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“Hello my friends” is part of your brand, don’t dump it! Great video as usual 👍🏼👍🏼
Been waiting for this comparison!
Once again, superb.
Thank you!
indeed : )
+1
Always enjoy your reviews. Thank you!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Question: Have you ever experienced overheating with the A7iii? Your videos and channel have been a huge help to me choosing equipment. You’re my go-to channel for this type of stuff. The time you put in to your videos does not go unnoticed!
I truly appreciate it and please let me know if overheating is something you’ve experienced. Thanks!
Very well done!
I absolutely love what Panasonic is doing for their customers so if I had to get a camera, they have earned my loyalty. That's not talking anything away from Sony, quiescently, Panasonic makes better cameras for my needs.
Thank you, fortunately everyone should be able to choose from the options that are available nowadays.
@@superjet2771 Sorry man, but I am looking at both side by side and the letters are bigger on Sony. Display size is also the size as with most Panasonic cameras.
Krásná,čistá práce..jako každé video.
Ďakujem pekne!
Thanks for the review! You really well promoted the A7III. Good job.
Just got the a7iii yesterday with the tamron 28-75. For me the price and formfactor helped to deside. Amazing review as always!
Thank you!
The Panny S1 is awesome but unbearably heavy if you plan to travel with it.
I have to agree with that, I wouldn't use it for travelling either.
I think it's an awesome camera but I'm selling mine after a full day outdoors at an event with the 70-200 lens. It was horribly heavy and also missed focus on 25% of the shots. That just won't work for me.
@@bobhanuman65 Yeah, I have noticed that a lot of S1 and S1Rs are up for a sale.
The Hybrid Shooter interestingly it appears to recognize the people every time but just doesn’t focus. :-(
Heavy traveling ??? i didn't get it ... Exemple : just depend how many lenses you will bring with you ... S1 + 3 lenses or 4 lenses or 1 lense... Not the same right ... + your lighting or not ... Batteries ...10 or 4 ??
no no my friend ... Everyone have his own style life traveling.... JUST DEPEND HOW YOU SET UP YOUR CAMERA BACKPACKS... RIGHT ?? ;)
THANKS MY FRIEND .
KADER.
i held the S1 yesterday and IT WAS A BEAST!!!! it was crazy heavy!!!!!
I'm selling mine after a full day event outside. It was just too much.
No concept of what an actual heavy camera is. Kids these days.
Thank you, great review as usual.
Thank you!
I love your videos man. You always do amazing work. It’s hard to decide which camera to buy though. I need a hybrid camera to create social media marketing for my company. I don’t know if I should wait for a Sony release, but this or maybe something else? What would you say is the best hybrid camera around this budget right now?
buy this*
Thank you! Sony won't be releasing A7S III yet and when they do so, it will be significantly more expensive. Also take a look at the lenses that you want to use. S1 also very good camera if you don't mind the size, A7 III is probably still the most pragmatic option, but it depends on your preferences.
Thank you for this great comparison
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Very nicely done. The review does show just what a disruptive camera the Sony was. I still don’t like the way Sony makes all greens look the same. But neither camera is going to take my G9 out of my cold dead hands.
Thank you. The greens were generally problem until the A6500 came out, new Sony cameras don't have problem with that.
Excellent reviews. Clear and concise. Thanks!
Thank you!
Great video! I love the S1 for shooting video. It's an amazing camera.
Thank you!
How about shooting photo?
I want both with every lens that each has to offer.
Wonderful review, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
An excellent video. All the information one needs for comparison. The content is interesting, informative and complete. Thank you.
Thank you, I'm glad that you like it!
I love your videos, thanks for your assessment. I just bought both of them. and both complement each other perfectly. Thanks @The Hybrid Shooter
Thank you!
Hey @marcyMoe now you have both can you please tell me if the S1 is able to produce as sharp video as the A7iii? I find my A7iii is super sharp compared to my GH5 for video.
Because the S1 looks so big on the 1st picture in the beginning, I checked the weight. Sony is 650g and S1 is over 1kg! Comparison ended there for me.
It is also written in the video.
