the only one left that knows about the POIAF secret.
    There’s a lot of stuff happening here, and Baela disowning Daemon is what I expected, but now with Daemon only one to know POIAF and Aegon-III being too young to hear about it.
    And Daemon survival being in doubt.
    Alicent is left knowing that No knows about it, so how’s that guilt going to effect her?

    • @TheEmpyreanSpeaks
      @TheEmpyreanSpeaks  4 місяці тому +2

      Well in canon Rhaenyra did actually tell Jace about the song of ice and fire before the battle of Rooks Rest got underway in episode four. So honestly it’s very likely that Rhaenyra tells him the prophecy before she leaves for battle and it slipped my mind when I made this but I could definitely see being told the prophecy and his mother dying soon after having ramifications with Jace. Beyond that though when it comes to Alicent, I don’t see her having much guilt about people not knowing the prophecy if that’s what you’re asking. She’ll feel more guilty about Rhaenyra’s death than anything and probably begin to think that the dream was pointless. She already believed at this point that people were going to fight and die for what they believed no matter what Viserys wanted or some dream she only recently learned about. Rhaenyra’s death would probably just fuel the idea that it was pointless or maybe that Rhaenyra was wrong this whole time. Either way while we did see how the knowledge of the story affected her I doubt it’d weigh as heavily on her as it would the Targaryens.

  • @benjamingarrett9960
    @benjamingarrett9960 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm pretty sure Syrax would just out fly Vhagar and Sunfyre

  • @Jacaerys1
    @Jacaerys1 4 місяці тому +1

    This needs a part two now.

  • @carastone3473
    @carastone3473 4 місяці тому +8

    What combat had Rhaenys seen though? There’s been peace for about 80 years and she was only in her 50s. 🤷‍♀️

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 4 місяці тому +6

      Less Rhaenys and more Meleys as I think Meleys has seen combat before

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому

      Meleys was just way larger and had a very experienced rider.

    • @carastone3473
      @carastone3473 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Aaron_Guest - nope! Rhaenys said to Meleys, “off to battle again, old girl” as they took off for Rook’s Rest. Meleys’s only other rider was Alyssa Targaryen, mother of Viserys & Daemon.

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому +2

      @@carastone3473 Meleys has never been in battle.

    • @urmomreal.5920
      @urmomreal.5920 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Aaron_Guestshow Meleys has, we just don't know what conflict she has been in. Book=/=show

  • @alfaridwansetiabudi252
    @alfaridwansetiabudi252 4 місяці тому +4

    please make part 2 of it

  • @crimsonECH1DNA
    @crimsonECH1DNA 4 місяці тому +11

    Can't see this scenario ending other way than a total victory for the Greens. As it is, Daemon no longer have a legitimate claim anymore either. In the show, the Riverlands were only begrudgling going along with Daemon because he was the King Consort and they previously declared to Rhaenyra. If she is no longer part of the equation, Daemon's rebellion kind of fizzles out.

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому +3

      Or he tries to strike out on his own. So the Riverlanders are now all forced to swear to him.

    • @jamesw7072
      @jamesw7072 4 місяці тому +2

      All Daemon would have to do is take out Jace and Joffrey (maybe he could find another blood and cheese), and he would be king consort regent until his son young Aegon came of age, his rightful heir anyway, and the Riverlords and other anti greenhouses would fall In line.

  • @DarkApostleNoek
    @DarkApostleNoek 4 місяці тому +3

    This is interesting though in the show and this both she & Rhaenys should have gone. Remember they were closer to Dragonstone then Kingslanding so by the time info got back both their best Dragons were gone the battle would be done, with of course this actually becomes a 2v2 King vs Queen, Champion vs Champion.
    What if...
    ...Myrcella survived being poison.
    ....Viserys never got remarried.

  • @trent2961
    @trent2961 4 місяці тому

    Been watching all your hot what ifs since I found out abt ur channel so 🔥

  • @jaymiemcclure4871
    @jaymiemcclure4871 4 місяці тому

    Would love a part 2! 😍

  • @zc16_
    @zc16_ 4 місяці тому +13

    i feel like this could be cool but “What if Jon had fully bonded to Rhaegal and Rhaegal didnt die?”