Yes, I'm not criticizing the review. You make very good reviews, that is why I'm a subscriber :) I'm only sharing my opinion. There is nothing important S1 can do, that 7III cannot. From there on - why bother with this huge camera and twice the weight? For me the comparison end there in favor of the Sony.
I understand, I wasn't suggesting otherwise. That depends on what do you consider to be important. Probably the biggest benefit of that large body is more effective IBIS.
S1 Is designed for pros, who appreciate that kind of handling. I'm not one of them, therefore I'd also go for the Sony. But at the moment I'm still very happy with my D750 and have a lot of Nikon glass. Good job as usual, by the way!
so stay with your sony...
Great video man! I wish I had both cameras!
me too : /
Do you know if the S1 allow you to punch in to check focus while recording? That's one thing I miss from the GH series. I hope they've implemented on this.
Which camera has the better image in terms of video? The most detailed, sharp, clear image? The A7iii or the Lumix S!? Considering purchasing one or the other...thank you!! Love your channel!
Thank you, both are about the same in terms of video detail.
Hello my friend. Quick question, is still worth to buy now in 2019 Lumix G9 or you would choose something different for video and what ?
For video I would go with GH5 or A7 III.
An excellent comparison sir! As a landscape and product photographer, I was impressed by the image sharpess of the S1 (with Lumix 24-105 f/4) as shown in the dpreview image comparometer, as well as the ergonomics and build quality (size/weight aside), so I'm leaning towards the S1 kit. My question, regarding the comments about focus issues with the S1 and the Lumix S Pro 70-200 f/4, has the focus issue been resolved, since those comments are a year old? Thank you once again!
Thank you! Unfortunately not, it is probably at the limit of processing power, so I don’t think that it can be significantly improved by FW.
@@TheHybridShooter I see. Well, would this issue only primarily affect video? (I'm a 100% stills shooter.) I'm really interersted in this lens for the superb image sharpness I've read about. Thank you!
Really helpful comparison! Thank you very much!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thanks again for the quality video will you be getting the S1H and updating firmware for the S1 when released ?
You're welcome, I will probably make a video about FW update and I will not be getting the S1H but I will try to get one for a review.
Another great job, very clear and objective as always! Hello my friend!
Thank you!
The auto focus, weight and battery life decide for me.
TRUST ME S1 !
Thanks for the in-depth review! I think I'm leaning towards getting the A7III but do you think it's worth waiting for the A7IV? I heard that may be coming out soon.
I have no idea to be honest. No reliable information is available about the A7 IV, so nobody outside of Sony really know anything about it at this point.
Thanks for this great video
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thank you for the helpful review.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Hi - Thanks for another great review - I love the setup you have with the A73 Weebill and 24mm Samyang. Question, is there another Samyang lens that is 35mm or 50mm that is roughly the same weight and size so you wouldn't need to drastically rebalance on the Weebil if you swapped to it.
You're welcome, yes, you can switch between Samyang 24mm F2.8 and 35mm F2.8 without rebalancing the gimbal.
Thank you for This Comparison Review 😊📸
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thank You and the Perfect upload for National Camera Day here in the US!👍🏻📷✌🏻
You're welcome, I didn't know there was such National day in the US.
I'm a S1 owner but I really like both cameras
Excellent review!
Thank you!
Thank you. Fantastic video.
Thank you!
It's a great time to be an A73 owner, thanks for this awesome and honest comparison! The only things I want to change in A7 are display, user interface, and better IBIS. A7 4 can take its sweet time, my A73 is not going anywhere!
You're welcome, it is indeed very good package, although I would definitely like some stuff from S1 in A7 IV.
@@TheHybridShooter Me too, but as you mentioned in the video there is not a lot to complain about in A73, and that's saying a lot after 3 big other FF mirrorless tried their supposedly best. But you're right, it still can improve.
Also Sony would have a lot more lenses that could be found on the used market. But S1 looks so much better for me as I have bigger hands and don't mind the weight
Sir, I need help.I am wedding photographer in India I am looking for a new camera.
It has two cameras in front of me
Lumix S1 and SONY 7MIII
Which of these is the best camera for the weddingphotography?
Please help me.