    • @davidgreen4868
      @davidgreen4868 4 місяці тому

      Hell Yes!!! Do a video on that!

    • @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
      @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 4 місяці тому

      I third this!. A potentially interesting scenario I'd love to see unfold. The show really did them dirty

    • @zc16_
      @zc16_ 4 місяці тому

      yeah i mainly thought of it because of Jon’s reaction to Dany turning on Kings landing, thinking of Jon running to Rhaegal and having to possibly fight Dany on Drogon (and people love Drogon but Rhaegal has better dragon to dragon feats and i feel it could go either way whereas most would think Dany and Drogon would dominate) or that situation doesnt even happen at all because Rhaegal isnt dead so Dany isnt as unstable but maybe a conflict happens in the future and a mini “dance of dragons” happens with Jon being the one that comes out in top because people flock to him over Dany because of her approach to ruling and Jons reputation

    • @zc16_
      @zc16_ 4 місяці тому +1

      just an idea that could go many ways; going the long route and extend the story or keep it to a few days - weeks, theres alot of possibilities… i just love the videos and really enjoy how he goes about his theories

    • @dakwomgallop1584
      @dakwomgallop1584 Місяць тому

      This would be a awesome video

  • @barbiana1965
    @barbiana1965 4 місяці тому

    DEF Need part 2 to this

  • @Wrath2066
    @Wrath2066 4 місяці тому +4

    What if Daemon married Alicent and Viserys married Laena?

  • @andrewjoyce3634
    @andrewjoyce3634 4 місяці тому +1

    What if daemon went to rooks rest instead? Caraxes is smaller than meleys but is said to be much more ferocious

  • @j.hatton217
    @j.hatton217 4 місяці тому +1

    What if Viseyrs never got sick?

  • @StiggusRattus
    @StiggusRattus 4 місяці тому +2

    Would love to see a what if where Rhaenyra claimed a different dragon. I would love to see her claim Sliverwing or Vermithor?

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 4 місяці тому +1

      Maybe Vermithor or Vhagar. I mean, Rhaenyra wants to be Visenya 2.0, feared, badass and what better dragon to give her such a reputation than Vermithor or even better, Visenya's dragon, Vhagar?

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому

      Ewww

  • @MrEcoho
    @MrEcoho 4 місяці тому +2

    sorry but syrax is twice the size of sunfire and size really does matter a lot in a dragon battle which means if Aemond holds back like he did before Aegon gets killed by the duo and if he takes the field they likely retreat or try their damnedest to kill Aemond while avoiding Vhagar.

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому +1

      Not in the show, and even in the book, Syrax is lazy and fat, while Sunfyre is essentially built for war.

    • @MrEcoho
      @MrEcoho 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Aaron_Guest in both the show and the book shes bigger. in the show shes a good half again his size while in the book shes compared to caraxes in size, so show version its still a fight for her but one she should win with zero issues and book version she kills Sunfyre like the welp he is very quickly.
      also i guess i should clarify the duo i spoke of was Syrax and Malays killing of Aegon quickly and either killing Aemond or scaring him off should he hold back and let Aegon die.

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому

      @MrEcoho In the show, she is not. In the books, her fat lazy ass would get put down quick, she couldn't even beat a few peasants with knives.
      This sounds like insane levels of cope.

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому +1

      @MrEcoho Also, if the four of them fought at Rook's Rest, the Blacks would've lost. Rhaenys still dies against Vhagar before Vhagar would've swooped in while Aegon and Rhaenyra were fighting and killed her.

    • @MrEcoho
      @MrEcoho 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Aaron_Guest yes and like i said if Vhagar and Aemond take the field at the start they likely retreat or they try to kill Aemond while avoiding actually fighting Vhagar which is entirely possible but if he holds back like he did in the show Aegon gets killed too fast for him to jump them and after Sunfyre is essentially gutted by the duo Aemond is now outnumbered and while his dragon is bigger he himself is an easy target of dragon fire meaning at best he might be able to kill one of them at the risk of being killed himself or permanently maimed with the last rider being able to disengage from battle with the larger dragon claiming victory.

  • @jesselandgraab3386
    @jesselandgraab3386 4 місяці тому +2

    I think Daemon would kill Jace (or atleast heavily undermine him) and try to claim that he's the true heir. I think if Daemon was to actually be successful in capturing the iron throne he would be swiftly betrayed and killed. No one likes Daemon, he's an awful ruler with no redeemable traits, his cruelty is well known and he's obviously selfish and deranged. The suspicions people had of him when it came to his jealousy and ambitions with respect to Visery and Rhaenyra's crown would now be confirmed. Even if people swear to serve him, behind closed doors they will despise him and covertly undermine his efforts. He is a destroyer and he would be held in same light as Maegor but without the reputation of glory. The strings that hold the seven kingdoms together would snap and his rule would implode.

  • @ifeeldead463
    @ifeeldead463 4 місяці тому +11

    Would Syrax have really made that good a difference? I mean, like Sunfyre, Syrax has never know combat so I think Aegon and Sunfyre wouldnt have struggled that badly.
    Tho if this is a "Rhaenyra went with Rhaenys issue" then Sunfyre and maybe Aegon would be dead cuz while yes Syrax has no combat experience, Meleys being present would make up for it. In fact, Meleys was already bullying poor Sunfyre before Vhagar showed up so imagine if it were two dragons ganging up on poor Sunfyre. I think Sunfyre wouldve at least suffered worse injuries and maybe if theyre lucky, one of the dragons manages to snatch up Aegon from his saddle and kill him before Vhagar and Aemmond intervened, leading to Sunfyre's death and either Aegon's injuries or death. However, I still think Rhaenys and Meleys will still die as Rhaenys know Rhaenyra is top priority so she has Rhaenyra escape while she and Meleys buy her time, leading to their deaths.
    Corlys would resent Rhaenyra for abandoning hisi wife, regardless if Rhaenyra explained to him that Rhaenys told her to leave, xuz even tho this is a war and thats something Rhaenys would do, thats still his wife and the guy is understandably devastated.

    • @Jacaerys1
      @Jacaerys1 4 місяці тому +1

      Do you think Aemond would flee, he would be at risk of getting attacked from behind while Meleys attacked the front?

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Jacaerys1 Like if Rhaenyra and Rhaenys decided to try their luck and fight Aemmond? Not sure.
      On the one hand, Aemmond is an insecure but strategic man. He knows fleeing while riding Vhagar and coming into the fight late will not look good on their allies. After all, only reason he left during Red Sowing was because there were three dragons, one of which was Vermithor, who's roughly Vhagar's size. Meanwhile Meleys and Syrax are both smaller compared to Vhagar. Also, the only people there were Rhae, Hugh and Adam, no one else to spread news that Aemmond ran off like a coward. Plus, Syrax and Meleys' battle experience is small compared to Vhagar's.
      On the otherhand, yeah, Vhagar's old and there's only one of her and two of the Blacks. She's not as sharp or fast as she was back in her prime, even if she could still keep up with a young dragon like Arrax. Also, Syrax and Meleys could use their size and numbers to their advantage. One to distract Vhagar, another to try and get Aemmond.

    • @J_ads2000
      @J_ads2000 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ifeeldead463 Aegon and Sunfyre wouldn’t stand a chance against two. Meleys was faster than Syrax so she’d engage from the front. Syrax would eventually catch up and burn Aegon from the back. While Syrax has limited experience, she is still capable of breathing fire. Rhaenyra is good at riding and has 25 years of experience. A lot more than Aemond and Aegon. That said, few dragons have ever been to war. No dragon alive has ever fought another dragon (aside from the cannibal perhaps).
      It would then be a 2v1 against Vhagar where she’d die and take one of the dragons with her. Whoever attacks Vhagar from the front would die.

  • @wintersolider6415
    @wintersolider6415 4 місяці тому +2

    What if aegon visery thitrd brother survived

  • @greenknightofwar7024
    @greenknightofwar7024 4 місяці тому

    I think the Daemon still gets his Weirwood dream only the throne is being used by man he doesn’t recognize, and a younger man at his side as hand. Aegon Dragonsbane and Viserys II. It would probably reinforce his desire to be king knowing it will be his sons who will be victorious even if he may die.