Canon EOS R
My close friend he recommend me a Canon. He is a professional wedding photographer and video grapher
Excellent video as usual :)
Thank you!
Traveling and hiking with Sony Mirrorless cameras got me used to small and light equipments. I could never go back to elephant tools like the new Panasonic mirrorless.
Very useful information and well presented.
Thank you!
I was wondering, does the bokeh or shallow depth of field differ (greater or less) from the S1 camera 24-70mm (at 50mm) f/2.8 vs G9 camera with 25mm f/1.4 or is it exactly equivalent (same focal length and fstop production)? I am new to this camera or full frames.
It is the same.
Have I commented about this before? I feel torn between the S1 and A7 III. I have numerous Panasonic cameras like the GH4 and G9, I love the menu system and ergonomics, and the video quality and functions are amazing. But the A7 III is lighter, smaller, has two SDXC card slots as opposed to one expensive XQD (which might as well be pointless) plus one SDXC, and most importantly, has much better tracking autofocus for still images. There are more and more opportunities for me to shoot sports action, and the A7 III seems more suited than the S1. I find I'm looking for an all in one hybrid with increasing importance for sports action, compared with the more slow, studied work I've done until the last six months. But the video quality of the S1 and other Panasonics is still very important to me. Ugh.
If you want to shoot sports / action Sony A7 III is much better choice than S1. Video quality is also about the same, S1 just gives your more options for color grading.
@@TheHybridShooter Thank you, this answers my question perfectly.
Thank you for the comparison. 👍
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thank you so much for this video.
For weeks I have been searching on the web for such an in-depth comparison that will help me to decide which one I should buy. I was sure that I am going to buy an A73, but when I read about the S1 Vlog update, I started to have 2nd thoughts.
This back to back honest review, made me realize that the weight and the focus system won't fit my needs. So thanks! :)
Do you make Shortfilms or music videos? Would like to see more of your work.
No, I am not a filmmaker, I only make product reviews.
If you see this comment which one would you reccomend for the budget of $2000 coming from a gx85, I don't mind weight at all and I'm going to use it for street photography and video I'm honestly lost
I'm a Panasonic micro 43 user, but if I had to switch to FF, I'd go with the Sony. The S1 is huge and the AF is not good enough compared to the Sony IMO.
Yeah, a lot of people feel that way. Size and weight seems to be a big issues with Lumix S line.
You said that S1 has a better 4K quality in Super35 (APS-C) , i cannot find any videos or evidence of this, can you do a video test or show me how you got to this conclusion?
4K 60p shots in this video are in Super 35 mode. There are some samples of Super 35 mode on A7 III in this video - ua-cam.com/video/pzWmhH5gXvM/v-deo.html
Top man, may be more comparison with canon's offering when stating best in class stuff. Best wishes Si.
Thank you, that includes Canon as well, I honestly don't think that they are best at anything at the moment.
Did a full day event outside with the S1 and the amazing 70-200 lens but man the next day my wrists were a mess. It is great in the studio but for events it's heavy. I totally agree that the lack of budget light weight lenses is a big problem. Lenses like the sony 85mm 1.8 and 55mm 1.8 and even the tamron 28-75 2.8 zoom are amazing light weight lenses. I also have to say that I missed focus about on 15% of the shots that day in the street.
I have to agree with that, it is indeed very heavy with that 70-200.
@@TheHybridShooter That will be the only reason I may let go of the camera. I'm waiting to see how heavy the next sony is. I fear they may add weight and size to keep the heat down with 4k video. It's all about physics I suppose. i love that 70-200 lens but my wrists still feel like hamburger.
Sony said that portability and compact size is a priority for them and they don't intend to make bulky cameras, so I am not afraid of that.
The Hybrid Shooter that is probably why the a7siii is delayed so long. At the beginning of the year my friend who works at one of the biggest retailers said the Sony rep said they were still having overheating issues.
@@bobhanuman65 No, A7S III is delayed because A7 III sells more than all competing cameras combined, so they don't need to release it at the moment.
Very very nice comparison. Thanks! From #Brazil ;)
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Its great video.
I just wish that Sony offers some sort of an update to video codecs on the A7III. Great video by the way.