  • @kleailia6332
    @kleailia6332 4 місяці тому +1

    What if Rhaenyra took Gwayne Hightower as a lover?
    What if Luke 's dragon burned Aemond instead of Vaeghar?
    What if Alicent 's children were born bastards?
    What if Rhaenys won in Rooks Rest?

  • @AliThaDude
    @AliThaDude 4 місяці тому

    You’ve gotta do a part 2!

  • @debamlyabanerjee4067
    @debamlyabanerjee4067 4 місяці тому +1

    can you make a part 2

  • @ph89787
    @ph89787 4 місяці тому +6

    To paraphrase Mr Popo.
    “She’s dead.”

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 4 місяці тому

    Love your content ❤❤❤❤

  • @pokeflare2111
    @pokeflare2111 4 місяці тому

    Can you do if Oberynn Martell beat the mountain

  • @callumhulme5503
    @callumhulme5503 4 місяці тому +1

    Ion mean to dickride but we NEED the bronze dragon pt3 I can’t say this any more ways😭 and also expand on the what if daemon kept his crown in here for any of it🙏

  • @Mcherri
    @Mcherri 4 місяці тому +2

    The better match would be syrax vs sunfyre since both aegon and rhaenyra and their dragons have 0 battle experience at most the big advantage rhaenyra has over aegon is that she is a more experienced dragon rider she has been riding since she was 7 years old. Syrax would most likely win than she and meleys could tag team vhagar.

    • @brendan9868
      @brendan9868 4 місяці тому +1

      I mean Sunfyre is described as “Huge and Heavy” and a “formidable fighter”
      Aegon was fairly young himself when he claimed him with the oldest possible date being when he was 13 and his bond with Sunfyre was supposedly one of the strongest in history.
      *Spoilers* don’t read further if you don’t know the end
      I mean we are talking about a dragon who despite being crippled managed to kill Grey Ghost and Moondancer.
      If we’re going off feats and descriptions, I’m taking Sunfyre in that fight since Syrax goes it’s entire life as far as we know without seeing a battle.

    • @urmomreal.5920
      @urmomreal.5920 4 місяці тому

      ​@@brendan9868this ignores that Moondancer is a dragon lighter than a horse and Grey Ghost size is completely unknown, but knowing that a wild Sheepstealer was chased off by Seasmoke GG likely was just a bit larger than Arrax or Moondancer. Syrax and Sunfyre would likely just kill each other like most dragons fights within similar sized dragons go.

    • @brendan9868
      @brendan9868 4 місяці тому +1

      @@urmomreal.5920 I agree they’d probably just kill eachother, but I’m saying if we were picking a more likely winner I’m going sunfyre.
      And yeah Moondancer was small while Grey Ghost is a question mark, I would assume GG was a bit smaller than Sheepstealer, but bigger point here is that he has combat feats while syrax doesn’t and that he managed the two while really only having 1 working wing, which is kinda bizarre if you think about it.

  • @wolfbane7497
    @wolfbane7497 4 місяці тому

    Deamon : " IT'S DEAMON TIME ! "

  • @darcspeagal2
    @darcspeagal2 4 місяці тому

    They'd both go. No way she is allowed alone

  • @bryantpoindexter0053
    @bryantpoindexter0053 4 місяці тому

    THANK YOU! Youknowhowlongibeenwaitingforthis
    But what if Rhaenyra went WITH Rhaenys to Rooks Rest

  • @Ms.Butters_Lover
    @Ms.Butters_Lover 4 місяці тому

    This would destroy the green image where they will be seen as kinslayer and daemon will be pissed to the point aegon will kill

  • @frederikkristen5116
    @frederikkristen5116 4 місяці тому +2

    Could you make a part 2 of the what if jacerys married helena Video?

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 4 місяці тому

    Look this is your biggest fan Stan we need part 3 to dareons revenge I need to see him own the throne

  • @embel1213
    @embel1213 3 місяці тому

    neither Rhaenys or Meleys has ever been to battle, Rhaenys never fought in the stepstones and Alyssa who was Meleys first rider never saw battle either

  • @bizarreconvos
    @bizarreconvos 4 місяці тому

    Could you make a Fabfic Video of What if Rhaenyra is born a Man. I know there won't be any challenges in his reign and it would be boring. But what about King Jaehaerys Reign? It was peaceful the only main issue are his own children whom drove him in the brink of insanity, and also Jaehaerys being a terrible father.
    Imagine that with Male Rhaenyra and his consort either from Alicent or Laena.
    I know Laena is a perfect Match, but what i really looked forward to make more Drama, is that Male Rhaenyra would've choose Alicent would cause a Rift between House Targaryen & House Velaryon. Or maybe Daemon would've cease the throne to himself and disappointed in his own nephew to choose Alicent. I think this either starts another War or Drama within the Family. Where a Dragons of Black & Red.
    That would've been an interesting Video ❤❤❤

  • @wadej56
    @wadej56 2 місяці тому

    You are 💯 wrong when you say that Rhaenys had seen battle. She absolutely had not ever seen battle. The books are quite clear that there had been the longest peace in recorded Westeros history.

  • @controversialrevolutionary4622
    @controversialrevolutionary4622 4 місяці тому

    Would this universe make Daemon the first Dowager King Consort?

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 4 місяці тому

    Daemon would have to use his son Aegon claim to get support

  • @simplestgamerz691
    @simplestgamerz691 4 місяці тому

    My lord empty please end the what if meleys buried the greens part 3 i am excited 😭😭

  • @xobio1ps3
    @xobio1ps3 4 місяці тому

    please part 2

  • @Sam-pb8hu
    @Sam-pb8hu 4 місяці тому

    The big problems facing Jace is that most of the Black supporters were due to the oaths sworn to Rhaenrya. No one swore any oaths to Jace. Plus he is a bastard. The Velaryons will support him because of Baela but even that may become shaky because of Addam. I can see Corlys after talking to Alyn going to Jace and demanding that Addam be freed or he abandons the cause. Cregan might support him. Lady Jeyne however will probably bend the knee to Aegon (she was already having second thoughts when Rhaenrya did not send her an adult dragon).
    The Greens are riding high. They have taken out two of the Black Dragons while all of theirs are still in the field. Without the Dragonseeds the Blacks have no way of matching Vhagar. Vhagar can swat Moondancer and Vermax like flies. Rhaenys and Melys are the Jace's only hope and Aemond would know that. I can see him attacking Driftmark forcing Rhaenys to face him one on one. If Rhaenys is killed then Jace and Baela are reduced to nuisance status and the Greens can focus all their attention on Daemon.

  • @Kyuubi047
    @Kyuubi047 4 місяці тому

    What if Brynden Rivers and Shiera Seastar became dragonseeds during the dance?

    • @alicewalton7411
      @alicewalton7411 4 місяці тому

      The Dance happens before their born, so it wouldn’t be possible

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 Місяць тому

    When is part 2

  • @Azogan_the_elderlich
    @Azogan_the_elderlich 4 місяці тому

    Didn’t the show runers say there would be two battle in the season right before airing. Then they ether just straight up lied or even worse they tricked up and had the battle of the burning mill or battle at dusken dale (which they did not show) be the other battle

  • @kleailia6332
    @kleailia6332 4 місяці тому +1

    What if Rhaenyra 's dagon was the cannibal?

    • @nickankhazali2995
      @nickankhazali2995 4 місяці тому

      That doesn’t even make sense

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому

      She would've gotten ate when she tried to tame him.
      Rhaenyra of all people isn't the one who could tame Cannibal.

    • @lumarrandom8144
      @lumarrandom8144 4 місяці тому +1

      Hypothetically, the cannibal has more experience than meleys because of all the dragons he's killed and eaten. Aegon would probably straight-up die but so will rhaenrya and the dragon since vhagar has more experience and is larger at that point. So both Aegon and rhaenyra would die. Which would be straight up chaos 😂

  • @juliamolinar3983
    @juliamolinar3983 4 місяці тому

    What if blood and cheese killed Aemond instead of Jaehaerys.👑

  • @pipergreen5430
    @pipergreen5430 3 місяці тому

    Probably a long shot, what if daemon was sent to rooks rest?