Question, I am looking to get new camera. Should I get the A7iii or wait for the A7SIII or the A7000? Considering that these cameras are most likely to offer 10 bit video.
Thank you, unfortunately I have no inside information, so I can't help you with that.
If you currently have a low budget, get an A6400 and some excellent cheap Sigma primes for low-profile hybrid shooting. It'll save you money for now but also serve as a great backup body when A7siii is released.
Lack of IBIS is a significantly downside on A6400 though.
Hello Shooter. Thanks for the review. I now use a G9. Do you think the S1 outperforms the G9 in terms of autofocus regarding shooting video?
You're welcome, no, it doesn't, G9 has better AF in both still and video at the moment.
@@TheHybridShooter That's an interesting observation. You would have thought the newer camera would demonstrate better AF capabilities.
@@peterlemke3468 I wouldn't, DFD needs a lot of processing power and there is much more information to deal with from full frame sensor, so I am not surprised that the G9 has better AF.
Rolling shutter comparison? when moving and shooting both moving actors and dance this matter.?
Amount of rolling shutter is very similar, there is some, but it won't ruin your footage.
Hallo can i ask you for indoor Action sSport like Judo you will take the S1 or A7II ? thanks for help .Sandro
IF you mean S1 or A7 III, I would take A7 III because of the phase detection AF.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks . Sandro
Good work that man.
Thank you!
how about A7III and S1H, which will you choose for those do photo and videogrphy?
S1H is more capable video camera overall if you don’t mind size and price.
@@TheHybridShooter how about photo?
They perform the same for photos.
Bratislava, Dakujem za obrazky.
Show more pics ,videos from Bratislava.
Great video
Thank you!
I thought Sony's viewfinder is much better since you see what sensor captures. I do not think resolution is even important, not like you will watch photos on that small screen. But some other things Panasonic wins.
No, it doesn’t work that way, viewfinder resolution is very important.
Is the S1 going to replace your A7III?
No, it is not.
YESSSSSS!
The Hybrid Shooter Why
In your opinion which produces sharper 4K video?
Detail in 4K video is about the same on both.
@@TheHybridShooter okay great thanks
The size of that camera is just silly.
This comment is funny because it applies to both the cameras:
If, like myself, one has ART lenses to adapt or plans upon using bright lenses then the A7iii's form will impede the operation. Yet, if one is seeking a single all round machine for lightwork and less frequent use of bright or exotic lenses then the S1 may seem unecessarily large.
I have the S1, but lenses?
I'm not sure what are you asking.
@@TheHybridShooter there not many lenses like sony, nikon etc.
Panasonic is the best camera s1 iN this time
Contrast autofocus??? Ok, enough 👎👎👎
It's actually more complex than that since DFD is a Panasonic proprietary technology and it's not JUST contrast detection. DFD is great for stills, but not that great for video, which is not what this camera is designed for. And unless you are in a very narrow niche of super fast action photography, you won't notice the minuscule difference between DFD and PD. And if you were in that niche, you wouldn't be looking at this camera in the first place :)
Hello my friend 🤝
Panasonic is quite big! Sony have done some saucery!
The camera is massive. They should make a camera similiar to the Leica M9 size to beat Sony. I love my Sony A7R2. I have the A7R sold it bought the M9 for fun and the A7R2 for work. Wanted to get the S1R but the size is almost like a Lecia S2 (which I have to compare
I don't think so, M9 size would be too limiting for proper hybrid camera. They already made smaller camera, but with some compromises ua-cam.com/video/GudzImLY8eI/v-deo.html
What's the best camera for shooting cinematic videos under $2.5k. I'm deciding between these two cameras but I wonder if there's anything better for me
Depends on your preferences. Panasonic GH5S and Fuji X-T3 are worth considering as well, there are reviews of both on this channel.
Just get a Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K for around $1k and spend the rest of your budget on a good rig,, power, audio and lens. For $2.5k you'll have a solid cinema rig ;)
@@weplaywax If he is deciding between the A7 III and S1, BMPCC 4K is probably not suitable for him, that is very niche camera suitable only for certain styles of shooting and advanced productions.
why are you showing s1r when the vieo is about s1 vs a7iii?