  • @velvaka
    @velvaka 4 місяці тому

    You forget meleys gad no war experience its just everyone trying to put her with the likes of vhagar,caraxes and virmithor ,she was just old enough to bully sunfyre 😂😂😂 and thats what i think syrax does too😂😂

  • @Kidd-In-Charge
    @Kidd-In-Charge 4 місяці тому

    UUUUUGH wrong question. The interesting question is what if Rhaenyra AND RHAENYS went to Rook’s Rest!

  • @SirJuliusKingsley9859
    @SirJuliusKingsley9859 4 місяці тому

    Should do this but remove Deamon's Acid trip and plop here here to just have fun

  • @IsyssM-jh6fg
    @IsyssM-jh6fg 3 місяці тому

    Yeah no, Rhaenyra would’ve messed Aegon up 😅she would know Angos and while she is not experienced in wars she is a dragon rider through and through

  • @jordanlane870
    @jordanlane870 4 місяці тому

    What if daemon and caraxes lived what if young griff or aegon hatched a Dragon what if the tragedy at summer hall never happened

  • @matthewrich6911
    @matthewrich6911 4 місяці тому

    What if? Rhaenyra married a stark

  • @menachemwilson1388
    @menachemwilson1388 4 місяці тому

    What happens if alicent and Helena with dreamfyre defect to dragonstone?

  • @carastone3473
    @carastone3473 4 місяці тому

    How does one ‘AIM’ dragon Fire?

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 4 місяці тому

    Mayles didn’t have battle experience

  • @CristianMartinez-yc6pr
    @CristianMartinez-yc6pr 4 місяці тому

    I also believe Jace would still die in the gullet as now it would be Vermax Moondancer and Meleys. Which if that happens the blacks are cooked and then it would be meleys and moondancer vs Caraxes vs tessarion Vhagar and Sunfyre. Which I think Viserys would still be taken to lys and presumed dead. And Joffrey and aegon would land in dragonstone. Meaning daemon would probably fly to Dragonstone to get his son aegon back and either face off against Baela and rhaenys or they would bend the knee to him. Meaning it would be Caraxes moon dancer and Meleys vs Vhagar Sunfyre and tessarion. And sunfyre beats moondancer. Tessarion while my favorite dragon gets cooked by meleys and we all know how Caraxes Vhagar would go. So daemon would sit the throne. With Aegon following him. Joffrey would probably be sent to the wall. Adam I presume would probably be smuggled out by Corlys and still be alive. Until Daemon probably kills him to make sure Joffreys claim can’t be pushed. And knowing Daemon Baela or Rhaena or both 🤢 would be his new queens

    • @Aaron_Guest
      @Aaron_Guest 4 місяці тому

      This is the biggest level of cape.

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 19 днів тому

    What if Robb joind Stannis What if Robb married frey What if Vale joind Robb What if Balon invaded westerlands. What if young griff existed in show. What if Tywin survied what if joffrey survied what if Tommen survied. What if Greens won dance of dragons. What if house stark joind greens. What if Daemon rebelled against rhaenrya. What if Jace and lucerys being bastard was revealed to realm. What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Edmure tully killed mountain. What if dorne joind Stannis. What if Viserys invaded westeros with dohraki

  • @karinunderwood8638
    @karinunderwood8638 4 місяці тому

    What if Jace was named heir? (By Viserys)

    • @Jacaerys1
      @Jacaerys1 4 місяці тому +1

      Ohhh, I like this.

  • @phil.moloney2980
    @phil.moloney2980 4 місяці тому

    What if Viserys and Daemon brother Aegon survived child birth and lived how would the story play out if there where three brothers instead of two, also would Aegon be the prefect balance between Viserys and Daemon or would he go off and do his own thing.
    What if jurying the ending of season one luke dragon fire hit Ameaond instead of Vhagar.
    What if when Harwin was punching Cole, he well pulled a Cole and punched him to death, like Joffrey before him.
    When part 2 of what if Deamon and Mysaria had a son.
    And finally a what if lighting shot.
    What if Smaug was in house of the dragon.

  • @davidgreen4868
    @davidgreen4868 4 місяці тому

    Maaaan I really enjoy/and love your what if videos. But I really hope Damon and Jace hash out this shit!!! Oh and and another thing even though Syrax is not familiar with battle she would still handle herself far better then Sunfyre 💯

  • @samkelozulu5710
    @samkelozulu5710 4 місяці тому

    What if suggestion What if Jon Snow Took Stannis Offer of legitimacy and married Val

  • @jankohn4827
    @jankohn4827 4 місяці тому

    I think if Rhaenyra dies, shit is going down the fan. Daemon would leave Harrenhal with or without the riverlords support to seek revenge. Daemon is more snake than dragon, is a quote from the books, and its the same in the show.
    Since Vhagar and Sunfyre are to much for him alone. He would probably fly south. Gather the black supporters in the reach and make a surprise attack on oldtown. Taking Tessarion out with Caraxes would be easy peasy. And House Tarly and Beesbury would be able to counter the hightower forces, until Tessarion is dead and Daemon can burn Oldtown to the ground. Might be bad for publicity, but the greens would have only two dragons at their back, sonve Helaena is to traumatized and any real support of the reach would be gone with house hightower anihilated, House Tyrell staying neutral and an angry Daemon there.

  • @federicoxcc4966
    @federicoxcc4966 4 місяці тому

    Ok put Rhaenys and Jace on stand by, but why not Baela?

  • @0predaking0
    @0predaking0 4 місяці тому

    So Aegon isnt cosplaying Darth Vader

  • @qunstrudel
    @qunstrudel 4 місяці тому

    I would have much rather watched your version of the story play out in season 2

  • @PrincessManHua
    @PrincessManHua 4 місяці тому

    What if Alicent was born a man?
    What if the strong boys were born females?
    What if Rhaenyra's lover/ strong bio dad was a Velaryon ( relative)?
    What if Rhaenyra married a Hightower?

  • @Augustus_emperor
    @Augustus_emperor 4 місяці тому +5

    Syrax was a fat lazy dragon who died to peasents. She dies either way

  • @spielfieber6908
    @spielfieber6908 4 місяці тому

    What if summerhall brought back the dragons

  • @joelbry2103
    @joelbry2103 4 місяці тому

    Do you hate Rhaenyra?

  • @Neeraj-w8z
    @Neeraj-w8z 4 місяці тому

    Bro don't drop this one

  • @juliamolinar3983
    @juliamolinar3983 4 місяці тому

    What if alicent had criston Cole's baby?

  • @carastone3473
    @carastone3473 4 місяці тому

    Helaena is NOT getting in the fight.

    • @Augustus_emperor
      @Augustus_emperor 4 місяці тому

      Facts, prolly help the blacks to fufil "Destiny"

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 19 днів тому

    Part2

  • @simonpierre8283
    @simonpierre8283 19 днів тому

    Part 2

  • @adeoluwaadebayo9959
    @adeoluwaadebayo9959 4 місяці тому

    She dead

  • @essenby123
    @essenby123 3 місяці тому

    Rhaenys grew up in peacetime and had never fought on dragonback before Rook's Rest. Unless we're counting her massacre of hundreds of civilians unnecessarily at the coronation... but she'd never been in a real fight. Her line to Meleys that ep was not accurate, because they'd never gone to battle before this. The only advantage she really has is more time having been a dragonrider than Aegon and Aemond, but Vhagar had seen countless battles, and this and her size ensured Meleys, fresh to battle and smaller, had no chance.

  • @CristianMartinez-yc6pr
    @CristianMartinez-yc6pr 4 місяці тому +2

    Sunfyre cooks Syrax. Syrax is the lazy dumb dragon

    • @Jacaerys1
      @Jacaerys1 4 місяці тому +1

      Viserys - “I’ll have your tongue for that” 😂

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 4 місяці тому

    Look this is your biggest fan Stan we need part 3 to dareons revenge I need to see him own the throne