Because it is the same body and I haven't had time to re-shoot the same shots with S1.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks
I'm trying to decide between the two and this is very helpful. However, perhaps you aren't aware but the A7III does appear to have a defect with the audio-in port breaking. Lot of youtubers and people on FB groups reporting this, beyond just coincidence or user error.
That is not specific to A7 III, basically all Canon cameras have huge problems with that, other brands as well. 3.5mm just isn't professional grade connector. That is why XLR input is one of the main things separating professional production cameras and mirrorless cameras.
@@TheHybridShooter To say that a port should be expected to commonly break because it's a mirror-less camera can't be true. As I'm sure you have, I've watched hundreds of camera review videos over many years and have never heard that as a common problem. Now, all of the sudden dozens of people are posting about it for a specific camera. Hard to just ignore that.
Do you have any links? I haven't noticed such complaints, definitely not dozens of them. A7 III is by far the best selling camera in the category, so naturally you will see the most complaints even if the rate is the same as with other cameras.
3 hours on 1 battery in sony? how??
TOP!
Ďakuejm!
Blava,odkial si ?
Z Bratislavy.
I've tried the high res mode on the S1R (higher resolution model). And my computer is way too slow for opening 330mb raw files
Yeah, you need to have quite powerful computer even for non-high-res S1R images.
I buy a7 3 and it awesome, love it. But need learn how correct use and grade HLG
No, you don't, just use PP8 with Cine4 gamma.
Great video but you didn't mention the biggest disadvantage of S1. There is no continuous af in slow motion ☹️
Whole his peed video is a disadvantage of the S1, but there is 4K 60p and the video was already too long, so it didn't make the cut.
@@TheHybridShooter Okay. I love Panasonic and wanted to buy the S1 but will wait for sony a7s iii
Ahoj a co tak po slovensky? Viem z toho leda tak hovno😁 Ktory je lepši???
Z tohto videa bohužiaľ slovenská verzia nie je. Ak by bol jeden lepší, nerobil by som 18-minútové porovnanie :)
I love the build of the S1 but the performance on the a7 iii I found was better
I prefer A7mk3
rejecting Panasonic for making a bulky camera .
Why? This is designed as a professional mirrorless camera. I never heard anyone rejecting the 5d for being bulky or heavy. Maybe you should look into the Lumix range or mirrorlesses like the G and GX series? Or if you really want something small with Full Frame, just go for the RX1.
looks like it's in Hungary
It is not.
@@TheHybridShooter sorry about that, can you tell me where are all these photo taken then~
@@user-ln5vt4jj9h Multiple countries - Slovakia, Greece, Austria, Spain.
If I have a son, his name would be Samyang. His friends would call him Samjibaby.
Why not compare to the S1h, the hybrid Panasonic, that makes much more sense.
It wasn’t available back than, and it wouldn’t really make much sense due to the price and size difference.
gh5s isnt a crop sensor camera. its a m4/3s camera
Everything smaller than full frame is crop according to the common terminology.
yo the right picture is darker because of the larger f stop 2:05
bruh
You can see that the settings are identical in top left corner of each picture. You are obviously wrong bruh.
AGAIN: Why don't you mention the superior 10Bit 4:2:0 HLG-Video Mode and 10Bit 4:2.2 V-Log which is coming up in July via Firmware Update for the S1? Sony A7 III is only capable of recording 8Bit. It's a big difference for filmmakers!
HLG - I have explained that. Regarding the FW upgrade: 9:36
W. W. He did mention it.
@@TheHybridShooter You only mentioned V-Log 10bit for a second, but not the already available 10bit HLG video mode.
Yes, I already told you why.
W. W. The vast majority of people can’t tell the difference between 10bit and 8bit and most don’t need it. The time it’s useful is if one is going to do heavy grading. For general use 8bit is fine for many people. There are Plenty of tests comparing 8bit to 10mbit on UA-cam and in my own testing it’s great to see 10 bit but not a necessity all the time.
S1
The lumix s1 saves you from buying a gimbal. 😂
No, gimbal can't be replaced by IBIS.
The used s1 is cheaper than the Sony a7iii